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#debian IRC Logs for 2017-05-30

---Logopened Tue May 30 00:00:12 2017
00:03-!-inne [~inne@77.87.49.251] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
00:04-!-dboehmer_ [~quassel@p5DD9DB66.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #debian
00:04-!-dboehmer_ is "Daniel B\xF6hmer,,," on #debian
00:07-!-indecisive [~oftc-webi@2601:646:3:b340:a8f8:2eaf:380:ec30] has joined #debian
00:07-!-indecisive is "OFTC WebIRC Client" on #debian
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00:09-!-zeromon [~zeromon@ip98-171-185-8.sb.sd.cox.net] has joined #debian
00:09-!-zeromon is "zeromon" on #debian-next #debian-kde #debian
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00:17-!-inne is "purple" on #debian
00:19-!-viccuad is "Víctor Cuadrado Juan" on #kernelnewbies
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00:25-!-Lordz is "Adium User" on #debian
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00:47-!-vlad1777d is "realname" on #debian-hurd #debian-cinnamon #debian-next #debian
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00:49-!-jm_ is "." on #debian #debian-ops
00:52-!-zeromon [~zeromon@ip98-171-185-8.sb.sd.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
00:52-!-zeromon_ [~zeromon@ip98-171-185-8.sb.sd.cox.net] has joined #debian
00:52-!-zeromon_ is "zeromon" on #debian-next #debian-kde #debian
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00:58-!-ml| is "ml|" on #debian
00:58-!-ml| is now known as Guest1193
00:59-!-Guest1193 is now known as ml|_
00:59-!-ml|_ is now known as Guest1194
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01:00-!-platvoeten is "Platvoeten" on #debian
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01:01-!-inne is "purple" on #debian
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01:12-!-Q-Master^Work is "Vladimir Berezenko" on #debian-next #debian #debianppc
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01:12-!-shunzero is "shunzero" on #debian-es #debian
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01:17-!-makomatic is "realname" on #debian
01:18<bounce>glad I don't log, so they don't fill my drive with spam :D
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01:30-!-d-fence is "christophe,,," on #debian-mentors #debian-live #debian-gnome #debianfr @#digital-forensic #debian-forensics #debian #debian-qa #debian-next
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01:35-!-zeromon [~zeromon@ip98-171-185-8.sb.sd.cox.net] has joined #debian
01:35-!-zeromon is "zeromon" on #debian-next #debian-kde #debian
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01:44-!-inne is "purple" on #debian
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01:50-!-KindOne is "..." on #utdlug #tor-offtopic #suckless #qemu #php #ovirt #osm #oftc #moocows @#mirc #linuxfs #linode #libevent #https-everywhere #globaleaks #gentoo #gcc #g7 #freenode #debian-next #debian #debconf #ceph #bcache #awesome #attic
01:55-!-alanz [~smuxi@165.255.186.251] has joined #debian
01:55-!-alanz is "Your Name" on #debian #smuxi
02:00-!-Guest1194 is now known as ml|
02:00-!-ml| is now known as Guest1195
02:01-!-Guest1195 is now known as ml|_
02:01-!-olinuxx [~capturixe@ANancy-653-1-41-45.w86-197.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
02:01-!-ml|_ is now known as Guest1196
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02:04-!-Valvalion is "Valvalion" on #debian
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02:05-!-zeromon is "zeromon" on #debian-next #debian-kde #debian
02:05-!-bzyku [~bzyk@host-89-228-9-198.dynamic.mm.pl] has joined #debian
02:05-!-bzyku is "realname" on #debian #debian-next
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02:16-!-katnip is "katnip" on #debian #tor-project #privacytech #tor #tor-offtopic
02:19-!-ansel [~ansel@2003:5b:203b:100:6af7:28ff:fe06:801] has joined #debian
02:19-!-ansel is "Andreas Seltenreich" on #debian
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02:32-!-debalance is "Philipp Huebner" on #debian #debian-kde #debian-qa #debian-devel-changes
02:32-!-Drzacek [~Drzacek@dslb-084-062-081-207.084.062.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined #debian
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02:32-!-Fin is "New Now Know How" on #debian
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02:44-!-srtu is "Armin M\xFCller" on #debian
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03:02-!-liverwurst is "Leberwurst" on #debian-kde #debian
03:02-!-Guest1196 is now known as ml|
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03:03-!-Guest1197 is now known as ml|_
