Back to Home / #debian / 2017 / 08 / Prev Day | Next Day
#debian IRC Logs for 2017-08-08

---Logopened Tue Aug 08 00:00:27 2017
---Daychanged Tue Aug 08 2017
00:00-!-Valvalion [~Valvalion@91.180.141.177] has quit [Quit: Quitte]
00:00-!-Strife89 [~quassel@adsl-98-80-187-58.mcn.bellsouth.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
00:06-!-xpark [~xpark@189.202.85.207.cable.dyn.cableonline.com.mx] has joined #debian
00:06-!-xpark is "realname" on #debian
00:07-!-gkt [~gkt@017.d.003.ncl.iprimus.net.au] has joined #debian
00:07-!-gkt is "gkt" on #debian @#debian_mentors
00:13-!-platvoeten [~platvoete@178-85-122-247.dynamic.upc.nl] has joined #debian
00:13-!-platvoeten is "Platvoeten" on #debian
00:14-!-xpark [~xpark@189.202.85.207.cable.dyn.cableonline.com.mx] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
00:15-!-gkt [~gkt@017.d.003.ncl.iprimus.net.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
00:16-!-gkt [~gkt@017.d.003.ncl.iprimus.net.au] has joined #debian
00:16-!-gkt is "gkt" on #debian @#debian_mentors
00:17-!-rbalint [~rbalint@216.113.46.194] has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
00:18-!-rbalint [~rbalint@216.113.46.194] has joined #debian
00:18-!-rbalint is "purple" on #debian
00:24-!-^Q-Master^ [~q-master@2.93.110.84] has joined #debian
00:24-!-^Q-Master^ is "Vladimir Berezenko" on #debian-next #debianppc #debian
00:30-!-KOJIbKA [~nikobit@188.124.242.35] has quit [Quit: KOJIbKA]
00:31-!-Q-Master [~q-master@93-81-56-161.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
00:35-!-tahity [~tahity@2a01:e35:2f62:ec40:1202:b5ff:fe9f:cc7f] has joined #debian
00:35-!-tahity is "TAHITY" on #debian
00:35-!-tahity [~tahity@2a01:e35:2f62:ec40:1202:b5ff:fe9f:cc7f] has quit []
00:37-!-rbalint [~rbalint@216.113.46.194] has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
00:37-!-rbalint [~rbalint@216.113.46.194] has joined #debian
00:37-!-rbalint is "purple" on #debian
00:41-!-bw123 [~b17@108.102.62.96] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
00:44-!-tetrapovicc [~trifyl@2a01:cb19:85b4:db00:224:8cff:fe4f:fe7d] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
00:45-!-rbalint [~rbalint@216.113.46.194] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
00:47-!-Jojan [~Jojan@90-229-214-144-no98.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
00:52-!-pusheen [~pup@96-127-193-249.qc.cable.ebox.net] has joined #debian
00:52-!-pusheen is "Unknown" on #debian
00:52-!-ansel [~ansel@tmo-123-192.customers.d1-online.com] has joined #debian
00:52-!-ansel is "Andreas Seltenreich" on #debian-mentors #debian-ha #debian
00:55-!-mully [~davidff@ppp109-252-50-84.pppoe.spdop.ru] has quit [Quit: mully]
00:55-!-vkrishn [~vkrishn@117.198.43.76] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
00:56-!-jm_ [flier@000125af.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
00:56-!-jm_ is "." on #debian #debian-ops
01:02-!-thunderrd__ [~thunderrd@61.7.181.117] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
01:04-!-thunderrd__ [~thunderrd@159.192.197.164] has joined #debian
01:04-!-thunderrd__ is "realname" on #aptosid #ck #debian #siduction @#GamersOnLinux #oftc
01:05-!-vkrishn [~vkrishn@117.198.42.129] has joined #debian
01:05-!-vkrishn is "vkrishn" on #debian #debconf
01:10-!-larryg [~larryg@cpe-68-203-44-169.gt.res.rr.com] has joined #debian
01:10-!-larryg is "realname" on #debian
01:10-!-larryg [~larryg@cpe-68-203-44-169.gt.res.rr.com] has quit []
01:12-!-lucascastro [~lucas@186.227.186.18] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
01:13-!-oalvarez [~alvarezp@189-212-141-164.static.axtel.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
01:15-!-thunderrd__ [~thunderrd@159.192.197.164] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
01:22-!-thunderrd [~thunderrd@thunderrd.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
01:22-!-thunderrd is "realname" on #oftc #tor @#GamersOnLinux #siduction #debian #ck #aptosid
01:24-!-sidmo [~ilven@p5B24E0C9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
01:26-!-debalance [~quassel@aftr-88-153-7-112.unity-media.net] has joined #debian
01:26-!-debalance is "Philipp Huebner" on #debian-devel-changes #debian-qa #debian #debian-kde
01:27-!-sidmo [~ilven@p5B24E0C9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #debian
01:27-!-sidmo is "sidmo" on #debian-systemd #debian-next #debian-offtopic #debian-kde #debian
01:29-!-pusheen [~pup@96-127-193-249.qc.cable.ebox.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
01:32-!-gkt [~gkt@017.d.003.ncl.iprimus.net.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
01:32-!-gkt [~gkt@017.d.003.ncl.iprimus.net.au] has joined #debian
01:32-!-gkt is "gkt" on #debian @#debian_mentors
01:33-!-paelzer [~paelzer@202-062-210-188.ip-addr.inexio.net] has joined #debian
01:33-!-paelzer is "Christian Ehrhardt" on #virt #debian #debian-qemu
01:34-!-rovonovo_zoro [uid229900@id-229900.charlton.irccloud.com] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity]
01:40-!-OERIAS [~OERIAS@47.137.234.90] has joined #debian
01:40-!-OERIAS is "OERIAS" on #debian-mate #debian
01:42-!-thunderrd_ [~thunderrd@110.77.239.207] has joined #debian
01:42-!-thunderrd_ is "realname" on #aptosid #ck #debian #siduction #GamersOnLinux #oftc
01:46-!-debalance [~quassel@00017b9a.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
01:47-!-thunderrd [~thunderrd@thunderrd.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
01:48-!-debalance [~quassel@aftr-88-153-7-112.unity-media.net] has joined #debian
01:48-!-debalance is "Philipp Huebner" on #debian-devel-changes #debian-qa #debian-kde #debian
01:53-!-rkta [~kt@p5DE86A91.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
01:56-!-sunilmohan_ [~quassel@183.83.201.52] has joined #debian
01:56-!-sunilmohan_ is "Sunil Mohan Adapa" on #debian-arm #debian-blends #freedombox #debian-boot #debian #debian-js #monkeysphere #debian-in #pere #debian-webapps #osdg-iiith #debian-reproducible
01:56-!-mufflon [~quassel@77-255-66-29.adsl.inetia.pl] has joined #debian
01:56-!-mufflon is "Mufflon,,," on #debian-next #debian
02:01-!-sunilmohan [~quassel@183.83.201.52] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
02:04-!-alanz [~smuxi@165.255.74.172] has joined #debian
02:04-!-alanz is "Your Name" on #debian #smuxi
02:08-!-debalance [~quassel@00017b9a.user.oftc.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
02:08-!-debalance [~quassel@aftr-88-153-7-112.unity-media.net] has joined #debian
02:08-!-debalance is "Philipp Huebner" on #debian-devel-changes #debian #debian-kde #debian-qa
02:11-!-arturo [~aborrero@r2d2.cica.es] has joined #debian
02:11-!-arturo is "Arturo Borrero Gonzalez" on #debian-outreach #debian-netfilter #debian-ftp #debian-devel-es #debian-ha #debian-mentors #debian-qa #debian-next #debian-es #debian
02:11-!-jipege1 [~quassel@170-135-190-109.isp.overthebox.ovh] has joined #debian
02:11-!-jipege1 is "zaza,,," on #debian-publicity #debian-doc #debian-l10n-fr #debian-i18n #debian #debian-www
02:16-!-f_g [~fgruenbic@212-186-127-178.static.upcbusiness.at] has joined #debian
02:16-!-f_g is "fgruenbichler" on #debian-zfs #debian
02:18-!-debalance [~quassel@00017b9a.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
02:19-!-debalance [~quassel@aftr-88-153-7-112.unity-media.net] has joined #debian
02:19-!-debalance is "Philipp Huebner" on #debian-kde #debian #debian-devel-changes #debian-qa
02:20-!-ol [~quassel@2406:e006:2b99:1:8e89:a5ff:feca:57fe] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
02:27-!-solarwind [~eezee@000264a4.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
02:27-!-solarwind is "realname" on #moocows #debian
02:31-!-squat [~squat@cc.reitmeir.org] has quit [Quit: squat]
02:32-!-a2 [~jlbg@47.59.118.39] has joined #debian
02:32-!-a2 is "realname" on #debian-es #kernelnewbies #freebsd #debian
02:33-!-Valvalion [~Valvalion@91.183.209.169] has joined #debian
02:33-!-Valvalion is "Valvalion" on #debian
02:34-!-thunderrd__ [~thunderrd@159.192.197.244] has joined #debian
02:34-!-thunderrd__ is "realname" on #aptosid #ck #debian #siduction #GamersOnLinux #oftc
02:36-!-mufflon [~quassel@77-255-66-29.adsl.inetia.pl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
02:37-!-valessio [uid150324@00012203.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity]
02:39-!-sqirrrl [~quassel@firey.lsexperts.de] has joined #debian
02:39-!-sqirrrl is "Mirko Ahnert" on #debian
02:39-!-illwieckz [~illwieckz@37.169.165.151] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
02:39-!-thunderrd_ [~thunderrd@110.77.239.207] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
02:41-!-squat [~squat@cc.reitmeir.org] has joined #debian
02:41-!-squat is "squat" on #debian
02:43-!-bnw [~bnw@119.137.53.74] has joined #debian
02:43-!-bnw is "realname" on #dot #debian-zh #debian #debian-next
02:45-!-debalance [~quassel@00017b9a.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
02:47-!-ansel [~ansel@tmo-123-192.customers.d1-online.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
02:58-!-solarwind [~eezee@000264a4.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: t's now time to walk the dog.]
03:01-!-sunilmohan [~quassel@183.83.201.52] has joined #debian
03:01-!-sunilmohan is "Sunil Mohan Adapa" on #monkeysphere #debian-blends #debian-js #debian-in #debian-webapps #pere #osdg-iiith #debian-reproducible #debian #debian-arm #debian-boot #freedombox
03:03-!-ao2 [~ao2@host94-151-dynamic.53-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #debian
03:03-!-ao2 is "ao2" on #debian #cell
03:04-!-petru_ [~petru@188.24.8.235] has joined #debian
03:04-!-petru_ is "Petru Trimbitas" on #debian-kde #debian
03:04-!-DNS [~DNS777@000198d4.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in]
03:05-!-sunilmohan__ [~quassel@183.83.201.52] has joined #debian
03:05-!-sunilmohan__ is "Sunil Mohan Adapa" on #pere #debian-boot #debian #osdg-iiith #debian-js #debian-in #debian-reproducible #debian-webapps #debian-arm #monkeysphere #freedombox #debian-blends
03:05-!-babilen [~babilen@185.22.222.210] has joined #debian
03:05-!-babilen is "Wolodja Wentland" on #debian-clojure #debian-cloud #debian-salt #debian-systemd #vcs-home #debian-ctte #debconf #oftc #debian-ops #debian-offtopic #debian-next #debian-mentors #debian-java #debian #debian-bugs
03:06-!-linuxenko [~sveta@host-176-37-12-6.la.net.ua] has joined #debian
03:06-!-linuxenko is "sveta" on #debian
03:07-!-sunilmohan_ [~quassel@183.83.201.52] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
03:08-!-maddog226 [~maddog226@cpc121560-lewi23-2-0-cust385.2-4.cable.virginm.net] has joined #debian
03:08-!-maddog226 is "maddog226uk" on #debian
03:09-!-maddog226 [~maddog226@cpc121560-lewi23-2-0-cust385.2-4.cable.virginm.net] has quit []
03:09-!-holmgren [magnus@h-70-93.A163.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
03:10-!-sunilmohan [~quassel@183.83.201.52] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
03:10-!-Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87] has joined #debian
03:10-!-Haudegen is "AP,,," on #debian #debian-kde #debian-next
03:11-!-Pawel [~on@imo178.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #debian
03:11-!-Pawel is "realname" on #debian
03:12<Pawel>hello to All beginner with chat
03:12<Pawel>is there any way to get some help about little more complicated matter
03:12<Pawel>?
03:13-!-Wyzard [~mike@pool-68-134-4-246.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
03:14-!-srtu [~hypnotoad@i59F447EF.versanet.de] has joined #debian
03:14-!-srtu is "Armin M\xFCller" on #debian
03:15-!-Pawel [~on@imo178.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has quit []
03:18<Gabriel_7>!ask
03:18<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
03:19-!-skitt [~skitt@skitt.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
03:19-!-skitt is "Stephen Kitt" on #debian #debian-ftp
03:25-!-DrZaius [~kusanagi@201.165.35.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #debian
03:25-!-DrZaius is "realname" on #debconf #debconf-talkroom1 #debconf-talkroom2 #debian #debian-boot #debian-bugs #debian-es #debian-games #debian-gnome #debian-kde #debian-meeting #debian-mentors #debian-next #debian-nl #debian-perl #freedombox #tor #virt #debconf-subs #debian-devel-es #debian-systemd #debian-lts #debconf-video #debconf16-menzies-10 #debconf16-menzies-12 #debconf16-menzies-9 #debian-offtopic
03:30-!-preview [~quassel@2407:7000:842d:4000::3] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
03:31-!-yoav [~yoav@77.138.229.187] has joined #debian
03:31-!-yoav is "Yoav" on #debian
03:31-!-yoav [~yoav@77.138.229.187] has quit []
03:32-!-preview [~quassel@2407:7000:842d:4000::3] has joined #debian
03:32-!-preview is "preview" on #debian
03:32-!-DNS [~DNS777@88it.de] has joined #debian
03:32-!-DNS is "DNS777" on #debian-www #debian-systemd #debian-offtopic #debian-next #debian-mentors #debian-hurd #guardianproject #debian #debian-gnome
03:36-!-DNS [~DNS777@000198d4.user.oftc.net] has quit []
03:36-!-DNS [~DNS777@88it.de] has joined #debian
03:36-!-DNS is "DNS777" on #debian-www #debian-systemd #debian-offtopic #debian-next #debian-mentors #debian-hurd #guardianproject #debian #debian-gnome
03:37-!-narcan [~narcan@176-57-33-240.as16211.net] has joined #debian
03:37-!-narcan is "Denis Briand" on #debconf17-potato #debconf17-woody #debconf17-buzz #debconf17-bo #debconf17-rex #debian-mentors #debian-next #debian-offtopic #debian-france #debian
03:38-!-s-mutin [~s-mutin@85.234.114.134] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
03:38-!-s-mutin [~s-mutin@85.234.114.134] has joined #debian
03:38-!-s-mutin is "Sergey A. Mutin" on #debian #qemu #bitrig
03:40-!-s-mutin [~s-mutin@85.234.114.134] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
03:40-!-s-mutin [~s-mutin@85.234.114.134] has joined #debian
03:40-!-s-mutin is "Sergey A. Mutin" on #debian #qemu #bitrig
03:42-!-jmux [~jmux@194.113.41.246] has joined #debian
03:42-!-jmux is "Jan-Marek Glogowski" on #debian
03:43-!-DarkPi [~darkknigh@cpe-174-103-189-202.wi.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
03:45-!-srtu_ [~hypnotoad@i59F44627.versanet.de] has joined #debian
03:45-!-srtu_ is "Armin M\xFCller" on #debian
03:46-!-srtu__ [~hypnotoad@i59F44A8B.versanet.de] has joined #debian
03:46-!-srtu__ is "Armin M\xFCller" on #debian
03:51-!-srtu [~hypnotoad@i59F447EF.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
03:51-!-debalance [~quassel@aftr-88-153-7-112.unity-media.net] has joined #debian
03:51-!-debalance is "Philipp Huebner" on #debian-kde #debian-devel-changes #debian #debian-qa
03:53-!-srtu_ [~hypnotoad@i59F44627.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
03:54-!-solarwind [~eezee@000264a4.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
03:54-!-solarwind is "realname" on #moocows #debian
04:09-!-petru_ [~petru@188.24.8.235] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
04:13-!-peacetreaty [~peacetrea@static.36.148.9.5.clients.your-server.de] has joined #debian
04:13-!-peacetreaty is "peacetreaty" on #debian #fai
04:15-!-v17d [~vlad@46.98.122.177] has joined #debian
04:15-!-v17d is "realname" on #debian #debian-next #debian-cinnamon #debian-hurd
04:17-!-CrypticS_ [~CrypticS_@000182b4.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving...]
04:18-!-level7 [~quassel@31.44.17.250] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
04:19-!-ansel [~ansel@2003:5b:203b:100:6af7:28ff:fe06:801] has joined #debian
04:19-!-ansel is "Andreas Seltenreich" on #debian-ha #debian
04:24-!-antgel [~topdog@82.166.98.41] has joined #debian
04:24-!-antgel is "TD" on #openvas #debian
04:27-!-Ruebezahl [~Alf@p200300C04BE7A400626720FFFE413270.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #debian
04:27-!-Ruebezahl is "realname" on #debian #debian-edu #skolelinux.de #osm-de #debian-systemd
04:28-!-hackunoichi [~hackunoic@000230a5.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Quitte et cat]
04:30-!-OERIAS [~OERIAS@47.137.234.90] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
04:31-!-anders [~anders@2001:610:120:3001:f5d3:3b98:a0f5:2a62] has joined #debian
04:31-!-anders is "anders" on #debian
04:31-!-itd [~itd@0002249b.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
04:31-!-itd is "itd" on #debian-welcome #debian
04:44-!-FoolishOwl [bgvaughan@00021ad2.user.oftc.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
04:44-!-habs [habs@ma.sdf.org] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
04:49-!-Tempesta [Tempesta@0002028b.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: AdiIRC is updating to v2.9 Beta Build (2017/08/08) 64 Bit]
04:50-!-Tempesta [~Tempesta@0002028b.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
04:50-!-Tempesta is "ChoiKyuSang" on #debian #smuxi
04:50-!-Ionic [~ionic@valery.ip6.local.home.ionic.de] has joined #debian
04:50-!-Ionic is "Mihai Moldovan" on #debian #guilt
04:54-!-kjetil [~kjetil@ti0071a400-2318.bb.online.no] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
04:56-!-hadret [~hadret@hadret.sh] has joined #debian
04:56-!-hadret is "Filip Chabik" on #kernelnewbies #debian
04:57-!-mxx [~mxx@60.191.111.71] has joined #debian
04:57-!-mxx is "Unknown" on #debian
04:58-!-mxx [~mxx@60.191.111.71] has quit []
05:02-!-hackunoichi [~hackunoic@000230a5.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
05:02-!-hackunoichi is "S.C.M. C." on #debian-multimedia #debian #debian-offtopic #debian-france #debian-gnome #debian-fr
05:04-!-JohnML [~john1@ip-178-202-235-153.hsi09.unitymediagroup.de] has joined #debian
05:04-!-JohnML is "realname" on #siduction-de #siduction #debian
05:05-!-solarwind [~eezee@000264a4.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: t's now time to walk the dog.]
05:07-!-vanni [~vanni@2001:250:3002:4a44:c073:ac3f:5fb0:534c] has joined #debian
05:07-!-vanni is "realname" on #debian #ceph
05:07<vanni>en
05:08-!-sadrak|work [~ostmann@p57B701E2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #debian
05:08-!-sadrak|work is "purple" on #debian
05:17-!-csotelo [~csotelo@2001:1388:49c6:f9a5:a328:3589:be40:bafd] has joined #debian
05:17-!-csotelo is "realname" on #debian-es #debian
05:19-!-petru_ [~petru@188.24.8.235] has joined #debian
05:19-!-petru_ is "Petru Trimbitas" on #debian-kde #debian
05:20-!-bluca [~lboccass@213.251.34.151] has joined #debian
05:20-!-bluca is "purple" on #debian-efi #debian-next #debian-ftp #debian
05:20-!-bluca [~lboccass@213.251.34.151] has quit []
05:20-!-bluca is "purple" on #debian-efi #debian-next #debian-ftp #debian
05:20-!-bluca [~lboccass@213.251.34.151] has joined #debian
05:29-!-f10 [~flo@ip5b40643f.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has joined #debian
05:29-!-f10 is "f10" on #debian-kde #debian
05:33-!-RiberHus_PC [~vitor@2a02-8435-1403-8501-54f1-0659-b59e-c0b7.rev.sfr.net] has joined #debian
05:33-!-RiberHus_PC is "realname" on #debian
05:33-!-fbihui [~fbihui@14-203-179-19.tpgi.com.au] has joined #debian
05:33-!-fbihui is "fbihui" on #debian
05:34<RiberHus_PC>hello folks.. i've installed grub-customizer on Debian 9.. but it don't detect the other OS's (Windows 10 & Xubuntu)
05:34<RiberHus_PC>any ideas?
05:34<fbihui>whats grub-customizer
05:35<RiberHus_PC>software to change boot order
05:35<fbihui>sounds handy
05:35-!-wavekidsjp [~wavekidsj@h219-110-18-091.catv02.itscom.jp] has joined #debian
05:35-!-wavekidsjp is "wavekidsjp" on #debian
05:36<fbihui>no idea
05:36<fbihui>you sure its even capable of detecting the other distros ?
05:36<RiberHus_PC>i've followed this tutorial: https://www.linuxsecrets.com/en/entry/6-managing-linux-systems/2016/06/23/1788-install-grub-customizer-on-debian-distributions
05:36<fbihui>sounds like a setting problem
05:36<fbihui>i would do the same thing
05:37<RiberHus_PC>seems kinda up-to-date with the grub-customizer version
05:37<fbihui>read a tutorial
05:38<fbihui>dont know
05:38<fbihui>maybe someone else knows
05:38<fbihui>700 people in here
05:38<fbihui>apparently
05:39-!-anders [~anders@2001:610:120:3001:f5d3:3b98:a0f5:2a62] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
05:39-!-alanz [~smuxi@165.255.74.172] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
05:40-!-fbihui_ [~fbihui@220-244-200-94.tpgi.com.au] has joined #debian
05:40-!-fbihui_ is "fbihui" on #debian
05:42-!-alanz [~smuxi@165.255.106.127] has joined #debian
05:42-!-alanz is "Your Name" on #debian #smuxi
05:45<jm_>why not try os-prober instead?
05:47-!-fbihui [~fbihui@14-203-179-19.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
05:49<RiberHus_PC>never heard of it
05:49<RiberHus_PC>and i want to use a GUI
05:52-!-preview [~quassel@2407:7000:842d:4000::3] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
05:53-!-dindondero [~simone@89.119.251.40] has joined #debian
05:53-!-dindondero is "purple" on #debian
05:54-!-RiberHus_PC [~vitor@2a02-8435-1403-8501-54f1-0659-b59e-c0b7.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
05:55-!-N-Mi [~nicolas@office.ibrowse.com] has joined #debian
05:55-!-N-Mi is "Nicolas Pichon" on #virt #packaging #debian-apt #debian
05:56-!-vkrishn [~vkrishn@117.198.42.129] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
05:57-!-dindondero [~simone@89.119.251.40] has left #debian []
05:58-!-hadret [~hadret@hadret.sh] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.7.1]
05:58-!-hadret [~hadret@hadret.sh] has joined #debian
05:58-!-hadret is "Filip Chabik" on #kernelnewbies #debian
05:59-!-hadret [~hadret@hadret.sh] has quit []
06:00-!-hadret [~hadret@hadret.sh] has joined #debian
06:00-!-hadret is "Filip Chabik" on #kernelnewbies #debian
06:01-!-samael [~earendil@multivac.valis-e.com] has joined #debian
06:01-!-samael is "Samuele Catusian" on #debian #qtile
06:03-!-sunilmohan [~quassel@183.83.201.52] has joined #debian
06:03-!-sunilmohan is "Sunil Mohan Adapa" on #pere #debian-boot #debian #osdg-iiith #debian-js #debian-in #debian-reproducible #debian-webapps #debian-arm #monkeysphere #freedombox #debian-blends
06:03-!-sunilmohan__ [~quassel@183.83.201.52] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
06:03<adhawkins>Hi all. Since upgrading my gateway server to Stretch, my VPN isn't working (Windows client connecting to the PPTP server on the gateway PC running debian).
