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#debian IRC Logs for 2017-09-26

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00:20<N1njaDerp> Hi
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00:48<XLS202_>Hey :) Could someone help me to set 802.ad with a Netgear switch? My problem is the warning "Warning: No 802.3ad response from the link partner for any adapters in the bond" although in the switch it seems like the connection ist working, but i cant connect to anything in the network
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00:51<daiker>Hello
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03:07<mazze>I upgraded my Laptop (Thinkpad T470) to stretch (with linux 4.12), and now I have serious problems with the sound card (Intel HD Audio). Even with some howtos online, I don't know where to start. Can anybody help me a bit further?
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03:11<jm_>start defining what serious problems means
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03:12<annadane>note that the kernel for stretch is 4.9; i assume 4.12 is intentional on your part
03:13<mazze>jm_ thanks, I forgot. No sound output at all. In the gnome settings, there is only a "dummy output" sound card available. In "alsamixer" I see a "HD Intel PCH", but I cannot playback to it (to my knowledge).
03:14<mazze>And I'm not sure if alsa has been changed in sarge, at least the packages are sometimes empty now ...
03:14<annadane>mazze, you upgraded from sarge directly to stretch?
03:14<mazze>annadane yes, this was intentional as I had problems with a driver, so I pulled it from backports
03:14<jm_>mazze: so «aplay -l» lists your card? and you also see it in «cat /proc/asound/cards» output?
03:15<mazze>annadane from the release before, if this was stretch, yes
03:15<annadane>stretch is current stable. release before this was jessie
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03:15<mazze>jm_ yes, it does (didn't know the command)
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03:15<mazze>jm_ but when I'm doing "aplay <file>" I don't hear anything
03:16<jm_>mazze: does «speaker-test» work? careful, it emits white noise
03:16<mazze>annadane sorry, totally mixed up. I don't think then that I went from sarge to stretch, but from jessie.
03:17<mazze>jm_ I don't hear anything with "speaker-test". But it does not complain
03:17<mazze>annadane I probably never paid attention to ALSA details as everything worked out of the box ...
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03:17<jm_>mazze: check your mixer settings, «amixer scontents»
03:18<mazze>jm_ I didn't know that mixer either. From what I see I'd say everything looks healthy ...
03:19<jm_>mazze: put it on the paste site (https://paste.debian.net)
03:20<mazze>jm_ http://paste.debian.net/987771/
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03:22<jm_>mazze: put also aplay -l output there please
03:23<jm_>to me this looks like it's using non-intel hd audio card as the number of controls is very low
03:23<mazze>jm_ of course, sorry ... http://paste.debian.net/987772/
03:24<mazze>jm_ I'm pretty sure it is a driver problem, as it worked flawlessly before the upgrade
03:25<jm_>mazze: does it work if you boot with the 4.9 kernel?
03:25<mazze>jm_ I did not try ... probably I should.
03:26<jm_>according to this output card0 is ALC298 Analog [ALC298 Analog], I have "ALC221 Analog [ALC221 Analog]" and if I run amixer -c 2 scontents (-c 2 is needed since my default is USB headset) I get many controls
03:26<mazze>jm_ The driver I needed (and why I upgraded to 4.12) was the ethernet card's driver in the Thunderbolt 3 dock, but then it did not work either, and I had to compile the driver from the source. So I might use 4.9 just as well ...
03:27<jm_>mazze: it's worth testing that out I guess
03:27<mazze>jm_ well, I will. I'll be back in any case :D
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03:31<mazze>jm_ unfortunately this did not help.
03:32<mazze>jm_ there are two more symptoms I could mention, but will probably not really help: In the final stages of boot (systemd starting X), there come some knacks and clicks out the speakers
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03:33<mazze>jm_ secondly, the problem is intermittent: After some boots sound worked, I saw the card in "full glory", but on other boots I had my problem ... just as now running 4.9
03:33<jm_>mazze: in that case comparing dmesg output when it works/does not work might show something
03:34<jm_>other than that, my only idea would be to build kernels myself and use git bisect to try and find out when it broke
03:34<mazze>jm_ :(
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03:35<mazze>jm_ It's already a long time ago that I built my kernels myself ... deciding on every single menuconfig toggle :D
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03:36<jm_>mazze: yeah it's getting more complex, I also almost gave up on my own kernels too ;)
03:36<mazze>jm_ Oh, I just tried something different: "rmmod snd-hda-intel", and then "modprobe snd-hda-intel". And just then sound is now back ...
