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01:36<rob_debian>I had to increase my swap area from my Debian Stretch 9.1 and for this, instead of doing change operations from the command line, I decided to use 'gparted' application for this purpose.
01:36<rob_debian>I needed to resize my swap area to 9 GB, so I could use an application that wants this size swap area to run properly
01:36<rob_debian>What happens is that now that I reboot my Debian, the black startup screen takes a long time and then it appears information that a job is running (it takes a minute and a half more for the startup to be completed.
01:36<rob_debian>In total, I'm now having to wait for about 3 minutes to boot my Debian, which used to take less than a minute.
01:36<rob_debian>Please can someone tell me how to solve this problem?
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01:46<jm_>rob_debian: identify what takes so long, journalctl command shall help
01:47<rob_debian>hi jm_ nice to meet you again !!:)
01:47<rob_debian>ok jm_, let me check it here
01:47<jm_>or start by looking at swap entry in /etc/fstab and compare to «blkid» output
01:48<somiaj>systemd-analyze can also help find long start services.
01:48<rob_debian>at first I thought about check anything related throgh /etc/fstab and 'blkid' with root privileges jm_, but realized I wouldn't be able to manage this situation alone
01:49<rob_debian>hi somiaj ! fine to meet you too here !! :)
01:49<rob_debian>ok, jm_ and somiaj, I'll check here...:)
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01:50<jm_>rob_debian: put both on the debian paste site
01:51<rob_debian>yes, jm_, I'm doing that. thank you very much !!
01:52<rob_debian>I have to interrupt my Debian research here a lot, cause I'm at job, but in few minutes I'll pass you. thanks !!
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01:55<rob_debian>well, jm_ there are tons of lines as the result of outupt 'journalctl' command.... how many lines do I have to copy here ?
01:56<rob_debian>or the first 300 lines ? more than 400 lines... more than 500 lines ?
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01:57<jm_>rob_debian: not here, on https://paste.debian.net, we need «blkid» and «cat /etc/fstab» to start with
01:57<rob_debian>yes, sure !
01:58<jm_>those should not have so many lines, journalctl is something we don't need for now
01:58<rob_debian>my paste debian is open already, only don't know how many lines to paste,for it looks like an eternal output for this command
01:58<rob_debian>ok
01:58<rob_debian>ok, just one moment, please, jm_
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01:59<rob_debian>here you are, jm_ https://paste.debian.net/988112/
02:00<jm_>you can also try systemctl show swap.target | grep Require and it should say something like "Requires=dev-sda2.swap" and then you go «journalctl -u dev-sda2.swap»
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02:01<jm_>yeah you now have two swap partitions, but neither one is mentioned in /etc/fstab
02:01<rob_debian>somiaj, there is 'systemd-analyze' output: r4fkramer@debian:~$ systemd-analyze
02:01<rob_debian>Startup finished in 35.096s (kernel) + 3min 4.360s (userspace) = 3min 39.457s
02:01<jm_>correction, the first one is not
02:01<rob_debian>let me here, jm_
02:01<jm_>rob_debian: so correct that first swap entry in fstab and it'll probably be fine
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02:05<cul3squ13r4>hola todos que tal
02:05<rob_debian>please, jm_: https://paste.debian.net/988114/
02:05<rob_debian>cul3squ13r4, only english here
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02:09<jm_>rob_debian: try just fixing the first swap entry in fstab
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02:13<rob_debian>jm_ I have two 'btrfs' partitions here: one if for parrot (not in discussion here, for it's not debian) with swap size about 3.72 GB (/dev/sda5). And, the other is for Debian, with swap size about 9.59 GB (/dev/sda4)
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02:14<rob_debian>please, should I use 'journalctl -u dev-sda2.swap' for the second swap partition (Debian one) ?
