| --- | Log | opened Tue Aug 15 00:00:13 2017 |
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| 00:12 | <xaxlm> | perfect |
| 00:12 | <xaxlm> | bye |
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| 00:33 | -!- | illwieckz is "Thomas DEBESSE" on @#debianfr #debian-bugs #debian |
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| 00:46 | <montty19> | hola |
| 00:46 | <annadane> | !es |
| 00:46 | <dpkg> | Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat. |
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| 01:36 | <n0rthlight> | Annadane should a bug in lets say rkhunter be reported to debian or rkhunter from what I read it would be created by Debian? |
| 01:38 | <annadane> | well if you're using the package from debian you'd file a bug against the package rkhunter in debian |
| 01:39 | <n0rthlight> | thank you. |
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| 01:39 | <annadane> | because yes, it's packaged for debian thus it has a maintainer who does the packaging |
| 01:40 | <n0rthlight> | Perfect thanks. |
| 01:42 | <iflema> | n0rthlight: make sure it is a bug and not you (maybe its been fixed upstream) and make sure that no existng bugs exist - if it does tag onto it. |
| 01:43 | <iflema> | s/existng bugs/existing bug reports |
| 01:43 | <n0rthlight> | I will look for it. Yeah it was not created by me for once. |
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| 01:43 | <n0rthlight> | 100% :P |
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| 01:45 | <iflema> | DOR attack... Denial Of Release due to flood of bug reports |
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| 01:57 | <n0rthlight> | The bug was actually I security update from debian. |
| 01:57 | <n0rthlight> | recent |
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| 01:57 | <n0rthlight> | Preventing Rkhunter to update itself. |
| 02:01 | <n0rthlight> | I was just about to fix to let it update when I read it. |
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| 02:42 | <Drzacek> | Hi |
| 02:43 | <Drzacek> | I'm installing debian now, I choose guided LVM partitioning with encryption - how can I now change the partitions size? |
| 02:44 | <Drzacek> | still in installer/partitioning window, I see he wants to assign most of the space to /home, while I would like a little bit more to the swap and / |
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| 02:56 | <n0rthlight> | there is a option to set it up yourself no the last one if I remember ? |
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| 07:11 | <cef> | I'd like to run a specific command when I press a certain key sequence, whether X is running or not, using a systemd target (eg: like the ctrl-alt-del target, but another group of keys, eg: Ctrl-Alt-Ins, or Ctrl-Alt-Home or something). Any thoughts how I'd define that? basically I want to use this like a hot debug key to capture some system state, usually when something has gone wrong. |
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| 07:14 | <Nism0> | hey guys |
| 07:14 | <Nism0> | I'm having a problem with nvidia drivers at fresh Debian Jessie installation |
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| 07:15 | <Nism0> | I followed debian guide at https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers |
| 07:15 | <Nism0> | and after reboot |
| 07:15 | <Nism0> | the resolution is better |
| 07:15 | <bremner> | not directly relevant, but why install jessie now? it's oldstable |
| 07:16 | <Nism0> | but seems like my Debian is still not using nvidia drivers |
| 07:16 | <Nism0> | bremmer: what's the difference? It doesn't really matter what version of Debian I'm using |
| 07:16 | <Nism0> | the Debian tut should work the same for all debian relieses |
| 07:16 | <Nism0> | nvm |
| 07:17 | <bremner> | as I said, not directly related to your question. |
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| 07:17 | <Nism0> | oh, ok. ur right |
| 07:17 | <Nism0> | anywya |
| 07:17 | <Nism0> | *anyway |
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| 07:17 | <bremner> | but suggests maybe your overally experience could be improved by using the current stable release |
| 07:17 | <Nism0> | I can't even run nvidia-xconfig |
| 07:18 | <Nism0> | nvidia-settings seems to be "empty" (nothing important there) |
| 07:18 | <Nism0> | What may go wrong in such a simple installation? |
| 07:19 | <Nism0> | lsmod doesn't show any nvidia or even noveau module loaded |
| 07:19 | <Nism0> | Xorg.0.log doesn't say too much about nvidia modules |
| 07:19 | <Nism0> | nor drivers |
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| 07:23 | <tomasz> | apt-get install firmware-misc-nonfree |
| 07:24 | <tomasz> | maybe |
| 07:24 | <Nism0> | tomasz: co mi to da? |
| 07:24 | <piper> | Nism0: nvidia-xconfig is deprecated |
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| 07:24 | <Nism0> | piper: but Debian tutorial says to run it after installation of nvidia driver |
| 07:25 | <piper> | Nism0: my bad, that is sid, but, still not sure you need that in todays world |
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| 07:25 | <tomasz> | Nism0: jaką masz kartę |
| 07:26 | <Nism0> | tomasz: GeForce Nvidia GTX750TI |
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| 07:30 | <Nism0> | something wrong is happening with my Debian |
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| 07:30 | <Nism0> | i'm getting 230 bps while downloading a package ... |
| 07:32 | <tomasz> | Nism0: http://www.nvidia.com/content/DriverDownload-March2009/confirmation.php?url=/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/334.21/NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-334.21.run&lang=us&type=geforcem |
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| 07:33 | <piper> | tomasz: that is a very bad move in debian |
| 07:35 | <Nism0> | tomasz: I don't need and even want Nvndia's proprietary drivers |
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| 07:35 | <Nism0> | and as piper said, it's not the "Debian way" move |
| 07:36 | <tomasz> | OK |
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| 07:37 | <piper> | Nism0: https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers the link you posted are proprietary drivers :) in case you didn't know |
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| 07:38 | <Nism0> | piper: ur right, but I meant manufacturer's drivers |
| 07:38 | <piper> | :P |
| 07:38 | <Nism0> | I called them wrong "proprietary" |
| 07:38 | <piper> | hrhr |
| 07:39 | <Nism0> | btw |
| 07:39 | <Nism0> | my fresh installation of Jessie is pretty slow |
| 07:39 | <Nism0> | may it be so because I used unetbooting to create bootable usb stick under Windows? |
| 07:40 | * | Nism0 |
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| 07:40 | <piper> | hmm catching up here, and seen this, [8/15/17 7:17 am] <bremner> but suggests maybe your overally experience could be improved by using the current stable release |
| 07:40 | * | Nism0 know's that's the bad way of making bootable usb debian stick |
| 07:40 | <piper> | ouch unetboot |
| 07:41 | <Nism0> | so... |
| 07:41 | <Nism0> | maybe I'll try to install Debian 9 |
| 07:41 | <piper> | i will repeat what bremner says maybe your overally experience could be improved by using the current stable release :P\ |
| 07:41 | <Nism0> | but w/o unetbootin |
| 07:42 | <piper> | use dd |
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| 07:44 | <Nism0> | yup |
| 07:44 | <Nism0> | btw |
| 07:44 | <Nism0> | why previous releases were named Debian GNU/Linux and since Debian 6.0 they're "only" Debian? |
| 07:44 | <piper> | something like dd if=debian-9.0.0-amd64-netinst.iso of=/dev/sxy bs=4M; sync where sxy is your stick, might want to change the name of the .iso also, as their have been updates i believe, i run unstable so not sure |
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| 07:48 | <piper> | nism0, gnu is all the software etc, linux is the kernel, maybe to just shorten the name or something like that, it's universal ;) |
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| 07:51 | <Nism0> | sounds good ;D |
| 07:51 | <bremner> | Nism0: I believe it had to do with the existence of Debian GNU/kfreebsd |
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| 07:53 | <Nism0> | how much does it take dd to write ~700 MB iso file? |
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| 07:54 | <grove> | Nism0: What do you mean? It takes ~700MB disk space |
