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#debian IRC Logs for 2017-06-11

---Logopened Sun Jun 11 00:00:29 2017
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00:03<mnuhmnuh>Kadigan: it's the eternal conflict of "help!"
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00:03<mnuhmnuh>Kadigan: vs. how one gets help.
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00:06<angel2>...
00:06<angel2>wey
00:06<hubot>Makefile:674: recipe for target 'crypto.o' failed
00:06<hubot>I can't compile OpenVPN from source
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00:07<mnuhmnuh>i think the one with the problem is in the best position to solve it. they understand, intimately, what the problem is, for them. research the solution, dummy. duh.
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00:08<angel2>hi
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00:09<mnuhmnuh>hubot: then you haven't learned enough about how to build openvpn, obviously. how can anyone but you fix that?
00:10<NightMonkey>Howdy. I'm just curious where apt-get stores files when it is "unpacking" debs for installation?
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00:10<NightMonkey>It's temporary directories.
00:10<NightMonkey>Its temporary directories.
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00:12<mnuhmnuh>NightMonkey: after downloading (apt-get upgrade), try find in /var.
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00:14<mnuhmnuh>find /var -type f -name blah.deb
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00:16<mnuhmnuh>/var/cache/apt/archives according to apt-get manpage.
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00:18<NightMonkey>mnuhmnuh: Thanks.
00:18<_vr_>Hey guys. I set up Compiz on Stretch, running MATE desktop . For the most part it works but for some reason the virtual desktop switcher in MATE is non functional. Any ideas?
00:18<_vr_>I did try Compton but found it was kind of slow
00:21<mnuhmnuh>_vr_: try CTRL-ALT-RightArrow and LeftArrow
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00:22<_vr_>mnuhmnuh: Doesn't work if Compiz is active
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00:22<_vr_>mnuhmnuh: Is the desktop switcher application basically sending that same keycode, which is why it's not working?
00:23<jmcnaught>_vr_: does compiz have its own config/key bindings for virtual desktops?
00:24<_vr_>jmcnaught: Maybe? Viewport switcher?
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00:24<_vr_>When I used Compiz with MATE on Debian Jessie everything "Just worked"
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00:50<_vr_>jmcnaught: DISABLING view port switcher did the trick
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02:02<Jimbo>I am trying to install veracrypt on debian 7 and when I open the installer it says that the FUSE library and Device mapper are required yet both of them are installed. So why isnt it working?
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04:42<frikimaster>Hi, is the code under https://packages.debian.org/ available? I've found only the code for https://udd.debian.org/
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04:57<ach>i wondered that toward that i can't download anymore just bitcoded or tsl what not have the tsl packet installed too
05:01<larjona>frikimaster: yes, it's in https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/webwml/packages.git/
05:02<frikimaster>larjona: thanks mate, i'll take a look
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08:37<EmleyMoor>When I insert a USB pendrive into my recently purchased hub, in some of the ports I get "No object for D-Bus interface" when I try to access the device in the Gnome file manager... and the number of ports affected seems to be rising. Why would this be and how do I resolve it?
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08:38<blast007>could just be a bad hub?
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08:54<ach>question is: speaker do sound by effects but not special on
08:58<EmleyMoor>blast007: Better just not be. I think something is "sticking", software-wise, meaning I can use each port for this once only...
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09:00<ach>so no address survive
09:01<ach>mine address stand
09:01<EmleyMoor>I'll try powercycling the hub
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09:04<EmleyMoor>Powercycling the hub makes no difference, and the number of affected ports seems to rise with each use
09:05<EmleyMoor>It seems I can use each port on this hub once only for this kind of device, per (some other thing)
09:06<EmleyMoor>I suspect per reboot, or per restart of some service or other
09:06<ach>bfz
09:06<EmleyMoor>(if the latter, that would be acceptable)
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09:07<ach>bfz full
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09:08<ach>bfz ddos
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09:11<ach>statisticly i would use once rush great amount data on it
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09:12<ach>is yours protect you
09:13<ach>seem i alone with sound problem
09:13<ach>any help?