06:04-!-vanni_ [~vanni@2001:250:3002:4a44:c073:ac3f:5fb0:534c] has joined #debian
06:04-!-vanni_ is "realname" on #ceph #debian
06:04-!-vanni [~vanni@2001:250:3002:4a44:c073:ac3f:5fb0:534c] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
06:04<samael>hello, i need to run this command from a pre-up hook in interfaces(5): "echo -e 'AT^NDISDUP=1,1,"ibox.tim.it"\r' > /dev/ttyUSB0". it does not work because the -e switch is not processed by echo, instead it gets output-ed together with the rest. i tried to play with single and double quotes, and various escapes, with no luck. any hint?
06:04-!-petru_ [~petru@188.24.8.235] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
06:05-!-vkrishn [~vkrishn@117.198.46.84] has joined #debian
06:05-!-vkrishn is "vkrishn" on #debian #debconf #debconf-video
06:05<kpcyrd>adhawkins: the name of your network interfaces might have changed with stretch
06:10-!-dselect [~dselect@dselect.bot.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: ouch... that hurt]
06:11-!-dselect [~dselect@dselect.bot.oftc.net] has joined #debian
06:11-!-dselect is "dpkg backup readonly db" on #debian ##uddmill
06:13<itd>samael: You could try to: create a script; put that line in it; add the script as pre-up hook
06:14-!-ph0b0s [~ph0b0s@adsl-39.79.107.83.tellas.gr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
06:15-!-ph0b0s [~ph0b0s@adsl-79.91.140.19.tellas.gr] has joined #debian
06:15-!-ph0b0s is "ph0b0s" on #debian
06:16<samael>itd: that's what i've done eventually. but i'd really like to keep everything in the same place
06:16-!-antgel [~topdog@82.166.98.41] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
06:16-!-vkrishn [~vkrishn@117.198.46.84] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
06:18-!-Brigo [~Brigo@2.58.27.77.dynamic.reverse-mundo-r.com] has joined #debian
06:18-!-Brigo is "realname" on #debian #debian-es #debian-next #debian-offtopic #debian-mentors
06:19<itd>samael: You could try printf instead of echo. That should interpret the '\r'.
06:19<samael>itd: good point. i'll try it, thanks
06:21<jm_>samael: try to use /bin/echo instead
06:21<jm_>dash's echo does not understand -e
06:22-!-posterdati [~posterdat@host87-235-dynamic.181-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/]
06:22-!-preview [~quassel@2407:7000:842d:4000::3] has joined #debian
06:22-!-preview is "preview" on #debian
06:23<adhawkins>It connects ok, but no traffic flows. Should there be an entry in the routing table for pppx?
06:23<adhawkins>kpcyrd: I don't think that the names have changed.
06:24<adhawkins>kpcyrd: Nope, still eth0 and ppp0
06:25<samael>jm_: bingo. that was the actual problem
06:25<adhawkins>There have only been 9 packets transmitted over the PPP link. I suspect that's because of a missing route.
06:25<samael>itd, jm_: thanks a lot
06:25<adhawkins>How should that route be set up? I'd done a diff of all the config files since the upgrade, and can't see any relevant changes.
06:26-!-ph0b0s [~ph0b0s@adsl-79.91.140.19.tellas.gr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
06:28-!-zamuro [~Samantha@8.red-212-170-62.staticip.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
06:28-!-zamuro is "Romanes eunt domus" on #debian #debian-es #debian-ve
06:29<jm_>samael: no problem
06:30<fbihui_>debian runs fast
06:30<fbihui_>must be some setting
06:30-!-posterdati [~posterdat@host87-235-dynamic.181-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #debian
06:30-!-posterdati is "antani" on #debian
06:31<fbihui_>mouse
06:32-!-ph0b0s [~ph0b0s@adsl-36.79.107.66.tellas.gr] has joined #debian
06:32-!-ph0b0s is "ph0b0s" on #debian
06:32<duclicsic>adhawkins: how the route should be configured depends on how you use the VPN
06:33<duclicsic>do you intend to push all of your traffic across it? or do you only want to use it when accessing a specific IP range?
06:34-!-money [~money@46.63.65.55] has joined #debian
06:34-!-money is "realname" on #debian
06:34-!-money [~money@46.63.65.55] has quit []
06:34-!-demo [~demo@189.202.85.207.cable.dyn.cableonline.com.mx] has joined #debian
06:34-!-demo is "realname" on #debian
06:39<adhawkins>duclicsic: It's purely for traffic to / from the client at the other end of the VPN.
06:40-!-Tuor [~Tuor@212.25.21.185] has joined #debian
06:40-!-Tuor is "Tuor" on #debian-next #debian
06:40<adhawkins>So the 'remote' windows client should be able to access all the machines in the 'local' network. The 'internet' is on eth0, and the 'local' network is eth1. ppp0 is configured when a 'remote' client connects in via VPN, and the firewall is set up to allow forwarding between ppp0 and eth1.
06:40<fbihui_>yeh
06:40<adhawkins>It all worked fine until I did the update, so I suspect some simple change has been made to the config that I haven't spotted. How can I set up the route manually just to double check this is what's stopping it from working?
06:41<fbihui_>"?
06:43<adhawkins>I tried 'route add -host 191.53.52.90 dev ppp0', but I get 'SIOCADDRT: No such device'
06:43<fbihui_>Creedence Clearwater Revival - Bad Moon Rising
06:43<adhawkins>Should 'ifconfig ppp0' show an IP address? This is all I get currently:
06:43-!-fbihui_ [~fbihui@220-244-200-94.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
06:43<adhawkins>http://paste.debian.net/980377/
06:44-!-solarwind [~eezee@000264a4.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
06:44-!-solarwind is "realname" on #moocows #debian
06:52-!-Eryn_1983_FL [~Eryn_1983@50-89-157-130.res.bhn.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
06:53-!-sidewalkends_ [~sidewalke@66.171.165.154] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
06:56-!-antgel [~topdog@82.166.98.41] has joined #debian
06:56-!-antgel is "TD" on #openvas #debian
06:58-!-Tuor_ [~Tuor@212.25.21.185] has joined #debian
06:58-!-Tuor_ is "Tuor" on #debian-next #debian
06:58-!-f10 [~flo@ip5b40643f.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
07:00-!-melo12 [uid242636@id-242636.charlton.irccloud.com] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity]
07:02-!-f10 [~flo@ip5b40643f.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has joined #debian
07:02-!-f10 is "f10" on #debian-kde #debian
07:02-!-Tuor [~Tuor@212.25.21.185] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
07:02-!-Eryn_1983_FL [~Eryn_1983@50-89-157-130.res.bhn.net] has joined #debian
07:02-!-Eryn_1983_FL is "erin" on #debian
07:04-!-dutch [~dutch@static-97-66-215-42.earthlinkbusiness.net] has joined #debian
07:04-!-dutch is "realname" on #debian
07:05-!-dpkg [~dpkg@dpkg.bot.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: buh bye!]
07:05-!-dpkg [~dpkg@dpkg.bot.oftc.net] has joined #debian
07:05-!-dpkg is "apt backup" on #debian
07:06-!-csotelo [~csotelo@2001:1388:49c6:f9a5:a328:3589:be40:bafd] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
07:08-!-demo [~demo@189.202.85.207.cable.dyn.cableonline.com.mx] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
07:11-!-Tuor_ [~Tuor@212.25.21.185] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
07:12-!-bony [~quassel@183.82.103.58] has joined #debian
07:12-!-bony is "Bhuvan Krishna,,," on #freedombox #debian-mentors @#balaswecha @#eswecha @#swecha #debian
07:12<adhawkins>Any suggestions anyone? How can I manually create the route required for ppp0 to correctly route traffic from the remote client to the local network and back?
07:14<duclicsic>i would definitely avoid doing that. the route should be created automatically when the client connects
07:14<duclicsic>does the remote client get an IP address when connecting?
07:15-!-BrainError404 [~BrainErro@00026519.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
07:15-!-BrainError404 is "realname" on #tor #oftc #debian-mentors #debian-it #debian
07:15-!-BrainError404 [~BrainErro@00026519.user.oftc.net] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded]
07:15-!-BrainError404 is "realname" on #tor #oftc #debian-mentors #debian-it #debian
07:15-!-BrainError404 [~BrainErro@00026519.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
07:17<duclicsic>also adhawkins you should get used to using iproute2 tools in place of net-tools. 'route add' and 'ifconfig' are deprecated
07:17-!-SuperDale [dalek@207.187.233.220.static.exetel.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
07:17-!-Tuor_ [~Tuor@212.25.21.185] has joined #debian
07:17-!-Tuor_ is "Tuor" on #debian-next #debian
07:17-!-SuperDale [dalek@207.187.233.220.static.exetel.com.au] has joined #debian
07:17-!-SuperDale is "dale" on #debian
07:17<duclicsic>if you want to check for the presence of an IP address on the interface i'd use 'ip addr' just to be sure
07:18<duclicsic>or even just 'ip a'
07:18-!-csotelo [~csotelo@2001:1388:49c6:f9a5:a328:3589:be40:bafd] has joined #debian
07:18-!-csotelo is "realname" on #debian-es #debian
07:22-!-mythos [~mythos@84-112-170-161.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
07:22-!-Mikaela_ [~mikaeladi@2001:470:1af1:101::41f] has joined #debian
07:22-!-Mikaela_ is "@mikaela:disroot.org" on #debian
07:23-!-czesmir [~stefan@dgw99.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #debian
07:23-!-czesmir is "Stefan" on #debian
07:27-!-v17d [~vlad@46.98.122.177] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
07:27-!-BrainError404 [~BrainErro@00026519.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
07:29-!-jplejacq__ [~jplejacq@168.244.11.28] has joined #debian
07:29-!-jplejacq__ is "Jean Pierre LeJacq" on #debian-kde #debian
07:31-!-csotelo [~csotelo@2001:1388:49c6:f9a5:a328:3589:be40:bafd] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
07:34-!-lucascastro [~lucas@186.227.186.18] has joined #debian
07:34-!-lucascastro is "realname" on #debian-br #debian-devel-br #debian-mentors #debian-js #debian
07:38-!-user0 [~user0@p4FF09681.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #debian
07:38-!-user0 is "realname" on #debian
07:40-!-Blacker47 [~Blacker47@p200300DD9BE2EE00F95D3373E1515256.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #debian
07:40-!-Blacker47 is "Blacker47" on #debian-next #debian
07:41-!-ldnunes [~ldnunes@189.114.111.135] has joined #debian
07:41-!-ldnunes is "realname" on #oftc #openstack-infra #debian-br #qemu #debian
07:41-!-gioele [~gioele@federwolke.cceh.uni-koeln.de] has joined #debian
07:41-!-gioele is "Gioele" on #debian #debian-ruby
07:42<user0>hi there, I have a problem with #apt update, could you help me?
07:42<jm_>!bat
07:42<dpkg>In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>.
07:44<user0>dpkg: what about localized errors?
07:44<dpkg>user0: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
07:44<user0>dpkg: localized errors
07:44<dpkg>To provide command output in English instead of your native language, set your locale to an English one (e.g. C) prior to running the command, e.g. "LC_ALL=C apt-get -f install".
07:51<gioele>hello, is there a policy in place for NMU-ing native packages with unresponsive maintainers?
07:53-!-N-Mi [~nicolas@office.ibrowse.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
07:53-!-RiberHus [sid116151@id-116151.hathersage.irccloud.com] has quit []
07:54-!-in1t3r [~LordShiva@in1t3r.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
07:55<Naksu>https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/developers-reference/pkgs.html#nmu ?
07:56-!-Delta-One [~zero@2001:2002:51e2:7ba1:6391:acc7:b55f:c617] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
07:57-!-mythos [~mythos@85-124-64-143.static.upcbusiness.at] has joined #debian
07:57-!-mythos is "mythos" on #debian #debian-gnome #debian-offtopic
07:58<bremner>gioele: #debian-mentors is probably a better place for that discussion
07:58<bremner>gioele: also, I don't think native vs non-native is very relevant
07:58<gioele>Naksu, bremner: thank you
08:00-!-FoolishOwl [bgvaughan@00021ad2.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
08:00-!-FoolishOwl is "FoolishOwl" on #oftc #moocows #debian-next #debian
08:01<user0>how can I give '_apt' the necessary rights to see what it needs (, for the keys are imported)?
08:01<user0>dpkg: _apt
08:01<dpkg>user0: wish i knew
08:02-!-ao2_ [~ao2@host118-146-dynamic.23-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #debian
08:02-!-ao2_ is "ao2" on #cell #debian
08:02-!-Tuor_ [~Tuor@212.25.21.185] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
08:02-!-Tuor_ [~Tuor@212.25.21.185] has joined #debian
08:02-!-Tuor_ is "Tuor" on #debian-next #debian
08:03-!-N-Mi [~nicolas@office.ibrowse.com] has joined #debian
08:03-!-N-Mi is "Nicolas Pichon" on #virt #packaging #debian-apt #debian
08:04-!-ewankeep [~ewan@97-127-41-77.mpls.qwest.net] has joined #debian
08:04-!-ewankeep is "purple" on #debian
08:05-!-fenrir [~fenrir@p5B14D51A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #debian
08:05-!-fenrir is "realname" on #debian
08:05<adhawkins>duclicsic: Yes, the client gets an address. Understand about using ip, but it shows same results.
08:05<adhawkins>And also understand I shouldn't need to manually create the route, but I just want to try it to see if that is the issue.
08:05<fenrir>Hey.
08:06<adhawkins>I can then try to work out why it's not being created automatically.
08:06<fenrir>I am new at IRC
08:06-!-Tuor_ [~Tuor@212.25.21.185] has quit []
08:07-!-ao2 [~ao2@host94-151-dynamic.53-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
08:07<Naksu>i should probably figure out that thing too, there are some debian packages i use that are some 6-7 years out of date despite active development upstream
08:08-!-in1t3r [~LordShiva@in1t3r.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
08:08-!-in1t3r is "in1t3r" on #debian @#bitcoin-sorcerers #cryptodotis #https-everywhere #otr-dev #useotr #subgraph #awesome #debconf #debian-mentors #debian-next #linode #qemu #virt
08:09<itd>fenrir: Welcome to #debian. If you have a debian question, just ask.
08:09-!-jm_ [flier@000125af.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Disconnecting]
08:09-!-fenrir [~fenrir@p5B14D51A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
08:10-!-jstein [~quassel@xdsl-213-196-246-2.netcologne.de] has joined #debian
08:10-!-jstein is "Jonas Stein" on #kernelnewbies #smxi #osm-de #debian-mentors @#mint #debian @#fsfe
08:11-!-Tuor [~Tuor@212.25.21.185] has joined #debian
08:11-!-Tuor is "Tuor" on #debian-next #debian
08:11-!-gioele [~gioele@federwolke.cceh.uni-koeln.de] has left #debian []
08:15-!-JanC [~janc@ip-81-11-166-158.dsl.scarlet.be] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
08:17-!-JanC [~janc@ip-81-11-166-158.dsl.scarlet.be] has joined #debian
08:17-!-JanC is "Jan Claeys" on #bcache #debian-fonts #quodlibet #linux-nfs #linuxfs #ext4 #epfsug #debian-nl #debian-derivatives #debian #apparmor
08:18-!-gusnan [~gusnan@213.112.200.126] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
08:19-!-in1t3r [~LordShiva@in1t3r.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
08:19-!-in1t3r [~LordShiva@in1t3r.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
08:19-!-in1t3r is "in1t3r" on #virt #qemu #linode #debian-next #debian-mentors #debconf #awesome #tor #subgraph #useotr #tor-project #otr-dev #https-everywhere #cryptodotis @#bitcoin-sorcerers #debian
08:21-!-gusnan [~gusnan@213.112.200.126] has joined #debian
08:21-!-gusnan is "Andreas Rönnquist" on #msys2 #debian-systemd #debian-multimedia #debian-nordic #debian-desktop #debian-cd #debian-arm #debian-boot #debian-perl #debian-gnome #debian-gnupg #alioth #debian-next #debian-qa #debian.se #debian-publicity #debian-ftp #debian-devel-changes #debian-www #debian-mentors #debian-i18n #debian-games #debian
08:23<Walex>Naksu: some DDs have become less active, but sometimes lack of updates in a package is well motivated: the application is stable upstream, or upstream updates are negative in some sense.
08:23<user0>I investigated my problem myself before (, but didn't come further, so I asked here) and now again. I found something maybe helpful: https://paste.debian.net/980396/
08:23<Naksu>Walex: this is a case where i'm not sure if the debian package is even fit for purpose anymore
08:24<Walex>Naksu: that happens too unfortunately.
08:26<Walex>Naksu: in some cases the "FTP masters" have withdrawn packages from the archives because they were unmaintained.
08:26<adhawkins>duclicsic: Can you suggest the command I need to create the route manually?
08:27<user0>How do I get permissions (if I need them at all)? # LC_ALL=C gpg --recv-keys 7638D0442B90D010 8B48AD6246925553 CBF8D6FD518E17E1 EF0F382A1A7B6500 818A435C5FCBF54A
08:27<user0>gpg: keyserver receive failed: Permission denied
08:27<grawity>figure out what permissions are missing
08:27<grawity>adding "--debug all" may help
08:27<Walex>user0: that is you lack permissions to your own GPG directory
08:28<Walex>user0: note that almost surely given that comment you should be using 'apt-key'
08:28<Walex>usew
08:28<Walex>user0: have a look at 'ls -l $HOME/.gnupg'
08:29-!-vle1 [~vle1@dyn069101.nbw.tue.nl] has joined #debian
08:29-!-vle1 is "Van Huynh Le" on #debian-kde #debian
08:29<user0>Walex: to which file esp.?
08:30<Walex>user0: note that in general you don't want the keys for package signing in your account's GPG repository, but in the APT GPG repository.
08:31<Walex>user0: all files under "$HOME/.gnupg/" should be owned by that account.
08:31-!-vle1 [~vle1@dyn069101.nbw.tue.nl] has quit []
08:32<user0>so, I just do # chmod +0444 * ?
08:33<grawity>you know
08:33<grawity>the more I try to understand what you're doing
08:33<grawity>the more it keeps going in the general direction of "what even"
08:34<grawity>why are you using apt-key on ~/.gnupg in the first place
08:34<user0>I also followed this one : https://elkano.org/blog/debian-8-jessie-signatures-verified-public-key
08:35-!-Ruebezahl [~Alf@p200300C04BE7A400626720FFFE413270.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
08:35<Walex>user0: just follow this one for each of the values: https://unix.stackexchange.com/a/205732
08:35<user0>All it started with #apt udpate
08:35<grawity>mind just pastebinning `ls -laR /etc/apt ~/.gnupg`?
08:35<Walex>user0: not everything that you read on the intertubes is well written
08:35<user0>walex: did I already mention ?: https://paste.debian.net/980396
08:36<user0>intertubes? What's that
08:36<user0>?
08:36-!-Ruebezahl [~Alf@p200300C04BE7A400626720FFFE413270.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #debian
08:36-!-Ruebezahl is "realname" on #debian-systemd #osm-de #skolelinux.de #debian-edu #debian
08:36<grawity>memespeak for 'the internet'
08:36<Walex>user0: did you try the command line in https://unix.stackexchange.com/a/205732 ???????????
08:37<user0>should I? https://paste.debian.net/980398
08:37-!-BrainError404 [~BrainErro@00026519.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
08:37-!-BrainError404 is "realname" on #debian #debian-it #debian-mentors #oftc #tor
08:38<Walex>user0: that is a completely different issue.
08:38<Walex>user0: first make sure the APT GNUPG repository has the right valid keys, and then we talk bout download errors.
08:38-!-FoolishOwl [bgvaughan@00021ad2.user.oftc.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
08:38<Walex>user0: in your download errors the problem is not failure of signature, but of hashes.
08:39<user0>doesn'T it all hang together as apt's not working as it should...?--- OK.
08:39<Walex>user0: there are different phases in what APT does.
08:39<user0>where to find the file which keys apt uses "from ~/.gnupg"?
08:39-!-FoolishOwl [bgvaughan@00021ad2.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
08:39-!-FoolishOwl is "FoolishOwl" on #oftc #moocows #debian-next #debian
08:40<Walex>user0: first the list of packages is downloaded, then checksum signatures are checked, then file checksums are checked
08:40<grawity>user0: it doesn't use *anything* from ~/.gnupg
08:40<Walex>user0: APT does not use "$HOME/.gnupg/", it uses '/etc/apt/trusted*'
08:41-!-Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
08:41<Walex>user0: as a convenience, the 'apt-key' command uses by default the latter.
08:41<Walex>user0: as I was saying just first do as https://unix.stackexchange.com/a/205732 suggests.
08:42<Walex>user0: 'sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys ...' for the keys you needs
08:43<user0>not keyring.debian.org?
08:43-!-bw123 [~b17@108.103.79.61] has joined #debian
08:43-!-bw123 is "b17" on #debian
08:43<Walex>user0: it is the same.
08:43<Walex>user0: actually not quite, just use the ubuntu.com one
08:43<user0>gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found.
08:43<Walex>user0: don't believe you.
08:44<user0>gpg: WARNING: nothing exported *** gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found.
08:44-!-CuZnDragon [~Unknown@pheuri.wyrms.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
08:44<user0>https://paste.debian.net/980401/
08:45<user0>I imported several keys (at least some times those in the error message)...
08:46<user0>Will they be overwritten when any bit/byte changed in them?
08:46<Walex>user0: I did it and it worked for me: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25269757/
08:46<user0>may I delete them and redownload?
08:46<grove>Why do you want to do that?
08:47<user0>Walex: you used the exact same command? as root?
08:47<Walex>user0: this command: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25269765/
08:47<user0>grove: maybe it doesn't check the whole file, just like an index or sth. and the "error part" is not checked... just my phantasy?
08:48-!-TotallyNotKim [~TotallyNo@176.9.178.136] has joined #debian
08:48-!-TotallyNotKim is "ReallyNotKim" on #debian #smuxi
08:49<grove>And the keys doesn't change. Some time in the future new keys might be used, at that time (i.e. don't worry about it now) you need to get those new keys
08:49<Walex>user0: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25269771/
08:49<user0>https://paste.debian.net/980403/
08:50<Walex>user0: that's from 2-3 weeks ago.
08:50<user0>That's today'S output.
08:51<user0>https://paste.debian.net/980404/
08:52<user0>so I have to delete the release file???
08:52<Walex>user0: yes
08:52<user0>which is... where? *I really don't know.*
08:53<Walex>user0: rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*
08:53<user0>thx
08:53<Walex>user0: then: apt-get clean
08:53<Walex>user0: then of course as you did: apt-get update
08:54<user0>rm: cannot remove '/var/lib/apt/lists/partial': Is a directory
08:54<Walex>user0: fine...
08:55-!-Maarten_ [~smuxi@185.47.133.96] has joined #debian
08:55-!-Maarten_ is "Maarten" on #debian
08:55<user0>Ign:12 http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian stretch Release.gpg that's OK?
08:55<Walex>user0: it is bit worrying that your internet connection is bad that there are several transmission errors in just a few /var/lib/apt/lists/
08:55<Walex>user0: it is bit worrying that your internet connection is bad that there are several transmission errors in just a few dozen MB in /var/lib/apt/lists
08:55<Walex>user0: that's OK, that's the signed file.
08:56<user0>27% [34 Components-amd64 1589 kB/3066 kB 52%] [33 Packages 2128 kB/7095 kB 30%] [32 icons-128x128 8868 kB/15.8 MB 56%] 1450 kB/s 4min 22s
08:56<Walex>user0: looks good
08:57<user0>how do you know the size of my folder???
