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---Logopened Mon Sep 18 00:00:01 2017
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01:07<elof1>Terminal does NOT work after I upgraded to stretch.
01:07<elof1>Terminal showed "Starting Terminal" at the bottom( I use Gnome Metacity) but it does not pop up
01:08<elof1>"Starting Terminal", but nothing happens after that
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01:09<elof1>Terminal is only the program I cannot use
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01:12<elof1>hello?
01:13<PC-Admin[m]>hi
01:14<elof1>Why my terminal does not start
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01:29<PC-Admin[m]>does it start when you go through the 'Activities' menu?
01:29<PC-Admin[m]>also whats gnome metacity?
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02:20<stevenm_>Hey, is there some way (maybe via packages.debian.org - although I've looked) of looking up 'standard' priority packages throughout each version of debian (since etch)
02:21<stevenm_>the only way I've been able to it so far is by installing each version and asking aptitude... and the radically more complicated way would be to download Releases.gz from all the repo's for those versions and manually process them :S
02:22<jm_>maybe dpkg-awk or dctrl-tools can help with respective Packages files
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02:33<stevenm_>jm_, ah cool thanks
02:33<jm_>stevenm_: no problem
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02:56<stevenm_>jm_, kinda like this? wget -qO- http://archive.debian.org/debian/dists/etch/main/binary-amd64/Packages.bz2|bunzip2|dpkg-awk -f=/dev/stdin "Priority:^standard.*" -- Package
02:58<jm_>stevenm_: looks OK yes
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03:39<Kir>Hi
03:39<Kir>anyone here?
03:39<Kir>I have a problem, some time ago, I installed Gnome3 desktop, then I uninstalled it
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03:40<Kir>Now, system boots up to command line, where I can log in and type startx, then I see GUI (LXDE)
03:40<Kir>when I do not type anything, it would get me to Lightdm screen but after like 1-2 minutes
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03:40<Kir>but it would then work alright
03:40<Kir>yesterday I installed lightdm-gtk-greeter
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03:41<jm_>did you check what is going on with the lightdm.service unit?
03:41<Kir>and now, I managed to log from command line and startx
03:41<Kir>but now Debian continuosly goes to Ctrl+Alt+F2 (sorry not sure - that's a workspace 2 right?)
03:41<Kir>SO
03:41<Kir>Debian goes BLACK screen with no cursor
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03:42<Kir>every like 10 seconds
03:42<Kir>I have to constantly press Ctrl+Alt+F1 to go back to my GUI
03:42<Kir>hm
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03:42<Kir>jm_ can you please tell me how to do that?
03:43<jm_>Kir: journalctl -u lightdm.service
03:43<Kir>I am currently installing KDE desktop in hopes that kdm will take place of lightdm and stay permanently
03:44<Kir>Sep 18 09:32:02 debian lightdm[4087]: pam_unix(lightdm-greeter:session): session
03:44<Kir>Sep 18 09:32:18 debian systemd[1]: lightdm.service: Main process exited, code=ex
03:44<Kir>Sep 18 09:32:18 debian systemd[1]: lightdm.service: Unit entered failed state.
03:44<Kir>Sep 18 09:32:18 debian systemd[1]: lightdm.service: Triggering OnFailure= depend
03:44<Kir>Sep 18 09:32:18 debian systemd[1]: lightdm.service: Failed to enqueue OnFailure=
03:44<Kir>Sep 18 09:32:18 debian systemd[1]: lightdm.service: Failed with result 'exit-cod
03:44<Kir>Sep 18 09:32:18 debian systemd[1]: lightdm.service: Service hold-off time over,
03:44<Kir>Sep 18 09:32:18 debian systemd[1]: Stopped Light Display Manager.
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03:45<Kir>lightdm.service: Failed to enqueue OnFailure= job: No such file or directory
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03:45<Kir>ok KDE install prompted me, I chose SDDM as default dm
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03:46<Kir>after KDe install finishes, I'll try a reboot maybe?
03:46<Kir>ooo
03:46<jm_>please use the paste site for pasting
03:46<Kir>Sorry!
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03:46<jm_>also, I noticed that lightdm logs to /var/log/lightdm/ so presumably you will find more details there
03:46<Kir>btw since I changed to SDDM in the prompt, system stopped consta-jumping into workspace 2 :D it's stable
03:49<Kir>btw, it's offtopic but. just my 2 cents - I installed a metapackage task-gnome-desktop but unfortunately uninstalling task-gnome-desktop does NOT uninstall every package that was installed
03:49<Kir>I wish it was so
03:49<jm_>correct
03:50<jm_>!remove gnome
03:50<dpkg>To remove or purge GNOME 2.x: aptitude remove ~nlibgnome ~nlibbonobo2 ~nliborbit2 ~nlibgnomeui ~nlibgnomevfs2. Use 'purge' instead of 'remove' if that's what you want (ask me about <purge>).
