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#debian IRC Logs for 2017-09-17

---Logopened Sun Sep 17 00:00:00 2017
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00:46<alyssa>I have an ath9k_htc device (USB wifi adapator). Its firmware is proprietary in stretch but free in buster. I'm aware that making a frankendebian is a bad idea (due to dependencies), but the firmware package appears simple enough that this should not be an issue. Thoughts? https://packages.debian.org/buster/firmware-ath9k-htc
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00:47<alyssa>(Side question: the netinst does not prompt for firmware for the device, free or otherwise, so I'm not sure how I would give it that deb to begin with)
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00:49<alyssa>I'm hoping to avoid buster for stability sake...
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00:50<alyssa>(Although I suppose a frankendebian would be compromising stability anyway)
00:51<annadane>hmm
00:52<annadane>i'd guess the only downside to that would be if stable components start to refer to it even without dependencies
00:52<annadane>but i don't really have a good answer
00:52<annadane>frankendebian is mostly about dependencies but it may relate to other things as well
00:52<alyssa>hmm ok
00:53<alyssa>I suppose the real question, then: which is more stable, this or buster? :p
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00:54<annadane>i suspect the real answer is very specific to firmware-ath9k-htc
00:54<annadane>anyway, i really can't answer this one
00:55<alyssa>thanks anyway :)
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00:56<alyssa>(The pkg is *really* simple, just copying a few files to /lib/firmware and /etc/modprobe.d...)
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01:03<alyssa>...time to try buster?
01:03<alyssa>ugh I really didn't want to make this a dev machine
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01:09<alyssa>hmm, trying the netinst+nonfree image, maybe I can get it installed that way (with the proprietary fw) and sort out the back port later
01:09*alyssa isn't positive the Atheros firmware is even bundled
01:10<annadane>honestly if you went ahead and installed the buster version it wouldn't be the stupidest thing people have done between adding random repositories and every non free software under the sun
01:11<annadane>i don't want to go ahead and say "it'll be fine go ahead" but i somewhat doubt it would break
01:11<annadane>but let's wait for the actual experts, shall we
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01:11<alyssa>hmph :p
01:12<annadane>it doesn't have _any_ dependencies
01:13<alyssa>the nonfree netinst doesn't detect it either T_T
01:14<alyssa>now I'm really irked :S
01:15<annadane>join us on sid, we have cookies
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01:38<Guest4835>ola
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01:40<annadane>!es
01:40<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
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01:52<alyssa>Well, I've officially made a Frankendebian. Good show, everyone :^)
01:55<alyssa>...and wi-fi is working with all free software \ o /
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03:48<antiXWilson>hey
03:49<antiXWilson>Does anyone know about a good Network chat/forum?
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07:21<EvilSoul>hello
07:21<EvilSoul>anyway around ?
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07:32<kblin>morning folks
07:33<kblin>I just installd stretch with the XFCE desktop environment, and it seems like ssh-agent and gpg-agent aren't started on login.
07:33<kblin>any idea on where to start debugging this?
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08:24<b17>kblin: ps ax | grep ssh-agent
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08:39<antiXWilson>I love the answers
08:39<antiXWilson>lol
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08:43<kblin>b17: I've decided to switch to gnome for the time being, there the keyring is working
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11:10<x>you are a robot?
11:11<x>hello
11:11<annadane>!ask
11:11<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
11:11<x>what is xchat
11:12<annadane>xchat is an irc client
11:12<annadane>do you have a debian support question?
11:12<x>no
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11:13<annadane>xchat isn't actually available in stretch, but it is in stretch-backports
11:13<x>how install font for debian 8.0?
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11:14<grawity>annadane: better directly recommend hexchat in that case; at least it's getting some maintenance
11:15<petn-randall>x: What font do you want to install?
11:15<x>MS font
11:16<petn-randall>x: If you want to install the "Microsoft True Type Core Fonts for the Web", just install ttf-mscorefonts-installer.
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11:21<mnuhmnuh>or perhaps fonts-liberation? :-)
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11:41<mo>did debian 9 drop exim from the base install? (no DE selected during tasksel)
11:41<mo>minimal install. installed a fresh 9.1
11:42<mo>i remember having exim4 as the default mta on all before installed debian releases
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11:45<mo>don't get me wrong, i find this welcome since i install opensmtpd or postfix... just curious as to why that happened
11:45<mo>could not find any info on the net
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11:46<b17_>mo: i found the same, maybe because default-mta is 'optional' priority?
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11:47<mo>b17_: yeah, that might be the case... i was just curious... since debian always installed exim4-base as the default mta. (at least since i use debian - which is like 9 years now)
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11:51<b17_>mo: not finding mutt was a little shocking, but i somehoe got bsd-mailx drug in, it's ok.