| 07:54 | <Nism0> | how much time does it take |
| 07:55 | <grove> | That depends on the speed of your discs |
| 07:55 | <piper> | depends, usb1,usb2,usb3 |
| 07:55 | <Nism0> | more or less? |
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| 07:55 | <Nism0> | i've got usb3 stick |
| 07:56 | <piper> | anywhere from 1-4 minutes |
| 07:56 | <grove> | This weekend I dd'ed a lot of dvd's onto an NFS drive, it took 15-20 minutes per disc |
| 07:56 | <piper> | that is a small iso |
| 07:57 | <piper> | i do a 1.8 gig of our distro in under 2 minutes |
| 07:58 | <piper> | 2.5 gig in under 4 |
| 07:58 | <piper> | usb3 |
| 07:59 | <Nism0> | I'm writing ~700 iso with dd and it's over 5 minutes ;> |
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| 08:05 | <Guest2468> | Hello ! I have an annoying issue related to networkmanager, it automatically changes my DNS settings even though I don't want it |
| 08:05 | <Guest2468> | i put dns=none in NetworkManager.conf |
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| 08:05 | <Guest2468> | but it recently became useless |
| 08:06 | <itd> | Nism0: Maybe a USB 1.0 port? (Data rate around 1.5MB/s, so 7-8min for 700MB.) |
| 08:06 | <rebbdohr> | does someone know where i can see, when a certain package will be moved from testing to stable? |
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| 08:07 | <bremner> | rebbdohr: tracker.debian.org/thepackage |
| 08:07 | <bremner> | oh. well, no. |
| 08:07 | <grove> | rebbdohr: Packages doesn't move into stable automatically |
| 08:07 | <cef> | Nism0: if you have it installed already, why not just upgrade? or is that an issue re: download speed? |
| 08:07 | <bremner> | rebbdohr: mostly at the next stable release |
| 08:08 | <itd> | Guest2468: 'recently'? What changed? |
| 08:08 | <bremner> | rebbdohr: what package in particular are you interested in? |
| 08:08 | <rebbdohr> | https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/php-crypt-gpg |
| 08:09 | <rebbdohr> | i need it for roundcubes enigma plugin |
| 08:09 | <Guest2468> | itd, my resolv.conf used to stay the same until recently it was taken over again by networkmanager |
| 08:09 | <Guest2468> | # Generated by NetworkManager |
| 08:09 | <Guest2468> | is at the beginning |
| 08:10 | <Nism0> | cef: upgrading distro is often a hidden source of problmes |
| 08:10 | <Nism0> | *problems |
| 08:10 | <bremner> | rebbdohr: you might ask the maintainer about a backport |
| 08:10 | <grove> | rebbdohr: If there is a serious problem in the version in stable, an update might go into a point release of stable, otherwise new versions won't go in and you'll have to wait for the next stable release. Considering the stretch is still <2 months old, I don't think anybody can say more than "we guess that will happen in 2019" |
| 08:11 | <Guest2468> | in fact it seems that dns=none is not working |
| 08:11 | <Nism0> | I'd prefer to install it from the beginning |
| 08:11 | <rebbdohr> | grove: 2019 would be quite a long wait ;) |
| 08:12 | <Nism0> | anywya |
| 08:12 | <Nism0> | dd has done so I'm going to test it |
| 08:12 | <Nism0> | ttyl |
| 08:12 | <Nism0> | Thank you guys ;) |
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| 08:13 | <rebbdohr> | @bremner should be the best option |
| 08:13 | <Guest2468> | maybe it is an issue with net |
| 08:13 | <Guest2468> | sorry network manager |
| 08:13 | <itd> | Guest2468: Did you upgrade/install/remove any package? |
| 08:14 | <Guest2468> | I might have upgraded but don't recall |
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| 08:17 | <rebbdohr> | actually the package is not in stretch at all, so hopefully the new version will be added |
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| 08:17 | <bremner> | rebbdohr: no, a new package almost certainly won't be added to stretch |
| 08:18 | <rebbdohr> | its not a completely new package, just a newer version |
| 08:18 | <rebbdohr> | https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=php-crypt-gpg |
| 08:18 | <bremner> | I thought you said it wasn't in stretch. |
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| 08:19 | <bremner> | if so, it's new to stretch, which is what matters |
| 08:19 | <rebbdohr> | ah ok |
| 08:20 | <bremner> | you can also try backporting it yourself, although then you have to deal with security updates yourself |
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| 08:22 | <rebbdohr> | never done this... i wrote an email to debians php pear maintainers if they are planning to do a backport |
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| 08:28 | <Guest2468> | oh i noticed that resolv.conf was a symlink |
| 08:29 | <Guest2468> | weird |
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| 09:09 | <quinerr> | hi, i'm developing a system configure tool for debian. how do you get root permission for such usage? |
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| 09:12 | <grove> | quinerr: There are no usages that have special ways to get any permissions |
| 09:13 | <quinerr> | ? |
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| 09:14 | <grove> | quinerr: If your tool needs o run as root to perform it's ask, document that. Then it's up to the user of your tool to make sure it is run as root (it also is if you don't document it, but it's hard for the user to know in that case) |
| 09:14 | <grove> | s/ o / to / |
| 09:14 | <grove> | s/ ask / task / |
| 09:14 | <quinerr> | i know, but gui tool... |
| 09:14 | <Zimsky> | what's a gui? |
| 09:15 | <grove> | I wonder if it need a keyboard with a better t-key |
| 09:15 | <quinerr> | would you suggest polkit+dbus? |
| 09:15 | <gusfer> | if it is in gnome, you can use gksu |
| 09:16 | <quinerr> | but it's said gksu is going to be removed... |
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| 09:20 | <BGenc> | Greetings! I am trying to let a remote user into our network just as if they were in the same place as us. That is, being able to connect to printers etc. Main purpose is to let them use our accounting server, but because of some bizarre reason with their location they are unable to reach the ports needed. But, they are able to use any other port, including VPN. I tried to setup a PPTP server on m |
| 09:20 | <BGenc> | y Windows Server 2012, and although it does connect to the network, the subnet is blocked to 255.255.255.255 so it is useless for me. I also have a debian server which I thought I can utilize to solve this. It would be great if the normal web traffic can be separated and not tunneled by VPN, as our purpose is not privacy of their traffic but to be able to connect our server. Do any of you know whe |
| 09:20 | <BGenc> | re should I start? Any keywords that I need to know to look for? Thanks! |
| 09:22 | <quinerr> | so how do you share your printer? |
| 09:22 | <BGenc> | I don't, currently. |
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| 09:22 | <BGenc> | Normally other users in my country can connect to open ports on my static ip |
| 09:23 | <BGenc> | but the person that wants to connect is from Iran, and because of some potential blocking the port i need is blocked |
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| 09:23 | <gusfer_> | distribution |
| 09:23 | <BGenc> | The accounting program don't let me change the ports |
| 09:23 | <quinerr> | you share your printers via M$ netbios? |
| 09:24 | <BGenc> | No printer was just an example, I don't share them externally, they are only local |
| 09:24 | <BGenc> | My windows server is the one who contains the accounting program |
| 09:25 | <BGenc> | but as I can't open the port I needed for it, I'm thinking of using a vpn to connect to the network and reach internally |
| 09:25 | <quinerr> | you only want to share some *particular* services? |
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| 09:25 | <BGenc> | yes |
| 09:26 | <quinerr> | if yes, maybe port forwarding is more suitable for you. |
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| 09:26 | <BGenc> | That makes sense, but here is the issue |
| 09:26 | <BGenc> | for some reason, port 3055 is accessible in Turkey (my country) yet not accessible in Iran |
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| 09:27 | <quinerr> | why not port-forwarding to another port, say 12345 |
| 09:27 | <gusfer_> | I've been reading about debconf internals, and I saw some references for a debconf python module which I can't find neither in debian repo nor in python package index (PyPI). |
