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#debian IRC Logs for 2017-08-04

---Logopened Fri Aug 04 00:00:39 2017
00:01-!-dw0 [~dw0@000266b2.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
00:01-!-dw0 is "David" on #debian
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00:02<dw0>petn-randall, I finally fixed the wifi issue. The BIOS were at fault and a quick flash fixed it up. Thanks for the help previously.
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00:03-!-Jojan is "Johan" on #debian
00:08<petn-randall>dw0: Oh, wow. Was it a laptop?
00:08<dw0>No, it's a mini-itx mobo though
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00:22-!-linuxmodder is "Corey Sheldon" on #cryptoparty #openstack #openbox #oftc #linux #kvm #irssi #ipv6 #https-everywhere #gcc #freenode #fosscar #fossology #ext4 #debian #Corsair #codesurfers #apparmor #smxi
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00:35-!-linuxmodder is "Corey Sheldon" on #smxi #apparmor #codesurfers #Corsair #debian #ext4 #fossology #fosscar #freenode #gcc #https-everywhere #ipv6 #irssi #kvm #linux #oftc #openbox #openstack #cryptoparty
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00:44-!-bestucan_ is "realname" on #debian
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00:46-!-jathan_ is "realname" on #debconf-video #debian #debian-android-tools #debian-systemd #debian-quebec #debian-publicity #debian-openstack #debian-offtopic #debian-ni #debian-next #debian-mysql #debian-mx #debian-mobile #debian-mentors-es #debian-mentors #debian-lxqt #debian-lts #debian-live #debian-l10n-spanish #debian-kbsd #debian-i18n #debian-fr #debian-es #debian-reproducible
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00:47-!-jathan_ is "realname" on #debconf-video #debian #debian-android-tools #debian-systemd #debian-quebec #debian-publicity #debian-openstack #debian-offtopic #debian-ni #debian-next #debian-mysql #debian-mx #debian-mobile #debian-mentors-es #debian-mentors #debian-lxqt #debian-lts #debian-live #debian-l10n-spanish #debian-kbsd #debian-i18n #debian-fr #debian-es #debian-reproducible
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01:52-!-debalance is "Philipp Huebner" on #debian #debian-devel-changes #debian-qa #debian-kde
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02:06-!-mufflon is "Mufflon,,," on #debian-next #debian
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05:51<kukuruzar>hi guys. Got a nwe machine, and am torn between Debian and Ubuntu LTS. Is there an alternative for ubuntu's hardware enablement in Debian?
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05:52<grawity>what does that do? drivers?
05:52<kukuruzar>grawity: yes, pretty much it's for drivers for newer stuff you buy
05:53<grawity>ehh, isn't 95% of that covered by updated kernels (and non-free firmware)?
05:53<sep>kukuruzar, if you need a newer driver i just use the kernel from backports
05:53<grawity>and the rest is nvidia's gpu driver
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05:53<kukuruzar>sep: and how well tested are backport kernels? you had any issues?
05:53<grawity>I don't remember which are the firmware-* metapackages for "literally everything"
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05:54<kukuruzar>grawity: that's how they do it, basically they update your kernel
05:54<sep>never had any issues.
05:54<grawity>kukuruzar: updating one's kernel is kind of a standard part of any distro though
05:54<kukuruzar>Well guys, that's kind of fantastic news :)
05:55<grawity>on Debian the same would be -backports for stable, or just outright use testing
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05:55<Anarka>usually kernel so maybe backports
05:55<Anarka>!backports
05:55<Anarka>meh :)
05:55<dpkg>A backport is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and <ABI> complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch02.en.html (2.7.4 and 2.7.10), http://backports.debian.org/ . Ask me about <debian-backports> and <backport caveat>. See also <simple sid backport>.
05:55<sep>but i have only been using debian since potato. and i only used backport kernel if i needed it for some reason. perhaps on 20-25 machines in total
05:55<kukuruzar>I'm leaning heavily towards Debian, as i like the concept of Debian Stable for my (blasphemy) desktop :)
05:55<kukuruzar>and this finally settles the final quirk i had :)
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05:57<sep>kukuruzar, i ususaly use stable for servers, debian testing on desktop/laptop.
