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#debian IRC Logs for 2017-06-05

---Logopened Mon Jun 05 00:00:20 2017
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00:04-!-dboehmer_ is "Daniel B\xF6hmer,,," on #debian
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01:24-!-gtristan is "Tristan Van Berkom" on #kernelnewbies #qemu #debian
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01:27<pi_>hi bitches
01:27<pi_>is there anyone here ?
01:28<pi_>this is just a test
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07:36<Tuxist>hi
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07:37<Tuxist>any dak developer here ?
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07:42<itd>Tuxist: Why do you ask?
07:42<Tuxist>i have created my own dak server for packages
07:43<Tuxist>now i have problem dak won't accept packages by process-upload
07:43<Tuxist>i got no error message
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07:45<danielsh`>you might try #packaging. (Don't know if there's a channel for dak specifically)
07:46<@Ganneff>#debian-ftp
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07:46<Tuxist>thanks
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08:36<stivet765464>hi
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08:37<olspookishmagus>any info on this? http://paste.debian.net/plainh/4cb3870d
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08:37<olspookishmagus>as in why I'm having both: 'apache2@service' and 'apache2@.service'
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08:48<itd>olspookishmagus: One is a service file and one an instanced service unit. Looks to me like they where introduced to resolve bug #798430.
08:48<judd>Bug http://bugs.debian.org/798430 in apache2 (closed, patch): «apache2: please add systemd service file»; severity: wishlist; opened: 2015-09-09; last modified: 2017-04-25.
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10:05<olspookishmagus>itd: interesting, how did you come up to that bug report?
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10:16<itd>olspookishmagus: by chance ;)
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11:12<stevenm_>Hey - usually in my scripts when it pre-seeds with debconf answers before an apt-get... if its preseeded passwords i use the reset on that field after the apt-get is over...
11:12<stevenm_>but do I actually need to? it seems debconf-show just says 'password omitted' for those fields and '/var/cache/debconf/passwords.dat' just has the values set to blank
11:13<stevenm_>maybe this was a precaution on older debians? not sure - i can't find any trace of the passwords - are they consumed once read at least once?
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11:15<dpkg>Parrot OS (https://www.parrotsec.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution. It is based on Debian testing, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #parrot on irc.frozenbox.org or try the mailing lists at http://lists.parrotsec.org/listinfo. Also ask me about <based on debian>.
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13:45<Expression93>Hi all, looking for help in regards configuring a pptp server properly, I am currently using pptpd, for which I have configured it to allow me to connect, but it doesn't allow me to browse the internet if I enable the use of the remote server's gateway (in my windows settings). For some reason the server won't forward my connection to the gateway... someone has described the same problem here (http://www.linuxquest
13:45<Expression93>ions.org/questions/linux-server-73/vpn-not-routing-through-server-but-still-local-routing-pptpd-4175491948/), but I am concerned that the fix (see first reply) may result in me no longer being able to access the server remotely (as I login with PuTTY). Can anyone help?
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13:58<jelly>Expression93, a workaround could be to make a specific route for server IP over your current gw, _then_ set up a default route over ppp. ppp client is usually supposed to do that on its own.
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13:59<Expression93>jelly, you'll have to most sincerely excuse me, but I'm rather new when it comes to use of servers for the purpose I am trying to achieve (I want to use my server as a VPN to access the internet).
14:01<jelly>do you know, in general, how the routing table on your OS works?
14:01<Expression93>Not the slightest. :')
14:02<Expression93>My local machine is using Windows... which is what I'm trying to create a VPN Connection on (using VPN in Network Settings), I am connecting to an essentially default config of a pptpd server which I followed a couple guides to set up.
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14:12<itd>dpkg: why not pptp
14:12<dpkg>PPTP is cryptographically broken and not recommended for use. http://pptpclient.sf.net/protocol-security.phtml http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PPTP#Security
14:13<Expression93>Yeah doing some further googling basically gave me such results... so I am now looking into OpenVPN instead.
