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#debian IRC Logs for 2017-06-01

---Logopened Thu Jun 01 00:00:15 2017
00:01-!-inne [~inne@77.87.48.131] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
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00:01-!-inne1 is "purple" on #debian
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00:03-!-sky_ is "realname" on #debian
00:04-!-dboehmer_ [~quassel@p5DD9E374.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #debian
00:04-!-dboehmer_ is "Daniel B\xF6hmer,,," on #debian
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00:06-!-sky_ is "realname" on #debian
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00:10-!-sky_ is "realname" on #debian
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00:12-!-linuxmodder [~Corey84@ip-64-134-65-241.public.wayport.net] has joined #debian
00:12-!-linuxmodder is "Corey Sheldon" on #linode #cryptoparty #openstack #openbox #oftc #linux #kvm #irssi #ipv6 #https-everywhere #gcc #freenode #fosscar #fossology #ext4 #debian #Corsair #codesurfers #apparmor #smxi
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00:13-!-sky_ is "realname" on #debian
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00:17-!-sky_ is "realname" on #debian
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00:19-!-brians_ is "brian" on #debian #debian-voip #debian-systemd #sepia
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00:23-!-blindsight` [~blindsigh@broken-parts.blindsighttf2.com] has joined #debian
00:23-!-blindsight` is "hi" on #oftc #moocows #linode #debian @#blindsightest @#BlindSight
00:23-!-nowhere_man [~pierre@00012946.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
00:23-!-nowhere_man is "Pierre Thierry" on #concatenative #emacs #git #erights #lisp #debian-kde #debian
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00:24-!-noah is "this is noah" on #debian
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00:24-!-sky_ is "realname" on #debian
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00:25-!-illwieckz is "Thomas DEBESSE" on #debian #debian-bugs #debianfr
00:26-!-Bhootrk_ [~Bhootrk_@li1626-54.members.linode.com] has joined #debian
00:26-!-Bhootrk_ is "realname" on #debian-publicity #debian-perl #debian-offtopic #debian-next #debian-multimedia #debian-live #debian-kde #debian-kbsd #debian-java #debian-in #debian-gnome #debian-fr #debian-dpkg #debian-devel-changes #debian-derivatives #debian-bugs #debian-browserify #debian-bootstrap #debian-boot #debian-arm #debian-apt #debian #debconf-video #cryptoparty #cryptodotis #apparmor #bcache #alioth #ceph-devel #ceph #awesome
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00:27-!-vlad1777d is "realname" on #debian-hurd #debian-cinnamon #debian-next #debian
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00:30-!-NomadJim_ is "Nomad" on #debian #linode
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00:34-!-lakin is "Lakin Wecker" on #debian-science #debian-games #debian-next #debian #cherrypy
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00:42-!-jm_ is "." on #debian #debian-ops
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00:48-!-virgoerns is "mgoral" on #debian
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00:48-!-sky_ is "realname" on #debian
00:48-!-sunderland93 is "Sunderland93" on #debian-kde #debian
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00:54-!-blindsight` is "hi" on #oftc #moocows #linode #debian @#blindsightest @#BlindSight
00:55-!-sky_ [~sky@136.28.193.146] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
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00:56-!-tetrapovicc [~trifyl@AToulouse-652-1-280-30.w109-220.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #debian
00:56-!-tetrapovicc is "trifyl" on #debian-fr #debian
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00:57-!-maximizer [~mr_w0lf@117.223.139.167] has joined #debian
00:57-!-maximizer is "realname" on #debian
00:57<maximizer>hello
00:57<maximizer>can anyone help me with this
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01:01-!-platvoeten is "Platvoeten" on #debian
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01:11-!-linuxmodder_ [~Corey84@ip-64-134-100-154.public.wayport.net] has joined #debian
01:11-!-linuxmodder_ is "Corey Sheldon" on #smxi #apparmor #codesurfers #Corsair #debian #ext4 #fossology #fosscar #freenode #gcc #https-everywhere #ipv6 #irssi #kvm #oftc #openbox #openstack #cryptoparty #linode
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01:47-!-pavlushka is "pavlushka" on #linode #debian #oftc
01:47-!-pavlushka [~pavlushka@00021abb.user.oftc.net] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded]
01:48-!-pavlushka is "pavlushka" on #linode #debian #oftc
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01:49-!-sky_ is "realname" on #debian
01:49-!-pavlushka is "pavlushka" on #oftc #debian #linode
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01:54-!-Drzacek is "realname" on #debian #debian-next
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01:57-!-debalance is "Philipp Huebner" on #debian-kde #debian #debian-devel-changes #debian-qa
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01:59-!-alanz is "Your Name" on #debian #smuxi
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02:00-!-disposable2 is "disposable2" on @#linux-ha #ovirt #ceph #debian
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02:02-!-cfec0b8d is "realname" on #debian-gnome #debian
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02:06-!-Vollstrecker_ is "Werner Mahr" on #debian-kde #debian
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02:10-!-Q-Master^Work is "Vladimir Berezenko" on #debianppc #debian #debian-next
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03:13<qbi>I want to change settings in /lib/systemd/system/dovecot.socket. `systemctl edit` doesn't work in stable. So what file do I have to edit? (etc/systemd/system/dovecot.d/socket.conf?)
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03:13<grawity>either /etc/systemd/system/dovecot.socket, or /etc/systemd/system/dovecot.socket.d/whatever.conf
03:14<grawity>the former is a full override, the latter is incremental
03:15<qbi>grawity: thx
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04:48<Tuor>Hi, I have a Lenovo T520 laptop with Debian Testing installed. I'm preparing to get Debian 9 when it will be released. ATM we use Ubuntu. How can I install the required WLAN driver for my WLAN card? In Ubuntu there is an graphical application for this. Is there something similar on Debian?
