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#debian IRC Logs for 2017-07-14

---Logopened Fri Jul 14 00:00:11 2017
00:02-!-cruncher [~cruncher@00020ba0.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
00:02-!-cruncher is "cruncher" on #debian-mentors #debian-offtopic #debian-devel-changes #debian #debian-next
00:09-!-valessio is "Valessio Brito" on #spi #debian-www #stretch #debian-devel-br #debian-l10n-br
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00:17-!-nowhere_man is "Pierre Thierry" on @#concatenative @#emacs #git @#erights #lisp #debian-kde #debian
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03:37<sfiero>hi
03:38<sfiero>привет
03:38<jm_>!ru
03:38<dpkg>Это английскоговорящий канал, пожалуйста, говорите по-английски или посетите #debian-russian (irc.freenode.net) (Russian speakers please go to #debian-russian)
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03:39<sfiero>snk
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04:09<kr1shna>i am verifying file formats supported. i am unable to find some file format samples online. please help https://github.com/kr1shnas/qa/projects/24
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05:18<gheorghe>did anyone manage to install this https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/120/system-monitor/ on debian 9?
05:18<gheorghe>i installed all dependencies but i still get an error within tweak tool / extensions
05:18<gheorghe>sadly i can't find the logs
05:19<gheorghe>nvm it works now
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05:27<kr1shna>i am verifying file formats supported. i am unable to find some file format samples online. please help https://github.com/kr1shnas/qa/projects/24
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06:24<morti>hello
06:24<alphastrom>hi
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06:28<morti>I'm new here,
06:29<morti>I have a question
06:30<alphastrom>me too, just say what you are looking for
06:30<alphastrom>anyone know how to automatically update tor with debian jessie? "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade" shows a prompt where I have to answer the question if I want to keep /etc/tor/torrc and yes I want to keep it but I don't want to be asked so that this can run automatically
06:31<duclicsic>alphastrom: -y
06:31<duclicsic>"Automatic yes to prompts"
06:31<alphastrom>will this overwrite the config file or keep it?
06:31<duclicsic>it will answer yes to all prompts
06:31<duclicsic>depends what the prompt is asking
06:31<morti>What is this channel used for (chat) ?
06:31<morti>thanks
06:32<duclicsic>you can also do --assume-no
06:32<duclicsic>which will do the opposite of course
06:32<duclicsic>morti: not chat, this is a support channel for the current stable version of debian
06:32<alphastrom>ok
06:33<morti>OK thank you very much
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06:38<dtw>alphastrom, duclicsic, "-y" option to apt-get is not the same thing as questions asked during installation. Debconf and dpkg questions are from different programs. I'm not sure what's the answer to the original question. Perhaps "export DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive" helps for debconf interface, or adding "< /dev/null" for apt-get.
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06:39<jm_>dpkg itsels also prompts for config file changes (unless something else is involved, i.e. ucf, so there are yet more options)
06:39<dpkg>jm_: that's too long
06:39<duclicsic>oic
06:39<duclicsic>thx dtw
06:39<jm_>dpkg --force-confnew/confold to answer that one
06:39<dpkg>jm_: I don't know, could you explain it?
06:40<jm_>(can be set in dpkg.cfg too)
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09:20<adhawkins>I've just been notified of package upgrades on Jessie for libwbclient0 and samba-common. If I try to apply them, it saying it's going to *remove* samba...
09:20<adhawkins>https://gist.github.com/adhawkins/fecede0c9abbd261cd57edd7fb915a00
09:20<adhawkins>Anyone offer any advice? It's happening on at least two machines that have Samba installed.
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10:05<itd_>adhawkins: It might help if you follow 'dpkg: bat'.
10:05<itd_>dpkg: bat
10:05<dpkg>In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>.
10:06<pron>i think dpkg is a spy ;(
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10:07<bremner>uh. no. dpkg is an infobot to save volunteers some boring repetitive work
10:08<zeta>dpkg: spy
10:08<dpkg>We're watching you...
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10:11<adhawkins>itd_: Apologiest. https://gist.github.com/adhawkins/a57daf644ac9f1dc804d9a0afbf6942a
10:11<adhawkins>dpkg: localized errors
10:11<dpkg>To provide command output in English instead of your native language, set your locale to an English one (e.g. C) prior to running the command, e.g. "LC_ALL=C apt-get -f install".
