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03:27 | <jarnos> | Is it possible to lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock so that you can choose packages before running a 'apt purge' command or 'dpkg --purge' command, so that you could be sure there has not been any changes in package database before you run such a command? |
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04:10 | <rob_debian> | Hi all, I have two btrfs partitions and two swap partitons (one for parrot security linux and the other for Debian Stretch ). I intend to delete parrot partitions completely. /dev/sda1 is parrot partition; /dev/sda5 is about its swap partition. and there is /dev/sda2 - extended partition - between parrot and debian ones. should I remove extended partition also ? |
04:11 | <rob_debian> | please, should I remove extended partition also ? (/dev/sda2) |
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04:16 | <rob_debian> | I intend resize my Debian 'btrfs' partition. But, should I have to delete extended partition also ? (/dev/sda2) |
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05:12 | <jarnos> | Why does apt not display error message when I run the script as superuser? https://pastebin.com/i28V32nk |
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05:40 | <b17> | jarnos: maybe this? http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/subshells.html |
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05:44 | <jarnos> | b17, lock file is not dependent on subshell. |
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05:46 | <b17> | jarnos: "jarnos> Why does apt not display error message..." |
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05:57 | <b17> | jarnos: the redirection works here, not sure what it's for though... paste.debian.net/988436 |
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05:58 | <b17> | i meant redirection does NOT work |
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06:29 | <jarnos> | b17, the code is not supposed to redirect stdout or stderr, but to lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock so that apt or dpkg would notice. |
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07:03 | <grawity> | jarnos: I suspect the difference is that apt uses POSIX locks, not BSD |
07:04 | <jarnos> | grawity, how would you use POSIX locks on POSIX shell? |
07:04 | <grawity> | they used to work better via NFS, although they have kinda awful semantics for shellscript usage (closing *any* fd unlocks the file) |
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07:05 | <grawity> | you can use them with `lckdo` but you'll have to run the whole script through it |
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07:05 | <grawity> | no fd>lock tricks |
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07:05 | <grawity> | see also `sudo lslocks | egrep "apt|dpkg"` |
07:06 | <jarnos> | grawity, "lslocks: command not found" |
07:07 | <grawity> | that's been part of util-linux for quite a while; are you on oldstale |
07:07 | <grawity> | meanwhile `lckdo` is in moreutils |
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07:09 | <jarnos> | util-linux: "Installed: 2.20.1-5.1ubuntu20.9" |
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07:19 | <grawity> | that actually corresponds to Debian's oldoldstable :| |
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07:28 | <chronics> | I have problem where I cant switch users, I can see from logs this is happening on DISPLAY:0.0 but my environment variable says DISPLAY:1.0, could gdm be trying to switch users on the wrong display? |
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07:30 | <jarnos> | grawity, lslocks does not tell anything about /var/lib/dpkg/lock |
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07:53 | <DanieleV[m]> | Hey guys, do you know if there is a matrix bridge for the debian-next IRC channel? Like this one |
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07:53 | <DanieleV[m]> | I can't find it in the matrix list |
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08:02 | <jarnos> | grawity, I can confirm that lckdo can create lock e.g. synaptic recognizes unlike flock. In reverse, lckdo recognizes lock of synaptic, unlike flock. It is odd as flock is supposed to deprecate lckdo (according to man page of the latter). |
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08:06 | <grawity> | for shell scripts, BSD locks are easier to deal with |
08:07 | <jarnos> | I am not sure, if I can solve the original problem by lckdo either. If I lock the database, and want to run 'apt purge <some package>' right after unlocking, I can not be sure there is not another process waiting first in queue to do something with the database before my apt command. |
