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#debian IRC Logs for 2017-09-01

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02:05<Noxarivis[m]>whats better on an older pc, LXDE or XFCE?
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02:21<rjsalts>Noxarivis[m]: you could just go with a window manager, and not a desktop environment
02:21<rjsalts>Noxarivis[m]: e.g. openbox/fluxbox/fvwm/etc.
02:22<rjsalts>Noxarivis[m]: as to your question, not sure
02:23<Noxarivis[m]>rjsalts: LXDE is basically Openbox with a panel
02:23<Noxarivis[m]>soooo LXDE then?
02:24<Noxarivis[m]>it should be user friendly tho
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02:26<rjsalts>and a session manager, file manager, etc.
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02:27<rjsalts>I haven't tried LXDE
02:28<Noxarivis[m]>hm
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02:43<grove>User friendliness is very subjective. I have never tried LXDE, but swiched from XFCE to i3 because I found that more friendly
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02:53<Noxarivis[m]>grove: well, think of "a windows user should be able to handle it"
02:54<grove>I haven't used windows in 18-19 years, I have no idea what that means today
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03:00<Noxarivis[m]>well, havnt changed that much
03:00<Noxarivis[m]>start button and all that stuff, same layout,
03:00<Noxarivis[m]>just got fancy and bloated
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03:36<DanieleV[m]>I have a problem with redshift on debian stretch, on a Thinkpad X250
03:36<annadane>DanieleV[m], what's the problem
03:37<DanieleV[m]>soon after the boot the screen start to change its brightness every few seconds, its very annoying... if I turn off and on the redshift applet it works good
03:37<DanieleV[m]>I'm on KDE
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03:43<petn-randall>DanieleV[m]: Does it go back and forth all the time, or what exactly happens?
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03:44<darkknight>anyone up?
03:44<annadane>darkknight, go ahead and ask
03:45<darkknight>i think my box is comprimised really badly
03:45<darkknight>i have two outoing ssh connections outside the network for no reason
03:46<petn-randall>darkknight: So what's your question?
03:46<darkknight>https://pastebin.com/ix5njhfP
03:46<darkknight>is that normal
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03:47<petn-randall>darkknight: I don't see any SSH connections ...
03:47<darkknight>ohh your right im so dumb i keep forgetting 443 is https im so sorry i was in mass panic mode
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03:48<petn-randall>darkknight: Try 'netstat -anp', it'll list the process that established the connection.
03:48<darkknight>whats 9001?
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03:49<NieDzejko>port 9001 can be used for more than one thing, including tor
03:50<itd>darkknight: Depends on your/their setup. Try netstat.
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03:53<darkknight>Thank you guys so much sorry for being so dumb
03:53<darkknight>would backdoors use 443 and 80 ?
03:54<darkknight>grep is a godsend for this command :)
03:55<itd>darkknight: Yes, why not.
03:56<darkknight>itd: so is it normal to have these automatically connected @ boot
03:56<itd>darkknight: Depends on the services you use.
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03:59<darkknight>thanks guys
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04:00<DanieleV[m]> > DanieleV[m]: Does it go back and forth all the time, or what exactly happens?
04:00<DanieleV[m]>petn-randall: yes, until I turn it opff and back on, then it works normally
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07:27<Noxarivis[m]>havnt found any bugs in debian yet
07:29<Noxarivis[m]>who is responsible for deciding what software is included per default in debian?
07:30<itd>Noxarivis[m]: What do you mean by "included per default"?
07:31<Noxarivis[m]>well, for example that deluge is included in the LXDE software selection but not in MATE
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07:33<dboles>perhaps the maintainers of those desktop environments
07:34<dboles>is most likely. then maybe distro packagers, if they have reasons to want to add/remove things
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07:37<Noxarivis[m]>ok
07:37<itd>Noxarivis[m]: since "lxde" recommends "deluge" I second that :)
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07:38<Noxarivis[m]>i think its strange that MATE is not comeing with a torrent downloader but every other DE on the install disk
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07:50<pron>Noxarivis[m] | havnt found any bugs in debian yet
07:50<pron>there are no bugs in debian'1
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07:51<Noxarivis[m]>it seems so
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07:51<pron>i am telling you!
07:51<pron>using it for 10 years
07:51<pron>ni bugs
07:51<pron>no bugs*
07:52<dboles>yeah, the bug-tracking system is actually just a recreational text adventure game
07:53<pron>hh
07:53<pron>it sjust pplmake them up czuse there are no real bugs
07:54<pron>i can report some bug if someone wants to add it to bugtracker :{
07:54<pron>well it is not realy a bug since debiandoesnt have any
07:54<pron>its more like suggestion , quality of life improvemnt
07:54<pron>or i can make a quizz
07:55<pron>wich text editor visudo gona invoke
07:55<pron>vi, cuase name suggests so , random nano for completely no reason
07:56*pron winks
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08:00<antifa>is it possible to use dnsmasq with my wlan interface, so every dns query over this interface just results in a fixed ip adress?... kind of a captive portal...