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04:49<itd>dpkg: wifi
04:49<dpkg>Support for your wireless LAN device is dependent on the chipset within. Don't know what you have? Ask me about <what's my wireless>. Atheros: <atheros>; Atmel: <atmel>; Broadcom: <broadcom>; Intel: <intel>; Intersil: <prism>; Marvell: <marvell>; Ralink: <ralink>; Realtek: <realtek>; TI: <acx-mac80211>; VIA: <vt665x>; ZyDAS: <zydas>. See also <crda>, <killswitch>, <wpa>. http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi
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04:51<itd>Tuor: Looking at https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Thinkpad/T520/wheezy you need to install firmware-iwlwifi (
04:52<itd>Tuor: To install enable non-free and execute 'apt install firmware-iwlwifi'.)
04:52<Tuor>itd, thx!
04:53<itd>dpkg: tell Tuor -about non-free
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04:53<itd>dpkg: tell Tuor -about non-free sources
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04:54<Tuor>itd, thx. I did add the checkbox in the "software and updates"-Tool.
04:54<itd>Tuor: While dpkg mentions aptitude you can do these things also with apt/apt-get
04:56<Tuor>Installation worked fine. Lets see what happens after reboot.
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04:59<Tuor>Could connect to wifi now. Thx for your help!
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05:00<itd>Tuor: Nice. No problem. :)
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05:03<Tuor>I'm running KDE Neon (it's based on Ubuntu 16.04 right now. It's nice but a little unstable^^ Looking forward to move to some stable KDE >=5.8 with debian. :)
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05:03<Tuor>But not all like KDE so Gnome will be an alternativ to KDE. With automated laptop installation. :)
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05:04*Tuor brb
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05:22<jhonress>hi
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05:22<jhonress>Any one in here
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05:23<itd>jhonress: Hello, yes.
05:23<Ruebezahl>i am here, but i am beginner
05:23<petn-randall>jhonress: I counted 772 nicks
05:24<jhonress>ok
05:24<jhonress>what do you want
05:24<itd>jhonress: We want you to respect the topic.
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05:25<itd>jhonress: If you have a question: ask. Don't message random people (e.g. me).
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08:41<danielsh`>hi
08:41<danielsh`>!ask
08:41<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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09:00<Tuor>Hi, would it be possible to run a script at the beginning of the debian installer and connect it's STDOUT and STDIN to the TTY/keyboard? Why?: I want to ask the user dependent information, at the beginning of the installation and add them to the preseed used by the installer. So if someone beginns a network installation, he is ask for username, password and encryption password at once. After that, he can leave the PC/laptop and come back when the OS is completly
09:00<Tuor>installed.
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09:11<jamesb192>probably. just i think not the way you are describing i think.
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09:15<grove>Hmm, a debian package with some code written in go that doesn't build-depend on go - one of my colleagues doesn't know what he was doing
09:16<jamesb192>i feel that sections 4.6 of the manula might be reasonably close to what you want.
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09:29<jamesb192>or maybe apendix B?
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09:54<Tuor>jamesb192, where your last 2 messages for me to?
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10:00*Tuor will be back later
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10:11<jamesb192>yes.
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10:24<juan1>hello
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10:26<jamesb192>!ask
10:26<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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10:26<juan1>I need to boot my hard drive with linux debian on a laptop hp envy. I get booted but I can not access the graphical interface. Only the shell and commands can access.
10:27<juan1>Some idea to make the graphical interface work
10:28<jamesb192>error messages?
10:28<mtn>juan1: try adding nomodeset to the boot line by editing grub at boot time
10:29<mtn>juan1: if that boots, then fix your video driver
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10:31<juan1>no error messages
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10:33<duclicsic>did you actually install a graphical environment? if so which one?
10:33<juan1>i can accesIt does not give errors and I can access the files and everything. I can access from the shell with the commands. But when I want to enter the graphical interface, the screen goes black
10:35<juan1>Yes, I've been wearing it for a year, I have everything there. Gnome cinanon or something like that
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10:35<duycoding710>hi
10:35<duycoding710>just wanna say this is so great
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10:36<juan1>I think the solution would be: 1) access the internet with commands. 2) Update the video driver. 3) restart
10:37<juan1>But I do not know how to connect to the internet with commands
10:38<lindi-_>juan1: does debian live cd work?
10:38<danielsh`>what do you need?
10:38<mtn>juan1: try adding nomodeset to the boot line by editing grub at boot time
10:38<mtn>juan1: if that boots, then fix your video driver
10:38<danielsh`>w3m is a browser, aptitude is a package manager, nano is an editor
10:38<danielsh`>'su' to become root
10:39<danielsh`>... but mtn 's suggestion needs none of these
10:39<lindi-_>w3m is no browser that you can recommend for anything really, even the description says that :)
10:39<lindi-_>(they call it a pager)
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10:40<jamesb192>links or lynx maybe?
10:40<danielsh`>you're quoting out of context
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10:42<juan1>"try adding nomodeset to the boot line by editing grub at boot time" how i do that
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10:42<juan1>with nano i suppose
10:42<mtn>juan1: http://askubuntu.com/questions/38780/how-do-i-set-nomodeset-after-ive-already-installed-ubuntu
10:42<juan1>ok
10:42<juan1>thanks very much
10:42<mtn>juan1: no, just edit grub at boot time, as I told you
10:43<juan1>ok
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11:04<gayanw>Is there a disk utility that comes preinstalled with Debian minimal install (without gui)?
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11:07<Tuor>gayanw, something like grml?
11:08<Tuor>https://grml.org/
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11:08<itd>gayanw: What do you want to do? What are your requirements?