03:50<Kir>but oh well, next time I install a metapackage, I will copy the package list and keep it in case I want to cleanly uninstall it :)
03:50<Kir>Oh, useful command, thanks :)!
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03:50<jm_>apt/dpkg log what was installed, so you can also find it there until logs get deleted
03:53<Kir>I found the logs, thanks! very useful thing too
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03:54<Kir>now that I think about it, I'm glad I had this problem -> I learnt something hehe
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03:55<Kir>brb reboot into KDE
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04:03<Kir>I've got reminded why I didn't stick with KDE for too long lol
04:03<Kir>can't find my way around it :P
04:03<Kir>btw which one is more mature - MATE or LXDE?
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04:06<jm_>no idea, I don't use either, my brother seems to be happy with lxde
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04:13<Kir>I see
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04:39<xormor>Kir, I like MATE. I use it currently.
04:39<ondrej_g>hi, after upgrade from jessie to stretch I have a few issues I still haven'ŧ been able to fix on my own: I keep seing "no symbol table" at boot. I've tried `grub-install`, `dpkg-reconfigure grub-efi-amd64`, didn'ŧ help
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04:40<jm_>who says that?
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04:45<ondrej_g>I'd appreciate guidance as to how to debug the "no symbol table" error.
04:45<jm_>ondrej_g: start by answering the above question -- who says that?
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04:46<ondrej_g>jm_: sorry, didn't think it was aimed at me ... I think it's GRUB
04:46<jm_>ondrej_g: so you see this message when grub menu is on screen?
04:46<ondrej_g>it then waits for "press any key to continue" and then it boots normally
04:47<ondrej_g>jm_: no, after the boot option is triggered
04:47<ondrej_g>right after the message it says it is loading the linux image and initrd ... but then waits for a keypress to continue
04:47<guardian>hello, I upraded a box from wheezy to stretch (wheezy -> jessie -> stretch). Did something change with logrotate about emailing? It seems now mail subject contains .xxx.gz where xxx is the file increment
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04:48<guardian>I mean previously I would receive an email titled /var/log/nginx/access.log and now the title is /var/log/nginx/access.366.gz
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04:54<jm_>ondrej_g: maybe try to add your comments to this bug https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=841297
04:54<judd>Bug http://bugs.debian.org/841297 in grub-efi (open): «grub-efi: no symbol table, ask for key on boot»; severity: important; opened: 2016-10-19; last modified: 2017-08-04.
04:57<jm_>someone mentioned the problem goes away if they comment out "load_video"
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07:58<moein>Hi
07:59<moein>I get this error when i run gnome-tweak-tool in debian sid:
07:59<moein>(gnome-tweak-tool:7221): GLib-GIO-ERROR **: Settings schema 'org.gnome.shell' does not contain a key named 'disable-user-extensions'
07:59<jm_>try #debian-next
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09:17<daurnimator>I noticed that policy-kit finally has the new version in experimental
09:17<daurnimator>https://packages.qa.debian.org/p/policykit-1.html
09:18<daurnimator>Will that make it into buster?
09:18*daurnimator has been waiting a few years for it
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09:21<b17_>daurnimator: there's info here about how it works https://wiki.debian.org/DebianReleases
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09:22<grove>daurnimator: I guess it's highly likely that stuff that is in experimental by now will make it to unstable and testing before buster freezes, but that is far away
09:22<daurnimator>Looks like it's been in experimental since at least 2015-03-31
09:22<daurnimator>How can I look up *why* it's not in testing yet?
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09:25<grove>Plenty of versions of policykit-1 have migrated from unstable to testing since march 2015, so the answer must be "Becasue the package maintainer hasn't found it ready yet"
09:27<daurnimator>grove: no. none > 0.112 have been
09:27<daurnimator>grove: 0.112 changed the config file format.
09:27<daurnimator>debian seems to be stuck on the old version/format
09:27<daurnimator>however the new format has features I want to use
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09:29<b17_>daurnimator: which new features?
09:30<daurnimator>b17_: well, the new config format is actually javascript => I have some rules I'd like to use that are written in JS
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09:31<Naksu>wasn't policykit renamed polkit
09:32<Naksu>in 2015
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09:34<yuta>https://www.itwire.com/open-sauce/79948-linux-foundation-head-proclaims-year-of-linux-desktop-from-a-mac.html
09:34<yuta>lool
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09:50<jorge_>Hi, I installed mysql, but cannot login. The installation didn't prompt me for the root password
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09:51<jorge_>I'm using Debian 9
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10:03<thiras>jorge_, did you install mysql-client?
10:03<jorge_>Yes
10:03<thiras>also you have to run mysql_secure_installation or something like that
10:04<jorge_>I did, but when I do that I cannot enter the root password
10:04<thiras>in some cases installation create auto password and record it under your home or under etc
10:04<thiras>jorge_, any error message?
