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#debian IRC Logs for 2017-06-10

---Logopened Sat Jun 10 00:00:27 2017
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00:04-!-dboehmer is "Daniel B\xF6hmer,,," on #debian
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00:05-!-marnold is "Matt Arnold" on #debian #debian-offtopic #debian-irc #debian-kbsd
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00:16-!-quinerr is "OFTC WebIRC Client" on #debian
00:19<quinerr>hi, I've finished translations and reviews for release note, could someone help me uploading these changes?
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00:57<zhangxun>hello, guys, do you know how to use sslocal. shadowsocks client
00:57<zhangxun>hello, guys, do you know how to use sslocal . shadowsocks client
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01:01<quinerr>zhangxun: maybe ask in #debian-cn?
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01:09<GLolol>..that channel looks empty aside from dpkg
01:10<GLolol>maybe #debian-zh is the right place?
01:11<quinerr>oops, sry to mention #debian-cn is in freenode
01:13<GLolol>or that \o/
01:14<quinerr>and, is anyone responsible for release-notes here? :(
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08:50<david-e>I need to install gcc3 on a jessie machine: any usefiule links for doing it?
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08:55<bremner>david-e: that's going to be a challenge; the last release of gcc-3 was 12 years ago
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08:56<bremner>david-e: maybe you can install debian etch in a VM.
08:56<david-e>bremner: I was hoping to just have to put the right line in apt.list...
08:56<david-e>bremner: I'm trying to do that inside a docker container
08:57<david-e>of course I can use an old image (i've done that already)
08:57<nicoo>david-e: Bringing in etch packages in your jessie install sounds painful. However, you should be able to make an etch deboostrap and chroot to it
08:58<bremner>I would be honestly surprised if gcc-3 is buildable from source in jessie using stock gcc / libc
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08:58<david-e>bremner: I see. weel given this, I'm not sure I'll try it. glad I've asked it before...
08:58<david-e>bremner: nicoo thanx alot
09:00<david-e>I can do everything already from a container running on my stretch machine, which is more than fine
09:01*nicoo nods.
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09:09<david-e>found https://packages.debian.org/source/jessie/gcc-3.3
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09:09<david-e>which confuses me
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09:13<bremner>apparently that's just to build an old libstdc++, presumably for out of date propietary software
09:14<david-e>bremner: I see
09:15<bremner>david-e: if you're determined, you could look at the source package (apt-get source gcc-3.3)
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09:25<chrishell>I have an issue while creating a new kernel and in special installing the initrmfs onto the /boot partition. I purged all kernels on /boot except for one and now I have 122 MB free space but I guess there is too much stuff within this initramfs
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09:26<chrishell>I used as normal cp /boot/config($uname -a) .config && make oldconfig
09:27<chrishell>its on a debian stable system and the latest kernel from kernel.org. Its a i686 system
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10:37<Walex>chrishell: what's your question?
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10:52<chrishell>Walex: ahh thank you, well how can I reduce the content of the initramfs, or at least how can I get how much space the new builded initramfs is about to consume?
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10:54<chrishell>by the way, the kenel I checked out is from the branch of Torvalds. Maybe this is normal that his initramfs is filled with experimental drivers?
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10:55<grawity>the initramfs isn't based on that
10:56<grawity>if you use Debian's initramfs tools, then its contents depend entirely on Debian's initramfs configuration
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10:59<swamprat>Just installed jessie onto a Dell Inspiron 17. But can't find the wireless chip, I guess. ifconfig yields etho0 and lo only. I looked at the bios and all it says is Wireless device = Intel wireless
10:59<swamprat>How do I get my wireless up and running?
11:00<grawity>can you check again using a command which actually shows *all* interfaces, e.g. `ip link` or `ifconfig -a`?
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11:02<swamprat>grawity: http://codepad.org/XvgohbUQ
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11:03<grawity>okay
11:03<swamprat>ip link lists the same thing.
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11:14<swamprat>is there anything I can do?
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11:29<Walex>chrishell: you can target the buyild of the initramfs to another directory
11:30<Walex>chrishell: if you are building kernels from "vanilla" sources you are an advanced developer, so it is difficultr to imagine something you haven't already thought of...
11:30<Walex>swamprat: try a backported kernel. Use an USB WiFi stick.
11:31<zykotic10>swamprat: have you consulted https://wiki.debian.org/iwlwifi ?
