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#debian IRC Logs for 2017-08-26

---Logopened Sat Aug 26 00:00:01 2017
---Daychanged Sat Aug 26 2017
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04:01<user>HELLO
04:01<user>DAFACK
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04:03<cruncher>absolute record.. greeting, swearing and quit... all in 1 second
04:07<magyar>hi, in debian jessie I'm unable to browse public_html directory, I keep getting "AH01630: client denied by server configuration"
04:08<magyar>what gives, it used to work fine before
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04:10<cruncher>magyar, http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.4/upgrading.html#run-time
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04:13<magyar>cruncher: not sure what you mean but this is what I have in the /etc/apache2/mods-available/userdir.conf >>
04:13<magyar>https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/X4n74QDtfy99Ziw9MqUNZA
04:14<cruncher>magyar, are you running fedora?
04:14<magyar>cruncher: not really, I stated in my post jessie (debian)
04:15<magyar>I think I'm in debian channel
04:15<cruncher>magyar, just asked due to your fedora paste...
04:15<magyar>which is becoming like fedora day by day
04:16<magyar>used to be a stable OS
04:17<magyar>cruncher: the only descant paste bin I found is the fedora past :(
04:17<magyar>paste
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04:23<cruncher>magyar, as it doesnt seem to be from updating apcahe, i think you should ask in #httpd on freenode
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05:34<MarkedOne>Hello how to partition disks without installing debian? I only need to partition disk
05:34<MarkedOne>I have debian net install
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05:36<OdyX>MarkedOne: you can use the rescue mode of the installer.
05:36<OdyX>(or any live CD, really)
05:36<MarkedOne>kk i will try
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09:47<amdgoon>what does the two kernel 4.9.x-y numbers indicate when one does uname -a? just curious...
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10:18<digital>where do i go for x11 support?
10:18<digital>ctrl+numpad3 returns something like escape and i want to change it
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10:53<gaffa>digital_; use xmodmap
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10:57<digital_>gaffa, okay. i'd also like to find out where this originates from, but i don't know how. i have searched through some files in /usr/share/X11/xkb but i didn't find anything
10:59<somiaj>amdgoon: 4.9.x-y, .x is the updtream revision of the stable 4.9 branch, the -y is the debian revision (since debian puts patches on top of the upstream kernel)
11:00<somiaj>digital_: how did you find out that ctrl+numpad3 produces something like escape? What do you wnt ctrl+numpad3 to do?
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11:02<amdgoon>thanks somiaj
11:03<digital_>i play ryzom and ctrl+numpad3 has the same effect as escape. this is not related to ryzom though, becuase xev shows that the XLookUpString for ctrl+numpad3 is a not printable character while for example ctrl+numpad9 is "9"
11:04<gaffa>it could be your window manager
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11:05<digital_>somiaj, what i want is that ctrl+numpad3 does not close focused window in ryzom
11:05<somiaj>yea could be the window manager or some software grabing that keybinding.
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11:05<digital_>i grepped through my i3 config, there is no shortcut for ctrl and numpad3
11:05<somiaj>if using xev and you want to remove all other issues, you can run xev as the only program in a xorg session to ensure that some other software doesn't have a keybinding.
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11:05<somiaj>digital_: you on stretch?
11:06<digital_>Debian GNU/Linux buster/sid
11:07<somiaj>well you should be asking for support in #debian-next then, and as for here on stretch ctrl+numpad 3 work just like expected. What you are descibing is some keybinding program reacting to that key combo.
11:07<somiaj>it could be some bug in buster/sid, but I would first start by removing all window managers and additional programs from your xorg session and checking out the key binding there.
11:07<digital_>okay
11:07<somiaj>you could also check out xmodmap, but this doesn't sound like a modifier issue, sounds more like a keybinding issue to me
11:07<digital_>can i start a new xorg session with only xev?