10:12<itd_>dpkg: tell adhawkins -about selftell
10:12<itd_>adhawkins: No worries. :)
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10:20<adhawkins>Same from another machine:
10:20<adhawkins>https://gist.github.com/adhawkins/0a16a388bc1bd556a9573231cc6ff019
10:21<woffs>samba upgrade breaking python-talloc, apparently
10:22<woffs>(in jessie)
10:22<adhawkins>woffs: No mention of python-talloc on the first machine though?
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10:23<woffs>but on mine
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10:23<L33tPysco>Hello???
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10:25<adhawkins>woffs: What's the best way to proceed with this? Presumably the package maintainers are aware?
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10:25<woffs>That's why I stepped in here.
10:26<Walex>adhawkins: what's wrong with that?
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10:26<woffs>Probably it will be fixed and there will be a correction
10:26<adhawkins>Walex: What's wrong with what?
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10:28<Walex>adhawkins: removing those packages... If Samba detects a package is unused or is in conflict it has to remove it.
10:28<adhawkins>Walex: But one of the packages to be removed is samba...
10:28<adhawkins>This is just an update of the samba packages due to some security fix.
10:29<Walex>adhawkins: "woffs" suggests that it is a conflict with another package. One way to list conflicts is to look at it with 'aptitude'
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10:30<Walex>adhawkins: try to be sure: aptitude why-not samba-common-bin for example
10:31<adhawkins>Unable to find a reason to remove samba-common-bin
10:31<woffs>It rather seems that libreadline7 is not available in jessie.
10:32<woffs>I want to keep my smbclient :-)
10:32<Walex>adhawkins: also: aptitude '~Csamba-common-bin'
10:32<Walex>adhawkins: also: aptitude '~Dsamba-common-bin'
10:33<woffs>Yeah, the update was linked against libreadline7. Jessie provides libreadline6 only.
10:33<Walex>adhawkins: also: aptitude '~dsamba-common-bin'
10:33<Walex>woffs: that is unfortunate :-)
10:34<adhawkins>Walex: Those commands all return 'Unknown command "~Dsamba-common-bin"'
10:34<Walex>adhawkins: 'aptitude search ...'
10:34<dtw>Write quickly to debian-security about the problem or see if it's already discussed.
10:35<adhawkins>Is that a mailing list?
10:35<dtw>Yes.
10:35<adhawkins>Or am IRC channel
10:36<dtw>Probably irc channel as well.
10:36<adhawkins>dtw: Nothing in the archive at https://lists.debian.org/debian-security/2017/07/threads.html
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10:36<woffs>is this the "official" channel?
10:36<adhawkins>Asking on the IRC channel.
10:36<itd_>#debian-security
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10:44<Walex>adhawkins: actually usually best : "aptitude search '~b' ..." and "apt-cache depends .."
10:44<adhawkins>Walex: There's a rebuild in progress it seems.
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10:47<woffs>aptitude says the reason clearly when upgrading: "Depends: libreadline7 (>= 6.0) which is a virtual package."
10:47<woffs>sometimes aptitude wins
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10:58<woffs>we could backport libreadline7 to jessie to solve this :-)
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11:34<Nennala>yo
11:34<badargo___>say u downloaded a debi file and installed it with dpkg -i file and then u sudo apt-get install -f whatever it does
11:35<badargo___>(btw what sudo apt-get install -f does? )
11:35<badargo___>how o u remove everythiiiiing ?
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11:40<Walex>badargo___: 'dpkg -P ...'
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11:47<Seeder>hi
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11:48<Seeder>is it possible to downgrade from testing to stable?
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11:50<grawity>so I installed xfce + lightdm, and for some reason it's not showing a userlist, just a username/password prompt
11:50<grawity>I even have to enter both when *unlocking* :(
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11:54<grawity>oh, that's in /usr/share/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/01_debian.conf
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11:54<Omochao>is there an equivalent to https://wiki.debian.org/GrubEFIReinstall for BIOS?