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03:03-!-isaagar is "realname" on #debian-browserify #debian-next #debian-arm #debian-mobile #debian #debian-cd #hamara #debian-live #debian-boot #debian-in
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03:13-!-brians_ is "brian" on #linode #observium
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03:34-!-nowhere_man is "Pierre Thierry" on @#concatenative #emacs #git @#erights #lisp #debian-kde #debian
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03:48-!-dogsleg is "Lev Lamberov" on #debconf #debian-i18n #debian-doc #debian-www #debian-ru #debian-mentors #debian
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04:02-!-zamuro is "Romanes eunt domus" on #debian #debian-es @#debian-ve
04:04-!-Guest1199 is now known as ml|
04:04-!-ml| is now known as Guest1202
04:05-!-Guest1202 is now known as ml|_
04:05-!-czesmir [~stefan@diu115.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #debian
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04:18-!-grrrrrr is "http://barbanegra.info/" on #debian
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04:39-!-olinuxx is "Olivier Humbert" on #oftc #linux-rt #debian-next #debian-multimedia #debian-mirrors #debian-mentors #debian-live #debian-l10n-fr #debian-france #debian-fr #debian-edu #debian
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04:50-!-inne is "purple" on #debian
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06:35<prem>hi all
06:35<prem>can i have a image based updates for debian ., similar to android ?
06:36<prem>is it possible using existing apt or is there any roadmap for that
06:38<blast007>what would be the purpose of that?
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06:40<blast007>or I guess the reason for that
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06:58<pwgen>grr forget it ...
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08:26<efkan>i have just installed sparkylinux and i can't use steam here
08:27<petn-randall>!sparkylinux
08:27<dpkg>SparkyLinux is a Linux distribution based on <testing>. It is not supported in #debian or #debian-next. http://sparkylinux.org/ See also <based on debian>.
08:27<efkan>even cannot see my hard drives
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08:27<petn-randall>efkan: You'll have to find their support channel. This one is for Debian only.
08:27<efkan>sorry thanks
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08:29<efkan>great there is no sparkylinux room ^^
08:30<petn-randall>efkan: Sorry to hear. You can always reinstall to Debian proper and get support in here.
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08:33<efkan>yes i am sure that but it gets pain in the ass tbh
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08:35<towo^work>there is a sparkylinux irc
08:35<towo^work>but it is on freenode, not oftc
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08:41<n>hi, it should be possible to install debian 2x on 1xhdd right? i have a ssd which i would like to use for my main pc as well as my notebook
08:41<n>maybe a little ugly with the bootloader and finding the right installation
08:41<n>for the right system , pc or notebook
08:41<n>are there useful work arounds or is something wrong with my idea
08:42<peter1138>you intend to regularly swap drives around?
08:43<n>y
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08:45<petn-randall>n: And why do you want to install it twice?
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08:59<n>my guess is that an OS for another hardware wouldnt run or would run instable
09:00<n>1xOS for 2xpcs ^
09:03<blast007>that's generally much less of an issue for Linux than, say, Windows.
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09:05<sney>yeah when I got my new laptop I just took the ssd from my old laptop and plugged it in
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09:06<petn-randall>n: As long as they're both 64bit (If they're current machines, that's a given), and both boot with either UEFI or legacy BIOS, everything else isn't a problem.
09:06<blast007>could there be problems if one system needed the Debian packaged proprietary nVidia drivers?
09:08<n>i dont plan to install the proprietary drivers, but my main sys has a nvidia card
09:08<petn-randall>n: If you don't need special config you should be fine.
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09:09<n>ok, thanks , i try it out
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09:30<zxyz>sup mintz
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09:30<mintz>henlo zxyz
09:30<zxyz>welcome back to irc XD!
09:30<mintz>danke XD!
09:30<zxyz>same
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09:31<zxyz>better than discord, amirite?
09:31<mintz>maybe
09:31<zxyz>the correct answer is 'yes' XD!
