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#debian IRC Logs for 2017-09-03

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00:27<Ionic>can I do a minbase installation from di?
00:28<mnuhmnuh>minbase?
00:29<Ionic>yes, that's a debootstrap variant
00:29<Ionic>I'm trying to get such a system setup from the netinstall image that naturally uses d-i
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00:43<Ionic>guess deselecting everything might do the trick
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02:26<HornyBondage>help me! i think a folder got corrupted
02:27<HornyBondage>per advice from an internet forum, i moved my homework to /dev/null as this was what i was told was automatically cloud backupped
02:27<HornyBondage>and now i need to get it back so i do ls /dev/null and its not there
02:28<HornyBondage>.wiki
02:28<HornyBondage>!wiki
02:28<HornyBondage>!wiki gnaa
02:28<HornyBondage>!wiki the gnaa
02:28<HornyBondage>!wikipedia gnaa
02:28<HornyBondage>.wiki gnaa
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02:33<HornyBondage>gnaa
02:33<HornyBondage>i <3 the !gnaa
02:33<HornyBondage>! gnaa
02:33<dpkg>somebody said gnaa was a bunch of known #debian trolls. If anyone from the gnaa shows up, please invoke !ops
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02:43<grove>HornyBondage: You've been tricked. Search for /dev/null to find out what it is and go somewhere else to cry and think about the sanity of following advice from random internet forums
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02:45<grove>!ops HornyBondage said "i <3 the !gnaa"
02:45<dpkg>Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: grove complains about: HornyBondage said "i <3 the !gnaa"
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02:46<HornyBondage>grove im not fooled
02:46<HornyBondage>i was trolling lol
02:46<HornyBondage>!ops HAIL THE GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA (GNAA)
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02:47<dpkg>Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: hornybondage complains about: HAIL THE GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA (GNAA)
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02:48<grove>If possible that spambot should be fixed so it doesn't kill dpkg
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02:53<grove>Who has the power to bring dpkg back?
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03:44<iKarith>Possibly only SLIGHTLY less spammy than the troll, has the general clusterf##k regarding NV graphics cards and the Linux framebuffer improved in the past few years?
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03:53<ntinos>I have a laptop with NV; works fine even with nouveau drivers
03:53<ntinos>what issues you had?
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04:13<iKarith>ntinos: with nouveau, hard PCI bus locks. ;)
04:14<iKarith>ntinos: with the NV driver, it was just hard to get the thing to cooperate with the kernel using a framebuffer mode. You had to leave it in VGA modes with 8x16 fonts.
04:16<iKarith>My system is 100% EFI ...
04:16<iKarith>Back in 2015 or so, it was said, "One does not simply install nvidia's Linux drivers on a UEFI system!"
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05:16<mtc>Does blocking outgoing connections to ports 25, 465, and 587 seem like a reasonable spam prevention technique? Got a VPS host doing this and it seems to me blocking outgoing connections would have no effect whatsoever.
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05:23<ntinos>only reason to block outgoing connections is in case you get unwanted software on your system
05:23<cruncher>mtc, well, blocking those ports for outgoing would mean the host itself is the spammer
05:23<mtc>Pretty much what I was thinking.
05:23<wojt>Hello, I have a problem with APT. I first installed GNOME software, then uninstalled it and later installed and configured unattended upgrades. I wasn't able to get packages from contrib and non-free repository so I switched mirror so it caused failure of trusted.gpg. I renamed it to trusted.gpg.bak and switched back to original debian repo, which caused 400 undetermined error and "repo doesn't contain Release file"
05:24<mtc>I'm not running a mail server. The customer wants their web based software to be able to do mail.
05:24<mtc>I'm in charge of both the VPS and the (authenticated) email accounts so I don't really get what the VPS host is trying to prevent.
05:24<cruncher>mix my statement with ntinos
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05:25<cruncher>you/they want to prevent something from going out, so the "problem" is at the host itself
05:25<cruncher>(whatever the reason might be)
05:25<mtc>Yeah.
05:25<ntinos>that is a problem out of your hand then
05:25<mtc>They claim it's to prevent their IPs from getting blacklisted, fair enough.
05:25<mtc>But if the email is going through Gmail or whatever that's not gonna happen.
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05:26<mtc>Not gonna rehome if they're gonna charge me this 2 EUR fee. I'll just take the loss. Not gonna make the customer pay it either.
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05:30<wojt>I have a problem with APT. I first installed GNOME software, then purged it as it didn't work anyway and later installed and configured unattended upgrades. I wasn't able to get packages from contrib and non-free repository so I switched mirror so it caused failure of trusted.gpg. I renamed it to trusted.gpg.bak and switched back to original debian repo, which caused 400 undetermined error and "repo doesn't contain Release file"
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05:36<grummund>Which pdf readers do people prefer? i have always used Okula, but lately it seems very sloooow to render.
