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---Logopened Thu Aug 03 00:00:37 2017
00:03<Maarten_>no.. i have this strange bug that i just cant get to work... when i mount my usb stick i have on mount hook script that will change the values in ~/.config/xdg-user-dirs.dirs to point to my usb stick and pre_unmount hook to restore original values... in my filebrowser everything works as expected... and from other applications saving file in my documents will endup in usb.. however it desktop will not reload to disply content of desktop dir in usb stick..
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00:07<jmcnaught>Maarten_: Okay. I haven't used MATE but from what I remember about GNOME 2 the icons on the desktop were provided by the file manager Nautilus which has been renamed Caja in MATE. You could try sending SIGHUP to the caja process displaying your desktop, but I don't know if Caja will restart because of that signal or not
00:08<Maarten_>is worth a try... how to sent sigup to caja?
00:10<jmcnaught>something like pkill --signal SIGHUP caja
00:10<Maarten_>my hero...
00:10<Maarten_>awsome
00:10<jmcnaught>it worked?
00:11<Maarten_>yes...
00:11<jmcnaught>I sent a SIGHUP to terminator and it just exits… that trick depends on how the program handles that signal
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00:12<jmcnaught>which could actually be what's happening with caja, but some other MATE process restarts it if it exits
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00:14<Maarten_>makes sence... when i pkilled the mate-panel i did not needed to do the altf2 it instantly reappeard
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00:14<jmcnaught>I do kind of miss old Nautilus's spatial mode, it reminded me of OS/2's Workplace Shell
00:14<Maarten_>what is spatial mode?
00:16<jmcnaught>each directory in its own window, and the window for each directory remembers its position and dimensions
00:18<Maarten_>ah bit like the amiga...
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00:20<Maarten_>actually mate remembers window size and view type... what are you using now?
00:21<Maarten_>thanks for you help... learned allot.
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00:22<jmcnaught>Nautilus, but I'm not a heavy file manager user. I also don't have icons on my desktop. I run a pretty vanilla GNOME 3
00:22<jmcnaught>Maarten_: you're welcome. you have some interesting problems that you work on.
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00:39<Maarten_>jmcnaught: hihi, i live inside my filemanager... the dream is to create a newbee proof version that i plan to use to start organize install parties.. so now im working on creating the perfect (according to my imagination) setup ... i really love that almost everything is configurable, to bad i started at such old age. it feels like it will take years to understand all the ins and outs...
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00:46<jmcnaught>Maarten_: it's a pretty interesting idea, but one downside to it is that newbies using this who have problems will find it difficult to get support in places like #debian where everyone is unfamiliar with all the custom tricks in use
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00:57<Maarten_>jmcnaught: good point, will think about that... but for now, im far from finished so i still have some time ..
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01:18<kt>hi! I've just installed Debian 9.10 via Netboot ISO on a 64bit laptop & installed non-free drivers. System now freezes after the login screen, showing only the desktop wallpaper & a frozen "waiting" animation. Any advice welcomed. Thanks! Ken.
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01:22<jm_>do you have another system that you could use to login to the problematic one?
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01:25<kt>Hi jm_, I'm currently talking to you via another linux laptop running Lubuntu 16.04, although I'm not sure now I'd log into the other laptop from this one.
01:26<jm_>kt: install openssh-server on the problematic laptop, then you will just ssh username@problematic_laptop_IP and go from there
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01:28<kt>Thanks! The only drama is, I haven't yet gotten to a workable desktop environment on the problematic laptop in order to then open the terminal. Do you know how I can boot straight to the terminal?
01:33<jm_>kt: wait, you said it works at the login screen, but freezes *after* you input username/password, is that right?
01:34<kt>That's right.
01:34<jm_>then you can simply press ctrl-alt-f1 or ctrl-alt-f2 at the login prompt, login on console and install it there
01:34<kt>Ah. I'll try that now & report back in a couple of minutes.
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01:37<kt>It seems that neither ctrl-alt-f1 or ctrl-alt-f2 get any response on that laptop, and neither does ctrl-f1 or ctrl-f2
01:38<jm_>are you using gdm for login?
01:39<kt>hmmm. Not sure. Am using the default login method. Interestingly, the screen freezes after login either into the default Debian environment, or MATE which I also slected during install - no difference there.
01:42<jm_>then I'd recommend to edit kernel parameters - at boot prompt press 'e' then find kernel command line (linux ....) and add this at the end «systemd.unit=multi-user.target»
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01:45<kt>Great! Thanks again. Having pressed 'e' at boot prompt, I see a line which reads "echo 'Loading Linux 4.9.0-3amd64 ...' " Is this the line you mean?
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01:46<jm_>no below that one, it should say something like linux /boot/... root=/...
01:46<jm_>for me it's the next line after echo
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01:48<kt>Ah, ok. So I add the bit you mentioned without the << & >> marks, I imagine?
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01:50<jm_>yes
01:50<jm_>that should boot into text mode so you don't have to fiddle with ctrl-alt-f...
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01:55<kt>Good stuff. I'm now logged into the terminal, but having run "install openssh-server" I get the message "install: missing destination file operand after 'openssh-server'". And I don't know how to get online / networked from the command line either. Unfortunately I'll need to run away in a few minutes, but I'm grateful for your help anyway.
01:56<jm_>wait, do you know how to install debian packages? apt install openssh-server
01:57<jm_>ok so once you have time come back and someone will help
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02:00<kt>Thanks jm_ - I usually install stuff via the GUI, but have just succeeded in installing openssh-server. I'll pop back via IRC when I'm next free. Many thanks!
