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---Logopened Wed Jul 19 00:00:17 2017
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00:01<dane>this mobo doesnt have ac97 audio as an option, its digital s/pdif but you plug headphones into front jack and/or speakers at green one in the back and it worked under windows
00:01<jmcnaught>dane: could you also make a paste of "lsmod | grep snd" please? i want to know if it's using snd-hda-intel or some different module
00:02<dane>https://paste.debian.net/977139
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00:07<jmcnaught>dane: sometimes the snd-hda-intel and related ALSA modules detect the chipset correctly, but guess the model incorrectly. See https://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Help_To_Debug_Intel_HDA#.27model.27_parameter and the .txt file linked to in that paragraph
00:09<jmcnaught>i don't see your ALC1200 chipset in the HD-Audio-Models.txt file, but if you search around the web you may find some options you can use for your model, which you could put into a file like /etc/modprobe.d/my-alsa-fix.conf, with a line like "options snd-hda-intel model=foobar"
00:09<jmcnaught>(replace foobar with something valid based on your research, and put comments starting with # in the file as well so you understand it later)
00:10<dane>no ALC1200 closest I think is the ALC880 Should I try seeing if there is a catalyst driver for the RS740 (Radeon 2100) maybe thats causing conflict
00:11<jmcnaught>dane: don't go installing drivers from websites
00:11<dane>i mean from amd/ati website
00:12<jmcnaught>dane: no, don't do that
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00:13<jmcnaught>dane: installer scripts from amd/ati/nvidia websites don't take the package system into consideration. so they may install properly at first, then when your system gets updated by apt/dpkg, it breaks
00:13<ach>well dane how old is your Debian?
00:13<jmcnaught>dane: https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian
00:13<ach>no
00:13<ach>i had never that problem
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00:18<dane>im running sparkydebian stable version on this old pc
00:19<dane>okay jmnaught I made the file, does it get invoked automatically upon boot?
00:21<jmcnaught>if you make a conf file setting options for a module in /etc/modprobe.d then those options are used any time the module is loaded
00:21<jmcnaught>!sparky
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00:23<zx>hello
00:23<jmcnaught>oh, the bot isn't here. however sparky linux and other distros based on Debian are not supported here. You will need to continue your troubleshooting in sparky's channel, or try again with real Debian
00:23<ach>idiot
00:23<ach>bonsey
00:23<dane>here is what the jacks look like on my pc http://acer.i.lithium.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/5549i361297DF543A7662?v=1.0 then there are mic and headphone on the front
00:23<zx>guys
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00:23<ach>well dane how old is your Debian?
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00:24<dane>not old enough apparently
00:24<ach>i would try it?
00:25<dane>well, i went looking for best distros on old hardware and sparkydebian caught my eye so I went with it
00:25<ach>well i don't know just use debian.org debian?
00:25<jmcnaught>dane: Debian works well on old hardware
00:25<dane>jmcnaught before I go, do I have to put something in /etc/modprobe.d to call the other my-alsa-fix.conf and what would that line look like
00:26<dane>Arch and Debian have generally felt like over my head
00:26<dane>which they probably are
00:27<ach>it's just computers but for you!
00:27<ach>:<
00:28<jmcnaught>dane: i don't know exactly which options you need to set for your sound card. It's even possible that Debian detects your card properly, and something that was changed in sparky broke it (probably not, but quite possible)
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00:29<dane>i dont think its that, because I tried a few distros and they all had same no sound issue before I settled on sparkydebian, from both livecd or when installed
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00:30<jmcnaught>the point is that the people doing support in #debian aren't aware of all of the changes and customization made by all of the derivative distros, and this is why only Debian is supported here, not distros based on Debian
00:31<dane>okay my mistake
00:31<dane>when I started their chat client, it brought me here
00:31<dane>automagically opens this network and channel
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00:33<jmcnaught>dane: it happens all the time because the downstream distros don't do the considerate thing and patch their IRC clients to connect automatically to their own channels
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00:34<dane>You are right. Just want you to know I was kind of innocent when I came in
00:35<jmcnaught>it's cool, we understand how it happens, but at this point you need to either continue elsewhere or start over with Debian (not a bad option mind you! ;)
00:35<dane>okay, I think I will go with model=6stack-digout Because I have the 6-jack with a SPDIF out (there is no 'Ac97 to fall back on)
00:36<dane>does that make sense or should I just go with model=6stack which is also an option...I guess try one then the other
00:36<dane>thanks for help anyway
00:36<jmcnaught>good luck
00:36<dane>sorry about wrong room
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00:40<ach>hi mots
00:41<mots>Uh, hi!
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00:43<ach>fail tab sorry
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01:18<qirex>Hi
01:19<qirex>I need help
01:19<towo^work>with what?
01:19<qirex>Is this file libcrypto.so.1.0.0 exist in Debian 9 is it possible to obtain?
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01:24<jmcnaught>qirex: debian 9 comes with libssl1.0.2. to get libssl1.0.0 you would need to add repos for jessie (with the caveat that the libssl1.0.0 package from jessie won't receive security updates for as long as the packages from stretch will)
01:24<towo^work>for what you need that? it's from old libssl version
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01:27<qirex>Thanks but im not sure how to do that or is it safe?
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01:28<qirex>I need the file because of an application which require it
01:28<jmcnaught>qirex: there is no way to reconfigure the application, or get a newer version that is compatible with the newer libssl?
01:30<qirex>I think what im using is the last version and it was working on debian 8 but after debian 9 it stopped and there is no new version of the program
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01:31<jmcnaught>qirex: you could check upstream with the developers of the application to see if it can work with debian 9 and libssl1.0.2
01:33<jmcnaught>qirex: also because of the way that apt works (upgrading packages by looking at the package version and always installing newer versions) it is safe(r) to add repos for an _older_ release than the one you are using. On the other hand if you add repos for a _newer_ release you will end up with a partial or botched upgrade to that newer release
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01:48<qirex>I used some program on a web page which generates links
01:48<qirex>It says oldstable so now i can add the main first link to sources?
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01:49<jm_>sounds correct
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01:51<jmcnaught>qirex: the factoid bot seems to be down, but i would make a file /etc/apt/sources.list.d/jessie.conf with contents like: http://paste.debian.net/977142/
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01:55<qirex>the file with d is an empty list
01:55<qirex>so i should just add all this old stuff there?
01:57<jmcnaught>qirex: /etc/apt/sources.list.d should be a directory, not a file. look at "man sources.list" which explains these files
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02:18<k-man>is there some way to make the installer bigger on a avery high resolution screen? I can barely read it its so small
02:19<jmcnaught>k-man: if you start the installer in expert mode it has a stage the lets you load additional installer components, one of those might do what you need
02:20<k-man>jmcnaught, network-console ;)
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03:01<qirex>By any chance you mean jessie.list instead of jessie.conf?