11:57<Brigo>Seeder, no, your best bet is reinstall
11:57<Seeder>Brigo: thanks :3
11:57<Brigo>Seeder, np
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12:04<Nennala>Omichao : something like that "apt-get install --reinstall grub-pc grub-common"
12:04<Nennala>Omochao *
12:05<Nennala>Omochao : I found that on the french ubuntu website, I don't know if it's still working or if this have changed
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12:23<adminewb>so, stretch has been stable 9.0 for about a month, and jessie is now oldstable -- I understand there will be some degree of loss of interest in maintaining old releases, but it seems too soon to have samba run into a configuration-mgmt dead end because of a security update (samba-libs 2:4.2.14+dfsg-0+deb8u6 et al, can't make out DSA or the like) -- thoughts? something short of installing 9.0 or uninstalling samba, is there something mere mo
12:24<adminewb>2:4.2.14+dfsg-0+deb8u7 rather, my mistake
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12:39<adminewb>it seems that changelog info on the new 2:4.2.14+dfsg-0+deb8u7 security patch is unavailable also, which is very strange
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12:40<bremner>things might still be propagating; the DSA announcement was just a few hours ago
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12:42<adminewb>ok thanks bremner
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12:45<adminewb>urgency is high for DSA 3909-1 patches, i take it
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12:47<zeta>https://lists.debian.org/debian-security-announce/2017/msg00170.html
12:47<zeta>from the security mailing list
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12:48<adminewb>orpheus' lyre, yes thanks
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12:58<woffs>adhawkins, the samba update is broken and going to be fixed soon
12:58<woffs>i meant adminewb who is gone meanwhile
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13:05<bhe[m]>hello. I have a Dlink wifi dongle . After a lot help from others, I found its firmware <https://wiki.debian.org/rt2800usb > . Now my network manager identified it, but when click it says connecting and after a minute or so it just go to not connected state. Please help .
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13:05<Walex>Seeder: as you are using the "testing" archive you are a very advanced system engineer with a full understanding of Debian and how APT and packaging works, so I can't presume to remind you that is not a downgrade and that replacing packages with older versions can have issues.
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13:06<Walex>bhe[m]: the best solution is to get one that is known to be supported.
13:07<bhe[m]>Walex: Can I get a link to the supported devices list .
13:08<Walex>bhe[m]: the best way is to do a web search for users that report being happy.
13:09<Walex>bhe[m]: there is no reliable "supported devices list" as what are supported is chipsets, or rather some versions.
13:09<blast007>bhe[m]: https://www.thinkpenguin.com/catalog/wireless-networking-gnulinux
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13:09<blast007>of course, we could just try to troubleshoot your issue for now
13:09<Walex>blast007: those are not necessarily supported by the Debian released kernel.
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13:14<blast007>Walex: even Wheezy has firmware for the AR9271
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13:18<blast007>would the output of dmesg show issues with the wifi failing to connect?
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13:21<Praxis>I'm trying to do a 'apt full-upgrade' to stable Jessie and an update to samba-common wants to remove samba, winbind, and a couple of other packages. I didn't see anything with a quick google search. Is this correct or an artifact of updating repositories?
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13:22<Brigo>Praxis, i think is a bug because a quick DSA update
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13:23<Praxis>Thanks, Brigo, I'll just update the other packages than samba-common
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13:24<Brigo>Praxis, np :)
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13:56<bhe[m]>I removed xserver-xorg-input-libinput in order to replace. But xserver-xorg-input-all also got removed. Now no keyboard and no usb mouse :(. ?
13:56<bhe[m]>* replace with synaptics .
14:00<blast007>can you switch to a virtual terminal with Ctrl+Alt+F2? (or similar F key)
14:01<bhe[m]>no blast007
14:01<bhe[m]>Now I am on live system .
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14:03<annadane>for those asking about samba earlier, i just got the email saying there's been a security update
14:04<annadane>adminewb i think but he left
14:04<Seeder>Walex: thanks for responding back
14:04<Seeder>I'm familer with APT
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14:04<Seeder>and learning day by day
14:05<Seeder>but not a full-tech savvy in regarding of Debian. in general
14:05<gheorghe>why don't debian versions have an order, like k l m n o p ?
14:05<gheorghe>debian versions went w j s
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14:06<amacater>Because Debian is not Ubuntu and Toy Story names predate Ubuntu by a few years ...
14:06<amacater>They have an ascending numerical version ...
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14:07<amacater>And, in fact, even Ubuntu is not strictly alphabetical but #debian_is_not_Ubuntu
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14:21<packet>hi
14:21<packet>anybody know about hardware clocks
14:21<annadane>!anybody
14:21<dpkg>Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>.
