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01:48<nesha>Hi guys, please help up lil old ignorant me. As per this instructions (http://libre-software.net/how-to-install-firefox-on-ubuntu-linux-mint/) i downloaded firefox to /opt, made a symlink to /usr/bin/firefox, but in these instructions, it's expected that the link in /usr/bin is firefox, when in reality it's firefox-esr. This should make things easier as I wouldn't replace firefox-esr link, but when i complete all these things, i don't kno
01:48<nesha>a firefox launcher in the gnome dash
01:50<nesha>is it ok if I make a copy of firefox-esr launcher in /usr/share/applications and just fix the link and rename it to firefox?
01:50<jm_>!ubuntuirc
01:50<dpkg>This is not the Ubuntu help channel. Please do /server chat.freenode.net and then /join #ubuntu. If you are using XChat, you can right-click the following link and choose connect. irc://chat.freenode.net/ubuntu
01:52<nesha>jm_ excuse me?
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01:54<jm_>I fail to see which part of that is not clear
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01:55<nesha>I fail too see what you're doing on a help channel if you're being a dick :)
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01:56<jm_>yes, calling people dicks will get you a long way towards getting help, dick
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02:01<nesha>being a dick when someone politely asks for advice doesn't make you any less of a dick
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03:09<Nicki>hi there, anyone familiar with thunderbird?
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03:16<Gabriel_7>Nicki: !ask
03:17<Gabriel_7>!ask
03:17<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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03:20<Nicki>I'm running Debian 9.1. When I try to reload Thunderbird, I get an error message: "Thunderbird - Could not connect to mail server <name of my postbox>; the connection was refused.". I tried to delete the dotfolders ".icedove" and ".thunderbird", but then, TB doesn't find my e-mail-server (1und1) when I try to "re-create an e-mail account" on my computer.
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03:21<grawity>"Connection was refused" usually has nothing to do with your profile
03:21<grawity>it literally means the server said "nope"
03:21<grawity>perhaps their pop3/imap service crashed
03:21<Nicki>The thing is, that it works through webmailer...
03:22<Nicki>*via webmailer
03:22<grawity>then maybe their loadbalancer crashed but the internal service still works
03:22<grawity>(official webmail often uses a more direct connection)
03:22<Nicki>loadbalancer? What'S that?
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03:22<grawity>sometimes webmail just accesses the DB directly, instead of using IMAP at all
03:23<grawity>what server name is configured in thunderbird?
03:24<grawity>can you access it directly from terminal?
03:26<Nicki> what??? terminal with thunderbird? you surely mean "$ thunderbird", don'T you?
03:27<grawity>no
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03:28<Nicki>imap.1und1.de; port 993 (default)
03:29<Nicki>outgoing server: smtp.1und1.de; port 587
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03:30<grawity>works from here; can you run `openssl s_client -connect imap.1und1.de:993` or `gnutls-cli imap.1und1.de -p 993`
03:30<grawity>whichever is installed
03:30<Nicki>as su
03:30<Nicki>?
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03:30<grawity>doesn't matter
03:30<grawity>you're just connecting to a server
03:31<grawity>if it eventually says "OK [CAPABILITY IMAP4......]", then the server is ok
03:32<Nicki>is says that.
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03:33<grove>It should work as root as well as as an ordinary user, but doing it as root is wrong. - That means the connection works, and thunderbird is misleading when it says "connection was refused"
03:33<grawity>yeah, you can ctrl+c the command now
03:33<grawity>I wonder why Thunderbird says that
03:33<grawity>either it was broken *then* but not now, or it's some other problem
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03:35<Nicki>the two commands have different content in "OK [CAPABILITY IMAP4......]"
03:35<grove>If it was my thunderbird setup I would try dumping the network traffic (with tcpdump) to see what thunderbird actually does, but I don't have the time to guide you through doing that
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03:36<grove>What two commands? - And it's probably ok, what's in those brackets is just a list of things the server supports, not anyhing that should come even remote close to a refused conection
03:37<Nicki>the two you gave me. "openssl..." and "gnutls-cli..."
03:37<grove>Oh, I see that grawity (not me, start paying attention) gave you two commands
03:38<grawity>do they vary a lot, or only the last word at the end?