03:02<qirex>Because its working now
03:02<qirex>So thank you so much for the useful information
03:03<qirex>The program is working and everything looks normal
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03:05<edeak>short question
03:05<edeak>how does
03:05<edeak>$ awk 1 file
03:05<edeak>work
03:05<edeak>(it prints the whole file)
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03:08<jmcnaught>qirex: oh i'm sorry, yes i meant .list
03:08<qirex>yes thank you very much great solution
03:10<qirex>bye all and thanks again
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03:18<jm_>edeak: 1 matches all lines, default action is { print }
03:18<edeak>got the second part; why does 1 match all lines?
03:19<edeak>sorry, trying to learn awk the dumb way: by trial and error
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03:21<jm_>think of it as "TRUE" i.e. if (true) { print }
03:21<edeak>got it! thanks
03:21<jm_>I would recommend sed & awk book from o'reilly :)
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03:21<edeak>:p must be a big volume. Trial and error won't make me grok awk, but it's fun
03:22<jm_>also gawk-doc has good stuff
03:23<edeak>oh yeah that one I did read
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04:06<Huita>Sooo... cinnamon was acting naughty. Suddenly it crashed, asked if he should restart but couldn't, and after reboot things went bad - nothing after dell logo. Still, unplugging and pluggin in back worked - debian got to the logging in step. But if you log via gui into same user, everything flickers and crashes, and another unplugging is needed
04:07<Huita>if you log into some other user, it's fine
04:07<Huita>so i guess something is broken for specific user
04:07<Huita>but what?
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04:09<jm_>some config files probably
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04:17<Huita>yeah but any hints on where to dig?
04:17<Huita>i don't want to just create a new user
04:17<Huita>seems like an easy and bad way out
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04:29<jm_>maybe look in session log for X login, ~/.xsession-errors ~/.local/share/whatever
04:29<jm_>I think you said you are using lightdm so «find ~ | grep lightdm» I guess
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05:13<soad>Is there some reason that bootx64.efi on the debian live distribution is hidden inside another disk image inside the disk image?
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05:38<petn-randall>soad: I'm not sure how that would even boot. Are you looking at the .iso you downloaded, or at an USB stick you prepared with unetbootin or similar?
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05:46<jm_>maybe hybrid boot stuff?
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05:58<guardian>hello, what do you recommend nowadays between apt, apt-get and aptitude?
05:58<guardian>it seems to be changing from one uprade guide to another (went recently through wheezy --> jessie --> stretch)
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06:02<jm_>guardian: if you don't have other ideas it's best to use what's recommended in release notes
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06:05<guardian>k
06:05<guardian>thanks
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06:07<soad>petn-randall: The .iso I downloaded. And it DIDN'T boot if I copied the contents of the .iso to a USB stick, which had me stumped for a while.
06:08<grawity>isohybrid images are weird
06:08<grawity>I wouldn't be surprised if an UEFI system, following the MBR, actually saw that nested disk image as if it were a direct partition/filesystem
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06:09<soad>It worked if I wrote the image to the drive whole, with dd or somesuch, so presumably there's something very clever going on.
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06:10<soad>But it seems bizarre that it's done that way in the first place.
06:10<jm_>it's not if you read why
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07:36<k-man>what are the debian-mac-9.0.0... etc.iso installer images? (ie, what is the mac bit?)
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07:39<Drzacek>k-man, I'm guessing its a debian image for mac PCs https://wiki.debian.org/MacMiniIntel
07:40<petn-randall>k-man: IIRC Macs have slightly different boot code.
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07:41<k-man>thanks
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07:44<k-man>i'm experimenting with a btrfs install. do you like to put everything in one large partition? or break it up into multiple partions?
07:45<k-man>what about doing it with subvolumes?
07:46<petn-randall>k-man: Most people have a system and a home partition. It helps when you have to reinstall, and also ensures that a /home running full doesn't break the system.
07:47<k-man>thanks
07:49<k-man>but what about putting the various things on subvolumes?
07:49<k-man>ever tried that?
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07:49<k-man>so for instance, put /home on a subvolume, and use the snapshot diff features for incremental backup
07:50<petn-randall>k-man: I've never use BTRFS productively, so I can't say.
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07:53<Brigo>k-man, i would say that is the point in subvolumes.
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07:57<Walex>k-man: subvolumes are good and Btrfs works well, except for the 'raid' multidevices and quotas.
07:58<Walex>k-man: I usually use separate partition for system and '/home' anyhow though.
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08:19<blu_>hi guys. I'm having trouble with my NFS setup on a busy website (one NFS server and four NFS clients mounting /var/www). It shows "rpc-srv/tcp: nfsd: got error -32 when sending 120 bytes - shutting down socket" in dmesg, the clients do get very slow access to /var/www/ and the clients wait load goes up to around 100-300.
08:20<blu_>I'm getting this error "out of nothing" around once every one or two days. I'm unable to determine a cause so far.
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08:31<debiandualboot>hullo. during install of debian it asks for wifi drivers, non -free firmware stuff. i dont have a suitable usb but i've got a partition with the .deb file on it, is there a way to make it load that file?
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08:32<itd>blu_: If I am not mistaken then the error code -31 would imply "EMLINK 31 Too many links".
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08:32<blu_>itd ah! where can I find that error code?
08:33<itd>blu_: Oops, I can not read. I was looking at the -32 (which would be "EPIPE 32 Broken pipe").
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08:35<blu_>itd, where can I find that list of error codes?
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08:38<itd>blu_: e.g. here: http://www.virtsync.com/c-error-codes-include-errno
08:39<blu_>itd, ty
08:39<itd>blu_: Or 'errno' in 'moreutils'.
08:40<blu_>itd, I see. So broken pipe. I cant make a lot from that info I'm afraid :/
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09:00<debiandualboot>in mount options, "defaults" comprises what?
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09:00<debiandualboot>ie. if i wanted defaults,noatime - how would i choose that
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09:01<rbnielsen>It didn't take long for me to b0rk something i Debian, today. ;) On fresh install of Jessie (and among others) it automatically mounts a usb to /media/[username]/. During an accidental chmod, on said folder, I could no longer mount a device to the folder, is ls -l, showing nothing but questionmarks. Tried rm -r /media/[username], would allow Debian to recreate the folder, to no avail. (/media/ was not deleted), I am thinking
09:01<rbnielsen> a dpkg-reconfigure would fix it, but I can't seem to identify the package. Any ideas to what the package is named? Or perhaps where to determine it? Otherwise I'm thinking of creating the directory again, but what are the default permissions/ownership?
