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#debian IRC Logs for 2017-09-29

---Logopened Fri Sep 29 00:00:17 2017
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01:02<masterhacker>hi
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01:33-!-JanC_ is "Jan Claeys" on #apparmor #debian #debian-derivatives #debian-nl #epfsug #ext4 #linuxfs #linux-nfs #quodlibet #debian-fonts #bcache
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03:15<RuntimeException>!zh
03:15<dpkg>如果您想要以中文得到 Debian 相關的協助,請加入 irc.debian.org 或 irc.oftc.net 上的 #dot 頻道,連線與加入頻道的方法請參閱 IRC 程式之相關說明,或於網路上搜尋。謝謝您的合作!
03:15<RuntimeException>no way to change this?
03:15<jm_>sure there is
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04:00<m1sc>hey, I'm using virtualbox 5.1.28-117968~Debian~stretch (via 'deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian stretch contrib') with Vagrant. after resuming from suspend, CPU usage goes to 100% for vbox processes and networking seems to be broken, i.e. I have to restart the machine(s). any idea what could be the problem?
04:01<m1sc>there are many (years) old issues regarding similar problems, but no solutions as far as I saw
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04:05<jm_>if you are using packages from virtualbox.org contact them for help, i.e. use their forums or bug tracker
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04:18<Walex>m1sc: VirtualBox kernel driver is famously buggy
04:19<Walex>m1sc: send patches :-)
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04:21<m1sc>jm_ Walex: ack, thanks :)
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04:25<Walex>I often don't understand why people insiste on using VirtualBox on Linux which has LibVirt/QEMU/KVM and Xen...
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04:26<jm_>I started using it when KVM did not exist and have my windows installation in it, so I am stuck with it ;)
04:26<jelly>didn't at one point kernel people start to mark the kernel as TAINTED whenever vbox stuff was loaded, because even if open source, it was so buggy so often
04:26<jm_>for newer stuff I used kvm
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04:41<hiq[m]>Walex: isn't the GUI the obvious answer?
04:41<grawity>the virtualbox GUI *is* easier than the virt-manager GUI, imho
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05:15<m1sc>for me it's the fact that virtualbox is the default provider for Vagrant and if you want to have something which works out-of-the-box + on mac + not do self-build / use inofficial images..
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06:19<bop>howdoyoudo ladies and gentlemen! want to say thanks to kernel usb developers for hunting bug with usb internet connection!
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08:29<MadJack1899>Hi everybody. Does anyone have an idea how to install easystroke geasture control on debian? I can't find a solution on Google. Thanks!
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08:38<hiq[m]>MadJack1899: did you read this: https://github.com/thjaeger/easystroke/wiki ?
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08:39<hiq[m]>since it's not packaged in debian you'll have to go through some more steps in any case
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08:39<hiq[m]>if you don't manage to compile it / use it on Debian following the easystroke doc, you should report that to its maintainer(s)
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08:40<MadJack1899>hiq: yes i did, i'm still not able to install it. Thanks for the trouble.
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10:32<scott66>gnome-sudoku no longer gives me the option to turn on annotations. (The docs still say this feature is available.) What am I missing?
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10:37<tda>I am trying to get munin to monitor amavis, but it munin doesn't even suggest it. It looks like it should be able to read the logs, so I want to check if logtail is in the system path. How can I do that? What env variable is that?
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10:44<scott66>all questions, no answers
10:44<b17>tda: try echo $PATH or systemd-path, or which logtail?
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10:44<b17>scott66: did you check bugreports?
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10:46<scott66>b17: where do i look? (I did a google search for my particular bug earlier)
10:47<b17>i do this usually bugs.debian.org/gnome-sudoku
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10:48<b17>i never played it, but that seems like an important feature?
10:49<scott66>b17: found this: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=849680 (bug reported but not responded to)
10:49<judd>Bug http://bugs.debian.org/849680 in gnome-sudoku (open): «gnome-sudoku: earmarks/notes broken»; severity: normal; opened: 2016-12-29; last modified: 2016-12-29.
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10:50<b17>scott66: sometimes there are workarounds in bug reports, i use them a lot.
10:51<b17>but with gnome, there might be another bug tracker, upstream they call it. not sure where it is though.
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10:52<scott66>b17: thanks. sudoku is my go-to game for taking a break. i'm caught between wanting to take that break or spend time tracking down this bug. minor annoyances in the grand scheme of things.
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10:55<b17>scott66: why don;t you search for a gnome irc channel?