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03:38<grawity>though it shouldn't matter – it's still a successful connection
03:40<Nicki>it only varies after the last white space
03:40<grawity>yeah, that's fine then
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03:41<grawity>so... if Thunderbird still doesn't work, you could try installing Wireshark and taking a look at the network
03:41<grove>Actually quite expected
03:41<Nicki>one time, gnutls says "IMAP server ready H mieue130", the next time "IMAP server ready H mieue128"...
03:42<jm_>maybe do what grove said - «tcpdump host imap.1und1.de» or «tcpdump dst port 993»
03:42<grawity>that's normal ... that hostname leads you to a whole bunch of servers, and every time you connect to a different one
03:42<jm_>probaby better to use the port variant
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03:46<Gabriel_7>grawity: maybe thunderbird is usinga (broken) proxy?
03:46<grawity>could be
03:47<Gabriel_7>By default it should not, however.
03:47<Gabriel_7>Are you sure you're using the correct port ?
03:48<Gabriel_7>(SSL/TLS instead of STARTTLS or None)
03:48<Nicki>it says "default"... so I think so. I also psted .thunderbird and .icedove (the folders) to my $HOMEDIR, where i have copied them from (on another PC of mine).
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03:49<Nicki>none of the three works.
03:49<Gabriel_7>Nicki: Look ar Tools -> Activity Manager
03:50<Nicki>yes. always the same errormessage. "Could not connect to mail server <name of my postbox>; the connection was refused."
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04:50<SynrG>good morning. backupninja's 10.sys script issues a warning on my stretch box at work after upgrading from jessie -> stretch:
04:51<SynrG>Warning: the partition table for /dev/md0 could not be saved
04:52<SynrG>it seems it iterates over all block devices and tries to dump partition tables for each. however, /dev/md0 does not, nor ever will have a partition table
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04:53<SynrG>it's unclear to me after reading the example scripts of backupninja and all doc that ships with the package how to convince backupninja to skip /dev/md0
04:53<SynrG>any ideas?
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05:45<SynrG>my issue looks like #870214
05:45<judd>Bug http://bugs.debian.org/870214 in backupninja (open, upstream): «backupninja: sys handler wrongly reports warning due to wrong devices list»; severity: normal; opened: 2017-07-31; last modified: 2017-07-31.
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06:22<tornado>hi
06:23<tornado>any one hear
06:23<jm_>!ask
06:23<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
06:23<tornado>can any one help me
06:24<tornado>i have prplem with programming
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06:27<grove>tornado: As you've already been told: just ask!
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07:42<aamin>?
07:45<voidcat>?
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08:11<DNS>if i install mediawiki from the mainrepo, and i use nginx and remove mysql/mariadb and use sqlite3 instead will a future upgrade of mediawiki via apt have conflicts?
08:12<DNS>i mean dependency problems
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08:20<blast007>DNS: for the mediawiki package, mysql is only a recommended package, not a hard dependency
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08:27<DNS>blast007: ok thx :-)
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10:01<melo12>Hi
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10:02<dvs>!ask
10:02<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
10:02<melo12>Someone is owning a Dell laptop and has this problem? https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=869658
10:02<judd>Bug http://bugs.debian.org/869658 in src:linux (open, security, upstream): «linux: system freezes when dell-smm-hwmon reads fan speed»; severity: important; opened: 2017-07-25; last modified: 2017-08-09.
10:04<grove>melo12: There was a person here yesterday that talked about that issue
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10:08<melo12>grove Debian is a great distribution but has a defect: when it comes to dealing with a problem all pull back and this is not good for the reputation that debian has to compete with windows and osx
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10:12<melo12>Assistance is the key to maintaining a gnu/linux distribution. The philosophy of everyone who does his cocks is not good!
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10:14<annadane>what
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10:15<annadane>melo12, *you* started that bug report. why are you posting here?
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10:19<melo12>annadane Because i'm looking for irc the maintainer Massimo Dal Zotto
10:21<melo12>annadane: or other experts in troubleshooting
10:21<annadane>melo12, but you already opened a bug report. the maintainers are aware.
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10:23<melo12>annadane: Yes, but they do not answer from a week
10:24<annadane>whatever
10:24<grove>Possibly because they have nothing new to say?