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11:09<gayanw>I'm looking for an disk utility, for partioning and stuff. If there's one that is already installed, I'd like to use that one. fdisk, parted are not there
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11:10<Tuor>Like bootable parted? IIRC there is some sort of parted-live.
11:11<gayanw>Tuor: so the minimal installation does not have a partitoning program by default, right?
11:12<amdgoon>system-rescue-cd.org
11:12<Tuor>gayanw, I don't know.
11:12<itd>gayanw: What is a 'minimal installation' for you?
11:13<danielsh`>just use aptitude to install parted / fdisk / gdisk ?
11:13<gayanw>itd: netinstall debian without GUI
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11:14<gayanw>danielsh: I know. what i want to know is if there's such program that comes preinstalled? .. so I don't have to install yet another disk utility if there's already one there
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11:16<juan1>hi, i cant acces tu grub
11:16<juan1>i habe debian jessie in hard drive
11:16<juan1>*have
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11:17<mtn>juan1: did you try what that link told you to do?
11:18<mtn>juan1: you held down the shift key while booting?
11:19<juan1>yes i tryed pressing shift key a lot of times
11:19<danielsh`>gayanw, I don't know... but I'd recommend that you use whichever partitioning tool you're familiar with.
11:19<juan1>all time
11:19<mtn>juan1: then add it to the grub files after booting. the link also tells you how to do that ;)
11:20<itd>gayanw: Not sure, which software will be installed in that case. Assume there is none and install your favorite tool. ;)
11:20<juan1>no, key shift dont showme the menu like say the link
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11:21<juan1>i cant acces to initial menu with shift
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11:24<gayanw>danielsh`: my bad. fdisk, gdisk.. are already there. I thought they were not installed because I was cheking them from a non root user
11:25<danielsh`>they're in /sbin
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11:25<gayanw>danielsh`: ok. thanks
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11:25<danielsh`>np
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11:33<erick3k>Hi
11:34<erick3k>does anyone know why would debian install work with virtio but on boot doesn't pick up ip?
11:34<petn-randall>erick3k: It's a known problem that the checksum fails, and thus the package doesn't get received. Lemme pull up the bug report
11:35<erick3k>oh ok
11:35<erick3k>is there a work around?
11:35<petn-randall>erick3k: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=717215
11:35<judd>Bug http://bugs.debian.org/717215 in src:isc-dhcp (closed): «dhcpd: 5 bad udp checksums in 5 packets»; severity: normal; opened: 2013-07-18; last modified: 2015-11-28.
11:36<annadane>according to the 2nd post "From a user perspective the workaround is easy: use a different NIC driver, ie
11:36<annadane>e1000 works with kvm"
11:36<petn-randall>erick3k: Sure, you got several options. Simplest is to use another virtual NIC (e1000 or rtl8139).
11:36<petn-randall>erick3k: This doesn't affect stretch, which is out in likely two weeks.
11:37<erick3k>petn-randall thank you
11:37<annadane>two weeks?
11:37<annadane>i missed a memo
11:37<petn-randall>!wwsr
11:37<dpkg>Debian 9 "Stretch" is planned for release on 2017-06-17. There's still bugs that you can help fix or help migrate from sid to stretch. Ask me about <stretch freeze>, <how-can-i-help> https://udd.debian.org/bugs/ https://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/
11:37<petn-randall>:)
11:37<annadane>oh, what the heck. i thought it was still march
11:38<annadane>my perception of time is apparently wildly off
11:38<petn-randall>Time flies when you have fun :)
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11:39<annadane>(anyway that being said, listen to randall or read the entire bug report instead of just selectively doing what i posted based on a single post)
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11:41<annadane>(and by read the entire bug report i mean read the entire page of answers from other people)
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11:50<erick3k>quick question, does cloud-init package install grow part or that is seperate?
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11:51<itd>erick3k: If you have 'cloud-init' installed you can use 'dpkg -L cloud-init' to show the content of said package.
11:52<erick3k>nice
11:52<erick3k>thank you
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11:53<itd>erick3k: And if you want to know which package provides a file give 'apt-file' a try or '/msg judd file some_file_or_path'.
11:54<erick3k>itd thanks
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12:01<erick3k>huh
12:01<erick3k>grow part is installed and not working
12:01<erick3k>where can i start to debug this
12:02<itd>dpkg: not working
12:02<dpkg>"Doesn't work" is a vague statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message?". Ask me about <smart questions>, <sicco> and <errors>.
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12:05<tjis>why does #debian let dpkg do so much of the talking?
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12:05<lu9dce>Hola
12:05<lu9dce>que tal gente
12:06<lu9dce>tengo un repositor local y queria compartirlo pop apt-p2p
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12:06<bremner>!es
12:06<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
12:06<lu9dce>ok
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12:08<itd>tjis: Would you mind to elaborate a bit on that?
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12:09<tjis>itd: the dpkg bot has all these canned answers, but why not just answer directly
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12:10<annadane>well, for one, so lurkers in the channel see the proper way to seek help in irc
12:10<annadane>two, the messages are actually pretty helpful
12:10<petn-randall>tjis: It's easier to memorize a keyword than the complete correct answer.
12:10<petn-randall>tjis: And also less to type.
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12:11<tjis>it seems rude and impersonal. I don't really mind though
12:11<petn-randall>tjis: Also you can find an answer to something just by searching the factoid database, even if you don't know the answer yourself.
12:11<petn-randall>!dmm remove
12:11<dpkg>If you want to remove the packages from deb-multimedia.org and reinstall the packages from Debian repositories, one could do this: dpkg --remove --force-depends $(aptitude search '?narrow(?version(CURRENT),?origin(Unofficial Multimedia Packages))' --disable-columns -F%p); remove the dmm repository from sources.list; apt-get update; apt-get install -f; install the still missing packages which were removed in the former process ...