08:57<Walex>user0: webcam in your room :-)
08:58-!-derekjc [~derek@115.254.119.194] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
08:58-!-Delta-One [~zero@static-193-14-171-227.cust.tele2.se] has joined #debian
08:58-!-Delta-One is "Patrick Franz" on #debian-kde #debian #debian-nordic #debian.se #debian-next
08:58<user0>Walex: and how really? :-D
08:58<Walex>user0: the size of those files is the same on every Debian system in the whole world...
08:59<user0>-.- could have come to my mind either -.-
08:59<Walex>:-)
08:59<Walex>user0: everything fine now with APT?
09:00<user0>waiting for apt to download my system... Aaand it's gone
09:00<user0>:-D
09:00<Walex>user0: did you check the upgrades with 'apt-get upgrade -s'?
09:00<user0>unfortunately no.
09:00<user0>https://paste.debian.net/980406/
09:01<user0># LC_ALL=C apt-get upgrade -s
09:01<user0>Reading package lists... Done
09:01<user0>Building dependency tree
09:01<user0>Reading state information... Done
09:01<user0>Calculating upgrade... Done
09:01<user0>0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
09:01-!-jhutchin1_wk [~jonathan@136.33.72.78] has joined #debian
09:01-!-jhutchin1_wk is "Jonathan Hutchins" on #oftc #debian
09:01<Naksu>Walex: is there a nice way to let someone know about extremely stale packages
09:01<Walex>user0: add those signatures with the same command 'apt-key adv ....
09:02<Naksu>i remember badgering the maintainer about this like a year ago but he said he no longer used the package himself and couldn't test it
09:02<Walex>Naksu: it is pointless -- they know already.
09:02<user0># apt-key adv EF0F382A1A7B6500 7638D0442B90D010 8B48AD6246925553
09:02<user0>Executing: /tmp/apt-key-gpghome.5mdIL7TuHB/gpg.1.sh EF0F382A1A7B6500 7638D0442B90D010 8B48AD6246925553
09:02<user0>usage: gpg [options] [filename]
09:02<Walex>Naksu: then send their reply to the FTP Masters mailing list and it will be delisted and someone else will pick it up.
09:03-!-anders [~anders@2001:610:120:3001:6146:2fe7:e055:1793] has joined #debian
09:03-!-anders is "anders" on #debian
09:03<user0>Walex: All my trouble began with the end of support from Uni Würzburg for Debian...
09:03<adhawkins>Can anyone help with my pptp VPN question above?
09:03-!-arturo [~aborrero@r2d2.cica.es] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
09:03<Walex>Naksu: on one hand it is very difficult to change maintainer without the consent of the current inactive one, on the other it is much easier to persuade the FTP masters to delist a package
09:04<Walex>user0: I am surprised, IIRC Würzburg was very keen on Debian like most unis.
09:05-!-mvanorder [~mvanorder@173.38.117.87] has joined #debian
09:05-!-mvanorder is "realname" on #debian
09:05<Walex>user0: as that page also suggested, do: sudo apt-get install debian-archive-keyring; sudo apt-key update
09:05-!-remy [~remy@2a02:a210:2140:f480::11d] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
09:05<pavi[m]>Does anyone know the Debian wiki page where all media players and music players are listed?
09:05<pavi[m]>Something like https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications#Music_players
09:06<Walex>pavi[m]: "all" is a big ask
09:06-!-x032cx [~lxuser@0001b0b3.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
09:06-!-x032cx is "lxuser" on #debian
09:06<Walex>pavi[m]: however apart from that try 'apt-cache search ...'
09:06<pavi[m]>@_oftc_Walex:matrix.org: Atleast the recommended ones.
09:06<user0>I thought I was in debian irc, not the ubuntu one...? O.o (We're all Llinux ;-) )
09:06<pavi[m]>@_oftc_Walex:matrix.org: lol was about to suggest apt-cache search for end user.
09:07<pavi[m]>I finally was forced to give the ubuntu wiki page on media players :(
09:07<Walex>pavi[m]: difficult say "recommended", each desktop environment usually has a recommended one, and that is even controversial
09:07-!-apo [~apo@linuxiuvat.de] has quit [Quit: http://linuxiuvat.de]
09:07-!-jhutchins_wk [~jonathan@136.33.72.78] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
09:08-!-remy [~remy@2a02:a210:2140:f480::11d] has joined #debian
09:08-!-remy is "realname" on #debian #nllgg #debian-nl
09:09<pavi[m]>For example Arch wiki has a nice category https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Category:Multimedia_players
09:09<Walex>pavi[m]: they are much the same...
09:09<pavi[m]>Debian wiki talks about https://wiki.debian.org/DebianMultimedia which is more about packaging
09:09<pavi[m]>More on the devel side of things.
09:10<grove>!dmm
09:10<dpkg>We recommend against using deb-multimedia.org; these unofficial packages are known to cause many hard to debug problems. They are not in Debian either because the they are poor in quality or for legal reasons. See http://deb-multimedia.org/ or ask me about <dmm stretch>, <dmm jessie>. See also <dmm list>, <dmm mirrors>, <dmm pinning>, <why not dmm>, <dmm remove>.
09:10<user0>Walex:they wrote me that it took one third of their disk space, whereas it only had 1 % of the downloads...
09:10<Walex>user0: ahhh FTP....
09:10<user0>walex:what???
09:11<Walex>user0: so you lost your favourite FTP site, not your user support team.
09:11<pavi[m]>!ask media player
09:11<itd>pavi[m]: Not part of the wiki, but using debtags may help: https://paste.debian.net/plainh/45b69a58
09:11<pavi[m]>I finally found a proper wiki page. https://wiki.debian.org/DebianMultimedia/PlayerSupport
09:11<Walex>pavi[m]: you can use ao trhe packages list in the tasks
09:11-!-N-Mi [~nicolas@office.ibrowse.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
09:11<pavi[m]>Its nice and explains things. Not everyone can understand it though.
09:12-!-arnoldoree [~lucianang@cpc121144-nmal24-2-0-cust171.19-2.cable.virginm.net] has joined #debian
09:12-!-arnoldoree is "Arnold Opio Oree" on #debian
09:12<user0>I think so...? Those were the days when I upgraded my PC to a whole new one and also my Debian from 8.5 to 9.1
09:12-!-f_g [~fgruenbic@212-186-127-178.static.upcbusiness.at] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.6]
09:12-!-Nick1296 [~nick1296@47.204.241.185] has joined #debian
09:12-!-Nick1296 is "Nick1296" on #debian #debian-offtopic #debian-cd
09:12<pavi[m]>itd: Thanks for the command. Will tell it to the end user. He will be happy he learnt something.
09:13-!-grrrrrr [~libertad@barbanegra.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
09:13-!-grrrrrr is "http://barbanegra.info/" on #debian
09:13-!-user0 [~user0@p4FF09681.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
09:14<Walex>pavi[m]: online: https://debtags.debian.org/rep/todo/maint/pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org
09:14-!-free4fun [~libertad@barbanegra.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
09:14<pavi[m]>@_oftc_Walex:matrix.org: So there is a web interface for this.
09:14<pavi[m]>Someone should take the task to copy paste all of this stuff to wiki.
09:15-!-jhutchin1_wk [~jonathan@136.33.72.78] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
09:15<Walex>pavi[m]: or you use 'debtags' or 'aptitude' and look at the category or tasks
09:16<itd>pavi[m]: 'debtags tagsearch music' while searching for tags describing what you are looking for
09:16<pavi[m]>@_oftc_Walex:matrix.org: There is a disadvantage in the above debtags link.
09:16<pavi[m]>Why should I care about say `amb-plugins` package?
09:16<pavi[m]>I am just interested in players, not the internal plugins
09:17-!-nikoala [~niko@80.30.128.11] has joined #debian
09:17-!-nikoala is "niko" on #debian
09:17<Walex>pavi[m]: that's a list of all packages maintained by the DMM team, you can narrow it down
09:17-!-a2 [~jlbg@47.59.118.39] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
09:18<pavi[m]>@_oftc_Walex:matrix.org: Yeah thanks for that maybe grep the "player" out of above list.
09:20<pavi[m]>debtags command doesnt give option to search for maintainer
09:20-!-apo [~apo@linuxiuvat.de] has joined #debian
09:20-!-apo is "Markus Koschany" on #debian-qa #debian-games #debian #debian-java
09:21*pavi[m] finally found the right tag command. It is ` debtags search use::playing`
09:24-!-sevu [~Shiki@p54855BDF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #debian
09:24-!-sevu is "realname" on #debian-next #debian
09:24-!-ldnunes [~ldnunes@189.114.111.135] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
09:28-!-N-Mi [~nicolas@office.ibrowse.com] has joined #debian
09:28-!-N-Mi is "Nicolas Pichon" on #virt #packaging #debian-apt #debian
09:30-!-jplejacq [~jplejacq@168.244.11.22] has joined #debian
09:30-!-jplejacq is "Jean Pierre LeJacq" on #debian-kde #debian
09:31-!-jmlongo [~jmlongo@200.12.137.20] has joined #debian
09:31-!-jmlongo is "Martin Longo" on #debian-es #debian-kde #debian
09:33-!-ldnunes [~ldnunes@181.220.72.143] has joined #debian
09:33-!-ldnunes is "realname" on #debian #qemu #debian-br #openstack-infra #oftc
09:33-!-fenrir [~fenrir@p5B14D51A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #debian
09:33-!-fenrir is "realname" on #debian
09:34<fenrir>Is this a support-only channel?
09:34<duclicsic>yes
09:34<fenrir>Okay, thanks.
09:34-!-fenrir [~fenrir@p5B14D51A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit []
09:34-!-bony_ [~quassel@183.82.103.58] has joined #debian
09:34-!-bony_ is "Bhuvan Krishna,,," on #freedombox #debian-mentors #balaswecha #eswecha #swecha #debian
09:36-!-bony [~quassel@183.82.103.58] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
09:36-!-jplejacq__ [~jplejacq@168.244.11.28] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
09:38-!-flux [~flux@0.169.125.91.dyn.plus.net] has joined #debian
09:38-!-flux is "Flux" on #debian-kde #debian
09:39-!-flux is now known as Flux
09:39-!-Haudegen [~quassel@212-186-77-29.static.upcbusiness.at] has joined #debian
09:39-!-Haudegen is "AP,,," on #debian #debian-next #debian-kde
09:39-!-jhutchins_wk [~jonathan@12.126.86.122] has joined #debian
09:39-!-jhutchins_wk is "Jonathan Hutchins" on #oftc #debian
09:43-!-ldnunes [~ldnunes@181.220.72.143] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
09:43-!-dvs [~hibbard@00012127.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
09:43-!-dvs is "realname" on #debian
09:44-!-ldnunes [~ldnunes@181.220.72.143] has joined #debian
09:44-!-ldnunes is "realname" on #oftc #openstack-infra #debian-br #qemu #debian
09:46-!-Flux [~flux@0.169.125.91.dyn.plus.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
09:48-!-BrainError404 [~BrainErro@00026519.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
09:50-!-anders [~anders@2001:610:120:3001:6146:2fe7:e055:1793] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
09:53-!-azzamsa [~azzamsa@114.125.118.113] has joined #debian
09:53-!-azzamsa is "realname" on #ikiwiki #debian #debian-welcome
09:53-!-jegc [~jegc@206.167.44.157] has joined #debian
09:53-!-jegc is "Jorge Ernesto Guevara Cuenca" on #debian #debian-co
09:54-!-kmshanah [~kmshanah@pa49-178-29-214.pa.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #debian
09:54-!-kmshanah is "Kevin Shanahan" on #debian
09:56-!-kmshanah_ [~kmshanah@pa49-178-29-214.pa.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
09:56-!-ach [~spo@ip-109-43-3-96.web.vodafone.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
09:57-!-cruncher [~cruncher@00020ba0.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
09:57-!-cruncher is "cruncher" on #debian-mentors #debian-offtopic #debian-devel-changes #debian #debian-next
10:00-!-x032cx [~lxuser@0001b0b3.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: idts]
10:01-!-Wyzard [~mike@pool-68-134-4-246.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net] has joined #debian
10:01-!-Wyzard is "realname" on #debian-next #debian
10:02-!-srtu__ [~hypnotoad@i59F44A8B.versanet.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
10:03-!-alanz [~smuxi@165.255.106.127] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
10:03-!-ml| [~ml|@00016c5c.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
10:08-!-njumdl2014 [~mdl@104.39.74.189] has joined #debian
10:08-!-njumdl2014 is "mudongliang" on #debian
10:09-!-Valvalion [~Valvalion@91.183.209.169] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
10:13-!-ml| [~ml|@00016c5c.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
10:13-!-ml| is "ml|" on #debian
10:14-!-azzamsa [~azzamsa@114.125.118.113] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
10:15-!-giaur [~quassel@bcv56.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #debian
10:15-!-giaur is "giaur" on #debian
10:15-!-Anarka [~luifer@dng-out.sgsit.se] has quit [Quit: leaving]
10:16-!-ao2__ [~ao2@host179-142-dynamic.6-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #debian
10:16-!-ao2__ is "ao2" on #cell #debian
10:16-!-Anarka [~luifer@46.21.104.228] has joined #debian
10:16-!-Anarka is "Luís ferreira" on #debian-next #debian
10:18-!-Anarka [~luifer@46.21.104.228] has quit []
10:19-!-Anarka [~luifer@dng-out.sgsit.se] has joined #debian
10:19-!-Anarka is "Luís ferreira" on #debian-next #debian
10:20-!-jegc__ [~jegc@206.167.44.157] has joined #debian
10:20-!-jegc__ is "Jorge Ernesto Guevara Cuenca" on #debian #debian-co
10:21-!-Anarka [~luifer@dng-out.sgsit.se] has quit []
10:21-!-Anarka [~luifer@runner-231.sgsit.se] has joined #debian
10:21-!-Anarka is "Luís ferreira" on #debian-next #debian
10:21-!-Anarka [~luifer@runner-231.sgsit.se] has quit []
10:22-!-rockstorm [~rockstorm@92.190.76.235] has joined #debian
10:22-!-rockstorm is "Rock Storm" on #debian #debian-mentors-es #debian-mentors #debian-devel-es #debian-astro #debian-3dprinting
10:22-!-ao2_ [~ao2@host118-146-dynamic.23-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
10:22-!-sidewalkends_ [~sidewalke@206.167.44.205] has joined #debian
10:22-!-sidewalkends_ is "realname" on #debian
10:22-!-a2 [~jlbg@82.158.232.125.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #debian
10:22-!-a2 is "a2" on #freebsd #debian #kernelnewbies #debian-es
10:22-!-hadret [~hadret@hadret.sh] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.7.1]
10:22-!-sidewalkends_ [~sidewalke@206.167.44.205] has quit []
10:23-!-Anarka [~luifer@dng-out.sgsit.se] has joined #debian
10:23-!-Anarka is "Luís ferreira" on #debian-next #debian
10:24-!-loc [~knab@2a00:1a28:1510:9::5736] has joined #debian
10:24-!-loc is "Unknown" on #debian
10:25<rockstorm>Hi, I found that there's a process called "tar" eating all my cpu (see output of top https://paste.debian.net/980424/) but I'm compressing or extracting anything, does anyone know what's going on?
10:25-!-hadret [~hadret@hadret.sh] has joined #debian
10:25-!-hadret is "Filip Chabik" on #kernelnewbies #debian
10:25<rockstorm>but I'm not*
10:25-!-loc [~knab@2a00:1a28:1510:9::5736] has quit []
10:26<adhawkins>rockstorm: Find its PID, then do cat /proc/<pid>/cmdline
10:26<adhawkins>That'll give you it's command line
10:26<adhawkins>(e.g if its pid is 1234, 'cat /proc/1234/cmdline')
10:26-!-jegc___ [~jegc@206.167.44.157] has joined #debian
10:26-!-jegc___ is "Jorge Ernesto Guevara Cuenca" on #debian #debian-co
10:27-!-alanz [~smuxi@165.255.111.121] has joined #debian
10:27-!-alanz is "Your Name" on #debian #smuxi
10:28-!-jegc__ [~jegc@206.167.44.157] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
10:28-!-B0rk_Meister666 [~B0rk_Meis@144.48.104.42] has joined #debian
10:28-!-B0rk_Meister666 is "realname" on #debian
10:29-!-jegc [~jegc@206.167.44.157] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
10:29-!-esaym153 [~esaym153@75-1-182-8.lightspeed.snantx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
10:30<rockstorm>adhawkins, thanks a lot, I was going nuts :P, it turns out I am indeed compressing stuff
10:31<rockstorm>I forgot I had a backup script set up via cron ¬¬
10:34-!-mmunjic [~mmunjic@213.191.146.46] has joined #debian
10:34-!-mmunjic is "realname" on #debian
10:35-!-mmunjic [~mmunjic@213.191.146.46] has quit []
10:39-!-bw123_ [~b17@68-243-84-209.pools.spcsdns.net] has joined #debian
10:39-!-bw123_ is "b17" on #debian
10:39-!-zamuro [~Samantha@00017244.user.oftc.net] has left #debian [[IRSSI]]
10:42-!-bw123 [~b17@108.103.79.61] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
10:44-!-bw123 [~b17@108.102.136.156] has joined #debian
10:44-!-bw123 is "b17" on #debian
10:44-!-miguel [~miguel@109.red-176-83-2.dynamicip.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
10:44-!-miguel is "miguel" on #debian-kde #debian
10:45-!-ach [~spo@ip-109-43-0-64.web.vodafone.de] has joined #debian
10:45-!-ach is "spooky" on #debian
10:45-!-miguel [~miguel@109.red-176-83-2.dynamicip.rima-tde.net] has quit []
10:46-!-guardian [~guardian@planet-d.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
10:46-!-^Q-Master^ [~q-master@2.93.110.84] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
10:47-!-jegc___ [~jegc@206.167.44.157] has left #debian []
10:47-!-tda [~tmerriam@12-231-200-67.producersnational.com] has joined #debian
10:47-!-tda is "purple" on #debian
10:48-!-jordi [~jordi@tempesta.oskuro.net] has joined #debian
10:48-!-jordi is "Jordi Mallach | Pres@s al carrer!" on #debian #alioth @#debian-gnome #debconf #debian-catalan
10:48-!-jordi [~jordi@tempesta.oskuro.net] has left #debian []
10:48-!-bw123_ [~b17@68-243-84-209.pools.spcsdns.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
10:49<adhawkins>rockstorm: No worries. Happy to help.
10:49-!-bw123_ [~b17@108.103.79.61] has joined #debian
10:49-!-bw123_ is "b17" on #debian
10:52-!-bluca [~lboccass@213.251.34.151] has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
10:52-!-derekjc [~derek@106.201.127.33] has joined #debian
10:52-!-derekjc is "realname" on #debian #debian-installer #debian-boot
10:52-!-bw123 [~b17@108.102.136.156] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
10:53-!-thunderrd__ [~thunderrd@159.192.197.244] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
10:56-!-alexpbrown [~alex.brow@38.97.68.126] has joined #debian
10:56-!-alexpbrown is "purple" on #debian #debian-next
10:56-!-towo` [~towo@00012f0f.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
10:56-!-towo` is "Torsten -towo- Wohlfarth" on #debian.de-offtopic #siduction-admin #siduction-dev #siduction-de #siduction #debian-offtopic #debian-next #debian #aptosid
10:57-!-NomadJim__ [~Jim@72.168.160.190] has joined #debian
10:57-!-NomadJim__ is "Nomad" on #debian #linode
10:58-!-NomadJim_ [~Jim@72.168.160.190] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
10:59-!-dvs [~hibbard@00012127.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
11:00-!-dtw [dtw@00019e8c.user.oftc.net] has left #debian []
11:02-!-Q-Master [~q-master@2.93.110.84] has joined #debian
11:02-!-Q-Master is "Vladimir Berezenko" on #debianppc #debian-next #debian
11:04-!-Tuor [~Tuor@212.25.21.185] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
11:04-!-jathan [~jathan@206.167.44.205] has joined #debian
11:04-!-jathan is "realname" on @#debian-infra #debian-reproducible #debian-es #debian-fr #debian-i18n #debian-kbsd #debian-l10n-spanish #debian-live #debian-lts #debian-lxqt #debian-mentors #debian-mentors-es #debian-mobile #debian-mx #debian-mysql #debian-next #debian-ni #debian-offtopic #debian-openstack #debian-publicity #debian-quebec #debian-systemd #debian-android-tools #debian #debconf-video #debconf-infra #debconf18-taiwan #debconf #tor #tails #munin
11:04-!-tda [~tmerriam@12-231-200-67.producersnational.com] has left #debian []
11:05-!-Q-Master [~q-master@2.93.110.84] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
11:05-!-Q-Master [~q-master@2.93.110.84] has joined #debian
11:05-!-Q-Master is "Vladimir Berezenko" on #debian-next #debian #debianppc
11:05-!-Rosco2 [~RossGammo@188-178-219-222-dynamic.dk.customer.tdc.net] has joined #debian
11:05-!-Rosco2 is "Ross Gammon" on #debconf #debconf17-woody #debconf17-rex #debconf17-potato #debconf17-buzz #debconf17-bo #debian-science #debian-gnome #debian-js #debian-nordic #debian-multimedia #debian-mentors #debian-gis #debian-bugs #debian
11:05-!-Delta-One [~zero@static-193-14-171-227.cust.tele2.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
11:05-!-jathan [~jathan@206.167.44.205] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
11:06-!-jathan [~jathan@206.167.44.205] has joined #debian
11:06-!-jathan is "realname" on #debconf-video #debian #debian-android-tools #debian-systemd #debian-quebec #debian-publicity #debian-openstack #debian-offtopic #debian-ni #debian-next #debian-mysql #debian-mx #debian-mobile #debian-mentors-es #debian-mentors #debian-lxqt #debian-lts #debian-live #debian-l10n-spanish #debian-kbsd #debian-i18n #debian-fr #debian-es #debian-reproducible @#debian-infra
11:06-!-ewankeep [~ewan@97-127-41-77.mpls.qwest.net] has left #debian []
11:07-!-phenomcd [~quassel@182.149.165.59] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
11:07-!-jathan [~jathan@206.167.44.205] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
11:07-!-Q-Master [~q-master@2.93.110.84] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
11:07-!-jathan [~jathan@206.167.44.205] has joined #debian
11:07-!-jathan is "realname" on #munin #tails #tor #debconf #debconf18-taiwan #debconf-infra #debconf-video #debian #debian-android-tools #debian-systemd #debian-quebec #debian-publicity #debian-openstack #debian-offtopic #debian-ni #debian-next #debian-mysql #debian-mx #debian-mobile #debian-mentors-es #debian-mentors #debian-lxqt #debian-lts #debian-live #debian-l10n-spanish #debian-kbsd #debian-i18n #debian-fr #debian-es #debian-reproducible @#debian-infra
11:08-!-KOJIbKA [~nikobit@188.124.240.151] has joined #debian
11:08-!-KOJIbKA is "Nikolay Bitsadze" on #debian
11:08-!-spacebug^ [~spacebug@185.86.106.155] has quit [Quit: brb]
11:08-!-jathan [~jathan@206.167.44.205] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
11:09-!-KindOne [kindone@kindone.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
11:10-!-imperia [~imperia@93.152.164.51] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
11:11-!-Q-Master [~q-master@2.93.110.84] has joined #debian
11:11-!-Q-Master is "Vladimir Berezenko" on #debian #debianppc #debian-next
11:11-!-spacebug- [~spacebug@185.86.106.149] has joined #debian
11:11-!-spacebug- is "spacebug" on #debian
11:11-!-spacebug- is now known as spacebug^
11:13-!-imperia [~imperia@93.152.164.51] has joined #debian
11:13-!-imperia is "imperia" on #debian-next #debian
11:15-!-thunderrd [~thunderrd@thunderrd.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
11:15-!-thunderrd is "realname" on #aptosid #ck #debian #siduction @#GamersOnLinux #oftc
11:19-!-antgel [~topdog@82.166.98.41] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
11:20-!-RiverM [~rio@158.69.84.56] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
11:22-!-nikoala [~niko@80.30.128.11] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
11:22-!-a2 [~jlbg@82.158.232.125.dyn.user.ono.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
11:24-!-jmlongo [~jmlongo@200.12.137.20] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
11:25-!-sadrak|work [~ostmann@p57B701E2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
11:27-!-valessio is "Valessio Brito" on #debconf-video #debian-publicity #spi #debian-www @#stretch #debian-devel-br #debian-l10n-br
11:27-!-valessio [uid150324@00012203.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
11:27<adhawkins>Anyone help with my pptp VPN issue, or recommend a better place to ask? Set up to allow remote clients access into my local network. Was working fine until the upgrade to Stretch, now no traffic is being sent back over the ppp network device. It appears that there's no route set up for it.