11:08<somiaj>use .xsession and put exec xev as the single line
11:09<somiaj>you can also do this with startx
11:09<somiaj>if using a display manager choose default session to read the .xession file in $HOME
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11:11<digital_>there is no ~/.xsession file
11:11<somiaj>digital_: you could also put exec xterm, then have xterm as your program running in the session and launch xec from there
11:11<somiaj>so create it
11:11<digital_>and startx isn't found either
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11:13<digital_>ah okay
11:13<digital_>thank you, i'll try it and then come back
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11:33<digital_>i failed to run a xorg instance from .xsession
11:34<digital_>i put "exec xterm" in ~/.xsession and relogged, then i had an xterm in the top right corner but i couldn't write anything, it wasn't even focused
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11:47<itd>digital_: What is your goal?
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11:53<digital_>nvm, i was just to stupid.
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11:54<digital_>i started an xorg session with only an xterm and ran xev. ctrl+numpad3 still returns an unprintable byte
11:54<digital_>somiaj, ^^
11:55<digital_>itd: i'm trying to find out why ctrl+numpad3 returns an unprintable byte
11:55<digital_>which has the same effect as escape
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12:01<somiaj>is htis a laptop?
12:02<digital_>yep
12:02<somiaj>what version of debian is this? What kernel?
12:02<somiaj>sometimes laptops do strange things with key combos.
12:02<digital_>yeah
12:02<digital_>i'm not sure what kernel verson i'm using
12:02<somiaj>uname -a
12:03<digital_>Linux tree 4.11.0-1-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.11.6-1 (2017-06-19) x86_64 GNU/Linux
12:03<digital_>right, thanks
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12:05<somiaj>is this debian buster/sid, you should be in debian-next
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12:10<digital_>okay
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14:22<Guest3354>Hey all, I'm looking for advice/docs on what is the cause of some weird package manager behavior. I'm trying to install libsdl2-dev, and when i try to do so thru apt-get, it goes nuts and wants to remove init and friends (this is no good!)
14:22-!-Guest3354 is now known as louis__
14:23<louis__>Using aptitude to try to install the same package gives me a more sane-sounding solution that involves installing some new libs and upgrading a number of core system components (systemd and udev etc) from "now, oldstable" to "testing". I'm pretty savvy with linux, but don't really understand the significance of that. Is that a "safe" operation or is it going to screw up package management for my system?
14:25<louis__>This is not the first time I have had a similar problem, but usually it stems from me screwing around with my package source lists, but in this case I haven't touched any of that. I don't really understand how it's possible for the system to screw itself up when I'm just trying to install stable packages.
14:26<grove>!bat
14:26<dpkg>In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>.
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14:29<louis__>http://paste.debian.net/983135/ is the apt-get proposal and the apt-cache outputs
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14:30<louis__>http://paste.debian.net/983136/ is aptitude's proposed solution. basically i just want to know if that is a safe operation or if it's going to screw my system up. I'd also be happy to understand how it gets screwed up along those lines in the first place...
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14:34<grawity>hold on, why are you trying to install a package from testing if you're on olstable
14:35<grawity>I think that's basically the expected way of going nuts when you're mixing two wildly different versions
14:36<louis__>good question. i don't _want_ to... I want to end up installing https://packages.debian.org/sid/libsdl2-dev (which says it's availible in sid, which is what im running)
14:37<louis__>the install is only like 3 months old
14:38<grawity>at best that's a frankensid
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14:39<louis__>so larger story, is the first time i tried to apt-get install libsdl2-dev, it told me that it depended on libibus-1.0-dev that was not going to be installed, so i manually installed that. i removed it again just now, and am back to getting this response: https://paste.debian.net/983142/
14:40<louis__>(that is, now it no longer suggests a crazy solution, but just says it cannot be installed)
14:41<louis__>what is a frankensid?
14:44<grawity>in your case – half-sid, half-jessie
14:44<grawity>I doubt sid had systemd 215 even three months ago
14:44<louis__>gah. how did i cause that to happen and is there anything i can do about it?
