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---Logopened Wed Sep 06 00:00:45 2017
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00:06<mots>Hello, on Jessie and earlier I can paste something into vim by right clicking anywhere in my putty window. In Stretch however it switches to visial mode when I do this. What changed and how can I get the old behaviour back?
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01:25<noot>hi boys
01:25<lulu>Hi
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01:31<AlphaOmega>Hi
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03:36<yuhlw>hello, I'm using systemd-networkd. It seems to do the job when doing a restarting this service. But at reboot, I'm getting ipv6 slaac adress that is disable within the systemd-networkd config.
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03:46<mejo>hi there
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03:46<mejo>I'm searching for Debian Docker images to use for molecule/tox tests.
03:46<mejo>seems like the official 'debian' image doesn't contain systemd/dbus per default?
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03:55<mejo>probably I just have to install systemd before running the tests.
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04:09<sbrxa>hey there, does anyone know how to get a realtek wireless controller RTL8111/8168/8411 runnin on debian 9? firmware-realtek not working
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04:22<petn-randall>sbrxa: What errors do you get?
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04:22<tt>sbrxa: is that actually a wireless controller? quick google suggests it's wired.
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04:25<sbrxa>i meant wired sorry (:, im trying to use a tplink also
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04:32<tt>sbrxa: can you please provide more description of what isn't work / error messages
04:32<tt>specifically, does the device appear in `ifconfig -a` but is broken?
04:33<tt>would be helpful if you can pastebin the output of `dmesg` (after a reboot)
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04:38<tt>bah, I actually had follow-up for him. oh well.
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04:40<tt>which was gonna be that possibly it needs r8168-dkms but I'd probably try a newer kernel from backports first; both are probably bad suggestions, so maybe he's better off :)
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04:48<mejo>mh, I fail to run systemctl stuff in Docker containers using the official Debian docker image. If I use the 'maint/debian-systemd' image, it works as expected. Even if I install systemd and dbus in the container, I get 'Failed to connect to bus: No such file or directory'. Any idea?
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04:53<mejo>seems like the official Debian Docker image doesn't run systemd as pid 1?
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05:23<mejo>mh, so using the official Debian Docker images for testing stuff that requires a init system seems like a bad idea. Bummer.
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05:46<Drzacek>Hello
05:46<Drzacek>Automounting usb drives in debian - how do I do that?
05:47<Drzacek>I want to plug pendrives and that they be mounted automatically to /media/usb[1,2,3]
05:48<mejo>Drzacek: do you use a desktop environment (e.g. gnome3)?
05:48<Drzacek>mejo, yeah, but I would like gui-independent solution
05:49<mejo>I see. you want the drive to be mounted as user or as root?
05:49<mejo>I guess that you could to this with a systemd unit. Or take a look at pmount.
05:50<Drzacek>user
05:50<Drzacek>oh, and it would be great if systemd wouldn't be involved
05:51<Drzacek>I have few systemd-less systems, it would be great to have universal way to mount them automatically
05:52<mejo>maybe take a look at the automount package?
05:52<mejo>oh, I meant 'autofs'.
05:53<Drzacek>oh, autofs. Was looking for automount but package not found
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05:55<Drzacek>hmm, looks like usbmount could do what I want. Too bad it is only in wheezy, jessie and sid, but not in stretch repo
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07:01<stevenm_>Anyone here familiar with the debian-ised way OpenLDAP/slapd has been packaged? specifically if you've got a summarised way of explaining what steps are automatically taken when creating that initial OLC database and domain?
07:02<stevenm_>i kinda want to tell it *not* to auto configure - but then you get *nothing* at all - rather than just not a default baseDN
07:02<petn-randall>stevenm_: IIRC you only get the config dn by default, but my installation has been quite a while back.
07:02<stevenm_>or possibly if someone can show me a way of installing *any* debian package... and it logging *every* command that is actually executed in a postinstall?
07:03<stevenm_>although i've got the postinstall - its very extensive and not all of it is ran
07:03<stevenm_>petn-randall, nah you get the config dn and also another dn
07:03<stevenm_>i wouldn't mind if it was just the first one
07:03<petn-randall>stevenm_: If you don't want it, you can simply delete it.
07:03<grawity>I don't think there *is* such a thing as "a default baseDN" in slapd...