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09:02<itd>debiandualboot: 'man mount': Use the default options: rw, suid, dev, exec, auto, nouser, and async.
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09:05<petn-randall>debiandualboot: Simplest way is to use the firmware installer in the first place. With the usual installer you have to provide the firmware as a tar.gz, but you should look up the details in the release notes.
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09:06<debiandualboot>default options would be right for a boot partition yes?
09:07<debiandualboot>petn-randall: iw as able to get the firmware "detected", so it loaded now
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09:07<petn-randall>debiandualboot: default options are always good unless you know what you're doing and why.
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09:08<debiandualboot>it's just defaults is selected, but if i tick a box, defaults disappears and is replaced with what i chose -maybe it INCLUDES what i chose? or am i being silly
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09:09<debiandualboot>my other distro has defaults,noatime for the boot partition - i was just copying that setting but it looks different on debian install
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09:40<sicelo>i have a kernel question - where can i get older debian kernels and their configs? using 3.16.0-4, my Thinkpad X40 hibernates fine, but with 4.x does not. so i would like to git bisect it- no idea yet how to, but i can learn :)
09:43<Nemoder>sicelo: it should be in /boot/
09:43<Nemoder>if you still have that kernel installed
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09:44<e86>Are there non-git bisecting tools, or are you doing it manually?
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09:45<sicelo>the kernel*is*i in /boot yes, but i need something higher than 3.16 to compare with
09:46<sicelo>e86 - i dont really know anything about that yet, or how the whole bisect thing works my basic need is to figure out what is the difference is between 4.x and 3.16 that causes my hibernation problem
09:46<petn-randall>sicelo: bisecting would involve downloading the sources, build a known good kernel, building a known bad kernel, and then halving the distance until you find the right commit.
09:47<sicelo>my idea was to get, say 3.17, see if hibernation breaks, etc - until i get consecutive versions where the breakage happened
09:47<petn-randall>,kernels
09:47<judd>Available kernel versions are: experimental: 4.11.0-trunk-686 (4.11.3-1~exp1); sid: 4.11.0-2-686 (4.11.11-1); buster: 4.11.0-1-686 (4.11.6-1); stretch: 4.9.0-3-686 (4.9.30-2+deb9u2); jessie-backports: 4.9.0-0.bpo.3-686 (4.9.30-2+deb9u2~bpo8+1); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.43-2+deb8u2); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.39-1+deb8u1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.89-2)
09:47<petn-randall>sicelo: Those kernels ^^^ are available in Debian, all other you need to compile yourself.
09:47<grove>On backports.debian.org, both the list of browsable directories and the select button for distribution lists "jessie-backports" twice, but one is actually stretch-backports, where do I report that? Or is it already known?
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09:48<petn-randall>sicelo: 3.16 with the *same* userspace works fine? Or did you just upgrade from jessie to stretch and it stopped working?
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09:50<sicelo>thanks petn-randall - 3.16 works with the same userspace yes
09:51<sicelo>the 'distance' between 3.16-4.9 is quite big .. but will go that way then
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09:51<Nemoder>so you could pull incremental kernel sources from kernel.org and copy the working config to the new versions and see where it stops working
09:52<petn-randall>sicelo: Then you can use git bisect to narrow it down. I'd hop between the stable kernels first before searching for the commit between releases.
09:52<towo^work>the problem is not the config
09:52<petn-randall>towo^work: Well, /likely/ not the config.
09:53<Nemoder>right, but you want to be sure it's a similar config so your system still works :)
09:53<sicelo>my kernel-fu is zero for now, but will try go step-by-step
09:54<sicelo>thanks for the ideas
09:54<Nemoder>https://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/
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09:55<Nemoder>sicelo: does the system fail to recover from hibernate entirely or just in a bad state?
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09:56<sicelo>fails completely. immediately after restoring the swap image, it reboots
09:57<Nemoder>my guess is video driver but maybe logs could help narrow it down
09:57<petn-randall>sicelo: 'git clone' the stable tree from Linus, then 'git checkout' the version in between (4.3?), then compile with 'make -j<number of CPUs you have> deb-pkg'. Install package, test it, then 'git bisect good/bad' the commit, rinse, repeat.
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09:57<petn-randall>sicelo: Compiling will probably take the most time.
09:58<sicelo>Nemoder: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=853184 (when stretch was still sid)
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09:58<judd>Bug http://bugs.debian.org/853184 in src:linux (open): «linux-image-4.9.0-1-686: Resume from hibernation fails on 4.x kernel; works on 3.16»; severity: important; opened: 2017-01-30; last modified: 2017-01-30.
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09:59<sicelo>petn-randall: and compiling on Thinkpad X40 - hope it wont take a week
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10:00<petn-randall>sicelo: stretch was never sid, sid is permanently unstable. stretch was at some point in the past 'testing', though.
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10:02<Nemoder>sicelo: you might try the latest stable kernel first to see if it's been fixed already
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10:02<sicelo>it's not .. i'm on 4.11.0-1-686 and the same thing happens
10:03<Nemoder>ah
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10:04<Nemoder>well the drm:intel errors in your log do seem to indicate a video problem, perhaps sifting through changelogs to see when major changes happened might narrow down where to start
10:04<sicelo>kernel changelogs you mean?
10:05<Nemoder>yes
10:05<sicelo>will follow that line of reasoning. thanks :)
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10:09<sicelo>i had come to ignore those errors because i did not experience any other issues with them - everything else seems fine. it never occured to link it with the kernle/hibernation issue
10:10<sicelo>but makes perfect sense now
10:12<debiandualboot>a video problem would cause a reboot?
10:13<heresjohnny>Has anyone seen systems sync with an NTP server thats on a blacklist?
10:13<heresjohnny>NTP server is part of a pool.
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10:18<petn-randall>heresjohnny: "a blacklist". What blacklist? How are you sourcing it?
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10:22<heresjohnny>Finding the ip in syslog, have a job that runs that compares blacklisted ips to ips that show up in syslog
10:24<petn-randall>heresjohnny: What does the job do?
10:24<heresjohnny>This is the ip/ntp server http://www.pool.ntp.org/scores/162.255.119.249 <-- shows up listed in SPAM cannibal
10:24<petn-randall>I don't quite understand your setup.
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10:26<heresjohnny>We have debian servers using Debian NTP pool
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10:26<petn-randall>heresjohnny: From your link it's still giving back correct time.