10:24<annadane>i'm taking myself out of this conversation
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10:25<canaima>facebook
10:25<canaima>facebook
10:25<melo12>annadane: are you responsable of Debian Kernel Team?
10:26<canaima>facebook
10:26<canaima>facebook
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10:26<melo12>canaima talk with me?
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10:30<melo12>annadane: are you see the strace_hwmon_fan1_output.txt?
10:31<annadane>i'm not helping with your problem
10:31<annadane>ifnd someone else
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10:34<melo12>annadane: To whom can I ask, that you know?
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10:42<cigar>hey
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10:45<bittin>Anyone know hows the support for the Rock64 is? https://www.pine64.org/?page_id=7147 Pines new Board thinking of maybe buying one?
10:46<heini>7c
10:46<heini>sry
10:46<bittin>whoops wrong channel
10:46<bittin>that should had been posted in #debian-ar
10:46<bittin>#debian-arm even
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13:19<tamas>hi, I have a newbie question, please help. I installed Debian desktop (Gnome). My problem it seems that the package keyring are not avaiable. How can I fix this?
13:19<petn-randall>tamas: Which package keyring?
13:19<tamas>all
13:19<petn-randall>tamas: Where are you getting this error?
13:20<petn-randall>tamas: Your package manager, or something else?
13:20<grove>!smart questions
13:20<dpkg>Go here to find out how to ask intelligent questions: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html - Be sure to look at the section http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#before - This FAQ has information to help many users solve their own problem more effectively and to help users interact more effectively with helpers. Also ask me about <reportbug>.
13:20<tamas>everywhere, where you can handle packages
13:20<grove>!bat
13:20<dpkg>In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>.
13:22<luser>perhaps secure apt that debian launched few time ago caused the issue
13:25<petn-randall>luser: secure apt has been in Debian for 10+ years now.
13:25<petn-randall>tamas: Can you provide the info from the !bat factoid?
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13:25<luser>well that's true. sorry for that stupid deduction..
13:25<petn-randall>That will help us debug your issue.
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13:29<tamas> THat is whatI get https://pastebin.com/YpWa73pM
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13:30<jmcnaught>tamas: this looks like #864640
13:30<judd>Bug http://bugs.debian.org/864640 in synaptic (open): «synaptic: when modifying repository's a file named trusted.gpg is created in /etc/apt/»; severity: normal; opened: 2017-06-12; last modified: 2017-07-31.
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13:32<jmcnaught>tamas: you can run "gpg --no-default-keyring --keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg --list-keys" to see what is in that /etc/apt/trusted.gpg file. If it's empty it is safe to delete. The problem is that synaptic stupidly creates this empty file with permissions that prevent apt-get update from working
13:32<jmcnaught>that bug should probably be more serious than normal
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13:33<tamas>thanks for the help
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13:51<BejbyFruit>I have hard time to install adobe flash in stretch, anybody can help me ?
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13:54<jmcnaught>BejbyFruit: there is no longer a package for Adobe Flash in Debian as of stretch. You can download it from Adobe and put it in ~/.mozilla/plugins/
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13:54<jmcnaught>(if you really need it, you might not… try using your sites without it)
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13:57<tamas>copy that
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13:59<BejbyFruit>jmcnaught, I have to use it no way out... copied it to self-created directory plugins in ~/.mozilla, checking ...
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14:00<BejbyFruit>omg working, you saved my ass from zombies, ty jmcnaught ;>
14:01<tamas>jmcnaught:the command created, and as result the system made gpg settings for root
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14:04<jmcnaught>tamas: what happened?
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14:07<jmcnaught>tamas: if you have never run gpg as root before then it may have created /root/.gnupg/ but did that command list any keys is what matters
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14:08<tamas>https://pastebin.com/NhuMsfvN
14:10<jmcnaught>tamas: It listed no keys in that keyring, therefore /etc/apt/trusted.gpg is safe to delete. If for some reason root having a gnupg configuration bothers you, you can delete the files that gpg created in /root/.gnupg/
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14:11<tamas>after that I changed the mirror, and the problem seems to it is gone,partialy
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14:13<jmcnaught>just trying random stuff then?