14:22<annadane>!ask
14:22<annadane>!ask
14:22<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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14:22<packet>ok
14:22<packet>my bad
14:23<packet>I have a question as to troubleshooting hardware clocks
14:23<amacater>packet: OK, can you give moe details?
14:23<packet>i need to make sure its working correctly
14:23<packet>Linux pandora 3.16.0-4-amd64
14:23<amacater>Do you have any symptoms / prroblems
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14:23<packet>no its part of a project
14:23<bhe[m]>> can you switch to a virtual terminal with Ctrl+Alt+F2? (or similar F key)
14:23<bhe[m]>blast007: fixed, from live chrooted to my system and installed the package .
14:24<packet>i was given a server to work on
14:24<packet>and to test a few things
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14:25<FluffyFoxeh>Why is there no ifconfig on stretch?
14:25<amacater>What do you _actually_ want to do?
14:25<amacater>ifconfig deprecated in favour of ip
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14:26<FluffyFoxeh>can ip count bytes in/out?
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14:30<FluffyFoxeh>oh, it can. ip -s link
14:30<FluffyFoxeh>add -h for human-readable
14:31<amacater>Sorry - packet - what do you _actually_ want to do with hw clock?
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14:31<dtw>FluffyFoxeh, statistics are also in /sys/class/net/<interface>/statistics/tx_bytes and rx_bytes
14:31<packet>i dont think i even know tbh
14:31<packet>thanks tho
14:31<FluffyFoxeh>dtw: cool, thanks
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14:31<annadane>well, i mean
14:32<annadane>there's packages you can use to configure hardware clocks, i'm sure
14:32<Blacker47>FluffyFoxeh, you can install ifconfig too, but it may be unaviable in stretch+1 anyway.
14:32<annadane>so you might want to do research on those, read the man pages etc
14:32<bhe[m]>blast007: You asked my dmesg na ( for the Dlink dongle ) here it is http://paste.debian.net/plain/976558
14:32<packet>will do
14:32<packet>ty
14:32<annadane>whatever source of documentation debian has
14:32<FluffyFoxeh>Blacker47: meh. ip is fine
14:32<annadane>sorry to be vague, i don't know much about it
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14:33<poz2k4444>hey guys, I want to install nginx-extras from sid because of the version, but I only want to install that single package from there, I also want to get the gpg key in order to automate it with puppet, can anyone help me with this?
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14:33<annadane>poz2k4444, if you're on stable you shouldn't install individual packages from sid
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14:33<annadane>!frankendebian
14:33<dpkg>When you get random packages from random repositories, mix multiple releases of Debian, or mix Debian and derived distributions, you have a mess. There's no way anyone can support this "distribution of Frankenstein" and #debian certainly doesn't want to even try. See if you can convince ##linux to help.
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14:34<annadane>if you like, you can investigate backports, not sure if it has what you're looking for
14:34<poz2k4444>annadane: oh ok, is it ok if I get it from stretch?
14:34<annadane>poz2k4444, stretch is the current stable release, so yes
14:35<poz2k4444>annadane: i meant testing...
14:35<poz2k4444>annadane: or is it the same ad frankdebian
14:35<poz2k4444>?
14:35<poz2k4444>s/ad/as
14:35<annadane>testing is buster
14:35<annadane>but yes, it's a frankendebian
14:36<annadane>which you *can* do but you have to really know what you're doing
14:36<annadane>so it isn't recommended
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14:36<poz2k4444>annadane: ok fair enough, related topic, how can I get the gpg key from a specific package? cause sometimes I find the keys really easy but sometimes I just don't
14:36<annadane>you can, i suppose, build from source, i'm not too familiar on the details though
14:37<annadane>(regarding your first question, not your most recent one)
14:37<poz2k4444>annadane: I try to avoid building from source when possible
14:37<poz2k4444>but yeah I can also do that
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14:42<gheorghe>so what are you guys using, kde or gnome?
14:43<annadane>!offtopic
14:43<dpkg>#debian is primarily a support channel for Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and take longer discussions and non-support questions to #debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day.
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14:48<bhe[m]>please help me to fix my wifi dongle
14:49<bhe[m]>my dmesg http://paste.debian.net/plain/976558
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14:50<mnuhmnuh>bhe[m]: no clue. post hware details? lspci | grep -i network
14:52<bhe[m]>mnuhmnuh: lsusb http://paste.debian.net/plain/976563
14:53<mnuhmnuh>d-link ought to be handled easily these days, depending on when your model's b'day.
