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#debian IRC Logs for 2017-10-02

---Logopened Mon Oct 02 00:00:21 2017
00:03-!-ilken [~optimus@2602:63:c3e6:4400:547a:267a:a105:e84f] has joined #debian
00:03-!-ilken is "realname" on #tor #debian @#prions
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00:07-!-test is "test" on #debian
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00:10-!-KOJIbKA is "Nikolay Bitsadze" on #debian
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00:11-!-gtristan is "Tristan Van Berkom" on #kernelnewbies #qemu #debian #ninja-build
00:11-!-ach [~spooky@ip-109-43-1-120.web.vodafone.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
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00:14-!-kenny is "realname" on #debian
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00:15-!-yo [~quassel@p57954045.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #debian
00:15-!-yo is "yo" on #debian
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00:15-!-ach [~spooky@ip-109-43-1-120.web.vodafone.de] has joined #debian
00:15-!-ach is "KVIrc 4.9.2 Aria http://kvirc.net/" on #debian
00:17-!-fstd_ [~fstd@x4db6246c.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #debian
00:17-!-fstd_ is "fstd" on #gentoo #linuxfs #gcc #awesome #oftc #vserver #suckless #osm #linode #debian #kernelnewbies
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00:19-!-ilken [~optimus@2602:63:c3e6:4400:547a:267a:a105:e84f] has joined #debian
00:19-!-ilken is "realname" on #tor #debian @#prions
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00:20-!-saigkill is "Sascha Manns" on #debian #debian-gnome #debian-ubuntu #debian-welcome #packaging
00:21-!-yohhhluuu [~quassel@p57954045.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #debian
00:21-!-yohhhluuu is "yo" on #debian
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00:29-!-thunderrd is "realname" on #oftc #tor @#GamersOnLinux #siduction #debian #ck #aptosid
00:32-!-fstd_ [~fstd@x4e372431.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #debian
00:32-!-fstd_ is "fstd" on #gentoo #linuxfs #gcc #awesome #oftc #vserver #suckless #osm #linode #debian #kernelnewbies
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00:43-!-towo^work is "Torsten -towo- Wohlfarth" on #kernelnewbies #siduction-dev #siduction-de #siduction #debian-offtopic #debian-next #debian #aptosid
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00:50-!-graytron is "graytron" on #debian
00:50-!-graytron is now known as Guest5815
00:51-!-kmshanah [~kmshanah@pa49-178-26-55.pa.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #debian
00:51-!-kmshanah is "Kevin Shanahan" on #debian
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00:54-!-jm_ is "." on #debian #debian-ops
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01:05-!-gr8ron is "graytron" on #debian
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01:06-!-cyphase is "Cyphase" on @#PrisonBreak #awesome #ceph #guardianproject #gcc #osm #debian-offtopic @#house.md #osm-dev #debconf #suckless #qemu #debian-next #debian-mentors #powerdns @#p4xriddle #love @#lost @#heroes #debian #virt #ceph-devel
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01:12-!-jmux is "Jan-Marek Glogowski" on #debian
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01:24-!-Q-Master^Work is "Vladimir Berezenko" on #debian-next #debian #debianppc
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01:31-!-sidmo [~ilven@p5B24EDF6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #debian
01:31-!-sidmo is "sidmo" on #debian-systemd #debian-next #debian-offtopic #debian-kde #debian
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01:36-!-JanC_ is "Jan Claeys" on #apparmor #debian #debian-derivatives #debian-nl #epfsug #ext4 #linuxfs #linux-nfs #quodlibet #debian-fonts #bcache
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01:46-!-ansel is "Andreas Seltenreich" on #debian
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01:49-!-kmshanah is "Kevin Shanahan" on #debian
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01:51-!-saigkill is "Sascha Manns" on #debian #debian-gnome #debian-ubuntu #debian-welcome #packaging
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02:00-!-Denomiator is "Mutter User" on #debian
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02:01-!-idkCpp is "Martin Bürgmann" on #debian
02:01<Denomiator>Has anyone upgraded OSMC Jessie to Stretch?