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12:00<matlock>swamprat devuan, a libre debian-based distro, works with iwlwifi out of the box
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13:18<chrishell> Walex: ohhh sorry sometimes one want to try something new. I made some vanilla kernel 10 years before if you beleve or not. Well it wasn't so hard then.. don't mind me :-/
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14:17<sherab>https://wiki.debian.org/EnvironmentVariables gives me this in on the page - Forbidden
14:17<sherab><p>You are not allowed to access this!</p>
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14:18<bremner>sherab: what browser?
14:18<sherab>bremner, firefox
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14:19<sherab>on debian
14:19<sherab>iceweasel?
14:20<bremner>can't duplicate that, but I'm still running 45.9.0esr
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14:20<sherab>bremner: i get the 403
14:21<sherab>bremner: i'll try chromium
14:21<bremner>sherab: try firefox in --safe-mode, also
14:21<sherab>bremner: chromious produces same result
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14:21<sherab>bremner, safe mode?
14:22<bremner>it's an option to the firefox command. disables extensions.
14:22<sherab>bremner, from cli?
14:23<sherab>bremner, same result
14:24<localhorst>That
14:24<localhorst>whoops
14:24<localhorst>premature enter
14:24<bremner>sherab: do you have some kind of proxy?
14:24<sherab>bremner: vpn pia
14:24<localhorst>That's probably because of an ip block.
14:25<sherab>localhorst, you talking to me :-)?
14:25<localhorst>yep
14:25<sherab>localhorst, OK, so disconnect vpn?
14:26<localhorst>Either that or add a route to access the wiki directly while bypassing the vpn.
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14:41<annadane>the debian wiki is known for blocking vpn's
14:41<annadane>i don't know whether it's intentional or not
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14:44<localhorst>The wiki software can't block abusive ip-ranges from write access but only block them completely.
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14:44<grawity>why bother implementing read-only mode if you can just tell your users to piss off
14:46<localhorst>because there's always collateral damage when blocking large ip-ranges
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14:47<localhorst>The majority of users are just reading so if you just give them read-only access most of them won't even notice the block and the annoying ones won't have their fun anymore.
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15:48<thoreau>Evening.
15:48<thoreau>I tried creating a user with the command "sudo adduser --system --group freenet"
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15:49<amacater>Did the group freenet already exist?
15:49<thoreau>Nope, the user was created successfully.
15:50<thoreau>The problem comes soon after: When I try logging into it using the command 'su "$SHELL" freenet', I am asked for a password.
15:51<thoreau>I don't know what that password is, I haven't set one. Hitting Enter straight away doesn't work.
15:51<thoreau>Wait.
15:53<thoreau>Yep, typing in the root password didn't work either.
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15:53<amacater>Are you just trying to execute a shell as user freenet
15:53<thoreau>Yes.
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15:57<amacater>Something like https://serverfault.com/questions/44400/run-a-shell-script-as-a-different-user may help :)
15:58<thoreau>Thanks amacater. ;)
15:58<amacater>Use a search engine for "Execute Linux command as another user"
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16:02<localhorst>thoreau: sudo su
16:02<sney>sudo -u freenet command
16:02<sney>to get a shell, sudo -u freenet -i
16:02<sney>don't sudo su, that's redundant. :P
16:03<localhorst>No it isn't. With only su as non-root su asks for a password.
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16:03<uso>is there an easy way to list all packages from contrib and non-free sections which are installed on a system?
16:03<robdeb>Hi all, please, is there a critical limit on using 'youtube-dl' through backports version ?
16:04<blast007>robdeb: what do you mean?
16:04<sney>localhorst: using 'su' is redundant because sudo can give you the shell by itself. 'sudo -i' or 'sudo -s' - running 1 command. 'sudo su' - running su with sudo for no reason other than you read it somewher
16:05<robdeb>Hi blast007, nice to meet you again :) Sorry, blast007, bad formulated question: I wanted to mean: is there a basic limit on using backports in your Debian stable ?
16:05<sney>I realize the sudo manpage is too long to read in one sitting, but knowing what your utilities can do is a good thing, too
16:05<blast007>robdeb: what limit are you referring to?
16:07<robdeb>in backports section, Debian Project explains you must to take care on using too much backuports
16:07<sney>uso: iirc there's a way to do it with aptitude, but I don't remember and the channel bot is missing
16:07<robdeb>for, applications through backports are stable enough to be used, but not as stable as stable releases
16:08<robdeb>at present, I'm using about 5 applications through backports, and also the Linux kernel, for 'btrfs' usage
16:08<thoreau>Thanks robdeb, that worked.
16:08<robdeb>Hi thoreau ! Sorry, what has worked fine ?