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14:17<itd>Expression93: Just thowing some links at you: https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-handbook/sect.virtual-private-network.en.html https://wiki.debian.org/OpenVPN
14:18<Expression93>Sorry, got disconnected... if you said anything after I reply about using OpenVPN... but BEFORE you just sent that message with the links itd I didn't see it.
14:18<itd>Expression93: You missed nothing. :)
14:18<Expression93>I did however find this, and used the linked auto-installer, which has got OpenVPN working immediately. https://vpnreviewer.com/openvpn-howto-debian-ubuntu-vps
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14:23<itd>Expression93: Nice to hear that it is currently working, but please don't execute random scripts from random locations as root.
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15:37<Chryseus>Hi, I'm trying to set my ntfs partitions so only my user can mount them, the default fuse settings keep conflicting though and I don't know how to override them.
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15:46<Walex>Chryseus: use the 'umask','fmask','dmask','uid','gid' mount options
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15:47<Chryseus>Walex: ok I'll try that
15:47<Walex>Chryseus: also probably you want 'inherit'
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15:47<Walex>Chryseus: example: inherit,nls=utf8,dmask=0077,fmask=0177,uid=YOURUID,gid=YOURGID
15:48<Walex>Chryseus: wait a second, I misread your question
15:49<Walex>Chryseus: you are asking so that only your user can *mount* them, not *access* them.
15:49<Walex>Chryseus: but regardless of who mounts them, if only your user can access them, isn't that good enough?
15:50<Chryseus>Walex: yes that should work fine
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15:50<Pepe_>Where can I find documentation about partman-auto/expert_recipe? for the preseed file
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15:51<Walex>Pepe_: I suspect that is a case of "read the source"...
15:51<Pepe_>Do you know where I can find them? :x
15:51<Pepe_>The entry on the wiki seems outdated
15:51<Walex>Pepe_: the whole thing is written in bash...
15:52<Walex>or probably actually dash
15:53<Walex>Pepe_: BTW by using keyword "expert_recipe" in Google I found some relevant posts
15:53<Walex>Pepe_: https://cptyesterday.wordpress.com/2012/06/17/notes-on-using-expert_recipe-in-debianubuntu-preseed-files/
15:53<Walex>Pepe_: http://www.bishnet.net/tim/blog/2015/01/29/understanding-partman-autoexpert_recipe/
15:53<Pepe_>https://sources.debian.net/src/partman-auto/137/ heh, I found a few recipes here as well
15:53<Pepe_>thanks
15:53<Walex>Pepe_: https://encrypted.google.com/search?q=%22expert_recipe%22
15:54<Pepe_>yep, thanks
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16:05<dpkg>Parrot OS (https://www.parrotsec.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution. It is based on Debian testing, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #parrot on irc.frozenbox.org or try the mailing lists at http://lists.parrotsec.org/listinfo. Also ask me about <based on debian>.
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16:30<itd>Cannot decide whether arlecchino is forgetful or trying to advertise parrot.
16:30<blast007>heh
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16:44<Quixote>Hi guys, can I ask a question here about security?
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16:46<itd>dpkg: ask
16:46<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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16:49<Quixote>Right, I have Debian Jessie. I have been runing it for over 12 months. Recently it has been spinning up highly while being more or less idle. I ran wireshark to find an "exotic" DNS query to d4rk4.ru . What are the steps to figure out if I am not having malware, etc?
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16:57<itd>Quixote: What keeps your system idle?
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17:00<Quixote>ltd: By idle I mean I am not running software that would cause the cooling fan to spin up. That is running simulations, watching movies, streaming podcasts, etc.
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17:01<bl4ck>hi
17:01<Quixote>hi
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17:01<itd>Quixote: (Which processes show up when you run top/ps; does your log contain anything interesting? (e.g. journalctl); where is your system connecting to? (lsof -i); ...)
17:01<catern>is there a good explanation somewhere of why Debian packaging is so much more complicated than the packaging of, say, Arch Linux or Slackware?
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17:05<itd>catern: Which part of the packaging do you perceive as 'more complicated'?