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02:02-!-alanz is "Your Name" on #debian #smuxi
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02:03-!-infinity0_ is "unset" on #debian #debian-mentors #debconf #debian-science #debian-rust #debian-mozext #reproducible-funding #binary-transparency #reproducible-builds #debian-reproducible #debian-privacy-tools #debian-gnupg #alioth #noisysq #otr #monkeysphere #cryptoparty #tor-project #tor
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02:06-!-marcus____ is "Marcus Lundblad" on #debian #debian-gnome
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02:18-!-Tuor is "Tuor" on #debian-next #debian
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02:23-!-saigkill is "Sascha Manns" on #packaging #debian-welcome #debian-ubuntu #debian-gnome #debian
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02:25-!-saigkill is "Sascha Manns" on #debian #debian-gnome #debian-ubuntu #debian-welcome #packaging
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02:28-!-kaviti is "OFTC WebIRC Client" on #debian
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02:29-!-petru_ is "Petru Trimbitas" on #debian-kde #debian
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02:31-!-arturo is "Arturo Borrero Gonzalez" on #debian-outreach #debian-netfilter #debian-ftp #debian-devel-es #debian-ha #debian-mentors #debian-qa #debian-next #debian-es #debian
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02:37-!-thunderrd is "realname" on #oftc #tor @#GamersOnLinux #siduction #debian #ck #aptosid
02:38-!-kava [~jesse@c122-106-19-213.rivrw11.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #debian
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02:40-!-ao2 is "ao2" on #debian #cell
02:40-!-Denomiator [~Mutter@host-69-59-124-45.nctv.com] has joined #debian
02:40-!-Denomiator is "Mutter User" on #debian
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02:42-!-thunderrd is "realname" on #oftc #tor @#GamersOnLinux #siduction #debian #ck #aptosid
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02:44-!-disposable2 is "disposable2" on @#linux-ha #ovirt #ceph #debian
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02:45-!-Haudegen is "AP,,," on #debian-next #debian-kde #debian
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02:55-!-jstein is "Jonas Stein" on #kernelnewbies #debian #smxi @#mint @#fsfe #debian-mentors #osm-de
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02:58-!-promach_ is "realname" on #debian #gcc #kernelnewbies #lowRISC #geda
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02:59-!-sunilmohan is "Sunil Mohan Adapa" on #debian-reproducible #debian-boot #debian-blends @#osdg-iiith #debian-js #monkeysphere #debian-in #debian-webapps #pere #debian-arm #debian #freedombox
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03:08-!-babache is "MyName" on #debian #smuxi
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03:08-!-dboles is "dboles" on #debian #debian-next #debian-gnome
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03:09-!-zamuro is "Romanes eunt domus" on #debian #debian-es #debian-ve
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03:21-!-isagar is "I Sagar" on #debian-ftp #debian-ruby #debian-gnukhata #libindic #debian-boot #debian-live #debian-offtopic #debian #debian-arm #debian-mobile #debian-diaspora #hamara #debian-in
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03:34-!-narcan is "Denis Briand" on #debian-localgroups #debian-mentors #debian-next #debian-offtopic #debian-france #debian
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03:40-!-gtristan is "Tristan Van Berkom" on #ninja-build #debian #qemu #kernelnewbies
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03:43-!-saigkill is "Sascha Manns" on #debian #debian-gnome #debian-ubuntu #debian-welcome #packaging
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07:09<krauser_>Can't get wine32 to install -> https://pastebin.com/rswUY4RX
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07:14<towo^work>krauser_, apt install libwine:i386 is saying what?
07:14<jm_>why don't you simply install the wine package?
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07:18<krauser_>towo^work https://pastebin.com/zqMNr2bT
07:20<krauser_>i'm trying to get some windows stuff working on my debian 9, that's why I need wine32.
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07:24<towo^work>krauser_, you have done apt update after adding the i386 achitecture?
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07:24<krauser_>yes
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07:26<towo^work>krauser_, paste the output of apt policy
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07:29<krauser_>https://pastebin.com/VWqnS9hb
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07:30<towo^work>krauser_, what makes you think, you need a extra repo for wine?
