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---Logopened Thu Sep 21 00:00:06 2017
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00:00<Arcade>gnome still is the default package just using gnome 3
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00:01<Arcade>if you are still looking for gnome 2 UI i would look at mate
00:01<elof_>xfce v.s. mate which is suitable for an old pc
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00:02<Arcade>xfce seems to me more lighter weight
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00:03<elof_>I am installing xfce on tasksel, will it remove gnome automatically?
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00:04<Arcade>no
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00:04<elof_>remove it by using apt-get remove?
00:05<Arcade>tasksel remove <package>
00:05<elof_>got it
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00:07<Arcade>your welcome to try both xfce or mate. Personally xfce and mate share some of gnome's desktop so in some case I see a security risk rolling back just me
00:08<Arcade>old*
00:09<elof_>Is tasksel install a valid command?
00:10<Arcade>yes assuming you give a package to install
00:10<Arcade>tasksel install <package>
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00:12<elof_>Is Linux terminal command = Bash command?
00:13<somiaj>bash is most likely the shell your are using, so yes.
00:13<somiaj>but you can use other shells besides bash.
00:16<elof_>Can I have more than one shell?
00:16<elof_>on the same system
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00:17<orb>it's a shell game, really
00:17<elof_>what do you mean
00:17<orb>life.
00:18<orb>you try to choose a wife, for example.
00:18<somiaj>elof_: you already do, you have at least bash and dash (though you most likely don't want to run dash, this is for system scripts and doens't have the fancy features of bash)
00:18<somiaj>elof_: you can install other shells, but sticking with bash if your new will be simplest.
00:19<elof_>dash?
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00:20<annadane>also comes with smash and crash
00:20<somiaj>elof_: it is the debian shell which is used for the system scripts. It is smaller and better for system stuff, not as good for the user though.
00:21<elof_>command like shutdown and reboot are bash or dash?
00:21<somiaj>neither
00:21<elof_>It is?
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00:22<somiaj>shutdow/reboot are their own commands (binaries).
00:22<somiaj>The shell is just the piece that you use to run other programs
00:22<elof_>like apt?
00:22<somiaj>same thing, that is another program on your machine.
00:23<elof_>I recently start to read bash manual
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00:25<elof_>I hope I won't mix them up
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00:30<elof_>I am using Polari, is it possible to install Polari individually?
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00:30<elof_>I am going to uninstall Gnome after my xfce is installed
00:32<Arcade>yeah polari can be its own
00:32<Arcade>it may have some gnome dep
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00:41<elof_>I was unable to select xfce on log in screen
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00:48<elof_>I have have tried to unisntall gdm3 by using apt-get remove gdm3, tasksel remove gdm3 and deselect "Debian Desktop Environment" but the current DE is the latest gnome DE....
00:49<elof_>Did I remove it in wrong way?
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00:55<elof_>I reboot several times, still not the Xfce I installed on tasksel
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01:03<elof_>deselect Debian DE, select Xfce, still log in as the latest DE
01:03<elof_>don't understand
01:03<elof_>@somiaj
01:04<elof_>I really don't understand why still log in as the latest Desktop Environment while the gdm3 has been uninstalled
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01:05<somiaj>gdm3 is not a desktop enviroment, that is mearnly what you can log in, you need to change which session you log into.
01:05<elof_>the log in screen is xfce, terminal is called xfce terminal
01:06<elof_>what command should I use?
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01:08<jm_>also, deselecting debian DE in tasksel should not remove it AFAIK
01:08<elof_>How to remove it completely
01:09<jm_>are you sure you want to do that?
01:09<elof_>I want xfce DE as my only DE
01:10<jm_>!remove gnome
01:10<dpkg>To remove or purge GNOME 2.x: aptitude remove ~nlibgnome ~nlibbonobo2 ~nliborbit2 ~nlibgnomeui ~nlibgnomevfs2. Use 'purge' instead of 'remove' if that's what you want (ask me about <purge>).
01:10<jm_>maybe it doesn't quite work with stretch, but you get the idea
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01:10<elof_>aptitude purge them?
01:10<elof_>I am on strech
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01:12<jm_>use whichever apt tool you normally use and tell it to remove those packages (some package names might be slightly different in stretch)
01:12<jm_>bleh
01:12<annadane>apt works just as well for things like "remove"
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02:04<elof1>I reinstalled debian
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02:06<elof2>I could change the theme on log in screen
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02:11<qwerty>привет
02:11<qwerty>тут русские есть?
02:11<qwerty>русскоговорящие?