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06:06<kukuruzar>sep: i don't like too constant changes, even on desktop, only backports for drivers and libreoffice are enough for me :)
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06:17<kukuruzar>i have only one more question regarding firefox ESR's. Will Firefox in stretch be updated immediately when the new ESR version of Firefox is available, or will it be until the end of life?
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06:19<jm_>kukuruzar: maybe check how it was handled in jessie (there it changed to ESR at one point IIRC)
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10:18<jimpop>petn-randall: fwiw i also had to reformat the EFI partition as vfat in order to reinstal grub. Also, the UUIDs didnt chamge.
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10:21<petn-randall>jimpop: What was it before?
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10:33<jimpop>vfat, but because its not normally mounted my earlier gparted activity was able to format that to ext4
10:34<jimpop>i was clearing old sdcards when i accidentially began to clear /dev/sda
10:35<jimpop>thanks again for the help.
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11:31<petn-randall>jimpop: You're welcome. Glad to see you could save that system. :)
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13:01<erwinpeters88>hi, could i get some help here with phpmyadmin on debian?
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13:01<itd>dselect: ask
13:01<dselect>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
13:04<erwinpeters88>i have problem with phpmyadmin on 9.2, it installs fine but when i try to log in as root is wont let me. im not sure if the problem is with blank passwords or logging in as root in general. in the mysql database there seems to be a passwordset, andi have tried this password but it is not accepted either. mysql lets me make changes regardless of which password i use for root. would anyone one know i can get logged in as root on php
13:05<DarkPi>Does any have any idea why when i try to list my ip tables rules it shows nothing ?
13:05<DarkPi>i did iptables -P input drop
13:06<DarkPi>but it doesnt show up when i do -L
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13:10<itd>erwinpeters88: Looks like you need to set "$cfg['Servers'][$i]['AllowNoPassword'] = true;" for phpmyadmin to allow empty passwords.
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13:11<erwinpeters88>i have that and i read that there are multiple places it should be in the config file, but it still doesn't allow me to do it
13:11<erwinpeters88>i also have AllowRoot
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13:15<g5r34>will a Xeon E3-1230 QC 3.20GHz run fine with the latest stable debian?
13:16<g5r34>any limitations/other issues?
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13:20<petn-randall>erwinpeters88: You probably shouldn't use phpmyadmin in the first place, it's full of security holes and generally not a good idea.
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13:23<erwinpeters88>its just for a development server as a temporary measure
13:24<BrainError404>I'm experiencing a problem with the dark theme in gnome, suddenly my windows hasn't the black bar anymore, how can I fix it?
13:24<g5r34>will a Xeon E3-1230 QC 3.20GHz run fine with the latest stable debian?
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13:27<react>g5r34: https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/
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13:28<annadane>g5r34, as react linked, it'd depend on your architecture
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13:28<annadane>debian is "the universal operating system" so it does work on a lot of devices
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13:29<g5r34>thanks
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13:29<react>g5r34: the question that you should ask yourself is "does the e3-1230 support the Intel 64 extension" which would inevitably lead you here: http://ark.intel.com/products/52271/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E3-1230-8M-Cache-3_20-GHz
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13:31<react>the powa' of google search
13:31<react>amirite or amirite
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13:36<erwinpeters88>anyone any thoights on my phpmyadmin problem?
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13:47<MainFrame>Are there any plans to package IntelliJ IDEA for Debian, if not how would I do it?
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13:50<Nemoder>!rfp
13:50<dpkg>Request For Package (RFP) is the way to ask for a piece of software to be included in Debian. See http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp, the section on that page "Adding new entries with "reportbug"" is a good place to start. Technically, a RFP is a wishlist bug filed against "wnpp" with a title beginning "RFP: ", ask me about <wnpp>. The best way of getting software packaged is to do it yourself: ask me about <nmg>.
13:51<itd>judd: bug 747616
13:51<judd>Bug http://bugs.debian.org/747616 in wnpp (open): «RFP: intellij-idea -- An integrated development environment for Java and other Java VM languages»; severity: wishlist; opened: 2014-05-10; last modified: 2014-11-25.