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08:06<irl>since installing graphics drivers (nvidia legacy) my desktop seems to reboot every night
08:06<irl>if there's a kernel issue that decides it can't recover and it reboots, would it write something out to a log file?
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08:07<irl>when it reboots, it does have to recover the filesystem from the journal, so it's definitely not a nice reboot it's doing
08:08<irl>i also wonder if maybe it's a power issue as it seems to be happening in the same window of time every day
08:08<irl>(don't know if it's at exactly the same time every day though)
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09:02<itd>antifa: https://serverfault.com/a/351614
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09:04<itd>antifa: ... for the fixed IP. To configure dnsmasq to only listen on that interface use "interface=".
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09:06<drizzt>??
09:06<grove>!ask
09:06<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
09:06<itd>irl: Yes. You should be able to see the log of the last boot with "journalctl -k -b -1".
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09:07<irl>itd: it's not the boot i'm interested in, it's the crash
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09:07<itd>irl: Which should be the last thing in that log, would it not?
09:08<irl>the crash happens causing the reboot, not crashing as a result of the reboot
09:09<irl>itd: Specifying boot ID or boot offset has no effect, no persistent journal was found.
09:12<itd>irl: /usr/share/doc/systemd/README.Debian.gz explains how to enable a persistent journal.
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09:14<irl>itd: ok, i've done that, will have to wait for it to crash again now
09:14<irl>thanks
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09:17<itd>irl: No problem. (Consider testing that it works as expected.) :)
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11:01<mazze>Hi! I'm about to set up my new private Mail server. It has an encrypted root filesystem and is headless. I want it to be able to boot (e. g. after power loss) either without intervention, or myself logging in and giving the decryption passphrase from remote. I read the docs for dropbear-initramfs, but it is hardcoded to not allow logins with passwords; however, I'd like to be able to remotely let the server boot just with simple standard equipment (like
11:01<mazze>... without the need to carry a private key around.
11:02<mazze>Any suggestions?
11:03<ToBeFree>My naive hammer approach would be to remove the encryption
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11:03<cruncher>mazze, any solution without intervention would nullify the reason to encrypt it
11:04<ToBeFree>If it needs to boot without intervention, the password will be saved in clear text somewhere anyway
11:04<ToBeFree>So just remove your false impression of security
11:04<cruncher>or even not in clear text but a key, its still there
11:04<ToBeFree>Anyway, there will be something an attacker can use as well
11:04<cruncher>yes, whatever it is
11:04<mazze>cruncher I thought about the initramfs getting the key via IP from a different system that only accepts requests from that MAC. But I understand that it is not perfect.
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11:05<ToBeFree>... still the encryption suddenly has no effect
11:05<ToBeFree>:)
11:05<mazze>So, back to the idea that I need to personally type in the passphrase.
11:06<mazze>[One thing encryption would still do for me: When my disk crashes, I can safely give it away after deleting the key]
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11:06<cruncher>i wouldnt say "safely" :)
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11:06<mazze>Would it be wise (from a administrative standpoint) to directly edit the initramfs-script included in the dropbear-initramfs package to enable password login?
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11:09<Blacker47>mazze, if you don't do encryption for keep data away from a "IRL-intruder" but just to keep plaintext away from drive, then you can use keyfile on usb-flashpen that is plugin (and on crypttab etc.)
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11:16<mazze>Blacker47 Thanks for the hint, I understand. This might however not cater for theft of the machine vs. a remote key. But I'll think about it.
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12:00<nuovolnx>Sorry, I would like to buy this notebook: HP 255 G5. Is it 100% compatible with debian without having to install any specific drivers?
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12:03<dboles>it looks like there are plenty of forum discussions about that model and debian out there
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12:04<nuovolnx>dboles, what do you suggest me?
12:05<dboles>sorry, i'm not going to read those discussions and make your decision for you
12:06<nuovolnx>dboles, could you gime the url of that discussion?
12:06<dboles>i just googled for debian hp 255 g5 and there seem to be a good number of results, which a quick read over might give you an idea of how things are
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12:07<dboles>of course, stretch just came out, so it's possibly better now
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12:17*mnuhmnuh stretch best Linux & Debian ever.
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12:44<tda>I need to store a set of similar directories as efficiently as possible. Most of the files and content will be the same, so I don't want to store multiple copies of the same thing on the disk. Is there any way to get that kind of deduplication on debian without zfs?
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12:51<cascardo>tda: jdupes -L is an option
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12:58<tda>cascardo: no, I don't want to delete the files, i want to store them as efficiently as possible
12:59<cascardo>tda: jdupes -L would hardlink them, not delete them
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13:06<tda>I'm not sure how hard links would even work at all for this. Once the directory the snapshots are linked against gets updated, the snapshots are trashed since they all point to the same file.