02:01<jm_>no problem
02:01<jm_>!grounding
02:01<dpkg>Before asking in here or on the <debian-user> mailing list, you should read the Installation Guide, or if you already have Debian installed, the Debian Reference. The Debian Administrator's Handbook is also good. Ask me about <ig>, <overview>, <reference>, <refcard>, <docs>, <manuals>, <fundamentals>, <newbiedoc>, <faq>, <unix lessons>, <general cli tutorial>, <debian-handbook> (e.g. in your IRC client, type /msg dpkg reference).
02:02<jm_>kt: ^^^^^^^ some of the will help be more effective
02:02<jm_>the above*
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04:17<Snglrty>sometimes my debian 9.1 just totally freeze, nothing help, alt+ctrl+f2 dont call terminal. Only hardreset help. There is some logs where i can see what happens?
04:17<Snglrty>debian 9.1 gnome
04:18<towo^work>journalctl -b -1
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04:18<towo^work>hopefulle there was anything written before the freeze
04:19<jm_>is journal persistent these days?
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04:20<Snglrty>it says Specifying boot ID has no effect, no persistent journal was found
04:20<jm_>:)
04:20<jm_>I know I had to enable it manually
04:20<towo^work>hm, that should be changed by default
04:21<Snglrty>and i think that freezes sometimes happens when i watch youtube via google chrome
04:22<towo^work>and your hardware is?
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04:22<Snglrty>dell inspiron laptop with intel pentium
04:24<towo^work>apt install inxi
04:24<towo^work>inxi -v3 as user
04:26<Snglrty>http://paste.debian.net/979470/
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04:38<pekka>hello
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05:01<lwxre>how can i install a program in debian
05:01<jm_>with apt install ...
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05:04<lwxre>when i used Gdebi Package Installer i found this error "Dependency is not satisfiable: libssl1.0.0 (>= 1.0.0)
05:05<lwxre>why
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05:06<Drzacek>Hello dudes
05:06<Drzacek>Why my thunderbird doesn't play any sounds?
05:07<Drzacek>and more importantly - how do I make it start playing sounds
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05:24<Gabriel_7>I have servers connected to the network over wifi: what's the best way to ensure that they reconnect automatically if the AP signal get lost at some point ? I don't think ifupdown does this by itself so I'd need to build some reconnection logic on top of it. I could probably use network-manager. I might use systemd-networkd but I didn't try to use it yet.
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05:26<grove>!bat
05:26<dpkg>In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>.
05:27<grove>lwxre: Probably because the thing you're trying to install isn't built for the version of Debian you're running. If you want more help, tell us what version you're running and what you're trying to install and where you got it, and follow what dpkg just said
05:28<Gabriel_7>Drzacek: do you have pulseaudio?
05:28<Drzacek>Gabriel_7, no idea
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05:28<Gabriel_7>Drzacek: ps aux | grep pulseaudio
05:29<Drzacek> 3108 ? S<l 1:00 /usr/bin/pulseaudio --start --log-target=syslog
05:29<Drzacek>I guess I have pulseaudio
05:31<Gabriel_7>Yes, you might want to check pavucontrol.
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05:31<Gabriel_7>The different volumes, mute buttons, configured sinks, etc.
05:32<Drzacek>you sir, are a genius!
05:32<Drzacek>system sounds 0%
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05:33<onee-chan>hello
05:34<Drzacek>works now. Too bad that nice kde applet didn't had that setting there
05:34<Nirgal>Hi. I have an issue with lxc conainer and stretch: /dev/net/tun is missing. I have a work around with "mknod /dev/net/tun c 10 200", but this is sub-optimal. Do you know what usually /dev/sys/tun ?
05:34<Nirgal>I tried booting the conainer on both systemv and systemd and the issue is present in both situation.
05:34<onee-chan>So, my wifi card(Havit WF-30 on Debian 9) does see the network but it can't connect.
05:35<Nirgal>What usually creates /dev/net/tun I mean?
05:38<grawity>systemd-tmpfiles-setup-dev.service, based on information from kmod-static-nodes.service
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05:38<grawity>in the past, udev itself
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05:46<Nirgal>grawity: I enabled systemv and now I have a warning on the vm boot "[warn] udev does not support containers, not started ... (warning)." So I guess this is created in another way, like maybe an lxc-specific way
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05:48<grawity>...oh, lxc?
05:49<grawity>right then, I've never actually dealt with that combination
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06:03<Nirgal>grawity: Found more answers in lxc.container.conf(5). Thank you anyway ^^
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06:45<Gabriel_7>/lib/udev/rules.d/50-udev-default.rules: KERNEL=="tun", MODE="0666", OPTIONS+="static_node=net/tun ?
06:45<Gabriel_7>grawity: ^
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06:52<onee-chan>My wifi problems are fixed. Turns out it was not a driver issue. It was a networkmanager issue. Thank Madoka for wicd.
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07:01<retrowales>can i install get_iplayer to mx 16.1
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07:37<k-man>when i close my laptop at work, go home, then open it again, after resuming, it doesn't notice the wifi changed and try and reconnect to the wifi
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08:01<grawity>what wi-fi client are you using?
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08:18<ya-safinaskar>what is default login manager in stretch for kde?
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08:23<Epakai>ya-safinaskar: sddm i think
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08:27<ya-safinaskar>it seems sddm
08:27<ya-safinaskar>thank you
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08:37<habs>hi all -- i have an external USB LUKS encrypted hard drive that i use for backups. yesterday, i accidentally unplugged it without unmounting it. today, I can unlock it from thunar by entering my password, but if I try to mount it I get this error:
08:37<habs>"Error mounting /dev/dm-0 at /media/habs/habs: Command-line `mount -t "ext4" -o "uhelper=udisks2,nodev,nosuid" "/dev/dm-0" "/media/habs/habs"' exited with non-zero exit status 32: mount: /dev/mapper/luks-23654325-6192-4012-9604-5cc1654963bb: can't read superblock"
08:38<habs>what can i do to debug or fix this drive and read my backup? I tried doing "sudo xfs_repair /dev/mapper/luks-23654325-6192-4012-9604-5cc1654963bb" but eventually got "Sorry, could not find valid secondary superblock" from that.