02:11<qwerty>ау
02:11<qwerty>люди
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02:15<jm_>!tell qwerty -about ru
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03:43<guardian>hello, I'm still trying to troubleshoot logrotate
03:43<guardian>I created /tmp/test.conf: http://paste.debian.net/987063/
03:44<guardian>In the background, I have while :; do date >> /tmp/log/test.log; sleep 2; done that writes the current date/time in /tmp/log/test.log
03:45<guardian>And now when I invoke: rm /tmp/logrotate.status && logrotate -vf -s /tmp/logrotate.status /tmp/test.conf
03:45<guardian>I get the following output: http://paste.debian.net/987064/
03:46<guardian>what works: logrotate is rotating the logs. When I vim any of /tmp/log/test.log, /tmp/log/test.log.1 or /tmp/log/test.log.2.gz I can see the logged date/times
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03:46<guardian>The /tmp/log/test.log.2.gz file is not corrupted, Vim can gunzip it and display it
03:46<guardian>BUT the email I receive for /tmp/log/test.log.3.gz is all scrambled :( While it should have been sent uncompressed
03:46<guardian>any idea please?
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03:48<jm_>this? https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=854216
03:48<judd>Bug http://bugs.debian.org/854216 in logrotate (open): «logrotate sends compressed logs by email»; severity: normal; opened: 2017-02-05; last modified: 2017-02-05.
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03:49<jm_>and very old one, I suppose this is the real problem https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=116653
03:50<jm_>unless that is no longer an issue
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03:57<guardian>hmm there's no solution in there
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03:58<jm_>no but it seems you're not the only who ran into that
04:00<guardian>also, I wrote a mail.sh shim to see what's being sent
04:00<guardian>when I tell logrotate -m /tmp/mail.sh it's called with -s logname recipient
04:00<guardian>the doc is unclear -s is going to be given
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04:01<guardian>it says the script should accept 2 arguments
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04:03<guardian>https://github.com/logrotate/logrotate/blob/master/logrotate.c#L796
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04:17<guardian>I'm a bit stuck at that point :/
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04:17<jm_>obviously another bug
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04:25<guardian>I'm surprised it's rarely happening but I have a 100% repro
04:26<guardian>well I'm surprised other stretch users are not hitting this
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04:37<guardian>jm_: https://github.com/logrotate/logrotate/issues/151 in case the matter interests you
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04:40<guardian>there must but something around logrotate that makes it fail
04:41<jm_>should be able to find the offending commit using git bisect ;)
04:43<guardian>sure will do later
04:43<guardian>still... that must be a rare combination of things installed otherwise many more people would have noticed
04:44<jm_>or maybe not many people still use logrotate
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04:49<guardian>then what?
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05:09<nik>hi there i am using mx linux
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05:10<Guest5103>and i am very content with this mepix/antix
05:10<Guest5103>combination
05:10<Guest5103>but somehow i have more trouble with fdisk
05:10<Guest5103>then gparted
05:10<Guest5103>and if i have problems with gparted
05:10<petn-randall>Guest5103: You'll have to ask in their support channel, this one is for Debian only.
05:10<Guest5103>i had to download gnome-disk-utility
05:10<Guest5103>oh
05:11<Guest5103>but mx is based on debian..?
05:11<petn-randall>!based on
05:11<dpkg>Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare http://futurist.se/gldt/). #debian only supports Debian and pure <blend>s; please respect our choice to volunteer here to help Debian users. Support for other distributions is off-topic on #debian, even if your own distro's channel is clueless or non-existent.
05:11<Guest5103>i men i have installed deb packages
05:11<petn-randall>!mepis
05:11<dpkg>MEPIS is a live CD distribution based on Debian. SimplyMEPIS 11 (based on Squeeze), SimplyMEPIS 8.0/8.5 (based on Lenny) and antiX (based on <testing>) are not supported in #debian. http://www.mepis.org/ #mepis on irc.freenode.net. See also <based on debian>.
05:12<petn-randall>Guest5103: Maybe this ^^^ is the right channel? I don't know if MX Linux is a continuation or a new project.
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05:13<Guest5103>as i have seen it is a new/continuation project
05:13<Guest5103>with all due rescpect
05:13<Guest5103>to the debian clean users
05:13<Guest5103>i dont think that they dont have their forum/they do and i am sure they are not clueless
05:14<Guest5103>so thank you for your help ant time
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05:29<Guest5104>hallo
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05:43<laerus>hey! anyone else can reproduce this http://paste.debian.net/987079 with python3.5 on debian-stretch, doesn't seem to be an issue with python3.6,
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05:45<laerus>the bug was solved in https://bugs.python.org/issue14173 and it didnt affect python3.5 back then, maybe i should open an issue on debian tracker?
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06:29<Igor2>hi; I'd like to draw a graph of a few packages of a specific debian repository, using "apt-cache dotty"; this repository is not on my system's source.list, and I wouldn't like to add it (there's even an architecture mismatch); I tried to run apt-get update with a set of -o Dir::.... but I have no luck so far
06:30<Igor2>is there a doc/howto out there doing anything similar?
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07:54<b17>what is /var/log/apt/eipp.log.xz ?
07:55<annadane>i would like to know the same thing
07:55<jm_>external installation planer if that helps any :P
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07:57<b17>looks like i downloaded 40gb yesterday, but i never did.