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08:07 | <grawity> | I guess flock developers didn't actually plan on it being used against other programs |
08:07 | <grawity> | but rather for multiple instances of the same tool only |
08:07 | <grawity> | well ... sure, locking solves exactly that |
08:08 | <grawity> | or do you consider it a problem if `apt` itself exits with an "already locked" error |
08:08 | <grawity> | you could do the locking manually and call apt with Debug::NoLocking set |
08:09 | <grawity> | i.e. have the same lock cover several operations at once |
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12:27 | <luichi> | hello |
12:29 | <luichi> | i have debian 9 with kde, updated and i resumed after ~1 horus suspend and the login prompt appeared like 1 second and then dissapeared without entering any password enabling me to use the desktop normally, how can i see any log of what happened? |
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12:52 | <Walex> | luichi: most likely the screensaver kicked in |
12:53 | <Walex> | luichi: there are several logs involved. Check '~/.xsession-errs' or something similar |
12:54 | <brj> | HexChat: 2.10.1 ** OS: Linux 3.16.0-4-586 i686 ** Distro: "BunsenLabs"I ""bunsen-hydrogen"" "8.9"enLabs"I ** CPU: 1 x Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU N2840 @ 2.16GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 2.45GHz ** RAM: Physical: 1.9GiB, 84.5% free ** Disk: Total: 105.4GiB, 93.0% free ** VGA: Intel Corporation Atom Processor Z36xxx/Z37xxx Series Graphics & Display ** Sound: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel PCH ** Ethernet: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8101E/RTL8102E |
12:54 | <brj> | PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller ** Uptime: 20m 34s ** |
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12:57 | <Guest5731> | HI |
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14:19 | <david> | I have an SSD and just installed debian I noticed it said it wrote 1's and 0's to encrypt the drive. I think that is not the right thing to do and may be bad for my SSD. I'm reading that SSD's have built in hardware encryption called AES. |
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14:21 | <EmleyMoor> | Is it just me or, at least when using Chrome, is imdb's search box doing something silly tonight? |
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14:27 | <Nemoder> | works for me in firefox and chromium |
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14:27 | <amruthjiths> | hi |
14:29 | <amruthjiths> | hellooo |
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14:33 | <david> | How do I install the kernel source files so I can install the NVidia driver? |
14:34 | <david> | Also, did the installer heart my SSD by doing encryption? I feel bad. |
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14:34 | <david> | I think if it wrote 1's 0's then it will wear it out more and also run slower if it is full. That is not good. If that is right I expect there should be a warning to not use LVM on SSD's. |
14:35 | <david> | I thought I would have to do more manual things but I still expected a warning for something like that. |
14:36 | <david> | Also, last time I installed it asked me for a root password, so I gave it one. Well, I learned that is not default behavior and you should not give it one and so I could not do anything with the install using sudo and it was useless. |
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16:02 | <idkCpp_> | Can someone help me with my apt repo? Since I changed the config to support 2 seperate dists I get errors about my InRelease not being signed. This is my InRelease: http://repo.adminlounge.org/dists/jessie/InRelease And this would be the pubkey: http://repo.adminlounge.org/archive.key |
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16:20 | <FlynnTaggart> | hi guys! |
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16:22 | <FlynnTaggart> | Guys i'm searching for a program, to use it as a super simple, yet fast, data base for my clients in my job. an alternative to excel or any other spreadsheet. |
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17:09 | <hthoreau> | Hello there. |
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17:10 | <hthoreau> | I'm trying to create a Debian Stretch VM. |
17:10 | <hthoreau> | It seems that I'll be needing a "initrd.img" file in order to do that. |
17:11 | <hthoreau> | I don't know how to generate one of those. |
17:12 | <Brigo> | hthoreau, you can use mkinitramfs |