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07:44<SweetPear>Could someone help me partitioning Debian?
07:45<towo^work>who knows
07:45<towo^work>btw, debian needs no partitioning, the disk is needing it
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07:46<burban>salut
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07:47<SweetPear>I’m would like to dual boot windows 8 (UEFI) and Debian 9, I currently have a swap partition and a ext4 partition for /. But I don’t know where grub is going to be
07:47<SweetPear>I would*
07:48<towo^work>SweetPear, in efi mode, you should have a EFI partition
07:49<SweetPear>towo^work, what is an EFI partition
07:49<SweetPear>Oh wait
07:50<SweetPear>towo^work, do you mean the one created by windows?
07:50<towo^work>no, i mean a partition flagged as esp
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07:50<towo^work>if windows is installed in efi mode, such partition is on disk
07:51<towo^work>and this bartition has to be mountet as /boot/EFI
07:51<towo^work>s/b/p
07:51<krauser_><towo^work> didn't know I had 2 repos for wine. Deleted the extra one, have the same problem though
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07:55<krauser_>the normal package of win recommends wine32 but never installs it, just wine64 and a couple more packages related. Whenever i try to run an exe, it asks for wine32, but i can't install it
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07:56<SweetPear>towo^work, don’t know what you mean by “1:51 PM <towo^work> and this bartition has to be mountet as /boot/EFI” but I see a partition with ESP
07:57<joseantoniotorre>Hi!
07:57<SweetPear>Doesn’t mounting that esp partition as /boot overwrite the windows boot loader
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08:00<jm_>SweetPear: you mount it under /boot/efi, not /boot
08:01<SweetPear>I’m sorry, I’m confused. This is what it looks like right now. https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/WV23blMw/IMG_0633.JPG
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08:02<jm_>yeah partition #2 is ESP (note how it says ESP :)
08:03<SweetPear>I see, but what do I do with it xd
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08:04<jm_>did debian installation not add it to /etc/fstab so it's mounted under /boot/efi?
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08:05<SweetPear>Whaaat
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08:07<jm_>is debian installed already or not?
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08:07<SweetPear>No
08:07<SweetPear>This is the installer
08:08<jm_>crap, sorry I have to run
08:08<SweetPear>Np
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08:14<ilken>https://imgur.com/a/x1u0n
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08:26<SweetPear>Anyone else who can help me?
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09:17<Asara>Whats up SweetPear
09:18<SweetPear>Asara, trying to find out where grub is / should be installed
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09:21<Brigo>SweetPear, in the boot disk?
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09:23<SweetPear>Brigo, when installing Debian (Windows 8 UEFI dual boot) https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/WV23blMw/image.JPG
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09:27<Brigo>SweetPear, you had a windows and tryed to add a linux with efi?
09:28<SweetPear>Brigo, I’m currently trying, but I’m not sure how to do the partitioning
09:29<Brigo>you can't fit a efi and non-efi partitioning at the same time. You have to choose and then partittioning the disk.
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09:30<SweetPear>Brigo, which is my efi
09:30<SweetPear>Is not efi*
09:31<Brigo>then why is there efi partitions?
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09:31<Asara>the only time i've ever done this
09:32<Asara>i installed windows onto a device, installed debian onto another device and used the debian bootloader to chainload windows
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09:32<Brigo>SweetPear, you said: when installing Debian (Windows 8 UEFI dual boot) h
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09:32<SweetPear>Yeah
09:33<SweetPear>Brigo, both should be efi right?
09:33<Brigo>Asara, last time i checked windows had to be in the first device, so i guess it is ein scsi1?
09:33<Brigo>SweetPear, only matters in the boot device.
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09:34<Brigo>you choose the boot device from bios.
09:34<Brigo>and in that device you have to install grub
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09:34<Brigo>afaik the efi partition should be the first one.
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09:35<SweetPear>The first?
09:35<Brigo>and you install grub in that partition (grub does it automaticaly)
09:35<Brigo>SweetPear, i think so.
