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---Logopened Sun Sep 24 00:00:10 2017
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00:01<amacater>It's do-able but hard to get right - it might be easier just to copy off any home drive data you want to keep and reinstalling.
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00:47<elof_>@amacater yes
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01:04<gtristan>Ummm, so I had been nicely with pre-stable-release stretch for some time, and firefox started acting up taking 100% so I thought, lets upgrade and try the newest
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01:04<gtristan>Now, firefox-esr is ~350% constant cpu
01:04<gtristan>and it's doing this really weird thing
01:05<gtristan>runs this new sub process: /usr/lib/firefox-esr/plugin-container -greomni /usr/lib/firefox-esr/omni.ja -appomni /usr/lib/firefox-esr/browser/omni.ja -appdir /usr/lib/firefox-esr/browser 9894 true tab
01:06<gtristan>So I dont expect this is happening to others, but I did have a weird 'held packages' bug when I tried to `apt-get install firefox` to upgrade it
01:06<gtristan>finally I ended up doing `apt-get install firefox-esr` and that sidestepped the weird something about packages being held bug
01:08*gtristan suspects others are not having this firefox breakage on stretch, but doesnt know what he should do to fix his box so that firefox behaves normally
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01:24<gtristan>Ok so asides from the firefox specific stuff, maybe someone can help me with this: https://bpaste.net/show/88e1d87c9cb2 ?
01:24<gtristan>That's what happens when I say `sudo apt-get install firefox`
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01:43<elof_>Alternative Adobe Acrobat on Linux?
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01:49<annadane>elof_, you just need a general pdf reader?
01:49<annadane>there's stuff like okular and evince
01:49<annadane>also libreoffice
01:50<elof_>@annadane, I want to *edit* pdf files
01:51<annadane>elof_, a quick internet search suggests that libreoffice can do that
01:51<annadane>https://itsfoss.com/edit-pdf-files-ubuntu-linux/
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01:52<elof_>Have you used okular or evince? I am going to install one of them
01:52<annadane>elof_, yeah i use okular, but i haven't tried editing pdfs with them
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01:57<elof_>I am going to try both of them
02:00<annadane>s/them/it
02:00<elof_>?
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02:01<annadane>oh, no, them, because referring both to evince and okular
02:02<annadane>it's late and i'm tired :D
02:02<elof_>I live in utc+8:P
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02:03<SoldierOfFortune>help register
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02:04<elof_>Okular is simply a normal pdf reader.....
02:05<annadane>SoldierOfFortune, /msg nickserv help register
02:05<annadane>i think
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02:07<SoldierOfFortune> /msg nickserv help register
02:07<SoldierOfFortune>close enough x
02:07<annadane>SoldierOfFortune, you don't need a space
02:09<elof_>What is the difference between apt install and apt-get install?
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02:56<libregeekingkid[m]>elof_: apt is just a wrapper for apt-get
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02:58<libregeekingkid[m]>elof_: a good read https://itsfoss.com/apt-vs-apt-get-difference/
03:00<elof_>Does Debian reference include the explanation?
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03:41<elof_>What is the problem in this sources.list? https://pastebin.com/kveE5v0y
03:42<elof_>the result: https://pastebin.com/rSGAsd1Y
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03:46<elof_>I was attempting to add non-free sources
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07:27<chronics>can someone help me to get user switching to work on xfce and gdm when using nvidia drivers
07:27<chronics>it seems fundamentally broken on xfce but it does work on gnome3
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07:30<chronics>clicking switch user on the menu does nothing, clicking new login on the xscreensaver does nothing, tried gnome-screensaver and clicking switch user on that did nothing.
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07:31<chronics>dm-tool switch-to-greeter gives: Not running inside a display manager, XDG_SEAT_PATH not defined. Setting XDG_seat_path gives another error about display manager
07:32<olspookishmagus>chronics: not currently on my linux box, but when I go to it, I will let you know and perhaps we will work this together (GMT +3 here)
07:34<chronics>lightdm is not an option either because light-locker is gives me same problem as bug #868087 .