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17:07<catern>itd: you don't need to convince me :)
17:08<catern>but it's clearly more complicated - for one, arch/slack packages are generally a single file shell script, whereas debian packages have multiple files
17:08<catern>but that is for a good purpose :)
17:10<itd>catern: Are you able to name that purpose? If yes, does that qualify as answer for your question? ;)
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17:11<catern>no
17:11<catern>I can name some reasons
17:11<catern>but I'm not experienced
17:11<catern>so I'm looking for a well-thought-out explanation about it
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17:11<Quixote>itd: Currently everything appears normal from looking at top. Xorg, gnome-shell, udisks2, psenson, kworker. Journalctl - no journal files were found. lsof - i "just chat programs at the moment. I assume I should set up journalctl, shouldn't I?
17:13<itd>Quixote: Maybe. Or poke around in /var/log and read what's available. ;)
17:13<itd>Quixote: Btw. https://github.com/D4rk4 claims to have your domain as homepage.
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17:19<ach>itd my Debian shows up raw6 service is it bad?
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17:20<Quixote>itd: I did site search the domain and it seems to host Sysinternals Freeware mirror/copy
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17:22<Quixote>itd: Also his main page (script-blocker on) is literally a pirate :D
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17:23<itd>ach: Depends on the context. So, in which context?
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17:24<ach>oh new install new partion overwritten swap
17:25<ach>but i know also block it out
17:26<ach>so that nmap couldn't find it
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17:30<itd>ach: Given that context: I'm not sure.
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17:32<Quixote>itd: While checking /var/log I've found an empty folder for chkrootkit. I have never used it. Should I try running chkrootkit and rkhunter?
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17:33<ach>i don't know i think i keep it open
17:33<Pepe_>https://sources.debian.net/src/debian-installer/20170525/doc/devel/partman-auto-recipe.txt/#L85 This says the default filesystem is ext3, is it up-to-date? it's been updated on 2017-05-25 last
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17:36<ach>but anyhow it is just :: also localhost ipv6 where it is listening
17:37<Pepe_>https://wiki.debian.org/Ext4 says it's ext4 since squeeze. Where/How do I submit a bug for that?
17:37<itd>dpkg: debian-installer
17:37<dpkg>Debian 8 "Jessie" is now the "stable" Debian release. See http://www.debian.org/releases/jessie/debian-installer/ for images. Developers page is http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ . If you want to make custom install CDs, start with d-i. IRC: #debian-boot on irc.oftc.net. See also <errata>, <g-i>.
17:37<ach>or well i failed it is listen raw or i don't know localhost is 1
17:37<itd>Pepe_: You could try to ask #debian-boot what they think. :)
17:38<Pepe_>itd: k
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17:44<itd>Quixote: If you want, why not.
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17:53<Quixote>itd: Thank you for your help. I think I will try taking it from here.
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18:31<catern>hey #debian, is it true that in Debian there are no packages A and B which each depend on different minor versions of C? excepting really major version changes
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18:33<Hatsjoe>shouldnt be afaik catern, that right there gets you in a nice dependency hell, something that the debian repos are known for avoiding quite well
18:34<Hatsjoe>(at least for stable), wouldnt know about testing or other repos
18:35<bremner>catern: that would at least be a bug, since any suite only has one version of C, so one of B or C would be uninstallable
18:35<bremner>of course, sometimes bugs happen.
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18:36<catern>right
18:37<catern>my (mid-size) employer is undergoing some agonizing about how to approach development and dependencies
18:37<catern>personally I think we should just do what Debian does :) and that is an a good example
18:37<catern>of the benefits
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18:58<laurentdumont>Hey guys, it's my first transition from Stretch to release. Will anything change for anyone currently running stretch?
18:58<laurentdumont>Once Debian 9 becomes stable?