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17:16 | <hthoreau> | Brigo: I'll look into it, then. |
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18:58 | <rob_debian> | Hi all ! Please, Hi all, I have two btrfs partitions and two swap partitons (one for parrot security linux and the other for Debian Stretch ). I intend to delete parrot partitions completely. /dev/sda1 is parrot partition; /dev/sda5 is about its swap partition. and there is /dev/sda2 - extended partition - between parrot and debian ones. should I remove extended partition also ? |
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19:49 | <rob_debian> | Please, anyone help me on this: should I have to delete this /dev/sda2 extended partition ? |
19:49 | <rob_debian> | https://imgur.com/a/xYaMV |
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20:22 | <Gaius> | @rob_debian: Why would you want to delete it? It's not that you need the space. In addition, does it contain logical partitions, and if yes, do you need those files? |
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21:18 | <rob_debian> | Hi Gaius, sorry for answering late here, I was away. well, I don't know why do I have to maintain this extended partition here. technically specaking, if I intend to install another OS in the space not allocated as it's shown in the image, should I need this /dev/sda2 extended partition ? |
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21:23 | <iflema> | it looks like no. |
21:24 | <Gaius> | Nope, you won't need it for a future OS. I guess you have set up this extended partition during an earlier installation. Just have a look at what's inside. If it doesn't contain any logical partitions which in turn contain files you still need, you might as well delete it. |
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21:25 | <iflema> | shes a empty |
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21:28 | <iflema> | i cant remmber how this works... 3 and 4 stay as 3 and 4 if 2 gets removed... yeah? Otherwise make sure the btfs OS has UUID or LABEL or some such. Pretty sure 3 and 4 will stay the same... not positive... I cant remember |
21:30 | <rob_debian> | ok, Gaius, I think that it's not going to affect the btrfs primary partition (where Debian Stretch is installed) |
21:30 | <rob_debian> | I just needed to confirm that, thanks ! |
21:30 | <rob_debian> | hi iflema ! thank you for information ! |
21:31 | <iflema> | o/ |
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21:31 | <rob_debian> | well, iflema, here is the outuput of blkid: /dev/sda3: UUID="e835088e-9f2f-479f-8ca7-c7de63ebdf66" UUID_SUB="6d488342-ef66-49f3-a5d1-9819327292c9" TYPE="btrfs" |
21:32 | <Gaius> | Just make sure that extended partition doesn't contain any Debian files, for whatever reason |
21:32 | <rob_debian> | well, now I'm a bit worried about it, Gaius... |
21:33 | <iflema> | rob_debian: ok. So if things do move and the nuber change... make sure /etc/fstab in debian does not have device numbers. |
21:33 | <rob_debian> | to check if there is any Debian files in this partition, please, how to check it ? |
21:33 | <rob_debian> | I don't know, iflema, but I can check it now... |
21:35 | <iflema> | stretch should have used UUIDs so it should be ok either way |
21:35 | <iflema> | mount the btrfs partion and confirm the /etc/fstab is using UUID, if you want |
21:36 | <rob_debian> | iflema, please, have a look on it... it looks ok for me, but... I'm not so sure: https://imgur.com/a/WEOQw |
21:36 | <rob_debian> | it's using UUID, I think.... |
21:37 | <iflema> | rob_debian: all good. If the number do drop down (pretty sure they dont) itll be ok anyways... |
21:37 | <rob_debian> | fine, so, can I delete /dev/sda2 (extended partition) ? |
21:37 | <iflema> | i say YES |
21:38 | <iflema> | rob_debian: but you should always have a backup if it is important data |
21:39 | <rob_debian> | please, iflema, see through gparted: https://imgur.com/a/Pno4a |
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21:39 | <iflema> | rob_debian: get rid of it :D |
21:40 | <rob_debian> | sorry, my english is going to be terrible, iflema.. you said: get rid of it... ? |
21:40 | <rob_debian> | let me try to follow you using google here, lol |
21:41 | <iflema> | Delete it. But be carful what you delete, make sure to delete the right thing and as always... if its important back it up first. |
21:41 | <rob_debian> | oh, fine !! |
21:42 | <iflema> | =) |
21:43 | <rob_debian> | I'll delete it using 'gparted', iflema, no risk to delete the wrong partition. My Debian is running perfectly here ! It would be a really nightmare deteling it accidentally, thank you for advice !! :) |