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| 09:27 | <BGenc> | I did, but I think there is a port like 3050 that also needs to be accessed, and I can't make the client connect to that |
| 09:27 | <BGenc> | that is somewhat immutable |
| 09:27 | <gusfer_> | The man page for debconf-devel says: "Perl programmers can use the Debconf::Client::ConfModule(3pm) perl module, and python programmers can use the debconf python module." |
| 09:28 | <gusfer_> | Does anyone know what happened to this module/package? |
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| 09:28 | <BGenc> | Only I can make the client think that they are connecting to 3050, but actually make them connect to 4050 or something... |
| 09:29 | <quinerr> | hmm, is it possible to make remotes do port-forwarding in their clients? |
| 09:29 | <BGenc> | I don't know if that's possible |
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| 09:31 | <quinerr> | what did you mean by 'the subnet is blocked to 255.255.255.255 so it is useless for me'? |
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| 09:32 | <BGenc> | well the device shows up in my network, but their IPv4 settings has that subnet, so it cannot see the server in the network |
| 09:32 | <quinerr> | i don't think there is an easy way to separate web traffic once you use vpn |
| 09:33 | <BGenc> | I feel like if they use any vpn they'll overcome this issue |
| 09:33 | <BGenc> | maybe their router is blocking that or something i don't know |
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| 09:33 | <quinerr> | what ip did they get |
| 09:33 | <BGenc> | they got 192.168.2.8 and server is at 192.168.2.200 |
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| 09:36 | <quinerr> | maybe your problem is just the wrong mask? |
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| 09:37 | <BGenc> | Yes, but I just can't find the solution for it |
| 09:37 | <quinerr> | network mask only affects default route, not other |
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| 09:37 | <BGenc> | what do you mean? |
| 09:38 | <grove> | Every route has a mask |
| 09:39 | <quinerr> | even with a wrong mask, with proper configure in route (enabling route forward in Linux, for example), you can still touch other hosts in the network. |
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| 09:40 | <quinerr> | did you enable 'share network' (or sth like this) in your windows server? |
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| 09:40 | <BGenc> | I didn't see it, lemme check |
| 09:40 | <BGenc> | I'm not really comfortable with windows server, it has its own way of doing things |
| 09:41 | <quinerr> | so why not use your debian server |
| 09:41 | <duclicsic> | BGenc: are you just trying to give a remote user access to services within a LAN? |
| 09:42 | <BGenc> | yup |
| 09:42 | <duclicsic> | and you said you already got them connected to a pptp server? |
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| 09:42 | <BGenc> | did it through the windows server, yes |
| 09:42 | <duclicsic> | but you weren't able to reach said services? |
| 09:43 | <duclicsic> | did you attempt some basic diagnostics like trying to ping the host you're attempting to connect to? |
| 09:44 | <BGenc> | I basically made the client app connect like they were connecting locally, with local ip and port |
| 09:44 | <duclicsic> | ok ok, it's a printer right? what is the IP of the printer? |
| 09:44 | <duclicsic> | or did i make that up |
| 09:44 | <duclicsic> | what is the IP of the thing they are trying to use? |
| 09:45 | <quinerr> | maybe you can draw a topology graph for your current network |
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| 09:45 | <BGenc> | I actually think I found what I needed |
| 09:45 | <duclicsic> | quinerr: it sounds fairly simple tbh, a lan with a single internet connection and some remote user |
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| 09:45 | <BGenc> | next to the VPN setting, there is something called DirectAccess |
| 09:46 | <duclicsic> | hold up there |
| 09:46 | <BGenc> | Apparently that fits perfectly what I want |
| 09:46 | <duclicsic> | i would suggest dropping pptp entirely and going for something like openvpn |
| 09:47 | <BGenc> | would open vpn solve that? |
| 09:47 | <duclicsic> | solve what? |
| 09:47 | <BGenc> | connect to the network, not just tunnel it |
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| 09:47 | <BGenc> | tunnel the web traffic, i meant |
| 09:48 | <duclicsic> | i don't know what you mean |
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| 09:48 | <quinerr> | duclicsic: everything can go wrong, especially for networking |
| 09:48 | <duclicsic> | when you connect to a vpn you can choose what routes you install.. if the purpose of the vpn is to provide access to some remote LAN then you configure it to only install a route for that network |
| 09:49 | <duclicsic> | all other traffic will take your regular default route |
| 09:49 | <duclicsic> | this is true of basically all vpn software |
| 09:49 | <BGenc> | by default route, what route do you mean? |
| 09:49 | <duclicsic> | openvpn is particularly configurable though |
| 09:49 | <quinerr> | in that sense, m$ pptp server is especially hard to configure |
| 09:49 | <BGenc> | lets say the client is at location A and server is at B |
| 09:49 | <duclicsic> | i mean exactly that, the "default" route. 0.0.0.0/0. |
| 09:50 | <BGenc> | oh so pptp is not really meant for this, right? |
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| 09:50 | <duclicsic> | pptp is exactly meant for this |
| 09:50 | <duclicsic> | it's just old and shit |
| 09:50 | <duclicsic> | there are better solutions now |
| 09:51 | <BGenc> | open vpn and certificates scare me, that's the only reason i stay away from it |
| 09:51 | <duclicsic> | BGenc: you can do it with a pre-shared key. both client and server get the same key and just need to refer to it in their config |
| 09:51 | <duclicsic> | it's not the most secure way to do it, but it works |
| 09:51 | <BGenc> | i guess I can give it another shot |
| 09:51 | <quinerr> | pptp is not shit, m$ service config is shit |
| 09:51 | <duclicsic> | and it's probably still more secure than pptp |
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| 09:52 | <duclicsic> | quinerr: pptp has poor security |
| 09:52 | <BGenc> | can i configure it to not tunnel web traffic though? our upload speeds are crap, like 0.8mbps crap |
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| 09:52 | <duclicsic> | "web traffic" means nothing in this context |
| 09:52 | <quinerr> | i said no easy way |
| 09:52 | <quinerr> | that how vpn works |
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| 09:53 | <duclicsic> | BGenc: what you mean is that you only want the traffic specific to the remotely accessed service to go over the vpn? |
| 09:53 | <duclicsic> | you do this with your routing table |
| 09:53 | <BGenc> | yes |
| 09:54 | <duclicsic> | if the LAN uses 192.168.1.0/24 then upon connecting of say an openvpn client it will install a route like "192.168.1.0/24 dev tun0" |
| 09:54 | <duclicsic> | (if you configure it that way) |
| 09:54 | <duclicsic> | all traffic that is not destined for that range will not go over the vpn |
| 09:54 | <duclicsic> | it will go via your existing default gatewazy |
| 09:54 | <BGenc> | what should i google to find a tutorial for it? |
| 09:55 | <duclicsic> | well, it sounds like you could do with a primer on basic routing first, without an understanding of that you'll struggle |
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| 09:56 | <duclicsic> | but i've been going back to the offical openvpn "howto" page for years now, when i need a reminder of some config |
| 09:56 | <duclicsic> | it has all you need to get started |
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| 09:56 | <BGenc> | I surely will.. let me set up an openvpn server first, connect the client, and then I'll look for all the port forwarding details |
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| 10:21 | <rmx> | Any body here... New to Kali but really want to get my hands on CEH |
| 10:21 | <grove> | !kali |
| 10:21 | <dpkg> | Kali Linux (http://www.kali.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on chat.freenode.net or http://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian>, and read http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html |
| 10:22 | <BGenc> | it made me smile to see that there is a shortcut for that haha |