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14:07<BrainError404>Like I said, I'm experiencing a problem with the dark theme in gnome, suddenly my windows hasn't the black bar anymore, how can I fix it?
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14:13<g5r34>@react thanks for the info, so i can safely assume its fine.
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14:26<B0rk_Meister666>Hi folks. I bought a new toy (Alfa AWUS036ACH) and it has a RTL8812AU chipset. I see that Kali already has a package for that driver. Debian doesn't... as far as I can tell. Two part question: 1) Is there a package with the driver already prebuilt served on a repository somehwere? 2) Will I have to do ths one solo, and follow the directions posted here https://www.erol.name/compile-realtek-rtl8812au8821au-usb-wifi-driver-debian-jessie/ ?
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14:27<sney>B0rk_Meister666: do you have a pciid for that?
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14:28<sney>(minor quibble: wifi "drivers" are almost always already in the kernel, they just need separate firmware blobs in order to work)
14:28<B0rk_Meister666>bda:8812
14:28<B0rk_Meister666>sorry 0bda:8812
14:28<B0rk_Meister666>when i do a lsusb
14:28<sney>ah, usb, dang. database isn't as good for those
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14:29<B0rk_Meister666>its a 802.11n usb wifi
14:29<B0rk_Meister666>i thought i'd buy it and play around with it.
14:29<Nemoder>'apt-file search rtl8812' returns: firmware-realtek: /lib/firmware/rtl_bt/rtl8812ae_fw.bin
14:30<sney>^
14:30<B0rk_Meister666>Kali has a package built for it, as it can do packet injection on the 802.11n freq
14:30<sney>google says Realtek 8723/8812/8821 PCIe drivers are in Linux 3.17.8 and later.
14:30<B0rk_Meister666>this is au, not ae
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14:30<sney>that probably includes the usb ones too. debian jessie howtos are quite old at this point
14:30<B0rk_Meister666>ae is bluetooth?
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14:31<B0rk_Meister666>I'm also running debian stretch, stable... if that helps
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14:31<sney>kali is very close to debian (dev-wise, though anyone will tell you it isn't supported here) - it's possible the kali package, whatever it is, can be rebuilt on debian stable
14:32<B0rk_Meister666>yeah, i was thinking along those same lines
14:32<sney>do you have the name of the package?
14:32<B0rk_Meister666>realtek-rtl88xxau-dkms
14:33<sney>catchy.
14:33*sney pokes around
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14:35<sney>yeah basically no build-deps so it should work
14:35<B0rk_Meister666>I mean, push comes to shove... this article's instructions are pretty straight forward https://www.erol.name/compile-realtek-rtl8812au8821au-usb-wifi-driver-debian-jessie/
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14:35<sney>I wouldn't use a howto for a previous debian version, there are a lot of differences between jessie and stretch
14:35<B0rk_Meister666>ah
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14:36<B0rk_Meister666>so, just use the Kali package
14:36<B0rk_Meister666>since there are no deps
14:36<sney>nono
14:36<sney>build-deps. please read all
14:36<B0rk_Meister666>build-deps
14:36<sney>follow these instructions: https://wiki.debian.org/SimpleBackportCreation
14:36<B0rk_Meister666>ok, will do!
14:36<sney>with this dsc http://http.kali.org/pool/contrib/r/realtek-rtl88xxau-dkms/realtek-rtl88xxau-dkms_4.3.21~20170330-0kali1.dsc
14:37<B0rk_Meister666>you the man (or woman?)! Thanks!
14:37<sney>np, let us know if you get stuck.
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14:49<B0rk_Meister666>holy moly, 'packaging-dev' has about a hundred deps that also need to install.
14:50<B0rk_Meister666>206 to be exact....
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14:57<chicognu>I rent a vps, it use openvz, and i cant update the kernel. the most recent debian version on that vps is wheezy, there is any point to do a apt-get dist upgrade or it can broke the system ?
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14:58<petn-randall>chicognu: It could break, yes.
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15:04<chicognu>I will let as it is... the servers I use I compiled from source, and the debian packages are still getting security updates...
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15:06<creepee>Hi, does anyone here know the difference between "Small" and "Tiny" CDs in https://www.debian.org/distrib/netinst.en.html ?