14:45<agaida>frankensid was invented by Mary Shelley in "Frankensid or The modern Prometheus" (1818)
14:46<louis__>short of reinstalling a bride-of-frankensid?
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14:51<louis__>I guess it comes down to the question: Is this ( https://paste.debian.net/983144/ ) a sane solution to this problem?
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14:52<b17>louis__: with sources from ubuntu, jessie, buster and sid sanity might be asking a lot
14:52<b17>why don't you just go ahead and try to run only sid?
14:53<louis__>how did i end up not running only sid in the first place? i haven't touched by apt sources on this install (other than to add steam + chrome, but those shouldn't be affecting packages from the linux ecosystem...)
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14:57<b17>i don't know about ecosystem maybe it's not sid, looks like testing with 'precise' repo isn't that ubuntu?
14:57<grove>You might get better help for problems with testing/unstable in #debian-next
14:58<grove>precise is an ancient ubuntu (12.04 or something like that)
14:58<louis__>that's the name of the valve repo - can't explain that - but there isn't anything but the steam package installed from that so i doubt that's the cause (might be! i don't know)
14:59<louis__>but the thing is i _dont want to_ be running testing/unstable - that's the solution aptitude gives me for trying to install a package that should just be in the darn sid stable repos
15:00<louis__>looking at https://packages.debian.org/sid/libsdl2-dev and https://packages.debian.org/sid/libibus-1.0-dev it seems like i should just be able to install libsdl2-dev and libibus-1.0-dev , but it refuses to
15:00<b17>libsdl2-dev is available for wheezy thru sid
15:01<grove>If I calculated correctly precise was an LTS release (12.04 was), but I think it's only five years ubuntu support their LTS'es, so support would have run out earlier this year
15:01<louis__>according to /etc/os-release i am running "buster/sid"
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15:01<louis__>so i would think that it should just work to install it from the sid repos that are in my apt-get sources...
15:02<b17>ask in #debian-next like grove says, but they might be impatient, it's not the debian way.
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15:03<b17>maybe change all your sources to buster, remove the foreifn stuff and try and fix it that way
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15:08<scootergrisen>When i select "Debian Live with Localisation Support" during live is that suppose to set the keyboard layout to my language?
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15:13<hthoreau>Hi.
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15:14<hthoreau>I'm having this problem that when I close the lid from my laptop and then open it, my screen is stuck in black..
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15:18<somiaj>what video driver are you using?
15:19<somiaj>hthoreau: ^^
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15:20<hthoreau>somiaj: This is the output from lspci -v: http://paste.debian.net/983141/
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15:24<hthoreau>Hm. I don't have xserver-xorg-video-intel installed...
15:25<somiaj>in stertch intel uses the modesetting driver for many cards
15:25<hthoreau>Yeah. Just saw the description. It's not it.
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15:26<somiaj>look at lsmod see what driver is loaded, sometimes video drivers have trouble after a suspsend
15:28<hthoreau>Here: http://paste.debian.net/983150/
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15:28<grawity>I'm late but did someone say "the sid stable repos"
15:29<hthoreau>xD
15:29<hthoreau>somiaj: The i915 is listed in that paste I sent you.
15:29<hthoreau>i915 module*
15:30<blast007>amdgpu is also listed. is it a hybrid amd+intel graphics setup?
15:30<hthoreau>Yes, but I don't believe my Radeon is even being used.
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15:32<hthoreau>blast007: It's a Topaz, not listed as one of the supported chipsets.
15:34<hthoreau>Give me a minute.
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15:43<hthoreau>Back.
15:43<hthoreau>Sorry for that.
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15:44<cruncher>hthoreau, does ctrl+alt+f1 work?
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15:45<hthoreau>I get back to the user selection screen.
15:46<cruncher>so its not black anymore and you can login there?
15:46<hthoreau>Yes, that's it cruncher,
15:46<hthoreau>Which is cool, I mean, if we don't get to fix this suspend problem I can turn at least turn off suspention and leave my laptop at the user selection screen...