10:27<heresjohnny>I found through log analysis that the ip that the NTP is syncing to is a blacklisted ip
10:27<heresjohnny>Im sure its a false positive. But is there any way besides modifying our NTP config to alert this user or remove the ip from the pool ?
10:27<petn-randall>heresjohnny: I don't think spamming and syncing time strongly correlate. The NTP pool has measures to cycle out servers when they're reporting wrong time.
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10:28<duclicsic>i'm pretty sure you could find any and all IPs in a blacklist if you looked hard enough
10:29<duclicsic>it's ultimately meaningless
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10:29<duclicsic>if you look at the reason it's listed on spamcannibal it's just "generic/anonymous/un-named IP"
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10:30<duclicsic>some of these lists will add IPs purely for lack of certain information in whois or ptr records
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10:36<heresjohnny>ok, thanks for your help/insight everyone
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10:49<grove>Hi. I was trying to set up LXC following https://wiki.debian.org/LXC, but when I get to creating a guest, I get some errors: http://paste.debian.net/977209/ , can anybody tell m what I forgot/did wrong
10:50<grove>(I'm on Jessie, but installed lxc and all the other packages mention on the wiki from jessie-backports)
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10:58<lykwydchykyn>hello. Anyone here have experience getting pure-ftpd to work with a postgresql auth backend?
11:00<itd>lykwydchykyn: Just ask your real question, please.
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11:04<lykwydchykyn>ok. I've spent two days trying to make it work. I have verified that pure-ftpd is successfully making the password query by tracing the pg server. I've tried multiple encryption settings and cleartext. No matter what I've tried, authentication fails. I don't know what else to check. I've read the available documentation, and the 3-4 most common problems I could find on the internet. Looking for someone with experience to see if
11:04<lykwydchykyn>there's some "gotcha" that I've missed.
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12:07<romaneconti>hey guys, i like debian but it cant detect my geforce and has a realtek driver firmware issue
12:07<romaneconti>ubuntu gets my geforce but it reports a new error every 5 minutes
12:08<romaneconti>what should i do?
12:08<towo`>there is no "my geforce"
12:08<towo`>and firmware for realtelk is in non-free
12:08<towo`>*realtek
12:08<romaneconti>yes my geforce 920M
12:08<romaneconti>ubuntu gets it, debian doesnt
12:08<towo`>that's optimus crap
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12:09<towo`>if not, nvidia-driver is also in non-free
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12:09<romaneconti>i think its optimus stuff tho i dont know what it is
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12:10<itd>dpkg: optimus
12:10<dpkg>The Bumblebee project aims to provide support for the Nvidia Optimus GPU switching technology on Linux systems. GeForce 400M (4xxM) and later mobile GPU series are Optimus-enabled; if «lspci -nn | grep '\''[030[02]\]'» returns two lines, the laptop likely uses Optimus. Packaged for Debian <jessie> and <wheezy-backports>. http://wiki.debian.org/Bumblebee http://bumblebee-project.org/ #bumblebee on irc.freenode.net.
12:10<towo`>for optimus you need bumblebee, since debian has no nvidia-prome packaged
12:10<towo`>*nvidia-prime
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12:11<romaneconti>tho debian doesnt get my video card it still works well
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12:12<romaneconti>it get me mad when i have to install sudo command, info command, locate command, etc but no errors... unless i want to install new stuff.. then its a mess
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12:13<romaneconti>ubuntu has all the stuff, gets my geforce, and even my keyboard on first try :P but it bugs a lot
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12:13<romaneconti>awwww
12:13<towo`>then use ubuntu
12:13<towo`>if you can't handle debian
12:13<romaneconti>i can handle debian fine, but i dont like having nouveau and firmware and ge force issues
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12:14<towo`>you do not use nouveau
12:14<towo`>you use intel, since that is the default card
12:14<romaneconti>yes im on nouveau and i get nouveau erros on every boot
12:14<towo`>then get rid of that optimus crap
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12:15<romaneconti>if i do that nouveau errors will stop?
12:15<towo`>if you by other hardware? sure
12:16<romaneconti>but this is a notebook :S
12:16<towo`>that is crystal clear, since optimus is a technology only for notebooks
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12:17<romaneconti>new hardware is not on the table
12:17<romaneconti>unless its memory sticks
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12:19<romaneconti>even to install linux was a mess, had to upgrade bios and disable security boot. and when i try to install slackware or slackware based distro they cant even boot
12:19<romaneconti>legacy or uefi nothing works
12:19<romaneconti>ew
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12:26<petn-randall>romaneconti: That secure boot "doesn't work" is not Debian's fault. Microsoft makes up the rules who's boot loader gets signed and who's doesn't. Nice, innit?
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12:27<romaneconti>im glad to dump windows and join the good guys
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12:27<romaneconti>but its tough
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12:28<romaneconti>let me tell u about my experience yesterday petn-randall
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12:28<romaneconti>first i installed debian and after a while messing with it, i got wine and installed a game with no issues
12:28<romaneconti>game was flickering in a billion colors so i installed a new version of wine
12:29<romaneconti>still flickering in a billion colors, i installed nvidia packages, got a black screen, moved on to ubuntu
12:29<romaneconti>got play on linux, installed game with no issues, again flickering in a billion colors
12:29<romaneconti>back to debian
12:29<romaneconti>tried to install game, got xml corrupt configuration error
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12:30<romaneconti>i just cant win
12:30<petn-randall>romaneconti: Sounds like you're doing a lot of things, but not addressing the issues you have.
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12:31<romaneconti>well, it could be a issue with wine version, wasnt, could be a issue with video driver, seems its not, and now i cant even install
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12:32<petn-randall>!bat
12:32<dpkg>In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>.
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12:34<romaneconti>apt problems? currently its bugging when i run wine. but support in #winehq is dead
12:35<romaneconti>wine intallationfile.exe more specifically
12:35<romaneconti>so i dont even get to the billion flickering colors screen anymore
12:35<towo`>you install linux and then want to use windows application?
12:35<towo`>that makes no sense
12:36<romaneconti>yes, how can then even have a repository for a software that does that and is used by hundreds of thousands of users?!?!
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12:37<lykwydchykyn>romaneconti I would not recommend anyone working with wine until they are experienced and comforatable with linux.
12:37<towo`>especialy with optimus crap
12:38<petn-randall>romaneconti: You said "and now i cant even install". I assumed you're talking about package management.
12:38<towo`>and intel igp is not powerfull enaugh for wine
12:38<romaneconti>yes, its just i needed a fix cuz i was reading too much linux stuff :S
12:38<romaneconti>and bash stuff
12:38<romaneconti>i was feeling taxed
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12:39<romaneconti>but maybe u guys are right
12:39<romaneconti>i should first learn everything
12:39<romaneconti>and then mess with wine and video stuff
12:39<petn-randall>Yeah, one step at a time, or it'll get quite frustrating.