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16:09<sney>robdeb: it's just because backport packages are not tested together, so stability can't be as guaranteed as it is with stable. there's no hard limit on how many you can use or anything like that, just a warning to be aware of odd issues that MIGHT arise from an untested combination of software.
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16:10<localhorst>sney: Of course, you're right. I'm using sudo, too. I just wanted to give thoreau a hint so he knows why he had to provide a password.
16:10<thoreau>I'm sorry robdeb. I meant localhorst. Using "sudo su" instead of just "su".
16:11<thoreau>It was his suggestion.
16:11*sney mumbles something about cargo cults
16:11<robdeb>I see, sney, thanks for technical information about it ! Always happy when I see you here sney ! The same for blast007 :) Really thank you !
16:12<uso>sney: I hope so, but I'm not good with aptitude's query syntax, will the bot be away for longer?
16:13<sney>uso: aha, I always forget there's a web search as well. here you go. http://ircbots.debian.net/factoids/factoid.php?key=non-free+list
16:13<uso>sney: I need it on the system, preferable at the command line
16:14<sney>huh?
16:14<uso>oops, misanderstood you :)
16:14<uso>the bot ...
16:14<sney>np
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16:16<uso>sney: that works, thanks!
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17:01<robdeb>Please, I would like to know if there is in the debian stable repository, some Gcompris-like application (for children of 3.4, 5 years old), but aimed at children aged 8 to 10 years-old
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17:08<piper>robdeb: I know there is https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-jr/ not sure if they have what your looking for https://blends.debian.org/junior/tasks/
17:10<robdeb>ok piper, I'll check it out, thanks for information and support given :)
17:10<piper>robdeb: no problem
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19:49<robdeb>Hi all, please, what's the name of the gnome videos player in the debian stable repository ?
19:50<danielsh>totem? http://sprunge.us/UUfD
19:50<robdeb>is that "apt-get install gnome-mplayer" ?
19:50<robdeb>hi danielsh !
19:50<robdeb>oh, that is it ! totem. Really thank you !
19:50<danielsh>cheers :-)
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21:01<robdeb>Please, is there an application in the debian repository similar to google maps used in windows?
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21:04<robdeb>oh, I've found here, in debian stable repositories: googleearth-package
21:04<blast007>robdeb: google maps is a website, so... you could just use google maps
21:05<robdeb>it's googleearth-package, blast007, and it's existing in Debian stable repositories !
21:05<blast007>that's Google Earth, not Google Maps
21:06<blast007>and Google Earth that's not technically "in" the repo. I believe that package is just a wrapper that downloads it from Google.
21:07<blast007>run 'apt-cache show googleearth-package' and read the last paragraph of the description, specifically
21:07<blast007>well, actually the whole description is worth reading.
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21:09<robdeb>I'm back
21:09<robdeb>oh, I see, blast007, still installing it here
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21:10<robdeb>not in the 'setting up' phase yet
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21:11<blast007>doesn't sound like it install google earth. sounds like it installs a package that helps you make a google earth .deb that you can then install.
21:11<blast007>what kinds of things are you wanting to do?
21:12<robdeb>to check this region I live through google-earth, like I used to do in windows before, blast007
21:13<robdeb>blast007, please, I used this link as reference for this package: https://packages.debian.org/jessie/misc/googleearth-package
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21:15<blast007>robdeb: tried https://www.google.com/maps/ ? they've added some of the Google Earth features to that, like 3D terrain and buildings.
21:16<robdeb>not yet, blast007, but, in this case, should I remove this googleearth-package first ?
21:17<blast007>depends if you still need to get earth
21:17<blast007>just saying you might not need the features of earth if google maps is enough
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21:19<robdeb>I saw the link you've passed me, blast007, but it wasn't about this application I was referring to. I referred to google-earth in windows, that permit you to see all streets, avenues, etc, in the earth planet
21:20<robdeb>installed googleearth-package here, but I can't find it
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21:23<blast007>yeah... google maps does that too
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21:26<robdeb>I see blast007, now I'm quite confused here :(
21:27<robdeb>rebooting here
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22:28<co>hi
22:28<co>someone is here????
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22:31<annadane>!ask
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22:31<annadane>well, they apparently left anyway
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22:32<annadane>don't understand why people ask if anyone's in the *help* channel...
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23:03<Kadigan>annadane: it's the eternal conflict of "I want help from a live person" vs "I want help on IRC".
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23:04<Kadigan>Besides, I've often found myself in a position precluding me from being able to wait excessively for someone with knowledge pertaining to my case to finally show up and care enough to help me.
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23:53<bebo>exit
23:53<bebo>exit
23:53<bebo>quick
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