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05:39<ntinos>zathura is light and uses a modular system allowing it to open other files as well
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05:44<grummund>looks good
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06:03<yutayuta>test
06:03<yutayuta>testok
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06:07<yuta>test
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06:07<dboles>your tests are working, now please stop
06:08<yuta>ok ty dboles :)
06:08<dboles>if there's a question people can help with, then just ask!
06:08<dboles>!ask
06:09<dboles>huh, the bot is down
06:09<yuta>lol but ok :)
06:09<yuta>I got it Thanks
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06:29<jelly>dselect: ping
06:29<dselect>Sorry jelly, you're not online.
06:30<jelly>^^ has a copy of dpkg's factoids
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06:34<Nemoder>how well does it support multiarch factoids?
06:38<dboles>dselect: ask
06:38<dselect>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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06:38<itd>Nemoder: /msg dselect listvalues multi*arch ?
06:38<dboles>oh yeah
06:38<dboles>dpkg: what is the deal with you
06:38<dboles>yeah, that's what i thought
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06:44<yuta>!ask
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06:44<itd>dselect: tell yuta about selftell
06:45<itd>yuta: dpkg (the bot that listens to !<cmd>) is offline. Please "/msg dselect <cmd>".
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06:48<mnuhmnuh>selftell says don't use !tell on debian; abusive?
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07:05<yuta>tyty itd no problem now
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07:11<alvaro>como se instalan drivers de windows 7 en linux?
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07:12<itd>dselect: es
07:12<dselect>Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
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07:13<itd>alvaro: Which driver do you need exactly?
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07:40<wojt>Hello, I have problem with package management. I installed debian literally 15 minutes ago and added contrib and non-free sources. However I'm unable to use them even if apt finds non-free repos during apt update
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07:43<Nemoder>what are you trying to install?
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09:50<Fa1th>moin moin
09:50<Fa1th>do i need all three dvd to use debian or only one
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09:51<dboles>you need whichever dvds have the packages you want :P
09:52<dboles>the 1st one should have everything needed for a base system, and the progressively rarer packages get put onto the others
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10:00<mnuhmnuh>full install likes to have net connectivity for newest or missing off dvd-1
10:01<mnuhmnuh>cd-1?
10:01<Fa1th>and another question
10:02<Fa1th>how likely is it that there still might be malware on a hdd which i did dd if=/dev/zero of=/path/to/drive bs=1M conv=fdatasync status=progress
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10:08<dboles>by my understanding, you're only in the clear for the partition(s) you've erased, but not other partitions or BIOS/UEFI boot sectors, tables, etc.
10:09<dboles>but then if you know the malware was only on that partition, it should be ok
10:10<blast007>Fa1th: was /path/to/drive pointing at a partition like /dev/sda1, or to the device itself like /dev/sda ?
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10:12<Fa1th>to the device
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10:14<Fa1th>I did fdisk -l
10:14<Fa1th>and then found the 500 gb drive
10:14<Fa1th>Disk /dev/sda: 500.1 GB, 500107862016 bytes smth like this
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10:21<stripe>hi all, just upgraded to stretch (i3 desktop, hdmi monitor) display times out, have tried "xset s off
10:22<stripe>" in .xinitrc, no joy, any ideas? thanks
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10:32<drebs>stripe, do you have xscreensaver running?
10:33<stripe>drebs dont think so will check
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10:36<prithvi>hey
10:36<Niel0>'-'
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10:36<prithvi>where are you from?
10:36<Niel0>brazil
10:37<prithvi>whats your profession>
10:38<Niel0>programmer
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10:38<prithvi>nice
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10:38<Niel0>and you?
10:38<blast007>!chat
10:38<dpkg>This is not a chat channel, this is a Debian user support channel. Unless you have a Debian support question, please chat elsewhere, like #debian-offtopic, or #moocows on irc.oftc.net or ##chat on irc.freenode.net.
10:38<mnuhmnuh>stripe: check power saving auto sleep in system config tools, display settings.
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10:42<stripe>mnuhmnuh: thanks but i just have the debian base with i3, xorg, and compton, so trying to find the right config to prevent the system from going into "powersaver" mode
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10:49<mnuhmnuh>stripe: i have mate's power management gui.
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10:58<likcoras>stripe: what about dpms?
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10:59<stripe>likcoras: just edited "/etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc" so going for reboot fingers crossed cheers
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11:04<rustys>QQ how often does youtube-dl get updated in stretch? Current version is from July 18th. And I need a fix that came out 2 days ago.
11:05<rustys>If it is just a week or 2 I can wait otherwise thinking I should just build it myself. I generally dont care about running the latest outside of this situation though.
