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00:22<dmoe__>Anyone else getting error 503 on http://cdn-fastly.deb.debian.org/debian/dists/jessie/main/binary-amd64/Packages
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00:23<dmoe__>Seems to be an issue with Varnish and Fastly
00:23<dmoe__>Whoever maintains that needs to be notified
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00:39<rob_debian>Hi all, I have a pendrive not mounted here, but it's regognized in 'gparted'. on the other hand, when I try to mount it, Debian replies me that it is not in 'fstab' my fstab file is: https://paste.debian.net/989559/
00:41<rob_debian>Please, how to fix this issue ? which line should I include in fstab according to my pendrive ? /dev/sdb
00:42<tomg>which desktop environment are you using? it usually has a program to find USB mass storage devices and mount them for you
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00:45<cef>If you want to use "mount" manually, you need to specify all the options to it. if you only specify the device path, it assumes there'll be an entry in /etc/fstab - If you specify everything, it'll do it regardless. Note: You get all the responsibility to unmount it too, etc.
00:46<cef>If you're using a graphical desktop, there's tools that should automatically mount/unmount it for you with a few clicks.
00:47<cef>Stuff in /etc/fstab is usually for permanently attached stuff (eg: hard disks, cdroms, etc) or stuff you explicitly want mounted at boot.
00:50<annadane>dmoe__, known issue at the moment; try changing your mirror
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01:00<dmoe__>annadane is there a place that lists known issues like that I can follow?
01:01<dmoe__>website url
01:01<annadane>dmoe__, typically bugs.debian.org but it won't be there because this just started happening in the last few hours
01:02<dmoe__>ok thanks. I'm just experimenting with dockerhub so I can wait
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01:06<snwflake>Good morning! Is there any problem with the sources?
01:06<snwflake>the guru is basically telling me to fuck off
01:06<snwflake>http://deb.debian.org/debian
01:07<rob_debian>I'm back. hi tomg ! nice to meet you again ! thanks for answering ! tomg, it's quite strange this situation, for other pendrives are automatically recognized in Debian (Debian is UNIX-like GOD !)
01:07<snwflake>503 Quorum weight not reached
01:07<rob_debian>majority of my devices are recognized automatically, but one specifically is not mounted and not recognized in fstab
01:08<rob_debian>no, in fstab, there is no mention about /dev/sdb1 that is mounted and running fine here, tomg
01:08<tomg>it could be it's not formatted
01:09<rob_debian>hi cef, nice to meet you here !
01:09<rob_debian>tomg, it's formated (vfat32 partition) I'm using it at this moment in my sound, listening to some songs
01:09<tomg>okay I don't know, someone might know later
01:09<rob_debian>but, in Debian it's not running ok. this other one I'm using now in Debian runs efficiently and fine
01:09<tomg>dpkg, usb?
01:09<dpkg>Universal Serial Bus (USB) is a technology that has replaced the way that some peripheral devices connect to a computer. It is much faster than serial/communications and more flexible: many devices can be connected to simultaneously. USB 3.0 is supported by the Linux kernel since version 2.6.31. http://www.linux-usb.org/USB-guide/book1.html http://www.linux-usb.org/ See also <usb install>, <usbreset>.
01:10<annadane>dmoe__, issue should be fixed now
01:10<annadane>jakethedog, ^
01:11<rob_debian>well tomg, this device hasn't been working properly, even in other devices. probably, it's not as good enough to be used
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01:12<annadane>snwflake, ^
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01:14<snwflake>annadane, thanks! what went wrong?
01:14<rob_debian>tomg, I'm using mate in Debian Stretch 9.1
01:14<tomg>rob_debian, it does sound like maybe it doesn't work too well
01:14<annadane>snwflake, they apparently messed up something on their end, i don't really know what it was
01:14<tomg>you could try reformatting
01:15<tomg>but i wouldn't bother if it has the sound files you want on it already, at least for now
01:15<snwflake>damn that guru!
01:17<cef>rob_debian: try the following as root: `file -s /dev/sdb` and `file -s /dev/sdb1`
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01:18<cef>rob_debian: I suspect that the output from those might pin down the reason the key isn't working.
01:19<rob_debian>yes, tomg, I've reformatted it several times already, it works fine after formatted, but fails after
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01:21<rob_debian>yes, tomg, just curious why this sort of things usually happen only with this device, but not with other
01:21<rob_debian>others
01:21<rob_debian>hi cef, thanks for help ! I'll apply this procedure here in few minutes, thank you very much !!!