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15:17<ach>well tiny smaller
15:18<creepee>ach: But what does it left out?
15:19<creepee>ach: Also, it takes me to http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/dists/stretch/main/installer-amd64/current/images/ and there are no ISOs in there
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15:19<ach>i don't know but i would use a full DVD set and plug the computer when it's finished
15:20<creepee>ach: What do you mean 'plug'?
15:20<creepee>ach: I want something small, but I want to know the exact difference
15:21<ach>i sorry but just try debian life
15:22<ach>oh terminal just
15:22<creepee>ach: What? Do you mean Debian Live? That is a 1.8 G ISO
15:22<ach>but also unnecassary you could choose through package manager while you install the packages gone installed
15:23<creepee>ach: You can choose everything it installs while you are installing?
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15:24<creepee>ach: Do you think you can get something like the 39MB 'mini' ISO from a 1.8 G Live ISO?
15:24<ach>just download debian DVD and do while you install run shell in system and you could while the install delete the unneeded packages
15:24<creepee>ach: Because that would be amazing
15:24<ach>yes
15:24<ach>i would load a dvd and shrimp it
15:25<diefi>somewhat I have problems to get my icons back on the desktop since the upgrade to stretch. All the settings are correct looking at Tweak Tool
15:25<creepee>ach: But deleting hundreds of packages is harder that installing a few, that's why I want to start small
15:25<ach>cause a option is in the install process
15:26<diefi>they are still listed if I look at the nautilus desktop folder
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15:26<ach>i would think a standard installation is not that huge and you mustn't have desktop
15:27<diefi>are you talking to me?
15:27<ach>no
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15:28<ach>no but possibly true you can get a that small debian
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15:30<creepee>ach: But it's not about space, it's about not installing things I don't need
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15:34<ach>yeah then would not swtich from not desktop and use a standard debian as delete it is any some package to much if you understand it don't equal if you need a package or not you just need the software the function you need
15:36<ach>i don't have problems with packages on the hd and can change such shit it's luck if Computer can change without operation system is broken
15:39<creepee>ach: Thank you
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15:47<Maarten_>i added a (USB connected) harddisk to fstab, now when every i bootup and its not connected it will not complete bootup.. if i remove from fstab when ever i connect the harddisk it will be auto mounted to /media/$USER/ ... is their a way to have the system recognize my disk and mount to redefined path but not hang on boot when it is not connected?
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15:51<sney>Maarten_: you can put 'noauto' as an option in fstab, so it won't try to mount unless you issue a 'mount mountpoint'
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15:54<ranix>!z24
15:54<ranix>dang where are apt and dmesg
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15:55<Maarten_>sney: ah oke... thanks.... will it be possible to somehow triger auto mount on connecting the usb-disk
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15:57<sney>Maarten_: not sure, possibly another mount option. I don't have them memorized but they should be searchable
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16:04<Maarten_>sney: can i do this: defaults,noauto .. or does default exclude noauto?
16:05<sney>it might. try it.
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16:07<Maarten_>oke.. thanks...
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16:30<ElToro-Y-ElCuernos>Does Debian 9 have the drivers for Intel Wireless 7265 (rev 61)?
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16:35<ElToro-Y-ElCuernos>I suppose all that is needed is to get the 9.1.0-live+nonfree/ image boot and see if wifi works before installing.
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17:02<ElToro-Y-ElCuernos>Does anyone here have experience downloading Debian on a laptop without an ethernet port?
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17:02<annadane>!anyone
17:02<dpkg>Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>.
17:02<sney>(your question is probably about wifi firmware)
17:03<sney>!firmware image
17:03<dpkg>Unofficial <netinst> and DVD installer images containing non-free Debian firmware packages are available for installing Debian 9 "Stretch". See http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/ and ask me about <install guide>.
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18:54<Guest1234>Is there some way to configure Debian so that running `./example.jar` from the bash shell would run it via Java? As if `java -jar` was the interpreter for .jar files?
18:54<annadane>i believe that
18:54<annadane>oops
18:55<annadane>i believe that's just a matter of setting it as the default file association? just assign java to .jar files
18:55<Guest1234>annadane: Via what mechanism?