10:04<jorge_>thiras: ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)
10:05<thiras>jorge_, sudo apt purge mysql-server mysql-client --auto-remove
10:05<thiras>and re install
10:07<jorge_>Enter current password for root (enter for none):
10:07<jorge_>ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2 "No such file or directory")
10:07<jorge_>At least, now I get a different error
10:07<jorge_>I'll try as root
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10:15<jorge_>thiras, now the root user can only be used if I'm sudo
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10:15<thiras>jorge_, check the groups
10:16<jorge_>But I don't have a production environment. I want to be able to use mysql without typing su before
10:16<jorge_>What should I do?
10:16<thiras>you might have to add your user to relevant authorized group to access that
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10:19<jorge_>There is no mysql group, it seems
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10:26<navi>hello to everyone
10:26<navi>I have a problem with my NETGEAR D6000 router
10:27<navi>while I was upgrading it's firmware there was a blackout and the router got bricked
10:27<jorge_>I solved it. I had to create a regular user.
10:27<navi>if I put the power cord in only the power led is on and it stays there without changing
10:27<cruncher>navi, and it is related to debian how?
10:28<navi>in no manner but I'm trying to manually fix the router with tftp
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10:28<user>Hello debian
10:28<Lupin_III_82>hi
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10:29<navi>I've set up manually the IP of my PC and trying to ping the router but it doesn't reply
10:29<Guest4904>Live AMD 64 Strech running here
10:29<navi>is there anyone who knows how to fix or already had this annoying experience?
10:29<Guest4904>Router has DHCP?
10:30<navi>yes but the router is bricked
10:30<Guest4904>LAN Connect 2 router?
10:30<navi>I've disabled in connection settings DHCP and set up manually 192.168.1.10/255.255.255.0/192.168.1.1
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10:31<navi>I've tried with this setup and connected with cable to try and ping it
10:31<navi>but it says unreachable
10:32<Guest4904>Live a54 Strech runs on 32GB Stickout of Memory and freezes within 24 hours.
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10:32<Guest4904>Why is DHCP disabled?
10:33<navi>the router is actually bricked
10:33<navi>it doesn't work
10:33<Guest4904>Bricked router should ping ??
10:33<duclicsic>so you're not going to get ip comms with it, might as well throw it away unless you fancy getting into the internals
10:34<navi>the only way is trying to upload firmware manually with tftp
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10:34<Kir>I once had a bricked D-link router and I gave it to shop and they replaced with a new one of the same model
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10:35<Kir>But it was only like 1 month after purchase so it was still under warranty
10:35<Guest4904>Upload with tftp ok ?
10:35<grawity>some routers have a recovery/unbricking mode which supports HTTP uploads
10:35<grawity>but, same difference
10:35<Guest4904>Live a54 Strech runs on 32GB Stickout of Memory and freezes within 24 hours.
10:36<navi>it gives no signs of life anything I do
10:36<Guest4904>Kick it
10:36<navi>lol
10:36<navi>I'll change it with a new one..
10:36<navi>it's under warranty
10:36<navi>in italy we have 2 years of warranty
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10:37<carl_>hi I have Debian 9 and would like to activate the firewall, is ufw still the best to activate by default?
10:38<Guest4904>Live a54 Stretch runs on 32GB Stick out of Memory and freezes within 24 hours.
10:38<duclicsic>carl_: just my opinion, but iptables is the better choice
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10:39<carl_>duclicsic, does it have easy configs like ufw?
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10:40<duclicsic>carl_: you can build a perfectly reasonable iptables rule set for a normal host in about 4-5 lines of config
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10:42<sjzurek>if you only know how :)
10:43<duclicsic>basic example: http://paste.debian.net/986646/
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10:44<blast007>navi: some routes have a recovery mode you can trigger, after which you may be able to tftp the firmware - you'd have to read about the specific unit to see if that's possible and what method they use
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10:44<blast007>routers*
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10:46<Guest4904>Any Idea how to clear Memory ?
10:46<duclicsic>turn off computer
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10:46<Guest4904>Live stretch freezes within 5h
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10:47<Guest4904>85% of memory in use
10:47<duclicsic>Guest4904: where did you get that figure?
10:47<sjzurek>I would not rely on Live distro.
10:47<duclicsic>Guest4904: http://www.linuxatemyram.com/
10:48<Guest4904>Sysinfo
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10:50<Guest4904>Term free-m shows the same
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10:54<carl_>thanks
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10:58<petn-randall>Guest3713: That usually happens if you install a lot of things, since it all runs on a ramfs.
10:59<petn-randall>Guest3713: Any changes you make on the system, like installing packages, will get saved in memory to give you the illusion of a writeable root filesystem.