11:28<adhawkins>Can someone suggest an appropriate command to manually set up the route, to initially test that this is the cause of the VPN not working. I can then try to work out why the route isn't being created automatically.
11:28-!-hadret [~hadret@hadret.sh] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.7.1]
11:29-!-Jojan [~Jojan@90-229-214-144-no98.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #debian
11:29-!-Jojan is "Johan" on #debian
11:29<adhawkins>IP and route info is here: http://paste.debian.net/980429/
11:30<adhawkins>I've replaced my public IP address and network with xx.xx.xx.xx in the route output for eth0
11:30-!-rbalint [~rbalint@206.167.44.205] has joined #debian
11:30-!-rbalint is "purple" on #debian
11:31-!-solarwind [~eezee@000264a4.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
11:31<adhawkins>Apologies, missed one instance of my public IP. New paste: http://paste.debian.net/980430/
11:31-!-hadret [~hadret@hadret.sh] has joined #debian
11:31-!-hadret is "Filip Chabik" on #kernelnewbies #debian
11:31-!-bw123_ [~b17@108.103.79.61] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
11:32-!-bw123 [~b17@108.103.79.61] has joined #debian
11:32-!-bw123 is "b17" on #debian
11:32-!-ach [~spo@ip-109-43-0-64.web.vodafone.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
11:33-!-KOJIbKA [~nikobit@188.124.240.151] has quit [Quit: KOJIbKA]
11:36-!-narcan [~narcan@176-57-33-240.as16211.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
11:37-!-jplejacq [~jplejacq@168.244.11.22] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
11:38-!-tuxampol [~Mylin@aftr-185-17-207-38.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has joined #debian
11:38-!-tuxampol is "Quasi" on #debian
11:38-!-Brigo [~Brigo@2.58.27.77.dynamic.reverse-mundo-r.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
11:39-!-ach [~spo@ip-109-43-2-80.web.vodafone.de] has joined #debian
11:39-!-ach is "spooky" on #debian
11:41-!-bluca [~lboccass@2a00:23c5:bef3:400:4a51:b7ff:fe0b:4749] has joined #debian
11:41-!-bluca is "purple" on #debian-efi #debian-next #debian-ftp #debian
11:44-!-illwieckz [~illwieckz@37.171.65.73] has joined #debian
11:44-!-illwieckz is "Thomas DEBESSE" on #debianfr #debian-bugs #debian
11:48-!-mythos [~mythos@85-124-64-143.static.upcbusiness.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
11:50-!-jrms [~jrms@li92-37.members.linode.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
11:52-!-thunderrd_ [~thunderrd@119.42.85.189] has joined #debian
11:52-!-thunderrd_ is "realname" on #aptosid #ck #debian #siduction #GamersOnLinux #oftc
11:53-!-giaur [~quassel@bcv56.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
11:54-!-jplejacq [~jplejacq@168.244.11.22] has joined #debian
11:54-!-jplejacq is "Jean Pierre LeJacq" on #debian-kde #debian
11:54-!-Brigo [~Brigo@249.59.27.77.dynamic.reverse-mundo-r.com] has joined #debian
11:54-!-Brigo is "realname" on #debian #debian-es #debian-next #debian-offtopic #debian-mentors
11:55-!-Rosco2 [~RossGammo@188-178-219-222-dynamic.dk.customer.tdc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
11:56-!-esaym153 [~esaym153@75-1-182-8.lightspeed.snantx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #debian
11:56-!-esaym153 is "esaym153" on #debian-offtopic #debian
11:57-!-thunderrd [~thunderrd@thunderrd.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
11:58-!-marcus______ [~marcus@c-b82272d5.014-990-7570702.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #debian
11:58-!-marcus______ is "Marcus Lundblad" on #debian #osm.se-spam #OSM.se #debian-gnome
11:59-!-sqirrrl [~quassel@firey.lsexperts.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
12:01-!-rbalint [~rbalint@206.167.44.205] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
12:02-!-solarwind [~eezee@000264a4.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
12:02-!-solarwind is "realname" on #debian #moocows
12:03-!-solarwind [~eezee@000264a4.user.oftc.net] has quit []
12:04<adhawkins>Ok, I think I've worked out the issue. I had a script running after the ppp link was set up, adding 4 to the mtu value that had been configured to work around a problem in the microsoft VPN client.
12:04<adhawkins>This was parsing the output of ifconfig, which has obviously changed in Stretch.
12:04-!-shiftplusone [~shift@217.33.127.173] has joined #debian
12:04-!-shiftplusone is "realname" on #debian
12:04<adhawkins>I've changed it to hard-code the value rather than try and work it out, and this seems to have at least brought my VPN connection back up.
12:04<adhawkins>Now need to fix the script properly :)
12:05-!-sevu [~Shiki@p54855BDF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
12:07-!-Rosco2 [~RossGammo@188-178-219-222-dynamic.dk.customer.tdc.net] has joined #debian
12:07-!-Rosco2 is "Ross Gammon" on #debconf #debconf17-woody #debconf17-rex #debconf17-potato #debconf17-buzz #debconf17-bo #debian-science #debian-gnome #debian-js #debian-nordic #debian-multimedia #debian-mentors #debian-gis #debian-bugs #debian
12:07<adhawkins>It's not pretty. Anyone suggest a 'nicer' way?
12:07<adhawkins>CURRENT_MTU="`ip addr show dev $1 | grep mtu | awk '{print $5;}'`"
12:11-!-Valvalion [~Valvalion@91.180.141.177] has joined #debian
12:11-!-Valvalion is "Valvalion" on #debian
12:11-!-wargreen [~wargreen@2a01:e35:2ec5:f030:3419:cab6:7fce:1f5f] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
12:11-!-SuperDale [dalek@207.187.233.220.static.exetel.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
12:12-!-mvanorder [~mvanorder@173.38.117.87] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
12:12-!-brian [~brian@8.46.40.253] has joined #debian
12:12-!-brian is "Brian DeRocher" on @#kdevelop #debian-kde #debian
12:13-!-mvanorder [~mvanorder@2001:420:2281:1321:14bf:bbce:860a:faa2] has joined #debian
12:13-!-mvanorder is "realname" on #debian
12:13-!-lpouzenc [~lpouzenc@2a02-8420-6754-af01-f482-0d1d-f654-b387.rev.sfr.net] has joined #debian
12:13-!-lpouzenc is "Ludovic Pouzenc" on #debian #debian-gnome #debian-tech #debian-fr
12:14<shiftplusone>on jessie, when grub-install ran, it didn't care about the return code of efibootmgr. With stretch, that behavior has been patched. As a result grub-install fails when efi vars are no available. Is this intended? Previously, when efibootmgr failed, grub-install would complete happily and the system would boot off the hard drive in uefi mode.
12:14<shiftplusone>It still does, but you have to tell the installer to continue without installing the bootloader.
12:17-!-mythos [~mythos@84-112-170-161.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined #debian
12:17-!-mythos is "mythos" on #debian #debian-gnome #debian-offtopic
12:17<shiftplusone>The relevant patch: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/grub-devel/2017-01/msg00107.html
12:18-!-jplejacq [~jplejacq@168.244.11.22] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
12:18-!-jplejacq [~jplejacq@168.244.11.22] has joined #debian
12:18-!-jplejacq is "Jean Pierre LeJacq" on #debian-kde #debian
12:19-!-SuperDale [dalek@207.187.233.220.static.exetel.com.au] has joined #debian
12:19-!-SuperDale is "dale" on #debian
12:20-!-user0 [~user0@p4FF09681.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #debian
12:20-!-user0 is "realname" on #debian
12:20-!-tetrapovicc [~trifyl@2a01:cb19:85b4:db00:224:8cff:fe4f:fe7d] has joined #debian
12:20-!-tetrapovicc is "trifyl" on #debian-fr #debian
12:22-!-mahit [~mahit@117.249.229.142] has joined #debian
12:22-!-mahit is "realname" on #debian
12:22-!-mahit [~mahit@117.249.229.142] has quit []
12:23-!-ftoledo [~ftoledo@190.210.228.149] has joined #debian
12:23-!-ftoledo is "Fernando Toledo" on #debian
12:23-!-ftoledo [~ftoledo@190.210.228.149] has quit []
12:24-!-derekjc [~derek@106.201.127.33] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
12:26<user0>hi there, I have a problem with my #apt update; seemingly, _apt can't manage its part. I already asked several people, so I would be happy with a "creative" answer :-)
12:27-!-Brigo [~Brigo@249.59.27.77.dynamic.reverse-mundo-r.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
12:27<bw123>user0: several people in here couldn't solve it?
12:27<shiftplusone>ignore my question. It seems like there is a problem with my setup and the fact that efivars is not available is a symptom of a bigger problem.
12:28<user0>Walex tried very well/good, but then I had to leave :-(
12:28<annadane>user0, describe your problem, and also
12:28<annadane>!bat
12:28<dpkg>In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>.
12:29<bw123>if the channel can't solve it in a day or two i think you go to debian-user list
12:29-!-eagullone [~EagullOne@00020a19.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
12:29-!-eagullone is "Alexandre" on #debian #smuxi
12:30-!-wompa [~wompa@0001ac92.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
12:30-!-wompa is "Tomas Heikkilä" on #linux #debian-offtopic #debian-next #debian
12:31-!-eagullone [~EagullOne@00020a19.user.oftc.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
12:31<annadane>debian-user@lists.debian.org
12:32-!-dooglus [~biufter@ec2-54-247-189-77.eu-west-1.compute.amazonaws.com] has joined #debian
12:32-!-dooglus is "dooglus" on #debian @#dooglus
12:33<bw123>it's a good list but lot of spam lately in french
12:33-!-Delta-One [~zero@2001:2002:51e2:7ba1:6391:acc7:b55f:c617] has joined #debian
12:33-!-Delta-One is "Patrick Franz" on #debian-kde #debian #debian-nordic #debian.se #debian-next
12:34-!-marioxcc [~mario@2806:10a6:5:fe85:a833:351a:1744:ab08] has joined #debian
12:34-!-marioxcc is "purple" on #debian
12:34<marioxcc>Hello.
12:35<marioxcc>Can you suggest an alarm program for GNU/Linux like kalarm? It must be graphical. I am looking for an alternative to kalarm because kalarm has too many dependencies and requires a heavyweight database server.
12:36-!-user0 [~user0@p4FF09681.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
12:37-!-diefi [~Fi@2001:a61:1b3:9f01:99b7:907d:9fa2:8c43] has joined #debian
12:37-!-diefi is "Die" on #debian #smuxi
12:37-!-Brigo [~Brigo@249.59.27.77.dynamic.reverse-mundo-r.com] has joined #debian
12:37-!-Brigo is "realname" on #debian #debian-es #debian-next #debian-offtopic #debian-mentors
12:38<bw123>marioxcc: anything graphical seems to have at least gtk2 dependencies, i just use crontab and aosd_cat
12:38-!-AzaToth [~azatoth@h87-96-232-219.cust.se.alltele.net] has joined #debian
12:38-!-AzaToth is "Carl Fürstenberg" on #debian-perl #debian-mentors #debian
12:39<marioxcc>bw123: GTK2 dependencies are ok. The problem is that kalarm depends on mariadb and a crapload of KDE specific libraries.
12:39<marioxcc>Go figure, a full database server is required for kalarm.
12:39<bw123>yeh, i know there is a prog called skrooge i really like but it's 50mb with dependencies
12:39-!-jguillen [~jguillen@244.red-81-35-70.dynamicip.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
12:39-!-jguillen is "realname" on #debian-arm #debian
12:39<bw123>did you try apt-cache search alarm ?
12:40-!-mufflon [~quassel@77-253-184-13.adsl.inetia.pl] has joined #debian
12:40-!-mufflon is "Mufflon,,," on #debian #debian-next
12:42<marioxcc>bw123: Not exactly, but I searched "?description(alarm)" in aptitude.
12:42-!-thunderrd_ [~thunderrd@119.42.85.189] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
12:42<marioxcc>I'm still trying those programs.
12:42-!-brian_ [~brian@8.46.40.253] has joined #debian
12:42-!-brian_ is "Brian DeRocher" on @#kdevelop #debian-kde #debian
12:42-!-brian_ is now known as openbrian
12:44<bw123>marioxcc: i bet there's a good substitute, there usually is. Stuff is hard to find though, I usually use the packages.debian.org page and click on 'similar' programs
12:44-!-holmgren [magnus@h-70-93.A163.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #debian
12:44-!-holmgren is "Magnus Holmgren" on @#debian-se #debian-mentors #debconf #debian
12:44-!-pavlushka [~pavlushka@00021abb.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
12:44-!-pavlushka is "pavlushka" on #linode #debian #oftc
12:44<bw123>or 'related' or whatver it's called
12:44<marioxcc>bw123: Ok. So far I have found none like kalarm in terms of features. Many of these programs can only have an alarm for a single time, or they have poor configurability for repeat alarms.
12:45<marioxcc>I will try what you suggested. Thanks.
12:45-!-openbrian [~brian@8.46.40.253] has quit []
12:45-!-brian [~brian@8.46.40.253] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
12:46-!-Brigo [~Brigo@249.59.27.77.dynamic.reverse-mundo-r.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
12:46<diefi>I have an issue with gnome 3.22, active windows aren't brought to foreground even though I have automatically raise window active
12:47-!-ao2__ [~ao2@host179-142-dynamic.6-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
12:48-!-diefi [~Fi@2001:a61:1b3:9f01:99b7:907d:9fa2:8c43] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
12:51-!-user0 [~user0@p4FF09681.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #debian
12:51-!-user0 is "realname" on #debian
12:52-!-herbmillerjr [~herbmille@50-248-67-123-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #debian
12:52-!-herbmillerjr is "realname" on #debian-xfce #debian-arm #debian
12:52-!-Katy [~kt@p5DE86A91.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #debian
12:52-!-Katy is "R.K." on #debian
12:52<bw123>diefi: active windows? do you mean when you run a program?
12:52-!-Katy is now known as rkta
12:53<user0>hi there, I have a problem with my #apt update; seemingly, _apt can't manage its part. I already asked several people, so I would be happy with a "creative" answer :-) Walex tried very well/good, but then I had to leave :-(
12:54-!-shiftplusone [~shift@217.33.127.173] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
12:55-!-kathenas [~kathenas@79-74-86-180.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
12:56<bw123>user0: i took a quick look this morning i think at one of your pastes. had a lot of 'tot' connections in it?
12:56<bw123>i mean TOR
12:57<marioxcc>user0: Phrase your problem as a question and ask it. Somebody may be willing and able to help you.
13:01-!-yoh [~yoh@washoe.dartmouth.edu] has joined #debian
13:01-!-yoh is "Yaroslav Halchenko" on #datalad #debian #debian-med #debian-science #neurodebian
13:01-!-user0_ [~user0@p4FF09681.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #debian
13:01-!-user0_ is "realname" on #debian
13:01<user0_>hi there, I have a problem with my #apt update; seemingly, _apt can't manage its part. I already asked several people, so I would be happy with a "creative" answer :-) Walex tried very well/good, but then I had to leave :-(
13:01<user0_>I wanted to start KGpg right now and got the following error (rest not in english): gpg: WARNING: unsafe permissions on homedir '/home/user0/.gnupg'
13:02<bw123>ls -al |grep .gnupg
13:02<bw123>drwx------
13:03-!-user0 [~user0@p4FF09681.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
13:05<user0_>drwxrwxrwx
13:05-!-B0rk_Meister6six6 [~B0rk_Meis@24-181-53-187.dhcp.gnvl.sc.charter.com] has joined #debian
13:05-!-B0rk_Meister6six6 is "realname" on #debian #tor #privacytools.io
13:06<bw123>yeh that's why i never use chown
13:06<user0_>drwxrwxrwx 5 user0 user0 4096 Aug 8 13:50 .gnupg
13:06<bw123>i set that stuff with mc
13:06-!-tuxampol [~Mylin@aftr-185-17-207-38.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend]
13:07<bw123>chmod too
13:08<user0_>drwxr--r-- 5 user0 user0 4096 Aug 8 13:50 .gnupg
13:08<user0_>better?
13:08<bw123>n
13:09<user0_>n???
13:10-!-kathenas [~kathenas@79-74-86-180.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #debian
13:10-!-kathenas is "Phil Wyett" on #debian-www #debconf #debian #debian-cd #debian-qa #debian-offtopic #debian-mentors #debian-derivatives #debian-gnome #debian-live #debian-next
13:10<user0_>no? what's the matter?
13:10-!-Haudegen [~quassel@212-186-77-29.static.upcbusiness.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
13:11-!-semeion [~semeion@0001996c.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.9]
13:11-!-preview__ [~quassel@2407:7000:842d:4000::3] has joined #debian
13:11-!-preview__ is "preview" on #debian
13:11-!-preview__ [~quassel@2407:7000:842d:4000::3] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
13:11<user0_>bw123 do you know some hint for my gnupg issue?
13:12-!-B0rk_Meister666 [~B0rk_Meis@144.48.104.42] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
13:12<bw123>if you don't have keys already just delete .gnupg or else set the right perm
13:12-!-MarkedOne_ [~milan@bband-dyn176.95-103-95.t-com.sk] has joined #debian
13:12-!-MarkedOne_ is "Milan Vanca" on #debian
13:12-!-MarkedOne_ is now known as MarkedOne
13:13<user0_>is _apt supposed to get writing perm for .gnupg?
13:13<bw123>i doubt it, but it's possible
13:13<MarkedOne>Hello, I am looking for skype alternative.. for voice, video calls or conferences.
13:14-!-towo` [~towo@00012f0f.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
13:14<bw123>why would _apt user be able to write user0 keys?
13:14-!-semeion [~semeion@0001996c.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
13:14-!-semeion is "semeion" on #help #oftc #lxde #debian-br #debian #openbox #bitlbee
13:14<user0_>MarkedOne mumble is a voice chat, 1 solved ;-)
13:15-!-pavlushka [~pavlushka@00021abb.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
13:15-!-rbalint [~rbalint@206.167.44.205] has joined #debian
13:15-!-rbalint is "purple" on #debian
13:16-!-skitt [~skitt@skitt.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
13:16<MarkedOne>user0_: Thank you for hint, I will check that.
13:16-!-ansel [~ansel@2003:5b:203b:100:6af7:28ff:fe06:801] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
13:16<user0_>MarkedOne: there's also ring (ring.cx). never tested, but description is promising
13:17-!-ach [~spo@ip-109-43-2-80.web.vodafone.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
13:20-!-ach [~spo@ip-109-43-1-7.web.vodafone.de] has joined #debian
13:20-!-ach is "spooky" on #debian
13:21-!-zyley [~n@dsl-lhtbrasgw2-54f832-156.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
13:22<annadane>MarkedOne, matrix?
13:22<annadane>not sure if it does video however
13:22<annadane>i guess matrix is just a protocol, riot being the client
13:23-!-marioxcc [~mario@2806:10a6:5:fe85:a833:351a:1744:ab08] has left #debian []
13:23<itd>MarkedOne: https://meet.jit.si/ - you can(/should) host it yourself.
13:23-!-tuxampol [~Mylin@aftr-185-17-207-38.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has joined #debian
13:23-!-tuxampol is "Quasi" on #debian
13:24<annadane>well, riot being *a* client, among others
13:28-!-lpouzenc [~lpouzenc@2a02-8420-6754-af01-f482-0d1d-f654-b387.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Quit: lpouzenc]
13:28-!-olinuxx [~capturixe@2a01:cb11:416:ed00:c8e3:c1e7:9aec:f3f5] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
13:28-!-rbalint [~rbalint@206.167.44.205] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
13:30-!-NomadJim_ [~Jim@72.168.160.190] has joined #debian
13:30-!-NomadJim_ is "Nomad" on #debian #linode
13:30<user0_>I tried #apt update right now and a "special" repo is ignored... Ign:7 http://ftp2.de.debian.org/debian stable Release.gpg
13:30-!-NomadJim__ [~Jim@72.168.160.190] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
13:31<user0_>should I purge gnupg and reinstall? https://paste.debian.net/980453/
13:34-!-lpouzenc_ [~lpouzenc@2a02-8420-6754-af01-fc7d-0f3f-e6c3-dfd4.rev.sfr.net] has joined #debian
13:34-!-lpouzenc_ is "Ludovic Pouzenc" on #debian #debian-gnome #debian-tech #debian-fr
13:34-!-lpouzenc_ [~lpouzenc@2a02-8420-6754-af01-fc7d-0f3f-e6c3-dfd4.rev.sfr.net] has quit []
13:35-!-DarkPi [~darkknigh@cpe-174-103-189-202.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #debian
13:35-!-DarkPi is "The Dark Knight" on #debian-offtopic #debian
13:36-!-njumdl2014 [~mdl@104.39.74.189] has quit [Quit: njumdl2014]
13:36<annadane>i would doubt it
13:36<annadane>but let other people comment
13:37<bw123>cat /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list
13:37-!-diefi [~Fi@2001:a61:1b3:9f01:8dcf:83c8:3252:79ad] has joined #debian
13:37-!-diefi is "Die" on #debian #smuxi
13:38<diefi>is there a command to reset all the gnome-shell settings?
13:38<jmcnaught>bw123: do you have the debian-archive-keyring package installed? What version is it?
13:39-!-tuxampol [~Mylin@aftr-185-17-207-38.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend]
13:39-!-solarwind [~eezee@000264a4.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
13:39-!-solarwind is "realname" on #moocows #debian
13:39<bw123>debian-archive-keyring:
13:39<bw123> Installed: 2017.5
13:39<bw123>500 http://deb.debian.org/debian stretch/main amd64 Packages
13:41-!-Brigo [~Brigo@249.59.27.77.dynamic.reverse-mundo-r.com] has joined #debian
13:41-!-Brigo is "realname" on #debian #debian-es #debian-next #debian-offtopic #debian-mentors
13:41<jmcnaught>bw123: okay good. now i'm looking more closely at your paste and it's complaining that the InRelease file is not signed. Have you tried a different mirror?
13:41-!-rbalint [~rbalint@206.167.44.205] has joined #debian
13:41-!-rbalint is "purple" on #debian
13:41<bw123>jmcnaught: ask user0 my apt is flawless
13:42-!-user [~user@host19-103-dynamic.41-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #debian
13:42-!-user is "realname" on #debian
13:42-!-user [~user@host19-103-dynamic.41-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit []
13:42<annadane>was going to say... bw123 isn't the one with the problem
13:43<bw123>annadane: well i have problems but not apt :P
13:43<jmcnaught>haha oh right sorrty
13:44<jmcnaught>i'm a little distracted, i'll come back when i'm less busy
13:44-!-jhutchins_wk [~jonathan@12.126.86.122] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
13:45<annadane>user0_, do you have the debian-archive-keyring package installed? What version is it? i'm looking more closely at your paste and it's complaining that the InRelease file is not signed. Have you tried a different mirrror? :D
13:45<bw123>jmcnaught: i think you right though it's a sources problem
13:46<bw123>the deb.debian thing works good for me but maybe not for everyone
13:47<jmcnaught>deb.debian.org++
13:47<bw123>yeh, some kind of redirect service?
13:49-!-debalance [~quassel@00017b9a.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
13:50-!-user0_ [~user0@p4FF09681.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
13:50-!-user0_ [~user0@p4FF09681.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #debian
13:50-!-user0_ is "realname" on #debian
13:51-!-jguillen [~jguillen@244.red-81-35-70.dynamicip.rima-tde.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
13:51-!-Linked [~Chained@pool-33.41.186.91.dynamic.wobline-ip.de] has joined #debian
13:51-!-Linked is "realname" on #debian
13:51-!-jguillen [~jguillen@244.red-81-35-70.dynamicip.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
13:51-!-jguillen is "realname" on #debian-arm #debian
13:51-!-njumdl2014 [~mdl@104.39.74.189] has joined #debian
13:51-!-njumdl2014 is "mudongliang" on #debian
13:51<user0_># LC_ALL=C apt install debian-archive-keyring
13:51<user0_>Reading package lists... Done
13:51<user0_>Building dependency tree
13:51<user0_>Reading state information... Done
13:51<user0_>debian-archive-keyring is already the newest version (2017.5).