07:34<judd>Bug http://bugs.debian.org/868087 in light-locker (open): «light-locker: Locking screen with light-locker crashes system to blinking cursor»; severity: important; opened: 2017-07-11; last modified: 2017-09-23.
07:34<chronics>olspookishmagus: ok thanks
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08:41<finster>hello there. i'm a bit stuck regarding an openvpn problem on debian stretch (hopefully the right channel here, otherwise please redirect me)
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08:44<finster>after the last reboot of a stretch system (no backports, kvm guest, amd64 architecture, all updates installed) yesterday, openvpn stops forwarding packets somehow. via "verb 6" in the openvpn config i see there are packets coming in to the openvpn daemon. firewalling (shorewall in this case) is deactivated, so all chains are set to ACCEPT. packet forwarding in the kernel (/proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward) is
08:44<finster>enabled
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08:45<finster>however, packets do not seem to transit the openvpn process (verified via tcpdump on a client and destination system as well as on the openvpn system itself).
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08:46<finster>here's the openvpn config: https://dpaste.de/8QmU
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08:48<finster>the service was started with "systemctl start oepenvpn@tw.service", which changed recently in debian, iirc
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08:48<finster>sorry for the wall of text btw
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09:29<Horstexplorer>Join Debian.de
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09:30<Horstexplorer>Hello
09:30<Horstexplorer>Someone who can help me here
09:30<Horstexplorer>Debian 9 cant use my Network device :/
09:32<itd>Horstexplorer: Ethernet or wifi? (Also try: '/join #debian.de')
09:32<Horstexplorer>Ethernet :/
09:32<Horstexplorer>Im in the other channel too but don't want to spam
09:33<itd>Horstexplorer: Did you ask there?
09:33<Horstexplorer>Nö, should i?
09:33<Horstexplorer>*no
09:33<blast007>no
09:34<itd>Horstexplorer: Only if you prefer german to english. If you ask inform us, please.
09:34<Horstexplorer>English is ok for me
09:35<Horstexplorer>Im using the Broadcom NetXtreme II bcm5709 as network card
09:35<itd>Horstexplorer: Are you using NetworkManager?
09:35<blast007>Do you have the firmware-bnx2 package installed?
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09:36<Horstexplorer>Im not sure if im using it. Just trying to Install it fresh via net Install. Debian 8 asked dir the bnx2 Firmware but Debian 9 wont :/
09:38<blast007>!firmware images
09:38<dpkg>Unofficial <netinst> and DVD installer images containing non-free Debian firmware packages are available for installing Debian 9 "Stretch". See http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/ and ask me about <install guide>.
09:38<blast007>the unofficial installer ISO with firmware seems to include that firmware package
09:38<blast007>you could try using that instead
09:39<Horstexplorer>Thank you. I am downloading it atm
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09:41<Horstexplorer>Which one is the netinstall? isocd ?
09:41<Horstexplorer>Ah okay i found it
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09:53<Horstexplorer>Thank you very much, it ist working ;D
09:53<Horstexplorer>Yay
09:54<blast007>great :)
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09:54<Horstexplorer>Have a nice day :)
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10:53<randomperson>Hello, I have just installed debian minimal install but I can’t install any packages. Every package shows up as broken and missing dependancies. I think it has something to do with sources but I can’t find a sources list online
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10:59<piper>!stretch sources.list
10:59<dpkg>A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for "Stretch" has three lines: "deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ stretch main" "deb http://security.debian.org/ stretch/updates main" "deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ stretch-updates main". Be sure to run «apt update» after editing sources.list. Also see <deb-src> <contrib> <non-free> <stretch/updates> <stretch-updates> <mirrors> and "man sources.list".
11:00<piper>randomperson: ↑
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11:05<randomperson>Thank you soo much I just replaced the sources with what you typed and it is working
11:06<piper>:P
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11:08<randomperson>“deb http://deb.debian.org/debian stretch main” was missing from the minimal install. When this happens again I know how to fix it :D thanks again
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12:36<debler>Hello, I'am an newbie on samba-shares and have a question. Why the folder, I wish to share, has to be executable? (--> chmod 700) why is chmod 600 not enough?