14:54<bhe[m]>mnuhmnuh: sorry ?
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14:55<mnuhmnuh>birthday.
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14:56<mnuhmnuh>try "dmesg --level=err,warn" as root.
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14:56<mnuhmnuh>or sumfin.
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14:57<mnuhmnuh>you can also see messages in journalctl. look for msgs re: dongle.
14:58<mnuhmnuh>dongle, d-link, 2001:3c1d, ...
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15:10<mnuhmnuh>bhe[m]: see https://wikidevi.com/wiki/D-Link_DWA-123_rev_B1 - not sure it's really talking about yours (research), but it mentions backports as potential working driver.
15:12<mnuhmnuh>found via "2001:3c1d d-link" plugged into ixquick.com
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15:12<Nickkk>Hi, I wanna install Apache2 with php5 and 7 on debian stretch, is this easy to do?
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15:13<Nickkk>I've used setups before where tp choose which php version you need you add a line to the .htaccess?
15:13<Nickkk>to*
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15:14<Nickkk>I currently have apache2 and both php's installed but only php7 loaded in to apache2, can I also load php5 and then how would I select which version?
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15:16<mnuhmnuh>bhe[m]: "These generally work 'out of the box' ...": https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2173050
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15:23<Kosieh>hello
15:26<Kosieh>Can I please ask for help, related to preseed? First of all, I've read the wikis and followed them, but I was not able to make debian-netinst partially automatic. My intention is to pre-load network console (with static IP set), but I still get a standard prompt. Is there any guide (updated) for 'beginners' ? I can work with kickstart for RHEL / Fedora, but I am new to preseed, as I'm confused from several guides.
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15:28<mnuhmnuh>Kosieh: https://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Preseed
15:29<Kosieh>that's exactly what I've already read and did not give any clue
15:30<mnuhmnuh>then i'd be digging through journalctl and other logs to find out why things are failing.
15:32<mnuhmnuh>that, and never assume that just because it compiles and runs, is it doing what it's supposed to be correctly. :-)
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15:35<Kosieh>does debian support partial preseed without answering and just executing, what is in preseed.cfg? I have no problems with to manually append (or-pre-append, if it works) another boot param, but at least kickstart for fedora / RHEL works well (for example it starts VNC, then it's good)
15:35<Kosieh>but I'm doing it in 'blind' mode, where I have no display and still want to continue the installation
15:36<Kosieh>at least kickstarts are good for this kind of remote install
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15:43<toad>yay for botched security updates that uninstall production software!
15:43<toad>(samba)
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15:44<toad>if there is any quick solution please let me know, otherwise i'll just have to check back daily until it is fixed, while my users grow increasingly frustrated...
15:44<toad>maybe I should upgrade to sid, perhaps it would be more stable ROFL
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15:44<Nickkk>^ lol
15:45<toad>hmmm, or stretch ...
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15:45<toad>I haven't upgraded the server to stretch yet, it is highly likely that security support is less amateurish for the current stable rather than the old stable
15:45<Nickkk>stretch is ok
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15:45<Nickkk>im considering going back to jessie
15:46<toad>is samba ok on stretch?
15:46<Nickkk>dont use it
15:46<toad>samba is not installable on jessie right now :(
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15:48<Nickkk>toad: add deb https://packages.sury.org/php/ stretch main to your sources and see if its there
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15:49<SecDet>Olá
15:49<mnuhmnuh>toad: all i saw this am was "The following packages will be upgraded:
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15:49<mnuhmnuh>libsmbclient libwbclient0 samba-libs"
15:49<mnuhmnuh>no errors.
15:49<Nickkk>wait, replace stretch with jessie ofc. lol
15:50<toad>mnuhmnuh: on stretch?
15:50<mnuhmnuh>yup.
15:50<toad>hmmm
15:50<SecDet>fuck society
15:50<toad>maybe if I squeeze out of the party on sunday I can go onsite and fix the problem by upgrading to stretch, which is overdue anyway...
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15:51<mnuhmnuh>keep it fambly friendly, pleeze? :-)
15:54<toad>I guess I should reportbug :(
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15:55<toad>hmmm that's interesting, it looks like there isn't an existing bug
15:56<mnuhmnuh>toad: you're running jessie; oldstable. soon (?) to lose all care from devs.