09:14<EmleyMoor>ach: What is the problem exactly?
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09:21<ach>your problem is heavier i don't know even how this can happen sound get noticed act clean while do effects change also do effects example appear noticeable sound but check in soundcard output no sound all it sound is effects example
09:22<EmleyMoor>I can barely understand you
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09:25<EmleyMoor>ach: In which language would you usually communicate?
09:26<ach>soundcard working but no sound come to speaker micro optic approved menu effects can hear
09:26<ach>i think english more perfect
09:26<ach>but german
09:27<EmleyMoor>!de
09:27<EmleyMoor>Hmmm...
09:27<ach>set , speaker, approved,
09:28<ach>mhm
09:28<EmleyMoor>Sorry, but I can't decipher the gist of your problew
09:28<EmleyMoor>problem*
09:28<zeta>#debian.de is the german channel
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09:29<ach>simple one question has pulse-audio a mixer?
09:29<EmleyMoor>Try pavucontrol
09:30<ach>wonder mostly in hardware menu their is no option i can choose but it keeps quiet out of...
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09:38<ach>yeah complete bullshit all gone wrong complete computer install ati firmware gdm3 broke kde broke restless delete all about ati back at boot no ati firmware gone back only gdm3 sound broke.
09:39<ach>hey hey
09:39<David>I have a ThinkPad T500 with libreboot and I am trying to install Debian 9 (Stretch) Release candidate 4 following all the instructions in the Libreboot documentation to install Debian encrypted with full disk encryption. After the installation, the system boots, but it doesn't get to the desktop environment.
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09:41<David>The error message ends with: Gave up waiting for root file system device. Common problems: -Boot args (cat /proc/cmdline) -Check rootdelay (did the system wait long enough?) -Missing modules (cat /proc/modules; ls /dev) ALERT! /dev/mapper/matrix does not exist. Dropping to a shell!
09:42<David>Where should I go ask for help?
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09:46<zykotick9>David: did you call your LVM group "matrix" or something else?
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09:47<David>Yes, I did that, I carefully followed the instructions here: https://libreboot.org/docs/gnulinux/encrypted_debian.html
09:48<zykotick9>David: ok, just checkin'
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09:50<David>Thank you for your interest zykotick9.
09:51<zykotick9>David: i haven't used the encrypted / option for a couple of years - so have no suggestions sorry. best of luck. personally, the typing password twice _really_ bothered me, so i returned to using regular FDE without encrypted / <- i hear it is possible to use a key, so password only needs to be entered once... again, good luck.
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09:53<lindi->zykotick9: encrypted / does not require you to enter password twice
09:53<lindi->zykotick9: as long as /boot is separate
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09:54<zykotick9>lindi-: i'm refering to the instructions provided by LB to have everything encrypted - but you're still correct, if you use a KEY then just one password _IS_ possible...
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09:55<zykotick9>lindi-: sorry, i was saying encrypted / but what i meant was encyrpted /boot <- my bad
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10:30<ben_ergerg>hey mumax
10:30<mumax>hey ben !
10:30<ben_ergerg>mumaaax
10:30<ben_ergerg>fffff mumax
10:30<ben_ergerg>mefzefzef
10:31<mumax>have you lost your mind ben ?
10:31<mumax>i thought you were smarter than that.
10:31<ben_ergerg>I thought so too, until now.
10:31<ben_ergerg>do you have brain pills to cure my illness ?
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10:33<ach>overkill
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11:08<tank_>I have a question regarding ParrotSecurity, would you recomment installing it as an OS on a second laptop or use additionally a VM machine for a SAFE install
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11:12<bremner>!parrot
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11:13<bremner>ah, the bot is gone. If it was here, it would tell you where to get support for parrot.
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13:07<aruna_> hi, can someone please take a look here: https://pastebin.com/9vN2RfFp ( line #8 ) and tell me why ?
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13:08<mtn>aruna_: try using dpaste.com. pastebin sucks ;)
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13:10<aruna_>mtn: sorry will do hang on a sek
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13:11<thoreau>Evening.