| 10:23 | <rmx> | dpkg thanks for the info, will go on and seek help |
| 10:23 | <dpkg> | no problem, rmx |
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| 10:36 | <guardian> | hello, I need a hand please. I'm upgrading a wheezy box to jessie. And I noticed dist-upgrade installed linux-image-3.16.0-4-686-pae and after dist-upgrade running aptitude search '~i(!~ODebian)' lists the current kernel linux-image-3.2.0-4-686.pae |
| 10:37 | <guardian> | so I'm confused: why is the kernel installed by dist-upgrade 3.16 < 3.2? |
| 10:37 | <guardian> | whye is the current kernel listed as a non pure Debian package? |
| 10:37 | <guardian> | and more importantly what can I do about the situation? |
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| 10:39 | <Blacker47> | guardian, 16 is biger then 2. |
| 10:39 | <grove> | 3.16 > 3.2 - version numbers don't follow the rules of maths but are just a numbers of integers seperated with . |
| 10:39 | <guardian> | oh right sorry for being a noob |
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| 10:40 | <guardian> | why is 3.2 listed as non debian package then? |
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| 10:43 | <guardian> | I have another question if you don't mind. I installed mariadb from their repository because it only landed in Debian with jessie. Now that I'm upgrading from wheezy to jessie, what's the proper way to have mariadb-server and mariadb-client installed from debian repositories? |
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| 10:45 | <coruja> | guardian, i suppose you have disabled wheezy entries in sources.list, so apt can't know about the origin of 3.2 (as it's not in jessie anymore) |
| 10:45 | <guardian> | I indeed renamed wheezy ot jessie in apt sources |
| 10:46 | <coruja> | just being curious, why not another dist-upgrade to current stable stretch? |
| 10:48 | <coruja> | (before fiddling with database software, which i would uninstall old non-debian versions of in advance) |
| 10:48 | <guardian> | I thought I'm better off taking mariadb from jessie, then let it upgrade with dist-upgrade to stretch |
| 10:48 | <guardian> | instead of trying to convey old packges from wheezy to stretch |
| 10:49 | <guardian> | e.g. when I purge libmariadbclient18 |
| 10:49 | <guardian> | it has impact on exim4 and php5-mysql |
| 10:49 | <coruja> | dist-upgrades work the better the less packets are installed actually |
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| 10:50 | <coruja> | pls provide pasted logs/command output |
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| 10:51 | <coruja> | !paste |
| 10:51 | <dpkg> | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
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| 10:56 | <coruja> | guardian, at first, in any case, i would recommend creating backups of your databases, and when uninstalling i would prefer remove to purge to keep your configs (which should be backuped too) |
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| 10:56 | <guardian> | oh I'm doing all that in a virtualbox vm, to replicate the real vox |
| 10:56 | <guardian> | s/vox/box |
| 10:57 | <coruja> | i see |
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| 10:58 | <guardian> | so I have libmariadbclient18 that's still from mariadb's wheezy repositories. Is there a way to tell apt-get to replace libmariadbclient18 by libmysqlclient18 from jessie, WITHOUT uninstalling exi4m-daemon-heavy and php5-mysql? |
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| 11:00 | <coruja> | as you are testing in a vw anyway, you could let packages go and try to re-installed the needed ones afterwards |
| 11:01 | <coruja> | s/vw/vm |
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| 12:23 | <Walex> | guardian: yes. |
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| 12:42 | <melvin> | Whiich is the best open-source flash player? |
| 12:43 | <bremner> | abstinence is the best flash policy |
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| 12:43 | <melvin> | Thanks, i'll check it out... |
| 12:43 | <bremner> | otherwise, I think you're most likely stuck with the latest proprietary crap for some sitest |
| 12:43 | <bremner> | the first was (an attempt at) a joke |
| 12:44 | <melvin> | I see...the proprietary flash players are not available in stretch :( |
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| 12:45 | <coruja> | bremner, no joke but truth :) |
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| 12:53 | <_kab> | Flash for Linux isn't supported anymore |
| 12:54 | <_kab> | So go Chrome if you really need it |
| 12:54 | <_kab> | It's the only way to get a relatively recent and secure version |
| 12:54 | <_kab> | Not open source though |
| 12:54 | <bremner> | ah, that's a good-ish suggestion. |
| 12:56 | <_kab> | And I thought I get slaughtered here for suggesting proprietary software ;) |
| 12:57 | <bremner> | well, that's my point above: when you really need flash, it seems like the free options are not working well these days. |
| 12:57 | <Naksu> | i would argue that they never worked |
| 12:57 | <bremner> | actually, I think even chrome didn't work for me last time, and I just borrowed a laptop with windows on it :( |
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| 12:59 | <hthoreau> | Good evening. |
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| 13:00 | <hthoreau> | I'm trying to install the wordpress package available through the Debian repository, and have it setup using an LEMP configuration. |
| 13:00 | <_kab> | It does work for me. Google doesn't really want you using Flash either though so you might need to change settings for the website you're on and click through a million of confirmation dialogues. |
| 13:00 | <hthoreau> | For that, I refered to the instructions available at https://wiki.debian.org/WordPress |
| 13:04 | <hthoreau> | Though, when it referred to a conf file to use at apache's sites-available folder, I instead used the example conf file for nginx available at /usr/share/doc/wordpress/examples/nginx-wordpress.conf |
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| 13:04 | <hthoreau> | And set it at its respective sites-available folder. |
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| 13:05 | <hthoreau> | By reaching the end of the instructions, and calling it in the browser, I get the following error message: |
| 13:05 | <hthoreau> | "Resolving a hostname to an IP address list included the IPv4 address "127.0.53.53". This is a special IP address which ICANN has recommended to indicate there was a name collision, and alert admins to a potential problem. http://debianwordpress.dev/wp" |
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| 13:08 | <ach> | hi |
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| 13:09 | <_kab> | hthoreau: Your local domain .dev (or better dev.) is also an ICANN domain now |
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| 13:10 | <ach> | ? |
| 13:10 | <hthoreau> | _kab: Should pick something else then. |
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| 13:11 | <blast007> | like .icannsucks |
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| 13:12 | <_kab> | Better something actually standard compliant |
| 13:13 | <_kab> | Either test. or local. |
| 13:13 | <blast007> | local is reserved for zeroconf |
| 13:13 | <_kab> | Yeah |
| 13:13 | <_kab> | But nobody cares ;) |
| 13:13 | <blast007> | except when you start using it and avahi/boujour makes it break |
| 13:14 | <blast007> | so don't use local |
| 13:14 | <bremner> | or don't use avahi |
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| 13:14 | <bremner> | at least I never noticed avahi doing anything useful for me |
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| 13:16 | <ICHIM> | hi |
| 13:16 | <_kab> | The optimal solution of course would be to use a subdomain of an actual domain that belongs to you |
| 13:16 | <_kab> | But (almost) nobody does that either |
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| 13:18 | <ICHIM> | How to get on another server? |
| 13:18 | <_kab> | Like IRC server? |
| 13:19 | <ICHIM> | krakow.irc.pl |
| 13:19 | <_kab> | I'd suggest looking into the manual of your IRC client |
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| 13:20 | <_kab> | ICHIM: https://hexchat.readthedocs.io/en/latest/getting_started.html#quick-start |
| 13:21 | <ICHIM> | Ok thanks for the helP |
| 13:22 | <ach> | hi ICHIM |
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| 13:24 | <ICHIM> | HI |