09:31<itd>dpkg: chag
09:31<dpkg>bugger all, i dunno, itd
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09:31<itd>dpkg: chat
09:31<dpkg>This is not a chat channel, this is a Debian user support channel. Unless you have a Debian support question, please chat elsewhere, like #moocows on irc.oftc.net or ##chat on irc.freenode.net.
09:32<zxyz>oh ok
09:32<mintz>oh ok
09:32<zxyz>mintz let's take it to personal messages
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10:09<lee>hello
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10:10<zxyz>hello lee
10:10<lee>hi zxyz
10:10<zxyz>yes hello good day
10:11<lee>good day! where r u from ?
10:11<zxyz>lithuania
10:11<zxyz>you?
10:11<lee>china
10:11<zxyz>oh nice
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10:11<lee>what's the time zone
10:12<zxyz>utc+2
10:12<n>germany 16:12
10:12<lee>it's utc +8 here:)
10:12<lee>22:12
10:13<lee>i'm gonna sleep
10:13<zxyz>i go to sleep mostly on 2 or 3am lmao
10:13<lee>bye , it's nice to talk with u
10:13<zxyz>bye
10:13<lee>bye
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10:15<COYOTE>hey all. I have a quick question.
10:15<zxyz>yes
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10:15<COYOTE>Is PowerPC support still being actively developed?
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10:16<COYOTE>Im trying to figure out whats the best flavor of linux to run longterm on a PowerMac G4
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10:16<COYOTE>everyone seems to be dropping future support
10:16<bremner>https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2016/10/msg00008.html
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10:17<COYOTE>so support for PowerMac G3 and G4 cpus is being dropped?
10:17<bremner>COYOTE: well, it's not a release architecture. So the support level is certainly decreased
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10:18<COYOTE>ugh. that sucks
10:18<bremner>but realistically, that just reflects a lack of people doing porting work.
10:18<COYOTE>I wish I had the skill level to help out
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10:18<itd>dpkg: PowerPC
10:18<dpkg>PowerPC is a <RISC> architecture (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PowerPC). See "Debian for PowerPC" at http://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc . Debian CDs are not (and cannot be made) bootable on Old World PowerMacs. Information on proper partitioning is at http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/doc/mac-fdisk-basics.txt . See also <macsound>, <yaboot>, <quik>, <bootx>, <ppc64>. #debianppc on irc.oftc.net and irc.freenode.net.
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10:19<itd>COYOTE: Go and ask in #debianppc / on their mailing list, maybe you have the skills they need. ;)
10:19<COYOTE>ahhh. interesting thought.
10:19<COYOTE>thank you!
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10:23<vassilisw>will the real mplayer be back in stretch? (not the dead mplayer2)
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10:27<bremner>dunno. there's mpv
10:27<bremner>afaik that's what will be in stretch
10:28<bremner>mplayer2 is a dummy package in stretch
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10:34<vassilisw>a dummy pkg that points to? mplayer? mpv?
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10:35<zeta>mpv
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10:39<ircuser-1>vassilisw, mplayer dead? still actively updated on Slackware
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10:40<vassilisw>mplayer2 is dead, not mplayer :)
10:40<vassilisw>it was a fork of the real mplayer.
10:41<ksn00b>I can't anymore clone from github using git: "gnutls_handshake() failed: Public key signature verification has failed."
10:42<ksn00b>"git clone https://github.com/madler/zlib.git" fails
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11:18<Guest1248>Anyone understand anything about github + irc, like, could you just talk, because I don't know what to even search for.
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11:19<bremner>Guest1248: there is a channel #github on irc.freenode.net
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11:19<Guest1248>Is this the same as freenode?
11:20<bremner>this is oftc, which is different than freenode
11:20<Guest1248>how do i get this and freenode like in one big ICQ
11:20<Guest1248>you know like before everything was seperated
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11:23<Guest1248>how do you people stay connected over so many, seperations?
11:23<petn-randall>Guest1248: I don't know what you're asking for.
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11:26<joepublic>netsplits, guest1248?
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11:30<Guest1248>hmm...
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11:31<Guest1248>well ... before in 1990 (8), i go to one server, everyone is vibrant. Now everyone is spead over multiple servers and apps.