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07:07<stevenm_>grawity, well it asks you for the details - but you can't tell it *not* to ask - but also make the config DN as well
07:07<stevenm_>it's all or nothing - that's what i mean
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07:08<grawity>aha I see
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07:09<stevenm_>so i don't mind if its *nothing* ... but knowing exactly what the packages post-install does (in a nutshell - maybe 3 or 4 lines to setup - i hope) would be helpful
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07:41<fourhundred>I am building qemu-system-x86 debian package in stretch
07:41<fourhundred>I get the source: apt-get source qemu-system-x86
07:41<fourhundred>and then build with dpkg-buildpackage
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07:42<fourhundred>but it builds for all architectures: i386, sparc, arm, mips, ...
07:42<fourhundred>how can i build only x86 ?
07:42<fourhundred>otherwise the compilation takes too long
07:42<cpaelzer>fourhundred: does it only build the emulation targets for all arches?
07:43<cpaelzer>fourhundred: or really the binaries for all arches?
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07:43<paul_grozav>Hello, can I make a bash script that will process line by line output, and if some output appears, to pass a string as input. I'd like to run it as ./my_app | ./my_fake_user.sh ... The fake user should be able to monitor the ouput and pass an input
07:44<cpaelzer>paul_grozav: https://linux.die.net/man/1/expect
07:44<grawity>yes but a | isn't enough for that
07:44<cpaelzer>paul_grozav: that should do what you need
07:44<grawity>yeah, if you can write Tcl, `expect` is good
07:44<paul_grozav>cpaelzer: thank you
07:45<fourhundred>cpaelzer, it builds the deb packages qemu-system-arm..., qemu-system-sparc...
07:45<cpaelzer>paul_grozav: I didn't write anything in it, but a while a go needed it - you can get along with some examples you find on the internet quite fine I'd think
07:46<cpaelzer>fourhundred: that still is the system target, but build for x86
07:46<cpaelzer>if you e.g. check file /usr/bin/qemu-system-aarch64 you'll realize it is a x86 binary
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07:46<cpaelzer>fourhundred: if you want to reduce that you need to modify the rules file that configures it
07:46<fourhundred>ok, but can i avoid thse being build ?
07:47<fourhundred>I see "--target-list" in debian/rules
07:47<cpaelzer>fourhundred: edit your debian/rules and look for system_targets and user_targets
07:47<fourhundred>is that what I need to edit ?
07:48<cpaelzer>fourhundred: yeah kind of, not sure if you need to adapt more when dropping that - but shrink the lists and see if you have follow on breakage (like missing a file that it is trying to install in dh_install or such)
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07:59<fourhundred>cpaelzer, setting --target-list="x86_64-linux-user" did not help
08:00<fourhundred>it still builds all the packages
08:00<fourhundred>I also set system_targets = x86_64
08:00<BrainError404>Why when I try to fix grub it says /boot/grub/stage01 not read correctly?
08:00<fourhundred>no effect either
08:01<BrainError404>*stage1
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08:14<cpaelzer>fourhundred: hmm the config that is generated should hav enot enabeld all these when you shrank the list
08:14<cpaelzer>fourhundred: sure it is still running the same
08:15<cpaelzer>fourhundred: maybe as a start compare the ./configure calls of the buildlog now and before
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08:50<antzero>APT: I'm trying to pin a package to repository "deb URL unstable main". I've added the highest priority in apt/preferences and Pinned by origin URL
08:51<antzero>Problem is: I have every package tracking unstable by default
08:51<blast007>are you running stable?
08:51<antzero>It's a general apt question
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08:52<blast007>is that a no?
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08:52<antzero>The apt version I'm running is the one on stable
08:52<antzero>If you don't want to help me it's okay
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08:53<blast007>!ssb
08:53<dpkg>First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>.
08:53<antzero>The pin by release priority overriddes the pin by origin, since that origin is providing that release. Any tip?
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08:54<antzero>Okay you are kidding, gonna ask in #debian-next anyway
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09:11<xormor>what was apt-get pinning about, anyway? a guy taught me that earlier, but I never really understood what it was about. or if I did, I forgot.
09:14<itd>dpkg: apt-pinning
09:14<dpkg>Pinning is a method to choose which version of a package to install when multiple versions are available from <sources.list>. Bugs are explained at https://web.archive.org/web/20121017070250/http://carlo17.home.xs4all.nl/howto/debian.html#errata . If you use stable, pinning won't help you from messing up the system, ask me about <backports> instead. https://wiki.debian.org/AptPreferences
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09:15<itd>xormor: I guess the relevant part is that on stable "pinning won't help you from messing up the system". ;)
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09:41<madduck>when I install Debian, it defaults to grub-pc. How can I force it to do EFI?
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09:44<petn-randall>madduck: You have to boot the installation image in EFI mode. EFI by design has to restrict access to EFI components and the ESP when booting in legacy mode.