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11:07<mnuhmnuh>rustys: other user in here gets upstream's most recent, runs it instead of Debian's .deb
11:07<mnuhmnuh>youtube-dl
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11:10<rustys>Might be what I have to do. Would rather not though. As long as it reachs stable eventually I am fine with waiting.
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11:45<lowendcomputers>Did the minimum ram requirement change from jessie to stretch? In virtualbox I can start up debian network installer with only 128 MB ram. Can't do that in stretch and buster.
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11:48<lowendcomputers>to clarify, jessie installs fine with 128 MB Ram. Stretch and Buster ends in a kernel panic.
11:49<themill>https://www.debian.org/releases/stretch/amd64/ch02s05.html.en
11:49<lowendcomputers>big thanks themill !
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14:45<Guest3901>Hello. Can someone recommend a program that does the same thing as "Disks". Ie mounts, unmounts, formats etc?
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14:49<annadane>hmm, gparted...? not sure if it has mounts/unmounts
14:49<Guest3901>thanks. i will looksee
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14:51<annadane>that's of course gui oriented, i'm sure there's terminal programs
14:52<Guest3901>Im a new windows refugee, so have apreference for gui
14:53<annadane>https://gparted.org/display-doc.php?name=help-manual#gparted-mount-partition seems to indicate it can indeed do that
14:53<Guest3901>I see it does have a dismount
14:54<Guest3901>Thanks for link.
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14:56<ola>hey
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14:57<annadane>Guest3901, in general as an introduction to paritions, be careful what you do with what partition; /dev/sdc is not always the same, it depends on the order you mounted things and probably other factors
14:57<annadane>always know what you're doing before performing actions
14:57<Guest3901>Thanks. Im using throwaway disk... Not that I would actually throw them
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14:58<Guest3901>Im trying to track down why my debian installations lose their ability to boot
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14:58<annadane>ah, well, that's possibly something we can help you with, if you wanted help
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14:59<Guest3901>Thanks. I have just restarted t a new installation. I changed some settings in the bios, and had a completely different installation experience...
14:59<mnuhmnuh>Guest3901: can you find anything curious in jornalctl logging?
15:00<Guest3901>Um no. It was unbootable. So I threw it
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15:01<Guest3901>ie. Reformatted. This is the third time. I am almost convinced it has to do with uefi settings
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15:05<Guest3901>I have been using Macrium on a USB to make a partition copy, then restore. It worked fine for a while, then bang, it wouldnt boot. I May have mixed up partitions, but until I know for sure, am trying to repeat
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15:08<mdx0>Hi, I'm at the moment busy with a backup. I use rsync -vaP --delete-after /path/foo/ path/foo/ .....I formated a 4TB external hdd with: sudo mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdb1. I tried to backup the data to the ext. hdd. But it broke up with an error code 30: I'm alone here and nobody else can help me. somehow can help me out, Please?
15:11<mdx0>i.e. mostly an similar error comes, like this: *** Skipping any contents from this failed directory ***
15:11<mdx0>rsync: recv_generator: mkdir "/media/thunderbolt/c2a0a77c-834b-44c1-8809-d0f094a04c11/Dmg001/whiskeycar" failed: Read-only file system (30)
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15:12<mdx0>rsync: recv_generator: mkdir "/media/thunderbolt/c2a0a77c-834b-44c1-8809-d0f094a04c11/Dmg001/Öffentlich" failed: Read-only file system (30)
15:12<mdx0>*** Skipping any contents from this failed directory ***
15:12<mdx0>rsync error: error in file IO (code 11) at receiver.c(393) [receiver=3.1.1]
15:15<itd>mdx0: We get it.
15:15<mdx0>YO! would you help?
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15:16<itd>mdx0: I would, if I could. ;)
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15:17<b17>mdx0: "Read-only file system" is pretty clear explanation of the error?
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15:18<mdx0>I'm totally overextend.
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15:19<mdx0>b17, do I have to mount the external hdd with read authority?
15:19<itd>mdx0: "mount | grep sdb1" - which does that contain "rw" or "ro"?
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15:21<itd>mdx0: "Read-only" means "You are allowed to read from it, but not to write to it."
15:21<mdx0>yes, that is known but not clear
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15:23<mdx0>I typed into the console mount | grep sdb1 .... and it quits without an error....do I now can continue the rsync command?
15:23<mdx0>again?
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15:25<b17>findmnt /dev/sdb1
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15:26<mdx0>oh no please not the fstab stuff
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15:27<mdx0>b17, mount to: mnt?
15:27<b17>? thought yo already mount it
15:28<itd>mdx0: If your external harddisk was mounted as "/dev/sdb1" then "mount | grep sdb1" should return a line that describes how that disk is mounted. But it didn't.