02:15<rob_debian>journalctl -u dev-sda2.swap - the output is: -- No entries --
02:16<jm_>rob_debian: no, sda2 is for me, for you it uses UUID to identify them - well you have two swap entries in fstab, find out which one is needed for debian and fix fstab
02:17<rob_debian>let me try it again, sorry, jm_ I'm so stupid to use Debian...ought to be more mature... :(
02:18<jm_>rob_debian: if what you said is correct, you should only have UUID 92fde84d-79ef-4194-812f-806c01b1ab23 in /etc/fstab for debian, but now you have 99db4561-b1c2-4eb6-b669-8f2d980e32e6 (I think this one causes long delay) and 7196f4bd-1f32-4058-b28c-a80d00c567c5, which is sda5 so brtfs' swap?
02:19<rob_debian>not so sure
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02:19<rob_debian>but /dev/sda5 is swap for parrot system, jm_
02:19<rob_debian>and /dev/sda4 is the resized swap partition for Debian
02:20<jm_>rob_debian: yes, that's what I just said, haven't I?
02:20<jm_>I should have said parrot's swap not btrfs'
02:21<rob_debian>oh, sorry jm_
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02:25<rob_debian>thanks a lot for great support, jm_ !!
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02:27<rob_debian>I'll try to fix this, a bit confused here, jm_, but I'll try to fix it according your instructions. Thanks a lot for Great Support !!
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02:27<jm_>rob_debian: just replace the wrong UUID with correct one and comment out the parrot's one and you should be all set
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02:32<rob_debian>please jm_ /dev/sda4 is my swap partition for Debian that was resized and as you said before, it's not in /etc/fstab file. do I have to include this line UUID=92fde84d-79ef-4194-812f-806c01b1ab23 so that it will be recognized and the issue is fixed ?
02:33<jm_>rob_debian: make a backup of current fstab, then replace 99db4561-b1c2-4eb6-b669-8f2d980e32e6 with 92fde84d-79ef-4194-812f-806c01b1ab23 in it, comment out the line with 7196f4bd-1f32-4058-b28c-a80d00c567c5 in it and that should be it
02:33<rob_debian>oh, you've already said to me. sorry :(
02:35<rob_debian>thanks a lot for Great Support, jm_, I'll try to fix it in some minutes :)
02:35<jm_>no problem
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02:57<rob_debian>jm_ I've finished my job here, I'll reboot the system now
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02:57<jm_>sure go ahead
02:57<rob_debian>now, I can work a little bit more with Debian here. see you, and will be back in few minutes to tell you about the result !
02:57<rob_debian>thanks ! see you :)
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03:00<rob_debian>Hi all !
03:00<rob_debian>Hi again jm_ and somiaj !! fixed here, now, Debian is rebooting as fast as before !!
03:01<rob_debian>jm_, the job service isn't being started again and all Debian operations here are just fine !!
03:02<rob_debian>Thanks a lot for that ! As I always say and I'll say forever: Debian Warriors were, are and will be forever the Best !!! :) Really thank you very much !!
03:02<rob_debian>see you jm_ and somiaj !! Bye !! God Bless You All !!!
03:02<rob_debian>Bye !!
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03:05<jm_>heh
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03:31<DanieleV[m]>I still can't figure out how to completely uninstall KDE 😞
03:32<jm_>!unintstall kde
03:33<jm_>!uninstall kde
03:33<dpkg>To remove or purge KDE: aptitude remove kdelibs-data kdelibs4c2a kdelibs5 kdelibs5-data libkdecore5. Use 'purge' instead of 'remove' if that's what you want (ask me about <purge>).
03:36<DanieleV[m]>dpkg: is not working unfortunately
03:36<dpkg>DanieleV[m]: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
03:36<DanieleV[m]>dpkg: i think so
03:36<dpkg>parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, DanieleV[m]
03:37<jm_>dpkg is a bot, and you may want to elaborate on not working, how is it not working
03:37<dpkg>jm_: You are person #1 to send an unparseable request
03:37<DanieleV[m]>I know that is a bot, I just having some fun
03:37<peb`>and we're all laughing with you
03:38<peb`>but how is it not working?