15:56<mnuhmnuh>and you've "upgrade issues." QED.
15:57<toad>https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=868353
15:58<toad>ah I think this is it
15:58<toad>mnuhmnuh: not entirely fair. jessie has long term support until 2020.
16:00<toad>"After almost 24 months of constant development the Debian project is proud to present its new stable version 8 (code name "Jessie"), which will be supported for the next 5 years thanks to the combined work of the Debian Security team and of the Debian Long Term Support team. " (25th of April 2015)
16:00<toad>anyway, there's a bug filed already
16:01<toad>presumably it will be fixed in a day or so
16:01<mnuhmnuh>toad: you're right, and i happily ran stable to death myself for a long time. still, it pays to keep up, if not on the bleeding edge.
16:01<toad>yeah, problem is I don't have remote serial console at the moment, so I've been looking for a time when I can get onsite...
16:02<toad>was going to be next weekend, but I hate parties anyway, so probably be this weekend ...
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16:04<mnuhmnuh>maybe you should party with other people. :-)
16:05<toad>work party on sunday ... my family with the computer in question are 4.5 hours away ... so there's a conflict
16:06<lindi->toad: you should have a livecd that they can boot the system into that grants you remote access
16:06<toad>hmmm
16:06<toad>that's a good idea
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16:06<toad>then i can chroot and hopefully sort out whatever broke remote access
16:06<lindi->toad: then you can use "kvm -hda /dev/sda -m 1024" to boot the normal installation inside virtualization
16:07<lindi->toad: chroot works too but won't let you analyze boot issues, kvm will
16:07<toad>one catch with that is it needs ppp0 to be working... that can be built into a custom livecd though...
16:07<toad>hmmm nice touch
16:07*mnuhmnuh love it when a plan comes together! :-)
16:08<lindi->toad: I'd imagine a decent desktop livecd should support that. is it ppp over ethernet or what?
16:08<toad>well sure but it'd need a lot of prompting to get it working remotely
16:09<lindi->toad: not necessarily. I have a system that connects back to me using USB LTE modem
16:09<lindi->toad: I'm using standard network-manager and modem-manager to do that
16:10<lindi->toad: (I have a backup USB LTE modem connected to a VM so that I can debug things if my primary connection dies)
16:10<toad>yeah I've tried to get that working but the supposedly linux-compatible dongle doesn't work here let alone on the server :(
16:10<toad>another thing on the todo list
16:12<lindi->toad: my setup is just a single file: http://paste.debian.net/976577/
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16:12<lindi->toad: my dongle is huawei E169
16:13<toad>hmmm, i thought mine was something very close to that
16:13<lindi->toad: in addition to that file I have a service that periodically does "nmcli connection up 1660d3fc-530f-47c8-8fa8-f6541de8ae84" and opens a reverse SSH connection to another server
16:13<toad>it's possible the hardware is just faulty, it seemed to have USB issues... I guess I should return it
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16:16<dtw>toad, or install enough packages, perhaps: apt install network-manager-gnome modemmanager usb-modeswitch mobile-broadband-provider-info ppp
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16:17<toad>woot, they fixed it
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16:17<lindi->dtw: modeswitch shouldn't be required nowadays afaik
16:17<dtw>lindi-, my device does.
16:18<lindi->dtw: really? I thought it all moved to kernel space
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16:19<toad>any recommendations for a GUI IRC client that doesn't depend on security-unsupported libraries (i.e. kde/webkit/gnome/etc)?
16:20<dtw>lindi-, the switch from usb storage to usb modem doesn't happen without that package.
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16:20<lindi->dtw: I thought kernel already did it itself nowadays
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16:21<lindi->toad: security unsupported libraries sounds pretty vague :/
16:21<toad>webkit
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16:21<toad>security unsupported yet packaged in official debian -> webkit, some javascript stuff, fairly narrow set of packages
16:22<lindi->toad: I use quassel but I have disabled previews of web pages
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16:22<toad>well I imagine Konversation uses webkit for rendering chat... granted it *shouldn't* allow arbitrary HTML so there would have to be multiple exploits
16:23<toad>when I click on a link it opens in Konqueror, eww ... hopefully can configure that though
16:23<lindi->toad: yep surely you can configure that
16:23<mnuhmnuh>toad: never understood you people. you want a gui to do text stuff, ie. irc? sigh.