| 13:25 | <ICHIM> | I have a question for you |
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| 13:27 | <ICHIM> | Will somebody help me? |
| 13:28 | <bremner> | depends on the question. |
| 13:29 | <ICHIM> | I made payload and as I tried to turn it on another pc it did not work |
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| 13:29 | <bremner> | what's the connection with debian? |
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| 13:30 | <ICHIM> | I'm new to this and I do not even know what debian it is |
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| 13:31 | <bremner> | then this is almost certainly not the right channel for your question. Debian is an operating system. |
| 13:31 | <_kab> | Debian is a Linux distribution. Visit debian.org for details |
| 13:32 | <dboles> | do you mean "what debian is" or "which debian i have" |
| 13:32 | <_kab> | Judging from your CTCP reply you're using Kali Linux which is a different Linux distribution |
| 13:33 | <_kab> | I imagine therefor your question is in regards to metasploit or something similar |
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| 13:36 | <amacater> | !kali |
| 13:36 | <dpkg> | Kali Linux (http://www.kali.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on chat.freenode.net or http://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian>, and read http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html |
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| 13:38 | <_chaos> | hi ... i'm looking at https://www.howtoforge.com/debian_subversion_websvn and it says to use htpasswd2 but apt-file find htpasswd gives zero results... help plz1 |
| 13:39 | <_chaos> | *apt-file find htpasswd2 <dah> |
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| 13:43 | <_kab> | _chaos: Try just htpasswd |
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| 13:45 | <_kab> | The tutorial you're looking at is probably outdated. |
| 13:46 | <_kab> | From what I can see htpasswd(2) has been renamed back and forth a few times |
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| 13:47 | <hthoreau> | blast007, _kab, I changed it to debianwordpress.test. Still, "This site can’t be reached because server DNS address could not be found". It seems that though I got that ICANN alert, it was unreleated to the fact of that the link wasn't working to start with. |
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| 13:48 | <_kab> | Have you tried accessing it the good old fashioned way over 127.0.0.1? |
| 13:48 | <ach> | <. |
| 13:49 | <ach> | <* |
| 13:49 | <hthoreau> | _kab: "502 Bad Gateway nginx/1.10.3" |
| 13:50 | <_kab> | Well that's a start |
| 13:50 | <_kab> | Sounds like you haven't setup PHP correctly |
| 13:50 | <_kab> | for nginx |
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| 13:51 | <hthoreau> | Hm. I might have not... |
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| 13:52 | <hthoreau> | Well I'll look into the PHP part then. Thanks _kab. |
| 13:53 | <_kab> | To your domain name issue are you sure you have the entry in /etc/hosts set correctly? |
| 13:53 | <_kab> | You can do ping $hostname to verify that |
| 13:53 | <_chaos> | _kab: thanks :) that's what I ddi when there was no response and it seems to have worked |
| 13:53 | <_kab> | (dig and host will NOT yield the expected result) |
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| 14:01 | <guardian> | in stretch, what's the proper way to enable /tmp on tmpfs? /etc/default/tmpfs says it's not compatible by systemd |
| 14:02 | <guardian> | s/by/with |
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| 14:06 | <dboles> | guardian: https://paste.gnome.org/p7fr5k5vp (pretend i pasted the leading "c") |
| 14:06 | <dboles> | pretty sure it's a standard thing that already exists and just needs to be enabled |
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| 14:11 | <hubot> | Hi! |
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| 14:11 | <hubot> | How can I delete my firstname and lastname from https://contributors.debian.org/contributor/hubot-guest@alioth/? |
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| 14:12 | <hubot> | I don't want show my firstname and lastname in Debian contributors list. |
| 14:12 | <guardian> | dboles: thanks gonna have a look |
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| 14:15 | <guardian> | I have another question: in jessie I had: /var/lib/mysql/piwik is a symlink to /home/piwik (because /home is large) |
| 14:15 | <guardian> | after having migrated to stretch, mariadb doesn't see the piwik database because of the symlink |
| 14:16 | <guardian> | does someone know what I should tweak so that mysql follow the symlink? |
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| 14:21 | <annadane> | i guess contact the webmaster, hubot |
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| 14:24 | <bremner> | hubot: the people on #debian-newmaint might be able to help |
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| 14:30 | <_kab> | guardian: Some blog suggests symbolic-links=1 on the my.cnf |
| 14:30 | <_kab> | I can't find official docs on that option right now |
| 14:31 | <_kab> | Alternatively you could setup a bind mount |
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| 14:35 | <guardian> | _kab doesn't work |
| 14:35 | <_kab> | Yeah I expected that |
| 14:36 | <_kab> | A bind mount would be an alternative, but those are kinda painful too |
| 14:37 | <guardian> | hmm |
| 14:37 | <guardian> | also, I find it strange /etc/mysql/my.cnf is a symlink to /etc/alternatives/my.cnf |
| 14:38 | <guardian> | and /etc/alternatives/my.cnf is a symlink to /etc/mysql/my.cnf.migrated |
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| 14:42 | <guardian> | is it expected or did something go wrong on my wheezy -> jessie -> stretch upgrade path? |
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| 14:49 | <agaida> | welcome to the debian alternatives system - and the change from mysql to mariadb - i would guess |
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| 14:51 | <syzio> | hey |
| 14:51 | <syzio> | anyone here |
| 14:51 | <annadane> | !ask |
| 14:51 | <dpkg> | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 14:52 | <syzio> | can u tell me what is use of hexchat |
| 14:53 | <syzio> | and how i find who is online |
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| 14:53 | <dboles> | this channel is about using debian |
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| 14:54 | <canaima> | CANAIMA |
| 14:54 | <canaima> | HNJHGIJ |
| 14:54 | <MagicFab> | dboles, hexchat is in Debian |
| 14:54 | <MagicFab> | syzio, it's an IRC client. |
| 14:55 | <canaima> | JKJJK |
| 14:55 | <annadane> | canaima, stop spamming |
| 14:55 | <MagicFab> | syzio, there is now way to tell who is really online. Even if a channel has dozens of users, they may have clients connected from servers, etc. |
| 14:55 | <canaima> | KK |
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| 14:56 | <guardian> | agaida: I'll intall a fresh stretch and see how files are aranged there. I'm so maniacal that at that point I believe I prefer re-reading my /etc git/etckeeper log and apply changes on a fresh stretch :/ wheezy -> jessie -> stretch was such a journey |
| 14:57 | <MagicFab> | annadane, is there a list of shortcuts for this channel somewhere? |
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| 14:58 | <annadane> | MagicFab, no idea, sorry |
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| 15:02 | <syzio> | ohk |
| 15:03 | <rajudev_> | http://metrics.debian.net/ is down? |
| 15:03 | <annadane> | syzio, you should have a user list on the right hand side? if you're on hexchat |
| 15:03 | <bremner> | rajudev_: looks so |
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| 15:04 | <syzio> | yep |
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| 15:04 | <luispc> | hello_ |
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| 15:05 | <syzio> | hey is their any way so i can talk 2 u any time annadane |
| 15:05 | <luispc> | speak a spninsh |
| 15:05 | <syzio> | sorry |
| 15:05 | <syzio> | i can't |
| 15:06 | <annadane> | !es |
| 15:06 | <dpkg> | Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat. |
| 15:06 | <syzio> | can u tell me |
| 15:07 | <syzio> | magicfab, hi |
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| 15:09 | <dboles> | do you have a question about using debian? this is not a general chatroom |