13:51<user0_>0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
13:51-!-jguillen [~jguillen@244.red-81-35-70.dynamicip.rima-tde.net] has quit []
13:51-!-kishore [~user@157.48.8.152] has joined #debian
13:51-!-kishore is "realname" on #debian
13:52<kishore>hello
13:52-!-diefi [~Fi@2001:a61:1b3:9f01:8dcf:83c8:3252:79ad] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
13:52-!-kishore [~user@157.48.8.152] has quit []
13:52-!-solarwind [~eezee@000264a4.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
13:54<bw123>what about apt-key update
13:54<bw123>update (deprecated)
13:54<bw123> Update the local keyring with the archive keyring and remove from
13:54<bw123> the local keyring the archive keys which are no longer valid
13:56-!-rbalint [~rbalint@206.167.44.205] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
14:00-!-olinuxx [~capturixe@2a01:cb11:416:ed00:f011:e702:30e4:1080] has joined #debian
14:00-!-olinuxx is "Olivier Humbert" on #oftc #linux-rt #debian-next #debian-multimedia #debian-mirrors #debian-mentors #debian-mate #debian-live #debian-l10n-fr #debian-france #debian-fr #debian-edu #debian-boot #debian
14:02-!-jplejacq [~jplejacq@168.244.11.22] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
14:02<Epakai>is gdb supposed to automatically find symbols from -dbgsym packages? I was able to manually load them with the 'file /usr/lib/debug/.build-id/...' command, but that's kind of guess and check when there's multiple binaries
14:03<Gabriel_7>Epakai: I'm tempted to say it should https://sourceware.org/gdb/onlinedocs/gdb/Separate-Debug-Files.html
14:03<Gabriel_7>Did'nt try however.
14:04<annadane>user0_, bw123,
14:04<annadane>!paste
14:04<dpkg>Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>.
14:05-!-valessio [uid150324@00012203.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity]
14:06-!-towo` [~towo@00012f0f.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
14:06-!-towo` is "Torsten -towo- Wohlfarth" on #debian.de-offtopic #siduction-admin #siduction-dev #siduction-de #siduction #debian-offtopic #debian-next #debian #aptosid
14:06-!-nism0 [~oftc-webi@afac21.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #debian
14:06-!-nism0 is "OFTC WebIRC Client" on #debian
14:07<nism0>hey there
14:07<annadane>though i guess that doesn't really apply to bw123 as it was meant to be informative in the channel
14:07<nism0>why Debian asks for CD while installing it via USB stick?
14:07<Epakai>Ah, i sorted it. Had the dbgsym package from my unstable build
14:08<nism0>mounting USB stick under /cdrom doesn't resolve the issue
14:08<bw123>that bot is pretty long winded too, it took 5 lines to tell me not to paste 3
14:09-!-dvs [~hibbard@00012127.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
14:09-!-dvs is "realname" on #debian
14:09<bw123>nism0: i think that's from a bad write, did you use dd to make the usb?
14:09<nism0>nope
14:09<nism0>I used "yumi" to make usb
14:09<annadane>bw123, yeah, sorry.
14:09<nism0>https://www.pendrivelinux.com/yumi-multiboot-usb-creator/
14:09<bw123>why not use dd, dd is delicious
14:10<nism0>cause I have no access to linux instalation ;P
14:10<nism0>I was looking for windows tool
14:10-!-jhutchins_wk [~jonathan@12.126.86.122] has joined #debian
14:10-!-jhutchins_wk is "Jonathan Hutchins" on #oftc #debian
14:11<bw123>well congratulations there may be something on the faq where the images are
14:11<user0_>OK? https://paste.debian.net/980463/
14:11-!-jplejacq [~jplejacq@168.244.11.29] has joined #debian
14:11-!-jplejacq is "Jean Pierre LeJacq" on #debian-kde #debian
14:12-!-KindOne [kindone@kindone.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
14:12-!-KindOne is "..." on #utdlug #tor-offtopic #suckless #qemu #php #ovirt #osm #oftc @#mirc #linuxfs #linode #libevent #https-everywhere #globaleaks #gentoo #gcc #g7 #freenode #debian-next #debian #debconf #ceph #bcache #awesome #attic
14:13<bw123>nism0: try this http://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#record-windows
14:15-!-zyley [~n@dsl-lhtbrasgw2-54f832-156.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #debian
14:15-!-zyley is "realname" on #moocows #oftc #debian-offtopic #debian-next #debian
14:18-!-user0_ [~user0@p4FF09681.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
14:18<nism0>btw123: TY
14:20<annadane>surprised it doesn't mention win32diskimager
14:20<bw123>yeh it does further down, there's another section for usb
14:21-!-Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87] has joined #debian
14:21-!-Haudegen is "AP,,," on #debian-kde #debian #debian-next
14:21<nism0>yea, but that section says about dd ;)
14:22<bw123>i never heard of yumi but i heard of yum
14:22<annadane>sounds yummy.
14:22<bw123>maybe yumi has a setting to write as img or something?
14:22<nism0>I'm trying unetbootin right now
14:22-!-N-Mi [~nicolas@office.ibrowse.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
14:22<bw123>instead of making a cd header
14:23<jmcnaught>nism0: unetbootin is known to cause problems, same with rufus and others like it. If you want it to work, use win32diskimager. Also highly recommended to read the install manual, 30 minutes of reading can save hours of frustration
14:23-!-KindOne_ [kindone@h107.177.190.173.ip.windstream.net] has joined #debian
14:23-!-KindOne_ is "..." on #utdlug #tor-offtopic #suckless #qemu #php #ovirt #osm #oftc #linuxfs #linode #libevent #https-everywhere #globaleaks #gentoo #gcc #g7 #freenode #debian-next #debian #debconf #ceph #bcache #awesome #attic
14:25-!-Aleksej [~oftc-webi@109.172.69.18] has joined #debian
14:25-!-Aleksej is "OFTC WebIRC Client" on #debian
14:26<bw123>man that would suck to only have access to a win machine
14:27<nism0>jmcnaught: thx for advice. I'll try win32diskimager
14:27<nism0>bw123: yup. I've broken my Debian 8 installation
14:27<annadane>my first linux experience was with rufus. so much better when things actually install properly
14:27<nism0>I had no udev funcionality
14:27<nism0>I couldn't even reinstall it because of unmet dependencies
14:28<bw123>nism0: always good to have a live handy, even an old rescue disk
14:28<nism0>heheh
14:28-!-KindOne- [kindone@h3.167.186.173.dynamic.ip.windstream.net] has joined #debian
14:28-!-KindOne- is "..." on #utdlug #tor-offtopic #suckless #qemu #php #ovirt #osm #oftc #linuxfs #linode #libevent #https-everywhere #globaleaks #gentoo #gcc #g7 #freenode #debian-next #debian #debconf #ceph #bcache #awesome #attic
14:28<nism0>I've got a few of them
14:28<nism0>but each one is too scratched ;P
14:28<annadane>don't people usually recommend ubuntu rescue disks? i'm not sure if debian has them
14:28<nism0>annadane: AFAIK there's no Debian rescue disk
14:29<bw123>i have one called 'standard' from squeeze used it many times
14:29<jmcnaught>the netinst has a a rescue mode
14:29<bw123>just a plain boot prompt live image
14:29<annadane>yes, there is indeed rescue mode
14:30-!-KindOne [kindone@kindone.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
14:30-!-KindOne- is now known as KindOne
14:30<jmcnaught>rescue mode on the installer can do thing like reinstall grub, give you a chroot shell
14:30<nism0>that's a fact
14:30<nism0>OK guys. brb
14:30<nism0>I'll give unetbootin a try
14:31<nism0>brb
14:31-!-nism0 [~oftc-webi@afac21.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
14:31<jmcnaught>why are they trying something we told them wouldn't work?
14:31<Aleksej>Hi! Does anybody here use GDM3 with Wayland disabled? Do you experience delays during system shutdown?
14:31<jmcnaught>is it sunday?
14:32<bw123>jmcnaught: only the truly wise learn from other people's mistakes
14:32<annadane>i... wow
14:32<annadane>i think we slipped into a parallel universe
14:32-!-ansel [~ansel@tmo-102-54.customers.d1-online.com] has joined #debian
14:32-!-ansel is "Andreas Seltenreich" on #debian
14:33<jmcnaught>Aleksej: does it say in your logs what the delay was? I would look in /var/log/syslog first, do a search for 0.0000 in that file to find the first lines of the most recent boot then go backwards
14:33-!-KindOne_ [kindone@h107.177.190.173.ip.windstream.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
14:34<Aleksej>jmcnaught: Thanks, but I've actually found the reason and have already reported it. I'm just trying to figure out how many people are affected.
14:34-!-nism0 [~oftc-webi@afac21.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #debian
14:34-!-nism0 is "OFTC WebIRC Client" on #debian
14:34<nism0>i am back
14:35<nism0>looks like unetbootin has done the job
14:35<jmcnaught>nism0: it might boot, but it might not install grub at the end of the installation
14:35<annadane>nism0, we specifically said _not_ to use netbootin
14:35<bw123>nism0: 4 min install man you're good
14:35<nism0>really?\
14:36<jmcnaught>nism0: should we stop giving you advice if you're not going to listen?
14:36-!-tetrapovicc [~trifyl@2a01:cb19:85b4:db00:224:8cff:fe4f:fe7d] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
14:36<nism0>annadane: yea, I know, but it works for now and I was just ending unetbootin preparation when you said that
14:36<annadane>well, redo it then
14:36<annadane>because it won't work
14:37-!-DrZaius [~kusanagi@201.165.35.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
14:37<nism0>well
14:37<nism0>I'll use win32diskimager then
14:37-!-lucascastro [~lucas@186.227.186.18] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
14:38-!-oalvarez [~alvarezp@189-212-141-164.static.axtel.net] has joined #debian
14:38-!-oalvarez is "Octavio Alvarez" on #debian #debian-devel-es #debian-es #debian-gnome #debian-ipv6 #debian-mentors #debian-mentors-es #debian-mx #debian-next @#pinpoint #packaging
14:40<jmcnaught>nism0: you're saving yourself from frustration by doing it over with the recommended tool. You'll save yourself even more frustration if you read the install manual.
14:40<annadane>which i still refuse to do :P
14:41-!-guardian [~guardian@planet-d.net] has joined #debian
14:41-!-guardian is "guardian" on #debian
14:41-!-H4ndy [~H4ndy@2a00:c1a0:c0c0:ef00:8517:a3ba:9d70:1dec] has joined #debian
14:41-!-H4ndy is "..." on #debian-next #debian
14:43-!-dvs [~hibbard@00012127.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
14:43-!-bolt [~r00t@000182e9.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
14:44<jmcnaught>annadane: it's actually quite riveting
14:45-!-valessio is "Valessio Brito" on #debconf-video #debian-publicity #spi #debian-www @#stretch #debian-devel-br #debian-l10n-br
14:45-!-valessio [uid150324@00012203.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
14:46-!-MarkedOne [~milan@bband-dyn176.95-103-95.t-com.sk] has quit [Quit: MarkedOne]
14:46-!-fifidu10 [~philippe@2a01:e35:8aa8:a890:214:d1ff:fe2d:ee56] has joined #debian
14:46-!-fifidu10 is "philippe" on @#debian-facile #debian-kde #debian
14:47-!-towo` [~towo@00012f0f.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
14:47-!-fifidu10 [~philippe@2a01:e35:8aa8:a890:214:d1ff:fe2d:ee56] has quit []
14:47<annadane>i should read it anyway to be able to help other people with their installation problems
14:49<jmcnaught>yeah. it doesn't change much from release to release so reading it once and then knowing which parts to refer to later is usually enough
14:49<nism0>looks like win32diskimager which is recommended by installation guide, doesn't work under Win10
14:49<jmcnaught>booo!
14:49<Aleksej>nism0: I have Windows 10, and win32diskimager works.
14:50<nism0>after installation i doesn't run
14:50<jmcnaught>nism0: https://sourceforge.net/projects/win32diskimager/ the description says it's for windows 10 et al.
14:51<annadane>nism0, how doesn't it run?
14:52<nism0>simpy
14:52<nism0>when I lunch Wind32DiskImager.exe nothing happens
14:53<jmcnaught>nism0: you downloaded it from the sourceforce.net link above?
14:53<nism0>*launch
14:53<nism0>yep
14:55-!-arnoldoree [~lucianang@cpc121144-nmal24-2-0-cust171.19-2.cable.virginm.net] has quit []
14:55-!-towo` [~towo@00012f0f.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
14:55-!-towo` is "Torsten -towo- Wohlfarth" on #debian.de-offtopic #siduction-admin #siduction-dev #siduction-de #siduction #debian-offtopic #debian-next #debian #aptosid
14:55<bw123>anybody know what all these set XDG_VARIABLES are for? do i need that with fluxbox?
14:56<nism0>it can't run even after reinstallation
14:56-!-rbalint [~rbalint@206.167.44.205] has joined #debian
14:56-!-rbalint is "purple" on #debian
14:57<Aleksej>nism0: Did you download a standalone zip version, or an actual installer?
14:58-!-lucascastro [~lucas@189.90.37.167.jupiter.com.br] has joined #debian
14:58-!-lucascastro is "realname" on #debian-br #debian-devel-br #debian-mentors #debian-js #debian
14:58<itd>dpkg: tell bw123 -about xdg variables
14:59-!-MagicFab [~magicfab@206.167.44.205] has joined #debian
14:59-!-MagicFab is "realname" on #debian-co #debian-fr #ubuntu-expats #debconf #debian-welcome #debian-quebec #debian
14:59-!-in1t3r [~LordShiva@in1t3r.user.oftc.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
15:02-!-njumdl2014 [~mdl@104.39.74.189] has quit [Quit: njumdl2014]
15:02<bw123>thanks itd, was just curious i don't have any xdg pkgs installed
15:02-!-Nick1296 [~nick1296@47.204.241.185] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
15:03-!-njumdl2014 [~mdl@104.39.74.189] has joined #debian
15:03-!-njumdl2014 is "mudongliang" on #debian
15:04-!-njumdl2014 [~mdl@104.39.74.189] has quit []
15:05-!-guide [guide@nerdbox.nerd2nerd.org] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
15:05-!-On4r4p791 [~ouroboros@159.203.38.146] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
15:06-!-in1t3r [~LordShiva@in1t3r.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
15:06-!-in1t3r is "in1t3r" on #virt #qemu #linode #debian-next #debian-mentors #debconf #awesome #tor #subgraph #useotr #tor-project #otr-dev #https-everywhere #cryptodotis @#bitcoin-sorcerers #debian
15:06-!-lucascastro [~lucas@189.90.37.167.jupiter.com.br] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
15:07<bw123>maybe vlc drug it in
15:08<bw123>aha, or systemd
15:08-!-nism0 [~oftc-webi@afac21.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
15:08<jmcnaught>I think logind sets some of the XDG variables
15:08-!-alex [~alex@adsl-230.37.6.3.tellas.gr] has joined #debian
15:08-!-alex is "realname" on #debian
15:08-!-towo` [~towo@00012f0f.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
15:09-!-towo` [~towo@00012f0f.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
15:09-!-towo` is "Torsten -towo- Wohlfarth" on #debian.de-offtopic #siduction-admin #siduction-dev #siduction-de #siduction #debian-offtopic #debian-next #debian #aptosid
15:09-!-alex [~alex@adsl-230.37.6.3.tellas.gr] has quit []
15:09-!-vanni__ [~vanni@120.236.174.155] has joined #debian
15:09-!-vanni__ is "realname" on #ceph #debian
15:10<bw123>sounds reliable to check for XDG_VTNR instead of (tty) ?
15:13-!-wompa [~wompa@0001ac92.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
15:13-!-Brando75 [~jcolem]@177.141.228.254] has joined #debian
15:13-!-Brando75 is "minikdo" on #debian #tor
15:13-!-Nevoluti [~futex@177.142.22.133] has joined #debian
15:13-!-rockstor [~fabian@177.143.192.96] has joined #debian
15:13-!-Nevoluti is "debchang" on #debian #tor
15:13-!-rockstor is "Brando75" on #debian #tor
15:13-!-debchang [~cef@179.105.202.39] has joined #debian
15:13-!-debchang is "liam" on #debian #tor
15:14-!-DominikS [~hiqm]@179.218.41.74] has joined #debian
15:14-!-DominikS is "isithran" on #debian #tor
15:15-!-vanni_ [~vanni@2001:250:3002:4a44:c073:ac3f:5fb0:534c] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
15:15-!-Brando75 [~jcolem]@177.141.228.254] has left #debian []
15:15-!-DominikS [~hiqm]@179.218.41.74] has left #debian []
15:15-!-Nevoluti [~futex@177.142.22.133] has left #debian []
15:15-!-rockstor [~fabian@177.143.192.96] has left #debian []
15:15-!-debchang [~cef@179.105.202.39] has left #debian []
15:15-!-Brando75 [~jcolem]@177.141.228.254] has joined #debian
15:15-!-Brando75 is "minikdo" on #debian #tor
15:15-!-DominikS is "isithran" on #debian #tor
15:15-!-DominikS [~hiqm]@179.218.41.74] has joined #debian
15:15-!-Nevoluti [~futex@177.142.22.133] has joined #debian
15:15-!-Nevoluti is "debchang" on #debian #tor
15:15-!-rockstor [~fabian@177.143.192.96] has joined #debian
15:15-!-rockstor is "Brando75" on #debian #tor
15:15-!-debchang [~cef@179.105.202.39] has joined #debian
15:15-!-debchang is "liam" on #debian #tor
15:15-!-Nevoluti is now known as Meistari
15:15-!-DominikS is now known as Spydar00
15:15-!-Brando75 is now known as me
15:15-!-me is now known as RobertSe
15:15-!-rockstor is now known as MatrixTr
15:15-!-debchang is now known as PigeonWh
15:15-!-RobertSe is now known as espectal
15:15-!-Spydar00 is now known as daemonke
15:15-!-MatrixTr is now known as Infra_36
15:15-!-PigeonWh is now known as CrypticS
15:15-!-Meistari is now known as RobertSe
15:15-!-daemonke is now known as Bryanste
15:15-!-Infra_36 is now known as voxelblo
15:15-!-espectal is now known as GichukiM
15:16-!-phorce1_ [~jalcine@186.223.127.155] has joined #debian
15:16-!-phorce1_ is "Alex[m]1" on #debian #tor
15:16-!-Bryanste is now known as twe6ti[m
15:16-!-RobertSe is now known as me
15:16-!-me is now known as DominikS
15:16-!-phorce1_ is now known as gotohome
15:16-!-GichukiM is now known as MatrixTr
15:16-!-twe6ti[m is now known as petn-ran
15:16-!-voxelblo is now known as duclicsi
15:16-!-gotohome is now known as patricko
15:16-!-DominikS is now known as Nevoluti
15:16-!-CrypticS is now known as phorce1_
15:16-!-patricko is now known as boredatw
15:16-!-Nevoluti is now known as Delta-On
15:16-!-duclicsi is now known as Scorpio[
15:16-!-Hydroxid [~sychill@187.21.73.147] has joined #debian
15:16-!-Hydroxid is "PigeonWh" on #debian #tor
15:16-!-phorce1_ is now known as aboudrea
15:16-!-Hydroxid is now known as COREILLY
15:16-!-aboudrea is now known as vincent_
15:16-!-boredatw is now known as Bryanste
15:16-!-SavoyRoa [~boredatw@187.2.219.161] has joined #debian
15:16-!-SavoyRoa is "noahm" on #debian
15:16-!-COREILLY is now known as daemonke
15:16-!-jucaroba [~Hydroxid@187.36.247.106] has joined #debian
15:16-!-jucaroba is "dbristow" on #debian
15:16-!-espectal [~keithp@187.38.114.79] has joined #debian
15:16-!-espectal is "jaiprr[m" on #debian
15:16-!-Bryanste is now known as kingsley
15:16-!-jucaroba is now known as gotohome
15:16-!-lasenna[ [~matthieu@187.37.21.115] has joined #debian
15:16-!-lasenna[ is "cae" on #debian
15:16-!-Katy [~kt@p5DE85CDC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #debian
15:16-!-Katy is "R.K." on #debian
15:16-!-vincent_ is now known as libregee
15:16<MatrixTr>ubuntu is way better than lame ass debian
15:16<daemonke>ubuntu is way better than lame ass debian
15:16<petn-ran>ubuntu is way better than lame ass debian
15:16<espectal>ubuntu is way better than lame ass debian
15:16<gotohome>ubuntu is way better than lame ass debian
15:16<kingsley>ubuntu is way better than lame ass debian
15:16<Delta-On>ubuntu is way better than lame ass debian
15:16<lasenna[>ubuntu is way better than lame ass debian
15:16<SavoyRoa>ubuntu is way better than lame ass debian
15:16<Scorpio[>ubuntu is way better than lame ass debian
15:16-!-mode/#debian [+q *!*@177.143.192.96] by FloodServ
15:16-!-libregee is now known as Alam_Squ
15:16-!-p53ud0ny [~Chex@187.37.219.31] has joined #debian
15:16-!-p53ud0ny is "Zachary_" on #debian
15:16<Alam_Squ>ubuntu is way better than lame ass debian
15:16-!-mode/#debian [+q *!*@179.105.202.39] by FloodServ
15:16-!-SavoyRoa is now known as PigeonWh
15:16-!-phebus_ [~mattcen@187.39.85.172] has joined #debian
15:16-!-phebus_ is "Alex[m]1" on #debian
15:16-!-jhutchin [~heroux@187.38.245.246] has joined #debian
15:16-!-jhutchin is "tiagoroc" on #debian
15:16-!-Hydroxid is "PigeonWh" on #debian #tor
15:16-!-Hydroxid [~Infra_36@187.65.136.63] has joined #debian
15:17-!-Delta-On is now known as jucaroba
15:17-!-Hydroxid is now known as melo12
15:17-!-petn-ran is now known as mujeebcp
15:17-!-phebus_ is now known as misterja
15:17-!-espectal is now known as debchang
15:17-!-lasenna[ is now known as jaiprr[m
15:17-!-kingsley is now known as vincent_
15:17-!-MatrixTr is now known as Infiltra
15:17-!-p53ud0ny is now known as Brando75
15:17-!-daemonke is now known as SavoyRoa
15:17-!-jucaroba is now known as MatrixTr
15:17-!-PigeonWh is now known as moellus[
15:17-!-jhutchin is now known as diegov[m
15:17-!-gotohome is now known as twe6ti[m
15:17-!-vincent_ is now known as espectal
15:17-!-gotohome [~Otter@189.100.39.3] has joined #debian
15:17-!-gotohome is "Otter" on #debian
15:17-!-debchang is now known as subsyste
15:17-!-SavoyRoa is now known as DanieleV