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11:51<zophyx>a while ago a person here did an 'apt-get update' tapped return through the informational messages and updated with the newest stable distro (stretch) packages into the existing installed stable version (jesse)
11:51<zophyx>???
11:51<zophyx>ouch
11:55<zophyx>i was able to properly upgrade to stretch with that franken-deb, but why does apt-get allow mixing of distros that way ?
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11:59<b17>zophyx: because otherwise there would be no way to upgrade?
12:02<b17>apt-get update shouldn't do what you said, it wouldn't install anything.
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12:07<jhutchins_wk>zophyx: There's no practical way to prevent it, and as a legacy matter it used to be a way to sort-of do your own backports with pinning. That's pretty much deprecated now, but the idea is that it's your computer, it takes an effort to break it that way, and it's up to you to decide.
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13:47<guardian>hello, I followed https://wiki.debian.org/Ext4 and enabled GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="fsck.mode=force" then I rebooted. And after having rebooted I launched # journalctl but there's no trace of fsck
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13:50<itd>guardian: Did you also execute "update-grub"?
13:50<guardian>oh yes
13:50<guardian>that's why I'm confused
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13:55<itd>guardian: Looking at #782519 - does /run/initramfs/fsck.log mention a fsck run?
13:55<judd>Bug http://bugs.debian.org/782519 in initramfs-tools (open): «initramfs-tools: please move /run/initramfs/fsck.log to /var/log»; severity: wishlist; opened: 2015-04-13; last modified: 2015-04-13.
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13:57<guardian>oh it does
13:57<guardian>it says /dev/vda1: 175184/663552 files (14.8% non-contiguous), 2113722/2633684 blocks
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13:57<guardian>+ header lines giving dates and exact command
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13:58<itd>guardian: Any recent run?
13:58<guardian>so as you can see, it's still ext3 :( how can I trust https://debian-administration.org/article/643/Migrating_a_live_system_from_ext3_to_ext4_filesystem to convert my root partition through ssh?
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13:58<guardian>itd: yeah a run from today, 0 errors
13:59<guardian>however dmesg mentions errors so I'm trying to figure out what's going on
13:59<guardian>mentions IO errors
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14:00<guardian>e.g.
14:00<guardian>5254] EXT4-fs warning (device vda1): ext4_end_bio:314: I/O error -5 writing to inode 188581 (offset 0 size 0 starting block 1091536)
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14:00<guardian>and inode 188581 is /var/lib/mysql/ib_logfile0 so it doesn't smell good at all :(
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14:15<guardian>so yeah untangling all the questions I currently have. Is it really doable and safe to remount / read only and convert it from ext3 to ext4?
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14:17<b17>guardian: after making a good backup
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14:38<guardian>yeah sure
14:38<guardian>ok gonna try that
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14:41<b17>the article you posted is pretty old, has some comments about single user mode not being able to remount ro. You are in some kind of virtual machine? Why are you getting sxt4 fs errors if the fs is ext3?
14:42<b17>i don't think i'd try any kind of thing like that on if there are any errors at all on the fs.
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14:44<guardian>"Why are you getting ext4 fs errors if the fs is ext3?"
14:44<guardian>spot on
14:44<guardian>the fs is ext3, mounted as ext3 in /etc/fstab
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14:45<guardian>it's a debian box running inside KVM and the hypervisor is nutanix (I don't control that)
14:45<guardian>I just upgraded that box from wheezy to stretch (through jessie)
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14:46<b17>i converted an ext3 once like that, didn't seem to all that beneficial.
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14:49<guardian>ok [ 25.489355] EXT4-fs (vda1): mounting ext3 file system using the ext4 subsystem
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14:50<b17>you should probably mount as ext3 and do fsck.ext3 instead of mount ext3 and run fsck.ext3
14:51<b17>or whatever, if you mount as ext4 and run fsck.ext3 i don't know... sounds pro
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14:52<b17>protential freaky
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14:55<b17>findmnt / says it's ext3 but your dmesg or syslog shows it's ext4 subsystem, whatevr that is?
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14:57<grawity>that means you're using the ext4 driver for a ext3 partition
14:57<grawity>which is very normal these days
14:58<b17>what about the warnings, ext4_end_bio, clean enough to convert to ext4?
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15:14<jhutchins_wk>b17: You run fsck on an UN-mounted partition.
15:15<b17>jhutchins_wk: that's correct, and say NO if fsck asks to proceed
15:15<jhutchins_wk>guardian: You should install and enable smartmontools.
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15:16<jhutchins_wk>guardian: If the errors are pretty consistent you might be OK, if they're increasing get a new drive NOW.
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15:18<b17>the question was about converting a / part ext3-ext4 by remounting ro
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15:21<cyril>hi every one
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15:22<cyril>Good evening everyone, I am trying to set up a bind server, I think I have configured well, I looked on whatsmydns, it Sounds that it is well propagated BUT when I look at the ip address is type 192.168. XX; I wonder if it's normal, when I do a test at home (virtual client) with the primary dns (resolv.conf) everything works, and when I remove it nothing works
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15:23<somiaj>cyril: do you have your ip mentioned in your /etc/hosts file?