12:12<petn-randall>tjis: Good luck memorizing the aptitude command in this one. ^^^
12:12<petn-randall>;)
12:12<tjis>haha I won't even manage to remember the keyword ;)
12:13<annadane>also, dpkg gets lonely if we ignore it for too long
12:13<tjis>sometimes I'll pm dpkg :)
12:14<erick3k>i am frustrated with debian almost beyond my give up point
12:14<erick3k>why is debian so broken
12:14<erick3k>?
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12:14<erick3k>apt-get install cloud-utils, does not install / setup cloud-init, grow part doesn't work
12:15<erick3k>can someone tell me how to make it work?
12:15<annadane>dpkg: doesn't work
12:15<dpkg>"Doesn't work" is a vague statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message?". Ask me about <smart questions>, <sicco> and <errors>.
12:15<erick3k>other distros this work out of the box
12:15<annadane>see? :)
12:15<erick3k>right, what you want
12:15<erick3k>cloud-init log?
12:15<erick3k>says nothing about growpart
12:15<erick3k>nor any error
12:15<erick3k>is like is not installed
12:15<erick3k>so what details would you like?
12:16<itd>erick3k: 'and what it isn't doing'
12:16<erick3k>cloud-init is now working
12:16<erick3k>am just having trouble with grow part
12:16<erick3k>it is not growing the partition
12:16<petn-randall>!ask
12:16<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
12:16<erick3k>https://i.imgur.com/eBPB2f0.png
12:17<erick3k>man stop the bots spam am not stupid
12:17<annadane>it would be better to help you if you weren't hostile
12:17<petn-randall>erick3k: Nobody implied that.
12:17<erick3k>do i have to explain what growpart do?
12:17<itd>erick3k: Please don't be mad. It won't help. :)
12:17<erick3k>well there is a lot of frustration involve
12:17<erick3k>remember the virtio bug
12:18<erick3k>spend hours figuring out why is not working
12:18<petn-randall>erick3k: It would help if you show us what commands you run, what output you get, and what outcome you expect. You only told us the last of the three.
12:18<erick3k>nowhere on the download page say it wont work with virtio
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12:18<erick3k>all those hours gone stupidly
12:18<petn-randall>erick3k: It's the first hit with google.
12:18<erick3k>see my point?
12:18<erick3k>yes, i eventually figured
12:18<petn-randall>erick3k: If you just copy and paste the error message from the log, it the first entry you hit.
12:19<erick3k>but is something so commonly use there should be a big ass red sign on the download page
12:19<annadane>"download page"...
12:19<erick3k>too many people wasting time
12:19<erick3k>trying to figure why something so common such as virtio drivers are broken
12:19<erick3k>yes
12:19<annadane>see, if you downloaded something from a third party website and not from the repository that could be a problem
12:19<petn-randall>erick3k: If you want help, be constructive. Nobody will help you if you just rant along.
12:19<annadane>^
12:20<itd>erick3k: Which version of cloud-init do you have installed?
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12:20<erick3k>everything is latest, cloud-init works, everything works except for growing the partition on boot
12:20<erick3k>very simple
12:20<erick3k>https://i.imgur.com/eBPB2f0.png
12:21<erick3k>why? perhabs why am asking...
12:21<itd>erick3k: Could not parse your package number, please try again. ;)
12:21<erick3k>lol
12:21<itd>judd version cloud-init
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12:21<itd>judd versions cloud-init
12:21<erick3k>that command doesn't work
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12:21<petn-randall>,v cloud-init
12:22*petn-randall pokes judd.
12:22<itd>judd? :(
12:22<judd>Package: cloud-init on amd64 -- wheezy-backports: 0.7.2-3~bpo70+1; jessie: 0.7.6~bzr976-2; jessie-backports: 0.7.7~bzr1156-1~bpo8+1; sid: 0.7.9-2; stretch: 0.7.9-2
12:22<judd>Package: cloud-init on amd64 -- wheezy-backports: 0.7.2-3~bpo70+1; jessie: 0.7.6~bzr976-2; jessie-backports: 0.7.7~bzr1156-1~bpo8+1; sid: 0.7.9-2; stretch: 0.7.9-2
12:22<judd>Package: cloud-init on amd64 -- wheezy-backports: 0.7.2-3~bpo70+1; jessie: 0.7.6~bzr976-2; jessie-backports: 0.7.7~bzr1156-1~bpo8+1; sid: 0.7.9-2; stretch: 0.7.9-2
12:22<erick3k>cloud-init 0.7.6
12:22<petn-randall>heh
12:22<itd>erick3k: Latest? ;)
12:22<erick3k>well
12:22<erick3k>at least on the debian repo
12:22<petn-randall>erick3k: There's a newer one in backports.
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12:23<petn-randall>erick3k: You could try that.
12:23<itd>erick3k: No idea how this thing works, but there is bug #784004 which has your thing name in its description. ;)
12:23<judd>Bug http://bugs.debian.org/784004 in cloud-init (open): «cloud-init growpart module fails to execute due to different growpart version»; severity: normal; opened: 2015-05-02; last modified: 2016-07-27.
12:23<itd>erick3k: So, why don't you try backports? :)
12:24<erick3k>so why is this package installed on a default debian install?
12:24<erick3k>beyond me
12:24<petn-randall>erick3k: It's not? You have to install it.
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12:24<erick3k>apt-get install cloud-init does install it with the default debian source list
12:25<erick3k>why?
12:25<erick3k>if is broken
12:25<petn-randall>erick3k: Maybe because everything else still works.
12:25<erick3k>hum
12:25<erick3k>see no point, growpart not working is like your car works except for the water pump....