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13:11<cascardo>tda: the other option would be btrfs deduplication, but not sure how that works exactly
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13:16<tda>cascardo: not sure, but it looks like the same type of dedup as zfs
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13:17<tda>i'll try on zfs first since i already have it
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13:51<Noxarivis[m]>how is the relation between lxqt and lxde, they now both coexist.
13:51<Noxarivis[m]>will lxde be droped some time?
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13:53<dboles>yes, as e.g. the wikipedia page clearly states
13:53<dboles>(which was cited in 2013, but presumably is still the plan)
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14:26<dixic__>Hi everyone.
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14:26<Noxarivis[m]>hi
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15:56<b17>cannot find an initscript or service file for hdparm, how to restart it?
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15:58<b17>guessing just run the /sbin/hdparm again
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16:30<hiq[m]>any suggestion on a good command line tool to remove duplicated files?
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16:31<l0rd>Hi folks, any software like remmina for kde plasma?
16:31<l0rd>ps: krdc sucks!
16:33<hiq[m]>l0rd: I haven't used this kind of tools in while, but the most popular was vnc a few years ago
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16:36<l0rd>hiq[m]: I need something like remmina, for administrative windows machines through rdp...
16:36<l0rd>hiq[m]: manage windows machines*
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16:38<hiq[m]>ok, I never had to use this protocol, but you can always take a look there: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remote_Desktop_Protocol#Non-Microsoft_implementations
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17:05<b17>wow, no way to restart hdparm with it's default /etc/hdparm.conf that's a trip
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17:10<b17>best i can figure is do a for in /dev/sd[] thing with /lib/udev/hdparm script?
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17:19<b17>ahhhh, or restart udev, sheesh why so complicated...
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17:25<Doflamingo_7>hi
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17:32<b17>ok sorry restart udev doesn't restart hdparm either
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17:45<xorrox>Looking in the kernel config file I see there is a module CONFIG_DRM_AMDGPU=m. Nice, but doing a modprobe amdgpu does nana. Is there some other name for that module?
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17:47<xorrox>ofc I could just recompile that kernel and not use a module but it would seem there is no reason for that.
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17:50<xorrox>$ ls -R /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/ |grep -i amdgpu .. seems to fork out amdgpu. Funny I cant load it?
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17:51<b17>xorrox: doesn't match your hardware? i found it in .../kernel/drivers/gpu/drm/amd/amdgpu
17:52<montyboy>xorrox: Is it blacklisted?
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17:55<xorrox>b17 no not at the moment. Just making sure that amd stuff is really there. I seem to have found it too. Guess I just need to do insmod and poof its done. I no longer hate AMD =)
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17:56<xorrox>Is this for real? I mean from what I am reading the amdgpu is working perfectly with AMDs newest stuff on benchmarks?
17:57<b17>xorrox: they should make firmware for their older boards open once they abandon them
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17:58<xorrox>b17 would be nice but I don't think they will? I guess the recent orgy of buying GPUs for mining is (almost always on GNU/Linux) is the reason for this
18:00<xorrox>Just asking but is Nvidia doing this too? Are there open source drivers for there there newest stuff?
18:01<mnuhmnuh>xorrox: firmware-amd-graphics (apt-file search amdgpu).
18:01<xorrox>mnuhmnuh, yeah been doing that and also looking at the git code.
18:02<b17>never used nvidia, but think crippling older products to force hardware upgrades is a bad idea
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18:08<xorrox>wth "Vega On Linux: High-Performance GPUs & Open-Source No Longer An Oxymoron" https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=rx-vega-linux1&num=1
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18:10<xorrox>b17 I really do care much for graphics since everything I do is in QEMU. Thing is I have ported spice server 13.3 into Debian and compiled QEMU to pass OpenGL into my VMs so I guess I need a host GPU now...
18:11<xorrox>but no way in hell am I going to install say a 200MB blob of ... I don't know what into my host.
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18:13<b17>xorrox: to me it's not just the blob, it's paying $400 for a card that sucks three years later. But i love older radeon boards, they reallt are great.
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18:14<b17>i pick them up for $30-$40 when i find them online
18:14<xorrox>b17, totally agree with you on that. I use to be a OpenBSD dev and ... well need I say the rest. The older the better =D Kinda a thing with me
18:15<xorrox>I still fart around with OBSD but I am a lot more pragmatic today.
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18:18<b17>i've never had a retail board i just do 3+ yr old stuff it's better than used car, depreciation
18:19<b17>but yeah i have read that stretch has support for a lot of new stuff
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18:23<b17>wow that articl of your says $499 not $300 that's pretty strong
18:23<xorrox>b17 seems the amdgpu will go back to HD 7000 stuff. If phoronix it to be believed the preformance is even better then the closed source blobs?