15:28<mdx0>/dev/sdc1 on /media/thunderbolt/c2a0a77c-834b-44c1-8809-d0f094a04c11 type ext4 (rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,stripe=8191,data=ordered,uhelper=udisks2)
15:28<mdx0>mount gives out: see below
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15:36<mdx0>I formated it again. it is mounted than: mount | grep sdc1
15:36<mdx0>/dev/sdc1 on /media/thunderbolt/bb1047bf-bff5-46bc-bdb6-a4308e6f7c8e type ext4 (rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,stripe=8191,data=ordered,uhelper=udisks2)
15:36<mdx0>thunderbolt@brixton:/media/thunderbolt/c2a0a77c-834b-44c1-8809-d0f094a04c11$
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15:37<mdx0>I guess I have to mount it with read and write rights? and in an directory under /mnt or /media?
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15:38<itd>mdx0: No, it should be fine like this.
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15:39<mdx0>I tried findmnt
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15:40<cruncher>mdx0, you said it started fine, then somewhen got that error? or it didnt copy anythign at all and you got directly that error?
15:41<mdx0>itd, thanks , but why rsync broken up?
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15:41<mdx0>I get between backup that error
15:42<cruncher>mdx0, my guess is there was some i/o error, and it did remount as ro
15:42<cruncher>did you check the logs?
15:42<mdx0>no, how?
15:42<cruncher>dmesg
15:42<mdx0>less /var/log/syslog?
15:42<cruncher>yeah, good to
15:42<cruncher>too
15:43<mdx0>wait I try
15:44<mdx0>[ 8588.873608] wlan1: associated
15:44<mdx0>[ 8598.096834] EXT4-fs (sdc1): recovery complete
15:44<mdx0>[ 8598.117615] EXT4-fs (sdc1): mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. Opts: (null)
15:44<mdx0>?
15:44<cruncher>that is the last one, after you said you will moutn it as sdc
15:44<cruncher>before you had it as sdb
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15:45<mdx0>I formated the hdd again, and before it was sdb and after formating it is sdc...
15:46<cruncher>yes, but look for the error when it happened as sdb
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15:46<mdx0>ah, here comes in dmesg some ....
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15:47<mdx0>[ 5227.488253] EXT4-fs warning (device sdb1): dx_probe:742: inode #117468690: lblock 0: comm rsync: error -5 reading directory block
15:47<mdx0>[ 5227.488274] EXT4-fs warning (device sdb1): dx_probe:742: inode #117468690: lblock 0: comm rsync: error -5 reading directory block
15:47<mdx0>[ 5227.488293] EXT4-fs warning (device sdb1): dx_probe:742: inode #117468690: lblock 0: comm rsync: error -5 reading directory block
15:47<mdx0>[ 5227.488314] EXT4-fs warning (device sdb1): dx_probe:742: inode #117468690: lblock 0: comm rsync: error -5 reading directory block
15:47<mdx0>[ 5227.488976] EXT4-fs error (device sdb1): ext4_find_entry:1463: inode #117440513: comm rsync: reading directory lblock 0
15:47<mdx0>[ 5227.489009] EXT4-fs error (device sdb1): ext4_find_entry:1463: inode #117440513: comm rsync: reading directory lblock 0
15:47<itd>dpkg: paste
15:47<dpkg>Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>.
15:47<mdx0>[ 5768.922065] EXT4-fs error (device sdb1): ext4_find_entry:1463: inode #117440513: comm rsync
15:47<cruncher>dont spam
15:47<mdx0>sorry
15:47<mdx0>I wont do it again
15:49<cruncher>mdx0, first of all do a fsck
15:49<mdx0>I have to find the command to put the dmesg out...... :-(
15:49<cruncher>what is it, usb or thunderbolt?
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15:52<mdx0>fsck, says: is mounted as /dev/sda1 but fsck also says abort
15:52<mdx0>but this is my system
15:52<cruncher>mdx0, umount first (thought you knew that)
15:53<mdx0>cruncher, usb
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15:54<mdx0>I umounted it
15:55<mdx0>It's hard when you have to work, like spider jerusamlem from the wc bcz you havent enough place in your room to work?
15:55<mdx0>you should learn and read handbooks
15:56<mdx0>but you can't bcz you havent enough place
15:56<mdx0>when
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15:56<mdx0>okay, what should I do?
15:57<b17>relax
15:58<mdx0>maybe, we can begin from beginning.....I formated the hdd
15:58<mdx0>b17, thanks
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15:59<b17>np we all get this way now and again
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16:01<mdx0>mount: gives out: /dev/sdc1 on /media/thunderbolt/bb1047bf-bff5-46bc-bdb6-a4308e6f7c8e type ext4 (rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,stripe=8191,data=ordered,uhelper=udisks2)
16:01<mdx0>and I umounted it
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16:02<mdx0>sudo fsck abort
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16:03<cruncher>mdx0, did you do fsck?