03:38<DanieleV[m]>https://paste.debian.net/988123/
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03:39<DanieleV[m]>peb`: shoul I try with kdelibs5* ?
03:39<jm_>just remove "kdelibs5" from the command
03:42<DanieleV[m]>mmmm ok
03:42<DanieleV[m]>I hope that is a clean uninmstall anyway
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03:43<DanieleV[m]>I hate to have pieces of old unused software around, even if is not a big issue
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04:21<brickb>Unable to start "Gnome (Xorg)" session on a buster box. Any idea?
04:24<jm_>try #debian-next
04:24<brickb>Will do. Not sure I was able to do it in strecth either.
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05:27<cnt>Hi
05:28<cnt>I need some help, Debian doesn't detect the wifi from my computer
05:30<sep>without details it is just a guess... per haps missing firmware ? https://wiki.debian.org/Firmware
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05:30<cnt>http://paste.debian.net/988149/
05:33<cnt>lsusb says: Bus 005 Device 002: ID 0bf8:100f Fujitsu Siemens Computers miniCard D2301 802.11bg Wireless Module [SiS 163U]
05:34<cnt>So I installed the package firmware-brcm80211
05:34<cnt>It didn't work. Do I have to install something more
05:35<cnt>The output of the lspci command is in http://paste.debian.net/988149/
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05:38<cnt2>I don't know how to troubleshoot
05:39<b17>cnt2:
05:39<b17>did you check dmesg for errors about the firmware?
05:39<cnt2>b17: How do I do that?
05:40<b17>grep is probably easiest, but you can just use dmesg command and scroll thru it.
05:41<b17>use the '/' key and search thru it.
05:41<cnt2>No errors apparently. Grep for network or wifi doesn't show anything
05:42<b17>the line will say firmware not found or direct lading firmware.
05:42<cnt2>I read a tutorial and apparently in the output of lspci I should see a Network controller or something
05:42<cnt2>b17: grep for firmware didn't find an error
05:43<cnt2>I'm using grep -i in case it not in lower case
05:43<cnt2>https://www.linux.com/answers/how-do-i-get-debian-see-my-wifi
05:43<b17>well did you get a line that says loaded?
05:43<cnt2>In that tutorial lspci listed a network controller
05:43<b17>pci and usb are different, whivh do you have?
05:44<cnt2>That's the weird thing pci didn't find any network controller
05:44<b17>cnt2: if you just slow down and think it thru you'll learn a lot really quickly, and get it working.
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05:45<b17>if it's usb it won't show up which lspci, ok?
05:46<b17>sometimes i have had good luck searching like this (from your lsusb output) '0bf8:100f linux'
05:47<b17>or 0bf8:100f debian would be good search term also
05:48<sep>cnt just install and run isenkram
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05:53<cnt>mmm...
05:53<cnt>What should I do with isenkrm
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05:54<cnt2>...
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05:58<petn-randall>,usbid 0bf8:100f
05:58<petn-randall>,pciid 0bf8:100f
05:58<judd>[0bf8:100f] is 'Unknown device' from 'Unknown vendor' with no known kernel module in stretch or in sid. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=0bf8:100f
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06:00<petn-randall>cnt, cnt2: Can you paste the complete dmesg output to paste.debian.net?
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06:05<cnt2>ok
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06:10<cnt>http://paste.debian.net/988156/
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06:11<cnt2>petn-randall: just pasted it
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06:12<petn-randall>cnt2: What kind of computer is this, and when was it released?
06:13<petn-randall>(roughly)
06:15<jm_>searching for "linux usb 0bf8:100f" I find very little, someone apparently used ndiswrapper
06:16<petn-randall>cnt2: After a quick google search, it seems that you can enable wifi with Fn+F2. If that works, we're good.
06:16<petn-randall>If not, let us know what model it is exactly.