11:31<Guest1248>even if they dont want to be together
11:31<Guest1248>how do i use it like in the 1990 where everyone is in one server
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11:32<Guest1248>on debian
11:32<petn-randall>Guest1248: That wasn't even in the 90s the case. You maybe just didn't know about them.
11:33<petn-randall>Guest1248: All modern IRC clients can be connected to several networks at the same time, just pick one you like.
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11:33<Guest1248>then what about using irc like gitter, can i connect to everyones github and chat with them? because im looking for a community to keep me active.
11:34<mnuhmnuh>Guest1248: all questions i wonder about, and am told i'm overthinking it. had more trouble understanding irc than anything else.
11:35<TobiX>Well, in tje 90ies we had the great IM wars: ICQ, AIM, MSN, etc. Now everybody is using hip web apps for that...
11:35<Guest1248>ok but the war is boring every app is empty
11:35<Guest1248>everyone died
11:35<petn-randall>And FOSS clients that were leeching on those networks ;)
11:36<TobiX>Guest1248: Correct, everybody lost. Today we have even more fragmentation.
11:36<TobiX>But we probably should move this discussion to #debian-offtopic
11:36<ksn00b__>I can't anymore clone from github using git: "gnutls_handshake() failed: Public key signature verification has failed.", "git clone https://github.com/madler/zlib.git" fails
11:37<TobiX>ksn00b__: Is the clock of your system correct?
11:37<Guest1248>ok
11:37<ksn00b__>Tobix: Why does this matter?
11:38<joepublic>I remember when irc was a humming social hub, in the mid-90s perhaps. It isn't anymore. Now it's lurk, ask, and wait. If you want to learn about debian right this minute, there's plenty already written in less interactive forums.
11:38<Guest1248>thanks!
11:39<TobiX>ksn00b__: Because certificates have validity periods in them. If your clock is off by days, months or years it might not consider GitHub's certificate as valid
11:39<petn-randall>ksn00b__: Because all TLS certificates in the verification chain have timestamps when they're valid.
11:39<mnuhmnuh>joepublic: see you in #debian-offtopic.
11:39<joepublic>acknowledged.
11:39<Guest1248>see me there too
11:39<Guest1248>i need conversation help
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11:45<ksn00b__>TobiX, petn-randall: ok. My clock is not correct AFAIK: hwclock gives 05:48:41.
11:46<petn-randall>ksn00b__: What is the output of the 'date' command?
11:46<ksn00b__>petn-randall: Tue May 30 17:50:35 CDT 2017.
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11:49<petn-randall>ksn00b__: Doesn't look to far off to me, so that shouldn't be the problem.
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11:54<ksn00b__>petn-randall: So, what's causing the problem? I'm stuck .. does "git clone https://github.com/madler/zlib.git" work for you?
11:54<petn-randall>ksn00b__: Yes, git works for me.
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11:55<ksn00b__>petn-randall: ok .. can I provide you with further informations?
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11:55<petn-randall>ksn00b__: Sure, share it with the channel.
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12:01<ksn00b__>git version 2.11.0. libcurl3-gnutls 7.52.1-5
12:02<ksn00b__>libgnutls30 3.5.8-5
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12:32<ksn00b__>What's causing the gnutls hanshake issue? I need some help/
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12:57<Walex>ksn00b__: use 'gnutls-cli' to check
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13:02<Walex>ksn00b__: specifically try: echo HEAD | gnutls-cli github.com
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13:05<Walex>ksn00b__: http://www.codeghar.com/blog/git-pull-ssl-certificate-problem.html
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13:33<ullbeking>I want to install Debian Stable onto a large and fast USB stick and run the OS from there (i.e., not a live distribution, but a persistent one)
13:33<ksn00b__>Walex: gnutls-cli gives "Cannot resolve https://github.com/madler/zlib.git:443: Name or service not known"
13:33<ullbeking>I also want full disk encryption
13:33<ullbeking>Where would I go for advice on this?
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13:33<ullbeking>And by FDE, I include /boot, etc.
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13:38<ksn00b__>Walex: https://pastebin.com/J8vfmhR5
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13:41<mnuhmnuh>ullbeking: tails, distrowatch for details, burrow from there
13:41<mnuhmnuh>i've a box only usable via booting tails from usb key
13:41<ullbeking>mnuhmnuh: but I already know I want plain Debian; surely Grub can handle an encrypted /boot?