12:36<CHCl3>hello debler
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12:36<CHCl3>with 500 or 550 should work
12:37<debler>I do not understand why executable (+1) is necessary.
12:37<CHCl3>and make sure you apply it right to the hole folder with chmod -R
12:37<CHCl3>let me see
12:38<debler>with chmod 700 it work fine, the smb-user should be able to read and write.
12:38<CHCl3>no execurtion just reading and writting
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12:41<CHCl3>sorry it's exec and reading
12:41<mnuhmnuh>debler: executable on *nix makes dir readable, not executable (like on win*).
12:43<debler>ok, are there files in this folder automatically executable?
12:47<itd>debler: Depends on the command you use.
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12:51<mnuhmnuh>debler: execute bit set on each individual file (user, group, other) controls for files. dirs != files. :-)
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13:23<android>hi
13:24<android>how to install virualbox in debian ????
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13:27<towo-vm>android, apt install virtualbox-qt?
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13:28<android>Unable to locate Package?
13:29<annadane>towo-vm, not in stretch
13:29<towo-vm>android, on stretch, it's only in backports available, in contrib
13:29<annadane>it's in stretch-backports, however
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13:30<annadane>as is regular virtualbox
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13:33<towo-vm>virtualbox only does not install any gui
13:33<towo-vm>so installing virtualbox-qt is the better choice
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13:34<annadane>oh does it not? til
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13:51<android>thanks for all
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14:47<guardian>on a stretch box, how would you feel about converting the root partition from ext3 to ext4 without being able to mount it from elsewhere? :/
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15:07<Megaf>So I learned that unstable branch is actually ok, pretty stable and can live mixed with a testing branch without major issues
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15:07<Megaf>problems one begin when you mix experimental in the soup
15:07<chronics>any ideas on what I can do if new login doesnt work with xfce ? xscreensaver and switch user doesnt work on gnome-screensaver. dm-tool switch-to-greeter gives error: Not running inside a display manager, XDG_SEAT_PATH not defined. Setting the xdg path still gives another display manager error. I have a feeling its related to nvidia driver and xfce but user switching works fine on gnome
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15:27<annadane>Megaf, i'd still be careful with mixing too much testing + unstable unless you specifically know what you're doing
15:28<annadane>you can pull in the occasional package from unstable or downgrade to testing if something is broken but it's dangerous to excessively mix
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15:32<awal1>Megaf, by "dangerous" annadane means that "your computer may exploide because of antrax-utils pkg"
15:32<annadane>um.
15:32<annadane>not exactly but sure why not
15:35<chronics>olspookishmagus: are you able to help
15:36<annadane>it won't break as much as mixing stable + anything else but it verily shall break
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15:54<mnuhmnuh>guardian: don't quote me but, last i heard mounting ext3 as ext4 autogenned the system journal. research, trust but verify.
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16:05<mnuhmnuh>guardian: i may be thinking gparted can yada, yada, magically whiz bang it ... long time ago i looked into it.
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16:06<Megaf>annadane, awal1, well, when I begun mixing things I didn't know what I was doing
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16:59<fcrs>is there a quick way to install everything from tasksel's "standard system utilities" using just apt or apt-* commands, i.e. without first installing tasksel or aptitude?
17:00<sney>!standard
17:00<dpkg>it has been said that standard task is a "task" that should be installed on all machines during the installer stage. It installs packages that are important, required and standard (i.e. "aptitude install ~pstandard ~prequired ~pimportant"). Packages in the <essential> set are always installed. Also ask me about <tasksel>.
17:00<sney>ah, without aptitude
17:01<fcrs>yeah, since it's a minimal install from the LXC template
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17:01<sney>I've wondered why there isn't a task-* metapackage for it while there is for everything else.
17:02<sney>maybe worthwhile to dig into how debootstrap does it
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17:44<guardian>mnuhmnuh: dunno, hard to find info
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18:43<jhutchins>fcrs: I think the stretch installer doesn't include aptitude. Tasksel is pretty minimal.
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18:44<jhutchins>fcrs: Oh, I misunderstood you. Yeah, you'd need tasksel to do standard.