11:52<mo>b17_: indeed! at least you got a alternative ;) (i was never into mutt a lot tbh)
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12:05<oxi>hi
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12:08<duglas>anyone know how to get Ekiga to work on Debian Stretch
12:09<annadane>duglas, just apt install ekiga
12:10<annadane>it seems to be available in stretch
12:10<annadane>unless you mean "to work" as in "it's not working"?
12:11<annadane>in which case you can try consulting the readme, which should be in /usr/share/doc/ekiga
12:11<duglas>It works fine up to the point where it drops out when trying to call across my lan. I want it to work when my wife takes her laptop (windows) to visit a friend
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12:13<duglas>No result from the "Echo test"
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12:22<jhutchins>I've never known anybody who got one of the linux audio/video chat clients working unless it was full-blown asterisk.
12:24<petn-randall>jhutchins: Most WebRTC video call clients work out of the box with Firefox/Chrome.
12:24<dcosnet>jhutchins: eh thats odd.
12:24<duglas>I can try asterisk, cant be wors than this.
12:24<dcosnet>i've used tox chat clients on all platforms nicely. although i suggest the world investigates whats really going on there.
12:24<petn-randall>duglas: The problem aren't the protocols, it's overcoming various forms of NAT that creates problems.
12:25<dcosnet>the backstory to tox got sketchy
12:26<duglas>petn-randall, that would be my Linksys router?
12:27<dcosnet>ftw the original domain to tox was tox.im... so their story is trueish. or worth investigating at the least. (sure a community oriented person could simply have just taken over, or hell, maybe their audacious claim)
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12:31<abrotman>duglas: the test number doesn't work either? It doesn't connect, or sound/video doesn't work?
12:32<duglas>the sound tests ok and I get my own face to look at. The test number doesn't work.
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12:33<jhutchins>nat + firewalls + directory service/central connector.
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12:35<abrotman>duglas: what is the error?
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12:39<mdx0>okay, boys and girls, I have one more problem, I was busy with a backup and during I was very carefully but I drag and drop this command to the bash: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=8M; with the mouse and it execute it automatically. I wanted to modify the command for the external HDD and I don't push the enter key and for almost 30 seconds before I recognize it: dd wrote on my system?
12:39<duglas>I will restart ekiga from the cli and report the last few msgs
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12:42<duglas>Ekiga starts just fine, Called my wife across the lan, heard the ringtone, then the call box just dropped out, cli just reported the version number
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12:43<b17_>mdx0: i never heard of drag and drop like that, but yeah paste does that if you select a whole line.
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12:44<annadane>which is, imo, silly
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12:44<mdx0>I don't know how many was overwritten? Do you mean the /home directory is lost?
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12:46<hthoreau>Good evening.
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12:46<duglas>mdx0, when you copied the command, did you include the "end of line" character (would look like a space)?
12:46<b17_>guess it depends... zero write to /dev/sdb i assume would destroy the part table, but what part was home?
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12:47<hthoreau>I found out that Synaptic has a nifty little function to generate an installation script based on all packages that were manually installed.
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12:48<mdx0>dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=8M ; so I drag and drop it and I cannot anymore boot this PC
12:48<mdx0>the mouse execute it automatically
12:48<hthoreau>I found that to be pretty awesome. I could just backup that list and upon restoring my system, I could redownload all my packages at their updated state from the debian repository.
12:48<b17_>mdx0: been there done that, sucks.
12:49<dcosnet>everyone learns certain things the hard way ^
12:49<dcosnet>heh
12:49<hthoreau>Hence, I would like to know if apt has a similar function, so that when I download a package I use a "&&" statement and update my backup list of packages.
12:50<grawity>apt-mark showmanual
12:51<hthoreau>Thanks grawity.
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12:55<mdx0>b17_, maybe I can recover it with a live-cd?, :dd runs only for 30 seconds
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12:56<b17_>b17_: I know how it feels, ears ringing, heart palpitations and all. But if your /home was /dev/sdb1 then it really is gone.
12:57<b17_>ops, i meant mdx0
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12:57<mdx0>why the mouse did that?
12:58<mdx0>It was all one one partition
12:58<b17_>it's dd, not the mouse. dd is a bad a$$
12:58<dboles>it's not the mouse; it's the terminal (or maybe even browser) and whether it will auto execute commands in some cases, e.g. if they contain newlines
12:59<mdx0>there was a tool to recover. I have contact to a LUG maybe they can help?
13:00<b17_>mdx0: if you recreate the partition you might get some of it back, you can try something like testdisk but it's real complicated.
13:00<blast007>I'd not write anything else to the drive right now. If you have the ability/capacity, clone the entire disk to a new drive and work on the copy instead of the original.