13:41<Asara>ullbeking: I think the process would be the same as usual, just install to the USB, and then set up the mount options to be more usb friendly
13:42<mnuhmnuh>ed snowden reccomends tail
13:42<mnuhmnuh>ed snowden reccomends tails
13:42<ullbeking>Asara: do you have recommendations for mount options?
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13:42<ullbeking>mnuhmnuh: My use case is different. It's a file server that's going to sit in my home.
13:43<ullbeking>I want FDE in case of break in, etc.
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13:43<Asara>ullbeking: FDE doesn't help if the server is running
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13:44<ullbeking>Asara: I know that
13:44<ullbeking>I'm going to implement intrusion detection
13:44<ullbeking>That will unmount the drives
13:44<ullbeking>Can't make it pefect, but hopefully good enough
13:45<Asara>fair
13:45<blast007>Asara: but he also has it enclosed in cement, with an accelerometer to detect movement and impact, which triggers the C4 to blow
13:45<Asara>in terms of mount options, I am unsure personally sorry. noatime maybe
13:46<ullbeking>So when I run the installer and install to a USB stick, will everything on it be encrypted, or does /boot get left unencrypted, etc?
13:46<Asara>the problem with running / from a USB is the writes
13:46<ullbeking>Asara: np, I'll look it up somewhere else
13:46<ullbeking>Yeah
13:46<Asara>ullbeking: /boot should get encrypted, decryption handled via GRUB
13:46<ullbeking>I know it's not idea
13:46<ullbeking>ideal
13:47<ullbeking>Problem is, my mSATA connector, which I thought I could install an SSD into, doesn't actually connect to any sort of SATA controller
13:47<Asara>blast007: eh I've set up some janky solutions for precieved security, can't knock the hustle
13:47<blast007>:)
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13:47<ullbeking>So it's useless for running an actual disk
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13:47<ullbeking>I need an alternative solution
13:47<Asara>mSATA =/= SATA? does it connect to a pci port?
13:48<ullbeking>mSATA is a connector, SATA is the protocol
13:48<ullbeking>mPCIe connector is physically same as mSATA
13:48<Asara>welp
13:48<ullbeking>But electrically they are different
13:48*Asara knows nothing about hardware
13:48<Asara>:)
13:48<Asara>regardless, hope you get your file server up and running
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13:49<ullbeking>So unless your PCIe bus has something that can handle this, your mPCIe slot is useless
13:49<ullbeking>All it's good for is as a "passthrough" to the USB bus, somehow
13:49<blast007>ullbeking: have you tried the install yet to see if it works?
13:49<ullbeking>Asara: thanks
13:49<ullbeking>blast007: No
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13:51<blast007>the arch wiki may have some info relevent to Debian as well: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Dm-crypt/Encrypting_an_entire_system
13:52<ullbeking>thanks blast007
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13:57<vezult>so, I'm experimenting with a -grsec kernel...
13:58<vezult>and find that for some reason I cannot make an mprotect exception for any graphical browser that I have installed
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13:58<vezult>I get told "file /usr/bin/chromium is not a valid ELF executable"
13:59<vezult>same for firefox, epiphany-browser (which I guess is basically chromium)
13:59<vezult>w3m works!
13:59<vezult>and that's great, FWIW, but I really need a graphical browser to get anything done
14:00<vezult>anyone have pointers for me?
14:00<blast007>!grsec
14:00<dpkg>Patch set to enhance Linux kernel security: ACL system/auditing/measures against common system exploits. In Debian as linux-patch-grsecurity2, see /usr/share/doc/linux-patch-grsecurity2/README.Debian to apply. Packaged as kernel for sid since 2016, search https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=linux-image%20grsec http://www.grsecurity.net #grsecurity on <oftc>, ##grsecurity on <freenode>
14:00<blast007>couple channels there you could try on if you don't get anything here
14:02<vezult>blast007: #grsecurity is invite only, apprently
14:02<vezult>I already tried that one :-/
14:02<blast007>well, then the freenode one may be an option :)
14:02<vezult>blast007: yeah, I didn't see that one
14:02<vezult>blast007: thanks
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14:14<vezult>doh
14:14<vezult>OK, so I missed the obivious..