06:17<petn-randall>FUJITSU SIEMENS AMILO (something something)
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06:18<b17>from dmesg FUJITSU SIEMENS AMILO La1703/E25, BIOS 8.4-0023-M007 09/07/2007
06:18<cnt2>At least wifi light has turned on now
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06:19<cnt2>I'm going to restart the computer now
06:19<petn-randall>b17: Indeed, but I guess it's only the internal and not the marketing name since I found little on the internet.
06:19<cnt2>FUJITSU SIEMENS AMILO La1703
06:19<cnt2>That's the model
06:20<petn-randall>cnt2: Is that also the label on the device itself?
06:21<cnt2>That's the model, it's labeled that way, below the compute
06:21<cnt2>*computer
06:23<petn-randall>cnt2: AFAICS you're out of luck, and you need to try getting it to work with ndiswrapper and the Windows driver.
06:23<petn-randall>cnt2: Probably a better alternative would be to just buy a 10$ USB wifi stick and use that. ndiswrapper + Windows drivers are always a difficult thing.
06:24<cnt2>It wasn't working in Windows either. But the problem in Windows was a virus I think
06:24<cnt2>What is ndiswrapper
06:24<cnt2>?
06:25<petn-randall>!ndiswrapper
06:25<dpkg>NDISwrapper enables the use of Windows XP (not Vista/7/8) network device drivers within the Linux kernel (x86 and x86-64 systems only). If a Linux kernel driver is available for your device, consider using that instead; for wireless LAN devices, ask me about <wireless>. To install NDISwrapper on Debian systems, see http://wiki.debian.org/NdisWrapper . http://ndiswrapper.sf.net/ #ndiswrapper on irc.freenode.net.
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06:27<cnt2>But I installed the wireless driver... firmware-brcm80211
06:27<cnt2>Do I need something more?
06:29<petn-randall>cnt2: That isn't the wireless driver for your card.
06:30<petn-randall>cnt2: That is firmware for certain broadcom wifi chipsets. You have a SiS 163U.
06:32<cnt2>which is the package?
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06:34<b17>cnt2: ndiswrapper is fairly difficult for a newbie, but I used it when I was a newbie. If you can get the machine online with wired internet, it might be a good solution.
06:34<b17>it took me several days to figure it out.
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06:35<petn-randall>cnt2: Look at the ndiswrapper factoid above. The wiki has it all documented.
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08:22<medicalwei>I think I broke dpkg
08:22<medicalwei>(The bot)
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08:23<medicalwei>dpkg: zh is 如果您想要以中文得到 Debian 相關的協助,請加入 irc.debian.org 或 irc.oftc.net 上的 #debian-zh 或 #dot 頻道,或 irc.freenode.net 的 #debian-cn 頻道
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08:23<petn-randall>!zh
08:23<dpkg>如果您想要以中文得到 Debian 相關的協助,請加入 irc.debian.org 或 irc.oftc.net 上的 #dot 頻道,連線與加入頻道的方法請參閱 IRC 程式之相關說明,或於網路上搜尋。謝謝您的合作!
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08:24<petn-randall>medicalwei: Not speaking a word of chinese, I assume it worked?
08:24<medicalwei>I want to update his. But the bot broke.
08:25<medicalwei>It isn't updated.
08:25<medicalwei>Whenever I want to set this, the bot disconnects itself.
08:26<medicalwei>Maybe that can be considered a kind of DoS attack.
08:26<petn-randall>medicalwei: You could ask in #debian-admin who administers the bots, if they don't do it themselves. It probably should get fixed.
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08:32<itd>dpkg: who owns you
08:32<dpkg>dondelelcaro does
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08:32<itd>Not sure if that counts. ;)
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10:48<oleg>Помогите мне пожалуйста! Очень надо!
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10:54<somiaj>!ru
10:54<dpkg>Это английскоговорящий канал, пожалуйста, говорите по-английски или посетите #debian-russian (irc.freenode.net) (Russian speakers please go to #debian-russian)
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11:46<nizzro>i cant connect to wi-fi from debian Xfce but I see all AP...