15:47<cruncher>hthoreau, so you werent using any D?
15:47<cruncher>*DE
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15:47<hthoreau>cruncher: DE?
15:48<cruncher>Desktop Environment, like gnome, xfce, etc
15:48<hthoreau>Yes, I'm using Gnome 3
15:49<cruncher>not sure if gnome uses light-locker too, but try it. Press ctrl-alt-f1, login, and kill the process light-locker
15:49<cruncher>hthoreau, then switch back to gnome (alt-f7)
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15:50<hthoreau>sudo kill light-locker? How would that address the problem of the computer getting stuck at a black screen upon reopening the lid?
15:50<hthoreau>cruncher: ^
15:50<cruncher>killall light-locker
15:51<cruncher>if the process is not killed, try killall -9 light-locker
15:51<cruncher>hthoreau, becasue light-locker has a bug atm, which does exactly that, black screen after suspend/hib/lock
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15:52<cruncher>so doesnt hurt to test that before anything else
15:52<hthoreau>cruncher: I see, ok, I'll try it.
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15:55<hthoreau>cruncher, just checked and light-locker is not installed.
15:55<cruncher>as i said, i wasnt even sure gnome uses light-locker
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15:56<kok>hi
15:57<kok>how can I install all these packages? termbin.com/02po
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15:59<cruncher>hthoreau, is it a laptop?
16:00<hthoreau>cruncher: Yes.
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16:08<grove>kok: That looks like the list of dependencies of some package. Doesn't apt/apt-get/aptitude do something when you try to install that?
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16:10<kok>can i do that in one line?
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16:15<kok>Hi
16:15<kok>I have debian and xfce as DE.
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16:16<sertic>windy http://sad2li55aegwrkjh.onion/porridge-prankster
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16:22<kok>and on lock screen i dont see the user name...
16:23<kok>i want to see it
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16:31<user_>what am i doing here ?
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16:32<user_>maybe it's a glich
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16:35<blast007>or user_ error
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16:36<rneese>ok where do I go to discuss netowrking issuse wit /etc/networkd/interfaces.d
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16:36<rneese>it seems not to work correctly
16:36<rneese>from how its documented to how it really works is 2 diff things
16:37<rneese>and then using it wifi is broken in it
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16:38<rneese>so is there a specific channel that deals with networking issues and bugs
16:38<rneese>or is just delt with here
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16:41<b17>rneese: if you have a question, just ask, what documentation are you looking at for interfaces.d
16:43<rneese>it was a old page looking for book mark 1 min
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16:43<rneese>https://manpages.debian.org/jessie/ifupdown/interfaces.5.en.html
16:44<rneese>disussed it
16:44<rneese>I put the 1 line source /etc/network/interfaces.d in the interfaces file
16:44<rneese>but it did not work
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16:45<b17>like this? source /etc/network/interfaces.d/*
16:45<rneese>you have to add the auto eth0 and auto wlan0 into interafces file to make it aultoad the interfaces
16:45<rneese>yes
16:45<rneese>but having a major issue
16:45<rneese>loading wifi this way you do not get ssh
16:46<rneese>you can ping out but you can not ssh in
16:47<rneese>we have tested on 6 diff systemd the same on all 6
16:47<rneese>systems
16:48<rneese>not systemd
16:48<rneese>soory
16:48<b17>hmm that's odd, if auto wasn't working then shouldn't ping fail also?
16:48<rneese>also if you have a static route set but not plugged in and you boot the wifi you can not ping
16:49<rneese>I tested and tested before coming here to report the issue
16:49<rneese>I wanted to make shure
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16:50<b17>ifup is quirky sometimes, but pretty reliable it's very old method.
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16:51<b17>are you using any packages that put scripts in the other .d directories?
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16:53<rneese>not that I know of
16:53<b17>maybe systemd has an issue with it did you try looking at journalctl?