14:14<vezult>file tells me: /usr/bin/chromium: POSIX shell script, ASCII text executable
14:15<vezult>problem solved
14:15<vezult>the actual binary is in /usr/lib/chromium/chromium
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14:18<vezult>to be clear, the issue with the other browsers is the same.
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14:19<vezult>firefox basically just wraps firefox-esr
14:19<vezult>is a shell script, which wraps firefox.real or firefox-esr
14:20<vezult>and epiphany-browser wraps epiphany
14:21<vezult>anyway hopefully that helps other peeps as clueless as myself
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14:46<alien3>I have installed Sretch on Lenovo B50. No problem. Run ok.
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14:57<dscutt>Somewhat new to HexChat. Was wondering if anyone could point me in the right direction to talk about programming. Non language-specific, but Javascript I suppose, if that matters.
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15:01<bremner>dscutt: there seem to be more related channels on freenode (irc.freenode.net)
15:01<dscutt>Thanks.
15:01<bremner>dscutt: /query alis, help , if you go there
15:02<dscutt>Alright. Will do. Appreciate the help.
15:02<zeta>dscutt: try out https://search.mibbit.com/ too
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15:02<vezult>so, it looks like gradm2 is trying to open /dev/grsec2 (which doesn't exist) rather than /dev/grsec
15:02<vezult>that seems like a bug...
15:03<vezult>perhaps it's a config thing. Anyone know?
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15:15<vezult>arrrgh. OK, so the current available binary kernel image (-grsec) is incompatible with gradm2. There is no package for gradm.
15:16<vezult>so it appears that if I want to use both...I need to compile my own kernel package.
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16:00<Guest1277>https://airdcpp-web.github.io/
16:00<Guest1277>don\t work help
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16:08<Guest1277>may be other pro find
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16:09<Guest1277>i be live for order & cult u re
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16:11<Guest1277>crazy soft don\t work find bibliotek music or video what is book
16:11<Guest1277>i dont speak
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16:13<blast007>Guest1277: which version of Debian are you using?
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16:16<Guest1277>2006 version
16:17<Guest1277>all other version now work with hard fsb kgb ss - feel
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16:17<Guest1277>fsb kgb ss fbi - kriminal gye gay
16:18<blast007>Guest1277: is it Knoppix?
16:19<Guest1277>i feel that kids - working with other soft - past 10 years not find any normal soft
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16:20<blast007>Guest1277: are you using Knoppix?
16:20<Guest1277>yes
16:20<blast007>!knoppix
16:20<dpkg>Knoppix is _not_ Debian. Seek Knoppix help in freenode's #knoppix. Knoppix is a live CD distribution which is <based on Debian>, useful as a rescue CD, to test hardware, and for situations where you have access to a computer but it isn't Debian. http://www.knoppix.org/ unofficial: http://Debian-knoppix.alioth.Debian.org/ <Debian-live> is the Debian equivalent for publishing live systems.
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16:21<blast007>try #knoppix on irc.freenode.net
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16:21<Guest1277>i like this system but all other think kriminal commerc work only
16:22<Guest1277>onl money make feel good with system
16:22<Guest1277>but knoppix wokk stability
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16:23<Guest1277>if i find any other stability i use - i have only windows 2006 and knoppix 2006 all other 10 100 1000 system make me feel hardzombe
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16:27<Guest1277>but in windows i have big memory wih pain worms viruses
16:28<blast007>Guest1277: this is still the wrong channel for Knoppix. You want to connect to irc.freenode.net and join #knoppix
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16:32<Guest1277>thank you
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17:26<Pepe__>Hi there, a user got this message today https://paste.debian.net/953842 when upgrading from icedove to thunderbird, because there was already a thunderbird profile
17:26<Pepe__>The thing is that the profile wasn't the same, why not just copy the profile if names don't conflict?
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18:29<Guest1277>secrel level black pool exit on speed thank you i beelive in future
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19:26<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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21:06-!-Celelibi_ is now known as Celelibi
21:06<Celelibi>Debian fixing baboon-too issues?