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11:46<nizzro>fresh system
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11:49<tda>I need to install exiqgrep, it's dependency of a munin plugin, but I can't find the package that has it. Is it in Debian?
11:49<tda>!exiqgrep
11:52<pron>oleg | Помогите мне пожалуйста! Очень надо!
11:52<pron>this sounded like a call for help on hangover lol
11:52<pron>pardon ;(
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12:38<b17>tda: you can find it from packages.debian.org in keyword search
12:38<b17>looks like exim4-base has a /usr/sbin/exiqgrep in it
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12:52<finster>hello there. i think i'm going slightly mad after the latest software updates & reboot on debian stretch. openvpn just does not pass through traffic any more. firewall is stopped. routes are properly set. openvpn is set to "verb 5", compression is disabled, mtu is matching on server & client end, but openvpn just drops packets
12:53<finster>on server side, that is. the client is a ubuntu 16.04 box. the server side is the part that i changed (through updates). and i can verify via tcpdump that packets from the client are actually reaching the server. also, i read README.debian.gz and followed the advice there.
12:53<finster>for now i resorted to starting the openvpn daemon manually to rule out systemd-related problems
12:53<finster>help!
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12:54<finster>what did change on debian's side in openvpn recently?
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12:57<petn-randall>finster: http://metadata.ftp-master.debian.org/changelogs/main/o/openvpn/openvpn_2.4.0-6+deb9u1_changelog
12:58<petn-randall>finster: That's the stretch changelog. There hasn't been an update since June.
12:58<petn-randall>finster: What is the output of 'apt-cache policy openvpn'? → https://paste.debian.net
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13:01<finster>http://paste.debian.net/988214/
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13:02<finster>apparently i had a backports openvpn package (v2.6x) inbetween. i downgraded to the stock stretch package (v2.4x). but that changed nothing
13:03<finster>btw: if there's a more appropriate channel i'll ask there
13:03<petn-randall>finster: Note that tcpdump/tshark read raw data from the network interface. You could still have a firewall dropping packets.
13:04<petn-randall>finster: Also, if you up- and then downgrade, you can still have config changes that happened and didn't get rolled back.
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13:04<petn-randall>(I'd check the config file timestamps)
13:05<finster>no, firewall isn't an issue (verified via iptables -L -n -v, also iptables -t nat -L -n -v)
13:05<jhutchins_wk>finster: maybe purge, reinstall, reconfigure.
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13:08<petn-randall>finster: Do you have backups of the working config?
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13:10<finster>petn-randall: the config didn't change (deployed via ansible, verified via git-log)
13:10<finster>so, openpvn purged & reinstalled (pulls in the backports openvpn, as it seems)
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13:13<finster>no luck, though
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13:17<petn-randall>finster: The backports version shouldn't get installed according to your apt pinning. (running ansible on Hetzner machines, too, btw ;) )
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13:17<petn-randall>finster: Do you see any connection attempts on the server logs? With what message do the clients fail?
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13:18<finster>the client does not fail. it establishes the tunnel successfully. if i ping from the client to the openvpn host (or a route behind the openvpn server), the packets reach the server and then nothign
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13:27*finster gives up for today
13:27<finster>thanks petn-randall and jhutchins_wk for your time and thoughts!
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13:42<jhutchins_wk>We have an Asus router with VPN (linux based). Windows stopped working with it for several months, then suddenly worked again.
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14:26<m_robot>i had installed sublime text 3 but when i search for it i dont see and any icon for it or image just the tect sublime?
14:26<m_robot>any ideas why doesnt it siplay the icon?
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14:27<m_robot>can i fix it some how, i dont even see the image of sublime as i had docked it on the launcher on the left
14:27<m_robot>?
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14:42<sdk>m_robot: Are you sure that the path for the icon in your .desktop is the good one.
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15:48<adhawkins>Evening all. Have a Debian box running as my internet gateway, providing internet access via NAT to an internal network.