| 15:09 | <syzio> | nope |
| 15:09 | <luispc> | Well this is supposed to be the technical support of debian |
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| 15:10 | <syzio> | k |
| 15:10 | <syzio> | so how i make friends here |
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| 15:10 | <dboles> | the point is that this channel is for helping people with questions about debian, not for socialising |
| 15:11 | <syzio> | ohk |
| 15:11 | <dboles> | there are bound to be better places to socialise or talk about topics that interest you, which evidently debian isn't |
| 15:11 | <luispc> | hola alguien habla espa;ol |
| 15:12 | <dboles> | please, use the correct channel if you want to converse in a non-English language |
| 15:12 | <dboles> | !es |
| 15:12 | <dpkg> | Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat. |
| 15:12 | <syzio> | so u all are master coders |
| 15:12 | <syzio> | or legends |
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| 15:12 | * | dboles feels like i've heard this script before |
| 15:13 | <syzio> | can u help how do i start codings |
| 15:13 | <syzio> | or how become like u all |
| 15:13 | <dboles> | once again, none of this is on-topic |
| 15:14 | <syzio> | this is rude |
| 15:14 | <dboles> | at least go to #debian-offtopic |
| 15:14 | <dboles> | no, what's rude is not using the channel for what it's intended for, and expecting everyone here to entertain you |
| 15:15 | <syzio> | sorry |
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| 15:15 | <syzio> | but i want to become like u all |
| 15:15 | <luispc> | My system operation is running is a parrot security os I have a problem I'm hanging on to be due |
| 15:15 | <syzio> | only i want some tips |
| 15:15 | <dboles> | we're just users of debian; there is no "us". if you want to use debian, then use it, maybe then you'll have something on-topic to talk about |
| 15:15 | <dboles> | !parrot |
| 15:15 | <dpkg> | Parrot OS (https://www.parrotsec.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution. It is based on Debian testing, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #parrot on irc.frozenbox.org or try the mailing lists at http://lists.parrotsec.org/listinfo. Also ask me about <based on debian>. |
| 15:15 | <luispc> | espa;ol como pongo esto en espa;ol xd |
| 15:16 | <dboles> | bots are weird these days |
| 15:16 | <luispc> | goodbyte |
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| 15:17 | <syzio> | ohk |
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| 15:19 | <grove> | syzio: You don't, this channel is not for making friends, but for getting help with Debian |
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| 15:19 | <grove> | !chat |
| 15:19 | <dpkg> | This is not a chat channel, this is a Debian user support channel. Unless you have a Debian support question, please chat elsewhere, like #debian-offtopic, or #moocows on irc.oftc.net or ##chat on irc.freenode.net. |
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| 15:19 | <luispc> | hello xdxdxdxdxdxd |
| 15:19 | <dboles> | always in pairs |
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| 15:20 | <syzio> | k |
| 15:21 | <syzio> | thanks 4 help |
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| 16:08 | <guardian> | So. I had /var/lib/mysql/piwik -> /home/piwik because /home is a larger partition. When I upraded from Jessie to Stretch, this stopped working (as in mysql doesn't list the piwik db when doing show databases;) |
| 16:08 | <guardian> | My /home has 755 permissions, owned by root |
| 16:09 | <guardian> | interestingly, when I create /foo with 755 permissions, owned by root, then mv /home/piwik /foo/, and then symlink /var/lib/mysql/piwik -> /foo/piwik now mysql sees the piwik db |
| 16:09 | <guardian> | what would make /home special? |
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| 16:11 | <Walex> | guardian: AppArmor? |
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| 16:11 | <guardian> | I suspect that |
| 16:11 | <guardian> | but I don't know AppArmor and dpkg-query -l only lists libapparmor |
| 16:11 | <Walex> | guardian: if you have it and it is enabled it will do that. |
| 16:11 | <guardian> | does it mean it's enabled? |
| 16:11 | <Walex> | guardian: could be SElinux |
| 16:12 | <rajudev_> | Happy Debian Day everyone, as well as Happy Birthday GNOME |
| 16:12 | <guardian> | never installed SElinux or AppArmor explicitly |
| 16:12 | <guardian> | I have libselinux1 installed as well it seems |
| 16:12 | <Walex> | guardian: unlikely; also you chould be getting kernel warning messages. |
| 16:12 | <guardian> | but just that |
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| 16:12 | <guardian> | and I can't find anything in mysql.err log |
| 16:12 | <Walex> | guardian: would be in the system log. |
| 16:13 | <Walex> | guardian: other possibility: permissions on '/home' |
| 16:13 | <guardian> | permissions are 755 |
| 16:13 | <guardian> | I tried to move piwik data to /foo/piwik, with /foo created with 755 permissions, owned by root, just like /home |
| 16:13 | <guardian> | and it works |
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| 16:13 | <Walex> | guardian: can't believe you. |
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| 16:14 | <Walex> | ls -ld /var/lib/mysql/piwik /foo/piwik /foo /home |
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| 16:15 | <Walex> | guardian: then again after: mv /foo/piwik /home/piwik; rm /var/lib/mysql/piwik; ln -s /home/piwiki /var/lib/mysql/piwik |
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| 16:15 | <guardian> | !pastebin |
| 16:15 | <dpkg> | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
| 16:16 | <Walex> | guardian: 'pastebinit'... |
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| 16:16 | <guardian> | http://paste.debian.net/981488/ |
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| 16:17 | <Walex> | then it should not really not make a difference. |
| 16:18 | <Walex> | guardian: unless somehow MariaDB/MySQL verify whether the filesystem is the same. |
| 16:18 | <Walex> | guardian: which they shouldn't. |
| 16:18 | <guardian> | about your last remark: could be BUT I'm currently debugging on a replica which is a single partition virtual box vm :( |
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| 16:18 | <guardian> | so /home is same partition as /foo in current tests |
| 16:19 | <Walex> | guardian: then gremlins :-) |
| 16:19 | <Guest2503> | Hello All, first time. |
| 16:19 | <guardian> | Walex: bonus, when I mount bind /var/lib/mysql/piwik instead of a symlink it also works |
| 16:19 | <Walex> | rajudev_: it is also Indian Independence Day |
| 16:19 | <guardian> | Walex: so something is angry at /home |
| 16:19 | <Walex> | guardian: hard to believe. |
| 16:20 | <Walex> | guardian: ls -ld / |
| 16:20 | <Walex> | guardian: just in case? |
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| 16:20 | <guardian> | 755, owned by root |
| 16:20 | <Walex> | guardian: should not make a difference between '/home' and '/foo' though |
| 16:20 | <guardian> | yeah that's what I thought as well :( until starting that mystery debugging session :) |
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| 16:21 | <guardian> | nothing of interest in /var/log/syslog |
| 16:22 | <Walex> | guardian: 'dmesg'? '/var/log/audit/'? |
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| 16:22 | <guardian> | Jdmesg is all about usb and hid |
| 16:23 | <guardian> | I don't have /var/log/audit |
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| 16:24 | <guardian> | dammit |
| 16:24 | <guardian> | I think I found it |
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| 16:24 | <guardian> | by doing grep -R '/home' * in /etc |
| 16:24 | <guardian> | mysql.service has ProtectHome=true with a comment that says "Prevent accessing /home, /root and /run/user" |
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| 16:26 | <guardian> | the more you know... |
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| 16:28 | <Walex> | guardian: ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh 'systemd'! :-) |
| 16:28 | <guardian> | I'm such a systemd noob |
| 16:28 | <guardian> | it's all uphill for the casual sysadmin I am |
| 16:29 | <Walex> | guardian: trying to do the same job as AppArmor or SELinux. Total domination! |
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| 16:30 | <guardian> | :( |
| 16:30 | <spacebug^> | tries to be Lisa in Simpsons, but ends up being Ralph :) |