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08:50<grove>xfs_reapir isn't going to do you much good if the filesystem is (was) ext4 as the error maessage suggest
08:53<grove>I would probably try to mount it using a backup superblock, the mount option is called sb=, but you really should read the man page for mount and mke2fs yourself
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08:55<grove>And I would recommend using cryptsetup and mount directly rather than any gui that might add, remove or change options without clearly informing you, and when dealing with problems like this, you really don't need that
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09:09<habs>grove: Thank you, that fixed it! How can I fix the superblock so I don't have to always use that option in the future?
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09:16<grove>habs: I don't know, but I think it might try to write a good superblock to the standard location if you umount the fs nicely
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10:03<mvanorder>I'm running a vmware debian 9 machine with no issues. The only real issue I've had in virtualbox was video lag, but that applied to several distros that I tried
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10:47<a910236>hello, i got a simple vm with debian running samba and main purpose of it is to take backups over SMB from few windows servers, and it works fine but i noticed that syslog gets filled with bunch of messages like this: https://paste.debian.net/979639/
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10:48<a910236>as a not that advanced user i dont understand is this abnormal or something to worry about or should i just ignore it, what does it mean, is it running out of RAM or what is happening, i couldnt figure it out by myself by googling so that i could understand it
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10:51<jmcnaught>a910236: what release of Debian is it?
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10:52<a910236>stretch, and if it matters the KVM host it runs on is stretch too
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10:52<a910236>upgraded from jessie about a month ago
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10:55<jmcnaught>a910236: I can't really stick around to help but I think the error that stands out to research more is on the first line of your paste, the "kswapd0: page allocation failure…" line. I found similar errors reported for RHEL 6 using 2.6 kernel.
10:57<jmcnaught>i would also try looking for errors on the host site, perhaps with "journalctl -u libvirtd"
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11:00<a910236>the host seems to be fine and not complaining about anything, dont see anything abnormal on logs and that command only says that virtualization daemon has been started, so it seems like the problem is on the vm side
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11:51<Tekla>i'm installing old versions of shit for testing and using snapshots for it .... and using the ..20090801T192339Z results in a warning about NO_PUBKEY 9AA38DCD55BE302B
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11:51<Tekla>using gpg to get the key for 55BE302B gives "gpg: keyserver receive failed: No name"
11:52<Tekla>help plz
11:54<annadane>Tekla, "old versions of shit" isn't very descriptive. what specifically are you trying to install?
11:55<Tekla>mysql-server-5.0_5.0.84-1
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11:55<annadane>and also how are you trying to install it?
11:56<Tekla>I added the snapshot to sources.list
11:56<Tekla>and then wanted to use apt-get install mysql-server-5.0=5.0.84-1
11:57<dark-jedi>I thought it was descriptive. I spent the last 5 minutes laughing about it.
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11:59<Tekla>dark-jedi: any constructive comments?
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12:00<annadane>i really don't know enough about snapshots to comment or whether it's a good idea to install them using apt install
12:00<dark-jedi>Tekla: Nothing specific, sorry. Mostly because I'm an aptitude fanboy, you might try using "aptitude why-not mysql-server-5.0=5.0.84-1" or something along those lines. It might explain in more detail about why it isn't installing.
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12:01<annadane>also you didn't give us the complete output of your attempted installation
12:01<annadane>paste.debian.net
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12:02<dark-jedi>Tekla: I've used snapshots before, and they can be a headache at times. Usually it's just something small that hangs the entire operation.
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12:02<Snglrty>which tools is best for full system backups?
12:02<Tekla>annadane / dark-jedi thanks ... i guess i'll ignore the warning then 8)
12:03<scott_>my system (stretch) has suddenly decided my main account is no longer in group sudo. how do i fix this? (and how could it possibly have happened?)
12:03<annadane>Tekla, did we suggest that?
12:03<edeak>scott_: by default, users aren't in group sudo
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12:04<edeak>can you still login as root with
12:04<edeak>$ su
12:04<edeak>?
12:04<Tekla>maybe you used something to mess with /etc/sudoers
12:04<edeak>you need to run
12:04<dark-jedi>I didn't... Warnings are usually good to read. That's usually what tells you where the error is Tekla.
12:04<edeak>$ adduser YOURACCOUNT sudo
12:04<edeak>but as root
12:04<scott_>i set up my sytem to not have a root password, and to have my account be a sudoer. it worked just fine for a while. it's worked for years under other debian releases. yesterday, it suddenly stopped working.
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12:04<edeak>oh right
12:04<edeak>sorry
12:05<Tekla>dark-jedi: it's a virtual system with just me accessing it
12:05<annadane>"no longer in sudo" does imply it was before.
12:05<scott_>edeak, i cannot. there is no root password
12:05<edeak>do you have a debian instalation cd?
12:05<edeak>or any live cd
12:05<edeak>if you do, you can chroot to it and then run 'passwd'
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12:05<scott_>the problem is that i can't become root, and i don't have my rescue dvd anymore (i'm in the middle of moving, and it's packed somewhere)
12:05<edeak>to it, as in, your root drive
12:06<edeak>well can you burn one?
12:06<annadane>Tekla, my uneducated guess is that the key doesn't exist or is outdated because it's so old. but i really have no idea and i'd probably wait for other advice
12:06<annadane>edeak,
12:06<annadane>!enter
12:06<dpkg>The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel.