12:26<erick3k>making it useless
12:26<petn-randall>erick3k: Again, you're getting a piece of software free of charge, supported by volunteers helping you in your free time. Nobody has to listen to your rants.
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12:26<petn-randall>erick3k: s/your/their/
12:26<erick3k>am not ranting
12:26<erick3k>when i do something i do it right
12:26<blast007>erick3k: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=784004#15
12:27<erick3k>and am giving constructive suggestions
12:27<petn-randall>erick3k: Good to hear! You know the bug report now, I guess we'll see some patches soon?
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12:27<tjis>probably the package maintainers for cloud-init aren't here right now so constructive suggestions won't do much
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12:27<erick3k>then why debian doesn't pull it out of the default repo
12:28<erick3k>that's what am not getting
12:28<erick3k>whoever takes care of the repo
12:28<erick3k>is making people waste time
12:28<erick3k>terrible
12:28<annadane>erick3k, can you give the output of "aptitude why cloud-init"?
12:28<petn-randall>*plonk*
12:28<annadane>and also, yes you are ranting
12:28<annadane>please stop that
12:29<petn-randall>erick3k: Feel free to install from source.
12:29<erick3k>ok brb
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12:30<erick3k>and yes am ranting a bit after 3 days wasted and a customer waiting to use a debian template, the only distro i can't get to work
12:31<tjis>erick3k: if you're preparing an image, you might just want to go with stretch. it'll be stable in 2 weeks or so
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12:42<erick3k>i would if i didn't have a customer waiting
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12:43<tjis>well you can make the image now
12:43<tjis>no need to wait those two weeks
12:45<erick3k>yea, now do i have to comment out others sources if i add backport?
12:45<erick3k>https://i.imgur.com/FUETU0d.png
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12:46<blast007>no, you add the backports line. it doesn't replace your existing sources.
12:46<blast007>and you have to specifically tell apt/apt-get/aptitude to install something from backports
12:46<itd>erick3k: If you like to read: https://backports.debian.org/Instructions/
12:47<erick3k>ooh lord that thing installed exim
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12:48<blast007>"that thing"
12:50<erick3k>hehe, i used this instructions https://wiki.debian.org/Backports
12:51<tjis>well those instructions say nothing about exim
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12:53<erick3k>i added that to the source list
12:54<erick3k>performed apt-get upgrade
12:54<erick3k>and installed exim
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12:54<erick3k>with apt-get upgrade
12:54<erick3k>i didn't add anything about exim
12:54<erick3k>but anyways
12:55<erick3k>installed backport cloud-utils, cloud-init and still grow part is not working
12:56<erick3k>any idea?
12:56*itd is tempted to call dpkg.
12:57<annadane>what about it isn't working? can you give output?
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13:00<erick3k>annadane the partition is not growing
13:00<erick3k>https://i.imgur.com/rH9GBtX.png
13:00<erick3k>the module is on cloud.cfg
13:00<erick3k>https://i.imgur.com/10zUk2J.png
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13:03<erick3k>hold on uploading cloud init log
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13:03<erick3k>https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nAiVAt0rIG6Fl-4vEtvOpHR2e2F5W3j5OEO3POYhcKA/edit?usp=sharing
13:05<erick3k>any ideas?
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13:06<annadane>i'm afraid i don't know; someone else might
13:06<erick3k>thanks for trying
13:07<itd>erick3k: Please calm down a bit. If done you may try #debian-cloud ;)
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13:11<erick3k>debian-cloud is as dead as debian cloud project management
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13:13<Tuor>Hi, I'm trying to write an specific partitioning preseed. I can do it with lvm. this what I have right now works. But I want to do the same with encryption. the preseed code: https://paste.debian.net/958744/
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13:15<Tuor>I can't find any documentation about, how to use encryption. I can create an Physical Volume for LVM and then create Logical Volumes in it. But how can I create an encrypted partition? How to set the password?
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13:15<bremner>Tuor: are you maybe looking for man cryptsetup ?
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13:23<Tuor>bremner, I know how to encrypt partitions in a running system. I' looking how to do that automaticly when installing Debian on a Computer. I don't know how to preseed encrypted partitions.
13:24<bremner>me neither.
13:24<Tuor>^^
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13:26<Tuor>So that's why I'm looking for documentation about the pressed partitioning part of preseeding, especialy how to preseed encrypted partitions.
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13:27<Tuor>I have found documentation about how to preseed partitions but only without encryption or with completly automatic encryption. When I choos to completly automatic encrypt the drive, I can't choos, how much space should be used for each partition in the encrypted LVM.
13:28<Tuor>I hope it's understandable what I'm looking for ;)
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13:32<Tuor>I know this page and the file it's refering but there are only examples and explanations for lvm and raid. Not for encryption. https://www.debian.org/releases/stretch/example-preseed.txt
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14:05<catern>hey #debian, I once saw a page on the Debian wiki that listed ways, for each language-specific package manager, to generate Debian packages. does anyone know what page it was?
14:06<bremner>I guess I'd look at the pages of the appropriate packaging team
14:07<bremner>most have some tool like that.
14:07<catern>aha!
14:07<catern>https://wiki.debian.org/AutomaticPackagingTools
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14:54<mdx0>my display(s) are to much bright(ness) how I can adjust? sorry, for that question but if I dont fix it my eyes get damages. I use the pc's very often and I not yet be able to to fixed it. I already tried to controll the brightness in LXDE/ XFCE but without success.
14:55<Walex>mdx0: usually brightness is controlled via a hardware control
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14:56<mdx0>how I go aheadß
14:56<mdx0>?