| 16:30 | <Walex> | guardian: https://mariadb.com/kb/en/mariadb/systemd/ |
| 16:30 | <guardian> | whatever... |
| 16:31 | <guardian> | I wish I could set exeptions to ProtectHome |
| 16:32 | <Walex> | guardian: you just need to use 'mount --bind' |
| 16:32 | <guardian> | sure doing that already |
| 16:32 | <guardian> | I just didn't want to give up and undertand what was happening |
| 16:32 | <Walex> | guardian: that is a very good decision. |
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| 16:35 | * | Walex is still amazed that 'systemd' has in effect replaced AppArmor too |
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| 17:03 | <hedkas> | SOundcard Intel 82801H - no sound in debian jessy - can anybody help on that? |
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| 17:03 | <yasser> | help |
| 17:04 | <yasser> | me |
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| 17:08 | <hubot> | I configured remote ssh cryptsetup unlocking and followed these tutorials: https://stinkyparkia.wordpress.com/2014/10/14/remote-unlocking-luks-encrypted-lvm-using-dropbear-ssh-in-ubuntu-server-14-04-1-with-static-ipst/ and http://paxswill.com/blog/2013/11/04/encrypted-raspberry-pi/ |
| 17:09 | <hubot> | But I'm giving following error at boot after unlocking encrypted debian device: "Error: unexpectedly disconnected from boot status daemon" |
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| 17:10 | <hubot> | This error doesn’t seem to happen if LUKS passphrase is directly entered at the device console but I want to be able remotely unlock encrypted device. |
| 17:10 | <hubot> | Can you help me? |
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| 17:17 | <annadane> | is there a general jessie -> stretch changes list? |
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| 17:19 | <annadane> | oh never mind i guess it's https://wiki.debian.org/NewInStretch |
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| 20:16 | <OutlawActual> | o/ |
| 20:17 | <OutlawActual> | looking for some help, installation stuck at configuring the package manager after "inserting" dvd 2 |
| 20:17 | <OutlawActual> | trying to install as a VM |
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| 20:30 | <OutlawActual> | anyone awake? |
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| 20:30 | <Mikes133> | OutlawActual: can you switch to tty4 and check logs? |
| 20:32 | <Mikes133> | otherwise you could try a netinst iso if you have a internet connection to the VM |
| 20:34 | <OutlawActual> | Will the netinst end up downloading all the packages equivalent of the 3 dvd isos? |
| 20:34 | <Mikes133> | it will ask you to choose if you want a desktop environment, and which one etc |
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| 20:35 | <OutlawActual> | ok, thank you, will give that a try |
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| 21:22 | <OutlawActual> | I'm using the latest verion of VMWare Workstation Pro, Debian 9.x is not listed |
| 21:22 | <OutlawActual> | the latest one is 8.x |
| 21:22 | <OutlawActual> | is this a problem? |
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| 21:26 | <bremner> | sounds like a question for vmware |
| 21:26 | <bremner> | if you're asking, should you use debian 9 instead of debian 8, the answer is almost certainly yes. |
| 21:28 | <OutlawActual> | i guess my question is more along the lines of "If I select debian 8 from the drop down then proceed to use debian 9 install disks, will this create a problem" |
| 21:28 | <Mikes133> | It will not be a problem, I have tested this myself |
| 21:28 | <OutlawActual> | ok, good to know |
| 21:29 | <OutlawActual> | i'm not sure why my install is getting stuck after it askes me to put in addition cd/dvd |
| 21:29 | <bremner> | can't you use netinstall? |
| 21:30 | <OutlawActual> | in the process now |
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| 21:53 | <rjsalts> | Is /usr/share/doc/krb5-kdc-ldap/kerberos.ldif.gz the schema that I can just include in cn=config? Or do I still need to do the conversion from /usr/share/doc/krb5-kdc-ldap/kerberos.schema using slapcat -f temp-slapd.conf ... |
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| 23:03 | <dolphin> | hi |
| 23:03 | <dolphin> | i need help with package problem |
| 23:04 | <dolphin> | trying to install tracktion which is a software for music production |
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| 23:06 | <rjsalts> | doesn't seem to be packaged in debian |
| 23:06 | <rjsalts> | 3rd party providing debs? |
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| 23:07 | <dolphin> | https://pastebin.com/1qm5YCq9 |
| 23:07 | <dolphin> | i could try |
| 23:08 | <dolphin> | is it an error that can be fixed? |
| 23:08 | <rjsalts> | They're lintian errors, so you're trying to create a package for this? |
| 23:09 | <dolphin> | well im trying to install a .deb |
| 23:09 | <annadane> | !frankendebian |
| 23:09 | <dpkg> | When you get random packages from random repositories, mix multiple releases of Debian, or mix Debian and derived distributions, you have a mess. There's no way anyone can support this "distribution of Frankenstein" and #debian certainly doesn't want to even try. See if you can convince ##linux to help. |
| 23:11 | <dolphin> | frankendebian um lol is meant to be a linux slur because i can your point of course |
| 23:11 | <rjsalts> | dolphin: log a request for support from the vendor |
| 23:11 | <dolphin> | is debian not compatible with ubuntu based debian |
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| 23:12 | <rjsalts> | dolphin: the packages are not necessarily compatible, but this is complaining because they have bad stuff going on in their package which is counter to debian policy |
| 23:13 | <rjsalts> | dolphin: and they haven't marked it as breaking any of those policies |
| 23:13 | <annadane> | and just in general installing a .deb file randomly is bad unless you specifically know what you're doing |
| 23:13 | <dolphin> | policy such as foss |
| 23:13 | <dolphin> | huh |
| 23:13 | <rjsalts> | dolphin: either that or they have simple mistakes in their build system |
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| 23:14 | <dolphin> | so a random .deb is bad but a ubuntu based .deb is more safe/ |
| 23:14 | <rjsalts> | dolphin: the E: waveform8: embedded-library usr/bin/Waveform8: libpng means that they have a copy of libpng included in the binary, instead of linking against the system's libpng |
| 23:14 | <rjsalts> | dolphin: this is a perfectly reasonable thing for them to do, but debian maintained packages should not do this |
| 23:15 | <annadane> | https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian has some good general advice |
| 23:15 | <rjsalts> | dolphin: they just have to tell the packaging system that they're violating this packaging stipulation made by debian |
| 23:15 | <dolphin> | so it wont work/ |
| 23:15 | <dolphin> | or is it against policy? |
| 23:16 | <rjsalts> | The E: waveform8: uses-deprecated-compression-for-data-tarball lzma just means that their package is in a deprecated compression format |
| 23:16 | <dolphin> | can i fix it myself? |
| 23:16 | <rjsalts> | dolphin: it's not working because they haven't said we're deliberately breaking these policies in their package |
| 23:16 | <dolphin> | ah |
| 23:17 | <dolphin> | can i fix it for personal use? |
| 23:17 | <dolphin> | or is just not possible due to technical reasons |
| 23:18 | <dolphin> | thats the part thats not clear. |
| 23:18 | <rjsalts> | dolphin: the easiest way to get it fixed is to ask the person/company who provided the deb for support |
| 23:18 | <dolphin> | i appreciate your help though |
| 23:18 | <dolphin> | alright |
| 23:19 | <dolphin> | btw what is an acpi error? |
| 23:19 | <annadane> | and i guess what you can do is if the source code is available it can be compiled for debian as non-root |
| 23:20 | <annadane> | unless someone is kind enough to make a package for it or you want to try yourself |
| 23:20 | <rjsalts> | I thought lintian was only checked at build time, but you're getting this just when doing dpkg -i foo.deb |
| 23:20 | <rjsalts> | ? |
| 23:20 | <annadane> | maybe installing a .deb might be fine in specific cases but the general idea is not to do that |
| 23:20 | <rjsalts> | dolphin: acpi is the power management system in linux |
| 23:21 | <annadane> | as far as my understanding goes, feel free to correct me if not... |
| 23:21 | <dolphin> | is there a way to update some kind of hardware so i dont get this error anymore |