14:14<tamas>I dont have any idea
14:14<tamas>yes
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14:15<jmcnaught>tamas: good luck with that. The error you were having is related to the bug that I linked to. You've confirmed that the /etc/apt/trusted.gpg file is empty and therefore safe to delete. If you're experiencing other errors it's better to ask about them if after some research you don't understand them
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16:17<itd>jmcnaught: Since I've seen you talking about that synaptic bug (at least) twice: it seems to be okay to chmod 0644 trusted.gpg - as apt does that in postinst (https://sources.debian.net/src/apt/1.4.7/debian/apt.postinst/?hl=27)
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16:20<itd>jmcnaught: (In case that file is not empty.)
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16:28<jmcnaught>itd: thanks. So far everyone I've seen encounter that bug the file has been empty. Even with permissions 644 it seems an empty trusted.gpg keyring causes apt not to look for more keys in /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/. A non-empty keyring in trusted.gpg doesn't do this.
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16:30<bw123>wicked bug, which of the de is synaptic installed by default?
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16:40<itd>If 'judd why a b' does find a chain, does that imply that b will be installed if I'm installing a?
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16:42<itd>e.g.:
16:42<itd>judd: why task-kde-desktop synaptic
16:42<judd>Packages task-kde-desktop and synaptic in stretch/amd64 are linked by 1 chains: task-kde-desktop ▶ task-desktop ▷ task-gnome-desktop ▷ synaptic
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16:44<bw123>i apt Suggests aptitude | synaptic | wajig
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16:47<agaida>bw123: also have a look into the desktop tasks
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16:47<bw123>yeh looks like it is a reccomend of everything
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16:48<bw123>all the task-*-desktops
16:49<bw123>what about linking the trusted.gpg to something?
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16:58<Guest2156><looks at lurkers> Waht zup
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17:01<annadane>!chat
17:01<dpkg>This is not a chat channel, this is a Debian user support channel. Unless you have a Debian support question, please chat elsewhere, like #debian-offtopic, or #moocows on irc.oftc.net or ##chat on irc.freenode.net.
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17:51<aguitel>take too long time to boot ,this is plasma desktop , any tips ?
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18:01<Walex>aguitel: use SSD boot drive?
18:01<ortegex>hello
18:02<Walex>aguitel: alternatively, your system is waiting for some network resource.
18:02<ortegex>i am stuck with nvidia driver installation on newest kernel on debian unstable and the linux-headers cannot be installed
18:02<ortegex>anybody knows solution?
18:03<aguitel>Walex: this is old pc
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18:03<Walex>ortegex: 'unstable' is discussed in #debian-next where very advanced wizards like you discuss how to fix things.
18:03<Walex>aguitel: what is "long time"?
18:03<ortegex>thanks
18:04<aguitel>Walex: 65 to 80 s
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18:04<Walex>aguitel: doesn't seem too bad to me. On SSD I get around 30s
18:04<aguitel>ok
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18:04<aguitel>half time
18:04<Walex>aguitel: how much memory? which graphics chip?
18:05<aguitel>or more
18:05<aguitel>4 gb
18:05<aguitel>graphic is old
18:05<Walex>aguitel: 4G is good enough for KDE 5 as long as you don't use too many web browser tabs
18:05<aguitel>use ati
18:05<aguitel>ok
18:05<Walex>aguitel: as long as the GPU can do OpenGL accel...
18:06<aguitel>Walex: what is this ?
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18:06<Walex>aguitel: check with: grep GLX /var/log/Xorg.9.log
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18:06<Walex>aguitel: it should say "AIGLX enabled"
18:07<aguitel>Walex: No such file or directory
18:07<Walex>aguitel: check with: grep GLX /var/log/Xorg.0.log
18:08<aguitel>yes aiglx enabled
18:08<Walex>aguitel: just to be sure again: grep -- -- /var/log/Xorg.0.log | head -10
18:08<Walex>that should tell you the radeon driver is enabled
18:09<Walex>or some driver that is not "VESA"
18:11<aguitel>Walex: https://paste.debian.net/981006/
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18:12<Walex>aguitel: yes, you have full RADEON support and AIGLX, you can even play fairly nice games
18:12<aguitel>ok
18:12<aguitel>thanks
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18:15<Walex>aguitel: so the system is fairly well configured. If it feels *very* slows (waits of 10-30s) it is usually waiting for some network resource that no longer exists.