07:57<b17>i have disabled the apt-daily systemd stuff
07:57<annadane>is it *supposed* to be in debian?
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08:01<annadane>also, not to be a pita but can anyone help me help this other person in #debian-next? i'm completely in over my head
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08:04<annadane>never mind, i'm apparently an idiot
08:04<annadane>back to eipp.log.xz :D
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08:14<b17>nothing to get back to, no info.
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08:14<annadane>nobody knows what it actually does?
08:15<b17>found a redhat link about 'electronic invoice presentment and payment'
08:15<annadane>it wasn't there a few weeks ago
08:15<annadane>or in previous debian installs
08:16<b17>heck i'm running a barebones fluxbox i don't have anything like that installed.
08:17<b17>something snagged about 40mb of something yesterday though...
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08:18<b17>well, minus my normal usage it would be about 33 megs over my average
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08:22<b17>/var/cache/apt/archives/partial has the same filedate as the eipp.log.xz
08:22<DanieleV[m]>hey guy, how to uninstall kde on stretch?
08:22<annadane>i would be amazed if it's not mentioned in documentation anywhere
08:23<annadane>@ b17, not daniele
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08:25<DanieleV[m]>I have tried with tasksel but it doesnt uninstall kde
08:26<annadane>DanieleV[m], did you choose kde in the installer?
08:27<annadane>DanieleV[m], dpkg-query -l 'kde*'
08:27<annadane>and then apt remove or apt purge whichever one you have installed
08:29<annadane>what the hell. what is this stupid thing?
08:29<annadane>why is it impossible to find any information about it
08:30<DanieleV[m]>I installed it via tasksel
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08:30<annadane>https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/linux.debian.bugs.dist/3c6Wh5mP1rw/vKIylMTLBwAJ "This file can be created by the latest version of apt"
08:31<Igor2>(so I guess I will need to take a hammer: LD_PRELOAD)
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08:32<annadane>DanieleV[m], did you try tasksel --remove kde
08:32<annadane>or whatever the name of it is that you installed, kde-full or whatever
08:32<DanieleV[m]>I have installed plenty of packages
08:32<DanieleV[m]>kde related
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08:33<DanieleV[m]>mmm no I'll try
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08:33<petn-randall>annadane: https://david.kalnischkies.de/blog/2016/week_9_merging_EIPP/
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08:34<DanieleV[m]>annadane: No is not working
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08:35<annadane>ahh
08:35<annadane>thanks, petn-randall
08:35<annadane>DanieleV[m], how is it not working?
08:36<annadane>right, it makes sense that it's new, being on sid; though i don't know about b17 if they're on stable
08:37<DanieleV[m]>if I type tasksel remove kde it give me no output and kde is still there
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08:37<annadane>tasksel --remove kde
08:37<annadane>note the --
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08:38<DanieleV[m]>I've tried but it says that is an invalid options
08:38<DanieleV[m]>with the --
08:39*DanieleV[m] sent a long message: DanieleV[m]_2017-09-21_12:39:13.txt <https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/qbhPzjjSHXozFolThGVluHFM>
08:39<annadane>tasksel --remove kde-desktop?
08:39<annadane>i should stop guessing but see if that works
08:40<DanieleV[m]>I reckon is the --remove option that is not accepted
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08:43<annadane>sorry for not being helpful
08:44<DanieleV[m]>mmm ok, enough for today, I go to bed. Thank you anyway!
08:44<DanieleV[m]>no worries mate!
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08:44<annadane>really basic question i *should* know the answer to >_>
08:45<b17>i never use tasksel, but it has a curses interface. Should be pretty easy.
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08:45<annadane>blah
08:46<annadane>i just got lazy and didn't look it up, i'm really tired
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08:46<annadane>shouldn't give tech support when i'm like this
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08:47<b17>man pages never get tired, doesn't tasksel use the task-blah-desktop format for everythign?
08:48<annadane>it's possible
08:48<annadane>yep
08:48<annadane>it's all right there in the fucking man page
08:48<annadane>DanieleV[m], tasksel --list-tasks and tasksel remove <task>
08:49<annadane>DanieleV[m], i selected kde during the install which is tasksel, and mine is kde-desktop
08:49<annadane>DanieleV[m], so tasksel remove kde-desktop
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08:50<annadane>or purge if you want to remove the configuration files as well
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08:51<annadane>hmm, actually purge may not actually work with tasksel
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08:59<swing>Hi everyone! I updated to strech yesterday and noticed Firefox is no longer responding to my volume buttons on my mouse, anyone knows how to solve this?
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09:04<swing>on jessie I was able to control about every volume with my mouse (VLC, rhythmbox, firefox, etc.) and
09:04<b17>swing: did you try websearch for firefox volume buttons? maybe they made it a plugin, lot of that going on.
09:05<swing>a plugin? really? I'll search about this, and get back to you. Thanks
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09:07<b17>swing: sometimes i search for debian <your mouse name> too, sometimes lot of help like that
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09:09<petn-randall>swing: Sounds like you have to find out how to make your mouse trigger those events again. It doesn't sound specific to firefox.