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10:57<b17>judd probably knows but i'm not great with the bot
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10:59<arvin>在吗
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11:02<scott66>b17: great idea. thanks.
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11:21<Asara>hey guys, I am running debian on AWS currently. rebooted my server and now it is infinitley stuck on ' A start job is running for LSB: Raise network interfaces'
11:21<Asara>Not sure what I should do to debug this
11:21<Asara>I can attach the FS onto another server
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11:21<Asara>or rather instance, but don't really know what to do from that point forward
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11:28<Asara>did an fsck, comes up fine. It seems like its something with the network adaptor, but i'm not sure how to resolve that issue. everything is set to dhcp in /etc/network/interfaces is set to dhcp
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11:30<b17>Asara: maybe a script hanging in /etc/network/if-up.d ?
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11:31<Asara>all i have in there is the defaults, mountnfs, openssh-server, postfix, sendmail, upstart
11:31<Asara>i could stop them all (other than openssh) and try it bring it up i guess
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11:39<Asara>alright I moved all the scripts out of there
11:39<Asara>same error
11:44<Asara>alright going to just try to set up a static IP instead of DHCP
11:44<b17>Asara: using auto will definitely wait for ifup i think, maybe you can try allow-hotplug and then after boot find out what has failed?
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11:46<Asara>well the only script in ifup was openssh-server
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11:50<b17>Asara: systemd has a rescue.target that might let you examine things while it's hung. Or maybe enabling a static journal would help. Other than that, maybe if you paste.debian.org your interfaces file someone can suggest something else.
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11:53<b17>this is probably why i am reading that ifupdown and systemd are having some issues.
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11:55<Asara>okay so when i set the static ip, the server came up, but it seems like it wansn't able to get an IP
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11:58<Asara>b17: https://paste.debian.net/988338/
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11:59<Asara>^^^ my interfaces file
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12:01<b17>Asara: well, yeh that doesn't bring up eth0 there's no auto or allow-hotlug line for eth0. Are you even sure of your iface name?
12:02<Asara>i assume its eth0. again it is on AWS, and it was def eth0 before i rebooted into this issue
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12:04<b17>not sure about the state of 'lo' interface but i usually see it as 'auto' and if you want eth0 up at boot then it needs an entry of auto or allow-hotplug.
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12:05<Asara>alright added auto to eth0. lets try this again
12:07<b17>i've gotten to where i use allow-hotlug instead of auto, but i don't run a server so i can't say it will work.
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12:09<Asara>alright allow-hotplug worked
12:09<Asara>with the static IP
12:09<Asara>still cannot figure out why dhcp stopped working suddenly
12:09<Asara>thanks a ton b17
12:10<b17>no problem hope it comes together good for you
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12:29<Asara>so it seems like auto breaks whereas hotplug works
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12:30<Asara>i removed the static ip and went back to dhcp + tried hotplug
12:30<Asara>and it works
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12:31<b17>Asara: think the issue is answering the question, "when is an iface up? when it gets and address? when it can ping? when udev sees it?"
12:32<b17>auto seems to cause a lot of issues lately, not sure why
12:33<Asara>when it can route traffic :)
12:33<Asara>thanks for the help b17, can finally get back to work
12:33<b17>L8r
12:34<tda>munin-node-configure --suggest won't suggest amavis for whatever reason. Enabling it manually works fine though.
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12:53<urzo>Is there a way to tell bash to forget a hashed PATH hit? I deleted a binary and i want it to resolve up the path
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13:00<urzo>nevermind, i found my answer: hash -d <command>
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13:48<urzo>Is there a way to pass a path to an alternate fstab file to umount? mount takes -T or --fstab, but umount, for some reason, doesn't support that same option
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13:55<feuGene>I'm running stretch and I want to install dpkg 'firmware-amd-graphics', but `aptitude install` is telling me "No candidate version found for firmware-amd-graphics". I have non-free in my sources.list (double check my config at http://paste.debian.net/988357/ ), and I've done `aptitude update`. what could be wrong?
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13:56<annadane>,v firmware-amd-graphics
13:56<judd>Package: firmware-amd-graphics on amd64 -- jessie-backports/non-free: 20161130-3~bpo8+1; stretch/non-free: 20161130-3; buster/non-free: 20170823-1; sid/non-free: 20170823-1
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13:56<annadane>strange. may be a mirror issue, you could try switching
13:57<blast007>verify you're seeing non-free and contrib sources in the output of 'apt-cache policy'
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13:58<feuGene>blast007 i do indeed see both there
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14:00<annadane>though you're using deb.debian.org
14:00<annadane>so it shouldn't be necessary...