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14:57<Walex>mdx0: if your monitor does not have a brightness hardware control there may be a "backlight" control
14:57<Walex>mdx0: check this: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/backlight
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14:58<Walex>mdx0: and this: https://askubuntu.com/questions/149054/how-to-change-lcd-brightness-from-command-line-or-via-script/149265#149265
15:01<mdx0>Walex, thanks a lot, but I will fix it a other day, in the garden bcz my eyes hurts at the moment.
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15:03<mdx0>now, one more question, if I open with crtl+alt F1 the tty1 console there some error messages. I would like to copy them and show this chat the few problems.
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15:05<mdx0>but without writing down on paper
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15:05<Walex>mdx0: best way is to install the console mouse daemon, then you can cut and paste: it is called 'gpm'. Make sure that you do this from graphics so tty1 does not scroll
15:05<mdx0>how I go ahead?
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15:06<mdx0>thanx
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15:09<mdx0>how I can from X show tty1?
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15:19<mdx0>Walex, how does it works? with touchpad?
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15:58<sbstn>I am wondering why pam_umask doesn't seem to work on gnome, works just fine on tty. Using pam_umask and UMASK configured to 0027 in login.defs, running sid
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16:16<itd>sbstn: For sid #debian-next, please. :)
16:18<sbstn>itd: oh, didn't realize. thanks
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18:11<winston>Hi everyone. I'm here 'cause I can't understand why I can't install a package. I'm on Stretch RC4 and want to install the "firmware-b43-installer" to make my wifi card work, but when I try to install it via the terminal or just by searching it on synaptic, there's nothing, this package is not listed
18:12<winston>But when I search for this package on the web, Stretch does have this package, and my source list is good (I just installed Stretch and the "CD" lines are commented)
18:12<annadane>,v firmware-b43-installer
18:12<judd>Package: firmware-b43-installer on amd64 -- wheezy/contrib: 1:015-14.1; jessie/contrib: 1:019-2; sid/contrib: 1:019-3; stretch/contrib: 1:019-3
18:12<annadane>do you have contrib in your sources list?
18:12<winston>just a sec
18:13<winston>No
18:13<winston>It's the reason?
18:13<annadane>so that's probably your issue; i think i'd also add non-free because some contrib packages rely on non-free
18:14<winston>Oh yes that's a proprietary package... I forgot about that ! Thanks a lot Annadane :)
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18:23<a>Hello
18:24<a>I need help to install EasyCap video capturing]
18:24<a>lsub
18:25<a>lsusb:
18:25<a>ID 18ec:5555 Arkmicro Technologies Inc.
18:25<a>I only get a blue screen when trying to watch
18:25<blast007>is it a tuner device?
18:26<blast007>or is there multiple ways it can take video (like composite and S-Video)?
18:27<a>second option
18:27<a>I'm trying to capture video from a NTSC camera
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18:28<blast007>okay, I've got a similar device, let me try here. what software are you trying to use to view/capture? VLC?
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18:35<blast007>hmm, mine throws up some warnings in dmesg essentially saying it can't detect what it is and "Currently, V4L2 is not supported on this model", so I guess I might not be able to test here
18:36<a>blast007, I tried VLC, Cheese and TVTime
18:39<blast007>in VLC, when selecting the capture device, there's an "Advanced options" button. In there, there's an 'Input' setting. Maybe changing that would select a different video input?
18:39<a>blast007, Here dmesg detects it
18:40<a>[ 5589.009302] usb 2-1: USB disconnect, device number 6
18:40<a>[ 5597.098884] usb 2-1: new high-speed USB device number 7 using xhci_hcd
18:40<a>[ 5597.434319] usb 2-1: New USB device found, idVendor=18ec, idProduct=5555
18:40<a>[ 5597.434331] usb 2-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0
18:40<a>[ 5597.434338] usb 2-1: Product: USB2.0 PC CAMERA
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18:40<a>[ 5597.454850] usb 2-1: Warning! Unlikely big volume range (=11903), cval->res is probably wrong.
18:40<a>[ 5597.454857] usb 2-1: [2] FU [Mic Capture Volume] ch = 2, val = 384/12287/1
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18:40<blast007>!paste
18:40<dpkg>Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>.
18:40<a>Hello. I'm back
18:40<a>I was kicked for flood
18:41<a>blast007, you mean selecting, on VLC, the capture device?
18:41<blast007>did you see my comment about VLC?
18:41<a>I select /dev/video0
18:42<a>It gives me a blue screen
18:42<blast007>mine has a "Input" option that is set to 0, and after that "Audio input", so I assume the first "Input" is for video
18:42<blast007>not the video capture device
18:43<blast007>note that I am running Debian Stretch, so I can't say for sure that VLC will have the same options if you're on Jessie
18:43<a>Input set to 0 = OK. Set to 1 gives me an error
18:43<a>I'm on Debian 8
18:43<blast007>k, was worth a shot :)
18:43<a>blast007, when I open VLC from terminal and select capture device, it gives me an error:
18:44<a>Failed to open VDPAU backend libvdpau_nouveau.so: cannot open shared object file: file or directory not found
18:44<a>But I failed to install this nouveau thing
18:44<blast007>sounds like that's just for hardware accelerated video decoding if you have an nVidia card
18:45<a>blast007, when I open cheese on terminal, it gives me this error:
18:45<a>(cheese:11470): Gtk-WARNING **: Calling Inhibit failed: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.gnome.SessionManager was not provided by any .service files
18:46<a>blast007, when opening tvtime from terminal, it gives this error instead:
18:46<a>videoinput: Driver won't tell us its norm: inappropiate ioctl for device
18:47<a>The screen gets green and flashing, with a strip on top. The name of the window turns to "drivers wanted"
18:47<blast007>try this from the terminal: v4l2-ctl --device=/dev/video0 --list-inputs
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18:47<annadane>is there a command to get source packages for every binary package on my system?