09:10<swing>b17: I tried that, but without succes... I guess it's normal since everything was fine when I was running 8.7.
09:11<swing>petn-randall: I checked the infos my mouse was sending,and that didn't change. The problem might be pulseaudio...
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09:14<swing>oh and when I upgraded, for the first time I didn't clean my /home. Is that a mistake? I was thinking about some conf file getting messed up between jessie and stretch...
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09:15<b17>swing: you could create a new user and find out.
09:16<swing>b17: clever! I'll try that!
09:17<petn-randall>swing: Not cleaning /home is probably what most people upgrading do, so I expect it to work fine. Some programs might upgrade config files in /home, so you might not be able to *downgrade*.
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09:23<swing>from what I understand, pulseaudio might be responsible for these troubles I'm having, I'll try find more on the web. Thanks guys.
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09:24<bob_>swing - pulseaudio can cause problems sometime, the gui program pavucontrol does sometimes help
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09:26<swing>bob_: yep, I do have pavucontrol, it helps me finding wich volume is moving.
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09:29<swing>damn, I just realized that back on jessie, my volume buttons changed the Master volume, now it's changing the app volume. This might be my solution ! I'll go and try change this. thank you for your help, guys
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09:31<b17>sward: i've noticed vlc seems to capture the global keys, there used to be a settng for this years ago but it seems to be gone now.
09:32<b17>oops, guess swing left
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09:52<Aleksej>Hi! Does anyone know when will chromium be updated to version 61 in stable-security? It is already 2 weeks after the release, and the one in Debian is still version 60. Is it unmaintained or not supported?
09:55<petn-randall>Aleksej: It's still maintained, it just doesn't get feature updates. So any security updates will be backported to the version available in stretch.
09:55<petn-randall>This isn't special to chromium; all packages in stable are updated like that.
09:55<sjzurek>sid ftw!
09:55<blast007>!stable
09:55<dpkg>[stable] The status of a Debian release when no packages will be added or version-bumped, and changes will only fix security issues and critical bugs. Packages can be removed in rare circumstances. The current stable version of Debian is Stretch (9.0); ask me about <releases>. Security bugs are fixed in stable by backporting the fix to the stable version (ask me about <security backports>). https://wiki.debian.org/DebianStable
09:56<Aleksej>petn-randall: Is it? Chromium used to be updated to the latest version, it was mentioned in the release notes for jessie at least.
09:56<rudi_s>petn-randall: That's not quite true for chromium.
09:56<rudi_s>*which is always updated to the latest stable version as backporting is too difficult for a browser.
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09:57<Aleksej>petn-randall: See https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/release-notes/ch-information.en.html#browser-security
09:57<sjzurek>Google Chrome 61.0.3163.91 on sid atm.
09:57<petn-randall>sjzurek: Chrome isn't in sid.
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09:58<sjzurek>:P
09:59<petn-randall>Aleksej: Indeed, browsers are a bit of an exception. Firefox gets ESR updates, too. Is there a specific CVE that is unfixed in stable?
10:00<Aleksej>Well, every CVE which was fixed in version 61. See https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/source-package/chromium-browser
10:01<sjzurek>tbh, stretch and sid have the same build for chromium
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10:03<Aleksej>TBH chromium was always a bit slow to be updated in Debian, but never for so long, AFAIR.
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10:19<jimpop>Chrome has better font support/looks than Chromium
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10:20<XXXXXxxxxxxx>hey guys
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10:23<Aleksej>jimpop: Chromium is built with native (system) freetype library in Debian, so in theory it should look just like the rest of the system.
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10:40<football>Hello, Can someone guide me with on running nVidia driver on Debian Stretch 9.1 on Thinkpad P50. I don't need bumblebee. I want to connect to external monitors.
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10:47<itd>dpkg: nvidia
10:47<dpkg>Where possible, Nvidia graphic processing units are supported using the open source <nouveau> driver on Debian systems by default. To install the proprietary "nvidia" driver, see https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers or ask me about <nvidia dkms>, <nvidia legacy>; installing this directly from nvidia.com (i.e. with <nvidia-installer>) is _not_ supported in #debian, please go to #nvidia on irc.freenode.net.
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10:48<itd>dpkg: bumblebee
10:48<dpkg>The Bumblebee project aims to provide support for the Nvidia Optimus GPU switching technology on Linux systems. GeForce 400M (4xxM) and later mobile GPU series are Optimus-enabled; if «lspci -nn | grep '\''[030[02]\]'» returns two lines, the laptop likely uses Optimus. Packaged for Debian <jessie> and <wheezy-backports>. http://wiki.debian.org/Bumblebee http://bumblebee-project.org/ #bumblebee on irc.freenode.net.
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10:49<itd>football: I am not sure if you have a choice (regarding bumblebee). Either you have Optimus, then you have to use it, or you do not.