16:54<rneese>looked at everything and it gives no errors
16:54<rneese>and the logs show no errors
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16:56<rneese>I wish ssh kept its own log
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16:56<b17>static config, did you try allow-hotplug
16:56<rneese>yes
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16:57<rneese>interfaces
16:57<rneese>source /etc/network/interfaces.d/*
16:58<rneese>allow-hotplug wlan0
16:58<rneese>auto wlan0
16:58<rneese>interfaces.d/wlan0
16:58<rneese>iface wlan0 inet dhcp
16:58<rneese> wpa-ssid "BearCave"
16:58<rneese> wpa-psk "BearCave2017#"
16:58<rneese>not worried
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16:58<rneese>it a test net
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16:59<rneese>and ssh still wont allow inbound
16:59<rneese>I can ssh ou
16:59<rneese>out
16:59<rneese>thou
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17:01<b17>all those .d folders are owned by root:root
17:01<rneese>yes
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17:03<b17>well I'm not up in the ip command, but maybe looking at some of it's output will help you track it down. Sounds buggy.
17:03<rneese>yeah thats why I came here
17:04<rneese>brb doorbell
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17:08<rneese>back
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17:09<kok>help
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17:10<ferrist>awesome https://downloads.yahoo.com/hpset?.cmpg=SEM
17:10<kok>what is that
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17:10<kok>virus?
17:10<kok>ads..
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17:16<amdgoon>reese: you can change logging verbosity of sshd server in its config file and use ssh -vvv command on client side, if you've not tried that
17:17<amdgoon>can you nmap target machine see if port 22 is open, assuming you are using default port?
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17:18<amdgoon>that's about all i know to do totroubleshoot ssh.
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17:21<amdgoon>sorry that was for rneese
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17:26<alejonba0498>bu
17:26<rneese>port 22 is open because I can connect if I plug in the etherne
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17:26<rneese>and I can ssh into it
17:27<rneese>but the min I disconnect the ethernet and try to ssh to the ip of the wifi I cant ssh in
17:27<rneese>but I can ssh out of the unit
17:27<b17>wifi router blocks incoming?
17:27<rneese>no
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17:28<b17>rneese: you said it does work when all config is in interfaces, but not interfaces.d
17:28<rneese>right
17:28<rneese>I will run a 2nd test on it now
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17:32<b17>i've never used interfaces.d but comparing ip settings after each config might narrow down what's what
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17:33<rneese>now I get some odd ip config
17:33<rneese>eth0:avahi Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 4a:d2:62:5f:c1:da
17:33<rneese> inet addr:169.254.10.250 Bcast:169.254.255.255 Mask:255.255.0.0
17:33<rneese> UP BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
17:33<rneese> Interrupt:114
17:33<rneese>I am about to just go blow all these units up
17:34<TobiX>rneese: That is IPv4-autoconfig, done by avahi
17:35<rneese>ok
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17:35<amdgoon>169. number is not good sign
17:35<rneese>nothign is plugged into eth0
17:35<rneese>grr
17:36<amdgoon>is wlan0 getting address?
17:36<rneese>yes
17:36<rneese> inet addr:192.168.1.103 Bcast:192.168.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.0
17:36<rneese>I can ping out but still no ssh in
17:37<TobiX>Sounds more like a firewall problem then a network problem...
17:38<amdgoon>and if you nmap 192.168.1.103 you see port 22? sorry if already answered
17:38<amdgoon>leave eth0 disconnected
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17:40<rneese>loading nmbap on my other arm unit
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17:41<rneese>wow so something is blocking
17:41<rneese>nmap cant get to the ip
17:42<rneese>but its on a basic router at the min
17:42<rneese>but if I nmap on itself
17:42<rneese>it says port 22 is open
17:43<rneese>brb router reset
17:43<amdgoon>And the Machine you are and mapping is in the correct address space? That is 192.168. 1. X I would imagine?