18:48<a>blast007, command not found
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18:49<blast007>install the v4l-utils package
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18:50<a>Command accepted
18:50<a>ioctl: VIDIOC_ENUMINPUT
18:50<a> Input : 0
18:50<a> Name : Camera 1
18:51<a> Type : 0x00000002
18:51<a> Audioset : 0x00000000
18:51<a> Tuner : 0x00000000
18:51<a> Standard : 0x0000000000000000 ()
18:51<a> Status : 0x00000000 (ok)
18:51<a> Capabilities: 0x00000000 (not defined)
18:51<a>End of print
18:52<annadane>please don't paste lines like that in the channel
18:52<annadane>use paste.debian.net
18:52<annadane>it floods the channel otherwise
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18:54<a>OK annadane
18:54<a>blast007, was this result helpful?
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18:57<annadane>also please ignore my earlier question
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19:01<agaida>annadane: i guess that you not really would download all source packages for the installed packages - but in case maybe this would helP :)
19:01<agaida>for i in $(dpkg -l | awk -F ' ' '{ print $2}'); do apt source $i; done
19:01<blast007>a: dunno, it looks like it just shows one input
19:01<blast007>a: so I'm kinda out of ideas
19:01<a>But how many inputs should appear?
19:01<annadane>i said ignore my question!! :P (but thanks)
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19:03<blast007>a: I would think at least two :)
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19:18<a>Hey blast007 I discovered I can capture the audio
19:19<a>I select on VLC the audio device I want (hw:1,0) and it reproduces it synced with the video on the camera
19:19<annadane>do you even get source files by default? i know the wiki says "Sources are normally not installed" but i don't know whether they mean "installed" or whether you get them at all within some directory
19:19<a>Bu the video still doesn't get into the PC
19:20<annadane>(i assume they're just not downloaded at all to begin with because you're already installing binaries...)
19:20<annadane>but the wording's a bit unclear
19:21<blast007>yeah, you generally only get the source if you're wanting to custom compile something (or if you need to dig into the code to see how something works, as sometimes documentation is a bit lacking)
19:21<annadane>yeah so you have to specifically download it seperately
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19:24<annadane>the reason my sources list doesn't have src in it is because when i was upgrading to stretch someone told me to get rid of those entries
19:24<sney>a lot of people will tell you to "delete everything except x" when upgrading to testing, because the standard stable sources.list has a lot of extra
19:25<sney>this doesn't necessarily mean the deb-src lines as well, but they represent an optional feature anyway
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19:25<annadane>i suppose if i ever need a source package i'll just add it back in
19:25<agaida>right
19:25<annadane>just wanted to make sure you don't get them by default
19:29<agaida>normally™ you won't need sources - you will need them if you
19:29<agaida>a) want to inspect some settings or build rules
19:29<agaida>b) provide some patches
19:29<agaida>c) build a package with current upstream or so
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19:29<annadane>RIP.
19:29<agaida>ups - a line too much
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19:33<annadane>use paste.debian.net :-)
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19:34<agaida>hrhrhr
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19:39<a>Hey blast007
19:39<a>I'm getting video now
19:40<a>Appears it's a problem on my old camera cable
19:40<a>holy fsck
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19:41<a>Thanks for your help
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19:41<a>The contact inside the camera is oxidated
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19:46<blast007>ah, fun
19:46<a>It's giving me all those horror movie errors
19:46<a>And some VHS-style ones too
19:47<a>I'll buy a new cable
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19:56<whitechapel8733>hello
19:56<whitechapel8733>anyone out there
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19:59<whitechapel8733>I want to know what is the best distro based on debian that has built in ZFS support. I know that 17.04 has support for it, but I am not sure that it is production ready
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20:01<blast007>!zfs
20:01<dpkg>ZFS (originally Zettabyte File System) is a file system / logical volume manager developed by Sun Microsystems (http://deb.li/7xXU). The Debian GNU/kFreeBSD kernel since 7.2 has ZFS support, the userland utilities are packaged as zfsutils. Native Linux support from zfsonlinux.org, #zfsonlinux channel on freenode, is included in Debian starting with <stretch> and <jessie-backports> with some caveats due to license conflicts.
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20:13<whitechapel8733>any ideas folks/?
20:14<sney>"native linux support is included in Debian starting with stretch"
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20:15<sney>it's not in the installer, but there are ways around that. and #debian is not an advice channel for finding derivatives
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20:16<whitechapel8733>can you recommend a good channel?
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20:17<sney>http://paste.debian.net/959509/ hey look, it's me using zfs on debian.
20:17<sney>you do know debian is an OS, right? not just a framework for other people to make distros?
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20:18<whitechapel8733>sure, but I am hoping that it is well supported and in a mainline distro, because I want to make a ZFS pool out of EBS volumes
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20:21<sney>ah finally the real question
20:22<whitechapel8733>yes, the real question is.. is ZFS ready for production use? And is it wise to create a ZFS pool out of EBS volumes? Currently, we are using LVM and expending the LVM groups as we need additional space.
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20:24<agaida>whitechapel8733: the ubuntu people think so since a longer time - they made it default for lxd - and this container stuff is for production
20:24<sney>zfs has been ready for production use for a few years now. as for EBS, I hadn't heard of it but after looking at amazon's site for a few minutes I'd be surprised if it doesn't have a zfs backend itself
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20:24<sney>since you can expose zfs datasets as block devices. I've done it in production, even
20:27<sney>native support in linux for lvm is a lot more mature than it is for zfs, because zfs was ported in from the illumos space, and there are some significant differences. so if your goal is forever uptime with nothing weird happening ever, I would stay with lvm, probably. However, zfs does have a lot of well-documented advantages over lvm, and even though the linux support is new it's quite robust
20:28<sney>anyway, to return to the original query: if you want zfs support in linux, and you're not using a zfs OS root, debian will suit your needs quite well.