21:46 | <rob_debian> | I'll do it iflema. I'm not so sure, but when I initialize Debian, it displays the following message:"Gave up waiting for suspend/resume device" This message didn't use to be displayed before |
21:47 | <rob_debian> | probably it's related to this 'extended partition', that was created when I installed 'parrot security' to run in dual boot mode here (Parrot and Debian) |
21:48 | <iflema> | verify the UUID of swap partition and what fstab has |
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21:49 | <rob_debian> | ok, iflema, just one moment, please. |
21:49 | <Gaius> | ... mentioning earlier that you are dual booting might have been useful :) |
21:49 | <rob_debian> | and thank you very much for Great Support ! :) |
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21:49 | <rob_debian> | oh, sorry, Gaius, I was stupid again :( |
21:50 | <rob_debian> | in fact, I was using both systems: parrot and Debian |
21:50 | <iflema> | so what verify UUID of swap in fstab and reformat the swap? |
21:51 | <iflema> | err |
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21:53 | <rob_debian> | iflema, btrfs partition for Debian is really: UUID=e835088e-9f2f-479f-8ca7-c7de63ebdf66 (both in /etc/fstab and 'gparted' information) |
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21:54 | <iflema> | rob_debian: dual booting is not the best idea |
21:54 | <iflema> | rob_debian: they must have shared the swap |
21:54 | <rob_debian> | and swap partition is UUID=92fde84d-79ef-4194-812f-806c01b1ab23 (both in /etc/fstab and 'gparted') |
21:54 | <iflema> | rob_debian: so you in debian now? |
21:55 | <rob_debian> | yeah, iflema, 'btrfs' partition for parrot and its swap are were deleted |
21:55 | <rob_debian> | only running Debian here |
21:55 | <rob_debian> | that's the situation now on this hard disk: https://imgur.com/a/Pno4a |
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21:58 | <iflema> | id say if you reformat the swap then you will not see a warning about resume |
21:59 | <iflema> | rob_debian: so if you reboot now you would still see the warning aout resume |
21:59 | <iflema> | ? |
22:00 | <rob_debian> | probably yes, iflema, as before |
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22:00 | <iflema> | rob_debian: make sure the fstab UUID matches that of blkid |
22:00 | <iflema> | rob_debian: the swap UUIDs |
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22:00 | <rob_debian> | you mean: the same UUID valour, both through 'blkid' and etc/fstab check ? |
22:01 | <iflema> | rob_debian: do blkid and make sure what it has for the swap UUID is the same as the fstab swap UUID |
22:02 | <iflema> | rob_debian: it looks/sounds like parrot used debians swap |
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22:03 | <rob_debian> | yes, iflema, I've checked here through blkid: UUID for swap is the same in both output (blkid and /etc/fstab); the same for btrfs partition |
22:03 | <iflema> | rob_debian: you may have to reformat the swap partition |
22:03 | <ryouma> | dunno if relevant, but the initramfs has a resume file taht can get out of sync |
22:04 | <iflema> | ryouma: fstab says partition? |
22:04 | <iflema> | https://imgur.com/a/WEOQw |
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22:05 | <iflema> | news to me |
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22:05 | <rob_debian> | do I need to reformat swap partition but I continue maintaining extended partition ? |
22:05 | <iflema> | id have sorted it by now :P |
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22:07 | <iflema> | rob_debian: if you do need to reformat the swap the UUID will change... savvy? |
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22:08 | <rob_debian> | for me, swap was ok, only worried about this /dev/sda2 as I told you (why the need of extended partition for this case ?) |
22:08 | <rob_debian> | but, anyway, I'll reformat it, according your instructions, iflema |
22:08 | <iflema> | rob_debian: type free at a terminal |
22:08 | <iflema> | rob_debian: you have no swap |
22:08 | <rob_debian> | ok |
22:09 | <rob_debian> | https://paste.debian.net/988506/ |
22:10 | <iflema> | lol |
22:10 | <rob_debian> | why, iflema ? |
22:10 | <iflema> | not sure where/when your seeing the warning... but anyways... delete that dsa2 |
22:10 | <iflema> | sda2 even |
22:11 | <iflema> | hang on was it 2 |
22:11 | <iflema> | lol |
22:11 | <iflema> | m |
22:11 | <rob_debian> | ok, but curious here... you reacted like that: lol, after have seeing my image |
22:11 | <iflema> | you do have swap space... |
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22:12 | <iflema> | rob_debian: no idea where your seeing the warning or why but you are in debian and you do have swap space... |
22:13 | <iflema> | its kina funny |