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16:03<cruncher>well, there is not much we can do. You can turn off usb autosuspend features and try again
16:04<mdx0>yes, sudo fsck tells me my system under (\) is mounted as: /dev/sda1 and aborting
16:05<cruncher>mdx0, so you ran already fsck when it was unmounted?
16:05<mdx0>fsck, tells me: can't continue
16:05<cruncher>i told you, you have to unmount it first (before fsck)
16:06<b17>fsck will default to checking filesystems in
16:06<b17> /etc/fstab serially
16:06<cruncher>ok, i see you formatted it anyway
16:06<mdx0>it is umounted> than I ran >fsck.....
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16:07<mdx0>did I make a false formating?
16:08<cruncher>no, its ok
16:08<cruncher>mdx0, do you have many/other usb devices attached?
16:09<mdx0>only, the plug from the usb mouse
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16:10<cruncher>mdx0, ok, then run this 2 commands http://paste.debian.net/984285/
16:10<cruncher>then try backup again
16:11<cruncher>they disable usb autosuspend features
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16:11<cruncher>i hope it works, it not, you might change the cable maybe
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16:12<cruncher>and in worst case, if you are using a usb 3.0 slot, try a usb 2.0 one (but it will be much slower, but maybe it works)
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16:12<cruncher>else i dont know any other fix right now
16:15<cruncher>mdx0, the two commands as root
16:15<mdx0>when, I bought the hdd it's written it is supported with kernel bla bla (can't remember the kernel version)
16:15<mdx0>sudo
16:15<mdx0>?
16:15<cruncher>easier you su, then exit after the 2 commands
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16:17<mdx0>I have a another problem, wich I never had before: typing in the shell :su >then comes> su
16:17<mdx0>Passwort:
16:17<mdx0>root@brixton:(unreachable)/#
16:18<sds>hi all, general question about linux here. Heard somewhere that it is possible to store the hash of the password directly into the /etc/passwd file, instead of /etc/shadow. Does it really work?
16:18<Arrowmaster>thats how it used to be but it was moved for security reasons
16:19<sds>so now, it won't work anymore?
16:19<cruncher>mdx0, dont worry about that problem now.. or are you saying su doesnt work
16:19<cruncher>?
16:19<sds>is it possible to "bypass" /etc/shadow if the hash is stored into /etc/passwd?
16:19<b17>cruncher: pastebin should have code tags so cut and paste wrap, but thanks for the autosuspend hack
16:19<mdx0>no, it is okay
16:20<Arrowmaster>sds: i honestly have no idea, but i dont know why you would want to
16:20<cruncher>b17, just beware as all usb devices are set
16:20<cruncher>i thought its esier like this as he has only 1 usb hd attached
16:20<cruncher>*easier
16:20<cruncher>instead f finding out the usb bus,host, etc of the device
16:21<sds>Arrowmaster: security researcher here, just wondering what I could do with the write access to /etc/passwd (other than just editiing the suid to 0 to gain root access)
16:22<mdx0>cruncher, where the 2 paste commands beginn?
16:22<cruncher>mdx0, each line is 1 command
16:23<cruncher>(for you)
16:23<mdx0>thanks
16:23<Arrowmaster>sds: in that case you could either try it or look at the login code since its all open
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16:24<Arrowmaster>i think it can still work like a legacy system without the shadow file but no idea what it does if both have hashes in them
16:26<mdx0>cruncher, okay done.
16:27<cruncher>mdx0, like i said, start backup
16:27<mdx0>thanks, something I never did before.
16:27<mdx0>YO!
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16:30<cruncher>b17, i didnt get what you meant with "should have code tags so cut and paste wrap"
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16:31<b17>cruncher: cut and paste on html yields one line, just a pet peeve i'm trying to figure out
16:31<cruncher>b17, i wanted them to be one liner, if thats what you mean
16:31<b17>select and paste
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16:32<b17>yeah but if i want to snag it and save it all pastes as oneline, kinda annoying
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16:33<cruncher>when i select it and paste it into a etxt editor, its 2 lines
16:33<b17>teally? then i must be doing it wrong
16:34<cruncher>yes, just tried as html, and as text
16:35<b17>may be my low-rent browser
16:35<cruncher>:D
16:36<cruncher>mdx0, im off for a while, i hope it works for you. Remember to try the other things/possibilities i mentioned if it fails..
16:36<b17>cruncher: i think i may have run across this autosuspend thing on long copies to usb, got any good links?
16:37<mdx0>yes, I will....thanks for support
16:37<cruncher>yeah, i myself had also very similar troubles copying huge data amounts
16:37<cruncher>b17, not really, its just in my knowledge "db"
16:37<b17>google-fu-r us thanks again
16:38<mdx0>thanks to all
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16:40<b17>so if a copy gets autosuspended midfile, that would explain the inode error i imagine
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16:41<b17>and the "dirty bit" set on vfat
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16:48<annadane>what's the reason haskell and ocaml are permanent trackers on the tracker page?