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18:47<fcrs>jhutchins: thanks
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19:45<enon>hi after reinstalling stretch to resolve apt geyring errors I some how lost the ability to choose I want at log-in also I now have to put in my username at login. Any ideas what I am missing?which DE i
19:46<enon>err choose the DE I want
19:47<annadane>enon, well, what did you pick in the installer
19:49<enon>annadane at installation time I had network trouble and was only allowed xfce. I installed lxde and gnome afterwards
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19:50<annadane>"network trouble"...
19:50<annadane>enon, how did you prepare your image? like if you installed it via a usb stick, how did you put the iso on the stick?
19:51<enon>trouble getting wifi working right no repos were passing installer checks
19:52<annadane>right, it's possible you have a corrupted image so that's why i ask how did you transfer it to your install medium
19:52<enon>I installed from cd 1 which passed the installer test
19:53<annadane>enon, yes but did you use a usb stick? a cd? how did you put the image on your installation media
19:54<enon>I wanted to a fresh d/l of the dvd but itwas too large to fit on a r/w dvd
19:54<annadane>so what did you end up using instead
19:55<enon>This image I put the cd image on a dvd+r
19:55<annadane>ok and what did you use to put the image on it? what program/method?
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19:56<enon>let me think I think burned it with win10 burning tool
19:57<annadane>it's either that your image was corrupted (you used the wrong tool for burning) or your wifi or internet went down during the connection so you now have a broken system
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19:58<annadane>you didn't use unetbootin or rufus?
19:58<annadane>s/connection/install
19:59<annadane>what you can try is typing dmesg | grep firmware into the terminal, it may be missing wifi firmware so you may need to use one of the non free images
19:59<enon>I just got this laptop so I really didnt have much choice on what to use. no to unetbootin or rufus
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20:01<annadane>i guess the first preliminary thing i would do is reboot and see if you really can't choose a DE at login before doing anything else
20:01<annadane>though actually i doubt that would solve anything
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20:02<annadane>because i doubt you installed gnome + lxde using a virtual terminal; you probably used the main one and then rebooted and then found you couldn't select anything
20:02<enon>I had to supply a driver during install . rebooted already and it did not change
20:03<annadane>i think probably if i had to guess something went wrong during the install especially as you say your wifi went down - but if the wifi was working to begin with and then suddenly stopped working it may have just been an accident
20:03<annadane>my suggestion would probably be to try it again
20:04<annadane>unless someone else has a better idea?
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20:05<enon>I did get wifi working after the packages were already installed also /etc/apt/sources was missing main contribute and nonfree
20:05<annadane>just to explain what i mean, sometimes wifi doesn't work because the computer needs firmware for it to work, so some people download non-free images containing that firmware. but if it was working at some point and stopped working then it may just have been a fluke
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20:07<mnuhmnuh>guardian: you could just try to mount -r remount ext4 and see what happens. i doubt it would do anything bad to it.
20:07<annadane>to me it sounds like you might try a reinstall and see if it works now without the wifi going down, but i would first post the output of dmesg | grep firmware to paste.debian.net
20:07<annadane>you'll need to be root to run the command
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20:09<annadane>also you wouldn't have contrib and non-free in your sources list directly after install unless you used some kind of preseed method
20:09<annadane>unless you added those yourself and they suddenly vanished
20:10<annadane>it's sort of hard to know what's wrong without more details
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20:14<enon>https://paste.debian.net/987605
20:14<annadane>ah, no firmware errors then
20:15<annadane>so again to me it sounds like your wifi went down at an unfortunate time and messed up the install
20:15<hoint>Hi! I'm trying to get Debian into an ASUS EeePC Model1015P. The wiki is terrible out of date and if only goes as far as Wheezy.
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20:15<annadane>it *may also* be a corrupted image because you said you had to reinstall debian due to keyring errors
20:16<annadane>hoint, okay, and the question is? you want to know how to do it?