13:11<thoreau>I'm having a sporadic problem quen my touchpad imidiatly recognizes a two-finger touch as a right click.
13:12<thoreau>When I intend to drag.
13:12<aruna_>mtn: http://dpaste.com/0ZPTMEH ( line #6 )
13:12<thoreau>Normal behaviour is resumed by logging out and logging in.
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13:13<thoreau>But I figure there must be a way to restart the touchpad driver through the terminal.
13:13<mtn>aruna_: how did you install that kernel?
13:14<thoreau>At least until Stretch comes about and then I expect there'll be new problems to solve.
13:14<aruna_>i installed a distro debian jessie 8 then downloaded 4.11.4 from kernel.org and compiled
13:15<mtn>aruna_: well, you did something wrong, since you have module problems. why not use the debian kernel?
13:15<aruna_>mtn: the distro was running 3 point something kernel
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13:15<mtn>aruna_: did you look in backports for a newer debian kernel?
13:16<aruna_>mtn: nope
13:16<mtn>aruna_: that is the right way to do it ;)
13:16<mtn>!debian-backports
13:16<mtn>!backports
13:16<aruna_>mtn: got ya and will try :) thanks
13:16<mtn>aruna_: welcome
13:17<aruna_>mtn: question please ? so i add deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian jessie-backports main
13:17<aruna_>mtn: then what ?
13:18*aruna_ never nackported before :(
13:18<aruna_>*backported
13:18<mtn>aruna_: https://backports.debian.org/Instructions/
13:18<aruna_>mtn: of course ... thanks again :)
13:21<David>I have a ThinkPad T500 with libreboot and I am trying to install Debian 9 (Stretch) Release candidate 4 following all the instructions in the Libreboot documentation to install Debian encrypted with full disk encryption. After the installation, the system boots, but it doesn't get to the desktop environment.
13:21<David>The error message ends with: Gave up waiting for root file system device. Common problems: -Boot args (cat /proc/cmdline) -Check rootdelay (did the system wait long enough?) -Missing modules (cat /proc/modules; ls /dev) ALERT! /dev/mapper/matrix does not exist. Dropping to a shell!
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13:24<aruna_>mtn: use this -> git clone https://anonscm.debian.org/git/kernel/linux.git ?
13:24<mtn>aruna_: what? instead of debian backports?
13:26<David>I've gotta go now, I'll be back after one hour.
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13:26<blast007>aruna_: 4.9 isn't new enough?
13:27<aruna_>blast007: no no it's fine i have not done this backport thing before so am flying blind :) can use some guidance
13:27<blast007>4.9 is packaged in jessie-backports
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13:28<blast007>you don't git to install it
13:28<mtn>aruna_: https://backports.debian.org/Instructions/
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13:28<aruna_>blast007: oh dear
13:28<aruna_>mtn: hang on reading now :)
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13:33<blast007>after you add the backports repo and apt-get update, you can install the backports kernel via: apt-get -t jessie-backports install linux-image-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'`
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14:12<aruna_>mnt: blast007: Guys I have a new problem but I like the backport way is a lot faster..
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14:12<aruna_>mnt: blast007 : can u guys please take a look: http://dpaste.com/0QR3T1G
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14:12<aruna_>mnt: blast007: line #52 onwards
14:12*aruna_ now woot ?
14:14<mtn>aruna_: why not use backports? that is the supported method of getting new kernels. I think I mentioned that before a coupld of times :p
14:15<towo`>that paste is from installing kernel from backports
14:16<aruna_>mtn: but I did what you said to do
14:16<towo`>aruna_, apt install open-vm-tools -t jessie-backports
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14:17<aruna_>towo`: oh man thank you so much :)
14:17<mtn>towo`: ty. I missed that
14:17<aruna_>mtn: np and thanks
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14:23<apostle>does anybody know how I can have a long directory name in nfs server /etc/exports
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15:25<juan1>Hi, I bought a laptop env envy 13 and I do not know what the driver is for the network card. On windows it says "Intel Dual Band Wireless-AC 7265". The second is that the installation is not installed grub and I do not have the double booteo. I disabled the BIOS from the security option and UEFI is disabled. I do not know what it could be
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15:29<juan1>Could someone help me?