15:24<somiaj>cyril: you may find dig a good tool to test things as I don't think it will read /etc/hosts and you can specify exactly which nameserver it should query independent of your systems settings.
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15:24<cyril>yes I put my ip like 127.0.0.1 , is it wrong ?
15:25<somiaj>cyril: no, I was thinking 192.168.x.x sounded like a local address, are you trying to configure a local only dns?
15:25<cyril>host -t A mydomain.tld -> works
15:25<somiaj>and I was thinking that maybe you had your local ip address in your hosts file as well.
15:25<cyril>no i'm trying to do a real dns , i've never do it .....
15:26<somiaj>do you know what the ttl on your name server is, dns clients will cache that info for a while if you have a long number there.
15:26<somiaj>well I would suggest using dig, it is a helpful tool. It could be you have everything configured correctly, but have to just wait for the changes to fully propagate (dig can help determine that)
15:27<cyril>$TTL 604800
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15:28<cyril>ok , i've changed my ip address
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15:30<somiaj>but I think to get more help you will have to give very specific details of your setup
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15:30<phil>hello
15:30<phil>i have an issue with setting a static ip
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15:31<somiaj>cyril: that looks like about 2 hours for your TTL, it may take that much time for nameservers to request the ip again as opposed to using cache.
15:31<cyril>i have static IP but it looks like local ip ....
15:32<blast007>cyril: looks like a local IP, or *is* a local IP?
15:32<somiaj>cyril: actually I lied, that TTL is like a week.
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15:32<Guest4919>when i look up an tutorrial i need to add lines in /etc/network/interfaces underneath # The primary network interface
15:32<cyril>@ IN A 192.168.0.2
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15:33<Guest4919>but there is no # The primary network interface in my /etc/network/interfaces
15:33<somiaj>cyril: that is a local ip address, using that will not help people otuside of your local network.
15:33<blast007>cyril: so you're not wanting the website exposed to the outside?
15:33<somiaj>Guest4919: put your /etc/network/interfaces file at paste.debian.net
15:33<Guest4919>oke
15:33<cyril>blast007, i(m trying to do it
15:33<blast007>cyril: you have to use a public IP then, not a private IP
15:34<blast007>do you have a static public IP?
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15:35<cyril>I've bought domain on gandi.net, and set my dns to my local server.
15:35<blast007>cyril: you're trying to host from home?
15:35<Guest4919>https://paste.debian.net/986691/
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15:37<cyril>https://paste.debian.net/986692/
15:38<blast007>cyril: those will never work from outside your network
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15:38<cyril>ok , so i have replace local ip to public ip ?
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15:41<somiaj>Guest4919: you have nothing in your interfaces file to setup a static ip address? Do you have anything in your /etc/network/interfaces.d/ directory? Also are you sure you are using the interfaces and not something like network-manager to manage your network?
15:42<somiaj>cyril: you need an ip that the public can access to be able to access it from outside your network.
15:42<somiaj>cyril: you may also need to configure your router to forward port 80 to the correct machine
15:43<Guest4919>somaj i do use network manager
15:44<somiaj>Guest4919: then ignore the advise about the interfaces file, and configure network-manager to set your ip as static
15:44<blast007>cyril: if your ISP doesn't give you a static IP, that's not going to be as reliable. and if it's a residential ISP, odds are is that they block port 80 and 443, and similar
15:44<Guest4919>somiaj: oke thanks
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15:44<senac>yhxuhc
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15:44<desord3n>MEDINA TEM CANAL NO YOUTUBE
15:45<senac>Malcon perdeu o cabaço ontem
15:46<annadane>!es
15:46<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
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15:46<somiaj>Please use english in this channel, also looks like you are talking to yourself.
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15:46<senac_>kkk
15:46<desord3n>SALVEEE
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15:46<desord3n>HI
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15:47<desord3n>MY NAME IS MEDINA YOUTUBE
15:47<annadane>good grief
15:47-!-mode/#debian [+o somiaj] by ChanServ
15:47-!-mode/#debian [+q *!*@186.239.253.11] by somiaj
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15:47<annadane>thank you
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16:06<cyril>blast007, i've changed all modifications and it works fine, Thanks a lot for your help
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16:12<blast007>cyril: cool :)
16:14<cyril>it was so easy :'(
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18:52<hthoreau>Hi
18:52<scott_>hi
18:53<hthoreau>I'm trying to learn how to make a debian package, following the instructions provided by this introduction: https://wiki.debian.org/Packaging/Intro?action=show&redirect=IntroDebianPackaging
18:54<hthoreau>I guess that, for the sake of simplicity, the author uses as an example a package that does not need to have its .tar.gz file renamed in order to fit with debian's naming conventions.