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16:59<itd>annadane: You mean on https://release.debian.org/transitions/ ?
16:59<annadane>itd, yes
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17:00<itd>annadane: Best I have is a description of "permanent": https://ben.debian.net/#_tracker
17:01<annadane>yeah, sorry, s/tracker page/transition page
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17:01<annadane>ah, thanks
17:02<Brelliot>hi
17:02<cruncher>mdx0, ... still copying? :)
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17:03<mdx0>yeah, still copying
17:03<cruncher>did it happen later? or is it already doing better than before?
17:03<mdx0>but lets wait if it ends
17:04<cruncher>of course mdx0, dont party before the success is sure
17:06<mdx0>before it was an vaguely an hour when it broken up
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17:10<mdx0>alone, I never could do it.
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17:16<mdx0>before, i touched the usb cable....now, it stucks
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17:17<cruncher>mdx0, its tuck?
17:19<mdx0>yes, it hangs
17:19<cruncher>sync, umount, fsck -f /dev/sdX, and start rsync again (dont format again)
17:19<cruncher>and you may want to change cable if you have a spare, or one from another disk
17:21<mdx0>I don't have a cable wich fits in this drive
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17:21<mdx0># sync
17:21<mdx0>rsync: [generator] write error: Broken pipe (32)
17:21<cruncher>mdx0, yeah, dont worry, was just in case, and it doesnt hurt
17:22<mdx0>I pressed ctrl +alt +c
17:23<mdx0>and execute sync and now it hungs in the bash
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17:23<cruncher>just wait
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17:27<cruncher>mdx0, and when you loose your patience, you can unplug it
17:29<b17>if the device driver supports it, the USB power/control attribute will default $
17:29<b17>to auto. There may also be a file named level. As of the 2.6.35
17:29<b17>kernel, this file is depreciated and now replaced by control.
17:30<mdx0>http://paste.debian.net/984290
17:34<cruncher>mdx0, did you already fsck?
17:34<jhutchins>sds: Yes, it's still possible to turn off shadow passwords and use the old system. You would need to read the documentation, most of which is for enabling them, but you should be able to figure out how to reverse that process.
17:35<mdx0>wait, I pull the usb cable and stick it agian in it port
17:35<mdx0>and I try the usb2.0 port
17:36<cruncher>mdx0, if you say it stuck after touching the cable, i think thats the first thing you should change/fix
17:36<mdx0>http://paste.debian.net/984291
17:37<mdx0>I having here some mount problems, thing I should know but don't know......
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17:38<mdx0>yes, I don't touch the cable again when it sick inside
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17:39<mdx0>but It don't let it mount
17:39<mdx0>again
17:39<cruncher>mdx0, is that error after fsck?
17:39<mdx0>no, after umount
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17:40<mdx0>I umount it with thunar
17:40<cruncher>mdx0, when there is trouble copying/writing something, first thing is you should run fsck
17:42<BCMM>isn't it generally a bad idea to run fsck when there is a hardware error with the block device?
17:42<BCMM>maybe check dmesg or smartctl first
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17:42<mdx0>cruncher, I don't wanna go on your nerves, I have here a goog chat protocol and have besides me the LUG.
17:43<cruncher>well, if the hw error is as such as it cant be written to the device, no, it just might delay
17:43<boodie>Hi (stable), I created some new users (useradd + passwd) successfully ... wasn't useradd supposed to create a directory under /home for each of them? It didn't. Is it sufficient to just create them? I then have to give the privileges to these users on these directories, correct?
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17:43<mdx0>but I have a little endurance
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17:43<cruncher>if htere was sensible and valuable data (and no backup), yes, you should prevent fsck
17:43<cruncher>but then again you wouldnt proceed like this
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17:44<sds>jhutchins: I'll give a look at it, ty :)
17:44<cruncher>when you need to continue writing data to the disk, you really should do a fsck before continuing
17:44<cruncher>mdx0, dont worry
17:44<mdx0>okay, I do that on my way
17:45<mdx0>yes, I have time
17:45<mdx0>fsck aborts
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17:46<b17>boodie: from man useradd: administrators should usually use adduser(8) instead
17:47<cruncher>mdx0, more details :)
17:48<cruncher>boodie, you can use "mkhomedir_helper username"
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17:48<mdx0>at the moment I try to mount the hdd but can't do it
17:48<cruncher>mdx0, why/how did fsck abort?