18:59<sney>you should make sure you have stretch-updates and stretch/updates enabled in sources.list, but otherwise no not really
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19:11<bill-auger>stretch-updates vs stretch/updates seems confsing - what is the difference - why arent they the same repo
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19:13<bill-auger>im glad you meantioned it btw - i never heard of this distinction - i just changed testing to stretch and testing/updates to stretch/updates
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19:18<bill-auger>i got an error trying to add it
19:18<bill-auger>E: The repository 'http://security.debian.org stretch-updates Release' does not have a Release file.
19:18<bill-auger>N: Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is therefore disabled by default.
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19:19<bill-auger>same error using http://httpredir.debian.org stretch-updates
19:19<itd>dpkg: stable/updates
19:19<dpkg>On Debian 8 "Jessie" systems, there are two repositories that you should have in your sources.list aside from your main mirror. You should have an entry for "jessie/updates" which is security updates (ask me about <security>) and also an entry for "jessie-updates" which is other updated packages (see <jessie-updates>). See also <sources.list>.
19:19<itd>dpkg: stable-updates
19:19<dpkg>jessie-updates is a suite providing updates to some packages (from <proposed-updates>) prior to a <point release>. All packages from jessie-updates will be included in point releases. https://wiki.debian.org/StableUpdates . Not to be confused with <jessie/updates> which is for <security> updates.
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19:20<bill-auger>ok got it - so why cant i add stretch-updates ?
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19:25<itd>bill-auger: Paste your sources.list to paste.debian.net, please.
19:26<blast007>!stretch sources.list
19:26<dpkg>A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for "Stretch" has three lines: "deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ stretch main" "deb http://security.debian.org/ stretch/updates main" "deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ stretch-updates main". Be sure to run «apt update» after editing sources.list. Also see <deb-src> <contrib> <non-free> <stretch/updates> <stretch-updates> <mirrors> and "man sources.list".
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19:49<bill-auger>my soucres.list --> https://paste.debian.net/969113/
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19:50<bill-auger>same error with http://deb.debian.org stretch-updates
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19:51<blast007>bill-auger: read what dpkg said
19:51<itd>bill-auger: Lines 7&8 are missing the '/debian/'
19:51<itd>bill-auger: The security lines are wrong too.
19:53<blast007>the security ones look right
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19:59<itd>blast007: Right, sorry.
19:59<bill-auger>adding debian/ to the stretch-updates line fixed it
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20:05<Fsociety00>HI
20:06<Fsociety00>I have problem
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20:07<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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20:14<itd>Did the location for security updates change in the last 10 years? (Asking since my source.list contained 'http://security.debian.org/debian-security' and I'm wondering why the '/debian-security'.)
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20:18<Saar>itd: it's like this in source.list deb http://security.debian.org/ stretch/updates main ... etc
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20:35<erdave>hello, I'm using debian jessie without systemd, and I'm unavailable to mount a 128MB SD card. The driver detects it, but doesn't link it as a removable devices (i.e /dev/sdX). The kernel log outputs the following: tifm_core: MMC/SD card detected in socket 0:0
20:35<ach>their is anyhow a apt-get tsl packet without config
20:36<ach>if you try to mount it then?
20:40<ach>is a kernel shell problem seems
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20:40<ach>i would try to mount it till kernel detects
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20:42<erdave>as I said, the kernel detects it (dmesg output of the tifm module above), but I believe there is a workaround that I'm missing...
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21:57<laurentdumont>Eeeee - Am I missing something really obvious or is a dynamic MOTD really hard in Debian Jessie?
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22:09<ElToro-Y-ElCuernos>Is this a good place to ask about Gnome? Especially if I am running Ubuntu? Issue: onscreen keyboard won't work.
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22:40<Tonk>Should I be able to directly copy my root filesystem to a thumb drive? And have it bootable? For an back-up archive.
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22:43<Tonk>i did so with dd, but the ext4 fs that was created was unreadable because of obsolete fsprogs?
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22:44<tomg2>no dd probably won't work for that, try mkrescue or something
22:45<Tonk>tomg2, ok, i'll give that a look.
22:45<Tonk>thanks.
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22:50<tomg2>flashybrid - automates use of a flash disk as the root filesystem maybe this one?