03:37<mazze>jm_ and now "rmmod" gives me a clear "rmmod: ERROR: Module snd_hda_intel is in use".
03:37<mazze>jm_ so it was not use before ...
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03:37<jm_>mazze: and if you run «dmesg» and look at what it said before and now, are there any differences?
03:37<mazze>jm_ although it works fine now, the output of amixer is still the same; probably this is a much more simple card than your USB one ...
03:38<jm_>mazze: it's the other way arround, my USB one is simple with 2 controls only
03:38<mazze>jm_ no. The additional lines I got now are the same that were produced during boot (except for the device numbering)
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03:39<mazze>jm_ Maybe this "dummy soundcard" thing that I see in this GNOME audio configurator overlaps the correct driver? Or the card gets reset by GNOME after it might have worked already after boot?
03:39<jm_>mazze: hmm then I am out of ideas, but if this procedure works, you have a simple workaround (just create a script in /etc/init.d)
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03:39<mazze>jm_ might well be a GNOME (or pulse?) problem ...
03:40<jm_>mazze: I'm affraid I am completely clueless about gnome, but yeah if you use pulse, look at what pavucontrol also shows
03:40<grawity>in pulse, "dummy soundcard" only shows up when it has no *real* devices, and disappears otherwise
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03:41<mazze>grawity thinks for the hint! Question is why my real device is not there after boot, even though the kernel module is loaded (and I see the dmesg entries)
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03:42<mazze>jm_ thank you very much for help. It at least got me there finding that workaround :)
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03:42<grawity>does raw ALSA work now?
03:43<mazze>mpg123 of an audio file works fine. aplay on an mp3 does just produce noise, but it probably expects an uncompressed stream ...?
03:44<grawity>yeah
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03:45<mazze>I found a .wav file, and it plays nicely now with aplay ...
03:45<grawity>so, try just restarting pulseaudio (pactl quit)
03:45<grawity>then see if `pactl list sinks short` finally shows the alsa devices
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03:46<mazze>ahm ... right now (before restarting pulseaudio) "pactl list sinks short" already shows the ALSA device. But all this is now after I did the infamous "rmmod snd-hda-intel", and then "modprobe snd-hda-intel".
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03:46<mazze>to recreate my problem I'd need to reboot and the probably things would be bad again.
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03:49<mazze>grawity I'll do that and come back shortly ... :)
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03:52<mazze>now we have a slightly different situation (sometimes it's different between boots): In GNOME I see both "cards" (Dummy and HD Audio), in pavucontrol only "Dummy", and in "pactl list sinks short" it says "0auto_nullmodule-null-sink.cs16le 2ch 44100HzSUSPENDED"
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03:53<mazze>sound output is not working, but tools don't complain.
03:53<mazze>I'd guess now that a "rmmod"/"insmod" would fix the problem for this run.
03:53<grawity>hmm
03:53<grawity>does `sudo fuser -v /dev/snd/*` list any programs except pulseaudio?
03:54<mazze>no, just 2 times pulseaudio
03:54<grawity>your pulseaudio, or someone else's?
03:54<mazze>mine.
03:54<grawity>do you have exactly one pulseaudio process?
03:55<mazze>yes.
03:55<mazze>just one.
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03:56<grawity>does at least `pactl list sources short` or `pactl list cards short` show alsa?
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03:57<mazze>I get http://paste.debian.net/987778/
03:57<grawity>hmm
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03:58<grawity>what about the full `pactl list cards`
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03:59<mazze>http://paste.debian.net/987779/
04:01<grawity>that's odd, it even lists analog-output-speaker without problems
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04:03<mazze>maybe I should just give up and schedule that rmmod/insmod after boot ...
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04:03<grawity>wait for the next pulseaudio release maybe :D
04:03<grawity>or previous
04:03<mazze>:)
04:04<grawity>what happens if you twiddle the profile selection in pavucontrol/Configuration?
04:04<grawity>or if you just restart pulseaudio (and not the rest of OS)?
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04:04<mazze>in pavucontrol, I only see the dummy card, cannot chacnge
04:04<grawity>...even in Configuration tab?
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04:05<grawity>that's slightly suspicious
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04:05<mazze>There I see a lot ...
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04:05<mazze>I chose analogue stereo now ... and we sound here ... let's check
04:05<mazze>everything is fine now
04:06<mazze>just by choosing that in pavucontrol
04:06<jm_>even after reboot?
04:06<mazze>I would not think so, but I'd have to try.