15:17-!-jaiprr[m is now known as Meistari
15:17-!-moellus[ is now known as pipedrea
15:17-!-MatrixTr is now known as jaiprr[m
15:17<jmcnaught>!ops nick flood
15:17<dpkg>Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: jmcnaught complains about: nick flood
15:17-!-diegov[m is now known as lasenna[
15:17-!-melo12 is now known as kingsley
15:17-!-gotohome [~Otter@189.100.39.3] has quit [autokilled: This host may be infected. Mail support@oftc.net with questions. BOPM (2017-08-08 19:17:46)]
15:17-!-Infiltra is now known as DominikS
15:17-!-twe6ti[m is now known as PigeonWh
15:18-!-mujeebcp is now known as rockstor
15:18-!-petn-ran [~moz@189.120.237.91] has joined #debian
15:18-!-petn-ran is "Brando75" on #debian
15:18-!-debchang [~SCHAPiE@189.120.202.7] has joined #debian
15:18-!-debchang is "hiq[m]" on #debian
15:18-!-misterja is now known as patricko
15:18-!-Brando75 is now known as misterja
15:18-!-Hydroxid [~phebus_@189.122.121.201] has joined #debian
15:18-!-Hydroxid is "Gabba[m]" on #debian
15:18-!-Ruebezahl [~Alf@p200300C04BE7A400626720FFFE413270.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
15:18-!-Ruebezahl [~Alf@p200300C04BE7A400626720FFFE413270.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #debian
15:18-!-Ruebezahl is "realname" on #debian #debian-edu #skolelinux.de #osm-de #debian-systemd
15:18-!-norlane [~Hobrom]@189.122.137.234] has joined #debian
15:18-!-norlane is "pamuk" on #debian
15:18-!-kelkoobe [~riftman@189.122.160.186] has joined #debian
15:18-!-kelkoobe is "Gabba[m]" on #debian
15:18-!-SavoyRoa [~berto@189.122.137.206] has joined #debian
15:18-!-SavoyRoa is "diegov[m" on #debian
15:18-!-diegov[m [~daemonke@189.122.160.175] has joined #debian
15:18-!-diegov[m is "kzar" on #debian
15:18-!-norlane is now known as MatrixTr
15:18-!-daemonke [~haircode@189.122.137.62] has joined #debian
15:18-!-daemonke is "root[m]" on #debian
15:18-!-Nick1296 [~nick1296@47.204.241.185] has joined #debian
15:18-!-Nick1296 is "Nick1296" on #debian #debian-offtopic #debian-cd
15:19-!-quasisan [~rootm]@189.122.55.20] has joined #debian
15:19-!-quasisan is "tdi" on #debian
15:19-!-IDrinkMi [~blink@189.122.79.143] has joined #debian
15:19-!-IDrinkMi is "grawity" on #debian
15:19-!-pamuk [~SavoyRoa@189.32.178.168] has joined #debian
15:19-!-pamuk is "jucaroba" on #debian
15:19-!-MagicFab [~magicfab@206.167.44.205] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
15:19-!-Infra_36 [~Grauwolf@189.34.173.57] has joined #debian
15:19-!-Infra_36 is "Hobro[m]" on #debian
15:19-!-Infiltra [~adi@189.60.113.230] has joined #debian
15:19-!-Infiltra is "Nevoluti" on #debian
15:19-!-CrypticS [~Otter@189.35.180.133] has joined #debian
15:19-!-CrypticS is "IDrinkMi" on #debian
15:19-!-jucaroba [~RiberHus@189.60.140.164] has joined #debian
15:19-!-jucaroba is "RiberHus" on #debian
15:19-!-jucaroba is now known as COREILLY
15:20-!-IDrinkMilk [~colin@0001cb00.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
15:20-!-moellus[ [~catsup@189.60.46.140] has joined #debian
15:20-!-moellus[ is "DanieleV" on #debian
15:20-!-twe6ti[m [~keithp@189.60.74.116] has joined #debian
15:20-!-twe6ti[m is "M4GNV5" on #debian
15:20-!-Nevoluti [~kingsley@189.60.47.22] has joined #debian
15:20-!-Nevoluti is "sotiri" on #debian
15:20-!-IDrinkMilk [~colin@0001cb00.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
15:20-!-IDrinkMilk is "colin" on #debian #whonix #tails #tor #subgraph
15:20-!-anders [~anders@ip130-231-210-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has joined #debian
15:20-!-anders is "anders" on #debian #codesurfers #channel #C #c++ #32in24
15:20-!-jucaroba [~ebarch@189.60.79.6] has joined #debian
15:20-!-jucaroba is "espectal" on #debian
15:21-!-On4r4p791 [~ouroboros@159.203.38.146] has joined #debian
15:21-!-On4r4p791 is "Ouroboros" on #debian
15:21-!-jucaroba is now known as Spydar00
15:21-!-melo12 [~voxelblo@189.63.22.131] has joined #debian
15:21-!-melo12 is "berto" on #debian
15:21-!-duclicsi [~espectal@191.181.90.234] has joined #debian
15:21-!-duclicsi is "urzds" on #debian
15:22-!-mormon42 [~dbristow@201.52.218.200] has joined #debian
15:22-!-mormon42 is "Alam_Squ" on #debian
15:22-!-phebus_ [~MoDaX@201.52.213.174] has joined #debian
15:22-!-phebus_ is "SWAT" on #debian
15:22-!-me [~wget@201.37.240.60] has joined #debian
15:22-!-me is "jalcine" on #debian
15:22-!-me is now known as Zachary_
15:22-!-bestucan [~Hydroxid@201.53.1.105] has joined #debian
15:22-!-bestucan is "mots" on #debian
15:22-!-ansel [~ansel@tmo-102-54.customers.d1-online.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
15:22-!-bestucan is now known as boredatw
15:23-!-frostyfr [~debchang@201.53.237.42] has joined #debian
15:23-!-frostyfr is "Guest122" on #debian
15:23-!-lordieva [~tlyu@201.53.23.118] has joined #debian
15:23-!-lordieva is "d3d83at" on #debian
15:23-!-Bryanste [~Kamilion@201.53.58.118] has joined #debian
15:23-!-Bryanste is "rmayorga" on #debian
15:23-!-rkta [~kt@p5DE86A91.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
15:23-!-Katy is now known as rkta
15:23-!-norlane [~infernix@201.6.182.223] has joined #debian
15:23-!-norlane is "jhutchin" on #debian
15:23-!-RiberHus [~riftman@201.53.98.158] has joined #debian
15:23-!-RiberHus is "Grauwolf" on #debian
15:23-!-DominikS [~jcolem]@177.141.228.254] has left #debian []
15:23-!-misterja [~Chex@187.37.219.31] has left #debian []
15:23-!-rockstor [~hiqm]@179.218.41.74] has left #debian []
15:23-!-debchang [~SCHAPiE@189.120.202.7] has left #debian []
15:23-!-lasenna[ [~heroux@187.38.245.246] has left #debian []
15:23-!-subsyste [~keithp@187.38.114.79] has left #debian []
15:23-!-pipedrea [~boredatw@187.2.219.161] has left #debian []
15:23-!-PigeonWh [~Hydroxid@187.36.247.106] has left #debian []
15:23-!-Meistari [~matthieu@187.37.21.115] has left #debian []
15:23-!-jaiprr[m [~futex@177.142.22.133] has left #debian []
15:23-!-Scorpio[ [~fabian@177.143.192.96] has left #debian []
15:23-!-kingsley [~Infra_36@187.65.136.63] has left #debian []
15:23-!-espectal [~jalcine@186.223.127.155] has left #debian []
15:23-!-petn-ran [~moz@189.120.237.91] has left #debian []
15:23-!-daemonke [~haircode@189.122.137.62] has left #debian []
15:23-!-diegov[m [~daemonke@189.122.160.175] has left #debian []
15:23-!-lordieva [~tlyu@201.53.23.118] has left #debian []
15:23-!-SavoyRoa [~berto@189.122.137.206] has left #debian []
15:23-!-Hydroxid [~phebus_@189.122.121.201] has left #debian []
15:23-!-MatrixTr [~Hobrom]@189.122.137.234] has left #debian []
15:23-!-Zachary_ [~wget@201.37.240.60] has left #debian []
15:23-!-kelkoobe [~riftman@189.122.160.186] has left #debian []
15:23-!-melo12 [~voxelblo@189.63.22.131] has left #debian []
15:23-!-frostyfr [~debchang@201.53.237.42] has left #debian []
15:23-!-pamuk [~SavoyRoa@189.32.178.168] has left #debian []
15:23-!-twe6ti[m [~keithp@189.60.74.116] has left #debian []
15:23-!-Nevoluti [~kingsley@189.60.47.22] has left #debian []
15:23-!-COREILLY [~RiberHus@189.60.140.164] has left #debian []
15:23-!-duclicsi [~espectal@191.181.90.234] has left #debian []
15:23-!-RiberHus [~riftman@201.53.98.158] has left #debian []
15:23-!-mormon42 [~dbristow@201.52.218.200] has left #debian []
15:23-!-Infra_36 [~Grauwolf@189.34.173.57] has left #debian []
15:23-!-Infiltra [~adi@189.60.113.230] has left #debian []
15:23-!-Bryanste [~Kamilion@201.53.58.118] has left #debian []
15:23-!-phebus_ [~MoDaX@201.52.213.174] has left #debian []
15:23-!-patricko [~mattcen@187.39.85.172] has left #debian []
15:23-!-quasisan [~rootm]@189.122.55.20] has left #debian []
15:23-!-IDrinkMi [~blink@189.122.79.143] has left #debian []
15:23-!-DanieleV [~sychill@187.21.73.147] has left #debian []
15:23-!-Spydar00 [~ebarch@189.60.79.6] has left #debian []
15:23-!-norlane [~infernix@201.6.182.223] has left #debian []
15:23-!-CrypticS [~Otter@189.35.180.133] has left #debian []
15:23-!-moellus[ [~catsup@189.60.46.140] has left #debian []
15:23-!-boredatw [~Hydroxid@201.53.1.105] has left #debian []
15:23-!-Alam_Squ [~cef@179.105.202.39] has left #debian []
15:26-!-rbalint [~rbalint@206.167.44.205] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
15:29-!-dylan_ [~dylan@2602:306:3692:d950:b2c0:90ff:fe0e:fc05] has joined #debian
15:29-!-dylan_ is "realname" on #debian
15:29-!-dylan_ [~dylan@2602:306:3692:d950:b2c0:90ff:fe0e:fc05] has quit []
15:31<kzar>Anyone else have trouble with a Thinkpad dock (or other USB hub) where the devices plugged into the dock / hub aren't noticed until one of them gets unplugged or plugged back in?
15:31<kzar>I have a keyboard and mouse plugged into the dock, when I unplug one of those the other is detected. When I plug it back in again that's detected too.
15:38-!-lambdhack [~lambdhack@40.64.149.77.rev.sfr.net] has joined #debian
15:38-!-lambdhack is "realname" on #debian
15:38<dondelelcaro>kzar: I haven't had that problem; might be informative to look at dmesg to see what is going on there
15:38<lambdhack>hello world
15:39<dondelelcaro>kzar: normally there's a hub in the dock, and it's possible that it's not being properly enumerated or something else silly
15:39<dondelelcaro>(the devices might also be drawing too much power or something else odd)
15:40<kzar>The dock is mentioned in that log when I plug the laptop into the dock, but the keyboard and mouse aren't. If I unplug the mouse for example I see the keyboard mentioned in the log, then when I plug the mouse back in I see the mouse metnioned there too.
15:40-!-H4ndy [~H4ndy@2a00:c1a0:c0c0:ef00:8517:a3ba:9d70:1dec] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
15:41-!-lambdhack [~lambdhack@40.64.149.77.rev.sfr.net] has quit []
15:42-!-H4ndy [~H4ndy@2a00:c1a0:c0c0:ef00:64ec:953a:da80:bc8c] has joined #debian
15:42-!-H4ndy is "..." on #debian-next #debian
15:42<dondelelcaro>kzar: do you see the hub on the dock?
15:42-!-lucascastro [~lucas@2804:214:81b8:726c:18ca:431:8701:5093] has joined #debian
15:42-!-lucascastro is "realname" on #debian-br #debian-devel-br #debian-mentors #debian-js #debian
15:43<Aleksej>So no one is using GDM3 with Wayland disabled? Or no one experiences the delay?
15:43<kzar>dondelelcaro: Yea, that shows up when I dock the laptop
15:43<kzar>I'm tempted to put the dock in a box and just plug stuff in manually at this point
15:44-!-eightyeight [~eightyeig@atoponce.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
15:44<dondelelcaro>kzar: hrm; odd.
15:44<dondelelcaro>kzar: do they show up if only one is plugged in?
15:45-!-nism0 [~oftc-webi@afac21.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #debian
15:45-!-nism0 is "OFTC WebIRC Client" on #debian
15:45<nism0>re
15:45<kzar>dondelelcaro: Nope, same problem
15:45-!-eightyeight [~eightyeig@atoponce.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
15:45-!-eightyeight is "eightyeight" on #debian #awesome
15:45<nism0>I've downloaded installrer
15:45<nism0>*installer
15:45<dondelelcaro>kzar: weird; I've got an x250 and an x200 and a dock, and I've never seen that.
15:46<kzar>dondelelcaro: Yea it used to work OK for me in the past, but I've not used it for a while and now it's going wrong. But so much changed since I last used it, it's hard to pin down the problem. Nevermind, thanks for the help anyway. I think I'm just going to put it in a box and forget about it
15:47-!-jstein [~quassel@xdsl-213-196-246-2.netcologne.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
15:47-!-oalvarez [~alvarezp@189-212-141-164.static.axtel.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
15:47-!-MagicFab [~magicfab@206.167.44.205] has joined #debian
15:47-!-MagicFab is "realname" on #debian-co #debian-fr #ubuntu-expats #debconf #debian-welcome #debian-quebec #debian
15:48<kzar>dondelelcaro: Oh cool, they were plugged into the usb3 ports. I just tried plugging them into the usb2 ports and it worked.
15:48<kzar>dondelelcaro: Don't ask me why, but good enough for now!
15:52<kzar>\o
15:53-!-aatwood [~alan@adsl-108-65-80-52.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #debian
15:53-!-aatwood is "Alan Atwood" on #debian
15:53-!-rbalint [~rbalint@206.167.44.205] has joined #debian
15:53-!-rbalint is "purple" on #debian
15:54-!-jplejacq [~jplejacq@168.244.11.29] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
15:55-!-nism0 [~oftc-webi@afac21.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
15:55-!-MagicFab [~magicfab@206.167.44.205] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
15:56-!-lucas_ [~lucas@179.201.216.109] has joined #debian
15:56-!-lucas_ is "realname" on #debian #debian-js #debian-mentors #debian-devel-br #debian-br
15:57-!-lucascastro [~lucas@2804:214:81b8:726c:18ca:431:8701:5093] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
15:57<dondelelcaro>kzar: ah, cool. No idea why that would matter, but glad it works
15:58-!-jmux [~jmux@194.113.41.246] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
16:01<annadane>kzar, i wonder if lsusb by itself works, maybe the system isn't recognizing them?
16:03-!-petru_ [~petru@188.24.8.235] has joined #debian
16:03-!-petru_ is "Petru Trimbitas" on #debian-kde #debian
16:03-!-Blacker47 [~Blacker47@00014f22.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: This program cannot be run in DOS mode]
16:04-!-MagicFab [~magicfab@206.167.44.205] has joined #debian
16:04-!-MagicFab is "realname" on #debian #debian-quebec #debian-welcome #debconf #ubuntu-expats #debian-fr #debian-co
16:04-!-a2 [~jlbg@82.158.232.125.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #debian
16:04-!-a2 is "a2" on #freebsd #debian #kernelnewbies #debian-es
16:06-!-platvoeten [~platvoete@178-85-122-247.dynamic.upc.nl] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
16:10<bw123>tried instructions to autologin from here https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Automatic_login_to_virtual_console#Virtual_console but getting service failed start_limit_hit from systemctl status getty@tty1.service
16:11-!-pung_ [~smuxi@fusa01.nobody.run] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
16:13<bw123>tried a --delay 2 switch on the exexstart line also
16:14-!-H4ndy [~H4ndy@2a00:c1a0:c0c0:ef00:64ec:953a:da80:bc8c] has quit [Quit: A small mind is easily filled with faith.]
16:14-!-cyphase [~cyphase@000134f2.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
16:14-!-cyphase is "Cyphase" on #osm-dev #osm #guardianproject #awesome #debian-offtopic #ceph-devel #debian-next #virt @#house.md #ceph @#heroes #powerdns @#p4xriddle #suckless #qemu @#PrisonBreak #gcc #debconf @#lost #debian #love #debian-mentors
16:15<Aleksej>bw123: agetty is /sbin/agetty in Debian.
16:15<bw123>ahhh, ty i will try that
16:16-!-MagicFab [~magicfab@206.167.44.205] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
16:16-!-mode/#debian [-qq *!*@177.143.192.96 *!*@179.105.202.39] by FloodServ
16:18-!-amacater [~amacater@cpc78091-stav21-2-0-cust72.17-3.cable.virginm.net] has joined #debian
16:18-!-amacater is "Andrew M.A. Cater" on #debian-hams #debian-arm #debian-cd #debian-efi #debian
16:18<peacetreaty>does anybody know why debian stretch won't boot without a monitor connected?
16:18<petn-randall>peacetreaty: I'm guessing your Bios is throwing an error when none is connected.
16:18-!-OERIAS [~OERIAS@47.137.234.90] has joined #debian
16:18-!-OERIAS is "OERIAS" on #debian-mate #debian
16:19<amacater>Depends - what architecture / what machine / what video card / laptop or desktop ??
16:19-!-MagicFab [~magicfab@206.167.44.205] has joined #debian
16:19-!-MagicFab is "realname" on #debian-co #debian-fr #ubuntu-expats #debconf #debian-welcome #debian-quebec #debian
16:19<peacetreaty>petn-randall: windows boots on the same hardware without monitor
16:19<bw123>Aleksej: yep that's it i should have looked at the unit
16:19-!-MagicFab [~magicfab@206.167.44.205] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
16:20-!-MagicFab is "realname" on #debian-co #debian-fr #ubuntu-expats #debconf #debian-welcome #debian-quebec #debian
16:20-!-MagicFab [~magicfab@206.167.44.205] has joined #debian
16:20<amacater>If it's a dual connector card - eg. VGA and HDMI / DVI - are you sure it isn't coming up on the "other" interface?
16:20<peacetreaty>i made a cronjob @reboot beep...
16:21<Aleksej>bw123: You should've looked at '# systemctl status getty@tty1.service' output :)
16:21<peacetreaty>it beeps when a monitor is connected
16:21<peacetreaty>it doesn't beep when it's not
16:21<bw123>Aleksej: yeah i should have figures this stuff out a long time ago
16:21-!-MagicFab [~magicfab@206.167.44.205] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
16:21<bw123>but systemd is still new to me
16:21-!-cyphase [~cyphase@000134f2.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
16:23-!-rbalint [~rbalint@206.167.44.205] has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
16:23-!-rbalint [~rbalint@206.167.44.205] has joined #debian
16:23-!-rbalint is "purple" on #debian
16:24-!-sunilmohan_ [~quassel@183.83.201.52] has joined #debian
16:24-!-sunilmohan_ is "Sunil Mohan Adapa" on #debian-webapps #pere #debian-arm #freedombox #debian-boot #monkeysphere #debian-js #debian-in #debian-reproducible #debian-blends #debian #osdg-iiith
16:25-!-bony_ [~quassel@183.82.103.58] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
---Logclosed Tue Aug 08 16:25:12 2017
---Logopened Tue Aug 08 16:48:10 2017
16:48-!-mikegrb [~mikegrb@mikegrb.netop.oftc.net] has joined #debian
16:48-!-Irssi: #debian: Total of 789 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 789 normal]
16:48-!-oalvarez [~alvarezp@189.206.160.7] has joined #debian
16:48-!-oalvarez is "Octavio Alvarez" on #debian #debian-devel-es #debian-es #debian-gnome #debian-ipv6 #debian-mentors #debian-mentors-es #debian-mx #debian-next @#pinpoint #packaging
16:49-!-Irssi: Join to #debian was synced in 105 secs
16:52<bw123>plymouth seems to have some kind of support for login, why do we even need dm to login anymore?
16:55-!-alexpbrown [~alex.brow@38.97.68.126] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
16:55-!-a2 [~jlbg@82.158.232.125.dyn.user.ono.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
16:56-!-itd [~itd@0002249b.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: ]
16:56-!-zem_ is now known as zem
16:57-!-CuZnDragon [~Unknown@pheuri.wyrms.net] has joined #debian
16:57-!-CuZnDragon is "Unknown" on #virt #qemu #debian-next #debian
16:58-!-petru_ [~petru@188.24.8.235] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
16:58-!-cyphase [~cyphase@172.58.94.229] has joined #debian
16:58-!-cyphase is "Cyphase" on #ceph @#heroes #powerdns @#p4xriddle #suckless #qemu @#PrisonBreak #gcc #debconf @#lost #debian #love #debian-mentors
17:00-!-jhutchin1_wk [~jonathan@12.126.86.122] has joined #debian
17:00-!-jhutchin1_wk is "Jonathan Hutchins" on #oftc #debian
17:04-!-jathan [~jathan@206.167.44.205] has joined #debian
17:04-!-jathan is "realname" on #debian-live #debian-lts #debian-lxqt #debian-mentors #debian-mentors-es #debian-mobile #debian-mx #debian-mysql #debian-next #debian-ni #debian-offtopic #debian-openstack #debian-publicity #debian-quebec #debian-systemd #debian-android-tools #debian #debconf-video #debconf-infra #debconf18-taiwan #debconf #tails #munin
17:04-!-zophyx [~zophyx@2600:1011:b115:8178:e0fb:24b1:65d2:d53b] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
17:05-!-rbalint [~rbalint@206.167.44.205] has joined #debian
17:05-!-rbalint is "purple" on #debian
17:06-!-jhutchins_wk [~jonathan@12.126.86.122] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
17:07-!-oalvarez [~alvarezp@189.206.160.7] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
17:08-!-magicfab_ [~magicfab@206.167.44.205] has joined #debian
17:08-!-magicfab_ is "realname" on #debian #debian-quebec #debian-welcome #debconf #ubuntu-expats #debian-fr #debian-co
17:09<pron>amm something is changed in stretch
17:09-!-mufflon [~quassel@77-253-184-13.adsl.inetia.pl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
17:09<pron>ifup/ifdown does not see freshly added network interface
17:09-!-peacetreaty [~peacetrea@static.36.148.9.5.clients.your-server.de] has left #debian []
17:09<pron>any clues?
17:10-!-jathan_ [~jathan@206.167.44.157] has joined #debian
17:10-!-jathan_ is "realname" on #debconf-video #debian #debian-android-tools #debian-systemd #debian-quebec #debian-publicity #debian-openstack #debian-offtopic #debian-ni #debian-next #debian-mysql #debian-mx #debian-mobile #debian-mentors-es #debian-mentors #debian-lxqt #debian-lts #debian-live #debian-l10n-spanish #debian-kbsd #debian-i18n #debian-fr #debian-es #debian-reproducible #debian-infra
17:10-!-MagicFab [~magicfab@206.167.44.205] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
17:10<Gabriel_7>pron: what would you expect to happen?