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10:50<football>Thank you. It seems to be an optimus supported architecture. conversations on internet forums say that bumblebee with proprietary nvidia driver doesn't allow flicker free external monitors
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10:53<football>Thank you itd. I used nvidia driver without bumblebee on openSUSE Leap 42.2 after subsequent updates i could no longer use the hybrid graphics. i had to use only the discrete graphics. i used the debian wiki page ofr nvidiaGraphicsDriver and for the Bumblebee... both didn't work
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10:56<itd>football: "didn't work"?
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10:59<football>yes itd... the nvidia-driver pkg allowed only the discrete graphics - hybrid graphics gave a crashed screen. so i did resinstall and tried bumblebee-nvidia which didn't allow external monitor
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11:12<football>sorry itd. i may have missed your replies if any. i got disconnected
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11:17<itd>football: No problem. (I didn't reply. ;)) I have no idea what your problem might be. Nevertheless try giving more details, maybe someone else can help you. :)
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11:18<football>thanks for you time. itd.... adios
11:18<itd>football: E.g.: how did the "crashed screen" look like? Anything in /var/log/Xorg*?
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11:19<itd>football: What do you mean with "didn't allow external monitor"? What did you try and how did it fail?
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11:23<football>itd: connected external monitor to hdmi port... external monitor did not detect any signal. crashed screen for hybrid graphics seems to be the gdm it was similar to this link https://postimg.org/image/gerfdwuq3/
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11:29<wolfebynite>hey
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11:30<wolfebynite>whos this
11:31<itd>dpkg: knock knock
11:31<dpkg>itd: oh, piss off
11:31<itd>\o/
11:31<vamp>\m/
11:31<itd>wolfebynite: This is the Debian stable support channel. Should you have a question - just ask.
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11:32<vamp>he/she quit :D
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11:34<itd>football: Don't forget to check yor log files. :)
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11:34<M4D_SAM>HELLO
11:34<M4D_SAM>:D
11:35<vamp>ka kajesh ;)
11:35<M4D_SAM>ur iranian ? :o
11:35<vamp>bulgarian
11:35<football>thanks itd... i am running fedora now... will try debian again for the last time tonight. thanks for the tip on log files
11:35<M4D_SAM>oh im iranian
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11:35<vamp>nice
11:35<M4D_SAM>just working on my kali trying to learn CEH
11:36<itd>football: Sure, good luck. :)
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11:36<itd>dpkg: kali
11:36<dpkg>Kali Linux (http://www.kali.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on chat.freenode.net or http://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian>, and read http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html
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11:36<itd>M4D_SAM: Checkout #kali-linux ^.
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11:39<mdx0>I just ask, I'm busy with a rescue system to download. unfortunately I only have at the moment a raspian system and I have some problems with wget to download the ISO image. yes I know raspian is not debian but I only have the ....
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11:40<petn-randall>!raspbian
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11:40<dpkg>Raspbian is a distribution <based on Debian> made specifically for the <Raspberry Pi>. Raspbian is not Debian and it is not supported in #debian. Please use #raspbian on irc.freenode.net for support. http://www.raspbian.org/
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11:40<petn-randall>mdx0: Feel free to ask in the channel above. ^^^
11:41<mdx0>I will
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12:39<sillyslux>the man page for xdg-mime imho should point out that you probably want to install libfile-mimeinfo-perl see https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=609630#10
12:39<judd>Bug http://bugs.debian.org/609630 in xdg-utils (closed, patch): «xdg-utils: a way to specify mime type for xdg-open?»; severity: wishlist; opened: 2011-01-11; last modified: 2011-03-07.
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12:43<petn-randall>sillyslux: The package containing that man page should have a recommends/suggests on that package, that's the usual/expected way to convey that it makes sense to have extra packages.
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12:45<sillyslux>and it's listed in recommendations section
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12:46<sillyslux>well then i'll try to remember that
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12:51<somiaj>sillyslux: by default recommened packages should be installed. A user would have to manually change this setting to not get recommended packages by default.
12:51<sillyslux>oh really? how come it wasn't installed for me?
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12:55<sillyslux>if a packages is updated and gets new recommendations, will those be install with the update?
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12:55<sillyslux>+ed
12:55<somiaj>sillyslux: are you running debian testing?
12:56<somiaj>I'm unsure if recommended are installed with upgrades, but in debian stable this should not be an issue.
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12:56<sillyslux>i was, but it became stable
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12:56<sillyslux>i've installed stretch early
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12:57<somiaj>I'm unsure there, I also know that lots of people disable installing reocmmended packages by an apt setting
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12:57<sillyslux>oh
12:57<sillyslux>i didn't
12:57<sillyslux>i usually don't mess with apt
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13:03<blast007>sillyslux: I believe this should show you installed packages that are missing one or more of their recommended packages: aptitude search ~i~Brecommends
13:03<sillyslux>with that ~i~B?