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17:47<rneese>something is wron I can nmap out but I cant nmap in
17:47<rneese>so something on the box is blocking it
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17:50<amdgoon>seems yes, try ssh -vvv 192.168.1.103 from remote box? see what it says
17:51<rneese>I got logged in
17:51<rneese>so its a ssh config issue
17:51<amdgoon>maybe firewall, maybe lack of domainname on 192.168 net too?
17:51<rneese>and its the default ssh config
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17:53<amdgoon>I'm not real great at proper order of steps to help you effectively, just going over some of the dumb things that I've done in the past LOL.
17:53<rneese>https://paste.debian.net/983165/
17:54<rneese>now to figure this one out as it is working fine on ether net on the same network but not wifi
17:54<rneese>makes no sense
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17:57<amdgoon>just ping works on wifi, yes?
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17:57<rneese>I can ping out but not in
17:58<rneese>Starting Nmap 6.47 ( http://nmap.org ) at 2017-08-26 23:57 CEST
17:58<rneese>Note: Host seems down. If it is really up, but blocking our ping probes, try -Pn
17:58<rneese>Nmap done: 1 IP address (0 hosts up) scanned in 0.89 seconds
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17:58<rneese>ping is working
17:59<rneese>PING 192.168.1.103 (192.168.1.103) 56(84) bytes of data.
17:59<rneese>64 bytes from 192.168.1.103: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=335 ms
17:59<rneese>64 bytes from 192.168.1.103: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=356 ms
17:59<rneese>but nmap and ssh no nuless you ssh -vvvv
18:00<amdgoon>is that a "remote" box pinging 103? only one box has that 103 address, not another lurking with same ip#?
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18:00<rneese>yes
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18:05<amdgoon>dsa keys were disabled in sshd4 defaults last year, that is a version thing, nmap should still see box. check that all boxes have a fully qualified domainname, that can give problems if not,
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18:06<rneese>they have hostname they donehave a domain. they are not setup for fqdn
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18:06<rneese>they are all just using ip right now no names
18:08<amdgoon>i just remember fighting wifi problems one time and i'd forgot to tell wifi router the network name, eg basement.net... IIRC that made things go,
18:09<rneese>going to take brain brake go eat dinner
18:09<rneese>the router is not setup for a domain
18:09<rneese>its a very basic router at the min
18:10<rneese>bbl food break
18:11<amdgoon>ok, good luck, im away now too.
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18:15<wakemaster>hey, sorry if this is a long shot but I have a setup virtualization using libvirtd and passing through an NVIDIA 1080. I have the system working with windows flawlessly. The issue is whenever I try to install debian, I copy the windows install virsh settings but debian locks up when selecting the installation mechanism
18:16<wakemaster>I am looking if there is anything special I need to do to pass a cpu through to a debian install
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18:36<rneese__>ok I feel like a id10t
18:36<rneese__>IGMP wa turned off in the router
18:37<rneese__>and it seems for some wifi functions to work correctly you need igmp
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19:38<willy>Hi. I just upgraded my gateway to jessie and squid doesn't work any more. I moved my custom config out of the way, purged the squid package and moved the cache out of the way. Reinstalled squid and it still hangs at startup with the default squid.conf. Any tips? I ran it under strace and I see it bind() to port 3128, but it never calls listen() on that socket. I see the pinger exiting, but I'm a little out of my depth.
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19:40<rneese_>how did you upgrade
19:40<rneese_>and wiw just now moving to jessie
19:41<rneese_>I would have just built a machine set rules and then plug and go
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19:49<willy>i did an apt-get dist-upgrade
19:50<willy>"machine set rules"? I don't understand
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19:50<willy>i've rebooted to the jessie kernel (4.9.30-2+deb9u3)
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19:51<willy>oh, sorry. I got my codenames confused. I upgraded from jessie to stretch.
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20:21<lambi>hello everybudy its my 1st chat in parrot linux
20:21<lambi>can someone teach me
20:22<lambi>somebody theare?