17:10-!-jhutchin1_wk [~jonathan@12.126.86.122] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
17:11-!-jathan_ [~jathan@206.167.44.157] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
17:11-!-magicfab_ [~magicfab@206.167.44.205] has quit []
17:11<pron>idrop the config in file and ifup brings uo interface
17:11-!-MagicFab [~magicfab@206.167.44.205] has joined #debian
17:11-!-MagicFab is "realname" on #debian-co #debian-fr #ubuntu-expats #debconf #debian-welcome #debian-quebec #debian
17:11<pron>i happily use network and dont annoy ppl @ irc
17:11-!-jathan_ [~jathan@206.167.44.157] has joined #debian
17:11-!-jathan_ is "realname" on #munin #tails #debconf #debconf18-taiwan #debconf-infra #debconf-video #debian #debian-android-tools #debian-systemd #debian-quebec #debian-publicity #debian-openstack #debian-offtopic #debian-ni #debian-next #debian-mysql #debian-mx #debian-mobile #debian-mentors-es #debian-mentors #debian-lxqt #debian-lts #debian-live #debian-l10n-spanish #debian-kbsd #debian-i18n #debian-fr #debian-es #debian-reproducible #debian-infra
17:12-!-Linked [~Chained@pool-33.41.186.91.dynamic.wobline-ip.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
17:12-!-cyphase [~cyphase@000134f2.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
17:12-!-jathan_ [~jathan@206.167.44.157] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
17:12<MagicFab>pron, some ideas: check cables, check if there are nough DHCP leases available, if static address/dyanmic DHCP check that no other PC has the same IP
17:12-!-zophyx [~zophyx@2600:1011:b115:8178:e0fb:24b1:65d2:d53b] has joined #debian
17:12-!-zophyx is "realname" on #debian
17:13-!-jathan_ [~jathan@206.167.44.157] has joined #debian
17:13-!-jathan_ is "realname" on #munin #tails #debconf #debconf18-taiwan #debconf-infra #debconf-video #debian #debian-android-tools #debian-systemd #debian-quebec #debian-publicity #debian-openstack #debian-offtopic #debian-ni #debian-next #debian-mysql #debian-mx #debian-mobile #debian-mentors-es #debian-mentors #debian-lxqt #debian-lts #debian-live #debian-l10n-spanish #debian-kbsd #debian-i18n #debian-fr #debian-es #debian-reproducible #debian-infra
17:13-!-dutch [~dutch@static-97-66-215-42.earthlinkbusiness.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
17:13<pron>tnono
17:13<pron>interface is there
17:13<pron>i see it
17:13<pron>ifup doesnrt see
17:14<pron># ifdown ens224
17:14<pron>ifdown: interface ens224 not configured
17:14-!-jathan_ [~jathan@206.167.44.157] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
17:14-!-jathan_ [~jathan@206.167.44.157] has joined #debian
17:14-!-jathan_ is "realname" on #munin #tails #debconf #debconf18-taiwan #debconf-infra #debconf-video #debian #debian-android-tools #debian-systemd #debian-quebec #debian-publicity #debian-openstack #debian-offtopic #debian-ni #debian-next #debian-mysql #debian-mx #debian-mobile #debian-mentors-es #debian-mentors #debian-lxqt #debian-lts #debian-live #debian-l10n-spanish #debian-kbsd #debian-i18n #debian-fr #debian-es #debian-reproducible #debian-infra
17:14<pron>nwm
17:14-!-jathan [~jathan@206.167.44.205] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
17:14<pron>i am dumb af
17:15-!-jathan_ [~jathan@206.167.44.157] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
17:15-!-ldnunes [~ldnunes@181.220.72.143] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
17:16-!-jathan [~jathan@206.167.44.157] has joined #debian
17:16-!-jathan is "realname" on #munin #tails #debconf #debconf18-taiwan #debconf-infra #debconf-video #debian #debian-android-tools #debian-systemd #debian-quebec #debian-publicity #debian-openstack #debian-offtopic #debian-ni #debian-next #debian-mysql #debian-mx #debian-mobile #debian-mentors-es #debian-mentors #debian-lxqt #debian-lts #debian-live #debian-l10n-spanish #debian-kbsd #debian-i18n #debian-fr #debian-es #debian-reproducible @#debian-infra
17:16-!-rbalint [~rbalint@206.167.44.205] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
17:16-!-czesmir [~stefan@dgw99.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal]
17:17-!-jathan [~jathan@206.167.44.157] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
17:17-!-jathan [~jathan@206.167.44.157] has joined #debian
17:17-!-jathan is "realname" on #debconf-video #debian #debian-android-tools #debian-systemd #debian-quebec #debian-publicity #debian-openstack #debian-offtopic #debian-ni #debian-next #debian-mysql #debian-mx #debian-mobile #debian-mentors-es #debian-mentors #debian-lxqt #debian-lts #debian-live #debian-l10n-spanish #debian-kbsd #debian-i18n #debian-fr #debian-es #debian-reproducible @#debian-infra
17:17-!-rbalint [~rbalint@206.167.44.205] has joined #debian
17:17-!-rbalint is "purple" on #debian
17:18-!-jathan [~jathan@206.167.44.157] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
17:19-!-jathan [~jathan@206.167.44.157] has joined #debian
17:19-!-jathan is "realname" on #munin #tails #debconf #debconf18-taiwan #debconf-infra #debconf-video #debian #debian-android-tools #debian-systemd #debian-quebec #debian-publicity #debian-openstack #debian-offtopic #debian-ni #debian-next #debian-mysql #debian-mx #debian-mobile #debian-mentors-es #debian-mentors #debian-lxqt #debian-lts #debian-live #debian-l10n-spanish #debian-kbsd #debian-i18n #debian-fr #debian-es #debian-reproducible @#debian-infra
17:20-!-jathan [~jathan@206.167.44.157] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
17:20-!-sidewalkends [~sidewalke@206.167.44.205] has joined #debian
17:20-!-sidewalkends is "realname" on #debian
17:20-!-jathan [~jathan@206.167.44.157] has joined #debian
17:20-!-jathan is "realname" on #munin #tails #debconf #debconf18-taiwan #debconf-infra #debconf-video #debian #debian-android-tools #debian-systemd #debian-quebec #debian-publicity #debian-openstack #debian-offtopic #debian-ni #debian-next #debian-mysql #debian-mx #debian-mobile #debian-mentors-es #debian-mentors #debian-lxqt #debian-lts #debian-live #debian-l10n-spanish #debian-kbsd #debian-i18n #debian-fr #debian-es #debian-reproducible @#debian-infra
17:21-!-infinity0_ [~infinity0@occupy.ecodis.net] has joined #debian
17:21-!-infinity0_ is "unset" on #debian #debian-mentors #debconf #debian-science #debian-mozext
17:21-!-infinity0 is now known as Guest1831
17:21-!-infinity0_ is now known as infinity0
17:21-!-jathan [~jathan@206.167.44.157] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
17:22-!-jathan [~jathan@206.167.44.157] has joined #debian
17:22-!-jathan is "realname" on #debconf-video #debian #debian-android-tools #debian-systemd #debian-quebec #debian-publicity #debian-openstack #debian-offtopic #debian-ni #debian-next #debian-mysql #debian-mx #debian-mobile #debian-mentors-es #debian-mentors #debian-lxqt #debian-lts #debian-live #debian-l10n-spanish #debian-kbsd #debian-i18n #debian-fr #debian-es #debian-reproducible @#debian-infra
17:22-!-medicalwei is now known as mwei
17:23-!-jathan [~jathan@206.167.44.157] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
17:23-!-DarkPi [~darkknigh@cpe-174-103-189-202.wi.res.rr.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
17:23-!-jathan [~jathan@206.167.44.157] has joined #debian
17:23-!-jathan is "realname" on #munin #tails #debconf #debconf18-taiwan #debconf-infra #debconf-video #debian #debian-android-tools #debian-systemd #debian-quebec #debian-publicity #debian-openstack #debian-offtopic #debian-ni #debian-next #debian-mysql #debian-mx #debian-mobile #debian-mentors-es #debian-mentors #debian-lxqt #debian-lts #debian-live #debian-l10n-spanish #debian-kbsd #debian-i18n #debian-fr #debian-es #debian-reproducible @#debian-infra
17:24-!-flaxo [~falko@p4FF2C0E9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #debian
17:24-!-flaxo is "falko" on #debian
17:24-!-jathan [~jathan@206.167.44.157] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
17:25-!-jathan [~jathan@206.167.44.157] has joined #debian
17:25-!-jathan is "realname" on #munin #tails #debconf #debconf18-taiwan #debconf-infra #debconf-video #debian #debian-android-tools #debian-systemd #debian-quebec #debian-publicity #debian-openstack #debian-offtopic #debian-ni #debian-next #debian-mysql #debian-mx #debian-mobile #debian-mentors-es #debian-mentors #debian-lxqt #debian-lts #debian-live #debian-l10n-spanish #debian-kbsd #debian-i18n #debian-fr #debian-es #debian-reproducible @#debian-infra
17:25-!-Guest1831 [~infinity0@0001b9ba.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
17:25-!-Ruebezahl [~Alf@p200300C04BE7A400626720FFFE413270.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
17:26-!-jathan [~jathan@206.167.44.157] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
17:26-!-jathan [~jathan@206.167.44.157] has joined #debian
17:26-!-jathan is "realname" on #munin #tails #debconf #debconf18-taiwan #debconf-infra #debconf-video #debian #debian-android-tools #debian-systemd #debian-quebec #debian-publicity #debian-openstack #debian-offtopic #debian-ni #debian-next #debian-mysql #debian-mx #debian-mobile #debian-mentors-es #debian-mentors #debian-lxqt #debian-lts #debian-live #debian-l10n-spanish #debian-kbsd #debian-i18n #debian-fr #debian-es #debian-reproducible @#debian-infra
17:27-!-azzamsa [~azzamsa@114.125.88.119] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
17:27-!-jathan [~jathan@206.167.44.157] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
17:27-!-dvs [~hibbard@00012127.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
17:27-!-dvs is "realname" on #debian
17:28-!-jathan [~jathan@206.167.44.157] has joined #debian
17:28-!-jathan is "realname" on #debconf-video #debian #debian-android-tools #debian-systemd #debian-quebec #debian-publicity #debian-openstack #debian-offtopic #debian-ni #debian-next #debian-mysql #debian-mx #debian-mobile #debian-mentors-es #debian-mentors #debian-lxqt #debian-lts #debian-live #debian-l10n-spanish #debian-kbsd #debian-i18n #debian-fr #debian-es #debian-reproducible @#debian-infra
17:28<flaxo>hi all, can anyone give me pointers where to look for the 'transcode' package in debian stretch? did i miss something? i need tccat and can't seem to install it via apt any more
17:29-!-OERIAS [~OERIAS@47.137.234.90] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
17:29-!-jathan [~jathan@206.167.44.157] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
17:29-!-jathan [~jathan@206.167.44.157] has joined #debian
17:29-!-jathan is "realname" on #debconf-video #debian #debian-android-tools #debian-systemd #debian-quebec #debian-publicity #debian-openstack #debian-offtopic #debian-ni #debian-next #debian-mysql #debian-mx #debian-mobile #debian-mentors-es #debian-mentors #debian-lxqt #debian-lts #debian-live #debian-l10n-spanish #debian-kbsd #debian-i18n #debian-fr #debian-es #debian-reproducible @#debian-infra
17:29<jrtc27>flaxo: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=817199
17:29<judd>Bug http://bugs.debian.org/817199 in ftp.debian.org (closed, sid, stretch): «RM: transcode -- RoM; dead upstream, replacements exist»; severity: normal; opened: 2016-03-08; last modified: 2016-04-29.
17:30-!-sidewalkends [~sidewalke@206.167.44.205] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
17:30-!-jathan [~jathan@206.167.44.157] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
17:30-!-sunilmohan [~quassel@183.83.201.52] has joined #debian
17:30-!-sunilmohan is "Sunil Mohan Adapa" on #monkeysphere #debian #osdg-iiith #debian-blends #debian-webapps #debian-reproducible #debian-arm #freedombox #pere #debian-js #debian-in #debian-boot
17:31-!-jathan [~jathan@206.167.44.157] has joined #debian
17:31-!-jathan is "realname" on #debconf-video #debian #debian-android-tools #debian-systemd #debian-quebec #debian-publicity #debian-openstack #debian-offtopic #debian-ni #debian-next #debian-mysql #debian-mx #debian-mobile #debian-mentors-es #debian-mentors #debian-lxqt #debian-lts #debian-live #debian-l10n-spanish #debian-kbsd #debian-i18n #debian-fr #debian-es #debian-reproducible @#debian-infra
17:32-!-jathan [~jathan@206.167.44.157] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
17:32<flaxo>naaaaaa
17:32-!-MagicFab [~magicfab@206.167.44.205] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
17:32-!-hele [~hele@a88-115-23-37.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
17:32-!-jathan [~jathan@206.167.44.157] has joined #debian
17:32-!-jathan is "realname" on #debconf-video #debian #debian-android-tools #debian-systemd #debian-quebec #debian-publicity #debian-openstack #debian-offtopic #debian-ni #debian-next #debian-mysql #debian-mx #debian-mobile #debian-mentors-es #debian-mentors #debian-lxqt #debian-lts #debian-live #debian-l10n-spanish #debian-kbsd #debian-i18n #debian-fr #debian-es #debian-reproducible @#debian-infra
17:32-!-MagicFab [~magicfab@206.167.44.205] has joined #debian
17:32-!-MagicFab is "realname" on #debian-co #debian-fr #ubuntu-expats #debconf #debian-welcome #debian-quebec #debian
17:33-!-CrypticSquared [~CrypticS_@ppp118-209-6-55.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has joined #debian
17:33-!-CrypticSquared is "CrypticS_" on #debian-kde #debian-bugs #debian
17:33<flaxo>well what would be the replacement for ripping parts of dvds from the command line?
17:33-!-jathan [~jathan@206.167.44.157] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
17:34-!-jathan [~jathan@206.167.44.157] has joined #debian
17:34-!-jathan is "realname" on #munin #tails #debconf #debconf18-taiwan #debconf-video #debian #debian-android-tools #debian-systemd #debian-quebec #debian-publicity #debian-openstack #debian-offtopic #debian-ni #debian-next #debian-mysql #debian-mx #debian-mobile #debian-mentors-es #debian-mentors #debian-lxqt #debian-lts #debian-live #debian-l10n-spanish #debian-kbsd #debian-i18n #debian-fr #debian-es #debian-reproducible @#debian-infra
17:34<flaxo>actually it was not dead upstream it was just "feature-complete"
17:35-!-jathan [~jathan@206.167.44.157] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
17:35-!-jathan [~jathan@206.167.44.157] has joined #debian
17:35-!-jathan is "realname" on #debconf-video #debian #debian-android-tools #debian-systemd #debian-quebec #debian-publicity #debian-openstack #debian-offtopic #debian-ni #debian-next #debian-mysql #debian-mx #debian-mobile #debian-mentors-es #debian-mentors #debian-lxqt #debian-lts #debian-live #debian-l10n-spanish #debian-kbsd #debian-i18n #debian-fr #debian-es #debian-reproducible @#debian-infra
17:36-!-sunilmohan_ [~quassel@183.83.201.52] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
17:36-!-jathan [~jathan@206.167.44.157] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
17:37-!-jathan [~jathan@206.167.44.157] has joined #debian
17:37-!-jathan is "realname" on #debconf-video #debian #debian-android-tools #debian-systemd #debian-quebec #debian-publicity #debian-openstack #debian-offtopic #debian-ni #debian-next #debian-mysql #debian-mx #debian-mobile #debian-mentors-es #debian-mentors #debian-lxqt #debian-lts #debian-live #debian-l10n-spanish #debian-kbsd #debian-i18n #debian-fr #debian-es #debian-reproducible @#debian-infra
17:38-!-jathan [~jathan@206.167.44.157] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
17:38-!-sidewalkends [~sidewalke@206.167.44.205] has joined #debian
17:38-!-sidewalkends is "realname" on #debian
17:38-!-jathan [~jathan@206.167.44.157] has joined #debian
17:38-!-jathan is "realname" on #munin #tails #debconf #debconf18-taiwan #debconf-video #debian #debian-android-tools #debian-systemd #debian-quebec #debian-publicity #debian-openstack #debian-offtopic #debian-ni #debian-next #debian-mysql #debian-mx #debian-mobile #debian-mentors-es #debian-mentors #debian-lxqt #debian-lts #debian-live #debian-l10n-spanish #debian-kbsd #debian-i18n #debian-fr #debian-es #debian-reproducible @#debian-infra
17:39<flaxo>any ideas anyone?
17:39-!-jathan [~jathan@206.167.44.157] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
17:40-!-jathan [~jathan@206.167.44.157] has joined #debian
17:40-!-jathan is "realname" on #debconf-video #debian #debian-android-tools #debian-systemd #debian-quebec #debian-publicity #debian-openstack #debian-offtopic #debian-ni #debian-next #debian-mysql #debian-mx #debian-mobile #debian-mentors-es #debian-mentors #debian-lxqt #debian-lts #debian-live #debian-l10n-spanish #debian-kbsd #debian-i18n #debian-fr #debian-es #debian-reproducible @#debian-infra
17:40<TobiX>flaxo: handbrake is 1000x better?
17:41-!-jathan [~jathan@206.167.44.157] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
17:41<flaxo>commandline?
17:41<TobiX>ffmpeg?
17:41-!-jathan [~jathan@206.167.44.157] has joined #debian
17:41-!-jathan is "realname" on #debconf-video #debian #debian-android-tools #debian-systemd #debian-quebec #debian-publicity #debian-openstack #debian-offtopic #debian-ni #debian-next #debian-mysql #debian-mx #debian-mobile #debian-mentors-es #debian-mentors #debian-lxqt #debian-lts #debian-live #debian-l10n-spanish #debian-kbsd #debian-i18n #debian-fr #debian-es #debian-reproducible @#debian-infra
17:41<TobiX>tc was never a good frontend for ffmpeg
17:41<flaxo>it can not read from dvd directly can it?
17:42<piper>it's taboo to talk about it here, as it is used in mythtv ← is the clue
17:42-!-jhutchins_wk [~jonathan@136.33.72.78] has joined #debian
17:42-!-jhutchins_wk is "Jonathan Hutchins" on #oftc #debian
17:42<TobiX>Of course it can...
17:42<flaxo>well it worked for years...
17:42<TobiX>piper: ?
17:42-!-jathan [~jathan@206.167.44.157] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
17:43-!-jathan [~jathan@206.167.44.157] has joined #debian
17:43-!-jathan is "realname" on #debconf-video #debian #debian-android-tools #debian-systemd #debian-quebec #debian-publicity #debian-openstack #debian-offtopic #debian-ni #debian-next #debian-mysql #debian-mx #debian-mobile #debian-mentors-es #debian-mentors #debian-lxqt #debian-lts #debian-live #debian-l10n-spanish #debian-kbsd #debian-i18n #debian-fr #debian-es #debian-reproducible @#debian-infra
17:43<flaxo>uuuhhhh libcdio...
17:43<flaxo>:)
17:43<piper>apt policy transcode Installed: 4:1.1.7-dmo15 500 http://www.deb-multimedia.org sid/main amd64 Packages
17:44-!-jathan [~jathan@206.167.44.157] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
17:44<flaxo>why do i allways find myself on deb-multimedia after things just stopped working...
17:44-!-jathan [~jathan@206.167.44.157] has joined #debian
17:44-!-jathan is "realname" on #debconf-video #debian #debian-android-tools #debian-systemd #debian-quebec #debian-publicity #debian-openstack #debian-offtopic #debian-ni #debian-next #debian-mysql #debian-mx #debian-mobile #debian-mentors-es #debian-mentors #debian-lxqt #debian-lts #debian-live #debian-l10n-spanish #debian-kbsd #debian-i18n #debian-fr #debian-es #debian-reproducible @#debian-infra
17:45-!-MagicFab [~magicfab@206.167.44.205] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
17:45-!-MagicFab [~magicfab@206.167.44.205] has joined #debian
17:45-!-MagicFab is "realname" on #debian-co #debian-fr #ubuntu-expats #debconf #debian-welcome #debian-quebec #debian
17:45-!-jathan [~jathan@206.167.44.157] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
17:45-!-digitalfredy [~digitalfr@206.167.44.157] has joined #debian
17:45-!-digitalfredy is "realname" on #debian
17:46-!-jathan [~jathan@206.167.44.157] has joined #debian
17:46-!-jathan is "realname" on #munin #tails #debconf #debconf18-taiwan #debconf-video #debian #debian-android-tools #debian-systemd #debian-quebec #debian-publicity #debian-openstack #debian-offtopic #debian-ni #debian-next #debian-mysql #debian-mx #debian-mobile #debian-mentors-es #debian-mentors #debian-lxqt #debian-lts #debian-live #debian-l10n-spanish #debian-kbsd #debian-i18n #debian-fr #debian-es #debian-reproducible @#debian-infra
17:46<piper>flaxo: i have been building my custom distro with it for hell, forever, i don't know what the problem is, politics and epoch, and never had a problem with or heard people having problems with it besides the debian forums and here on irc
17:46-!-jathan [~jathan@206.167.44.157] has quit []
17:47<flaxo>hm well debian seems to have lots of issues with working software... cdrecord, ffmpeg... etc
17:47<piper>yes, you won't have support for it here, but there are many places where you will
17:48<flaxo>why is that so?
17:48<piper>politics and epoch
17:48<TobiX>There is a perfectly fine version of ffmpeg in Debian
17:48<TobiX>And it doesn't break other, unrelated software
17:49<flaxo>well is it actually ffmpeg AGAIN?
17:49<TobiX>Yes
17:49<flaxo>after breaking stuff with avconv for how long?
17:49<TobiX>The libav-kerfufle is behind us
17:49<flaxo>ah
17:49<flaxo>great
17:49<TobiX>1 releae
17:50<TobiX>Sorry, 2 releases
17:51<TobiX>wheezy and jessie had libav, everything before and after has ffmpeg
17:51<flaxo>so how many releases till transcode will return? ^_^
17:51<flaxo>jeah still it broke my setup back than!
17:51<flaxo>then
17:51<TobiX>flaxo: It will return when you start maintainig it again ;)
17:51<petn-randall>flaxo: I'm guessing it won't return, since nobody wants to maintain it and upstream is dead.
17:52-!-__dutch__ [~dutch@static-97-66-215-42.earthlinkbusiness.net] has joined #debian
17:52-!-__dutch__ is "realname" on #debian #awesome
17:52<jmcnaught>,bug rm transcode
17:52<judd>Bug http://bugs.debian.org/817199 in ftp.debian.org (closed): «RM: transcode -- RoM; dead upstream, replacements exist»; severity: normal; opened: 2016-03-08; last modified: 2016-04-29.
17:52<piper>works good in mythtv
17:53<piper>actually fantastic
17:53<flaxo>well but does anyone know an alternative for just grabbing media from a dvd by chapter/title whatever?
17:53<flaxo>ok handbreakcli seems to do it
17:53<TobiX>flaxo: ffmpeg?
17:53<TobiX>flaxo: It's even in the manpage: "You can transcode decrypted VOBs..."
17:53<flaxo>TobiX: how -f libcio?
17:54<flaxo>well i do not have vobs...
17:54<TobiX>cdio is for CDs
17:54<flaxo>the vobs do not have the chapter infos
17:54<flaxo>ok
17:55<TobiX>Yes, they have...
17:55-!-MagicFab [~magicfab@206.167.44.205] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
17:56<flaxo>so how would i grab chapter 2-5 of the 3rd track of a dvd then?
17:56<flaxo>in ffmpeg?
17:56-!-rbalint [~rbalint@206.167.44.205] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
17:56<TobiX>Or, I should be more precise: Most players (including ffmpeg) are clever enough to associate the correct .idx file with the vob you are ripping
17:57-!-sidewalkends [~sidewalke@206.167.44.205] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
17:57-!-sidewalkends [~sidewalke@206.167.44.205] has joined #debian
17:57-!-sidewalkends is "realname" on #debian
17:57-!-mwei is now known as mwei-the-talkmeister
17:57-!-mwei-the-talkmeister is now known as mwei
17:58<flaxo>ok any pointers to any documentation? i cant seem to find it in ffmpeg docs
17:58-!-Strife89 [~quassel@adsl-98-80-184-75.mcn.bellsouth.net] has joined #debian
17:58-!-Strife89 is "Michael Carr" on #debian #debian-next
17:59-!-MagicFab [~magicfab@206.167.44.205] has joined #debian
17:59-!-MagicFab is "realname" on #debian #debian-quebec #debian-welcome #debconf #ubuntu-expats #debian-fr #debian-co
18:01-!-__dutch__ [~dutch@static-97-66-215-42.earthlinkbusiness.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
18:05-!-Strife1989 [~quassel@adsl-98-80-185-203.mcn.bellsouth.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
18:05-!-aguslr [~aguslr@0001a2ec.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Coyote finally caught me]
18:05-!-nander [~quassel@halley.student.utwente.nl] has joined #debian
18:05-!-nander is "nander,,," on #debian
18:05-!-aguslr [~aguslr@111.98.117.91.dynamic.reverse-mundo-r.com] has joined #debian
18:05-!-aguslr is "Agus" on #debian
18:05-!-sidewalkends [~sidewalke@206.167.44.205] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
18:05-!-__dutch__ [~dutch@static-97-66-215-42.earthlinkbusiness.net] has joined #debian
18:05-!-__dutch__ is "realname" on #suckless #debian-next #debian #awesome
18:07-!-nander [~quassel@halley.student.utwente.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
18:08-!-marcus______ [~marcus@c-b82272d5.014-990-7570702.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Quit: marcus______]
18:09-!-nander [~quassel@halley.student.utwente.nl] has joined #debian
18:09-!-nander is "nander,,," on #debian
18:13<TobiX>flaxo: Okay. I was wrong. DVD ripping too long ago, sorry. If you really want to do this step by step and not use handbrake, you have to use an assortment of tools, since ffmpeg alone does not read DVDs with chapters. You could use VLCs transcoding features (but they are quite hairy IMHO)
18:13-!-alanz [~smuxi@165.255.111.121] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
18:14<jmcnaught>,i handbrake-cli
18:14<judd>Package handbrake-cli (graphics, optional) in stretch/amd64: versatile DVD ripper and video transcoder (command line). Version: 0.10.5+ds1-2+b3; Size: 276.9k; Installed: 697k; Homepage: http://www.handbrake.fr/
18:14<jmcnaught>flaxo: have you tried this ^
18:16<flaxo>reading the manpage right now...