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12:06<edeak>ok, my bad, annadane ;P sorry for wasting all these packets
12:06<itd>scott_: https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch08s07.html.en
12:06<dark-jedi>lol @ dpkg. Testy little bot, aren't you?
12:06<scott_>if i can find a blank one, i supposed i can try to burn one
12:07<annadane>dark-jedi, i triggered it with my !enter command
12:07<scott_>itd: of course! boot into rescue mode. thanks!
12:08<scott_>but what file do i fix?
12:08<dark-jedi>annadane: I know. Still made me laugh though. You only did it once, and it says "If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel."
12:08<Tekla>annadane: paste.debian.net/979664/
12:08<annadane>it's just hard to follow what someone is saying when they break up their messages too much. but anyway.
12:09<itd>scott_: Use visudo or something like that. :)
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12:09<itd>scott_: (Should you want to check the sudoers file.)
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12:09<scott_>do i need to edit /etc/sudoers or add myself to the sudo group or what? i never really looked at the details before
12:09<itd>scott_: Depends on the state of your system.
12:09<dark-jedi>Tekla: You see that line near the bottom that says "See apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creation and user configuration details."
12:10<dark-jedi>Tekla: I would follow that thread. It might take you interesting places.
12:10<itd>scott_: Maybe have a look at https://wiki.debian.org/sudo
12:10<scott_>standard stretch configuration
12:10<Tekla>i do not want to create a repo :s
12:10<mc68040>scott_: my way to become root: reboot with init=/bin/bash - then mount -o remount,rw / and then passwd - no cd needed
12:11<dark-jedi>Tekla: apt-secure does more than that...
12:11*dark-jedi is away for now... Ciao
12:12<scott_>mc68040 thanks
12:13<annadane>i can probably google fairly quickly the cause of bad keys in snapshots
12:13<scott_>okay, thanks all. i'm rebooting now to see what i can do
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12:14<Tekla>annadane: so.... back to my original solution of ignoring the warning...
12:14<annadane>Tekla, i'd just wait until someone who knows more chips in. you did say only you access your system
12:14<Tekla>yep
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12:15<annadane>i suppose you probably could do that. but i hesitate to give my advice as the word of god
12:15<Tekla>i'm trying to create an envorinment to mirror the deployment site
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12:17<chaos>better :)
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12:32<bw123__>you kids play nice now
12:32<chaos>hell no
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12:32<bw123__>you mommy will spamk you
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12:34<chaos>i managed to add the key but it isn't any better now: paste.debian.net/979673/
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12:35<rob_debian>Hi all, please, I'd like an explanation about it: https://paste.debian.net/979674/
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12:37<chaos>42
12:38<rob_debian>Debian has fetched 215 kb, but after calculating upgrade, 0 kb upgrade was done (also 0 newly installed and 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded
12:39<chaos>maybe the 215kb was the list of packages and whatever packages changed if at all none are installed on your system?
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12:41<annadane>rob_debian, wouldn't worry about it. looks like there just aren't any upgrades
12:41<annadane>i agree with chaos
12:42<bw123__>chaos rules
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12:42<annadane>rob_debian, you can also make sure with (i think) apt --list-upgradeable
12:42<annadane>i have to remember the actual command
12:43<annadane>no, that isn't it
12:43<rob_debian>fine, chaos and annadane !! thanks for explanation !! yeah bw123, these guys are so special people ! Debian Warriors !
12:44<annadane>rob_debian, apt list --upgradable
12:44<rob_debian>ok, annadane I'll apply it now, really thank you !
12:44<bw123__>yeh their warriors, ninjas too
12:45<chaos>samurai!
12:45<annadane>bw123__, please stay on topic
12:45<rob_debian>output here, annadane: Listing....done
12:45<annadane>yeah, so nothing needs upgrading
12:46<chaos>haha trust me i'm an engineer :P
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12:47<bw123__>no luck
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13:01<rob_debian>fine, annadane, thanks !
13:03<rob_debian>please, is that possible this non-free package be compiled for Debian Stretch ? ' uuidd' – SAP AS ABAP requires the OS to run uuidd service to ensure the uniqueness of
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13:04<rob_debian>csh – Ubuntu and Debian require you to install csh before you start the ABAP installation - fine, csh already installed here
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13:06<mc68040>rob_debian: is the uuidd from packet uuid-runtime not good?
13:08<rob_debian>in fact, I don't know mc68040, I didn't know about this uuid-runtime you referred. is that the same application ?
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13:09<agaida>http://paste.debian.net/979682/
13:09<mc68040>rob_debian: "apt install uuid-runtime" installs "uuidd" and starts the server - whether this is what SAP needs i dont know
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13:11<agaida>but we have only the daemon written by Ted Tso :P
13:12<agaida>so if ABAP works with free generated unique identifyers :P
13:12<agaida>s/y/i
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13:15<rob_debian>yes, mc68040, please, take a look on it: https://blogs.sap.com/2016/11/03/sap-nw-as-abap-7.50-sp2-developer-edition-to-download-consise-installation-guide/
13:15<rob_debian>they refer to ubuntu (no !!) and Debian
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13:30*mnuhmnuh man 7 man-pages: "Please limit source code line length to no more than about 75 characters wherever possible." uh huh.
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13:30*mnuhmnuh do devs read manpages?
13:30<chaos>mnuhmnuh: no
13:31<chaos>manpages are for quality management ppl :)
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14:22<marioxcc>Hello.
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14:22<marioxcc>When I change VLC volume, the global system volume changes too and vice-versa.
14:22<marioxcc>How can I avoid this nosense behaivour?
14:24<Dark-Jedi>Don't use VLC?