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20:27<wakemaster>hello, is anyone familiar here with installing debian as a guest os in libvirtd? I am running into an issue with passing through a graphic device
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21:01<northlight>lambi I belive it would be best to ask in parrot linux channel.
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22:00<AGAGFB>anyone here?
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22:09<northlight>!question
22:09<northlight>Ask your question and wait a little :)
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22:15<somiaj>n0rthlight: keyword is ask
22:15<n0rthlight>haha
22:15<n0rthlight>Thanks
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22:17<n0rthlight>anybody know that page explaining sudo and graphical tools? jmcnaught linked it to me however I cant find it again.
22:17<n0rthlight>graphical program
22:17<somiaj>maybe start by looking up sudo on the debian wiki
22:17<n0rthlight>I did.
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22:21<n0rthlight>Been looking for 40 minutes.
22:22<somiaj>are you just looking for gksu?
22:22<n0rthlight>I believe it was a explanation of the risk and what and what not to do. I am never sure now.
22:23<n0rthlight>In Ubuntu we used sudo at every sauce. ex: sudo gedt..
22:24<n0rthlight>I am relearning habit here but forgot some basic I read last month.
22:25<somiaj>sudo just won't fully preserve the whole xorg enviroment, but in many cases that works in debian. It is what I do, though I rarely use gui apps as root
22:26<n0rthlight>But for exemple is it safe to go sudo gufw or sudo zenmap?
22:28<sleblanc>n0rthlight, I do not think it is ever unsafe, it is just that on some setups, "sudo <graphical app>" will have issues when the root application tries to draw on the non-root display
22:29<sleblanc>x11 errors and whatnot
22:29<n0rthlight>yeah I saw that append with gedit creating double list ect.
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22:30<n0rthlight>I read it could even lock you out in some senario. Having your password stuck in a bug.
22:30<sleblanc>gksudo will also prompt you graphically for your password
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22:30<sleblanc>yeah, historically, x11 is kinda screwy at locking focus
22:30<n0rthlight>Let me look at the difference for gksudo and sudo
22:31<n0rthlight>But you kinda have to tun zenmap in sudo its the point hehe.
22:31<sleblanc>gksudo tries to do the "right" thing, by forcing focus to its app, so that no other app could snoop on your input while you type your password, but it's just not possible to get it 100% right in X11
22:31<n0rthlight>I see.
22:31<n0rthlight>So same use just different way of doing it
22:32<n0rthlight>Thank you very much sleblanc I feel I understand the issue better. Debian guide can be dry a little explanation wise.
22:32<n0rthlight>and somiaj
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22:33<sleblanc>n0rthlight, you might enjoy the read: https://www.jwz.org/xscreensaver/toolkits.html
22:33<n0rthlight>Going for it thanks.
22:34<n0rthlight>I learn by exemple so its perfect thanks.
22:34<sleblanc>and also, w.r.t. gksudo, it is also screwy in the way it "dims" the screen: i am running a minimalist window manager on two monitors, and when gksudo pops up, only the monitor on which the pop-up window is not located will dim
22:34<n0rthlight>ok.
22:35<sleblanc>so i do not know for sure if it is my WM, my graphics card driver, or something else in my setup causing this
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22:35<sleblanc>(but frankly I do not care)
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22:36<n0rthlight>Indeed.
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22:40<n0rthlight>( Let's suppose that the nature of this bug is something relatively obscure: say that it's something like, if you hold down 5 keys on the keyboard for 10 seconds then drag the middle mouse button, the text entry widget gets a SEGV. (In fact, I'm not making this up: I saw this very bug once, years ago.) )
22:40<n0rthlight>Outch.
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22:54<n0rthlight>sleblanc thanks for the article I am on gnome :P
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23:32<n0rthlight>Should wireshark be run sudo or dumcap?