13:00<mdx0>yeah, I tried a while ago this tool but I have only one try
13:01<mdx0>blast007, yes
13:01<dboles>i think it's still speculation that even forensic groups can get back zeroed data, so not sure about a LUG... especially after 30 seconds of writing, which could already have trashed a lot of what matters. not saying don't try - it's definitely worth a shot - but just don't get your hopes up either
13:02<mdx0>okay
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13:28<mdx0>thanx and bye
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14:59<leivhe>hey folks, newbie on channel here.
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14:59<leivhe>I have a black screen gdm3 problem after upgrading to stretch
15:00<leivhe>is this a good place to ask for help on that?
15:00<annadane>leivhe, yep
15:00<leivhe>thx
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15:01<leivhe>not sure where the problem is, logs look good, I think, but only black screen in stead of Greeter
15:01<leivhe>I have a AMD/ATI Radeon HD 6850
15:02<guardian>with stretch, is there a recommendation between apt-get, aptitude and apt?
15:02<leivhe>dmesg | grep dri|radeon seems ok
15:02<leivhe>guardian: apt-get is recommended for upgrading
15:02<leivhe>once that is done, i think aptitude is good to use if you prefer it
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15:03*leivhe reverts to telling about own problems
15:04<leivhe>journalctl -u gdm output looks ok: Greeter started, then ends with "trying to register new display" "display status changed: 2)
15:05<leivhe>I tried switching to lightdm. Got a greeter, but after entering credentials nothing works, only the wallpaper to look at
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15:07<leivhe>journalctl -xe does have some nasty looking entries
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15:08<leivhe>"gnome-session-binary: Unrecoverable failure in required component org.gnome.Shell.desktop
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15:08<leivhe>this is right after "X Error of failed request: BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation)
15:10<leivhe>but then a lot of other stuff seems to be happening which looks good
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15:16<leivhe>does anybody have an idea as to where I should look next?
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15:26<leivhe>afk few minutes
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15:46<leivhe>all is silent here :/
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15:50<dboles>since this is a support channel, that's a good thing; it means everything is working perfectly for everyone :P
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15:54<hthoreau>Not for our friend leivhe, though I wouldn't know how to help him. :/
15:55<leivhe>thanks for replying, at least, hthoreau!
15:56<leivhe>and dboles
15:56<hthoreau>Why, I have a Radeon myself, and I still haven't figured out how to make it work. But I run on a hybrid graphics card machine, so my Intel Driver is managing on its own.
15:56<dboles>hehe, ah right, i must've missed the previous stuff
15:58<leivhe>dboles: if you missed it, do you want me to repeat it?
15:59<dboles>i mean, if you want, but i don't have particular wide knowledge about fixing stuff, so probably won't have anything much to add
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15:59<leivhe>in short: I get only a black screen from gdm after upgrading to stretch
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16:17<amacater>Did you read the upgrade instructions?
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16:19<amacater>In my experience - if you need Radeon drivers / firmware - especially non-free stuff - use the expert install and a text mode install FIRST then add things like wifi firmware. If you have the choice to install using wired connectivity - do so.
16:20<amacater>Once you've installed text mode, then add firmware / non-free drivers / Radeon drivers - _THEN_ add a graphical environment using tasksel.
16:21<amacater>If you have a laptop with dual graphics - Nvidia and Intel, for example - look carefully at the instructions for bumblebee
16:22<amacater>Pretty much anything will work in bare text mode as a start.
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16:26<leivhe>thanks amacater
16:26<leivhe>I'm upgrading to stretch, so everything was fine
16:26<leivhe>I've postponed the upgrade till now because last upgrade and indeed initial install was rough going
16:27<leivhe>I'm on a standalone PC, wired connection
16:27<leivhe>and text mode and even graphics are ok
16:27<leivhe>I just tried xdm, and got a nice greeter
16:27<leivhe>but when giving my credentials I get the greeter again
16:28<leivhe>the logs say something about not finding display :0 . or not being allowed to access :0 or something
16:28<leivhe>but it's late and I need to go to bed
16:29<leivhe>so will look more into it tomoroow
16:29<leivhe>*tomorrow
16:29<leivhe>g'night folks
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19:15<RogueYun> my CPU seems to run really hot despite having a min install setup... It appears the fan never speeds up... ever :/ When it gets beyond 88 degrees the computer shuts off (I'm sure it's a safety measure). Any suggestions?
19:25<b17_>RogueYun: I saw that problem once on a desktop, cpu fan bracket was broken.
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19:27<b17_>heatsink not making full connection
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19:31<RogueYun>I'm not saying it's not possible.. but if the computer is able to detect that the processor is getting hotter, shouldn't the fan speed up at some point? As it is it seems to go at a slow steady rate... :/
19:32<annadane>fan speeds may be an instance of missing firmware
19:32<annadane>i'd take a look at dmesg | grep firmware
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19:34<b17_>i have one msi board that has fan control in bios, blocks software control, some kind of acpi conflict.
19:35<b17_>still, i think confirm it's not hardware error is a good step.
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