18:56<nitsua>can u edit the .jar and add a header like #!/usr/bin/java
18:56<nitsua>or is a .jar strictly binary
18:58<Guest1234>JARs are binary.
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19:00<dondelelcaro>Guest1234: generally, the method is to write a ./example which does exec java -jar ./example.jar
19:01<annadane>i completely misread your question...
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19:04<annadane>anyway, try java -jar foo.jar
19:05<jmcnaught>Guest1234: you could do this with binfmt_misc but I don't know much more about it besides that Linux has this feature
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19:09<aidalgol>jmcnaught: Ah, right. binfmt is what I'm after. Thanks!
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20:12<waltervargas[m]>what recommendation do we have if anybody/newcomer is requesting a book/article about Debian for a Laptop in 2017?
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20:20<jmcnaught>waltervargas[m]: buy something used or last year's model. Debian takes some time to catch up to bleeding edge hardware
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20:23<waltervargas[m]>I am a former user of Thinkpad X Series, and Debian is running smoothly there.
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20:28<annadane>i suppose you can also buy linux specific hardware
20:29<waltervargas[m]>but my question is not related to Hardware, there are few new debian users at this days, people comming from Ubuntu to Debian, mainly developers, when they are asking me What Debian Book/Guide do you suggest to follow with the goal of have a good desktop environment based on Debian for Laptops my recommendation is https://debian-handbook.info/browse/stable/
20:30<annadane>yeah i mean any of the official debian documentation applies just as much to laptops
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20:30<waltervargas[m]>but I am not sure if my answer is good.
20:31<waltervargas[m]>there is another resource: https://wiki.debian.org/DebianDesktopHowTo
20:31<jmcnaught>https://www.debian.org/doc/
20:32<annadane>the issue with the administrator handbook of course is that it hasn't been updated to stretch
20:32<waltervargas[m]>even, I have some good org-mode notes about Debian on Dell Precision 5510 (8 Xeon Cores, with TouchScreen 4k Display)
20:32<waltervargas[m]>how can I contribute to Debian Wiki?
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20:32<waltervargas[m]>annadane: correct
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20:36<waltervargas[m]>jmcnaught: thank you, I know the Debian - Documentation website.
20:37<jmcnaught>waltervargas[m]: I'm saying why not give these new Debian users that link?
20:38<jmcnaught>if you're only going to give one link, that one makes the most sense
20:39<waltervargas[m]>is the debian/doc path infrastructure having a load spike?
20:39*waltervargas[m] sent a long message: waltervargas[m]_2017-08-05_00:39:49.txt <https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/lKUCTMpEunbDHHmMrrTYYcpk>
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21:19<DarkPi>anyone ever have the issue of ip tables not listing rules ?
21:19<sney>DarkPi: cut it out
21:19<petn-randall>DarkPi: Are you running Debian?
21:19<DarkPi>Yes
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21:20<petn-randall>DarkPi: which version?
21:20<DarkPi>9
21:20<DarkPi>i think
21:20<DarkPi>idk it was an old install
21:20<sney>bullshit
21:20<coruja>then find out first
21:21<petn-randall>DarkPi: Can you paste the output of 'apt-cache policy iptables' to http://paste.debian.net?
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21:21<coruja>petn-randall, good move ;)
21:21<DarkPi>not this second i locked it down to the point im reinstalling i tried -X and -F
21:21<DarkPi>with no luck
21:22<petn-randall>DarkPi: Let us know when you have the paste ready.
21:22<DarkPi>ok will do
21:22<DarkPi>;)
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21:23<DarkPi>all that aside have you had this issue before
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21:23<annadane>!anyone
21:23<dpkg>Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>.
21:23<sney>!they dont know
21:24<sney>rgh
21:24<sney>!they don't know
21:24<dpkg>We're sorry your distro's channel isn't being helpful, but that doesn't make it appropriate to use #debian for non-Debian questions. Please go back to your channel and wait patiently for better help, or install Debian and party with us.