09:45<madduck>i thought that was the reason indeed
09:45<madduck>now if only i could get it to boot off the bloody UEFI network stack
09:45<petn-randall>madduck: Simplest way is to deactivate legacy and CSM in the settings.
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09:46<madduck>what is csm?
09:46<madduck>i found the setting and i guess i need to look this up
09:46<madduck>gosh i hate hardware ;)
09:47<BCMM>ah, now i know where i went wrong when i installed debian
09:48<BCMM>madduck: if, like me, you've already finished the install, only to be surprised at reboot, you don't need to install all over again
09:48<BCMM>i just chrooted in and installed grub-efi
09:48<Walex>BCMM: exactly!
09:48<madduck>i am doing test installs anyway at this stage, BCMM but thanks.
09:48<Walex>BCMM: it is a bit surprising that the install process though does not remind people to install that too.
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09:51<madduck>the UEFI network boot checks the media connectivity, but then throws me into a EFI shell.
09:51<madduck>gotta figure out if and how to jump to network boot from there i guess
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09:58<madduck>the stupid thing requests debian-installer/pxelinux.0 from the tftp server according to logs, but then doesn't boot it, and everything happens too quick for me to glean an error message or the like
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10:01<petn-randall>madduck: To install what exactly? Do you mean grub-efi? That is installed if you boot the installer in EFI mode. In legacy mode the installer has no way of telling if the system is capable of booting in EFI mode.
10:01<madduck>petn-randall: I am trying to boot the installer in EFI mode. But the install media are PXE. do I need to create a usb stick??
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10:03<petn-randall>madduck: idk how PXE and EFI interact. But USB thumb drive would be an easy way, even if it's only for testing purposes.
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10:54<broke>How can I check what version of SATA is using my dvd drive?
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11:00<grawity>try to dig it out from dmesg, using `journalctl /dev/sr0`
11:00<grawity>the link speed seems to be shown at /sys/class/block/sr0/device/../../../link*/ata_link/link*/sata_spd
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11:04<broke>grawity: what link*?
11:05<grawity>whatever it finds
11:05<grawity>the number might be different, hence the *
11:05<broke>do you mean symbolic link?
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11:05<grawity>no
11:05<grawity>literally just run `cat /sys/class/block/sr0/device/../../../link*/ata_link/link*/sata_spd`
11:06<broke>I found nothin in /sys/class/block/sr0/device/../../../
11:06<broke>there is a symbolic link but there is no ata_link in it
11:06<broke>the symbolic link is called driver
11:06<grawity>do you have *any* links at /sys/class/ata_link/ then?
11:07<grawity>the whole path worked for me on Debian, but I suppose the structure might be slightly different on other systems
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11:08<broke>Yeah I have
11:08<broke>I don't know which one is my dvd drive because there are 5 links at /sys/class/ata_link/
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11:10<grawity>though, I still say that `journalctl /dev/sr0` might work better
11:11<broke>Hmm I probably know why I can't figure it out
11:11<broke>Probably the dvd drive is disabled in UEFI...
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11:23<broke>grawity: Both commands have worked
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11:25<broke>grawity: `journalctl /dev/sr0` gave me "ahci 0000:00:1f.2: AHCI 0001.0300 32 slots 4 ports 6 Gbps 0x14 impl SATA mode"
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11:26<broke>grawity: `cat /sys/class/block/sr0/device/../../../link*/ata_link/link*/sata_spd` gave me "1.5 Gbps"
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11:27<grawity>my guess would be "port capable of 6 Gbps, device negotiated 1.5 Gbps"
11:27<grawity>because why would a DVD drive need more than that?
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11:27<broke>grawity: I thought exactly the same but I want to be sure that the port could handle 6Gbps
11:28<grawity>the line above should also show the SATA version
11:28<grawity>I'm not sure if that's "in use" or "maximum" though
11:28<broke>I'm not sure, too
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11:34<broke>grawity: I think that line above 1.5Gbps it's in use but I'm not sure that the dvd sata port is able to handle 6Gbps it seems so but I want to be sure
11:35<grawity>are you planning for a SSD?
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11:35<broke>Yeah
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11:36<grawity>then I think SATA itself will be the biggest problem
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11:38<broke>Why? I've heard that the dvd drive in laptops is connected to SATA 1.5Gbps while the hard drive is connected to 6Gbps, but I couldn't confirm it
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11:43<sevu>Are users by default part of the users group?