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13:05<blast007>with the exact thing I wrote
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13:05<blast007>see https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/aptitude/ch02s04s05.en.html if you want to know what those mean
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13:06<sillyslux>ty
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13:08<blast007>you'll have to show the details of each one it finds and then look up each of their Recommends to see which are missing
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13:09<sillyslux>so if i get a long list from aptitude search ~i~Brecommends then they all miss something and i should go look what it is?
13:09<somiaj>sillyslux: if you think you need the reocmmends. You could also just deal with this as your run across issues. Just rember that it could be you are missing a recommended package.
13:11<sillyslux>ok, one more thing, random line: i A xdg-utils - desktop integr... the i means installed, the A means update available?
13:12<blast007>the A means it was automatically installed
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13:12<blast007>so, it was a dependency for some other package
13:12<sillyslux>ok ty
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13:14<enon>I just install 9.1 now I am unable to upgrade due tue gpg keyproblems is there an easy way to correct?
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13:18<grawity>well, that depends on what problems you're having...
13:18<jhutchins_wk>enon: How did you install? Post your sources.list and the output of your upgrade command at paste.debian.org please.
13:21<enon>I installed using i386 dvd, working on pasting
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13:23<rob_debian>Hi all, please, I'd like to know if there is any specific information related to any issue in my Debian Stretch 9.1 here. here is the output of 'dmesg' command: https://paste.debian.net/987166/
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13:24<rob_debian>I'm worried about it, for I used some experimental tasks provided by'bleachbit' application
13:24<rob_debian>just used to clean normal user, not root user.
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13:29<jhutchins_wk>rob_debian: Was there something in that ~1,000 line paste you wanted to ask about?
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13:30<rob_debian>Hi jhutchins_wk, thanks for attending ! yeah, there are some lines flagged in red, let me specify them for you, just one moment, please...
13:31<enon>hutchins_wk, https://paste.debian.net/987168
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13:36<jhutchins_wk>enon: Not sure why that would have failed. There are manual ways to fix it but let's see if somebody knows what's actually wrong.
13:36<jhutchins_wk>rob_debian: Nothing in your paste came through in red. Is something not working?
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13:37<rob_debian>please, jhutchins_wk, these lines selected from the whole lines are all flagged in red: https://paste.debian.net/987170/
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13:37<jhutchins_wk>!stretch sources.list
13:37<dpkg>A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for "Stretch" has three lines: "deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ stretch main" "deb http://security.debian.org/ stretch/updates main" "deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ stretch-updates main". Be sure to run «apt update» after editing sources.list. Also see <deb-src> <contrib> <non-free> <stretch/updates> <stretch-updates> <mirrors> and "man sources.list".
13:38<rob_debian>Hi annadane ! nice to meet you here !:)
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13:39<rob_debian>jhutchins_wk, I used some experimental tasks available in 'BleachBit' application (as normal user) and there was warning they could damage the system in some cases. that's why I'm a bit worried about these red lines I've sent to you
13:39<jhutchins_wk>rob_debian: So what's not working.
13:40<jhutchins_wk>nouveau is certainly very chatty.
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13:40<jhutchins_wk>enon: Does apt-get update do anything different? (uncomment the other source lines first)
13:40<rob_debian>apparently everything is working fine, but some url take a long time to be loaded
13:41<jhutchins_wk>rob_debian: Other URLs load fine?
13:41<rob_debian>for example, google, youtube, facebook, debian url load very fast... debian url load faster than the speed of light, lol
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13:42<rob_debian>but some others don't, as an example a url I always use:https://civilcultural.ryver.com/application/login
13:42<rob_debian>alter login to this site, it takes a long time, not before
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13:43<rob_debian>sorry, correcting: to access this url https://civilcultural.ryver.com/application/login is normal speed, but after logged to this site, it takes long time
13:44<jhutchins_wk>rob_debian: Ok, if some sites load ok there's nothing wrong on your end. Some sites are slow, that's the internet.
13:45<rob_debian>well, probably this is my fault, for debian always load fast majority of url. in fact, 99% of them are loaded faster than I get for the same url using freebsd, for example
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13:45<rob_debian>please, jhutchins_wk, so, my system is ok ?
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13:51<rob_debian>well, that's it. thanks jhutchins_wk for Great Support ! now, I'm fine about my Debian status here. as I always say: Debian Warriors are the Best !!
13:51<rob_debian>Thank you very much for High Quality Support ! :)
13:51<rob_debian>see you !
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13:58<enon>jhutchins_wk https://paste.debian.net/987175 it got further but still gives me errors about bad keys
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13:59<enon>jhutchins_wk it is allowing some upgrades now
14:00<jhutchins_wk>enon: Probably not much to update on a fresh install, but I think there might be a package that fixes that.
14:00<jhutchins_wk>I was hoping someone who knew about the problem would chime in.