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12:41<romaneconti>i also tried kali linux as there are many books writen about it... so many but that distro doesnt even have sound, cant support touch to click on my touchpad without messing with xorg and some synclient commandds and conf files arhhhh
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12:42<lykwydchykyn>Yeah don't use kali
12:42<lykwydchykyn>It's a tool for people doing pentesting, not a distro for end-users.
12:42<romaneconti>i wanted to learn about it
12:42<romaneconti>and read the books on pentesting with kali
12:42<lykwydchykyn>Understood, but then you are learning two things: linux and pentesting
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12:43<lykwydchykyn>Two very big areas with a steep learning curve
12:44<petn-randall>romaneconti: Learn the basics first, then programming, then pentesting.
12:44<petn-randall>romaneconti: If you skip the first two you're going to have a hard time.
12:44<romaneconti>yes, i thougt, if kali is a linux with pentesting software i can use it to learn linux first and pentesting later
12:45<romaneconti>but it beat the shit of me
12:45<lykwydchykyn>many people seem to walk the same road
12:45<petn-randall>romaneconti: Kali is a fork of Debian with crappy end user support.
12:47<romaneconti>yes, i saw that first hand... no audio on system settings was a first for me
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12:47<towo`>pentesting does not need audio or multimedia
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12:48<petn-randall>.. nor a good HW support. It usually just runs in a VM.
12:48<petn-randall>And Kali is now a rolling release, meaning it's perpertually pull stuff from testing/unstable from Debian.
12:48<petn-randall>*pulling
12:50<gheorghe>did anyone here manage to get 3d support on linux working?
12:50<blast007>gheorghe: a lot of people
12:50<towo`>sure, many
12:50<gheorghe>k thanks
12:51<blast007>gheorghe: do you have a specific question?
12:51<gheorghe>yes, if anyone here managed to get 3d support working on linux. that was my question. and you answered
12:51<lykwydchykyn>I can't remember the last time 3d hasn't worked on a linux box of mine
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12:52<lykwydchykyn>2008 maybe?
12:52<zeta>gheorghe: are we talking about 3d acceleration or stereoscopic 3d here
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12:53<gheorghe>i have no ideea. someone today told me that he 3d support for linux was non existing and i said i will ask on irc...
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12:54<lykwydchykyn>was this individual a time traveler from the 20th century by any chance?
12:56<romaneconti>is there much difference in performance between lxde and gnome when u have 8 gb ram?
12:56<romaneconti>i heard lxde is the fastest
12:57<annadane>8 gb of ram should be enough for any de out there but yes, lxde is the lightest
12:58<romaneconti>lxde is faster then xfce and mate too?
12:58<annadane>well, i don't have the hard numbers in front of me
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12:59<lykwydchykyn>romaneconti In my experience, yes
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13:00<romaneconti>ii will go install it then
13:00<romaneconti>thank u guys
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13:05<debiandualboot>hi^
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13:06<debiandualboot>i have a second monitor plugged in, just booted into debian.. i can barely see the top panel (i went with gnome desktop) (my laptop screen is 99% busted) how could i switch to the second monitor only?
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13:25<gheorghe>debiandualboot right click on the desktop and got o display settings
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13:25<debiandualboot>right click wasnt doing anything in the second monitor, i think because i had to login first but i couldnt make out the login dialog
13:25<gheorghe>right click on the 1st monitor and go to display settings
13:26<gheorghe>the display settings show all monitors
13:26<gheorghe>wait, your 1st monitor is damaged?
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13:29<dtw>Or using command line: xrandr --output FOO --auto --output BAR --off
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13:50<drzacek>Hello there
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13:55<sazzletazzle>hi, does anyone here use selinux on debian?
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13:55<sazzletazzle>(and perhaps docker?)
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13:55<annadane>!anyone
13:55<dpkg>Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>.
13:55<cheapie>!popcon
13:55<dpkg>hmm... popcon is the Debian Popularity contest, the basis for what packages appear on the first few CDs/DVDs etc (by rank). Install the popularity-contest package to participate. See the results at http://popcon.debian.org/ -- See the FAQ at http://popcon.debian.org/FAQ . Statistics are also available via IRC, /msg judd popcon $package
13:56<sazzletazzle>hm...i was just wondering how to create a policy to allow docker to run while using selinux on debian?
13:57<sazzletazzle>would i just use auditd with the logs and create a policy and enforce it?
13:57<sazzletazzle>i see that there is a github project called "bane" which helps but i don't know if it works well
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14:07<gheorghe>is there any way to get involved with debian? and help the distro?
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14:11<bremner>sure. there's even a package called how-can-i-help
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14:14<annadane>https://www.debian.org/intro/help
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14:17<notafile>uh so sorry for asking this tech-support kind of thing here, but I couldn't install some package because udev complained about something, and now it only boots to recovery mode and refuses to bring up any networking or anything
14:17<notafile>and I'm really unsure what to do. Guess this is why I should have bootable backups heh
14:17<annadane>this is a support channel. tech-support questions are welcomed
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14:18<notafile>it seems to throw a bunch of errors about certain directories in /var not existing
14:20<notafile>basically, any unit in existence somehow failed
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14:23<notafile>systemd-udevd.service: main process exited, code=killed, status=31/SYS
14:24<notafile>first error in the journal
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14:26<notafile>kernel: PM: Image not found (code -22) is another thing it says, but I doubt its significant
14:30<notafile>basically it seems to timeout bringing up my drives
14:32<notafile>and the logs for udev don't say anything more helpful than "failed to start udevd" either
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14:35<notafile>so uh yeah I'm not sure where to go from here, would be great if anyone has some ideas
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14:35<annadane>i'm afraid i don't know... i'm sure someone has some ideas
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14:35<Nennala>notafile : what is your problem ?
14:36<annadane>i'll just copy paste the irc log
14:36<Nennala>thanks annadane
14:36<annadane>Nennala, https://paste.debian.net/977236/
14:37<notafile>my problem is basicall that everything is blowing up and I have like 15 failed services, most notably udev
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14:38<Nennala>Do you have some old kernels installed to try to boot with them ?
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14:40<notafile> /boot is empty
14:40<jmcnaught>notafile: what happened right before this?
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14:42<Nennala>weird that /boot is empty it have to at least contain your main kernel image
14:42<notafile>I rebooted because I tried to install something, but udev failed to --configure. I thought it might have just been an intermittent hardware thing
14:42<notafile>it appears nothing but / is mounted
14:43<notafile>mount -a worked fine though
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14:43<jmcnaught>notafile: what was "something"?