04:07<mazze>I've to go now, but I'll try later, and possibly come back if there's still the issue
04:07<mazze>thank you two very much for now :D
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04:08<jm_>no worries
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04:40<olspookishmagus>is there a list of packages that are built only for 'amd64' arch?
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04:41<petn-randall>!tell olspookishmagus -about crosspost
04:42<olspookishmagus>well, petn-randall I'm not considering my time more valuable than others'
04:42<annadane>olspookishmagus, #debian is for debian stable. #debian-next is testing/sid. very big difference
04:42<olspookishmagus>but OK point taken
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04:42<olspookishmagus>annadane: nevertheless the question applies to both releases and their combinations
04:43<olspookishmagus>and here's an example: https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=python-indexed-gzip
04:44<olspookishmagus>so, petn-randall to further advance in your hint, should I always look-out for the most appropriate channel and drop my question there?
04:44<petn-randall>olspookishmagus: That example only exists in testing/sid.
04:45<petn-randall>olspookishmagus: Feel free to ask where you like, crossposting is critized for asking at several different places at the same time, causing parallel discussions that should be a single one.
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04:45<annadane>if you're not sure where it goes and you feel it applies to both releases just post about it here and if it's off topic we'll redirect it
04:45<olspookishmagus>petn-randall: that "parallel discussions" also bothers me somehow
04:46<olspookishmagus>ok, thanks for the guidance and please accept my apologies
04:46<petn-randall>olspookishmagus: Are you looking for a list of packages that exist in arch amd64, or *only* amd64, meaning they don't exist in other architectures?
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04:49<olspookishmagus>what I'm worried about is how soon enough i386 is going to get less and less packages built for it
04:50<petn-randall>olspookishmagus: It will take another decade before i386 gets dropped, it's still used in lots of larger embedded systems.
04:51<Myon>also, "amd64 only" is very much different from "not on i386"
04:51<Myon>python-indexed-gzip | 0.3.1-1+b1 | unstable | amd64, arm64, kfreebsd-amd64, mips64el, ppc64el, s390x
04:51<annadane>see, this is a policy question
04:51<annadane>meaning it does belong here
04:52<petn-randall>Yeah, asking the _real_ question helps :)
04:52<petn-randall>annadane: No one ever doubted it belongs here or not, the criticism was posting it to #debian-next at the same time (a.k.a. "crossposting").
04:53<jm_>should be relatively simple to grab Packages files, then use something like dpkg-awk/grep-available, print a list of packages, sort it, compare it
04:53<annadane>i'm saying it's preferred here because it has to do with policy aka the project itself which unless it pertains specifically to testing/sid always goes in the main chan
04:54<petn-randall>olspookishmagus: In the case of python-indexed-gzip, the build failed on several architectures: https://buildd.debian.org/status/package.php?p=indexed-gzip&suite=unstable
04:56<petn-randall>olspookishmagus: And failing on supported architectures is usually considered release-critical.
04:57<olspookishmagus>I didn't know about buildd.debian.org ^^
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05:19<brian-mac>hi guys
05:19<brian-mac>on jessie how do I increase this particular limit
05:19<brian-mac>?
05:19<brian-mac>VmData 307200 exceed data ulimit 300000
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05:21<brian-mac>full message
05:21<brian-mac>mmap: tinydns (3351): VmData 307200 exceed data ulimit 300000. Update limits or use boot option ignore_rlimit_data
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05:23<olspookishmagus>what is the "status" of this package? http://paste.debian.net/hidden/e586e432/ and how can I get all those packages stuck in a version not currently present move on to the next available upgrade?
05:23<olspookishmagus>I just did a apt-get-upgrade and gcc wasn't upgraded
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05:28<madduck>why does cups need to "expire subscriptions" every second on two hosts?
05:28<madduck>I [26/Sep/2017:11:24:23 +0200] Expiring subscriptions…
05:28<madduck>what is it even doing?