14:00<feuGene>annadane, i tried using ftp.us.debian.org and got the same result
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14:01<annadane>what does apt-cache policy firmware-amd-graphics give you?
14:03<feuGene>firmware-amd-graphics:
14:03<feuGene> Installed: (none)
14:03<feuGene> Candidate: (none)
14:03<feuGene> Version table:
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14:15<feuGene>trying `apt-get install` instead of aptitude yields "Package firmware-amd-graphics is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source"
14:16<towo-vm>it's in non-free
14:16<towo-vm>if you do not have non-free in your sources, you or apt will never see it
14:17<feuGene>i do have it. see my sources.list at http://paste.debian.net/988357/
14:17<towo-vm>apt update
14:18<feuGene>hey that did the trick
14:18<feuGene>i had tried apt-get update and aptitude update; how is it different via just apt?
14:18<towo-vm>there is no difference
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14:23<feuGene>hm very strange; i'd run apt-get update and aptitude update several times over, and it would display outputs up to "Hit:7", then when i did apt update after your suggestion i saw it go up to "Get:30" and saw lots of extra stuff, including contrib and non-free, which were never appearing for apt-get or aptitude. but now when i run apt update again the output looks the same as the others
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14:24<feuGene>is there maybe a cache involved? (Get vs Hit...) is anything user-specific? (That is, should su behave differently than sudo-ing from my non-root account?)
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14:24<feuGene>my problem is solved now, i've installed the package, thank you; but i sure would like to know what the problem was
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14:27<snowden>hi ! :)
14:30<snowden>anyone here ,
14:30<snowden>?
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14:45<annadane>!ask
14:45<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
14:45<annadane>oh never mind then
14:45<annadane>so frustrating when they do that
14:45<somiaj>it is common, best to just ignore the noise and move on
14:46<blast007>some problems just have a way of solving themselves
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14:56<urzo>apt-get update keeps getting stuck on "waiting for headers"
14:56<urzo>iv've tried suggestions from all over the net
14:56<urzo>it's frustrating
14:58<urzo>is there something i can do to make apt give up faster on do something other than sit there on "waiting for headers" ?
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15:09<b17>urzo: tried disabling ipv6?
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15:13<urzo>yes
15:13<urzo>actually, i'm using -o acquire::forceipv4=true to do that
15:13<urzo>is that right?
15:14<urzo>i guess i expected apt to warn me if it wasnt
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15:17<b17>urzo: I run with ipv6 disabled altogether, so i never used that, are you sure all lower case is ok?
15:17<urzo>yeah
15:18<b17>using only debian repos of course?
15:19<urzo>i disabled the non-debian ones it was getting stuck on
15:19<urzo>it seems to be getting stuck on debian repos
15:19<urzo>but i probably still have some non-debian sources that are working
15:20<urzo>i've been trying it with and without a certain proxy
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15:20<urzo>i think the proxy is doing something funky like redirecting debian repos to their local
15:20<urzo>but it doesn't matter
15:20<urzo>either way it gets stuck, just in different places
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15:21<urzo>the proxy is on a hosting provider which probably has a lot of debian install customers, so they probably did some funky cache to accelerate that
15:22<urzo>but without the proxy is from my laptop at a public wifi access point
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15:26<urzo>i switched my mirror
15:26<urzo>i think it's workin gnow
15:28<urzo>apt should let you configure multiple mirrors and let it timeout and move on
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15:30<dboles>doesn't it?
15:31<urzo>maybe i should make a apt-mirror.local entry in /etc/hosts so i never have to edit /etc/apt/sources.list to change the mirror
15:31<urzo>woudl that work?
15:32<urzo>might even let me reuse the downloaded indexes in /var/lib/apt/lists ?
15:32<urzo>with different hosts
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15:35<b17>urzo: might be easier to just get sources that work and leave it alone?
15:36<urzo>my old mirror used to work
15:36<urzo>changing mirror is annoying because the same host is referenced by a bunch of entries
15:37<b17>deb.debian.org has been very reliable for me, but i know at one time there were some issues, maybe in different regions?
15:37<dboles>s/oldhost/newhost/g
15:37<urzo>well, it's finished, thanks
15:38<urzo>dboles, that was dirtying my comments which had some results of apt-select
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15:38<dboles>there'll be a way to exclude comments by regex too :) though it's not on the tip of my tonque
15:38<urzo>yeah
15:39<urzo>well i know this, but i've never tried the /etc/hosts thing and i'm curious if it'd break anything
15:39<urzo>i guess it requires hard-coding an ip address that might change
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16:13<Megaf>is it possible to pass --no-install-recommends --no-install-suggests to debootstrap?