18:17<flaxo>but isnt handbreak allways encoding the stuff?
18:18<TobiX>flaxo: dvdxchap is in the package ogmtools, there is lsdvd for easy listing all titles and chapters...
18:19-!-sunilmohan [~quassel@183.83.201.52] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
18:19<flaxo>ok i just want to grab raw data from a random chapter on a dvd...
18:19-!-sunilmohan [~quassel@183.83.201.52] has joined #debian
18:19-!-sunilmohan is "Sunil Mohan Adapa" on #debian-in #debian-webapps #debian-boot #debian-blends #debian-reproducible #debian @#osdg-iiith #pere #monkeysphere #debian-arm #freedombox #debian-js
18:20-!-dvs [~hibbard@00012127.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
18:22<TobiX>flaxo: There is vobcopy...
18:25-!-herbmillerjr [~herbmille@50-248-67-123-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
18:26-!-anders [~anders@ip130-231-210-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
18:27-!-Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
18:27-!-dvs [~hibbard@00012127.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
18:27-!-dvs is "realname" on #debian
18:28<TobiX>Looks like there is nothing quite like tccat... Seems most poeple only solve that problem in bigger workflows... Probably basically 2 or 3 calls to libdvdread/libdvdnav...
18:28-!-linuxenko [~sveta@host-176-37-12-6.la.net.ua] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.4]
18:29-!-f10 [~flo@ip5b40643f.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
18:30-!-waschbaer [~waschbaer@ip-109-43-0-23.web.vodafone.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
18:30<flaxo>damn...
18:30-!-hackunoichi is now known as hackunoichi_
18:30<flaxo>well thanks anyways
18:32-!-omnipotentduo [~ray@66.115.124.121] has joined #debian
18:32-!-omnipotentduo is "realname" on #channel #debian
18:33-!-amacater [~amacater@cpc78091-stav21-2-0-cust72.17-3.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
18:33-!-Strife1989 [~quassel@adsl-98-80-188-79.mcn.bellsouth.net] has joined #debian
18:33-!-Strife1989 is "Michael Carr" on #debian #debian-next
18:33-!-f10 [~flo@91.64.100.63] has joined #debian
18:33-!-f10 is "f10" on #debian-kde #debian
18:34<TobiX>transcode doesn't even have a homepage anymore...
18:35-!-dvs [~hibbard@00012127.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
18:35-!-zem [~krikkit@00016a79.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
18:38-!-ach [~spo@ip-109-43-1-7.web.vodafone.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
18:39-!-BlackDragon42 [~Blackdrag@c-68-43-124-106.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #debian
18:39-!-BlackDragon42 is "realname" on #debian
18:39-!-zem [~krikkit@00016a79.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
18:39-!-zem is "Marvin" on #foodhackingbase #debian-games #debian-offtopic #debian-next #debian
18:40-!-nikoala [~niko@80.30.128.11] has joined #debian
18:40-!-nikoala is "niko" on #debian
18:40<BlackDragon42>Hello.
18:40-!-Strife89 [~quassel@adsl-98-80-184-75.mcn.bellsouth.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
18:42-!-sunilmohan_ [~quassel@183.83.201.52] has joined #debian
18:42-!-sunilmohan_ is "Sunil Mohan Adapa" on #pere #debian-js #osdg-iiith #debian-in #debian-webapps #debian-boot #debian-arm #debian #freedombox #monkeysphere #debian-reproducible #debian-blends
18:42-!-omnipotentduo [~ray@66.115.124.121] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
18:43-!-jplejacq [~jplejacq@24.224.107.176] has joined #debian
18:43-!-jplejacq is "Jean Pierre LeJacq" on #debian-kde #debian
18:45-!-valessio [uid150324@00012203.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity]
18:48-!-sunilmohan [~quassel@183.83.201.52] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
18:49-!-AzaToth [~azatoth@h87-96-232-219.cust.se.alltele.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
18:50<MagicFab>BlackDragon42, hi
18:50<BlackDragon42>How's it going?
18:52<MagicFab>BlackDragon42, great! For offtopic chat: #debian-offtopic - if you're new here you can also come to #debian-welcome
18:52<BlackDragon42>Not new... Been here for a long time...
18:53-!-bolt [~r00t@000182e9.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
18:53-!-bolt is "-" on #awesome #virt #debian-next #debian #sd #oftc #qemu #suckless
18:53<BlackDragon42>Was going to ask a question though...
18:54-!-digitalfredy [~digitalfr@206.167.44.157] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
18:56-!-On4r4p791 [~ouroboros@159.203.38.146] has joined #debian
18:56-!-On4r4p791 is "Ouroboros" on #debian
18:58-!-__dutch__ [~dutch@static-97-66-215-42.earthlinkbusiness.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
19:00-!-csotelo [~csotelo@2001:1388:49c6:f9a5:a328:3589:be40:bafd] has joined #debian
19:00-!-csotelo is "realname" on #debian-es #debian
19:03-!-orion_ [~quassel@host86-176-181-169.range86-176.btcentralplus.com] has joined #debian
19:03-!-orion_ is "Jonathan ,,," on #debian
19:03-!-sunilmohan_ [~quassel@183.83.201.52] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
19:03-!-orion_ [~quassel@host86-176-181-169.range86-176.btcentralplus.com] has quit []
19:04-!-orion_ [~quassel@host86-176-181-169.range86-176.btcentralplus.com] has joined #debian
19:04-!-orion_ is "Jonathan ,,," on #debian
19:05-!-orion_ [~quassel@host86-176-181-169.range86-176.btcentralplus.com] has quit []
19:05-!-wavekidsjp [~wavekidsj@h219-110-18-091.catv02.itscom.jp] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
19:08-!-MagicFab [~magicfab@206.167.44.205] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
19:08-!-Maarten_ [~smuxi@185.47.133.96] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
19:11-!-lariso [~lariso@105.108.250.158] has joined #debian
19:11-!-lariso is "lariso" on #debian
19:11-!-lariso [~lariso@105.108.250.158] has quit []
19:13<flaxo>TobiX: yeah it seems to be gone for good...
19:15<TobiX>flaxo: You could try to contact Andrew Church: http://achurch.org/ & https://bitbucket.org/achurch_/transcode/wiki/Home
19:15-!-mvanorder [~mvanorder@2001:420:2281:1321:14bf:bbce:860a:faa2] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
19:19-!-dutch [~dutch@static-97-66-215-42.earthlinkbusiness.net] has joined #debian
19:19-!-dutch is "realname" on #suckless #debian-next #debian #awesome
19:22-!-B0rk_Meister6six6 [~B0rk_Meis@24-181-53-187.dhcp.gnvl.sc.charter.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
19:23-!-bibiirc [~quassel@78.251.218.80] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
19:23-!-bibiirc_ [~quassel@78.251.218.80] has joined #debian
19:23-!-bibiirc_ is "bibiirc" on #debian #freedombox
19:29-!-Maarten_ [~smuxi@185.47.133.96] has joined #debian
19:29-!-Maarten_ is "Maarten" on #debian
19:34-!-nikoala [~niko@80.30.128.11] has quit [Quit: nikoala]
19:35-!-hackunoichi_ is now known as hackunoichi__
19:40-!-Brigo [~Brigo@249.59.27.77.dynamic.reverse-mundo-r.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
19:41-!-bluca [~lboccass@2a00:23c5:bef3:400:4a51:b7ff:fe0b:4749] has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
19:47-!-OERIAS [~OERIAS@47.137.234.90] has joined #debian
19:47-!-OERIAS is "OERIAS" on #debian-mate #debian
19:58-!-f10 [~flo@91.64.100.63] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
20:00-!-jrabe [jrabe@janikrabe.com] has quit []
20:00-!-jrabe [jrabe@janikrabe.com] has joined #debian
20:00-!-jrabe is "Janik Rabe" on #tor #debian
20:05-!-ferseiti [~ferseiti@177.103.13.231] has joined #debian
20:05-!-ferseiti is "Fernando" on #debian
20:08-!-kathenas [~kathenas@79-74-86-180.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
20:09-!-gkt [~gkt@017.d.003.ncl.iprimus.net.au] has left #debian []
20:09-!-gkt [~gkt@017.d.003.ncl.iprimus.net.au] has joined #debian
20:09-!-gkt is "gkt" on #debian @#debian_mentors
20:23-!-flaxo_ [~falko@p4FF2C173.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #debian
20:23-!-flaxo_ is "falko" on #debian
20:29-!-promach__ [~promach@2001:e68:4427:302d:9e30:6316:3da5:f424] has joined #debian
20:29-!-promach__ is "realname" on #debian #gcc #kernelnewbies #lowRISC #geda
20:30-!-flaxo [~falko@p4FF2C0E9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
20:33-!-promach__ [~promach@2001:e68:4427:302d:9e30:6316:3da5:f424] has quit []
20:36-!-AntumD [~Jordan@or-67-232-76-38.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
20:39-!-N-Mi [~nicolas@37.169.200.112] has joined #debian
20:39-!-N-Mi is "Nicolas Pichon" on #virt #packaging #debian-apt #debian
20:39-!-kathenas [~kathenas@79-74-86-180.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #debian
20:39-!-kathenas is "Phil Wyett" on #debconf17-woody #debconf17-potato #debconf17-bo #debconf17-buzz #debconf17-rex #debian-www #debconf #debian #debian-cd #debian-qa #debian-offtopic #debian-mentors #debian-derivatives #debian-gnome #debian-live #debian-next
20:44-!-hackunoichi__ is now known as hackkunoichi
20:54-!-ferseiti [~ferseiti@177.103.13.231] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
20:57-!-sidewalkends [~sidewalke@206.167.44.205] has joined #debian
20:57-!-sidewalkends is "realname" on #debian
20:58-!-pi_ [~pi@2601:98a:500:6504:3e26:6229:2f1b:55ec] has joined #debian
20:58-!-pi_ is "DaRk_aNoMaLy13" on #debian-kde #debian
20:59-!-jplejacq [~jplejacq@24.224.107.176] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
21:04-!-zophyx [~zophyx@2600:1011:b115:8178:e0fb:24b1:65d2:d53b] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
21:07-!-preview [~quassel@2407:7000:842d:4000::3] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
21:13-!-Delta-One [~zero@2001:2002:51e2:7ba1:6391:acc7:b55f:c617] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
21:14-!-AntumDeluge [~Jordan@or-67-232-76-38.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #debian
21:14-!-AntumDeluge is "realname" on #debian
21:15-!-sidewalkends [~sidewalke@206.167.44.205] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
21:15-!-barbanegra [~libertad@barbanegra.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
21:15-!-barbanegra is "http://barbanegra.info/" on #debian
21:22-!-sidmo_ [~ilven@p5B24E09A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #debian
21:22-!-sidmo_ is "sidmo" on #debian-systemd #debian-next #debian-offtopic #debian-kde #debian
21:23-!-Rackmount [~cipherpun@ip70-176-200-111.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #debian
21:23-!-Rackmount is "Stephen Edwards" on #debian
21:23-!-grrrrrr [~libertad@barbanegra.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
21:23-!-Rackmount [~cipherpun@ip70-176-200-111.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit []
21:25-!-Nick1296 [~nick1296@47.204.241.185] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
21:29-!-sidmo [~ilven@p5B24E0C9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
21:31<annadane>BlackDragon42, go ahead and ask...
21:37-!-jipege2 [~quassel@170-135-190-109.isp.overthebox.ovh] has joined #debian
21:37-!-jipege2 is "zaza,,," on #debian-publicity #debian-doc #debian-l10n-fr #debian-i18n #debian #debian-www
21:40-!-kazuto [~kazuto@8.29.164.125] has joined #debian
21:40-!-kazuto is "realname" on #debian
21:41-!-jipege1 [~quassel@170-135-190-109.isp.overthebox.ovh] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
21:48<kazuto>anyone on?
21:50<cruncher>kazuto, no, all 746 sleeping
21:50<cruncher>!ask
21:50<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
21:53<kazuto>cool thanks.
21:56-!-Maarten_ [~smuxi@185.47.133.96] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
21:59-!-sidewalkends [~sidewalke@66.171.165.154] has joined #debian
21:59-!-sidewalkends is "realname" on #debian
21:59-!-sidewalkends [~sidewalke@66.171.165.154] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
21:59-!-aritsune [60f86959@107.161.19.109] has joined #debian
21:59-!-aritsune is "aritsune" on #debian
21:59-!-sidewalkends is "realname" on #debian
21:59-!-sidewalkends [~sidewalke@66.171.165.154] has joined #debian
21:59-!-sidewalkends [~sidewalke@66.171.165.154] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
21:59-!-sidewalkends is "realname" on #debian
21:59-!-sidewalkends [~sidewalke@66.171.165.154] has joined #debian
21:59-!-sidewalkends [~sidewalke@66.171.165.154] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
22:00-!-banc [~master@217.151.98.168] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in]
22:00-!-sidewalkends [~sidewalke@66.171.165.154] has joined #debian
22:00-!-sidewalkends is "realname" on #debian
22:00-!-sidewalkends [~sidewalke@66.171.165.154] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
22:00-!-sidewalkends is "realname" on #debian
22:00-!-sidewalkends [~sidewalke@66.171.165.154] has joined #debian
22:00-!-sidewalkends [~sidewalke@66.171.165.154] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
22:00-!-sidewalkends is "realname" on #debian
22:00-!-sidewalkends [~sidewalke@66.171.165.154] has joined #debian
22:00-!-sidewalkends [~sidewalke@66.171.165.154] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
22:00-!-kazuto [~kazuto@8.29.164.125] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
22:01-!-sidewalkends [~sidewalke@66.171.165.154] has joined #debian
22:01-!-sidewalkends is "realname" on #debian
22:01-!-sidewalkends [~sidewalke@66.171.165.154] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
22:01-!-sidewalkends is "realname" on #debian
22:01-!-sidewalkends [~sidewalke@66.171.165.154] has joined #debian
22:01-!-sidewalkends [~sidewalke@66.171.165.154] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
22:01<aritsune>why aren't fonts in subdirectories of fonts.conf directories getting added properly? they show up in the fc-cache -fv output but they aren't actually usable in X
22:01-!-sidewalkends is "realname" on #debian
22:01-!-sidewalkends [~sidewalke@66.171.165.154] has joined #debian
22:01-!-sidewalkends [~sidewalke@66.171.165.154] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
22:02-!-sidewalkends [~sidewalke@66.171.165.154] has joined #debian
22:02-!-sidewalkends is "realname" on #debian
22:03-!-Meistarin [~Got@2001:41d0:a:f170::1] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
22:04-!-Dr-Shadow [~quassel@2001:41d0:a:2872::1] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
22:04-!-pinaraf [~quassel@host.pinaraf.info] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
22:05-!-aritsune [60f86959@107.161.19.109] has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client]
22:05-!-Dr-Shadow [~quassel@2001:41d0:a:2872::1] has joined #debian
22:05-!-Dr-Shadow is "|" on #debian #oftc #debian-soc #kernelnewbies #help
22:05-!-pinaraf [~quassel@host.pinaraf.info] has joined #debian
22:05-!-pinaraf is "Pierre Ducroquet" on #Qubes_OS #debian
22:05-!-Meistarin [~Got@2001:41d0:a:f170::1] has joined #debian
22:05-!-Meistarin is ""Got" on #g7 @#doopsrpg #debian #DoobsRPG
22:08-!-mvanorder [~mvanorder@2606:a000:4d04:1f00:3dea:1e36:89a0:b57e] has joined #debian
22:08-!-mvanorder is "realname" on #debian
22:12-!-banc [~master@217.151.98.168] has joined #debian
22:12-!-banc is "master" on #security #debian #bitlbee #awesome
22:15-!-lucascastro [~lucas@186.227.186.18] has joined #debian
22:15-!-lucascastro is "realname" on #debian-br #debian-devel-br #debian-mentors #debian-js #debian
22:15-!-dvs [~hibbard@00012127.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
22:15-!-dvs is "realname" on #debian
22:17-!-pinaraf [~quassel@host.pinaraf.info] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
22:17-!-Dr-Shadow [~quassel@2001:41d0:a:2872::1] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
22:17-!-Meistarin [~Got@2001:41d0:a:f170::1] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
22:18-!-mvanorder [~mvanorder@2606:a000:4d04:1f00:3dea:1e36:89a0:b57e] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
22:18-!-On4r4p791 [~ouroboros@159.203.38.146] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
22:18-!-Dark-Jedi [~dark-jedi@dark-jedi.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
22:18-!-Dark-Jedi is "Dark Lord" on #debian-kde #debian
22:23-!-gkt [~gkt@017.d.003.ncl.iprimus.net.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
22:23-!-gkt_ [~gkt@017.d.003.ncl.iprimus.net.au] has joined #debian
22:23-!-gkt_ is "gkt_" on #debian #debian_mentors
22:26-!-N-Mi [~nicolas@37.169.200.112] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
22:31-!-Nick1296 [~nick1296@47.204.241.185] has joined #debian
22:31-!-Nick1296 is "Nick1296" on #debian #debian-offtopic #debian-cd
22:32-!-Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87] has joined #debian
22:32-!-Haudegen is "AP,,," on #debian-kde #debian-next #debian
22:36-!-sunilmohan [~quassel@183.83.201.52] has joined #debian
22:36-!-sunilmohan is "Sunil Mohan Adapa" on #debian-arm #monkeysphere #freedombox #debian #debian-js #debian-webapps #pere #debian-in #debian-boot #debian-blends @#osdg-iiith #debian-reproducible
22:40-!-Dark-Jedi [~dark-jedi@dark-jedi.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
22:44-!-Dark-Jedi [~dark-jedi@dark-jedi.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
22:44-!-Dark-Jedi is "Dark Lord" on #debian-kde #debian
22:46-!-Dark-Jedi [~dark-jedi@dark-jedi.user.oftc.net] has quit []
22:46-!-Dark-Jedi [~dark-jedi@dark-jedi.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
22:46-!-Dark-Jedi is "Dark Lord" on #debian-kde #debian
22:47-!-Dark-Jedi [~dark-jedi@dark-jedi.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
22:47-!-Dark-Jedi [~dark-jedi@dark-jedi.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
22:47-!-Dark-Jedi is "Dark Lord" on #debian-kde #debian
22:50-!-fstd_ [~fstd@x5ce4c11d.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #debian
22:50-!-fstd_ is "fstd" on #gentoo #linuxfs #gcc #awesome #oftc #vserver #suckless #osm #linode #debian #kernelnewbies
22:51-!-ansel [~ansel@tmo-106-212.customers.d1-online.com] has joined #debian
22:51-!-ansel is "Andreas Seltenreich" on #debian
22:52-!-Dark-Jedi [~dark-jedi@dark-jedi.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
22:52-!-hackkunoichi is now known as hackkunoichi_
22:53-!-tobi [~tobi@p5DDF0B6C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #debian
22:53-!-tobi is "Tobias Frost" on #debconf17-bo #debconf17-rex #debconf17-buzz #debconf-video #debian-mia #debian-ftp #debconf #debian #debian-games #debian-mentors
22:53-!-Dark-Jedi [~dark-jedi@dark-jedi.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
22:53-!-Dark-Jedi is "Dark Lord" on #debian-kde #debian
22:53-!-anonymous_ [~anonymous@191.111.137.133] has joined #debian
22:53-!-anonymous_ is "anonymous" on #debian
22:55-!-anonymous_ [~anonymous@191.111.137.133] has quit []
22:58-!-fstd [~fstd@x4e372617.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
22:58-!-fstd_ is now known as fstd
23:00-!-tobi_ [~tobi@p5DDF28EC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
23:05-!-dutch [~dutch@static-97-66-215-42.earthlinkbusiness.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
23:05-!-vanni__ [~vanni@120.236.174.155] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
23:06-!-vanni__ [~vanni@2001:250:3002:4a44:c073:ac3f:5fb0:534c] has joined #debian
23:06-!-vanni__ is "realname" on #ceph #debian
23:08-!-rbalint [~rbalint@216.113.46.194] has joined #debian
23:08-!-rbalint is "purple" on #debian
23:16-!-Wyzard [~mike@pool-68-134-4-246.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
23:18-!-SuperDale [dalek@207.187.233.220.static.exetel.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
23:19-!-SuperDale [dalek@207.187.233.220.static.exetel.com.au] has joined #debian
23:19-!-SuperDale is "dale" on #debian
23:21-!-csotelo [~csotelo@2001:1388:49c6:f9a5:a328:3589:be40:bafd] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
23:24-!-dvs [~hibbard@00012127.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
23:25-!-KindOne_ [kindone@h152.149.29.71.dynamic.ip.windstream.net] has joined #debian
23:25-!-KindOne_ is "..." on #utdlug #tor-offtopic #suckless #qemu #php #ovirt #osm #oftc #linuxfs #linode #libevent #https-everywhere #globaleaks #gentoo #gcc #g7 #freenode #debian-next #debian #debconf #ceph #bcache #awesome #attic
23:26-!-schoppenhauer1 is "css" on #bitlbee
23:26-!-schoppenhauer1 [~schoppenh@ppp-93-104-190-219.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has joined #debian
23:26-!-pi_ [~pi@2601:98a:500:6504:3e26:6229:2f1b:55ec] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
23:27-!-schoppenhauer [~schoppenh@000135a9.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
23:29-!-jrklein [~cloud@proxy.dnihost.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
23:30-!-KindOne [kindone@kindone.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
23:30-!-KindOne_ is now known as KindOne
23:36-!-KindOne_ [kindone@h152.149.29.71.dynamic.ip.windstream.net] has joined #debian
23:36-!-KindOne_ is "..." on #utdlug #tor-offtopic #suckless #qemu #php #ovirt #osm #oftc #linuxfs #linode #libevent #https-everywhere #globaleaks #gentoo #gcc #g7 #freenode #debian-next #debian #debconf #ceph #bcache #awesome #attic
23:38-!-SuperDale [dalek@207.187.233.220.static.exetel.com.au] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
23:38-!-SuperDale [dalek@207.187.233.220.static.exetel.com.au] has joined #debian
23:38-!-SuperDale is "dale" on #debian
23:41-!-illwieckz [~illwieckz@37.171.65.73] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
23:42-!-mattcen [~mattcen@c122-108-68-124.sunsh1.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
23:43-!-KindOne [kindone@kindone.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
23:43-!-KindOne_ is now known as KindOne
23:44-!-annadane [~annadane@mtrlpq5302w-lp140-02-70-49-126-0.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
23:45-!-annadane [~annadane@mtrlpq5302w-lp140-02-70-49-126-0.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #debian
23:45-!-annadane is "realname" on #debian-kde #tor-project #tor-offtopic #tor #privacytech #debian-offtopic #debian-next #debian-mentors #debian-bugs #debian #debconf
23:45-!-pi_ [~pi@2601:98a:501:4306:cb1b:155b:d276:eab3] has joined #debian
23:45-!-pi_ is "DaRk_aNoMaLy13" on #debian-kde #debian
23:49-!-illwieckz [~illwieckz@37.160.70.137] has joined #debian
23:49-!-illwieckz is "Thomas DEBESSE" on #debian #debian-bugs @#debianfr
23:50-!-in1t3r [~LordShiva@in1t3r.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
23:52-!-in1t3r [~LordShiva@in1t3r.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
23:52-!-in1t3r is "in1t3r" on #debian @#bitcoin-sorcerers #cryptodotis #https-everywhere #otr-dev #tor-project #useotr #subgraph #tor #awesome #debconf #debian-mentors #debian-next #linode #qemu #virt
23:59-!-Ganneff [~joerg@ganneff.noc.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
---Logclosed Wed Aug 09 00:00:05 2017