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20:16<enon>as far as modifying sources.list I did this after first boot when I could install software and onlly had secure .debian updates in apt-get update
20:17<annadane>i wonder if i'm simply overlooking something in enon's problem, i don't want to misdiagnose anything
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20:18<hoint>I just can't get the computer to read a Debian Stretch iso from the USB for some reason - although I've successfully booted from Tails (which is based on Stretch) on it AND I've checked that the image downloaded is properly set up on the pendrive, since it works properly in other Acer netbook. I can't figure out what's happening and I was wondering if anyone had a clue.
20:18<enon>hoint I just install on an asus Eee myself
20:19<annadane>hoint, well, 1) how'd you put the iso on the usb and 2) are you sure it's the right architecture
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20:20<annadane>and when you say you can't get the computer to read it, how so? do you, for example, reboot the computer and select usb in the bios and it simply does nothing?
20:20<hoint>Yup. It doesn't show up on the boot menu as it should.
20:20<enon>annadane I figure because of my alter method I am missing some filr(s)
20:22<hoint>It is the right architecture (amd64), because I managed to make it "see" the Debian 6 image, but I can't make it "see" the Debian 9 - both netinstall
20:22<annadane>okay, how'd you put it on your usb?
20:22<enon>I had to do a couple of things in my bios to boot off usb dvd drive
20:22*mnuhmnuh mount -o remount # ? sigh.
20:22<hoint>Both created with cp, as the wiki instructs: https://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC/HowTo/InstallUsingStandardInstaller
20:23<annadane>hoint, it's also possible that you need to change the order of devices read in the bios
20:23<annadane>wait
20:23<annadane>yeah, no, that
20:24<enon>after the bios there is a boot manger as well alt f10 I believe
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20:24<annadane>it likely depends on the computer.
20:24<hoint>That's the first thing I did. And, as I said, I don't have any problems booting from Tails - it's Debian 9 installer that it doesn't recognize
20:26<mnuhmnuh>hoint: it shouldn't "show up on the boot menu". it should, from usbkey, just boot, no options.
20:27<annadane>i know on my computer i have to select it but maybe my config is weird
20:27<annadane>and/or i am not excelled in the art of bios-fu
20:28<mnuhmnuh>you may be offered multi or single user login, i doubt it would even mention installed on system os.
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20:31<enon>all I know is on my asus Eee I had to go into the bios and the boot manger to boot of my usb dvd player but if hoint is able to boot tails off usb the my guess is something with how it was put on the usb stick
20:31<annadane>enon, as to your issue i'm guessing wifi is the only thing you can use and not a regular internet connection
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20:33<enon>as for my situation I was hoping somebody would have an idea of what I was missing
20:34<annadane>can also try starting gnome or lxde from the terminal and see if you get errors or if it's simply missing from the menu
20:35<annadane>it also depends on which display manager you're using, you may be looking for the desktop environment selection menu in the wrong place
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20:36<enon>annadane wifi is my only option atm. however I suspect my trouble came from the mirror side rather my sidebecause i had to try 4 or 5 mirrors to get a good result
20:36<annadane>ah, that's something i hadn't considered
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20:37<annadane>so perhaps try it with one that you know works, if you have one
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20:38<enon>oh redrum I was hoping to install 1 or two missing pkgs but oh well
20:38<annadane>well
20:38<annadane>there may be a simpler solution
20:38<annadane>which i've already indicated
20:38<annadane>but i don't know what else could cause missing menu entries
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20:40<enon>I got xfce by default so there must be something in the installer meta pkg that doesnt apear when gnome is install afterwards
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20:49<hoint>(Grrr, this is just ridiculous. Kali 4.9 live iso works, Xubuntu 16.04 iso works)
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20:50<hoint>But neither Debian 9.1 gnome or Debian 9.1 netinst or Debian 9.0 DVD isos work for some reason
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20:54<mnuhmnuh>isn't "install one or two packages" wget * 2 && apt install $whenever # ? or why wait if in starbucks?
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20:58<mnuhmnuh>hoint: suggest "cp blah.iso /dev/sdN" - recreate your debian usbkey.
20:58<hoint>Yup, trying that yet again.
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20:59<mnuhmnuh>blame hardware! >:-)
21:00<mnuhmnuh>it can't fight back.