15:29<sney>juan1: the wifi card is most likely an iwlwifi variant and you will need the firmware-iwlwifi package from non-free to support it
15:31<amacater>Boot from an installation .iso - use the rescue option, reinstall Grub
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15:33<juan1>sney: thanks
15:33<amacater>If windows is booting from UEFI, then you will need to install grub-efi. If you try and mix UEFI Windows and MBR Debian won't mix
15:33<juan1>amacater: thanks
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15:34<ryouma>is there a tool or set of commands i can run that says "ok, i have copied this partition which is my root, this partition which is my boot, and now i want to make it so i can boot from the new drive with the old drive not connected -- and i don't want debconf or grub stuff or initramfs to screw with this new drive EVER because it is for emergency backup booting"?
15:37<ryouma>my issue is no matter what i try, there is some overly-complex stuff that changes the new drive upon upgrading kernel etc. or the two drives get confused with one another, with initramfs pointing to the other one or something. i want the target drive sacrosanct and always bootable.
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17:09<test>Servus, Good Morning, everyone, what the fuck is -Fyyc?
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17:09<test>pls call me, thx
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17:11<test>pls, can mi help? Or a Channel?
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17:13<test>what the fuck is the debian german channel?! pls
17:13<mnuhmnuh>test: well YYC is Calgary, AB intl. airport, and -F may be a command line switch. what's the context?
17:14<mnuhmnuh>test: #debian.de
17:14<test>join @debian.de
17:14<test>ups
17:15<test>dies channel its not funny
17:15<test>this
17:15<mnuhmnuh>test: you're not helping us much to help you.
17:16<test>my english is very bad, can you pls speak german? Than i can help you!
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17:17<rob_debian>Hi all
17:17<mnuhmnuh>my german is worse than your english, trust me.
17:18<test>a ok my fail, i have the wrong syntec, sry
17:18<test>*x
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17:18<rob_debian>english people, german people, debian rules ! :)
17:19<test>My fail, sry
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17:19<mnuhmnuh>test: de nada.
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17:20<rob_debian>please, what is the name of i3 interface in debian stable repositories ?
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17:20<test>My write a user in color red,... can i too?
17:21<blast007>rob_debian: i3 :) (well, that's a metapackage that installs "the i3 window manager (i3-wm), the i3lock screen locker, i3status (for system information) and suckless-tools (for dmenu)"
17:21<blast007>test: no
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17:22<test>the URL is :https://wiki.debian.org/SourcesList
17:22<rob_debian>Hi blast007, happy to see you again !:) please, blast007, in the case of a complete graphical interface, like gnome, kde, mate, should I install i3-wm only ?
17:22<rob_debian>sorry if my question looks like stupidness :(
17:23<blast007>rob_debian: I have no idea. I don't use i3.
17:23<blast007>rob_debian: read the description of the i3 package
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17:24<rob_debian>yes, blast007, me too, only know openbox, kde, lxde, gnome and mate here
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17:24<rob_debian>thanks for great support and attention, blast007 :)
17:24<mtn>rob_debian: reading the arch wiki on i3 would be helpful, too
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17:24<mint>where i can do download from source Debian 9 Alpha?
17:25<rob_debian>fine mtn, thanks for suggestion and happy to see you again !:)
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17:26<blast007>mint: what do you mean?
17:26<blast007>mint: are you wanting source packages? or are you trying to install Debian 9?
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17:27<rob_debian>r4fkramer@debkramer:~$ cat /etc/debian_version
17:27<rob_debian>8.8
17:27<mint>I want Debian , but source only.
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17:29<test>pls cal us: uname -a
17:30<mint>I click in source https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/project/build/8.8.0/ but dont show.
17:30<mint>for look source from Debian 8.8.0
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17:34<rob_debian>Bye all !