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05:36<itd>madduck: "what is it even doing": https://sources.debian.net/src/cups/2.2.1-8/scheduler/subscriptions.c/?hl=658#L645
05:37<madduck>itd: heh, thanks. But that does not help if the whole concept of subscriptions is weird to me, and I also don't see why it has to happen every second
05:37<itd>madduck: Looking at [1] I suspect that you can subscribe to the state of jobs on printers (to receive notifications). That seems to remove old subscriptions. [1]: https://sources.debian.net/src/cups/2.2.1-8/scheduler/subscriptions.c/?hl=290#L290
05:38<itd>madduck: Also "man subscriptions.conf" - https://manpages.debian.org/stretch/cups/subscriptions.conf.5.en.html
05:38<madduck>i have never subscribed to anything. And I do note that the web interface has rss subscriptions, and they come back even if I remove them
05:38<madduck>but this is excessive: http://scratch.madduck.net/subscriptions.png
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05:41<itd>madduck: No idea, sorry. https://i.imgur.com/rsQ93.png
05:42<madduck>heh
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06:04<olspookishmagus>how can I use the apt-list --upgradable to upgrade those as well?
06:05<olspookishmagus>maybe I'll just do a "full-upgrade"
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06:06<petn-randall>olspookishmagus: Looks like a Frankendebian to me. You've got 4 different release suites in your sources.list.
06:07<olspookishmagus>I like the term, I'll keep it ^^
06:08<jm_>brian-mac: where did you get the package?
06:08<petn-randall>olspookishmagus: We even have a factoid for it!
06:08<olspookishmagus>full-upgrade seems to be working
06:08<petn-randall>!frankendebian
06:08<dpkg>When you get random packages from random repositories, mix multiple releases of Debian, or mix Debian and derived distributions, you have a mess. There's no way anyone can support this "distribution of Frankenstein" and #debian certainly doesn't want to even try. See if you can convince ##linux to help.
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06:08<jm_>ahh from backports
06:09<olspookishmagus>or from various github repos or built from sources etc etc
06:09<brian-mac>jm_ linode jessie repo
06:09<olspookishmagus>not to mention installations via CPAN or pypi/pypi3
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06:09<petn-randall>olspookishmagus: That won't break your system, unless you do a system install. But even that would write to /usr/local/, so you'd be safe.
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06:10<jm_>brian-mac: hmm debian does not have tinydns in jessie repository, I am asking because I want to know how it gets started at boot
06:10<brian-mac>ahh sorry
06:10<brian-mac>the tinydns is comilped from source
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06:10<brian-mac>then started via daemon tools
06:10<brian-mac>daemontools started via systemd
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06:11<olspookishmagus>how is lennart these days? ^^
06:12<brian-mac>jm_ I added IGNORE_RLIMIT_DATA to /etc/default/grub
06:14<jm_>brian-mac: or do it via systemd, man systemd.exec explains Limit options (LimitDATA)
06:14<olspookishmagus>ah this is what he's up to: https://blogs.gnome.org/uraeus/2017/09/19/launching-pipewire/
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06:23<brian-mac>jm_ I've added LimitDATA=unlimited
06:23<brian-mac>and VMDATA=unlimited for good measure
06:23<brian-mac>to the servicetools unit file
06:24<brian-mac>reloaded
06:24<brian-mac>and actually restarted
06:24<brian-mac>jm_ still getting kernel: mmap: tinydns (3347): VmData 307200 exceed data ulimit 300000. Update limits or use boot option ignore_rlimit_data
06:24<brian-mac>:/
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06:34<brian-mac>jm_ could it be something with linode kernel?
06:35<jm_>brian-mac: hmm do servicetools actually run with those limits now? cat /proc/<PID>/limits
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06:41<brian-mac>jm_ http://paste.ie/view/7c2a00aa
06:41<jm_>brian-mac: says it does not exist
06:43<brian-mac>jm - indeed it does - I can see the limit still exists on the process that is the actual tinydns process
06:43<brian-mac>let me dig in here some more jm_
06:43<brian-mac>thanks for time
06:43<jm_>no problem
06:43<jm_>brian-mac: but not on servicetools?