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15:49<adhawkins>When it was on Jessie, I could make outgoing VPN connections from an internal Windows PC to my work's VPN.
15:49<adhawkins>Since upgrading to Stretch, I no longer can
15:49<adhawkins>As far as I can tell, firewall rules are still the same.
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15:49<adhawkins>I believe I have all the appropriate modules loaded.
15:49<adhawkins>Any suggestions as to how to diagnose this>
15:49<adhawkins>?
15:51<adhawkins>THis is the first line in my POSTROUTING chain of the nat table:
15:51<adhawkins>Chain POSTROUTING (policy ACCEPT 408K packets, 29M bytes)
15:51<adhawkins> pkts bytes target prot opt in out source destination
15:51<adhawkins> 153K 15M SNAT all -- * eth0 1.1.1.1/24 !1.1.1.1/24 to:2.2.2.2
15:51<somiaj>!paste
15:51<dpkg>Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>.
15:51<adhawkins>I've replaced my internal network address with 1.1.1.1/24, and the external net with 2.2.2.2
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15:52<adhawkins>somiaj: Apologies, I thought 3 lines would be Ok.
15:52<somiaj>adhawkins: by default debian has no firewall. Any iptables settings are things you have added.
15:52<adhawkins>somiaj: Yes. But the firewall rules I was using before the stretch upgrade worked fine.
15:52<adhawkins>I'm using the same rules since the upgrade.
15:53<adhawkins>I'm assuming it's something related to the kernel upgrade, perhaps some new module required, or smething in the firewall needing to be explicitly opened since the new kernel?
15:54<somiaj>netstat -a, what ip/port is the service actually listening on
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15:55<adhawkins>The VPN server is on my work network.
15:55<adhawkins>The client is internal to my network (behind my linux firewall)
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15:56<somiaj>well check your network, check netstat, check ip a, make sure your interface is still called eth1
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15:56<somiaj>sorry eth0. This could have been the change.
15:56<adhawkins>The network interfaces haven't changed.
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15:56<adhawkins>Not sure how netstat will help, as the connection is between an internal Windows machine to an external Windows server.
15:57<adhawkins>All IP addresses in the firewall match the actual addresses on the interfaces.
15:58<adhawkins>Like I say, as far as I can tell, the only change was the upgrade from Jessie to Stretch
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15:59<somiaj>just suggesing things to look at. I don't know iptables rules that well so I can't just look and see if anything is amis
16:00<blast007>is there any kind of logs from the VPN client?
16:00<adhawkins>blast007: Sadly, it's Windows, so it doesn't tell you an awful lot.
16:00<adhawkins>Will do some checking to see if I can find any.
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16:01<blast007>you could also run a tcpdump on the Debian router to see if it's even getting a response from the work network
16:01<adhawkins>I suspect what's actually happening is that the debian router isn't correctly passing packets to the work vpn.
16:01<adhawkins>Or from
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16:05<adhawkins>I guess I could use Wireshark on the client to see if I can work out at what stage it all breaks down.
16:05<adhawkins>Would need a working connection attempt to compare against thought.
16:06<adhawkins>Windows is logging an error 806
16:07<adhawkins>It says it's successfully establishing a link with the remote acccess server.
16:07<adhawkins>Then about 35 seconds later it says it failed.
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16:08<adhawkins>The error suggests a failure of the firewall to pass GRE packets.
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16:08<adhawkins>https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/rrasblog/2009/08/12/troubleshooting-common-vpn-related-errors/
16:09<adhawkins>I've done a quick grep for 'gre' in the modules I have loaded. I have the following:
16:09<adhawkins>ip_gre gre ip_tunnel nf_nat_proto_gre nf_conntrack_proto_gre nf_nat nf_conntrack
16:11<adhawkins>I also have nf_conntrack_pptp and nf_nat_pptp
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16:12<adhawkins>THe last comment on this page is interesting:
16:12<adhawkins>https://serverfault.com/questions/167485/pptp-gre-multi-forwarding-nat-iptables-example
16:13<adhawkins>"Like @kstep, this was working fine on my ArchLinux home server, but since I updated to kernel 4.7 last night, it just stopped working"
16:14<adhawkins>Now I need to work out why, and how to make that setting persistent
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16:18<adhawkins>Apologies if you get this line twice, my client isn't showing it.