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11:44<sevu>I can't check myself at the moment because I have no Debian machine around which I didn't clutter yet
11:45<broke>I think if you have used adduser then I'd guess so
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11:45<grawity>broke: the protocol doesn't deal well with massively parallel usage that SSDs are capable of
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11:46<broke>grawity: I mean the version of the SATA interface
11:46<broke>I don't know which one it is
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11:47<sevu>and If you just installed Debian? Could you maybe tell me if it is listed in the output of the >groups< command?
11:47<blast007>sevu: I don't have any users in the 'users' group
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11:48<sevu>ok, thanks
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11:48<blast007>instead, there's a group named the same as the user
11:48<broke>sevu: if you have used adduser then there is a group named the same as the user accunt
11:48<broke>I don't know if useradd does the same
11:49<sevu>I think so.
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11:49<blast007>from man useradd: 'By default, a group will also be created for the new user (see -g, -N, -U, and USERGROUPS_ENAB).'
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11:50<drzacek>Hello again
11:50<grawity>the latter is an /etc/login.defs setting
11:50<sevu>I see
11:51<broke>grawity: do you know how can do benchmarks for my hdd?
11:51<broke>I know there are a few console programmes
11:53<drzacek>I had problems with booting debian again - same problem as last time, had to do e2fsck (or something - the one that checks ext# filesystems). Since last time I only rebooted to windows and tried starting now again - so I guess it is not "unclean shutdown". Anyway, is there a log somewhere of the errors I got? dmesg only shows current session, not last one
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14:47<madduck>does anyone know the solution to the problem where netboot d-i via a serial console ends up just using the first column of the terminal? it's completely unusable. :/
14:49<topkek>exit
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15:18<jhutchins_wk>madduck: Sorry, never seen it.
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15:20<madduck>neither
15:24<itd>madduck: You could try "stty rows 24 cols 80".
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15:27<madduck>at the isolinux prompt?
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15:32<itd>madduck: Is it available there?
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15:33<madduck>itd: no, it is not. I just see "boot:" and then whatever I do causes characters to dance in column 0
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15:36<itd>madduck: IMHO that sounds like an unsuccessful boot attempt. The prompt expects you to enter a path to something to boot from and resets if that fails. (But I have no idea.)
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15:47<Florian_>Hi all can somebody help me?
15:47<Florian_>how can i see which config uses the mysql server?
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15:47<Florian_>i have latest debian
15:47<Florian_>and mysql
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15:49<Florian_>If i use "mysqld --help --verbose | grep my.cnf" i get /etc/my.cnf /etc/mysql/my.cnf ~/.my.cnf
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15:49<Florian_>but in my.cnf is ([mysql])
15:50<Florian_>what means [mysql] and where is the config?
15:50<Florian_>can somebody help me?
15:50<annadane>Florian_, someone will if they know the answer
15:51<Florian_>Okay thank you.
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15:54<dboles>"in my.cnf is..." - which my.cnf?
15:54<Walex>Florian_: that is a really basic questiond and perhaps reading the manual sometimes helps...
15:55<Florian_>no thats really not. i can explain...
15:55<dboles>for example, /etc/mysql/my.cnf does this
15:55<Walex>Florian_: that above means that on statup any or all of them will be read by thge daemom.
15:55<dboles># Import all .cnf files from configuration directory
15:55<dboles>!includedir /etc/mysql/conf.d/
15:55<dboles>!includedir /etc/mysql/mariadb.conf.d/
15:55<Florian_>first config is /etc/mysql/my.cnf in this config i can read !includedir /etc/mysql/conf.d/ !includedir /etc/mysql/mysql.conf.d/
15:55<itd>Florian_: Looking at 'man mysql' that seems to be one of 4 configuration groups (all settings that follow until another "[..]" are in that group). Look for "MYSQL OPTIONS" in that manpage.
15:56<Florian_>in !includedir /etc/mysql/conf.d/ the file my.cnf is with text [mysql]
15:56<Walex>Florian_: in Debian in particular by default the daemon reads either '/etc/mysql/my.cnf' or '/etc/mysql/debian.cnf'
15:57<Florian_>yeah thats right. But in the config is written "[mysql]" what mean this and where i can find the real config file?
15:57<Walex>Florian_: read 'zless /usr/share/doc/mysql-server-5.5/README.Debian.gz' for the difference
15:57<dboles>that is a config section heading
15:57<dboles>with no items within it
15:58<Florian_>okay the it runs the standart config?
15:58<Walex>Florian_: MySQL configs are written in MS-DOS '.ini' file format
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15:59<Florian_>i need to change some settings like query_cache_size so i should create a new ini file? Or should i write this in my.cnf?
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16:00<Florian_>in old version my whole config was in the my.cnf file
16:00<Florian_>now its all empty. So thats why i ask here.