18:24<xorrox>b17 that card is there new bad ass card from what I understand. Seems a lot of miners are using them
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18:26<b17>xorrox: if you get one you should write a wiki that sounds pretty awesome
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18:30<xorrox>b17 might just do that. Can even post a patch for ppl that want OpenGL in their VMs... heck I can do that now.
18:30<xorrox>There posted http://paste.debian.net/984092/
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18:40<xorrox>b17 Thats a patch I made for QEMU. ofc you have to hook in spice server 13.3 into your build env. I like pbuilder. But yeah Ill write a wiki in the near feature on getting virgl/opengl working in QEMU using that card...if everything I need is in main.
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18:41<b17>xorrox: comment says that board avg 322 watts and 75c you need to move into in a walk in coller
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18:44<xorrox>b17 The performance to watt seems really good though. Jezz, how powerful is that thing!? https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=rx-vega-linux1&num=8
18:46<xorrox>b17 truth be told I don't even need close to that kind of power. I am not a gamer.
18:47<b17>xorrox: yeh but you don't have to be a astronaut to like rockets
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18:48<xorrox>b17 unexpected part is that the drivers are open source. WOW
18:49<b17>well open source will probably speed up the fine tuning that's a good idea
18:50<b17>there's at least 5 guys running linux that can afford one i bet
18:51<xorrox>b17 this is the reason why I would think that AMD went open source https://www.cnbc.com/2017/07/26/wall-street-stunned-over-amds-cryptocurrency-mining-demand.html
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18:52<xorrox>People are not buying one GPU like on a normal PC. They buy 20+ and run them on GNU/Linux
18:52<b17>ah, you think an amdgpu is worth bitcoin*.10 yeah i heard some things lately
18:53<xorrox>lol not bitcoin. That time is way past but on the other zillion new coins out there.
18:53<b17>i saw an interesting show about how hard it is to keep up with mining because the return is always falling
18:54<b17>by the time you get the hardware up it's too slow
18:54<xorrox>I was luky I got involved with that stuff back in 2013. Paid 12 USD for a coin. Then I mined on a BFL ASIC for a while
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18:55<xorrox>Just wish I had bought more then 2 BTC at the time!
18:55<b17>xorrox: yeh i remember when a 1/10 gold coin was $35 too should have filled up the pickup truck
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18:58<xorrox>heh, read this and LOL. This guy bought some pizza for 10,000 BTC. Here is is asking somebody to sell him two pizzas for what would not be worth 47 million USD
18:58<xorrox>https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=137.0
18:59<b17>might have heard that one, was that the first transaction?
18:59<xorrox>No not the first but the first to buy a real product.
19:00<xorrox>at the time 10000 BTC was worth about 41 USD
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19:01<xorrox>It is about to hit 5000 USD for one stinky little BTC now.
19:01<b17>yeh, that's ten amdgpu vegavulkan rx whatchamacallits
19:03<xorrox>Poor guy. Think if you spent close to 50 million USD on two pizzas.
19:03<b17>or 3 oz of gold, or about 242? pizzas
19:03<xorrox>heh yeah
19:04<xorrox>Well I gotta hit the sack. Have a good one!
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19:04<b17>very interesting thanks!
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19:13<b17>sorry for the off-topic guys but thanks
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19:44<mnuhmnuh>GrubEFINotLoading: or splain details more/better. :-)
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20:28<mormon420>gentoo wiki has info on creating one from scratch aren
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20:33<aren>thanks... would that be the most efficient way of creating the them?
20:33<aren>I ask since something like mkinitcpio from arch can do what I need.
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20:37<mormon420>it's easy to make one without the use of scripts; just make a directory with all the necessary files and run: find -depth | cpio -i | gzip > initrd.img
20:38<mormon420>"easy" in that it may take a bit more time since youre doing it yourself, but it's certainly doable
20:39<aren>How will that do with kernel upgrades?
20:39<mormon420>you'll have to manually update
20:39<mormon420>if you want you can always edit the debian mkinit scripts
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20:43<aren>I don't want to manually update it after every upgrade, I am considering dracut.
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20:54<blast007>aren: Taken a look at /etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf ?
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21:06<aren>Can I get more advanced than changing MODULES=dep?
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21:10<blast007>aren: says there's a 'list' option as well, but you'd have to specify what modules you want. see 'man initramfs.conf'
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21:15<aren>Thanks blast007 I know enough to read the man page but am stupid enough to not do just that.
21:17<annadane>was going to suggest the man page but i did "man initramfs" and came up with nothing :P
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22:35<sleser>hi
22:35<sleser>is there an turntable app in debian
22:35<sleser>any names i can try
22:35<sleser>few will be helpful
22:35<sleser>gui
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