21:24<sney>^
21:24<DarkPi>im just trying to figure out how to fix the issue
21:24<meajude>hi guys. I need help. I want use a usb stick to install debian, and a second partition to storage archives. I tried debian documentation instructions, but without success.
21:24<annadane>if it's for debian, we can help
21:24<annadane>if not...
21:24<annadane>!based on debian
21:24<dpkg>Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare http://futurist.se/gldt/). #debian only supports Debian and pure <blend>s; please respect our choice to volunteer here to help Debian users. Support for other distributions is off-topic on #debian, even if your own distro's channel is clueless or non-existent.
21:24<petn-randall>DarkPi: Then stop wasting our time and be cooperative.
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21:24<sney>then go to #netfilter or ##linux on freenode, as you have been told before
21:24<sney>why is that haree
21:24<sney>hard*
21:24<DarkPi>petn-randall: its not a waste
21:25<DarkPi>petn-randall: I put alot of time into this thing
21:25<petn-randall>DarkPi: Then provide the paste please.
21:25<DarkPi>and am now having tto redo
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21:25<petn-randall>DarkPi: I don't care if you're wasting *your* time, but I care about if you're wasting *my* time.
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21:26<sney>DarkPi: the people in this channel are other debian users, who are volunteers who support debian in our free time. We're not here to cater to the whim of any derivative user who thinks they are special. Please respect the rules of the channel and go to the correct place.
21:26<DarkPi>petn-randall: beleieve me ill have debian reinstalled then whats the excuse
21:27<sney>if you are having this problem on a debian system then you will get support here. if it's actually debian anyway, and not raspbian
21:27<DarkPi>sney: trust me it will be debian
21:27<sney>differences between distros can cause differences in what problems present and why and what we can do to help. this is not very complicated
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21:28<coruja>DarkPi, then come back when it _is_ debian
21:28<DarkPi>sney: if i have to install debian to get support i will
21:28<sney>yes that is what we have been telling you
21:28<annadane>DarkPi, if your problem is on a system and you're installing debian solely to fix it for debian when your main system is *not* debian... doesn't make sense
21:28<sney>reading comprehension is your friend.
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21:29<annadane>why don't you ask your distro's support forum or similar, and don't come back here because they don't know or aren't answering. find another venue
21:29<DarkPi>annadane: I like debian much smarter guys over here
21:29<annadane>for fuck sake
21:30<annadane>i give up
21:30<DarkPi>annadane: even though i seem catch a bunch of flak
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21:30<sney>lol. if he does install debian, and proves that he's not just lying to get support like he said he was going to do, then why not help
21:30<annadane>that's entirely possible.
21:30<sney>probably not me because I need food but someone will on an actual debian system as long as he doesn't get banned before that
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21:31<petn-randall>I'm guessing the problem won't exist on Debian, so ...
21:31<DarkPi>calm down im gonna load debian
21:31<petn-randall>I'm 99.9% sure :)
21:32<annadane>on a fresh debian install the problem likely won't exist due to it being a fresh install
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21:32<annadane>unless it's already loaded
21:32<annadane>but anyway
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21:32<annadane>i'm not going to comment further
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21:35<annadane>meajude, afraid i'm not sure, perhaps someone else knows
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21:35<jmcnaught>meajude: what are you trying to store on the second partition?
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21:37<zeus42>what's the question?
21:37<zeus42>curious
21:39<annadane>"hi guys. I need help. I want use a usb stick to install debian, and a second partition to storage archives. I tried debian documentation instructions, but without success."
21:39*nitsua takes off shoe, hits self on head with shoe
21:40<nitsua>wouldnt that be like #unetbootin
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21:40<annadane>unetbootin is not recommended
21:40<petn-randall>meajude: That will unfortunately not work on the same USB stick. The installer overwrites any existing partition tables. That is needed for it to be bootable.
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21:40<petn-randall>meajude: The only way is using a dedicated USB thumb drive for the installer, and a separate one for files.
21:41<zeus42>couldnt you manually partition it, first bootable partition as fat32
21:41<zeus42>open the iso in a loopback device
21:41<zeus42>copy over the files
21:41<zeus42>have another partition as another fat32 or ext4 partition, depending on which OS you want to access the data with?