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14:24<Dark-Jedi>marioxcc: Or perhaps this: https://wired-mind.info/post/510
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14:25<marioxcc>Dark-Jedi: Ok, thanks.
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14:45<annadane>it may be de dependant
14:45<annadane>i think i had issues with that in xfce but not in kde
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15:04<birb>Evening. o/ ...unless I'm missing something, it seems it's not possible to install Debian from a live session, without having to reboot or anything of the like. Is this the case?
15:04<annadane>birb, what do you mean from a live session?
15:05<birb>Debian 9, that is. I could do it in 8.
15:05<birb>And, by live session, I mean downloading the live image, then installing from there. Debian-installer-launcher throws up an error, which otherwise worked fine on 8.
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15:07<petn-randall>birb: Don't use the live system for installing, it has several known (and unknown) bugs. Use the netinstaller instead.
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15:11<birb>Darn, ok. Was hoping to configure/partition the drives with bcache-tools prior to install. I'm guessing that wouldn't be possible via netinstaller?
15:11<yids>hey, am using debian9 with lxce4, i`d like to be able to switch between bulgarian and english keyboard layout, but theres only bulgarian traditional and non traditional phonetic anyone knows how to get that?
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15:12<yids>i mean, non traditional phonetic is not there
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15:14<Walex>yids: nobody may have done it yet, check with 'apt-cache search bulgarian' for example
15:14<yids>yeah i did i dint find anything
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15:15<annadane>birb, i'm not personally familiar with bcache-tools but what do you want to do with it that the netinstall wouldn't be able to?
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15:16<yids>can i just manually add keymappings orsomething if i find one from another distro?
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15:16<yids>(it was in some ubuntu release for example)
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15:19<petn-randall>birb: I partitioned and set up my stuff before installing, it should work out fine. I'm not 100% sure if the netinstaller knowns about bcache, just try it and see.
15:19<petn-randall>(you might need to start expert mode and load some extra installer modules)
15:20<annadane>birb, ^ the netinstaller can partition the disks and other stuff. it really depends on what you want to do
15:20<birb>annadane: SSD caching the root partition, mainly. With live, I could set up the HDD and SSD for backing and caching, then install it onto the bcache partition. Basically this, but a few steps altered to make it more Debian-friendly: http://www.kloppenborg.net/blog/2016/02/17/installing-ubuntu-1510-with-bcache-support
15:21<yids>oh /usr/share/X11/xkb/rules/xorg.lst does contain an entry for bulgarian new phonetix
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15:21<birb>But... yes, I'll have a snoop around the netinstaller to see if it recognises bcache partitions.
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15:31<yids>ah it works :)
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15:37<Snglrty>that dmesg errors is dangerous? http://paste.debian.net/979730/ and there is any idea how to fix?
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15:53<rob_debian>Please, I need to install libaio packages in debian, but these mustn't be installed on a normal system, for they are used to build iso images
15:53<rob_debian>https://packages.debian.org/source/sid/libaio
15:54<rob_debian>intended to building debian-installer images only. so, please, what shall I do to have these packages in my debian stretch ?
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15:57<jmcnaught>,v libaio1
15:57<judd>Package: libaio1 on amd64 -- wheezy: 0.3.109-3; jessie: 0.3.110-1; buster: 0.3.110-3; sid: 0.3.110-3; stretch: 0.3.110-3
15:57<jmcnaught>rob_debian: it's in stretch ^ why can't you install it?
15:58<rob__>Hi folks. I installed "stretch" a little over a week ago. To this day, I haven't received any updates via apt-get update and upgrade.
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15:59<rob_debian>hi jmcnaught, I'm worried about this warning, about libaio1-udeb: Warning: This package is intended for the use in building debian-installer images only. Do not install it on a normal Debian system.
15:59<rob_debian>https://packages.debian.org/sid/libaio1-udeb
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16:00<rob_debian>Please, jmcnaught, so I can install it without no worries ?
16:00<jmcnaught>rob_debian: why are you trying to install the udeb? I haven't tried to build debian-installer images before, are you following some Debian documentation?
16:01<dboles>rob__: and is that necessarily a problem? i'm still tracking unstable but seem to recall jessie not been updated terribly often back in the day, relative to distros like unstable/testing or arch etc
16:01<dboles>that's kinda debian's thing
16:02<jmcnaught>rob__: you can check /var/log/apt/history.log. If you are using gnome, then you might have unattended-upgrades installed doing this silently in the background
16:02<rob_debian>no, jmacnaught, just need these libaio packages to prepare Debian Stretch for a SAP AS installation, and these packages are required for that
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16:03<jmcnaught>rob_debian: I don't understand why you would need to build debian-installer from source to install some commercial software
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16:04<rob_debian> I don't understand why it's considered a sap requirement for a sap application in debian server, jmcnaught: https://blogs.sap.com/2016/11/03/sap-nw-as-abap-7.50-sp2-developer-edition-to-download-consise-installation-guide/
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16:04<rob_debian>you can check it through this link I've passed you in the '
16:04<rob_debian>Additional software requirement' section
16:05<rob_debian>in ubuntu it's easier to install this SAP application, but I don't want to have it installed in ubuntu, but in Debian
16:05<jmcnaught>rob_debian: i think you got way off track. libaio1 is the package you want, you got distracted by the udeb version of the package for the installer
16:06<jmcnaught>"apt-get install libaio1"
16:06<rob_debian>ok jmcnaught, I'll follow your suggestion. thanks again for Great Support !:)
16:07<rob_debian>libaio1 is already the newest version (0.3.110-3).
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16:09<rob_debian>uuid-runtime, libaio and csh already installed, now I need 32lib libraries and LANG=en_US.UTF-8 configuration. my system is using english language, so, this step can be skipped.