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09:35<SweetPear>https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/WV23blMw/image.JPG so this is right?
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09:37<Brigo>SweetPear, i don't think so, but you can try installing grub into it and we'll see.
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09:37<SweetPear>What if it’s not right :O
09:37<SweetPear>I might end up breaking my windows installation
09:38<Brigo>SweetPear, as far as you don't touch the windows partitons you should be fine.
09:38<Brigo>anyway, backups don't harm.
09:38<SweetPear>I have backups but fixing a windows installation on my device is a pain
09:39<SweetPear>I just don’t see anything indicating where grub is going to be installed
09:39<Asara>you cohose that after
09:39<Brigo>the #3 partition is marking as boot partiton, so maybe the first ntfs partitons does'nt count.
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09:40<Brigo>SweetPear, grub will be installed in the efi partitions (that's why this partiton type exists for)
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09:40<SweetPear>“3:37 PM <Brigo> SweetPear, i don't think so, but you can try installing grub into it and we'll see.” Why don’t you think it’s right then?
09:41<Brigo>SweetPear, as i already told you, because the efi partition use to be the first.
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09:41<SweetPear>Oh like that
09:41<SweetPear>Well I didn’t chance that
09:42<Brigo>i don't know what that first ntfs partition is doing there. Maybe some kind of backup or restoring utility perhaps
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09:42<SweetPear>Well my laptop doesn’t have windows cds
09:43<SweetPear>So when I want to reset it to factory settings
09:43<SweetPear>It pulls data from those partitions
09:43<SweetPear>Instead of cds
09:43<SweetPear>Probably has something to do with that
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09:46<Asara>Have a question myself, currenetly using jessie, my syslog is getting flooded with dhclient logs
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09:47<Brigo>Asara, can you paste it in paste.debian.org?
09:47<Asara>both daemon.log and syslog are filled with loops of DHCPDISCOVER DHCPREQUEST DHCPOFFER DHCPACK DHCPDECLINE from 255.255.255.255
09:48<Asara>and that is it
09:48<Asara>but it is like... 100 of each per second
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09:55<Brigo>Asara, not enough information
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09:56<grove>Asara: Please paste the exact lines, I refuse to believe anything is stupid enough to broadcast anthing claiming to have the broadcast address, so what you're writing makes no sense
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09:56<Asara>https://paste.debian.net/hidden/235661a5/
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10:02<Brigo>Asara, i think this could help with your issue: http://blog-stack.net/bad_address-flood-in-windows-dhcp-server/
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10:03<Asara>this is on aws, so i don't know if I can do anything on the dhcp server side
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10:07<grove>Asara: How is the network configured on your machine? Do you even need to run dhclient?
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10:07<Asara>allow-hotplug eth0 + iface eth0 inet dhcp
10:07<Asara>in /etc/network/interfaces
10:08<noahm>Asara: are you using the AMIs from https://wiki.debian.org/Cloud/AmazonEC2Image/Stretch ?
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10:10<Asara>debian-jessie-amd64-hvm-2015-06-07-12-27-ebs (ami-116d857a)
10:10<noahm>ah. I don't know much about the jessie AMIs
10:12<noahm>either way, this sounds like unexpected behavior though.
10:12<Asara>Agreed. Maybe I should just hit up AWS support
10:12<noahm>does this happen on every instance you launch from this AMI? How many instances have you tried?
10:13<noahm>have you inspected /var/lib/dhcp/dhclient.leases to see if there's anything in there that may be impacting the client's behavior?
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10:13<noahm>You might also be able to run dhclient with the '-v' option to increase verbosity. it might tell you more about the message that it's declining.
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10:14<noahm>you'll need to hack up the interfaces file to do that
10:15<Asara>https://paste.debian.net/hidden/c900ab36/
10:15<Asara>nothing in /var/lib/dhcp/dhclient.leases
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10:16<Asara>https://paste.debian.net/hidden/8746e437/ <- dhclient -v
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10:17<Brigo>Asara, that could be the problem in line 14: RTNETLINK answers: File exists
10:17<Asara>which file is it referencing though..