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16:23<dtw>GUI irc client: xterm -e irssi
16:23<lindi->toad: quassel lets me use IRC from multiple devices that all connect to the quassel core running on a server
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16:23<mnuhmnuh>dtw: ditto.
16:24<toad>:)
16:24<dtw>Or: emacs -f erc
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16:35<mnuhmnuh>dtw: never trying that again. wanted to kill irssi's server conn. then use freenode instead. tx, but no. emacs is the barely civilized 300 lb gorilla in the room.
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16:44<real007>let me i am in network and are awayt
16:44<real007>let me i am in network and are away
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16:45<Nick1296>My dGPU is disabled because I had to do some troubleshooting, so IGP only. Sadly, I don't own an actual DP monitor to rule out my adapter
16:45<Nick1296>https://www.amazon.com/Anbear-Displayport-DisplayPort-Desktops-Displays/dp/B01AXI8M7Q/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1500064946&sr=8-3&keywords=anbear+displayport+to+hdmi+adapter This is the adapter I have, btw
16:46<Nick1296>(I'm having issues with DP not working on my T420)
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16:58<Nick1296>I think it may be the driver. I tried it in Ubuntu and it still doesn't work.
17:00<jmcnaught>Nick1296: did you look for missing firmwares in the dmesg output?
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17:03<Nick1296>I didn't think to check that. I was just trying to see if it's an issue now for a potential bug report since it needs a lot of work to get it back to 100% functionality that may not be worth doing
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17:20<Nick1296>Anything specific I should be looking for>
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17:22<zs>i havent had any packages upgraded since i installed debian 9. I know packages arent upgraded everyday but not 1 on over a week? seems strange to me
17:23<zs>I had some issues with source keys but got that fixed. sources.list uses deb.debian.org
17:23<zs>just curious if anyone else has noticed this
17:26<lindi->zs: got security.debian.org there as well?
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17:34<blast007>!stretch sources.list
17:34<dpkg>A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for "Stretch" has three lines: "deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ stretch main" "deb http://security.debian.org/ stretch/updates main" "deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ stretch-updates main". Be sure to run «apt update» after editing sources.list. Also see <deb-src> <contrib> <non-free> <stretch/updates> <stretch-updates> <mirrors> and "man sources.list".
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17:41<SecDet>fuck society
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17:43<zs>yeah
17:43<zs>just as outlined at https://wiki.debian.org/SourcesList
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17:48<hubot>Hi!
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18:07<jmcnaught>zs: are you using GNOME? do you have the unattended-upgrades package installed?
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18:08<mnuhmnuh>zs: it's been quiet (stretch/stable), but i've seen many stuff upgraded post stretch-->stable rollover.
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18:09<mnuhmnuh>libsmbclient libwbclient0 samba-libs today.
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18:22<zs>yeah using gnome
18:22<zs>ill check on unattended-upgrades
18:23<zs>unattended-upgrades 0.93.1 installed
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18:23<jmcnaught>zs: so just remove that package. it gets installed as a recommend of one of the gnome packages
18:23<zs>that package upgrades with prompting?
18:24<zs>mnuhmnuh: whats libsmbclient version at on your system?
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18:24<jmcnaught>zs: read that package's description with "apt-cache show unattended-upgrades"
18:25<zs>yeah it says automatically and unattended...
18:25<zs>so yes
18:25<zs>lo
18:25<zs>lol
18:25<jmcnaught>zs: i was surprised to see it installed myself
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18:27<zs>i havent been able to find it but is there a page on debian.org that lists package upgrades by date?
18:27<mnuhmnuh>zs: apt-cache show says "Version: 2:4.5.8+dfsg-2+deb9u1" - Filename: pool/updates/main/s/samba/libsmbclient_4.5.8+dfsg-2+deb9u1_amd64.deb
18:27<zs>thats the version I have too
18:28<mnuhmnuh>stretch/stable.