06:43<brian-mac>no
06:44<jm_>so maybe servicetools has an option to set the limits then
06:44<brian-mac>this is what I'm thinking
06:44<brian-mac>but there is something more funky going on here
06:44<brian-mac>we run tinydns in this manner quite a bit
06:44<brian-mac>and I just checked limits on other tinydns servers
06:44<brian-mac>Max data size 300000
06:44<brian-mac>and it never causes issue
06:45<brian-mac>so I think we're trying to fix symptom here rather than problem
06:45<brian-mac>must be something odd in linode kernel
06:45<jm_>or some weird query hitting this instance? I'd say that's more likely
06:49<brian-mac>its not public yet
06:49<brian-mac>I'm just hitting it with one test query
06:49<brian-mac>I've set jm_ in the daemontools run script for tinydns I've set this to unlimited
06:50<brian-mac>and it is now
06:50<brian-mac>I'll fire a couple of thousand queries at it now and see what happens :)
06:52<jm_>their page lists this softlimit -d300000 /usr/local/bin/tinydns
06:54<brian-mac>Which is what is on every other box and always works
06:54<brian-mac>I've removed this on this one and its working now
06:55<jm_>weird, I used daemontools maybe 15 or 20 years ago, don't remember, for qmail IIRC
06:55<brian-mac>yes
06:55<brian-mac>I'm just helping someone out who has legacy tinydns
06:55<brian-mac>haven't looked at this stuff in years either :)
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06:57<brian-mac>Cheers for help jm_
06:57<jm_>no problem
06:58<stevenm_>Lo, this.... echo libdvd-pkg libdvd-pkg/first-install note | debconf-set-selections; echo libdvd-pkg libdvd-pkg/post-invoke_hook-install boolean true | debconf-set-selections; apt-get -y install libdvd-pkg
06:58<stevenm_>In theory should install dvd support on debian 8 and 9 without asking any questions (as the only two questions are 1) a quick note and 2) a true/false - but handled by debconf-set-selections prior to installing the package)
06:59<stevenm_>but i'm finding on both 8 and 9 (and on physical machines and VM's that I can roll-back over and over) that actually the true/false question pops up regardless
06:59<stevenm_>so either i've done something dumb (I can't see it) or there is a bug in the package? (also can't see it)
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07:05<MikeDebian>hello all. I'm fighting with a RAID installation. I'm converting a single drive to a RAID 1. At the moment the array only has the new drive (it's missing the 1st drive). The new disk has all the data, grub is updated and installed on both drives and I'm now trying to boot from the array (which will boot from the 2nd drive actually) and on when selecting the correct option on grub I found a message saying that the /boot/vmlinuz... (kernel) was no
07:05<MikeDebian>t found
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07:06<MikeDebian>the grub configuration has the /dev/md/root UUID set there and I know grub is finding mdraid1x but is then no finding the kernel. why?
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07:25<gunix>MikeDebian: was the /boot partition only on your 1st drive? :D
07:25<gunix>MikeDebian: a lot of systems boot from 1 drive, and the raid is for the root partition without the boot partition, so you can't boot without the 1 drive, even if you have all data
07:26<MikeDebian>the 2nd drive is already a complete mirror of the 1st drives so /boot is there
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07:26<MikeDebian>I have no separate partition for /boot both boot and root (/) are in the same partition
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07:28<Iridos>grub can assemble a raid during boot an use a link that points there?
07:29<MikeDebian>and now playing with grub rescue prompt and to my surprise although I the 2nd drive and md returns when listing (ls), when listing (md/root)/boot it says file not found
07:30<MikeDebian>should I install grub directly on /dev/md?
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07:43<Iridos>seems we have some redhat machines that are set up like what you say… but I've never tried that on debian… so guess I can't help
07:44<Iridos>This seems somewhat similar to what you're trying https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/390219/does-grub2-support-boot-on-lvm-on-md-raid
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07:53<MikeDebian>Iridos, I'll give a look, tks
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07:57<MikeDebian>Iridos, I guess the problem may be that the current install does not use LVM
07:57<MikeDebian>so can't I migrate a non LVM single drive system to a raid system, right?
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07:58<grawity>hmm, I've successfully done that
07:58<grawity>though with non-RAIDed /boot
07:59<grawity>...wait, I don't have separate /boot on this system
08:01<MikeDebian>and..?
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08:02<grawity>hold on, are you setting up the md on a partition or on whole device?
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08:04<Woixjk>I have a separate boot device for that, grub is installed on a usb stick and the rest is on the md device
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08:06<MikeDebian>grawity, my first has only 2 partitions, root and swap
08:06<grawity>not what I asked
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08:06<MikeDebian>I replicated the same partitions on the 2nd drive
08:06<debian_question>Hello. I have a question: I cant install rdesktop, while it should be free and the main repos for security, backports and the normal should be activated via sources.list
08:06<MikeDebian>and then created md for each partition
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08:07<debian_question>apt-get cant find it. May somebody is able to help me?
08:07<jm_>!bat
08:07<dpkg>In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>.