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10:18<noahm>it's a netlick socket, not an actual file
10:18<noahm>Are there multiple dhclient processes running?
10:19<noahm>*netlink, rather
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10:20<Asara>why yes there are...
10:20<Asara>I wonder how that happened. How do you stop dhclient on debian? It isn't a init.d/service file
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10:20<Asara>its started by the network don't even know how it could have started twice on this server
10:20<noahm>it's started and stopped by ifup/ifdown
10:21<noahm>which normally takes care of ensuring that only a single process is running
10:21<Asara>Actually, not sure if it is running twice, one sec
10:22<Asara>https://paste.debian.net/hidden/c4eea3d5/
10:22<Asara>is something violently restarting dhclient in the background?
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10:23<Asara>and every so often I see https://paste.debian.net/hidden/40a22461/
10:23<noahm>no, dhclient has been running since sept. 29
10:23<noahm>but dhclient-script is likely getting triggered unusually often
10:24<noahm>that's *probably* a symptom of the problem, not the problem itself, though.
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10:25<noahm>yeah, you're seeing that because a lot of the configuration that dhclient performs is actually handled by dhclient-script. you're seeing some of the processes that it runs.
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10:25<Asara>got it
10:26<noahm>it's a little surprising to see the 'renew', 'rebind', and 'expire' timestamps all have the same value in your dhclient leases file.
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10:26<Asara>yeah not sure how that happened
10:26<Brigo>i think is the server which set those.
10:27<noahm>yes, but they're not usually set to the same value (in AWS or elsewhere)
10:27<Brigo>noahm, right.
10:27<noahm>also, they're in the past
10:27<noahm>which isn't right
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10:29<noahm>I might try the following, all as root: "ifdown eth0 ; rm -f /var/lib/dhcp/dhclient.eth0.leases ; ifup eth0"
10:29<Asara>kinda scared of doing that since the network will go down and its on aws so there is no way to get back into it without ssh
10:30<noahm>you'd need to reboot the instance, which you can do from the CLI/API/or web UI.
10:30<Asara>alright will do
10:30<noahm>But I'd expect this to come back up.
10:30<Brigo>yes, me too.
10:30<noahm>Good luck! :D
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10:31<Asara>thanks :)
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10:34<Asara>okay
10:34<Asara>so the server came up
10:34<Asara>but now the logs are flooded with
10:34<Asara>https://paste.debian.net/hidden/f6974dca/
10:34<Asara>also en mass
10:35<noahm>show 'ps aux | grep dhclient' again
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10:35<Brigo>pgrep -l dhclient is simpler.
10:36<noahm>yeah, the command-line flags are often interesting, though
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10:37<noahm>for example, on a stretch AWS instance, there are expected to be two dhclient processes, one for ipv4 and the other for v6. they're indistinguishable givin only the process name.
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10:37<noahm>But the command-line makes it clear which is which.
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10:40<noahm>Asara: also, can you show 'fuser -n udp 68'?
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10:45<noahm>Asara: I need to go offline now. Hopefully you're on the right track to get things figured out...
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10:47<Asara>https://paste.debian.net/hidden/dac69abf/
10:47<Asara>68/udp: 350
10:48<Asara>350 dhclient 8913 dhclient-script
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11:35<izzyb2>I'm playing with debian-live builds and having issues with network-manager overriding configuration I put in /etc/network/interfaces.
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11:35<izzyb2>at least I assume it's causing the issue
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11:35<izzyb2>I seem to recall Network-manager ignored interfaces configured in /etc/network/interfaces
11:36<izzyb2>The build I'm working with uses a cinnamon desktop - jessie based.
11:37<izzyb2>I tried removing network-manager, but that causes cinnamon desktop to be removed also
11:37<izzyb2>is there a way to dissable network-manager, without removing the desktop?
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12:06<hackerman>hi
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12:25<SweetPear>Just installed Debian along side windows but when I Boot Debian it’s stuck at “loading initial ramdisk”, could someone help me
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12:32<izzyb2>sweetpear can you still boot to windows?