23:32<leoni>what's wireshark
23:32<n0rthlight>!wireshark
23:32<dpkg>Wireshark (formerly Ethereal) is a cross-platform network protocol analyzer. It allows data to be examined from a live network or from a capture file. To run as a normal user, see /usr/share/doc/wireshark/README.Debian. Console version is packaged as tshark. http://www.wireshark.org/faq.html #wireshark on irc.freenode.net.
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23:33<leoni>wouldn't the correct way of using it be using sudo then?
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23:33<n0rthlight>I feel dumcap is the way to go since it is a graphical tool. but the installation is contradictory.
23:34<n0rthlight>let me post it
23:34<leoni>what do you mean (sorry for my ignorance, im new to linux in general, dunno what's dumcap is but im guessing its some sort of package)
23:34<leoni>what do you need this for anyways?
23:34<n0rthlight>https://paste.debian.net/983190/
23:35<n0rthlight>Its running it with modified privilege with user group or complete sudo.
23:35<leoni>oh i see, use dumcap then
23:36<leoni>if it's not recommended to go as superuser
23:36<n0rthlight>Indeed.
23:36<leoni>hey can i ask you something?
23:37<n0rthlight>Of course.
23:37<leoni>since im kind of new to linux and debian in general (but also very interested in it and programming too)
23:37<leoni>i been using xrandr to set my screen to my native resolution
23:37<leoni>however i'm not able to find a way to set thigns up permanently
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23:38<leoni>and i'm not sure if im even using drivers at all, i do know im not using propietary ones
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23:38<n0rthlight>Are you on Nvidia?
23:38<leoni>amd
23:38<leoni>specifically, radeon
23:39<leoni>i've looked up things on google, and even asked on stackexchange but still nothing
23:39<n0rthlight>Ish I am not the one to help then. Ask you question clearly and one of the old school will help you out ;)
23:39<n0rthlight>!ask
23:39<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
23:39<leoni>hm
23:40<n0rthlight>My appologies I never used amd on Linux :)
23:40<leoni>is there a difference between architectures?
23:40<leoni>too big?
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23:41<n0rthlight>its really a case by case from what I understand. old gfx card I dont think it matter so much.
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23:41<n0rthlight>or older.
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23:41<leoni>i really dont mind setting up xrandr everytime i log into debian honestly
23:42<leoni>but the computer gives some log messages when getting into debian too, and also some odd ones
23:42<leoni>so idk, maybe i'll be able to solve them once i know how to do stuff
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23:42<n0rthlight>I am sure there is a way around it Leoni
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23:42<leoni>why is your name green now
23:42<n0rthlight>I said you name :P
23:42<n0rthlight>Leoni
23:43<leoni>ahh
23:43<leoni>i get it
23:43<n0rthlight>Let me install that thing and I i will check the debian instruction with you
23:43<leoni>n0rthlight
23:44<n0rthlight>give me a secpnd
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23:44<leoni>man i wasted so much time choosing between linux os
23:44<leoni>i was like either ubuntu, debian or fedora
23:44<leoni>but i wanted debian cus
23:44<leoni>its debian
23:44<n0rthlight>you are on Debian strech?
23:44<leoni>yes i am
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23:45<n0rthlight>This is what I found here however it is not for strech yet
23:45<n0rthlight>https://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary
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23:46<coruja>maybe take a look at xorg log first
23:46<leoni>oh i've checked that one before, in fact i thought of switching to jessie because of it, i also checked the one called "AtiHowTo"
23:46<n0rthlight>Coruja if you are able to help him I know nothing of ATI :)
23:46<coruja>and/or system(d) logs
23:47<leoni>can i paste Xorg.0.log?
23:47<coruja>!paste
23:47<dpkg>Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>.
23:47<leoni>aight
23:47<leoni>thanks
23:47<n0rthlight>For pasting on the chanel use
23:47<n0rthlight>https://paste.debian.net/
23:48<leoni>http://paste.debian.net/983191/
23:48<leoni>also which one is the system one?
23:50<coruja>better Xorg.1.log then
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23:58<leoni>hello
23:58<leoni>sorry
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