08:07<jm_>debian_question: see above
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08:08<Iridos>MikeDebian, I think lvm only makes things more complicated… but yeah… if you don't use lvm that question may differ in some important points from what you have
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08:08<MikeDebian>I'm not using LVM and don't need/intend to. Just wondering if that was causing any trouble
08:09<Iridos>judd, versions rdesktop
08:09<judd>Package: rdesktop on amd64 -- wheezy: 1.7.1-1; jessie: 1.8.2-3+deb8u1; buster: 1.8.3-2+b1; sid: 1.8.3-2+b1; stretch: 1.8.3-2+b1
08:09<grawity>MikeDebian: well, I used metadata 1.2 and it seems to work well with grub2
08:09<MikeDebian>I see. It was supposed to be the same as mine
08:10<MikeDebian>I'm basically trying to follow this tutorial to convert it: https://www.guyrutenberg.com/2013/12/01/setting-up-raid-using-mdadm-on-existing-drive/
08:10<Brigo>,v rdesktop,
08:10<judd>No package named 'rdesktop,' was found in amd64.
08:10<Brigo>,v rdesktop
08:10<judd>Package: rdesktop on amd64 -- wheezy: 1.7.1-1; jessie: 1.8.2-3+deb8u1; buster: 1.8.3-2+b1; sid: 1.8.3-2+b1; stretch: 1.8.3-2+b1
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08:10<MikeDebian>and I've been able to do all steps so far. the problem is now booting the raid (still missing one drive)
08:11<Brigo>debian_question, you are right rdesktop is there. I guess you have apt repos missconfigured.
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08:12<debian_question>Yes, its because I did an offline install from dvd and it commented out everything and made the "main contrib" for stretch the default. I removed the # for those lines and removed contrib because I want only free software to have in usage.
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08:12<adelyne>debian_question, it may be stupid, but have you run "apt update"?
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08:15<debian_question>http://de.debian.org/debian stretch-updates main AND http://deb.debian.org/debian/stretch-backports main AND http://security.debian.org/debian-security/ stretch/updates main
08:15<itd>debian_question: 'de.debian.org'?
08:16<debian_question>Are the configured repos. Yes. I did a clean install from DVD without Internet and than I configured sources.list and ran an dist-upgrade which worked good. But rdesktop is not available
08:16<debian_question>* deb.debian.org It was just a typo here. I am working on another machine.
08:17<debian_question>I do see a problem. By the way, that a repo/sources.list and mirror config is not possible at an offline install makes things complicated.
08:17<debian_question>* I dont see a problem.
08:18<itd>debian_question: I'm confused. Did you ran 'apt update' after changing '/etc/apt/sources.list'?
08:19<DanieleV[m]>Hey guys, to move from stretch to sid is enough to change the repositories (/etc/apt/sources.list) and perform an update/upgrade or is recommended to do some other sort of operations?
08:20<debian_question>itd: No. I ran 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install rdesktop'. Also 'sudo apt-get install rdesktop' alone does not work.
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08:21<itd>DanieleV[m]: A backup and testing/sid is in #debian-next.
08:21<adelyne>debian_question, you should post the exact error or paste it somewhere, "does not work" can mean a lot.
08:21<adelyne>!paste
08:21<dpkg>Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>.
08:21<adelyne>!wgetpaste
08:21<dpkg>wgetpaste is a CLI application for sending text to a pastebin, its only dependencies are bash and wget. To install and use: wget http://wgetpaste.zlin.dk/wgetpaste-2.17.tar.bz2 && tar xvjf wgetpaste-2.17.tar.bz2 && cd wgetpaste-2.17 You can then use it as ./wgetpaste; e.g. dmesg | ./wgetpaste It is also safe to copy to /usr/local/bin for easier use.
08:22<adelyne>neat
08:22<Iridos>hm, seems sources.list changed a bit from jessie to stretch
08:22<debian_question>There is no error except "package not found"
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08:23<debian_question>thats only one line.
08:23<itd>debian_question: paste.debian.net has a webinterface. No need to install anything.
08:24<Brigo>debian_question, you miss a line like this: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ stretch main
08:24<Brigo>debian_question, you have a line for backports, security and updates, but you miss the main one.
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08:25<petn-randall>!stretch sources.list
08:25<dpkg>A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for "Stretch" has three lines: "deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ stretch main" "deb http://security.debian.org/ stretch/updates main" "deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ stretch-updates main". Be sure to run «apt update» after editing sources.list. Also see <deb-src> <contrib> <non-free> <stretch/updates> <stretch-updates> <mirrors> and "man sources.list".
08:26<adelyne>+1 for Brigo who patiently read debian_question's long message to find the error
08:26<Brigo>adelyne, thnaks! :)
08:27<debian_question>I am the first time here. Next time I will use the webinterface directly. Dont want to annoy you.