16:09<n0rthlight>its easy subject to google but could somebody point me toward a clear Oracle VM and VM+EXT installation guide?
16:10<rob_debian>only need 32lib libraries now, please, is there any specific package in debian for that ?
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16:11<jmcnaught>n0rthlight: oracle.com? it must come with documentation. Any reason not to use something included in Debian such as libvirt+kvm?
16:11<rob_debian>there are tons of 32bit libs in https://packages.debian.org/stable/libs/
16:12<rob__>Thanks jmcnaught & dboles. I was just making sure that my repositories were good to go. I remember getting updates at least every other day last moneth when I had Jessie installed
16:12<jmcnaught>rob_debian: https://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch/HOWTO
16:12<rob_debian>don't know which of them I need to install here
16:12<rob_debian>thanks for help, jmcnaught ! I'll read it now :)
16:12<rob__>i suppose "stretch" is good to go for now =)
16:12<dboles>rob__: hm weird, i don't remember them being that frequent, but i was only using it regularly a few months ago
16:12<rob__>I didnt have too many extras installed either
16:13<jmcnaught>rob__: what does "apt-cache policy unattended-upgrades" say? is it installed?
16:13<rob__>S, noone has had any "base packages" updated in say... the last week or two?
16:14<jmcnaught>rob__: security updates are listed here: https://www.debian.org/security/
16:15<n0rthlight>jmcnaught I got classes with Oracle and its what I know I suppose.
16:15<rob__>I've changes all my "sections" in al my repository URLs to be 'main contrib non-free'
16:15<rob__>lemme check apt-cache policy unattended-upgrades
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16:16<rob__>unattended-upgrades:
16:16<rob__> Installed: 0.93.1+nmu1
16:16<rob__> Candidate: 0.93.1+nmu1
16:16<rob__> Version table:
16:16<rob__> *** 0.93.1+nmu1 500
16:16<rob__> 500 http://debian.gtisc.gatech.edu/debian stretch/main amd64 Packages
16:16<rob__> 500 http://debian.gtisc.gatech.edu/debian stretch/main i386 Packages
16:16<rob__> 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
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16:17<jmcnaught>rob__: thanks. in the future please do not paste into the channel, use http://paste.debian.net/ instead
16:18<skyzone>oi
16:18<jmcnaught>rob__: when installed that program installs upgrades automatically. You can remove it if you don't want that. As always when removing packages, carefully check what other packages apt wants to remove (if any).
16:19<skyzone>salve
16:21<skyzone>a
16:21<annadane>skyzone, question?
16:21<skyzone>brazil
16:21<dboles>!br
16:21<dpkg>Este canal é apenas em inglês. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues.
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16:23<rob__>jmcnaught: Sorry, I'll use pastebin in the future. I guess, I'm good to go. =D
16:23<annadane>i put "salve" into google translate and the "detect language" was english *shrug*
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16:24<annadane>suppose i'll remember for next time that it's portuguese
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16:27<rob_debian>in brazil this expression is used to emphasize in the fulfillment, joy by the person who you greet, but I suspect it's not the same meaning in portugal
16:28<rob_debian>I explained to skyzone about rules on this Support Channel: only english.
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16:31<annadane>"hello" is apparently just "ola" in portuguese
16:31<annadane>so, yeah
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16:35<smhar>oops
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16:39<n0rthlight>Hey I am following this guide https://wiki.debian.org/VirtualBox to install oracle however at this command: curl -O https://www.virtualbox.org/download/oracle_vbox_2016.asc I get error: bash: curl: command not found. What am I missing?
16:39<coruja>curl?
16:39<jmcnaught>n0rthlight: sounds like you need to install curl
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16:41<n0rthlight>Indeed.
16:41<n0rthlight>*blink*
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16:42<n0rthlight>thnaks Jmcaunght one day I fedex you a beer.
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16:45<jmcnaught>n0rthlight: your IRC client probably does <tab> completion for nicks, easier to hilight people that way ☺
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16:48<n0rthlight>jmcnaught aha thanks I will look into it. * Look in is back to see if jmcnaught is there spying*
16:49<jmcnaught>n0rthlight: i could tell because you misspelled my nick
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16:49<n0rthlight>For a moment I tough I was on windows 10 :P
16:49<n0rthlight>*burned*
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16:55<n0rthlight>jmcnaught Since you seems to have all the answers I added rep yesterday only the debian offcial one and there is no double in my sources.list why am I getting theses errors after the first 6 rep line W: Target Sources (main/source/Sources) is configured multiple times in /etc/apt/sources.list:8 and /etc/apt/sources.list:17
16:56<jmcnaught>!show sources.list
16:56<dpkg>Please pastebin the contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*.list. The easiest way to do this is to pastebin the output of: head -v -n -0 /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/*}
16:59<n0rthlight>Can I copy paste here? Some warnign earlier?
16:59<n0rthlight>Saw some warning.
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17:00<rob_debian>Bye all !!!
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17:02<grove>!paste
17:02<dpkg>Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>.
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17:03<n0rthlight>Omg I am getting the full noob !* haha
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17:05<n0rthlight>https://paste.debian.net/979744/
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17:05<n0rthlight>There is more in there then In my sources.list
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17:11<jmcnaught>n0rthlight: in sources.list you have duplicates on lines 8 and 17 just like in the warning it gave you
17:12<n0rthlight>Ok let me double check but I belive they not showing in my list directly
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17:12<jmcnaught>'deb http://deb.debian.org/debian stretch main' is the same as 'deb http://deb.debian.org/debian stretch main contrib non-free' except for contrib and non-free. the two entries for main are the duplicates
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17:15<jmcnaught>n0rthlight: oh and then in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/base.list you have it again
17:15<n0rthlight>Oh I believed it to completely separated rep. What is in free is present in non-free?