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21:02<hoint>But it can be kicked :P
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21:10<mnuhmnuh>hoint: so's ya know, the kick-ass quad core 1.3 TB monster i currently run was dumped off the back of a pickup truck onto a concrete driveway then spent four years in an unheated garage. great box.
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21:11<hoint>Nope, didn't work again T.T
21:11<mnuhmnuh>argh. plan ...
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21:14<hoint>I have no idea. The pendrive is set up correctly, I just booted from an Aspire 1410 into it and it worked. T.T
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21:17<mnuhmnuh>hoint: suggest go to cdimage.debian... and try again? drat. been there, ...
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21:21<hoint>But if it was a problem with the image, it shouldn't boot from the Aspire, and it does...
21:21<hoint>And this is a new image that I downloaded yet again, the previous one happened the same.
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21:30<izzyb1>is it usually this quite here?
21:30<abrotman>sometimes .. It's sunday evening, tends to be quiet
21:30<izzyb1>Or do I have a link issue
21:31<izzyb1>ok
21:31<izzyb1>thanks
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21:37<mnuhmnuh>izzyb1: time zones, what can ya do? people snooze, siesta, get SO's dragging them off to $somewhere ...
21:37<mnuhmnuh>life.
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21:44<izzyb1>mnuhmnuh: yeah, I was just making sure it wasn't a pebkac issue on my part. It's actually the debian-live channel I'm looking for help in. it's just as dead
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21:44<izzyb1>guess, I'll have to see who's around tomorrow morning
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21:48<sleser>hi can someone give me alin to a kde iso
21:48<sleser>i cant find a working one of the main site
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21:48<sleser>with fast conection preferrably
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21:55<abrotman>sleser: what's wrong with the netinst?
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21:55<sleser>full install is just better
21:55<sleser>faster
21:55<sleser>no isp nesesery to install
21:56<sleser>many reasons
21:56<abrotman>I don't see a KDE-specific ISO anymore, so you'd end up with all three DVDs ..
21:56<abrotman>https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/
21:57<sleser>can i place thouse dvd in one usb and use it ?
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21:58<sleser>problem is . not sure wtf i was downloading mp3 inside m3 is sex sounds
21:58<sleser>somehow some one keeps haking in to my system
21:59<sleser>others who dl same mp3 from same radio station dont have same problem
21:59<sleser>i think i need a new install
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22:00<sleser>not sure wtf is going on
22:00<sleser>butit is what it is
22:01<mnuhmnuh>sleser: you should only need dvd1, ever.
22:01<sleser>thaks m8
22:03<mnuhmnuh>used to be cd1, and netboot works fine too.
22:04<mnuhmnuh>netinst
22:05<sleser>looks like today peope feed shit in to trough isp
22:05<sleser>like for instance the mp3 i was dling
22:05<sleser>my copy compared to my friends had a sex video sound mixed in to it
22:05<sleser>how is that posible ?
22:06<hoint>Man in the middle?
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22:06<mnuhmnuh>sleser: where dl'ing from? not cdimage.debian.org?
22:06<mnuhmnuh>moran.
22:06<sleser>um from sub.fm
22:06<sleser>ill give a net install a try
22:07<sleser>then all thise beeping out f nowhere
22:07<sleser>wtf..... is hapening in ny city
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22:07<sleser>noise noise noise everywhere...
22:07<sleser>things werent like this b4
22:08<annadane>!chat
22:08<dpkg>This is not a chat channel, this is a Debian user support channel. Unless you have a Debian support question, please chat elsewhere, like #debian-offtopic, or #moocows on irc.oftc.net or ##chat on irc.freenode.net.
22:08<sleser>fkinell
22:08<sleser>thanks for the link m8 yes i knew that
22:08<sleser>i was just answering ur qustion
22:09*mnuhmnuh "... luv ain't for keepin'."
22:09<sleser>devinately
22:09<sleser>:)
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23:41<mnuhmnuh>rsip22_: :-)
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23:52<s3a>I'm using apt pinning, and I want to get packages from a less stable branch, and I know how to do it, but how can I make sure that the package(s) will only be upgraded once stable has a newer version (so that I don't risk breakage from an update in, say, testing)?
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