21:06<@abrotman>please do'nt feed the trolls
21:06<@abrotman>or idiots
21:06<@abrotman>or whatever that is
21:07-!-mode/#debian [-R] by abrotman
21:07<Celelibi>It just doesn't make sense.
21:07-!-mode/#debian [-o abrotman] by abrotman
21:07<abrotman>Celelibi: Right, so just drop it .. move on with your life ..
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21:12<JCaesar>Celelibi: you mean baboontu?
21:12<abrotman>...
21:12*JCaesar has been fed.
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21:32<likcoras>I'm not sure where to look for this information, will golang-1.8 ever make it into jessie (via backports or something) or will jessie users be stuck with 1.7 forever?
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23:09<urajoo>Help! Steam won't run anymore after updates, gives me the following error. Thanks in advanced.
23:09<urajoo>http://paste.debian.net/954508
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23:23<jmcnaught>urajoo: does "apt-cache policy libgl1-mesa-dri:i386" report that the package is installed? What about "dpkg -S nouveau_dri.so" ?
23:25<urajoo>libgl1-mesa-dri:i386:
23:25<urajoo> Installed: 13.0.6-1~bpo8+1
23:25<urajoo> Candidate: 13.0.6-1~bpo8+1
23:25<urajoo>libgl1-mesa-dri:amd64: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/dri/nouveau_dri.so
23:25<urajoo>libgl1-mesa-dri:i386: /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/dri/nouveau_dri.so
23:25<urajoo>urajoo@debian:~$
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23:27<jmcnaught>do you also have nvidia proprietary drivers installed?
23:29<urajoo>I had to purge nvidia trying to update them. I have like GeForce 9400 I believe. It would run before. Then I did an upgrade, the ones from your shelf, the suggested updates, and it won't run now.
23:29<jmcnaught>urajoo: did you at one point install nvidia drivers from their website?
23:30<urajoo>Yes, I did. And my OS changed colors, and I think even gave me the oops something's wrong, so I purged them to get them to work again.
23:31<jmcnaught>urajoo: it sounds like there are still some components from the nvidia website download on your system. It can be quite difficult to clean up after the nvidia installer which sprays files all over your system
23:31<jmcnaught>this is why installing the nvidia drivers from their website is so strongly recommended against, even if it works at first it will break something when you upgrade
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23:32<jmcnaught>there's an nvidia-installer-cleanup package that may help if you don't already have it installed
23:32<urajoo>From the package manager?
23:33<jmcnaught>yes, i think it's normally installed as a dependency of the nvidia-driver packages
23:33<jmcnaught>have you reviewed https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers ?
23:34<urajoo>I have. Just like upgrading my Broadcom drivers NVIDIA is still very confusing for me. I'm barely an intermediate user
23:35<jmcnaught>that's alright, so am i with a lot of stuff
23:36<jmcnaught>on Debian with drivers especially it's best to stick to what is available in the official Debian package repositories, because they are fixed up to integrate properly with the rest of the OS
23:37<urajoo>I can't seem to find the cleanup on the pkg manager. Might it be called something else?
23:38<urajoo>Also, after the update, I have to use modprobe -r b43 and rfkill unblock all just to make any wifi connections visible...
23:38<jmcnaught>urajoo: what about "apt-get install nvidia-installer-cleanup"? Also do you have non-free sources enabled in /etc/apt/sources.list?
23:38<urajoo>I do
23:39<urajoo>http://paste.debian.net/954548
23:40<urajoo>no go on the konsole either
23:41<jmcnaught>what was the error message?
23:42<jmcnaught>you have non-free for security and jessie-updates, but not for jessie (lines 7,8)
23:42<urajoo>the error for steam?
23:42<jmcnaught>no for apt-get
23:43<jmcnaught>urajoo: try updating those lines in sources.list looking at the example on https://wiki.debian.org/SourcesList then work through the steps on https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers and don't hesitate to ask if you run into an issue ☺
23:44<urajoo>Thanks. Oh it just said unable to locate package
23:46<urajoo>I saved it and nothing, do I run an update? Reboot?
23:55<jmcnaught>you need to "apt update" after editing sources.list. apt update will fetch the lists of packages from all your sources, vs apt upgrade which upgrades packages (installed software) to new versions
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