12:33<izzyb2>which boot loader are you using?
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12:33<izzyb2>what version of debian did you install
12:33<SweetPear>I booted windows before that, and it was working fine. Just booted Debian again and it works all of a sudden
12:33<SweetPear>Grub and Debian 9
12:34<izzyb2>oh, good. probably just something wrong with the way it rebooted
12:34<izzyb2>can you get into windows now?
12:35<izzyb2> or how
12:35<izzyb2>I've seen that happend before, but can't say I understand why
12:35<izzyb2> or how
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12:38<SweetPear>Let me see if both work now
12:39<SweetPear>Both boot now :D
12:39<SweetPear>izzyb2, could you tell what non free repository’s are for?
12:40<izzyb2>debian has strict license requirements that prevent it from distributing programs witout an opensouce license
12:40<blast007>!DFSG
12:40<dpkg>DFSG is the Debian Free Software Guidelines, which are explained at http://www.debian.org/social_contract#guidelines . For a full list of DFSG-compatible/incompatible software licenses, see http://wiki.debian.org/DFSGLicenses
12:40<SweetPear>Hmm
12:41<izzyb2>packages that don't conform to it get put in the non-free repositories
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12:41<SweetPear>How do I get the non-free repository
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12:42<SweetPear>Also don’t I need a non-free repository for some specific drivers
12:42<blast007>to be clear, the licensing of anything in non-free does allow Debian to redistribute it, or else they'd not be able to host it. the stuff in non-free just doesn't comply with the DFSG.
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12:44<izzyb2>SweetPear: you can add non-free after main to the end of all the lines in your /etc/apt/sources.list
12:44<blast007>SweetPear: https://wiki.debian.org/SourcesList?action=show&redirect=sources.list#Example_sources.list (see the second example)
12:47<SweetPear>Thanks guys!
12:47<SweetPear>I’ll do that after I found my WiFi firmware
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12:55<izzyb2>SweetPear: I think what you'll be looking for is firmware-linux-nonfree. You'll need to add non-free and do an apt-get update first
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13:14<Guest5847>Have fresh stretch install. Can't get outside local net. Can ping gateway, but not 8.8.8.8. What am I looking for? route, ifconfig, resolv.conf all seem fine.
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13:15<blast007>can you ping your own public IP (the one your ISP provides) or your ISP's gateway? where does a traceroute to 8.8.8.8 stop?
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13:18<Guest5847>traceroute gets nowhere. no apparent firewall. iptables -vnL show no rules, default accept throughout. feels like something is blocking access outside local net.
13:20<blast007>do you have a default gateway defined?
13:20<Guest5847>D'oh, thanks for clear thinking. Nested routers, will walk it out. Without change, works fine from other OS' / during install. Has to be config issue. Want to blame ipv6, but don't know that I can yet.
13:21<Guest5847>Post-install, thing came up by itself, interface wise. Later looked at /etc/network/interfaces, nothing defined in it. Only lo, and include interfaces.d - but interfaces.d empty. How if came up at all is beyond me.
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13:24<Guest5847>OK, all pings fine from this computer. External address this net's router, 192.168.2.10, gateway 192.168.2.1. Neither will ping from broken machine. Both will ping from this machine (same net).
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13:26<Guest5847>Nothing in net ipv6. What if this attempting v6. Easiest way to disable v6 for a sec to test?
13:27<Guest5847>Have other stretch install, it doesn't have this problem.
13:27<blast007>if you're pinging an IPv4 it shouldn't be trying to do that over v6
13:27<Guest5847>Agreed, but what if auto-dhcp'ed via v6 - if that parlance even makes any sense.
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13:28<Guest5847>Hold on ... behaviour is consistent with not knowing where to go to get out. Yet route set. Hmmm.
13:30<blast007>if you want to show us config files or output of commands, you can paste the info into https://paste.debian.net
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13:30<Guest5847>Internal net is 169.254.x.0/24 - always comes up with two routes, i.e. link local.
13:30<Guest5847>Um ... if I had ability to cut paste info to net ... we wouldn't be talking. :-)
13:31<blast007>always sneakernet :)
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13:31<blast007>are you trying to statically assign an IP?