17:15<n0rthlight>...
17:15<jmcnaught>'main' is on both lines, that is the duplicate
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17:17<jmcnaught>n0rthlight: read https://wiki.debian.org/SourcesList and/or 'man sources.list' for more info on the subject
17:17<n0rthlight>Yeah I am.
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17:21<n0rthlight>yeah I get my error.
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17:28<n0rthlight>jmcnaught There should be no line really In the base.list am I correct?
17:28<n0rthlight>The rest is fixed only the base is left.
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17:30<jmcnaught>n0rthlight: that wiki page has a pretty good sample sources.list. I don't know why you added that file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
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17:31<n0rthlight>I miss understood when i read it to my defence my screen is in rendering mode .. :)
17:31<n0rthlight>First read it that is.
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17:34<jmcnaught>n0rthlight: sounds like you're figuring it out
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17:35<n0rthlight>yeah I am just don't get that base.list thing purposes.
17:36<jmcnaught>it was probably you that put it there
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17:38<n0rthlight>I dont believed so I remember sudo gedit opening a empty alternate souces.list file instead of the main one. sources.list~
17:39<n0rthlight>My changed didn't appear in them so I recopied thinking I didn't save.
17:40<n0rthlight>But eh who cares thanks for you help again and your patience.
17:41<jmcnaught>n0rthlight: don't use sudo for gedit or any other GUI programs. sudo is only for CLI programs. there is a gksudo command in the gksu package
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17:41<n0rthlight>Oh.
17:41<jmcnaught>n0rthlight: also i recommend you start taking notes on the changes you make and why. either in a journal, some text files, a personal wiki, and also as comments in the files that you edit
17:42<jmcnaught>n0rthlight: for example, today you added the oracle repo to sources.list to install virtualbox, you should leave a comment in sources.list like # added by n0rthlight on 2017-08-03 so i could install…
17:43<n0rthlight>This is a very good idea indeed.
17:43<jmcnaught>good to start those habits as early as you can
17:43<n0rthlight>Why no sudo gedit you have a link on it so I dont take your time?
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17:45<n0rthlight>I dont disagree obviously Its to understand .
17:46<jmcnaught>n0rthlight: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Running_X_apps_as_root also note what it says about PolicyKit being the proper way
17:46<n0rthlight>I will thank you.
17:47<jmcnaught>n0rthlight: but if you just need to edit a file as root use "sudo nano …" or "sudo sensible-editor …" instead of gedit or another GUI/X11 editor
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17:55<n0rthlight>Ok. Trying to figure out how to get ride of the base.list txt .
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17:58<n0rthlight>The txt on it does not appear in nano.
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18:02<cool>hi
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18:14<n0rthlight>All fixed, thanks for your help.
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18:25<diefi>!gnome
18:25<dpkg>GNOME is a Desktop Environment ("DE", so are <KDE> and <XFCE>) based on GTK+. To get or delete GNOME, ask me about <install gnome> or <remove gnome> respectively. See also <gnome status>. https://wiki.debian.org/Gnome http://www.gnome.org/ #debian-gnome on irc.debian.org. GNOME-related IRC channels: https://wiki.gnome.org/Community/GettingInTouch/IRC
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21:10<ap4lmtree>Hi, im trying to have a dhcpd server on my whonix debian station, i installed isc-dhcp-server , but i can't start it. do you guys see any errors in my /etc/dhcp/dhcpd.conf file? https://pastebin.com/09zCdq40
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21:11<slancaster>hello?
21:12<k-man>slancaster, hi
21:12<slancaster>This is my first time using IRC, Any guides on how to use it?
21:12<ap4lmtree>https://pastebin.com/WevcFeXv
21:12<ap4lmtree>thats what it is
21:13<slancaster>thanks
21:13<ap4lmtree>do you see any errors in that pastebin?
21:14<iflema>ap4lmtree: thats a pastebin... if you have mutiple lines of information use one instead of flooding the channel. Thas one thing...
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21:18<iflema>but not that one
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21:20<Joesph>#Beginner
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21:23<ap4lmtree>oh i see, the logs say it is a bad subnet and mask combinatio
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21:24<ap4lmtree>works great now . =)
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21:33<Z80>Hello?
21:33<Z80>Hello, World!
21:35<annadane>!ask
21:35<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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21:39<Z80>When I was using Ubuntu I used IntelliJ IDEA with several language plug-ins (Rust, D, Go, etc). I was getting IntelliJ though ppas, but Debian does not have ppas as far as I can tell. A) Is there a way to get ppas on Debian? B) Is there a good alternative to IntelliJ for Debian?
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21:41<petn-randall>MainFrame: You can download the tarball and unpack that.
21:41<ap4lmtree>iflema, do you code?
21:41<petn-randall>MainFrame: https://www.jetbrains.com/idea/download/
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21:41<MainFrame>Thank You
21:42<iflema>ap4lmtree: not really
21:42<ap4lmtree>i wish to code more
21:42<ap4lmtree>i thought you might be a contributer to the debian project
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21:42<iflema>nope
21:42<MainFrame>ap4lmtree: What languages do you know?
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21:44<ap4lmtree>MainFrame, c++ and java
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21:44<ap4lmtree>but i have never really codeded outside of the two classes i took to learn those
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21:45<petn-randall>ap4lmtree: There are many ways to contribute to Debian, not all of them require coding skills.
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21:47<MainFrame>ap4lmtree: If you are not set on contributing to Debian, there is a list of beginner friendly OSS projects here: https://github.com/MunGell/awesome-for-beginners. There are several C++ and Java projects there.