16:00<Walex>Florian_: I write it in 'my.cnf' but some people prefer a "modular" approach with subfiles in '/etc/mysql/conf.d/'
16:00<dboles>you can just try it
16:01<dboles>override the required settings at whatever scope you need (~ or /etc, and so on), and see what happens. it should just work, like any other config file
16:01<Florian_>Okay thank you all, It was only strange all file was empty.. maybe the update broke my config
16:02<Walex>Florian_: there are hundreds if not thousands of tutorials on MySQL configuration. Also examples in 'ls -l /usr/share/doc/mysql-server-*/examples/'
16:02<itd>mariadb is the new mysql - /usr/share/doc/mariadb-server-10.1/README.Debian.gz
16:02<Florian_>i will wirte it in /etc/mysql/conf.d/my.cnf
16:02<piper>yep maria
16:02<Walex>itd: many people are still using "oldstable"
16:03<itd>Walex: Maybe, but I'd guess that "latest debian" == stretch. :)
16:03<Florian_>But why is the config blank?
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16:04<Florian_>yeah i use Release: 9.1 Codename: stretch
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16:05<Walex>Florian_: you should ask the sysadmin why they put in an empty config...
16:05<Florian_>should i change to mariadb? Or is mysql still good
16:05<dboles>i'm sure this is all documented profusely
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16:05<Florian_>yeah i will ask him.
16:05<jhutchins_wk>Florian_: You should probably check README and release notes in /usr/share/doc/
16:07<Florian_>Sorry one more question, where can i get a configuration file for the latest version? Is it in the doc?
16:09<dboles>there is no single "configuration file" for any version; it depends on what your site needs. if you don't know you need one, then you don't need one
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16:36<mdx0>Hi, I'm busy with a backup. somethings went wrong can't find the usb-disk with: mount. I'm having mount problems.
16:36<somiaj>what do you mean can't find the usb-disk? you should be able to find info about the disk in 'dmesg'
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16:37<somiaj>blkid can also help
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16:38<msds>hi,
16:39<msds>i am new here!
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16:39<annadane>hi msds, do you have a debian support question?
16:39<lids>mdx0: try 'fdisk -l'
16:39<msds>yes
16:40<somiaj>!ask
16:40<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
16:40<somiaj>msds: ^^
16:41<msds>ok,
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16:41<msds>i want to install gnome3 on kali!
16:42<itd>dpkg: kali
16:42<dpkg>Kali Linux (http://www.kali.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on chat.freenode.net or http://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian>, and read http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html
16:42<msds>it's possible?
16:42<towo`>ask the kali guys
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16:42<itd>msds: Then please ask in the Kali channel. :)
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16:42<mdx0>lids, I found 3 devices. sda1, sda2, sda5, but not the usb-disk
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16:43<msds>where i can find their channel!
16:43<itd>msds: #kali-linux on chat.freenode.net
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16:44<somiaj>mdx0: did you just plug in the usb disk, check the output of 'dmesg' after you plug in the disk
16:44<msds>ok itd^^ thanks!
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16:48<mdx0>somiaj, dmesg, tells me at the end, something from: sdb and: fdisk -l, tell me something too from /dev/sdb1
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16:49<jhutchin1_wk>mdx0: Unless you're running a GUI that automounts it, you won't see it in mount or df.
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16:50<jhutchin1_wk>mdx0: sda? is a partiton, sda and sdb are devices /dev/sda /dev/sdb
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16:55<lids>mdx0: try 'mount /dev/sdb1 /media/usb
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16:56<mdx0>jhutchin1_wk, /dev/sda is the first hdd and /dev/sdb/ is the second disk (the usb-disk) is that true?....YO! I will format it again, and trying the backup, how somebody here told me.
16:57<lids>mdx0: yeap! sdb1 is your usb device
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16:57<mdx0>lids, thunar allready shows me the device
16:58<mdx0>I can manually mount it with mount or thunar
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16:59<lids>nice! you can umount usb-disk with 'umount /media/usb or wherever you had mount it already. You can create folders on /media for different kind of disks to mount them! try it
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17:01<lids>mdx0: other disks appears as sdc or sdd.. have fun
17:01<mdx0>thanks
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17:03<jhutchin1_wk>Note that USB devices may not appear in the same order every time.
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17:05<mdx0>I tried to format the usb-disk with: sudo mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdb1, than mkfs tells me it were mounted but thunar says it where not mounted?
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17:06<mdx0>no, inexact, mkfs tells me it was mounted 3 days before
17:08<mdx0>I want to use the whole usb-disk and format it in 1 partition. Than, I have to format it with: sudo mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdb1? is that true?