14:43<Nennala>Your network problem when you're in the recovery mode is solved ?
14:43<notafile> /boot is still empty though, but now I have my home dir etc again
14:44<notafile>ifup tells me no interface except lo exists
14:44<notafile>I presume because udev is ded
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14:45<Nennala>You can try install a new kernel, you can find somes packages on debian package website, just to see if you can boot without recovery mode
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14:46<Nennala>You wil need the all, the common, the header-all header-common-rt header-rt
14:46<notafile>well, I don't have a choice, It puts me into recovery mode. Also I aparently can't install packages since everything is complaining about /var not being there
14:47<Nennala>That's sound like you don't have any regular kernel
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14:47<notafile>also also I'm not positive USB will work without udev
14:47<Nennala>I wasn't know that udev can make such damages like these
14:47<annadane>you didn't answer jmcnaught's question... what was the something you installed?
14:48<notafile>uh it complained for everything
14:48<notafile>even apt update
14:48<jmcnaught>"I installed /boot deleter, and now I can't boot!?!?"
14:48<notafile>no, the installation failed, early on, it didn't actually install anything
14:49<Nennala>check what you have in /usr/bin
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14:49<annadane>yeah but what did you actually try to install
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14:49<notafile>4678 binaries in /usr/bin
14:50<notafile>I don't remember what I installed. Most recent thing I tried to install was ldc
14:50<jmcnaught>it's likely that you still have a /boot partition but it is not mounted
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14:51<Nennala>You said that apt-get doesn't work, can you see the binary of apt-get ? What's the message about when it's doesn't work ?
14:52<notafile>currently the message apt gives me boils down to "I don't have network and half of /var is missing"
14:52<notafile>"The repository x does no longer have a release file" etc
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14:53<notafile>apt list works fine though
14:53<Xylon>Guys I see this in the history on my server: exec env ENV='' HISTFILE=/dev/null PROMPT_COMMAND='' PS1=\#\$\ PS2='' PS3='' /bin/sh
14:53<Nennala>For the network : service network-manager start && nmcli
14:54<Xylon>had my server been compromised?
14:54<Nennala>in root of course
14:55<notafile>Nennala: aparently what happens then is it hangs forever for no good reason
14:55<notafile>nothing happens. I can ^C it though
14:55<jmcnaught>i don't see why NetworkManager would work if lower level stuff doesn't
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14:56<Nennala>yeah true, this will work only of you have start x
14:56<notafile>yes, my thoughts too. Since Udev does not work, I doubt anything hardware-related will
14:56<notafile>whelp complete system freeze
14:57<jmcnaught>,ldc
14:57<jmcnaught>,v ldc
14:57<judd>Package: ldc on amd64 -- jessie: 1:0.14.0.dfsg-1; buster: 1:1.2.0-1; sid: 1:1.2.0-1
14:57<jmcnaught>notafile: did you mix buster/testing repos into stable to install ldc?
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14:58<notafile>I didn't do nothing
14:58<notafile>and I doubt LDC is related
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14:58<notafile>since many other apt operations, like upgrade failed even before that
14:58<Nennala>what is ldc ?
14:58<jmcnaught>the reason i'm asking is because ldc is not available for stretch, and you're in the stretch support channel
14:59<annadane>"LDC is a compiler for the D programming Language"
14:59<notafile>jmcnaught: oh, I'm not actually running stretch
14:59<jmcnaught>notafile: please use #debian-next for testing/unstable support
15:00<notafile>okay, will do
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15:11<badargo>lxde doesnt come with tap to click support :S
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15:27<sazzletazzle>Xylon: i would tread with that in mind
15:28<sazzletazzle>if you don't remember doing it, it looks fishy!
15:28<Xylon>I've shut down the server and will build a new one using backups from before that command was run
15:28<sazzletazzle>hold up
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15:29<sazzletazzle>i just googled it and it seems like a check for emacs
15:29<sazzletazzle>are you sure you didn't do it?
15:29<sazzletazzle>copy pasted stuff in?
15:29<Xylon>I definately didn't do it
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15:29<sazzletazzle>okay
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15:30<Xylon>oh hang on
15:30<Xylon>emacs tramp
15:30<Xylon>it's a thing for reading files on a remote server
15:30<Xylon>and I wass messing with that the other day
15:30<itd>Xylon: That might have caused it.
15:30<itd>Xylon: Try again and monitor your log.
15:30<sazzletazzle>hehe good to know!
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15:31<sazzletazzle>also, check auth logs next time
15:31<itd>Xylon: https://emacs.stackexchange.com/a/20301
15:31<Xylon>ha, lucky you guys helped me with this, I was really going to rebuild whole server
15:32<sazzletazzle>:D
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15:43<majorana>Hi everyone! I'd like to know why "fingerprint-gui" yet is no part of the debian archive?
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15:44<lindi->majorana: I guess since nobody has packaged it?
15:45<towo`>because fprintd is enough?
15:46<majorana>lindi: The question why no one has packaged this very useful program. Maby someone here knows more
15:46<majorana>towo: It's always good to have alternatives :-)
15:47<towo`>i don't see the need for a gui
15:47<zeta>majorana: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=666990 it was requested and there was no interest
15:47<judd>Bug http://bugs.debian.org/666990 in wnpp (open): «RFP: fingerprint-gui -- Use fingerprint readeers to login.»; severity: wishlist; opened: 2012-04-03; last modified: 2013-05-27.
15:47<lindi->majorana: I guess lack of time?
15:48<towo`>fprintd works as expected, even without the existence of fingerprint-gui
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15:48<annadane>i mean philosophically a nice GUI would help out a number of people
15:49<zeta>i think a number of DEs have fingerprint management built into their user account configuration
15:49<majorana>zeta: thanks! However this report is already 5 years old
15:50<zeta>such as gnome. i think. haven't tried it there myself.
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16:00<gheorghe>guys, i created a kali VM (deb testing + gnome3) on my debian 9 desktop, using KVM (virt-manager)> everything is great, except the mouse within the vm. it is jumping everywhere. any ideea why?
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16:02<annadane>!kali
16:02<dpkg>Kali Linux (http://www.kali.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on chat.freenode.net or http://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian>, and read http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html
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16:03<jmcnaught>gheorghe: are you using SPICE, and the guest's video adapter is set to QXL?
16:03<gheorghe>the problem is not with kali, the problem is with virt-manager
16:03<gheorghe>jmcnaught one sec, i am checking now
16:03<gheorghe>jmcnaught yes and yes
16:03<annadane>oh, i suppose that's true. sorry
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16:05<itd>gheorghe: Can you reproduce the problem with a debian stretch vm?