18:28<zs>didnt have 'unattended-upgrads' on my jessie box. havent heard of that pkg before today. thanks
18:28<jmcnaught>zs: https://www.debian.org/distrib/packages you may also want to look at or subscribe to https://www.debian.org/security/
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18:30<zs>yeah ive looked at both those pages. I suppose ive never noticed that most daily/weekly pkg upgrades are from security repo. makes sense now though
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18:32<jmcnaught>zs: the way Debian stable works is that during testing the version for everything freezes, a bunch of work goes into fixing bugs in those version, and then it gets released as stable. From that point on it's primarily security updates, some bug fixes, and in very rare exceptions package versions are upgraded (for example firefox-esr, chromium)
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18:37<mnuhmnuh>jmcnaught: well would you look at that. /join #debian-security works. :-)
18:40<zs>thanks for pointing me to unattended-upgrades
18:41<zs>mnuhmnuh: did i offend you by starting this discussion in #debian vx #debian-security?
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18:45<mnuhmnuh>zs: i'm not easily offended. relax. i am still trying to wrap my head around irc. i'm surprised (a little) that #debian-security is easily accessible from my seat, is all.
18:46<mnuhmnuh>we're both floundering, and have no need to apologize that i can see. have fun.
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18:48<zs>i see. cheers!
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19:01<agus>hi
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19:01<agus>i need some help, please
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19:02<annadane>!ask
19:02<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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19:02<annadane>agus, ^
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19:04<agus>i have a problem with the xorg server startup. im running armbian on orangepi lite. for default it starts in terminal, i need graphical interface
19:05<mnuhmnuh>agus: methinks you should be asking armbian and orangepi lite for support.
19:07<agus>hm ok! i'll try. Thanks
19:07<mnuhmnuh>apptitude search on either of those on a debian stable box returns nothing.
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21:28<hastenreiter>Hey
21:29<hastenreiter>A ethernet ip just appeared out of the blue. Could someone tell me what it could be?
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21:42<ryouma>appeared. can you be more specific?
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21:42<ryouma>i still have the problem where clicking on the scrollbar takes me to that place, instead of scrolling by one page. i have set "gtk-primary-button-warps-slider = 0" in /home/me/.config/gtk-3.0/settings.ini.
21:43<ryouma>in jessie
21:43<ryouma>(which runs the same firefox-esr version as stretch)
21:44<annadane>ryouma, hastenreiter is currently receiving aid in #next
21:44<mnuhmnuh>ryouma: wierd.
21:44<mnuhmnuh>as in bizarre.
21:45<ryouma>are you saying it should work?
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21:48<joker_>hello!
21:48<ryouma>annadane: tahnks
21:49<joker_>I am new to this so just trying to figure things out lol
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21:49<annadane>hi, joker_. if you have a question just ask
21:51<joker_>thanks I don't really know what is there to be done on irc in the first place but I heard it is very helpful for people how are starting to learn linux and the basics of hacking
21:51<joker_>who*
21:51<annadane>well, #debian is a support channel for problems people are having
21:51<annadane>it's not really for learning linux and hacking
21:52<bremner>or kali or parrot or ...
21:52<annadane>...yeah
21:52<annadane>get that disclaimer in right away
21:53<joker_>lol yeah this was the default chanel when I installed hexchat
21:54<blast007>joker_: what linux distribution are you running?
21:54<joker_>debian 8.something
21:54<ryouma>there is a linux channel, which is a little more freewheeling
21:55<ryouma>and programming if that is what you mean by hacking
21:55<joker_>and how do you join other channels?
21:55<ryouma>/join
21:55<annadane> /join #blah
21:55<blast007>in some cases you might need to join other IRC networks
21:55<joker_>where do I type this though
21:55<blast007>in the chat box
21:56<joker_>cool!
21:56<annadane>it's like discovering how to make fire for the first time
21:56<annadane>!next
21:56<dpkg>Another happy customer leaves the building.
21:57<blast007>joker_: https://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals <--- there's some topics of reading for you
21:57<joker_>what are those things on the right?
21:57<blast007>names?
21:57<joker_>annadane it is exactly like that lol
21:58<joker_>oh so these are people who are part of this channel
21:58<blast007>yeah, there's around 780 users here
21:59<joker_>so what do you guys usually do on irc
22:00<annadane>sorry to do this but...
22:00<annadane>!offtopic
22:00<dpkg>#debian is primarily a support channel for Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and take longer discussions and non-support questions to #debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day.
22:02<joker_>oh I am sorry thanks for getting me started though really appreciate it
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22:34<soledad>hola
22:35<annadane>!es
22:35<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
22:35<annadane>soledad, ^
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22:35<soledad>que
22:42<annadane>soledad, #debian-es
22:43<soledad>si
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