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14:02<enon>I ran into postings about the same problem which involved removing /etc/trusued.gpg and chmod it to 644 but nothing worked
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14:03<jhutchins_wk>,v debian-keyring
14:03<judd>Package: debian-keyring on amd64 -- wheezy: 2013.04.21; jessie: 2015.04.10; stretch: 2017.05.28; buster: 2017.08.28; sid: 2017.08.28
14:03<jhutchins_wk>enon: Install that.
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14:10<enon>jhutchins_wk, Install debian-keyring stretch:2017.05.28 for i386 or amd64?
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14:14<enon>installing debian-keyring
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14:17<enon>jhutchins_wk, installed and ran apt-get update again still get gpg errors. do I need to run another cmd after for new keyring to be seen as valid?
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14:24<jhutchins_wk>enon: I don't believe you should need to, but it should have set it up correctly in the first place.
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14:27<jhutchins_wk>enon: All I can say is come back later and ask again, or ask on freenode.net.
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14:53<itd>enon: Does /etc/apt/trusted.gpg exist?
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14:54<enon>jhutchins_wk thanks for your help at least I got some functing with apt
14:57<enon>itd yes
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14:58<itd>enon: Is it empty?
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15:00<enon>itd no but not readable text
15:00<itd>enon: Is it listed in the output of "apt-key list"?
15:01<yagurajf>hi
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15:01<yagurajf>help
15:01<yagurajf> Does Kernel 3.16 work on debian 9.1?
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15:03<enon>itd no only the files in /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/
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15:04<ariadne>Good afternoon, can someone give me a hand with a Sony Vaio? Cooler at maximum, overheating and giving Intel driver error ..Debian 9, x86_64
15:05<yagurajf>cooler ???
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15:06<ariadne>cooler = fan
15:06<jhutchins_wk>,kernels
15:06<judd>Available kernel versions are: experimental: 4.13.0-trunk-686 (4.13.2-1~exp1); sid: 4.12.0-2-686 (4.12.13-1); buster: 4.12.0-2-686 (4.12.12-2); stretch-backports: 4.12.0-0.bpo.1-686-pae (4.12.6-1~bpo9+1); stretch: 4.9.0-3-686 (4.9.30-2+deb9u5); jessie-backports: 4.9.0-0.bpo.3-686 (4.9.30-2+deb9u2~bpo8+1); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.43-2+deb8u4); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae
15:06<judd>(3.16.39-1+deb8u1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.93-1)
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15:08<ariadne>Sony version VPCEG15FB/B, strech: 4.9, x86_64
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15:08<yagurajf>cooler = fan debian 8.9 kernel 3.16 (Solved my problem)
15:08<itd>enon: Move it somewhere else, e.g. /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.old
15:09<ariadne>in my case, my intel driver shows an error, in the boot: [drm: intel enable lvds i915]
15:09<itd>enon: It may be the case that it is corrupted.
15:09<ariadne>I try MESA, but without success
15:10<itd>enon: You can also check the keys listed by "apt-key list" - you should be able to find the "missing" keys there.
15:11<enon>itd moved
15:12<itd>enon: Please try again to "apt update".
15:12<yagurajf> thanks for the explanation about the kernel
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15:21<enon>itd same errors also no update keys in /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d or in listing from apt-ket list
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15:27<itd>enon: "no update keys" - what do you mean? Would you mind pasting the output of "apt-key list"?
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15:39<enon>itd, refer to https://paste.debian.net/987175 for apt errors (update keys missing) and https://paste.debian.net/987195 apt-key list output
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15:45<guardian>hello, what's the 2017 stance on what should go in /srv/www, /var/www and /usr/local/share/www ?
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16:00<TobiX>enon: In my experience, this is caused by a broken /etc/apt/trusted.gpg ...
16:01<TobiX>Move it away or delete it.
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16:08<enon>TobiX, i did this before but issued apt-key update not apt-get update no errors but still get warnings about unsigned repositories
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16:09<TobiX>enon: Hmm, strange...
16:11<TobiX>enon: Any of the files in /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d not listed in the apt-key output?
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16:13<dofvbofgb>where irssi logs?
16:13<TobiX>enon: It seems apt breaks whenever there are gpg files it cannot parse...
16:13<TobiX>dofvbofgb: ~/.irssi/logs
16:14<dofvbofgb>TobiX, noway
16:15<dofvbofgb>TobiX, there is no such file:-(
16:15<enon>TobiX all files accounted for 3 for stretch 3 for jessie and 2 for whezzy
16:15<dofvbofgb>TobiX, autolog ON
16:16<dofvbofgb>wtfpl is that lizenz for debian?
16:17<dofvbofgb>or for all?:-)
16:17<TobiX>enon: Try "apt-get update -oDebug::Acquire::gpgv=true"
16:18<dofvbofgb>you are so delicate:-)
16:18<blast007>dofvbofgb: mine go into ~/irclogs/ but I'm not sure if that's default or not.