22:13 | <rob_debian> | oh yeah, almost 10 GB swap, it seems ridiculous, but I need at least about 8 GB to install SAP ERP in Debian |
22:13 | <iflema> | like my keyboard |
22:15 | <iflema> | rob_debian: no... its funny there is a warning about resume when you swap is working ok |
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22:16 | <rob_debian> | oh, I see... |
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22:16 | <rob_debian> | well, iflema, I'll delete /dev/sda2 |
22:16 | <iflema> | rob_debian: anyways... the UUIDs are there so if device numbers change for some reason the OS will still boot |
22:16 | <rob_debian> | according your instructions |
22:18 | <rob_debian> | ok, iflema, and I will install parrot again on the not allocated space ( or resize Debian partition to use the entire hd and make Debian a pen testing Distro ) |
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22:18 | <iflema> | rob you could move /root upfront and mount /home on sda3. That is rather easy |
22:19 | <iflema> | rob_debian: perhaps another day... |
22:20 | <rob_debian> | ok, iflema,if you consider it better, I'll do, but, please how can I do it ? I could do it now if I had any procedure for that... |
22:20 | <iflema> | lool |
22:20 | <rob_debian> | yeah ! quite stupid in Debian here :( |
22:21 | <iflema> | bit offtopic but it is a debian machine |
22:21 | <iflema> | and the chat is not exactly scrolling 10 messages a second |
22:21 | <rob_debian> | oh, I see, iflema |
22:22 | <rob_debian> | that's not our case here, right ? |
22:22 | <Gaius> | haha, rob is just keeping you amused, iflema :D |
22:22 | <iflema> | rob_debian: ill leave it up to you |
22:22 | <iflema> | Gaius: possible |
22:22 | <rob_debian> | what ? |
22:23 | <iflema> | some people waste other people time for fun... but you need to know what your doing... |
22:23 | <rob_debian> | oh, no Gaius, I'm still really newbie in Debian, unfortunately... just trying to understand this procedure... |
22:24 | <rob_debian> | that's not my case here, iflema, I respect a lot your job here, providing Great Support for everyone... |
22:24 | <Gaius> | relax, rob, I was just kidding :) |
22:24 | <iflema> | s/great/dodgy |
22:24 | <iflema> | lol |
22:26 | <rob_debian> | I'm just trying to understand how to move /root upfront and mount /home on sda3. Gaius. iflema said it's easy, but I'm suffering headache now, I'll have to take an aspirin here :( |
22:26 | <rob_debian> | really confused here, sorry :( |
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22:28 | <iflema> | rob_debian: fstab is the key. I tells the system what is where. But to move thing around on a system you are booted in can get tricky... |
22:29 | <iflema> | rob_debian: do you have a live installer for debian on CD or USB? you could use that to resize the one big parttion and edit fstab |
22:29 | <rob_debian> | ok iflema |
22:30 | <rob_debian> | the debian installation dvd you mean ? I have it here |
22:30 | <iflema> | rob_debian: just remember if you change a partition the UUID will change and fstab will need an edit... yeah? |
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22:33 | <rob_debian> | ok iflema, these are corresponding actions... if you do here, you have to do over there.... ok ! I'll not forget it |
22:33 | <rob_debian> | thanks iflema and Gaius for Great Support ! :) |
22:33 | <Gaius> | No, not the Debian installation DVD, rob. At least not unless you've installed from a Live DVD. A Live DVD or USB flash drive allows you to run Debian from the DVD or USB, without actually installing it. That's much safer and easier than trying to play with partitions in an active system |
22:34 | <Gaius> | Live DVD is available from the Debian website, same as your installation DVD |
22:34 | <rob_debian> | oh, ok Gaius, I don't have this media but I will get it |
22:34 | <iflema> | rob_debian: yeah... something like that. If you resize the btrfs its UUID will change - you find it with blkid and edit fstab and it will boot |
22:34 | <rob_debian> | yes, Gaius, I've alread seen it one time when I used wheezy |
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22:35 | <rob_debian> | ok iflema, thanks for informations and Great Support provided here !:) |
22:36 | <rob_debian> | Thank you for informations and Great Support too, Gaius ! :) Always happy talking and learning from Debian Warriors ! |
22:36 | <rob_debian> | I must go now. see you !!! Thank you very much !!! |
22:36 | <iflema> | rob_debian: backup and play around i say |
22:36 | <Gaius> | see you, rob |
22:37 | <iflema> | o/ |
22:37 | <rob_debian> | I'll do it iflema, I'll follow rigorously your and Gaius instructions iflema ! God Bless you !! |
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