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22:55<Tonk>uh, i don't know... My root filesytem is already installed on a flash drive. I want to clone it to other flash drives, basicly making a back-up.
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23:01<robdeb>Hi all, I used a hard disk to install debian and slackware in dual-boot (did the same in an old desktop here some years ago succesfully). slackware was installed with lilo and I used grub to master boot records for debian jessie, but grub installation has failed...
23:02<robdeb>and other issue: I used firmware non-free media for debian, for it was needed for this laptop, and debian installed didn't recognize the other OS in sda3. Please, how to fix this issue ?
23:05<robdeb>my doubt is: should I install slackware without lilo ? did it affect grub installation for dual boot debian-slackware ?
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23:08<robdeb>Hi all, I used a hard disk to install debian and slackware in dual-boot (did the same in an old desktop here some years ago succesfully). slackware was installed with lilo and I used grub to master boot records for debian jessie, but grub installation has failed...
23:08<ach>maybe dpkg --reconfigure grub-pc
23:08<robdeb>and other issue: I used firmware non-free media for debian, for it was needed for this laptop, and debian installed didn't recognize the other OS in sda3. Please, how to fix this issue ?
23:09<ach>grub-legacy
23:09<robdeb>hi ach, thanks for attention :)
23:09<ach>or so
23:09<robdeb>ach, I saw here there is btrfs partition created, so I installed debian, but It can't be booted
23:10<robdeb>I've chosen 'btrfs' for debian jessie. In this case, how can I install grub ?
23:10<robdeb>I don't have any idea about how to install grub in this case. slackware is running fine
23:11<ach>which filesystem should not the problem if you could it install on it it should work
23:11<robdeb>yes, I see, you are right, ach, in my case here, where can I apply this command: dpkg --reconfigure grub-pc
23:12<robdeb>if I don't have access to debian installation ?
23:13<ach>you overwritten the normal boot and the newer bootsector don't work
23:13<ach>?
23:14<ach>you should boot then the live and mount the harddrive
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23:15<tomg2>Tonk, dd probably won't work due to different sizes, i think you'll have to make a filesystem, cp, and reinstall grub
23:16<tomg2>or whatever you like for booting
23:18<robdeb>hum, it's not clear for me...ach, in fact it seems I've overwritten the normal boot and the newer bootsector didn't work.....
23:19<robdeb>but, you said: I should boot then live and mount the hardware ?? boot then live means using a live-dvd
23:19<robdeb>?
23:20<ach>can but mustn't hangs on how far live it is
23:20<ach>but you install grub and all you have to do is delete out the live boot fomr the grub menu
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23:21<ach>you should choose your harddrive grub gets installed
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23:22<robdeb>unfortunatelly I'm trying to understand how this grub installation process should work.. still not clear for me, sorry :(
23:22<robdeb>slackware is booting normally here with lilo
23:22<ach>you boot some system and start the grub installation and let it detect the os's
23:22<robdeb>but, debian is installed but I can't access it...
23:22<ach>you also can use lilo?
23:23<robdeb>no ! I prefer grug, ach. can I use the slackware command line to install grub here ?
23:23<ach>but remind waht it was you just have to run the lilo deconfigure
23:23<robdeb> can I use the slackware command line to install grub here, ach ?
23:24<robdeb>but should I uninstall lilo first ?
23:24<ach>i don't know i think i never used it
23:24<ach>no
23:25<ach>if you have a debian life or dvd i would use it
23:26<robdeb>I have a normal debian dvd for 8.8 jessie installation
23:26<robdeb>shoul it work ?
23:26<ach>if not both ways blocked?
23:27<ach>you could choose repair or go install and choose install boot manager
23:27<robdeb>don't know, I'm afraid about it :(
23:27<robdeb>ok, ach, I'll try to it now
23:27<robdeb>hope it can work
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23:28<robdeb>thanks for help and support, ach :) !
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23:28<robdeb>nice to meet you here :)
23:28<ach>thanks to you too
23:28<robdeb>fine !:)
23:28<robdeb>Bye !
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23:28<ach>cu
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