20:28<whitechapel8733>that's what I like to hear. I am creating a "proof of concept" ZFS backed SFTP server, because it needs to scale quickly if need be and LVM + EBS is kind of not fun.
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20:29<whitechapel8733>that's good to hear. And using Ubuntu as the distro?
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20:29<sney>I don't use ubuntu so I can't say
20:29<sney>the zfs drivers and utils are probably the same, but anecdotally debian's support is smarter
20:30<annadane>as in most things...
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20:33<whitechapel8733>I will look when I get a chance and see if there is another available AMI that is debian based that might work better. Ubuntu has ZFS installed in 17.04, but it is not an LTS release.
20:33<whitechapel8733>which I guess at the moment doesn't matter since it is a proof of concept.
20:33<annadane>i suspect you can check whether ubuntu has it via a google search
20:33<whitechapel8733>thank you to everyone for the helpful answers.
20:33<annadane>or, y'know, their help channels/forums
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20:39<pi_>anybody know how to force the ntp service to update my system time?
20:39<pi_>I tried sudo restart service ntp and nothing yet
20:41<annadane>ubuntu but i guess https://askubuntu.com/questions/254826/how-to-force-a-clock-update-using-ntp
20:41<annadane>(it's bad practice probably to link to ubuntu help forums, though. bad annadane.)
20:42<annadane>(there's probably actual better ways to do it)
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20:44<pi_>yeah the command it said didn't work for me annadan
20:44<pi_>I'm on jesse btw
20:45<sney>what makes you think you need to update your system time? what does your drift look like
20:45<pi_>hold on it's in the repos, sec
20:45<pi_>sney: it says it's midnight and the sun hasn't set yet
20:45<sney>are you sure it's not a time zone issue
20:45<annadane>are you in iceland? :)
20:45<pi_>lol no i'm on a pi so it's probably the fact it has no onboard clock
20:45<annadane>ignore me, being silly
20:45<pi_>i'd have to buy an add on module to keep the time
20:46<sney>it's 12:45 UTC right now. if your timezone is set to UTC then a correct clock would report this as the time
20:46<pi_>you might be right though, i might have timezone problem. how would i find that out?
20:46<annadane>oh, yeah. should have thought of that
20:46<sney>!timezone
20:46<dpkg>A time zone is the standard time (aka local time) in a particular region. To change the timezone on Debian systems, execute "dpkg-reconfigure tzdata". Alternatively: "cp -b /usr/share/zoneinfo/$TZ /etc/localtime". Note that tzselect(1) does not change the timezone. Postfix users: execute "service postfix restart" to update localtime in the chroot.
20:47<agaida>why would anyone use ntp when there is a good working systemd service for it?
20:47<sney>habit?
20:47<pi_>hmm i have both an /etc/timezone and a /etc/localtime
20:47<sney>just do the dpkg-reconfigure one, it will do the steps for you
20:48<pi_>sney: well whatever the steps were they worked. i was indeed on UTC time
20:48<sney>!next
20:48<dpkg>Another happy customer leaves the building.
20:48<agaida>sney: i had to learn it the hard way that habit is not the best idea sometimes ago
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20:49<sney>I use ntp because I run a pool server. I might be an edge case
20:50<sney>there are only 83 in this country! I'm a service provider /ot
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20:51<agaida>ok - thats a reason :)
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21:45<pi_>by the way my kernel is 4.4.34, can I just download the linux-headers for 4.4.0?
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21:47<pi_>not sure if I need to uncomment that #deb-src ... line in my sources.list or not for that
21:48<sney>linux-headers is a binary package
21:48<sney>some kernels have an actual version and a simplified version
21:48<sney>,kernels
21:48<judd>Available kernel versions are: experimental: 4.11.0-trunk-686 (4.11-1~exp2); sid: 4.9.0-3-686 (4.9.25-1); stretch: 4.9.0-3-686 (4.9.25-1); jessie-backports: 4.9.0-0.bpo.3-686 (4.9.25-1~bpo8+1); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.43-2); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.39-1+deb8u1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.88-1)
21:49<sney>you can see e.g. 4.9.0 in jessie-backports is really 4.9.25. I don't see a 4.4 though so you might be on your own for that one
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21:49<pi_>sney: i have a 4.4 in my repo, I just wondered if the 3rd number was that important
21:49<pi_>judging by your remarks I'd guess not
21:50<pi_>i think this is the problem with blindly telling people to do commands like apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) lol
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21:51<sney>it's uname -m, but that works for people using standard debian kernels. external support is not provided here
21:55<blast007>pi_: are you running Raspbian?
21:55<pi_>blast007: yes indeed.
21:55<blast007>!raspbian
21:55<dpkg>Raspbian is a distribution <based on Debian> made specifically for the <Raspberry Pi>. Raspbian is not Debian and it is not supported in #debian. Please use #raspbian on irc.freenode.net for support. http://www.raspbian.org/
21:56<sney>hmm. qed
21:56<pi_>lol ok blast007
21:57<pi_>i happen to also have an actual jesse install in the other room
21:57<blast007>I have a Windows system in the same room. Doesn't mean I ask for help with it here.
21:58<pi_>well from now on i'll be sure to ask only about that one then
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22:45-!-nonsch is "nonsch" on #debian #awesome #ooni #tor-project #tor
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22:50<ach>hi
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22:57<pi_>hi ach
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23:37-!-inne is "purple" on #debian
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23:57-!-amdgoon is "Android IRC User" on #debian-offtopic #siduction #debian-next #debian
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23:58-!-tomg is "*Unknown*" on #debian-offtopic #debian-next #debian @#debian-support @#no-systemd @#initfreedom
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