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17:34<blast007>mint: if you're just looking for certain package source, you can look here: https://sources.debian.net/
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19:02<test>Give is a tool or a programm. whith leroning german? Sry i have a bad english on me xD
19:06<test>ups learing.. sagte ja kann kein Englisch
19:06<test>*n
19:06<bremner>!de
19:06<bremner>argh. bot still missing
19:07<test>No I am not a Bot
19:07<bremner>not you
19:07<test>Can you help me lern English?
19:07<test>Pls
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19:08<bremner>you want software to learn english?
19:08<test>yes i want lern english with software and social
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19:11<test>i gifve up to lern, wtf
19:12<bremner>you could try anki
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19:14<test>i can write know anki? or Joda? ;)
19:15<bremner>anki is software in debian
19:15<test>in this group never found anki
19:16<test>a ok, also is so what seirla or what the name is?
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19:18<test>ups sira
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19:19<rob_debian>Hi all, Please I'd like to know if there are many debian users having problems whenever they try to access yahoo. or if it's just a remote connection issue I'm facing here
19:20<test>https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=anki
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19:21<test>@rob wthat dto you want?
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19:22<test>your the right URL?
19:22<rob_debian>Hi test, quite disturbed here, for I'm trying to access yahoo about 1 hour, without success. Surely it's not a debian issue. I should use 'https://www.yahoo.com.br'
19:24<bremner>rob_debian: it has a bad ssl certificate
19:24<piper>rob_debian: https://www.yahoo.com/ works fine here in firefox nightly Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:55.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/55.0
19:24<test>pls call yahoo
19:25<test>ups: https://br.yahoo.com/
19:25<rob_debian>I see bremner, so that's probably the cause of this bad connection...
19:25<rob_debian>piper, the problem is: I'm trying to access it from South America :(
19:26<rob_debian>yes, test, that's what I've been trying for more than one hour
19:26<test>you come from german?
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19:27<rob_debian>no test ! I come from Sâo Paulo, Brazil
19:27<rob_debian>the result is always this: https://login.yahoo.com/config/mail?.intl=br
19:27<bremner>rob_debian: br.yahoo.com is ok, but www.yahoo.com.br is not
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19:27<piper>rob_debian: yes, i see that, hmm, i am in the US, my wife uses yahoo uk with no problem
19:28<rob_debian>hum, ok bremner and piper, I'll try to access only using .com, instead of .com.br
19:29<piper>rob_debian: or like bremner says br.yahoo.com is ok
19:29<test>.com is International
19:29<rob_debian>yahoo.com presents the same issue here, unfortunately, piper and bremner :(
19:29<rob_debian>for example, I access youtube or any google link quite fast
19:30<test>you must cal .com.br by writhing, not bei reading--- sry my english is very bad
19:31<piper>rob_debian https://br.yahoo.com/ works here
19:31<rob_debian>no problem test, I understood you, thanks :)
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19:31<rob_debian>piper, can you access your yahoo mail without any problem ? (surely if you use this service)
19:32<piper>i don't have yahoo mail
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19:32<rob_debian>ok,so I suggest you never try to get one of this..
19:33<piper>:)
19:33<rob_debian>debian sites I can access quite fast - faster than the speed of light, in fact. well, Debian is Debian :)
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19:36<test>i can over problems to acces of yahoo email... now i use tor, ....when this can help you
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19:36<piper>yes, i blame the cat
19:36<test>fuck my mind, english is not my languane
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19:37<piper>* Haftungsausschluss: mein Deutsch ist zum kotzen
19:37<test>Nein Sollte Heißen, ich kann mit Englisch nicht umgehen;)
19:38<piper>well, it's all i know ;)
19:38<test>xD
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19:42<test>you can call your wifs emal acc.?
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19:44<piper>test: no, but that is what she uses
19:44<test>You have Debian what? Uname -a, then you can call email your wife on Web or in shell?
19:45<test>she use a web gui?