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17:09<lids>mdx0: umount it first, unplug, plugin, fdisk -l and then proceed to mkfs command
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17:10<mdx0>mount told me it is not mounted
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17:12<lids>mdx0: so go on! it must be not mounted. try again
17:12<mdx0>I'm allready exact on this
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17:15<mdx0>but one thing, I bought the disk new, and it was formated with fat32, the disk should have 4TB but fdisk -l tells me the hdd has 3,7 TB,
17:16<lids>mdx0: if you unplug and replug your disk sdb have changed as already told jhutchin1_wk: try to find your disk again with fdisk -l
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17:17<mdx0>I'm exact at this point
17:17<lids>this is normal 3,7 is in use (hidden .exe filesystem maybe)
17:17<lids>is this a westerndigital?
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17:18<mdx0>it's a intenso memory center 3,5 portable hdd with 4tb
17:18<lids>ok then
17:19<mdx0>should work with Linux 2.4
17:20<lids>I guess no prob
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17:28<mdx0>okay, I do it like someone told me, sync, umount, fsck -f /dev/sdb1 and start rsync again....:-)
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17:42<mdx0>I'm at this point to fsck -f... but fsck-f told me it allready in use, I wanna do it exactly like someone told me
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17:42<mdx0>fsck -f aborting
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17:42<mdx0>and now?
17:43<mdx0>don't have any clue
17:43<Brigo>mdx0, what is already in use?
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17:45<mdx0>fsck -f /dev/sdb1
17:45<mdx0>fsck from util-linux 2.25.2
17:45<mdx0>e2fsck 1.42.12 (29-Aug-2014)
17:45<mdx0>/dev/sdb1 wird verwendet.
17:45<mdx0>e2fsck: Fortsetzung nicht möglich, wird abgebrochen.
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17:46<Brigo>mdx0, sorry, i don't undestand that language
17:46<Brigo>try LC_ALL=C fsck -f /dev/sdb1
17:46<lids>mdx0: umount it first as always
17:46<Brigo>and then paste in paste.debian.net (or you could get banned from this channel for flooding the channel)
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17:47<mdx0>LC_ALL=C fsck -f /dev/sdb1
17:47<mdx0>fsck from util-linux 2.25.2
17:47<mdx0>e2fsck 1.42.12 (29-Aug-2014)
17:47<mdx0>/dev/sdb1 is in use.
17:47<mdx0>e2fsck: Cannot continue, aborting.
17:48<Brigo>mdx0, trust what lids said :)
17:48<itd>dpkg: pastebinit
17:48<dpkg>A command-line tool to send data to a <pastebin>. To paste e.g. your sources.list do "aptitude install pastebinit; pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list"; to paste the output of a program do e.g. "dmesg | pastebinit". See also <pastebinit config>, <nopaste>.
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17:48<mdx0>that was the last time I flood
17:49<itd>mdx0: Use it. No need to copy & paste anything. ;)
17:49<mdx0>yes
17:51<mdx0>but what is when fsck -l is allready in use?
17:51<mdx0>do I have to stop it before and start again?
17:52<itd>mdx0: Did you umount it?
17:53<rafael>ho0w can I use kernel-package on debian 9 please? I need make-kpkg
17:53<mdx0>yes, I wanted to do it in the same order and made it twice
17:55<lids>mdx0: you can also try to ask for any help to a debian chan for your language. It's more decentralized.. try debian.de and if they cannot help you come back!
17:56<mdx0>lids, I like to learn english and don't like to go somewere other
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17:57<lids>excuse me. Take this as an info
17:57<mdx0>no problem
17:59<Brigo>rafael, you don't need it, the kernel source scripts do it for you.
17:59<mdx0>lids, do you have an idea what I can do, to go forward with fsck -f when I allready execute this command?
17:59<Brigo>rafael, there is a make debianpackage or something like this.
17:59<Brigo>mdx0, is the filesystem unmounted?
18:01<mdx0>reboot and to the same order....? no, I guess the filesystem is probable mounted?
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18:04<mdx0>how I can stop fsck -f and do the precedure again....?
18:04<lids>If you want to use this command (fsck) your usb-disk must not be mounted
18:05<Brigo>mdx0, is that filesystem exte?
18:05<Brigo>ext3?
18:05<mdx0>Brigo, its ext4
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18:05<mdx0>lids, the usb-disk is allready umounted
18:05<Brigo>mdx0, are you still with that problem?
18:06<lids>So what's the problem once again?