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18:55<hthoreau>This isn't the case with the package I've picked. Hence, I've renamed the tarball. But, upon extraction, it retained the name it had before.
18:56<hthoreau>How do I tell tar to, when extracting, name the extracted folder as I would have it?
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19:09<hthoreau>Got it. xD
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19:37<grampsbg>Hello, I'm using Debian 9 and Virtual Machine Manager 1.4.0 with KVM and when I try start installing any VM from ISO I have error 'CPU is not compatable with CPU of the host'. Do you know what to do to correct that? Thank you!
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20:09<sney>grampsbg: at a guess, virtualization extensions are disabled in your bios
20:10<sney>(vt-x or similar)
20:13<grampsbg>sney: I just changed CPU configuration to CPU clean configuration and it worked. I have previously turned BIOS settings for virtualization but it was not working. Now it's ok.
20:15<Asara>Hey all, am tracking testing, ran a dist-upgrade and updated qemu-efi:amd64 (which got upgraded to qemu-efi-aarch64:amd64)
20:15<Asara>and now I can't start my windows VM that I have pci passthrough set up with
20:15<Asara>nothing showing up in dmesg/kern.log, nor the libvirtd service
20:16<Asara>any suggestions as to how I should debug this?
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21:01<legion>sup
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21:17<somiaj>Asara: #debian-next maybe of more help? Also check /usr/share/doc on the changelog or news files and see if they mention any tips for migration.
21:19<tencendur>I'm testing a stretch-freedom_box (fbx). DHCP from my router\server provides the interface IP4 address\config to the fbx. I have dhcpd issuing "option interface-mtu 1492;" because I'm using PPPoE dsl and all nodes on the network should be config'd for mtu 1492.
21:20<tencendur>Problem is, the fbx box continually resets (every 6 seconds) its' interface, toggling between 1500 and 1492 mtu.
21:20<somiaj>tencendur: what you are using to configure your network?
21:21<tencendur>dhcpd
21:21<somiaj>dhcpcd isn't a network configuration tool, it is only dhcp
21:21<tencendur>I think the freedom box uses NetworkManager.
21:21<somiaj>but dhcpcd is a daemon, it will try to keep the lease in line with the router. Are you using say interfaces file, network-manager or some other tool. Or manually configuring your network and running dhcpcd?
21:22<somiaj>and when you change your mtu, what do you do to change your mtu?
21:22<somiaj>To me it sounds like you are mixing tools, and one of them is overriding the other. I would just stick with network manager
21:23<tencendur>I was leveraging the dhcpd server to set the mtu throughout the network. That way I don't have to touch all the other machines.
21:24<tencendur>The only box that seems to have a problem is the freedombox, which is using Networkmanager.
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21:26<b17_>tencendur: NM might not always follow dhclient.conf but it put a file somewhere around /var/lib/networkmanager or so that might confirm if it's setting the mtu correctly.
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21:30<tencendur>the "messages" log file shows the "every 6 second" change in the interface.
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21:35<tencendur>the /var/lib/networkmanager/dhclient-<iface>.conf lists "also request interface-mtu;"
21:38<tencendur>the /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf also requests "interface-mtu".
21:40<b17_>the advice above was "I would just stick with network manager" sounds good.
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21:47<tencendur>I haven't chosen one or the other or either. I just installed (console) stretch, and then the freedombox package. Looks like maybe there's a bug in the fbx setup scripts that is masked for mtu 1500 networks.
21:48<somiaj>you can check the bts for known bugs or file one. Though with stretch it may not be fixed, but debian does like to have record of bugs.
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21:50<tencendur>I posted this on #freedombox before posting here. Awaiting response. Thx.
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21:53<b17_>I never had a need to set mtu, but wouldn't request interface-mtu query the physical device? You can set it in nm-connection-editor
21:56<tencendur>request interface-mtu is a dhcp directive that tells the dhcp client to request the mtu size for the interface in addition to IP address, etc, etc. dhcp-server can configure many, many things on the dhcp-client interface
21:57<b17_>maybe nm is setting it back, stranger things been known to happen.
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22:00<tencendur>I think you're right, but the weird thing is, i can't figure out where the 1500 is coming from. Both NM and dhclient are configured to request mtu from dhcpd and it is set to return 1492.
22:01<b17_>well by default nm is set to automatic on my jessie setup here
22:01<b17_>i don;t know what that means though
22:05<b17_>tencendur: freedombox sounds interesting hope you get it working right.
22:07<alejandro>378/5000
22:07<alejandro>Hello, I have a problem to open synaptic in graphical mode, when trying to console it gives me a message that says gtk-warning ** can not open display 0.0, investigating found that if I write in the console xhost + I can open the programs in graphical mode, but I can not find how to fix it definitively and not have to write every time xhost +
22:07<alejandro>Can someone help me with this?