08:27<adelyne>I think we looked at it and thought "uh, seems right i guess"
08:27<debian_question>Very happy for getting the answer Brigo.
08:28<debian_question>Why does the installer not rollout a complete sources.list if it cant veryfy the ressources because its offline?
08:28<debian_question>It never rolled out the uncommented version of the normail main repo. If users are new to debian, they only remove # as me.
08:31<debian_question>Also because there is after a clean install no gui for it. I have never had an linux install before where it has no repos activated. And I always did offline installs.
08:32<b17>debian_question: keeping the cd/dvd as the source for 'stretch' component allows you to install other packages from it after first boot. So you can fine tune an installation without internet, and without reinstalling.
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08:33<debian_question>Thanks Brigo. b17 yes okay, but I commented the dvd-disk out, because its a fixed state and after install I am able to connect to internet with the OS.
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08:39<debian_question>I should have taken a closer look to https://wiki.debian.org/SourcesList which I looked already at. I expected the installer to move every repo line in the sources.list. I expected confuguring main/contrib/non-free also which was not the case. Is that a possible bug or feature request?
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08:41<debian_question>or a layer8-bug because I am a stupid Debian noob? I would accept that also :D
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08:42<herve>Bonjour tout le monde Hello everybody
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08:43<itd>debian_question: It is a feature that contrib/non-free is not enabled by default.
08:44<debian_question>yes but the repo-lines in the sources.list included it as uncommented. and the installer does not ask for it if you do an offline install
08:45<petn-randall>debian_question: Can you paste your sources.list? It's hard to follow what exactly you're talking about.
08:45<debian_question>I had to remove '#' and 'contrib' from those lines.
08:45<debian_question>Sure
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08:45<itd>herve: Hi, just ask if you have a question. :)
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08:46<herve>Ok itd thanks :)
08:46<itd>dpkg: fr
08:46<dpkg>Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr. Francophone users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr.
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08:46<itd>herve: Or join that channel. :)
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08:47<herve>itd: I am also, thank you
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08:50<debian_question>https://paste.debian.net/987823/
08:51<debian_question>The installer asked for backports and updates, but not which repo to use, and forgot to ask for contrib/nonfree usage. So if you do an offline install the lines have contrib by default included. but its uncommented. so no repo is active.
08:52<debian_question>if you remove uncommmting you enable by default than contrib. which should not be the case.
08:52<petn-randall>debian_question: You mean it's _commented_?
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08:52<debian_question>yes. because the installer fails to validate the repos (because its offline).
08:52<debian_question>but those lines include 'contrib' than
08:53<debian_question>But https://wiki.debian.org/DebianSoftware says "the default Debian install is configured to install only Free Software."
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08:56<b17>contrib pkgs are dfsg 'free' https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-archive.html#s-contrib
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08:58<debian_question>I will reproduce it at a virtual machine at work.
08:59<debian_question>b17: I have misunderstood that until now. thanks.
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08:59<b17>i've always done offline installs, ans iirc it has been this way since stretch.
09:00<b17>oops i meantsqueeze
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09:54<minikdo>Hi, can anyone help with NFS on Debian?
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09:55<itd>minikdo: Depends on your problem.
09:56<minikdo>I've got /etc/exports set to /abc 192.168.1.2(rw,anonuid=1000,anongid=1000,all_squash,subtree_check)
09:56<minikdo> abc files are 1005:1005 on server
09:57<minikdo>and I can't get them having 1000:1000 on client
09:57<minikdo>despite anonuid and anongid set to 1000
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10:05<itd>minikdo: And the username on server and client for uid 1000 is the same?
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10:05<minikdo>itd: yes, although the files in /abc are owned by uid 1005
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10:06<minikdo>1000 exists on both server and client with the same name
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10:23<broke>hello
10:24<broke>How can I manage the systemd's services?
10:24<broke>I mean what happened to update-rc.d?
10:24<broke>no longer works, or so?
10:24<Brigo>broke, they don't.
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10:25<Brigo>broke, with systemd there is not more script, but there is backwards compatibility.
10:26<Brigo>so you can use the scripts but it has no point creating the links.
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10:28<broke>Brigo: What should I use instead?
10:29<Brigo>systemd use config files called services. You should use them.
10:30<Brigo>broke, if you explain what you want to achieve maybe we can help
10:30<broke>Did you mean the command "service"?