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18:07<mdx0>I like to start fsck -f but it' allread running and aborting
18:07<rafael>Brigo, thanks
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18:07<Brigo>rafael, np
18:08<Brigo>mdx0, kill it
18:08<mdx0>okay, that not a problem: top & kill the process
18:09<mdx0>but what is the name of the job?
18:09<Brigo>or pgrep -l fsck and kill
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18:09<Brigo>mdx0, fsck
18:10<mdx0>not listing in top
18:10<Brigo>what about pgrep -l fsck
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18:12<mdx0>pgrep -l fsck stops without a output
18:13<samantha->is there a thing about rsync choking on directories that have too many files? i'm trying to mirror something with ~50k files in it, and when it comes to a file that needs to be transferred, it hangs.
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18:16<lids>ohh he killed himself
18:16<lids>:P
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18:18<mamoli>hi
18:19<dondelelcaro>samantha-: it sometimes takes longer to figure out which files to transfer, but 50k files isn't all that many
18:19<mdx0>I rebbot and fdisk -f gives out the divices upside down
18:19<samantha->dondelelcaro, yeah, it seems to choke once it starts the transfer, not in the figure-it-out stage.
18:21<mamoli>where can speak of problem of exploits
18:21<dondelelcaro>samantha-: hrm; are you using rsync -avP or similar to show you the progress?
18:22<itd>mamoli: Kali?
18:22<mamoli>Parrot
18:22<itd>dpkg: parrot
18:22<dpkg>Parrot OS (https://www.parrotsec.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution. It is based on Debian testing, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #parrot on irc.frozenbox.org or try the mailing lists at http://lists.parrotsec.org/listinfo. Also ask me about <based on debian>.
18:22<itd>mamoli: #parrot on irc.frozenbox.org
18:23<mamoli>and these chats
18:23<itd>mamoli: Debian only.
18:24<samantha->dondelelcaro, --progress --partial --delete
18:24<samantha->dondelelcaro, sorry, -trvh --progress --partial --delete
18:24<mamoli>tank is my first speaking in this chat
18:24<dondelelcaro>samantha-: cool; and you're not seeing any progress? might it be deleting files?
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18:24<dondelelcaro>samantha-: you can check with --delete-after or similar
18:24<mamoli>tanks itd
18:25<samantha->dondelelcaro, no. it starts a transfer and THEN hangs
18:25<itd>mamoli: np.
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18:25<dondelelcaro>samantha-: ah, so it starts the transfer, and then there is no progress, and the progress meter doesn't get updated?
18:25<samantha->it's not doing it from a different box as the source, which leads me to believe something's fubar on my normal source.
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18:25<samantha->dondelelcaro, yes, you have correctly described the issue.
18:26<dondelelcaro>samantha-: are you using rsyncd or ssh?
18:26<dondelelcaro>samantha-: if ssh, you might try sharing a connection, and seeing what it's doing on the source
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18:26<dondelelcaro>it's possible that the connection is being torn down or blocked or something else silly
18:26<dondelelcaro>and rsync just takes a long time to eventually time out
18:27<samantha->alternative: is there a utility that will run a job only when a semaphore file appears? i.e., touch go.now causes a process to run?
18:28<dondelelcaro>samantha-: I have one I wrote; there's probably others
18:29<mdx0>okay, I reboot and do the the procedure and do it in the exactly same order....then fsck -f /dev/sda1 works now, I try to backup with rsync, I hope I don't got on somebodies nerves?
18:29<samantha->last one i saw was a DOS utility, with the helpful name of waiter. but it required desqview to do any real good. :-)
18:29<dondelelcaro>samantha-: https://git.donarmstrong.com/?p=bin.git;a=blob_plain;f=run_when_changed
18:30<dondelelcaro>in this case, you can just do something like run_when_changed go.now -- your command with arguments
18:30<samantha->i'll dig. thank you!
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18:31<dondelelcaro>(basically, it uses inotify; you can also do something less nice using a while/test/sleep loop)
18:31<samantha->i was thinking it may simply be easiest to simply run a cron job on a short timer. it's only rsync and it doesn't change very often.
18:32<dondelelcaro>you can do that too; just depends on how much of a delay is acceptable
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18:36<mamoli_>hi
18:36<mdx0>thanks for support and chat
18:37<itd>mdx0: good luck with your backup :)
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18:38<mdx0>crossed bones, thanx
18:38<mamoli_>nobody in others chats :c
18:38<mdx0>or crossed fingers?
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18:41<mdx0>sorry, but I have to ask once more, run rsync mounted?
18:43<itd>mdx0: Yes, mount the disk (first), then rsync to disk.