16:18<adhawkins>sysctl net.netfilter.nf_conntrack_helper=1
16:18<adhawkins>That fixed it.
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16:24<adhawkins>Seems the 'correct' fix is to write some sort of rule that tells it which conntrack helper module to use for a particular protocol.
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16:27<adhawkins>This seems to be the 'correct' way to do it:
16:27<adhawkins>https://home.regit.org/netfilter-en/secure-use-of-helpers/
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17:48<Walex>adhawkins: thanks for the details
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17:49<yoga>Hi, I have created a NTFS partition for my data, I want it to be accessible by all users (read & write) from all system running on my laptop. However, only the root user have write access. Anyway to change that?
17:50<Walex>yoga: yes
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17:50<yoga>Walex: How? :)
17:52<Walex>yoga: look for the 'inherit', 'uid' and 'gid' and 'dmask' and 'fmask' parameters in 'man ntfs-3g'
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17:52<yoga>I have Any data on it yet, So if you have any file system to recommand that Windows ca read out of the box too, I'll take it.
17:52<Walex>yoga: the other one is UDF, but the problem is filesystem independent.
17:53<Walex>yoga: you have to map users and permissions in one OS to users and permissions in another, and it is a subtle issue.
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17:54<Walex>yoga: with NTFS-3g consider also looking at the 'usermapping' option in case you want something more sophisticated then setting 'uid' and 'gid'.
17:54<yoga>https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/NsHJnGLs/
17:54<yoga>that is the output of "man ntfs-3g"
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17:55<Walex>yoga: https://linux.die.net/man/8/ntfs-3g
17:57<yoga>Walex: oh... my bad
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17:58<Walex>yoga: you may want to use something like "rw,noatime,nls=utf8,inherit,umask=0002,uid=0,gid=0" with perhaps a different 'uid'/'gid'
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18:00<yoga>Walex: wooaw, I think I'll have to give up. I didn't have to do any of that with Windows
18:00<Walex>yoga: the problem exists both sides.
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18:08<yoga>well, I mean, I had NTFS file access (read write ) from all my linux system before I whipped Windows
18:09<yoga>Walex: I may Virtualise it though. seems easier.
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18:35<yoga>Guys, What filesystem do you recommand for a data only partition?
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20:08<yoga>I formated my data partition to ext4 but still don't have write access. Any idea about this?
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20:33<sney>yoga: you will need to mount it under a directory that your user has write access to
20:36<yoga>sney: It's working now after `sudo chown me:me /media/me/BKP/` and reboot
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21:24<Bossman01>First time debian user.
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21:38<Bossman>Hello all!
21:38*Bossman thinks quietly...
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21:49<b17>Bossman: congratulations
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21:56<Bossman>Why thank you good person!
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22:09<Bossman>"Is there anyone at home?"
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22:12<sney>Bossman: this is a support channel, so when nobody needs help it's pretty quiet. (and if you don't have a support question, #moocows and #debian-offtopic are better places to chat.)
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22:16<Bossman>Ah, I just installed Kali, and don't know all the channels, I'll hop on the website.
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22:21<dpkg>Kali Linux (http://www.kali.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on chat.freenode.net or http://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian>, and read http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html
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22:29<b17>Bossman: from what I have read, kali isn't meant to be used as an installed system?
22:30<bop>howdoyoudo, ladies and gentlemen! what package superseed octave-audio in stretch?
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23:58-!-saigkill is "Sascha Manns" on #debian #debian-gnome #debian-ubuntu #debian-welcome #packaging
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