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22:12<b17_>alejandro: why run it from console?
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22:15<alejandro>because it does not run in graphical mode, when giving the command xhost + it is not necessary to try it by console, but to know that it happened use sudo synaptic and it answered Gtk-WARNING **: can not open display:: 0.0, which I still do not achieve is to make xhost + work from the start
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22:24<b17_>alejandro: ok, synaptic won't run from the menu, but sudo synaptic won't tell you why the menu command fails.
22:26<alejandro>b17_: true, sudo synaptic tells me that graphical mode fails, I fix it by doing xhost + and then if it opens from the menu
22:27<b17_>/usr/share/applications/synaptic.desktop will have the menu command in it
22:27<b17_>run that command from terminal and see what it says
22:28<alejandro>124/5000
22:28<alejandro>sudo synaptic does not work because it does not open the program, it only tells me that the fault is gtk-warning ** can not open display 0.0
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22:29<b17_>yes sudo runs as root and root can't access the display
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22:30<b17_>i don;t use sudo but there's probably more in the man page, maybe try su -l instead of sudo?
22:30<alejandro>.... /usr/share/applications/synaptic.desktop: command not found
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22:31<b17_>look in it for the exec= line like grep exec /usr/share/applications/synaptic.desktop
22:32<b17_>might be a cap grep Exec
22:32<alejandro>The thing is this: if I write xhost + on the console I can run from the menu and work the graphic part, what I need is to know how to make that order be loaded at startup and solve the problem.
22:33<b17_>make or edit a .desktop file for it
22:34<b17_>whatever desktop you're on has an autostart somewhere
22:34<alejandro>I do not understand that. what is grep exec?
22:35<b17_>grep is a way to search a file, Exec is what to search for and /usr/share/applications/synaptic.desktop is the file to search
22:36<b17_>so if you put it all together it shoudl spit out what the menu command is for your ver of synaptic
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22:37<alejandro>should I then write to the console grep exec = / usr / share / applications / synaptic.desktop?
22:37<b17_>grep Exec /usr/share/applications/synaptic.desktop
22:38<alejandro>say Exec=synaptic-pkexec
22:39<b17_>yeah ok now try the synaptic-pkexec and see what the real problem is
22:39<b17_>xhost is pretty cool i never tried that, might work for you but I don;t know if it's good.
22:40<b17_>especially just running it wide open like that
22:41<b17_>maybe you should just add your user with xhost
22:41<b17_>or maybe root? heck don;t know, better to just fix synaptic
22:41<alejandro>https://paste.gnome.org/ptbg9hoak
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22:42<b17_>same thing, does it have a man page? man synaptic-pkexec
22:43<alejandro>I am the only user of my team, so I really do not know if it is relevant to put a user
22:43<alejandro>alejandro@aldo:~$ man synaptic-pkexec
22:43<alejandro>No manual entry for synaptic-pkexec
22:43<alejandro>See 'man 7 undocumented' for help when manual pages are not available.
22:44<alejandro>team=pc
22:45<b17_>yeah that figures. do you still have gksudo on that thing?
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22:52<alejandro>alejandro@aldo:~$ gksu
22:52<alejandro>Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"
22:52<alejandro>/usr/bin/xauth: file /home/alejandro/.Xauthority does not exist
22:52<alejandro>/usr/bin/xauth: file /home/alejandro/.Xauthority does not exist
22:52<b17_>aha, why you rm the .Xauthority?
22:53<b17_>magic cookie
22:53<alejandro>i dont remove anything
22:54<alejandro>i instal yesterday this debian
22:55<b17_>it's ok restart X will probably fix it
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22:56<b17_>synaptic has a bug though, don;t add or remove sources with it ok?
22:56<alejandro>how is it done?
22:56<b17_>restart X just reboot unless your login screen has 'restart z server' on it
22:58<alejandro>I do not know, after putting xhost + it works, I do not know if it gives errors, they just had to, as I told you install yesterday
22:59<b17_>well, every install has a little setup, sounds like you doing ok, what is it gnome or xfce?
23:01<alejandro>have restarted several times and it does not change the situation. this is so from my first installation and I do not give with the answer.
23:01<alejandro>debian 9 gnome
23:01<b17_>and the command ls /home/alejandro/.Xauthority really says not found?
23:02<alejandro>https://paste.gnome.org/pk6c0ntnc
23:03<b17_>yeah you got to have that
23:03<b17_>maybe xhost removed it, don't know.
23:04<b17_>never seen .ICEauthority in home myself
23:04<b17_>i bet you running some debian knockoff right?
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23:09<alejandro>I do not even know it is debian knockoff right
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23:10<b17_>knockoff is like ubuntu, parrot, kali, or others.