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18:43<mdx0>yep, thanks, I wasn't anymore sure
18:44<mamoli_>alguien que hable spa;ol
18:44<annadane>!es
18:44<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
18:45<mdx0>but I'm not beliving that the backup pass? but if not I will ask here for help....
18:45<mdx0>thank you!!!
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20:22<mdx0>hi, I'm back backup broke up again
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20:47<mdx0>rsync, broke with these usage up:
20:47<mdx0>http://paste.debian.net/984878
20:47<mdx0>if someone have enough time and like help
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20:51<b17>mdx0: why your paste left out the rsync command? also, are you sure you should copy from/to linked files?
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20:53<mdx0>b17, I don't exact know, I post these paste because rsync broke up and spit this error code out?
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20:54<b17>mdx0: you left out the command you entered, that will help people understand. Also, like I said rsync can't rename rangerxyzups0/-> "ps0/**" it is a linked file, should probably be ignored by your backup plan?
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20:55<mdx0>okay, why is it so difficult to make a complete backup ?
20:56<popup>is there a way, using iptables, to specify a broadcast address in dport? for example, 192.168.0.255 through 192.168.255.255?
20:56<mdx0>b17, what schould I do, now?
20:56<mdx0>I'm finished (for) to night
20:57<b17>mdx0: it's okay, everybody has to learn basics, like how to mount, how to do basic tasks. You probably will get it after reading the man page for rsync a little more. good luck
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20:57<mdx0>YO! That should I do..
20:57<popup>afaik, iptables does not support wildcards, so i can't do --dport 192.168.*.255
20:58<popup>and netmasks would not preserve the last octet.
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21:05<popup>brb
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21:07<k-man>i want to have a squashfs file mounted at boot time to a directory in my home folder. i put home on zfs so it gets mounted at some point during boot, but linux tries to mount my squashfs before /home is mounted causing issues. is there some option i can give the fstab entry to ensure home is mounted before it tries to mount the squashfs?
21:10<b17>k-man: if there are any, probably in man systemd.mount i think there is a x-systemd.requires, guessing you will need local-fs.target?
21:12<k-man>b17, thanks
21:12<k-man>i found there is a zfs.target
21:12<k-man>maybe after that
21:13<b17>k-man: not sure but fstab used to be mounted in order, probably a long gone ide
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21:13<k-man>yeah so i believe
21:14<b17>fsatb-generator might help too but i haven't been down that rabbit hole
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21:15<b17>yeah try man systemd-fstab-generator
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21:16<jmcnaught>k-man: did you look at the systemd.mount(5) man page? It describes some options you can use in fstab
21:16<k-man>i think adding x-systemd.requires might be what I need
21:17<jmcnaught>yeah
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21:19<k-man>hmm.. it meantions it needs a unit, would a target work do you think?
21:19<k-man>ie, x-systemd.requires=zfs.target
21:19<k-man>its fun testing as if it doesn't work, it causes /home to fail to mount and then linux drops to single user mode to let you fix it at boot time
21:19<k-man>kind of annoying
21:21<jmcnaught>zfs.target is probably what you want, but you could also use a mount unit. list them with 'systemctl list-units --type=mount'
21:21<b17>yeh you should be able to use target see man systemd.unit search for After=
21:21<k-man>jmcnaught, nice, thanks
21:22<k-man>i'll try the home.mount for now. seems like a good option
21:24<k-man>thanks for the pointers
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22:09<gnewbie3>Hi! Can somebody help me
22:11<annadane>!ask
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22:11<annadane>gnewbie3, it's a help channel, just ask
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22:23-!-gnewbie is "Thomas" on #debian #debian-es
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22:44-!-dpkg is "apt backup" on #debian
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22:46-!-_4ls is "LSI" on #area31 @#Brasil @#cebolinha #debian #debian-br #debian-es #oatha #OpenBSD #pandorah #slackware
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22:48-!-robot is "realname" on #debian
22:48<robot>hola
22:48<robot>alguien habla spanish
22:48-!-tobi_ [~tobi@p5DDF1876.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #debian
22:48-!-tobi_ is "Tobias Frost" on #debconf-video #debian-mia #debian-ftp #debconf #debian #debian-games #debian-mentors
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22:49-!-Blue_Hat is "TwinKam20" on #debian
22:49<robot>Hola
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22:49-!-preview is "preview" on #debian
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22:53<annadane>!es
22:53<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
22:53<annadane>robot, ^
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22:55<robot>join debian-es
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23:58-!-Logg is "realname" on #awesome #debian
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23:58-!-missmbob is "missmbob" on #debian-offtopic #debian-next #debian
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23:59-!-schoppenhauer2 is "css" on #bitlbee
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