17:48<boodie>thanks
17:50<mdx0>/dev/sda1 is mounted e2fsck: continue not possible will abort...I translated bcz my outputs unfortunately in german
17:51<cruncher>if it says its mounted, try umount
17:52<cruncher>although it might be stuck and cant be unmounted. If you can, i would say a reboot is not bad at this time of usb errors
17:52<mdx0>umount: /: target is busy
17:52<mdx0> (In some cases useful info about processes that
17:52<mdx0> use the device is found by lsof(8) or fuser(1).)
17:53<cruncher>mdx0, you can try umount -f, and if it doesnt work, reboot
17:53<cruncher>(if you can reboot)
17:53<mdx0>yes, I can :-)
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17:58<mdx0>cruncher, so here I'm again...what shoud I do first and now? fsck or mount
17:58<cruncher>fsck -f
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18:00<mdx0>okay, same as it ever was: fsck -f gives out mounted on : /dev/sdb1 and abort
18:00<mdx0>now i will umount
18:00<mdx0>umount: /: target is busy
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18:02<cruncher>lsof | grep sdXY
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18:03<mdx0>crucher, thanks a lot for your help but I getting tired and I will talk about this problem with the LUG mailinglist and come tomorrow night back here....okay...and thanks a lot to all here ...
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18:04<mdx0>but I have a little stamina
18:04<mdx0>wait
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18:05<cruncher>mdx0, if for whatever reason the filesystem should be unrecoverable, you will have to reformat, and dont touch the cable next time.. dont look at it even :D
18:05<mdx0>okay, executed it and it quit without any message
18:05<mdx0>okay
18:06<mdx0>I will do
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18:08<mdx0>okay, I format it but where I know exact which device I have to format? sdb1 or sdc1?
18:08<b17>wouldn't umount -f and fsck -f be kinda impossible with / mounted rw?
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18:08<mdx0>mount don't give it out
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18:08<cruncher>mdx0, O-O
18:09<cruncher>dont tell me you didnt append the device name after those commands?
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18:10<mdx0>I a little confused because at first it was sdb1 and later sbc1, you understand?
18:10<cruncher>mdx0, fsck -f /dev/sdb1, and umount -f /dev/sdb1
18:10<cruncher>yes, so i thought you know to input the right device
18:10<mdx0>thanks, I learn...
18:10<cruncher>so why are you talking now about unmounting "/" ?
18:11<cruncher>that was meant before you said "you learn" ;-)
18:11<mdx0>uhhh, please let me a break
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18:12<mdx0>yes, mount /dev/sdb1 /media/usbdisk ????
18:12<cruncher>if you dont have a DE, yes
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18:13<mdx0>what?
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18:13<cruncher>Desktop Environment, xfce, gnome, kde, etc
18:13<cruncher>who would automount it for you
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18:13<mdx0>please, don't be soure to me, I have on these PC XFCE
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18:14<cruncher>im not :)
18:14<cruncher>yeah, so double click on the device, or in thunar on the device
18:15<mdx0>An operation is already pending.
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18:17<mdx0>I would format it with: mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdb1 ?? but the system lays on sba1 is that right?
18:17<mdx0>sorry,sda1 I meant
18:17<cruncher>mdx0, you should know what device it is exactly as it can change
18:18<cruncher>after plugging in the usb hd, an easy way to check is dmesg
18:18<mdx0>fsck -f tells /dev/sdb1
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18:18<mdx0>yes, that i do for generally
18:20<mdx0>sorry, I meant I look with mount and thunar what device is in the moment mounted
18:22<mdx0>no, I have to go offline and recover (me) a little, I don't want to format the home partiton....
18:22<mdx0>I'm tired
18:23<mdx0>but thanks for support
18:23<itd>mdx0: Sleep well. :)
18:23<cruncher>mdx0, gn
18:23<mdx0>I will be here, for sure morrow night
18:24<mdx0>YO!
18:24<mdx0>spider jerusalem, have to think!
18:24<mdx0>bye bye
18:24<annadane>O_o
18:25<mdx0>I collect the whole infos from you and think about and talk with the mailing list about
18:25<mdx0>thankx
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18:26<cruncher>i have here also a usb device, who behaves exactly the same, and im quite sure its the usb cable
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18:27<b17>cruncher: the rsync he ran while online here seemed to abort at about 50 min = 3000 seconds so i'm thinking autosuspend
18:28<cruncher>b17, yeah, i had high hopes it would finish, but then he "touched" the cable and it stuck :D
18:29<b17>interesting problem is it, research it does require, thanks
18:30<itd>dpkg: yoda
18:30<dpkg>yoda is, like, my translation sounding like, yes? hmmm!
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18:42<b17>should eliminate X automount problems, and udisks2 from the problem
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19:37<k-man>i have some cifs mounts in /etc/fstab but they always fail to mout at boot time. i'm guessing because the network has not yet come up with systemd
19:37<k-man>is there a better way to do this?