13:31<Guest5847>ip route del 169.254.0.0/16 issued. Testing.
13:32<Guest5847>traceroute doesn't even know where first hop is.
13:32<blast007>https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration
13:33<Guest5847>D'oh ... ssh from her to it, then paste to inet. D'uh!
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13:43<Guest5847>Top of that link may explain things ... surrounding 'predictable network interface names' 'As if Stretch, the old network names like eth0, eth1 have gone away ...' Curious that next down / dhcp says ... auto eth0 - if name isn't predictable ... how can eth0 be accurate?
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13:49<Guest5847>Using sample there ... 'auto eth0\nallow-hotplug eth0\niface eth0 inet dhcp' service networking restart returns error. journalctl -xe displays include Cannot find device eth0, so I think my prior question / observation quite pertinent. [If name unpredictable, how can 'auto eth0' work?]
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14:40<crrano>oeoeoeoe
14:40<eia>equisdeeeeeee p causaaaa
14:41<crrano>jijijiijiijijijijijijjiijijijijijijijijijijiijijijiijijij
14:41<eia>la nayelli se la come dobla
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14:41<crrano>esa teta de vieja :v
14:41<crrano>como lodo en huayco xdd
14:41<eia>:v
14:42<eia> no le digas :'v
14:42<eia> ella es buena gente
14:42<crrano>nel :v
14:42<crrano>me va a patear
14:42<eia> :v ella escupe weam :0
14:42<spacebug^>!es
14:42<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
14:42<crrano>la defecas :'v
14:43<eia> oe llama a la gente seria :v yts kgue risaaaaaaa
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15:58<SweetPear>Can someone help me find out why Compiz is not working in Debian 9
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17:19<annadane>!ask
17:19<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
17:19<annadane>oh, an hour and a half ago
17:19<annadane>SweetPear, just ask your question
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17:20<annadane>and be more descriptive than just "not working"
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17:22<SweetPear>annadane, I’m trying but there is not much information other than that I’m running the command compiz —replace
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17:27<SweetPear>Hmm, actually, I just found something. “/usr/bin/compiz (core) - Debug: Trying to load core from: /home/debian/.compiz-1/plugins/libcore.so
17:27<SweetPear>/usr/bin/compiz (core) - Debug: dlopen failed: /home/debian/.compiz-1/plugins/libcore.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory”
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21:23<yoga>Hi, How to 100% remove a package? I just install geeqie and additional packages where installed along with it . However, an apt remove/purge/autoremove didn't remove most of those additional package (or dependencies?). So any idea about this?
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21:34<Guest3713>yoga: autoremove should do that (remove packages that were installed automatically as dependencies).
21:34<Guest3713>In synaptic you can view a history of what was recently installed
21:35<Guest3713>You can also toggle which packages are set to "manual" and which are consider auto-installs
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21:36<dvs>I thought it was autoremove
21:37<yoga>I just test it for geeqie, `sudo apt-get autoremove geeqie` nor a `sudo apt-get autoremove ` after didn't remove the other Guest3713 package, I had to keep track of those "additional packages" and remove them manually
21:37<yoga>oops
21:38<yoga>Guest3713: I just test it for geeqie, `sudo apt-get autoremove geeqie` nor a `sudo apt-get autoremove ` after didn't remove the other package, I had to keep track of those "additional packages" and remove them manually
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21:42<Guest3713>perhaps there are other packages you have installed that consider those packages to be dependencies
21:42<Guest3713>in particular, "recommended" packages can be considered dependencies https://odoepner.wordpress.com/2013/07/13/manage-recommended-dependencies-with-apt-get-debfoster-and-custom-script/
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21:49<yoga>Guest3713: maybe, but I didn't install any package in between.
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22:59<outcast>anyone here have stretch, amd64 with one disabled core and NVIDIA dsply running w/o problems?
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23:07<outcast>does stretch launch apps onto a different core from OS and is this different from Deb8?
23:08<outcast>Good ol boys net or bot net central
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