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16:20<dofvbofgb>blast007, same story:-(
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16:20<dofvbofgb>ss
16:22<dofvbofgb>irssi is frozen:-(
16:22<dofvbofgb>madonna(c)
16:22<enon>TobiX, https://paste.debian.net/987199
16:24<dofvbofgb>la isla bonita..
16:24<TobiX>blast007: Yours is the default: https://github.com/irssi/irssi/blob/b58be939d269c72e7f00e75e18fb0619d1dae432/docs/startup-HOWTO.html#L374
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16:26<TobiX>enon: Are your /tmp permissions okay? "ls -ld /tmp" should show something like "drwxrwxrwt 13 root root 962560 Sep 21 22:25 /tmp"
16:28<itd>enon: Somethings strange here. "apt-key list" includes "A1BD 8E9D 78F7 FE5C 3E65 D8AF 8B48 AD62 4692 5553" which is listed with "NO_PUBKEY".
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16:29<TobiX>itd: ACK. Maybe permissions or something like that?
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16:30<dofvbofgb>TobiX, where is channels logs? there is only global.log and nickserv.log:-(
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16:31<dofvbofgb>->there are<-
16:32<TobiX>dofvbofgb: https://irssi.org/documentation/startup/#logging
16:32<enon>TobiX, drwxrwxrwt 15 root root 4096 Sep 21 15:29 /tmp
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16:37<dofvbofgb>why hexchat makes rejoins flood when connecting to rusnet?
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16:38<TobiX>enon: Probably a stupid question: Is your machine's clock correct?
16:39<itd>TobiX: Unsure. Most common thing seems to be a broken/empty /etc/apt/trusted.gpg
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16:40<enon>TobiX current but set to local not utc
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17:00<enon>itd trusted.gpg.orig
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17:10<itd>enon: Regarding the "debian-keyring" package. How did you install it? (Was it already installed?)
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17:26<enon>itd, sudo apt-get install debian-keyring ,it didnt complain about being already installed
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17:31<enon>must reboot (the computer too)
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17:37<itd>I'vs run out of ideas anyways. (Not sure if https://micronews.debian.org/2017/1497791872.html still applies.)
17:38<itd>s/vs/ve/
17:38*itd should reboot as well.
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17:43<wayne734[m]>/msg dpkg install stretch
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17:44<wayne734[m]>dpkg install stretch
17:44<dpkg>There are a myriad of different ways to install Debian. See http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/debian-installer for a list of images and ask me about <netinst>, <various cd1> and <firmware images>. See also <install guide> and <d-i> for detailed instructions. (If you've never installed Debian before, you should read the install guide.)
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18:28<rgr>I am installing debian for the first time, the installer can't find my wifi firmware. Is there anything I can do?
18:30<agaida>use a non-free image
18:31<rgr>that is what im doing, still not working
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18:33<rgr>I'm only finding 4 out of 10 firmware files on the website, maybe im looking at the wrong place
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18:33<agaida>consider to use a cable and configure wifi later?
18:34<blast007>!firmware images
18:34<dpkg>Unofficial <netinst> and DVD installer images containing non-free Debian firmware packages are available for installing Debian 9 "Stretch". See http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/ and ask me about <install guide>.
18:34<rgr>I wish I could, no ethernet port
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18:34<rgr>im already using that image
18:35<blast007>you're using the netinst with firmware included on the ISO?
18:35<rgr>firmware-9.1.0-amd64-netinst
18:38<blast007>got information about the wifi chip?
18:42<rgr>I have no OS currently installed so that might be a tough one, I will see if I can find it
18:42<rgr>intel is all I know atm
18:42<rgr>it is requiring more firmware than I can find on the debian package search
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18:45<rgr>blast007, this should be it "Intel Dual Band 8260 WiFi 2.4/5GHz"
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18:47<Guest5136>Hi. Is there an easy way to update nvidia and intel drivers?
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18:55<sney>Guest5136: do you mean the split nvidia+intel graphics system? no, it is never easy
18:57<Guest5136>Hi sney. No. I meant the intel microcode, then the nvidia graphics. It looks complicated and I wonder about return on time inveestment.
18:57<sney>those upgrades are both mostly automated
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18:58<sney>sometimes nvidia requires a config tweak, depending on if it's a new install, but either way most of the process is done automatically
18:59<Guest5136>ok. Well thats easiest...
18:59<Guest5136>thanks for info
18:59<sney>np, if you get stuck let us know
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18:59<Guest5136>ok
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22:34<draeath>I need to file a bug but I'm unsure what package to file against. This is regarding the handling of .desktop launchers in the mate menu.
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22:36<draeath>I'm thinking mate-menu but thought it best to ask first.
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22:36<tomg>there's a MATE development github page i think
22:37<tomg>maybe someone here (who's not me) would know
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22:38<draeath>ahah seems mate-menus is the name of the source package for the related stuffs, so i'll file there!
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22:47<draeath>Yep that was the right place, and i found it already reported (bugs 773915 and 809742) - a bit saddening to see it's 3 years old though :(
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