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17:21<Megaf>Hi all
17:21<Megaf>is it possible to pass --no-install-recommends --no-install-suggests to debootstrap?
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17:27<somiaj>Megaf: yes but it is suggested you don't. First suggests will not be installed by default, second in most cases you want the recommended packages.
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17:28<somiaj>Megaf: actually I maybe wrong, you may not be able to disable recommended package installs using debootstrap.
17:28<somiaj>I just checked the man page and didn't see anything
17:29<Megaf>somiaj, you are not wrong, on a normal desktop you sure want the recommended. But not on very specific scenarios
17:29<Megaf>I just can't find anywhere how to do that
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17:34<AndroUser>Hello
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17:36<Megaf>Heya
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17:44<AndroUser>Ido install debian ferst one
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17:45<Megaf>ok
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17:46<AndroUser>I looking only line and oll
17:46<somiaj>Megaf: maybe look at embedian, they may have ways to deal with more minimial situations. debootstrap may not actually resolve packages more than have a list it knows and downloads too. So i'm unusre if at the debootstrap stage you can do that much control, unless you stop at one of the earlier stages in the porcess.
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17:48<Megaf>AndroUser, where are you from?
17:49<AndroUser>Russia
17:49<Megaf>somiaj, isnt emdebian quite abandoned?
17:50<somiaj>I'm unsure, but they may have some hints
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17:51<Megaf>Do we have a Russian channel?
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17:52<Gabriel_7>#debian-ru? noone there however
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17:52<dboles>!ru
17:52<dpkg>Это английскоговорящий канал, пожалуйста, говорите по-английски или посетите #debian-russian (irc.freenode.net) (Russian speakers please go to #debian-russian)
17:52<AndroUser>I installing 2 week os linux. Stoped about Debian
17:52<dboles>different name :P
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17:53<AndroUser>Yes
17:53<dboles>more than 0 people, but still not many. Gabriel_7: seeing 0 users might simply mean that when you tried to join a room that didn't yet exist, the server created it for you
17:53<Megaf>AndroUser, /join #Debian-Russian
17:55<Megaf>!uk
17:55<dpkg>i guess uk is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and comprises the countries of England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland. (Under ISO 3166-1, it should have been .gb not .uk, but that never quite caught on.)
17:55<Megaf>!ukr
17:55<Megaf>!ur
17:55<dpkg>Ur is the ancient Sumerian city that dominated Mesopotamia from 6000 BC to 600 BC. If you mean "you are" or "your", just say so. Also swedish for clock, and a word meaning "from within". A german prefix for refering to something very old. Urdu, a language based on the arabic script spoken like hindi. For Debian support in urdu/hindi join #debian-ur. Urdu/punjai/hindi support ke liye #debian-ur mein tashreef le ayen. Shukrya.
17:55<Megaf>Ukraine?
17:55<Megaf>!Megaf
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18:04<dboles>if you want to sweet-talk dpkg, /msg is less noisy
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19:16<znoteer>is jessie-backports from http.debian.net considered unofficial in terms of section 4.2.5 of the Stretch release notes (https://www.debian.org/releases/stretch/amd64/release-notes/)?
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19:20<rudi_s>znoteer: In a way yes, you should remove the backports lines from apt/sources.list before updating. But they are supported in the sense that updates from jessie + backports to stretch are supposed to work just fine.
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19:21<gim>ola
19:21<gim>sudo
19:21<znoteer>rudi_s: thanks
19:21<rudi_s>np
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19:56<jean_>tex-common always hangs on installation after upgrade. I cannot even kill the process. 4.12.0-2-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.12.13-1 (2017-09-19) x86 I googled but nothing is helping. I cannot even tell what is wrong. ANy ideas?
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20:45<r2murphy>anyone in here?
20:46<MadJack1899>yep
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20:48<r2murphy>oh
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20:49<r2murphy>It has so many people in here but no one is talkign
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20:50<MadJack1899>I think this channel is just for asking questions
20:52<r2murphy>oh ko
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20:53<r2murphy>so I'm guessing everyone is here to give answers to the questions
20:54<MadJack1899>i think that's the idea. But hey, if you wanna chat maybe we can find another channel?
20:54<r2murphy>sure. I'm pretty new to this so just lead the way then
20:54<MadJack1899>Me too
20:57<MadJack1899>i think #publiclab is for chatting. Wanna join?
20:57<r2murphy>yea
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