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21:42<zeus42>though i guess the loopback thing would mean having another linux box, or a mac
21:42<petn-randall>!tias
21:42<dpkg>TIAS is "Try It And See".
21:43<petn-randall>TL;DR: It won't work, because that's not how the boot process works.
21:46<meajude>zeus42: I want access the data from debian
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21:51<zeus42>meajude, maybe it would be better to use OneDrive or Google Drive to store stuff?
21:51<zeus42>I'm sure that would be much less complicated
21:52<zeus42>then restore the data to the USB drive if you want a local copy
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21:54<nitsua>u could also use dd, dd if=bla.bla of=/dev/usb0
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21:57<waltervargas[m]>cp installer.iso /dev/sdb
21:57<waltervargas[m]>sync
21:58<sney>yes that's how to write the installer to usb, but doesn't give meajude what he's looking for
21:58<meajude>nitsua: I did it, but it did not work either.
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22:00<meajude>waltervargas[m]: I did it too, but it not work again.
22:01<waltervargas[m]>meajude (IRC): do you run `sync` ?
22:01<waltervargas[m]>After `cp`
22:01<waltervargas[m]>?
22:01<meajude>waltervargas[m]: Yes, I run sync.
22:02<waltervargas[m]>Maybe a problem at layer 0 ?
22:02<waltervargas[m]>Try with a different pendrive
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22:04<meajude>waltervargas[m]: I can install debian when using a single partition. The problem is when I use a second one to store files.
22:05<meajude>waltervargas[m]: my issue is other.
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22:06<waltervargas[m]>I see
22:06<waltervargas[m]>I can give a try tomorrow
22:06<waltervargas[m]>Using two partitions
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22:08<meajude>waltervargas[m]: thank you my friend
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22:09<meajude>Thank you all, I'll be back tomorrow.
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22:16<android>!seen adamvex
22:16<dpkg>android: i haven't seen 'adamvex'
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22:27<annadane>you misspelled his name
22:43<android>brafiezed
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22:43<android>feasibild code inflation
22:43<android>something frome nothing
22:44<android>clucid links
22:45<android>I cannot mispell.
22:45<annadane>please don't spam the channel
22:45<android>unly the.interface can fail
22:45*android breathes
22:46<android>check the vader valves
22:46<android>1
22:46<annadane>!ops spam
22:46<dpkg>Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: annadane complains about: spam
22:46<android>INTSIG 1
22:46<android>I send you a gift.
22:47<android>:-)
22:47<android>The rizon gift.
22:47<android>recieve it well
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23:00<n0rthlight>Is there a way to had a line to sources.list with shell?
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23:01<n0rthlight>I read around and could not get clear information.
23:02<jcrain>n0rthlight: echo "text" >> /etc/apt/sources.list
23:02<n0rthlight>Thank you. I dislike nano and sudo gedit seems to be not recommended :)
23:04<n0rthlight>Permission denied?
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23:05<jcrain>you have to do that as root
23:06<n0rthlight>Yeah I did
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23:06<jcrain>real root or sudo? sudo won't work well with shell redirection.
23:07<n0rthlight>Oh.
23:08<jcrain>you could try 'echo "text" | sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list' if you want to use sudo
23:08<f>hiii
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23:09<n0rthlight>this gonna sound noob but whats the difference with real and sudo ?
23:09<n0rthlight>I looked up could not find info so far.
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23:10<jcrain>in 'sudo echo text >> file', the >> for append output to file executes as your normal user, not under sudo
23:10<jcrain>only the 'echo text' part executes under sudo
23:10<n0rthlight>yeah meant you told me in real root ?
23:10<n0rthlight>whats the differenc with real root and sudo >
23:10<n0rthlight>?
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23:14<jcrain>the're the same other than that sudo doesn't apply to the redirected shell output
23:14<n0rthlight>Oh i see.\
23:14<n0rthlight>Well it work. Thanks for your patience and help.
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23:36<sky_king>What do I need to install a newer kernel from backports in jessie 8.9? I need it to run firmware for a wifi adapter I have already added backports to my sources list.
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23:37<sky_king>I have actually never used backports before.
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23:40<sky_king>Will it work ok if I just pick a linux image?
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