19:43<b17>k-man: maybe if you paste.debian.net your fstab and any error msgs from journalctl about the failed mounts
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19:46<k-man>http://paste.debian.net/984304/
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19:54<b17>hmmm, do you think some options besides credentials and gid would help? where did you get that syntax?
19:55<k-man>b17, it works fine after booting with mount -a
19:55<k-man>i think its because the network isn't up yet
19:59<b17>sorry, where?
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20:01<k-man>what i mean is, after booting, if i type mount -a, the CIFS mounts mount correctly. i think they fail to mount during boot because the network is not up yet
20:02<k-man>Sep 04 09:34:43 quartz kernel: CIFS VFS: Error connecting to socket. Aborting operation ?
20:02<fatman1683>Hello
20:02<fatman1683>I'm having a very strange issue with Debian 9
20:02<fatman1683>Any time I try to download a file from an S3 bucket using curl or wget, the machine hardlocks
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20:03<fatman1683>This is on an ESXi 6.5 VM running whatever the current Debian 9 build is, downloaded the netinst.iso today
20:03<fatman1683>Anyone seen or heard of anything like this before?
20:03<b17>k-man: that makes sense to me, have you explored ways to tell fstab to wait for the network or nofail?
20:03<k-man>b17, no, not yet
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20:05<k-man>b17, ah, that is an interesting clue. it seems you can make some devices wait for certan systemd units to be loaded
20:05<b17>k-man: try man systemd.mount or maybe just websearch - fstab cifs
20:05<fatman1683>This is what the curl output looks like before it hardlocks: https://imgur.com/a/jHnLi
20:05<k-man>nofail,x-systemd.automount,x-systemd.requires=network-online.target for instance
20:06<k-man>fatman1683, that sure does seem odd
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20:07<fatman1683>It is indeed odd, k-man
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20:13<Guest3921>My menu items, such as Files, Firefox items, which I had added to the desktop, have vanished from the desktop, and wont allow themselves to be rplaced on the desktop. This has happened on two installs of Debian mint. Any suggestions?
20:15<annadane>!mint
20:15<dpkg>Linux Mint is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Please use their forums at http://forums.linuxmint.com/ or join #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org for support. Linux Mint is variously based on <Ubuntu> with a "Linux Mint Debian Edition" (LMDE) also available. See also <based on debian>, <mintppc>.
20:15<annadane>Guest3921, ^
20:16<Guest3921>Ahh. Excuse me. My brain hiccuped. Im running debian cinnamon
20:16<annadane>ah.
20:16<Guest3921>Bad brain.
20:16<k-man>thanks for the tips b17, i'll try those fstab options and see if that fixes thigns
20:16<annadane>it's understandable :P
20:16<annadane>so you had icons before and then one day they mysteriously vanished?
20:17<Guest3921>yes.
20:17<Guest3921>And I cant p[ut them back
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21:59<klt>hi, this may sound like a silly question. anyone up to answer a silly question?
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22:01<yuta>maybe yes klt
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22:03<klt>what can it mean that my hostname changed if usually noone else uses the computer and it wasn't by me. is there another option than the intruder? the strange thing it changed 10 days ago. last application started with the original hostname (set by me) gcr-prompter and 6 minutes later cron jobs show another one.
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22:05<klt>and it changed again today - the hostname has one more letter now. maybe I should think about a reinstall.
22:06<klt>ok, probably OT, will try in #security or somewhere then
22:07<yuta>cron
22:07<yuta>cron job changed host name.
22:07<yuta>I don't know it is bug or not.
22:07<yuta>Check your script
22:07<yuta>klt
22:09<klt>yuta, you mean all the cron jobs? ok, will have a look
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22:15<klt>the only scripts that contain the hostname command are apt-cacher-ng and exim4-base, should I search for anything else? thanks yuta so far
22:21<klt>maybe is changed through some info by a local DNS
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22:28<klt>two hours ago the hostname changed again as said, 9 minutes after I logged in via ssh, again CRON has a different name than before
22:29<yuta>back
22:29<klt>maybe the computer I am working on is compromised
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22:29<yuta>maybe cron job resets hostname.
22:30<klt>possible, but it's not reset, it's a completely new hostname I never heard of
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22:34<klt>and I have no idea what to search for in the script, I mean I can't _read_ them all
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22:47<yuta>all right
22:47<yuta>klt
22:48<yuta>go #security :)
22:48<yuta>I am sorry to give up.
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23:11<klt>yuta all fine, will check my diaspora neighbours
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23:34<jathan>lulu: Hi
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23:52-!-jplejacq__ is "Jean Pierre LeJacq" on #debian-kde #debian
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23:54-!-ghost__ is "nope" on @#konversation #debian-offtopic #debian-kde #debian
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