16:06<gheorghe>it will take half an hour to prove a point
16:07<jmcnaught>Debian and Windows guests usint virt-manager with SPICE work seamlessly for me, except for fullscreen applications in Windows. I actually have a second mouse on my desk for that.
16:07<gheorghe>did you experience any mouse issues, like the mouse not being smooth?
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16:08<gheorghe>i have such a feeling this is related to the fact i have a gaming mouse
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16:14<soad>What does the "components" boot parameter do? It's on by default.
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16:15<jmcnaught>gheorghe: the mouse was way too sensitive in windows games, but for everything else it worked fine
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17:35<notafile>Is there an relatively new guide for installing with debootstrap?
17:35<pikoro>...
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17:36<annadane>notafile, https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/apds03.html ?
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17:38<notafile>annadane: that still uses ftp.us.debian.org etc. instead of the mirror redirector
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17:38<jmcnaught>you don't have to copy verbatim, you could change ftp.us.debian.org for something else…
17:38<annadane>https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/apds03.html.en is the one for amd64
17:39<notafile>jmcnaught: I realize that, but it's just an indication of being old/not actively maintained so I wondered if there was
17:39<notafile>e.g. the wiki uses deb.debian.org
17:39<annadane>it's for debian 9
17:39<annadane>so it's fairly recent
17:39<jmcnaught>notafile: if you are reinstalling i would consider installing and using stable/stretch for a bit since it's not going to that different from buster for a little while, and it's going to be less work to maintain
17:40<jmcnaught>also, using the netinst image and debian-installer is not an option?
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17:41<notafile>jmcnaught: whelp, already started the debootstrp. The reason I'm using debootstrap is only because I am already booted into grml and would have to download the netinst...
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17:42<annadane>although it *is* odd that it uses ftp
17:42<jmcnaught>getting a system installed by debootstrap to boot can be a little tricky
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17:43<notafile>and because I only want to touch very specific things, not reformat everything I guess. would netinst support installing btrfs into an existing LVM?
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17:43<notafile>I guess I'll just wait on the download then hm
17:43<jmcnaught>the d-i's partitioning tool is pretty flexible
17:45<notafile>let's see who's faster, me or the netinst download heh
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17:47<Walex>notafile: it is pretty doable, so be encouraged.
17:47<notafile>I think my old laptop was installed via chroot
17:48<notafile>I'm just not sure how to deal with EFI I guess
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17:50<notafile>thoughts on going with something exotic like refind instead of grub?
17:51<jmcnaught>you can, but if you use standard Debian tools it will be easier to get support
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17:52<notafile>yeah, seems to have no advantage but looking nicer for the 10 seconds I see it
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17:53<notafile>even less. I do remember the UX being better but meh
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18:06<notafile>any actual benefit to seperating all the /var /usr /etc dirs onto partitions? I did that last time and it was only annoying
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18:11<jmcnaught>notafile: I don't recommend it without a reason.
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18:13<JaguarDown>In a bash script can't I use a wild card * in a file path? For example doing /media/foo/*/bar apparently doesn't work.
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18:14<jmcnaught>JaguarDown: what command in your script uses that path?
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18:15<JaguarDown>jmcnaught: ssh-add
18:16<JaguarDown>says no such file or directory
18:16<JaguarDown>the wild card is for when a usb drive gets auto mounted I might not know the folder name
18:16<JaguarDown>unless there is a way around that as well
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18:17<jmcnaught>JaguarDown: this probably has more to do with ssh-add than bash. if you run "ls /media/foo/*/bar" in your script does that work?
18:19<JaguarDown>jmcnaught: Ha, yes that works.
18:19<JaguarDown>No wonder I couldn't find an answer on the internet
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18:23<JaguarDown>escaping it with '' or \ doesn't work either.
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18:39<JaguarDown>The guys at freenode #openbsd said ssh-add probably can't understand a wild card, I'll have to find some other way to do it like using find.
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18:51<JaguarDown>For the record I typed the wrong file name, fortunately the guys at openbsd are good sports and enjoy arguing about the precise behavior of shell globs
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18:53<nvz>heh, what does that have to do with debian?
18:54<hubot>What is user unconfined in selinux?
18:54<sney>nvz: it was an issue using ssh-add on a debian system with what looked like a weird bash expansion behavior
18:54<nvz>sney: ah, that makes sense
18:55<hubot>unconfined_u:object_r:user_home_t:s0 test
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19:00<jmcnaught>hubot: this might not be the best place to ask selinux questions, simply because not a lot of Debian users are familiar with it
19:02<annadane>there's #selinux on freenode
19:03<hubot>On #selinux is small traffic
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19:04<nvz>hubot: yes I'm not familiar with it but I know that it offers two contexts confined and unconfined, the unconfined requires a kernel module to be loaded which allows certain users and processes to operate outside the policy basically
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19:05<nvz>these unconfined contexts are inherited as well, so a user in an unconfined context will create processes in that context
19:06<nvz>if you're trying to lock it down, you obviously dont want this
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19:57<badargo>hey guys, when they say linux is writen in c
19:57<badargo>does it mean bash language is c or something like that?
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19:58<badargo>humm... because in the distro theres the kernell writen in assembly, and all the rest in one language right?
19:58<badargo>well...
19:59<badargo>i got no clue :P
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20:14<bremner>badargo: some of your questions are well answered on wikipedia
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20:58<nvz>badargo: most complex programs are written in several languages. this is more a discussion for #debian-offtopic or somewhere else, its not really a debian support issue
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21:13<rpifan>hey im having an awful time trying to install debian, if i boot from grub the screen gets all garbled and even changing the vga setting doesnt work. If i try to use the live image the installer doesnt exist, when i download it it wont find the initrd even though its there
21:15<nvz>rpifan: what kind of hardware are you using?
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21:16<rpifan>hp probook 4540s
21:16<nvz>which is what? what kind of graphics does it have?
21:16<rpifan>im currently mounted on my live usb so if there any changes i need to make to get it to boot i can try
21:17<nvz>rpifan: so you have what stretch installed and its not usable because of a video issue and also have stretch live on usb and it works?
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21:19<user_>nvz, 0:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller (rev 09)
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21:20<nvz>rpifan_: so its a Core i integrated gpu I guess
21:20<rpifan_>i guess so
21:20<nvz>so you have stretch on this machines HDD and also live on a usb?
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21:21<rpifan_>nop i cant get it to install at all, i on the live usb right now.
21:21<nvz>so its the installer then that is having the video issue?