23:11<somiaj>I belive alejandro said they were running stretch. I'm unsure why you are having such issues. Things work fine here, seems like you have some strange configuration/goal.
23:13<alejandro>works after typing xhost + from otromode requests password, but does not open graph window
23:15<alejandro>Install from an oficial iso for network, without anything special that I know, all of the most basic because they start with debian
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23:17<alejandro> debian-9.1.0-amd64-netinst.iso.torrent
23:18<b17_>alejandro: Just a suggestion, what if you log out of X, delete the .ICEauthority in /home/alejandro and reboot the system?
23:18<alejandro>https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/bt-cd/
23:19<b17_>maybe a rename would be better just in case, use mv
23:19<alejandro>I have no idea, what happens or how it is done
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23:20<b17_>it will be fun i promise
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23:22<alejandro>mv .ICEauthority .ICEauthorityviejo ?
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23:23<alejandro>How do I handle this by console? I do not know anything about that
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23:24<alejandro>if something goes wrong I will have to install from 0 because I do not know how to recover the system
23:24<b17_>it's easy take your time, you can practice 'touch foo' mv foo fooviejo and stuff like that
23:25<b17_>nah don't be negative, it's ok debian is pretty robust
23:25<alejandro>ok
23:25<alejandro>I will trust you
23:26<alejandro>https://paste.gnome.org/pjc9a91y7
23:27<b17_>wow you're good if you reboot there might be a .Xauthority
23:27<alejandro>now restart everything? I will get lost from here
23:28<alejandro>will comback
23:28<somiaj>maybe just to check things, what is the output of ls -ld $HOME
23:28<b17_>well you might be able to log out, and look for some widget to restartX at the login but i dont know if gnome has that
23:28<somiaj>though I'm sure it is fine, the mv command worked.
23:29<somiaj>b17_: I wonder if it is because gnome might be using waylend on stretch why there is no xorg, xorg isn't running
23:30<somiaj>and i'm unsure how to do things with waylend, but policykit should be haneling permissions. gnome shouldn't need sudo or gksu to get root permsions with certain apps.
23:30<b17_>hmm yeh probably... didnt they fix all the tools to use .ICEauthority?
23:30<alejandro>drwxr-xr-x 18 alejandro alejandro 4096 sep 18 22:26 /home/alejandro
23:30<b17_>his pkexec is broke
23:30<somiaj>https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=818366
23:31<judd>Bug http://bugs.debian.org/818366 in synaptic (open): «synaptic: fails to start under Wayland»; severity: important; opened: 2016-03-16; last modified: 2017-09-08.
23:31<b17_>only a year and a half old wow that's fresh
23:31<somiaj>sorry I didn't think of this earlier, but you are probably runing waylend alejandro, and that is why you have to wrap it in xhost. That bug report has info about this.
23:32<somiaj>well the bug is about the freeze of stretch.
23:32<b17_>not release critical i guess
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23:33<b17_>somiaj: what about the xhost is it safe?
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23:34<alejandro>Dont work
23:34<alejandro>https://paste.gnome.org/pffuzm36y
23:34<somiaj>I think xnest or something like that would be better
23:34<somiaj>alejandro: I think the issue is synamptic just doesn't correctly work to gain root privlages under waylend. You could just use apt or aptitude (it has a console ui) to install/remove packages.
23:35<somiaj>to run synamptic you'll have to configure your system to use xorg over waylend it seems (or maybe Xwaylend) but i'm unsure on the details on waylend. I haven't used it.
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23:37<alejandro>somiaj, b17_, if you do not know much less me ..... well, I think I will continue investigating tomorrow and I will return to tell you, or ask for more help. Thank you very much to all.
23:37<somiaj>it looks like in stretch you shoudln't be using waylend as default (due to bugs like this) but there is a way to select what you use
23:37<b17_>i don't have xnest, but if the app runs after xhost there should be a way to create the right .desktop file
23:37<somiaj>alejandro: do you auto login or do you have a login screen when you boot up?
23:38<b17_>alejandro: personally i know much less than everybody, don;t give up okay?
23:38<somiaj>I think when you login with gdm, you should have a button somewhere to select your xsession, You should select and xorg session and not a waylend session, then things should work as expected.
23:38<alejandro>have a boot screen
23:39<somiaj>so when you are loging in, look at the sessions avaialbe, try to select the one that is for xorg, not waylend.
23:40<somiaj>but if you continue to use waylend, you'll have to accept you can't easily use synamptic as a compermise and find alternatives.
23:40<alejandro>I have the audacity of the ignorant, I do not worry much, for now I know that xhost + me funcona and I will continue investigating
23:41<somiaj>Seems to me it is most likely waylend is the cause. waylend is the future, but many tools are still use to xorg.
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23:43<b17_>they said win95 was the future
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23:44<alejandro>and it was, for a while. See you friends
23:44<alejandro>thanks
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