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19:46<piper>test: she is a brit, i have 3 (out of 5) that live in england also
19:46<piper>3 kids*
19:46<test>one mom i must search "also"
19:47<piper>test: no, she dual boots between siduction and windows 7
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19:47<piper>but mostly uses windows :(
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19:47<test>windows is not the problem
19:48<piper>well, depends who you talk to ;)
19:48<test>you can writ the masage on all the system with email
19:48<piper>this is getting to OT
19:49<test>can i speak in read? our can this with my
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19:51<test>can i call your privat @rob_debian?
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19:52<rob_debian>yes, test !
19:52<rob_debian>you're welcome, no problem on callin me in privacy, test :)
19:53<mnuhmnuh>test: fyi - #debian-offtopic ?
19:53<test>@rob_debian. you can the eMail on your wife?
19:53<rob_debian>yes, test, after a long time waiting here, I can
19:54<test>@muhmnuh sry i can not Unterstän ding with you mean
19:56<test> @rob_debian pls call you my private, thx
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19:57<piper>test: Das ist Debian-Unterstützung, beitreten #debian-offtopic danke, gut ;)
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19:59<rob_debian>Bye all !
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21:49<jab>I'm trying to get systemd to suspend my laptop when I close the lid with an external monitor connected. I have 'HandleLidSwitch=suspend' and 'HandleLidSwitchDocked=suspend' in my /etc/systemd/logind.conf, but nothing happens when I close the lid with an external monitor connected.
21:49<jab>According to https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/logind.conf.html, 'HandleLidSwitchDocked' should set the behavior for when multiple displays are connected.
21:50<jab>Can anyone point me in the right direction?
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22:11<aruna_>hi what is the recommended way to build a python appindicator on debian jessie running gnome classic please ?
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22:16<Variouz>hello
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22:17<Variouz>hello arcade
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22:19<Variouz>help
22:19<Arcade>.ask
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22:21<Arcade>Variouz, just ask your question in the channel (here) if its related to Debian. Someone might get to you soon then.
22:23<bremner>they left, I think
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22:27<Arcade>yep: I could not remember the bot command but was trying some people just can't wait :)
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23:16<jab>I'm going to post my question to the Debian forums but will try to stay online here for the rest of the day.
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23:27<somiaj>jab: what video driver are you using?
23:31<somiaj>jab: are you running debian jessie?
23:32<somiaj>jab: what you have appears to be correct, I see two reasons why it isn't working. First is the systemd in jessie may be older and not support that feature, hence it won't work. I notice that optoin is present in my stretch systemd but not my jessie one
23:32<somiaj>the other is you ahve some other option elsewhere overwriting that.
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23:37<jab>somiaj: My video driver is i915. I am running jessie. Should I upgrade to stretch?
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23:38<jab>somiaj: I'm almost certain I haven't set a conflicting option elsewhere.
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23:40<somiaj>,v systemd
23:40<judd>Package: systemd on amd64 -- wheezy: 44-11+deb7u4; wheezy-security: 44-11+deb7u5; wheezy-backports: 204-14~bpo70+1; jessie: 215-17+deb8u7; jessie-backports: 230-7~bpo8+2; sid: 232-25; stretch: 232-25; experimental: 233-8
23:42<somiaj>It appears that option was introduced in systemd 217, jessie uses 215 so you don't have that option.
23:42<somiaj>Stretch is going to be released soon but is not released.
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23:42<somiaj>But you won't get that optoin in jessie by default. Looks like a newer systemd is in jessie-backports, you could try that, you could upgrade to stretch, you could just wait until stretch releases, then upgrade and not have that feature until then.
23:43<jab>somiaj: Thank you very much for the help. Do you mind explaining how you found when that option was added, so I can look up this sort of thing in the future?
23:44<jab>somiaj: Were you looking at the changelog?
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23:46<somiaj>jab: https://github.com/systemd/systemd/blob/master/NEWS
23:46<somiaj>jab: googled systemd changelog, greped for that option, saw the version it was added
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23:49<jab>somiaj: Got it, thanks!
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23:58<plasma>why does systemd have it's own DNS resolver?
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