21:47<ap4lmtree>thanks
21:48<petn-randall>ap4lmtree: https://www.debian.org/intro/help
21:48<MainFrame>ap4lmtree: You're welcome
21:48<MainFrame>(assuming that was for me)
21:48<ap4lmtree>i think i can help debian by bashing trolling against mac, windows and ubuntu, no?
21:48<ap4lmtree>jk
21:49<MainFrame>ap4lmtree: Ubuntu is not that bad, (at least it is GNU/Linux)
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21:51<MainFrame>petn-randall: Thank you for that page, I might want it to.
21:51<MainFrame>too not to
21:56<MainFrame>I don't want to start a flame war or anything, but would it be a good idea to redesign the Debian website?
21:57<petn-randall>MainFrame: Contributions are always welcome ... :)
21:58<MainFrame>petn-randall: If I were to make such a thing were would put up the pages?
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21:59<petn-randall>MainFrame: Start by reading up on the team that manages it, and offer your help.
21:59<MainFrame>Thanks
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22:17<dw0>Anyone willing to help me fix my wifi card with Debian? Qualcomm Atheros AR93xx using ath9k driver. When connecting through network-manager-gnome, I keep getting prompted for a password and I never fully connect to the router. I noticed the error "wlp1s0: WPA: 4-Way Handshake failed - pre-shared key may be incorrect" in the system logs. The password is correct.
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22:19<petn-randall>dw0: Do you have firmware-atheros installed?
22:19<petn-randall>,v firmware-atheros
22:19<judd>Package: firmware-atheros on amd64 -- wheezy/non-free: 0.36+wheezy.1; wheezy-backports/non-free: 0.43~bpo70+1; jessie/non-free: 0.43; jessie-backports/non-free: 20161130-3~bpo8+1; sid/non-free: 20161130-3; buster/non-free: 20161130-3; stretch/non-free: 20161130-3
22:20<dw0>yes, but that driver doesn't affect my wifi card
22:22<petn-randall>dw0: How do you know?
22:22<dw0>I have "Atheros AR9382", it doesn't appear on the firmware-atheros package page
22:22<petn-randall>firmware is not a driver, it's a piece of code running on the device itself.
22:22<dw0>I have it installed, is there anything else I need to do?
22:23<petn-randall>dw0: You'd need to unload and reload the kernel module, easiest done by rebooting.
22:23<dw0>I've rebooted multiple times since installed it
22:26<petn-randall>dw0: Ok. Can you show the relevant parts from /var/log/daemon.log when you try to connect? You can paste it to http://paste.debian.net.
22:28<petn-randall>dw0: Also the output of 'dmesg | grep firmware' might be relevant.
22:31<dw0>http://paste.debian.net/979783/ and http://paste.debian.net/979785/
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22:32<petn-randall>thanks
22:33<petn-randall>dw0: This is WPA-PSK? Or WPA2-PSK?
22:34<dw0>WPA2-PSK AES
22:34<petn-randall>dw0: Then I don't know other than double-checking the password.
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22:35<dw0>I've checked the password far too many times. Been working at this for 6+ hours... Thanks for the help though.
22:35<petn-randall>dw0: Does the password by change only contain 0-9a-z?
22:35<petn-randall>s/change/chance/
22:36<petn-randall>Err, 0-9A-F, that is.
22:36<dw0>yes. Even if I remove the password, the connection seems to loop.
22:36<jmcnaugh1>dw0: the log sample logs from your second paste, are those an attempt with NetworkManager?
22:36<dw0>yes jmcnaugh1
22:37<dw0>The password contains characters outside of the 0-9A-F
22:37<petn-randall>dw0: Wait, this is /var/log/syslog, right? On which Debian release?
22:37<dw0>Debian stretch
22:38<dw0>It's the output of daemon.log
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22:38<petn-randall>dw0: Yeah ... that's not what I asked for.
22:38<dw0>Isn't it?
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22:39<petn-randall>Oh ... my bad. It's late here.
22:39<petn-randall>dw0: Can you show the relevant parts of /var/log/syslog?
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22:42<dw0>Here you go petn-randall, http://paste.debian.net/979787/
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22:46<petn-randall>dw0: Hmpf ... nothing is sticking out. I'd try connecting to another wifi AP, to see if it works in principle. And maybe use a wifi USB stick, so see if that works. Other than that, I'm out of ideas.
22:46<petn-randall>Sorry :S
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22:47<dw0>This is the second pci-e card I tested. Both are used, so maybe they are both faulty... I tried my two routers, same result.
22:50<jmcnaugh1>dw0: have you tried changing the SSID or verifying the MAC of the AP? What if there's another NETGEAR nearby? tried changing the pre-shared key?
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22:52<dw0>I've used a different unique SSID and have changed the password
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22:54<jmcnaugh1>the password is entered into the AP config and the computer using the same keyboard (layout)?
22:55<dw0>Even without a password, I can't connect. http://paste.debian.net/979788/
22:55<jimpop>argh...gparted the wrong device. Deleted all 3 partions, realized error, re-added partions from fdisk -l data in another term.
22:55<jimpop>now no bootable device detected
22:56<jimpop>ideas?
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23:02<annadane>jimpop, IIRC you need to create a partition table within gparted
23:02<annadane>someone correct me if this is wrong
23:03<annadane>though if you readded the partitions back...
23:03<jimpop>the partitions are correct, i can mount sda1-3
23:03<jimpop>bios just wont detect a bootable device
23:03<annadane>right
23:03<jimpop>part 1 is set as EFI too
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23:54<petn-randall>jimpop: Likely the UUIDs changed, so you have to fix up /etc/fstab, and probably also reinstall grub to the block device.
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23:57<jimpop>petn-randall: oooh, thx for that idea. i'll give it a try.
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