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18:15<diefi>anybody knows if libmtp has a limit on the file count in a folder?
18:15<Walex>aguitel: if it had short waits usuallly it is IO on the disk
18:15<aguitel>Walex: setting---display and monitor----compositor settings for desktop effects , in line rendering backend what are better for me? Xrender or opengl
18:15<Walex>aguitel: probably does not matter a lot, I use OpenGL.
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18:16<Walex>aguitel: if you can do special effects like the "desktops cube" quickly that's good enough.
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18:16<Walex>aguitel: try with 'Ctrl-F11'
18:16<aguitel>Walex: i disable desktop effects
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18:17<Walex>aguitel: your GPU can do them, and OpenGL/XRender is for the effects.
18:17<aguitel>a ok
18:17<Walex>aguitel: you can switch them on for testing with Alt-Shift-F12
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18:18<Walex>aguitel: actually I usually switch them off too. But some are useful, like the various "see all windows" ones.
18:18<aguitel>ok
18:19<annadane>this is a much better explaination than i gave before
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18:19<Walex>to see if you have paging/disk issues, keep 'vmstat 1' running in a Konsole and watch the 'swap' columns
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18:20<Walex>aguitel: also Ctrl-ESC and looking at "IO Read" and "IO Write" for processes
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18:39<dondelelcaro>ortegex: hey; what's the error message you're getting?
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18:40<dondelelcaro>ortegex: anyway, for unstable, you'll need to make sure you're running the newest kernel, and then you should be able to install the kernel headers
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18:40<ortegex>https://paste.gnome.org/ppfudkj24
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18:41<ortegex>is Linux home 4.11.0-2-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.11.11-1 (2017-07-22) x86_64 GNU/Linux
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18:43<dondelelcaro>ortegex: ah; yeah, that's a bug in the linux-headers package
18:44<ortegex>so i need to go back to older kernel?
18:44<itd>ortegex: For support with testing/unstable please ask in #debian-next (in future).
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18:46<dondelelcaro>itd: it's fine to ask about testing/unstable here
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18:46<dondelelcaro>itd: you just might get more help in #debian-next
18:47<dondelelcaro>ortegex: nah, you just need to wait for that package to be installed, or install it with force dependencies
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18:50<itd>dondelelcaro: If you say so. :)
18:52<jmcnaught>there really doesn't seem to be a consistent policy on this. some ops enforce testing/unstable questions in #debian-next, others do not
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18:52<jmcnaught>and it's ambiguous in the /topic
18:53<dondelelcaro>people might get pointed there when this channel is busy, but it's fine to ask such questions here
18:54<dondelelcaro>(and really, people shouldn't be pointed there unless the person who is doing the pointing is willing to assist the person there)
18:57<dondelelcaro>ortegex: does that make sense? you can apt-get download linux-headers-4.11-0-2-amd64; and dpkg -i --force-depends-version linux-headers-*.deb; after running apt-get install linux-headers-4.11-0-2-common or whatever the right package is
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19:00<dondelelcaro>jmcnaught: good point; clarifying that
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19:04<ortegex>dondelelcaro: would it cause problems later on?
19:05<ortegex>i would like to stick to apt
19:05<dondelelcaro>ortegex: yes, that's just a workaround so you can build the packages
19:05<ortegex>i have crashed my linux several times
19:05<dondelelcaro>ortegex: if you want to stick to apt, then you'll have to wait for that bug to be fixed
19:05<ortegex>:D
19:05<dondelelcaro>(this is why unstable is unstable)
19:05<ortegex>i know, but i wanted to know more about the bug :)
19:09<dondelelcaro>ortegex: the bug is just that the package was rebuilt and the dependencies are against the binary version instead of the source version
19:09<ortegex>but i still dont know how to fix that
19:10<ortegex>how can i switch
19:10<ortegex>or i just force the installation
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19:18<dondelelcaro>ortegex: you can't fix it easily
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19:18<dondelelcaro>(fixing it involves unpacking the debs and fixing the permissions)
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19:24<annadane>dondelelcaro, this was resolved in the other channel
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19:27<ortegex>thanks for help :)
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21:08<dvs>I say hello. Hello, hello
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21:24<annadane>dvs, i say, ask, ask, ask
21:25<dvs>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rblYSKz_VnI
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