| 23:21 | <rjsalts> | I think it will depend on the error |
| 23:22 | <dolphin> | why does acpi error show on some computers and not others? |
| 23:22 | <annadane> | "If you are building software from source obtained otherwise than from Debian, it's a good idea to build and run it as a normal user, within that user's home directory. If you keep sensitive, valuable, or non-replaceable data in your home directory, it might be a good idea to create another user account for this purpose." from https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian |
| 23:23 | <dolphin> | lol this is commercial software no source of course |
| 23:23 | <annadane> | yeah |
| 23:23 | <dolphin> | i don't understand why i see that acpi error |
| 23:24 | <dolphin> | i really it fixed |
| 23:24 | <dolphin> | even if i have to buy new hardware |
| 23:24 | <dolphin> | is this the correct place to discuss this? |
| 23:24 | <annadane> | i have those too and i'm not sure why mysel |
| 23:24 | <annadane> | f |
| 23:24 | <dolphin> | it drives it nuts |
| 23:25 | <dolphin> | i see |
| 23:25 | <annadane> | i've been ignoring it because it boots and everything seems to work anyway :D |
| 23:25 | <dolphin> | but it grinds my gears |
| 23:25 | <rjsalts> | dolphin: what is the error? |
| 23:25 | <dolphin> | acpi error |
| 23:26 | <rjsalts> | dolphin: is it something that's in the log files, or is it displayed elsewhere? |
| 23:26 | <dolphin> | oh its a boot error |
| 23:26 | <dolphin> | its not a problem of anykind |
| 23:27 | <annadane> | yeah, it comes up on boot |
| 23:27 | <dolphin> | its just something that happens with unsupported hardware |
| 23:27 | <rjsalts> | This is relevant, even though it's from redhat https://access.redhat.com/articles/65378 |
| 23:27 | <dolphin> | its just annoying |
| 23:27 | <annadane> | pre-GRUB, iirc |
| 23:27 | <dolphin> | yes |
| 23:28 | <dolphin> | i would love to know what hardware i could replace to fix it |
| 23:28 | <annadane> | you probably could avoid it (don't quote me on this) by purchasing linux specific hardware |
| 23:28 | <annadane> | that's my feeling |
| 23:28 | <rjsalts> | dolphin: it's about the motherboard, see if there is a firmware update for your motherboard |
| 23:28 | <annadane> | ahh |
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| 23:28 | <dolphin> | is that the same as a bio update |
| 23:29 | <dolphin> | i have the latets bios |
| 23:29 | <rjsalts> | okay, same deal |
| 23:29 | <dolphin> | my pc is an m51ac from asus |
| 23:29 | <dolphin> | i7 16 gig ram |
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| 23:30 | <dolphin> | so your saying that i need to buy a new motherboard that supports acpi? |
| 23:30 | <annadane> | no, he said see if there's a firmware update |
| 23:30 | <rjsalts> | no, your motherboard supports acpi |
| 23:31 | <dolphin> | so a firmware update is not the same as a bios update? |
| 23:31 | <annadane> | i may as well get this fixed for me too though i'm on sid, but that shouldn't matter in this case |
| 23:31 | <rjsalts> | the problem is that linux is expecting different things than your motherboard is providing because they've got a disagreement on what the acpi spec says |
| 23:31 | <rjsalts> | and motherboard manufactures usually only test against windows |
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| 23:32 | <dolphin> | so if i have the latest bios update and i see that error then the only answer is to buy a new motherboard with inux suported bios |
| 23:32 | <rjsalts> | or ignore it |
| 23:33 | <annadane> | and also i think even if you didn't have those errors i suspect the boot time would be the same |
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| 23:33 | <annadane> | having the messages doesn't increase the time it takes to boot up i would think |
| 23:33 | <dolphin> | well at least i know why it happens but its not a problem of any kind though? |
| 23:34 | <rjsalts> | it means that some of the power related features won't work (e.g. automatic fan speed control, suspend/hibernate, etc ) |
| 23:34 | <annadane> | it apparently can interfere with power management but my general rule is if you don't notice a problem it probably isn't worth worrying about |
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| 23:34 | <annadane> | that said that general rule is probably lazy as hell and probably shouldn't be emulated |
| 23:35 | <dolphin> | suspend and hibertae key works |
| 23:35 | <annadane> | rjsalts, not sure if the question was answered but i'd also like to know whether the motherboard is the same as bios |
| 23:35 | <rjsalts> | dolphin: there may be fixes in other linux kernels where they've addressed particular peculiarities of your motherboard to act "more like windows" |
| 23:36 | <dolphin> | hibernate on my qwerty |
| 23:36 | <annadane> | right, kernels can be potentially backported |
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| 23:36 | <dolphin> | i believe that to be true linux mint sems to have that fixed |
| 23:37 | <dolphin> | ubuntu too |
| 23:37 | <rjsalts> | the motherboard is a physical piece of electronics, the bios is a bunch of hardcoded software to make that bunch of physical electronics function |
| 23:37 | <annadane> | whether the backported kernel will remove the errors is another question however |
| 23:38 | <dolphin> | do you know how i would search for which distros have fixed the problem |
| 23:38 | <dolphin> | and what would i be looking for in terms of tech |
| 23:38 | <dolphin> | i can tell you my motherboard if that helps |
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| 23:39 | <dolphin> | Intel® H87 |
| 23:40 | <rjsalts> | Didn't you say it was an asus m51ac? |
| 23:40 | <dolphin> | yes |
| 23:40 | <dolphin> | why do you have that al;so |
| 23:40 | <rjsalts> | nope |
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| 23:41 | <dolphin> | is the h87 the actual mother |
| 23:41 | <annadane> | i think what rjsalts said before is true here, "acpi" is a general class of problem and your solution will depend on your specific hardware and also the specific error |
| 23:43 | <rjsalts> | nope, it's just the chipset for the northbridge/southbridge, asus will have added additional stuff based on that chipsets capabilities in all likelihood |
| 23:43 | <dolphin> | ok i get yous that info |
| 23:43 | <dolphin> | tommorow |
| 23:44 | <rjsalts> | you've given all the info |
| 23:44 | <dolphin> | oh? |
| 23:44 | <dolphin> | can you tell me how do i stop that error? |
| 23:45 | <rjsalts> | as in, you don't have many options, about the only additional thing you could look at is the output from where it's initialising the acpi drivers |
| 23:45 | <rjsalts> | have no idea |
| 23:46 | <rjsalts> | apart from the try a newer kernel, or an older kernel and google search for things in dmesg |
| 23:46 | <dolphin> | but not going to cause any kind of stability isshsues |
| 23:46 | <rjsalts> | it means some functionality might be missing |
| 23:47 | <rjsalts> | but it shouldn't cause things to fail |
| 23:47 | <rjsalts> | it might mean your computer uses more electricity than if those features were available |
| 23:48 | <dolphin> | ah ok due power management |
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| 23:49 | <dolphin> | now if it was causing power issues would it be easy to notice |
| 23:50 | <dolphin> | or your saying that it just uses more power due to power not being managed as wel |
| 23:51 | <dolphin> | and lastly does this effect cpu power |
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| 23:51 | <dolphin> | or simply put more money on the electric bill |
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| 23:52 | <dolphin> | sorry to be so detailed |
| 23:52 | <rjsalts> | dolphin: the cpu will just go full tilt instead of having the power management software kicking in and turning things off when it's not in use |
| 23:52 | <rjsalts> | dolphin: etc |
| 23:52 | <dolphin> | that perfect! |
| 23:53 | <dolphin> | in music production power throttling is hated with a passion |
| 23:53 | <dolphin> | alright |
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| 23:54 | <dolphin> | thanks dude now i can rest easy |
| 23:55 | <dolphin> | what is power management software in terms of linux |
| 23:56 | <dolphin> | last question |
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| 23:56 | <dolphin> | otherwise good night good morning or good afternoon |
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