21:22<rpifan_>yes but it is related to grub because the grub text shows up garbled as well even on arch linux after it starts to boot and picks the right video driver it jsut works
21:22<nvz>hmm
21:23<rpifan_>idealy id find a way to jsut run the installer from the boot live usb
21:23<rpifan_>but i cant it to run
21:23<nvz>can you do an lspci -n because that info you pasted is pretty useless
21:24<nvz>lspci -n will give a 1234:5678 kind of vendor product id
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21:24<rpifan_>ok
21:25<nvz>it'll likely be 8086:something
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21:25<rpifan_>yea
21:25<rpifan_>im getting lots of texts
21:25<rpifan_>whats that trick to send command stuff to a paste service
21:25<rpifan_>with curl or soethign
21:25<nvz>rpifan_: I only need the 4 numbers for 0:02.0
21:26<nvz>intel is 8086 I need the other half of that code
21:26<nvz>to be able to see if I can dig up anything. what you are describing doesn't sound so much like a software issue, but a hardware bug
21:27<rpifan_>00:02.0 0300: 8086:0166 (rev 09)
21:27<rpifan_>i wouldnt surprised
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21:27<rpifan_>its such an early efi machine it has all kinds of issues
21:27<nvz>yeah its not too uncommon in laptops
21:27<nvz>they push shit out the door with all kinds of issues
21:29<rpifan_>its old but i got it for free and had to sell my macbook to pay rent
21:29<rpifan_>so its what i got
21:29<rpifan_>im happy to have switched to linux full time
21:29<rpifan_>but i was having issues with arch and also ubuntu so i really really want debian
21:29<nvz>heh.. did you at least get a good amount of money for the macbook?
21:30<rpifan_>oh yea
21:30<rpifan_>i got more then i bought it for
21:30<rpifan_>but yea ubuntu and arch boot fine
21:30<rpifan_>its just the way debian interacts with grub i think thats the issue
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21:32<nvz>rpifan_: you're using stretch though right?
21:33<nvz>a 4.x kernel, not some old 3.x
21:33<rpifan_>Description: Debian GNU/Linux 9.0 (stretch)
21:33<rpifan_>Release: 9.0
21:37<rpifan_>is there anyway for me to get the installer to run from the booted live DE
21:37<rpifan_>that would solve this
21:37<rpifan_>once it gets installed i can get around any issues
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21:40<nvz>in that case have you tried/considered hooking it to your TV or something? doesn't this have HDMI out?
21:40<nvz>there are a ton of posts online about issues with this hardware but not a whole lot of solutions
21:40<nvz>apparently pixelation in the gfx pipeline is a very common issue with this device
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21:42<nvz>there is a possibility using a different output on the card may have a different result
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21:42<nvz>its worth a shot.
21:42<rpifan_>well how can i change those options also would it work with hdmi?
21:42<rpifan_>at that early of the boot
21:42<nvz>the system usually detects a connected display, especially if the lid is closed
21:43<nvz>and there are usually soft keys for switching output
21:43<rpifan_>yea i do see some keys
21:44<rpifan_>is there no way to start the instalelr tho
21:44<rpifan_>idk why debian-installer doesnt work in the usb
21:44<nvz>I wouldnt be the least bit surprised to find out what is happening is the card is using memory that is assigned to other hardware which is overwriting the framebuffer
21:44<nvz>idk what you mean by no way to start the installer I assumed you had install media since you said it didnt work
21:45<rpifan_>yea i have the live usb but i mean start the installer
21:45<rpifan_>the actual series of screens that begins the debian installation
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21:45<rpifan_>from a booted desktop like with ubuntu you click on the desktop and it starts installing
21:46<nvz>rpifan_: idk I never used it, but if you have some basic knowledge of the command line you can install manually with debootstrap
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21:46<rpifan_>yea ive installed arch lol
21:46<nvz>just use gparted to setup partitions, make filesystems, mount them, debootstrap them, chroot to the mounted drive, install a bootloader and you're done
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21:46<rpifan_>what if i just want to use efistub i used that for ubunt and it worked
21:47<rpifan_>i already have the setup from ubuntu wouldnt i just format the current partitions structure
21:47<rpifan_>also i thougth chroot was dead bcuase of systemd or somethign
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21:48<nvz>idk but I've suddenly realized I'm extremely tired .. it finally cooled down here and I'm crashing hard
21:48<badargo>heyyy
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21:48<badargo>i just found this book with a imposing name called "linux bible" and its allmost 900 pages
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21:49<badargo>but no page recomending books for linux mention it
21:49<rpifan_>well i appreciate yoru help nvz
21:49<rpifan_>ill send u soem cookies
21:49<badargo>so is this rly the linux bible or something like that?
21:49<nvz>badargo: thats so on topic here I might just stay up to discuss it
21:50<rpifan_>lol
21:50<badargo>offtopic is dead and nobody replied :S
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22:40<zie>hello
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22:41<brendaki>hello
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22:41<zie>are a parrot os user?
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22:42<brendaki>i am not
22:44<annadane>!parrot
22:45<dpkg>Parrot OS (https://www.parrotsec.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution. It is based on Debian testing, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #parrot on irc.frozenbox.org or try the mailing lists at http://lists.parrotsec.org/listinfo. Also ask me about <based on debian>.
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22:46<zie>hello
22:46<zie>guys
22:47<zie>hi
22:48<annadane>zie: see above. parrot is not supported in #debian
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22:48<zie>oh ok
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22:50<somiaj>zie missed the factoid,
22:50<somiaj>!parrot
22:50<dpkg>Parrot OS (https://www.parrotsec.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution. It is based on Debian testing, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #parrot on irc.frozenbox.org or try the mailing lists at http://lists.parrotsec.org/listinfo. Also ask me about <based on debian>.
22:51<zie>who use parrot os here?
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22:51<somiaj>zie: parrot os is offtopic here, read the bots factoid on how to get support for parrot os
22:52<zie>oh ..ok
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22:56<zie>who use metasploit here>?
22:58<somiaj>please don't poll the channel, and since you are not running debian, you should seek support from either parrot os users, or from the software itself, such as metasploit
22:59<zie>oh...ok
23:00<zie>what channel do type?
23:01<zie>do i* type?
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23:02<zie>hello?
23:02<somiaj>read what the bot said. It clearly told you where to go for support for parrot os.
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23:08<brendaki>Seek help in #parrot on irc.frozenbox.org
23:26<zie>i cant connect to FrozenBox
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23:27<annadane>zie, as the bot said, you can try the mailing lists at http://lists.parrotsec.org/listinfo or try again later
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23:28<zie>ok ill try
23:29<k-man>how do i make my touchpad allow tap to click?
23:29<k-man>ie, without actually pressing it
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