10:30<broke>I want to manage daemons
10:30<Brigo>no, a config file one for each service (or script)
10:30<broke>start scripts
10:31<Brigo>you can start and stop them with systemctl
10:31<Brigo>and restart, etc.
10:32<broke>Yeah I've just figured it out but if I want to disable a deamon at the start up, what should I use?
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10:32<Brigo>you have to disble it
10:33<Brigo>like stop or start.
10:33<Brigo>sytemctl disable <your-script>
10:33<Brigo>systemctl*
10:34<broke>Yeah, I wanted to do this
10:34<broke>Thank you for the tip
10:34<Brigo>broke, np
10:35<broke>Brigo: Ah, is it possible to enable the TABulating in systemctl?
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10:37<Brigo>broke, it is a bash issue, not systemctl, and yes, you can add it in the /etc/
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10:37<Brigo>sorry, in .bashrc something like source /etc/bash_completion
10:37<broke>Brigo: I use zsh, ok
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10:37<Brigo>broke, then i don't know, i have never used it.
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10:39<broke>Ok, it's fine
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11:34<eijebong>Hey, I'm trying to build a debian-installer net image with a 4.9 kernel. So far I got it to build/boot but the installer doesn't find enough kernel modules in jessie-backports/debian-installer and just stops. Should I not set USE_UDEBS_FROM=jessie-backports in the debian-installer config ? Should I compile the kernel myself and use local udebs to have all modules ? Would really appreciate some help on that =)
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11:37<broke>spacebug^: hey
11:38<spacebug^>hi
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11:55<EmleyMoor>What's a good way to list all files below the current directory, with paths relative to it?
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11:57<EmleyMoor>find . -print seems good but TPMTOWTDI
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12:00<EmleyMoor>Ah... need to exclude directories too
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12:02<itd>-type d
12:02<itd>s/d/f - to list files, sorry.
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12:02<EmleyMoor>itd: Ah, yes
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12:37<ciaobello>is there a way to check the kernel Release Circle for the debian kernel or does it corespond with the release circle from https://www.kernel.org/category/releases.html? And can i see without installing a debian verson wich kernel is used?
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13:15<judd>Available kernel versions are: experimental: 4.13.0-trunk-686 (4.13.2-1~exp1); sid: 4.12.0-2-686 (4.12.13-1); buster: 4.12.0-2-686 (4.12.13-1); stretch-backports: 4.12.0-0.bpo.1-686-pae (4.12.6-1~bpo9+1); stretch: 4.9.0-3-686 (4.9.30-2+deb9u5); jessie-backports: 4.9.0-0.bpo.3-686 (4.9.30-2+deb9u2~bpo8+1); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.43-2+deb8u5); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae
13:15<judd>(3.16.39-1+deb8u1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.93-1)
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13:39<seppe>hi!
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13:39<infinity0>what do you guys use to stream / browse local music over the LAN?
13:39<seppe>guys, can anyone help me with KDE plasma, i'm quite new to it and am switching from gnome
13:40<seppe>i have this issue where when i search something in the search box, i can only type 1 character
13:40<seppe>same with krunner
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13:41<EmleyMoor>How, in vi, do I tell what line number I'm on?
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13:42<EmleyMoor>infinity0: I personally am keen on Amarok
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13:51<itd>seppe: Why can you only type one character? (What happens if you try to enter a second one?)
13:51<SubOptimal>EmleyMoor: You could type ':set number' to switch it on and ':set nonumber' to switch if off.
13:53<seppe>itd: Nothing happens: no input gets accepted. i tried using backspace but doesnt work either. sometimes i can't even type 1 character
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14:11<net29>hola
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14:12<annadane>!es
14:12<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
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14:19<itd>seppe: Other input field work fine? (E.g. a terminal) Do you have a on-screen-keyboard installed? Can you reproduce the issue with that keyboard?
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15:43<seppe>itd: everything else works fine, i have been using KDE pretty much all the time with that being a thing. just used kvkbd to test and i get the same result
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15:43<ciaobello>judd: thx, where can i get myself this info? things change and i would like to be able to find such infos on my own.
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15:48<itd>ciaobello: judd is a bit picky (= a bot). Either "/msg judd kernels" or https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/linux (I guess).
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18:41<crash>oi
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19:16<EmleyMoor>I want to use grep or similar to remove from a file all lines that do not end with one of two specific sequences of characters... let's say .abc and .defg - how would I do that?
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19:25<EmleyMoor>Solved
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