01:22<cef>rob_debian: other thing you could try is using dd to wipe the device completely before you repartition/reformat
01:22<cef>rob_debian: or run badblocks on it
01:24<rob_debian>fine cef, so, how to run badblocks on it ? I only know how to check it in hard drives: sudo badblocks -sv -c 1024 /dev/sda
01:26<rob_debian>cef, I will start with the two first procedures you suggested me: 'file -s /dev/sdb' and 'file -s /dev/sdb1'
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01:31<rob_debian>please, cef: file -s /dev/sdb the outuput is: /dev/sdb: DOS/MBR boot sector; partition 1 : ID=0xb, start-CHS (0x0,32,33), end-CHS (0x3ff,254,63), startsector 2048, 31946752 sectors
01:33<cef>rob_debian: Re: badblocks: exactly the same as you do with a h/drive. just point it at the pendrive (eg: change sda to sdb)
01:34<rob_debian>please, cef, file -s /dev/sdb1, the output is here: https://paste.debian.net/989563/
01:35<cef>rob_debian: I'd compare your output above to another USB pendrive that works fwiw. comparing to a h/drive the start-CHS and startsector are not right at the start.. but it might be set up as a boot device.
01:36<cef>no idea if that
01:36<rob_debian>and I'd use 2048, instead of 1024, right, cef ?
01:37<rob_debian>in the case of running 'badblocks' command in Debian for this device....
01:37<cef>no idea if that's good or bad sorry. it's where I'd start looking then dig into things. there shouldn't be that much difference.
01:37<cef>shouldn't make much difference. -c is blocks to do at once..
01:38<cef>you might want to change the block size to 4k tho (-b 4096), even with hdd's.
01:39<dmoe__>now I am getting an error "The following packages cannot be authenticated: ssl-cert"
01:39<cef>Sorry, I'm just about to move and in the middle of packing
01:39<annadane>dmoe__, hard to really offer solutions without more detailed output
01:39<annadane>paste.debian.net
01:40<annadane>also, i assume this is an update from 9.1 to 9.2
01:40<annadane>in which case i can postulate it's related to the same issue, possibly
01:41<rob_debian>no problem, cef, you helped me a lot here, I get the following conclusion; I mustn't waste more time using this device, for it is not working fine (but my Debian always works and runs fine and precisely)
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01:42<rob_debian>thanks for Great Support and attention, cef !! hope it's everything gonna fine with your packaging in Debian ! :)
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01:43<dmoe__>oh so 9.2 was released today
01:44<annadane>sorry, i actually lost track of your issue
01:44<annadane>i'm tired and assumed you were updating, may have been someone else, let me scroll up and actually read
01:45<dmoe__>no it's fine I'm just experimenting with docker and it explains why things worked yesterday upon build but not today
01:45<annadane>oh, okay, well, i don't actually know what you're trying to do with ssl-cert but yes 9.2 existing could be the issue
01:45<rob_debian>still using 8.9 here - this hard drive
01:45<dmoe__>i'm not sure how to extract much information from a container but I did get this message
01:46<dmoe__>Service 'wordpress' failed to build: The command '/bin/sh -c apt-get update && apt-get install --force-yes --no-install-recommends ssl-cert && rm -r /var/lib/apt/lists/* && a2enmod ssl && a2ensite default-ssl' returned a non-zero code: 100
01:46<rob_debian>other ssd is 9.2
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01:59<rob_debian>Hi annadane ! :)
02:00<annadane>hi rob; try not to ping me just to say hi
02:00<rob_debian>oh, sorry annadane, because of rules here...
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02:01<annadane>it's not necessarily against the rules of the channel but it's just that when i see my irc client flash then i have to check it
02:02<annadane>if it's in relation to a support channel or something that someone needs my attention for then it's different
02:02<annadane>s/channel/question
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02:14<rob_debian>i see, annadane, sorry for that :(
02:15<annadane>it's not a big deal. other people may not mind it if you do it to them
02:16<annadane>honestly rob it really doesn't matter, do it if you want to
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02:26<rob_debian>Bye all !
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03:28<shobhit>Aye!
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03:30<szulup>Hi all
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03:31<annadane>really stupid question but the auto-mesa transition isn't perpetually stuck at 50, is it?
03:31<annadane>ie it being at 50% constantly isn't a convention?
03:32<annadane>no, never mind, there's tons of other auto transitions, i'm just misremembering things
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05:03<reddshoe>can somebody help me with systemd and some units unnable to start after restoring a backup?
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05:16<hjalf>how do i use gedit or another text editor to view and edit the same file at different points? i need it to be treated like one open (as in "one openization"). i'm not talking about multiple editing points as in input the same text at different (previously marked) points in the file.
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05:21<dboles>vim: vsp
05:23<hjalf>dboles: well, except for vim and emacs. i know they support everything and a half. :)
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06:02<mayuresh>hello.
06:03<mayuresh>have the "clisp*" packages been taken off the primary repository?
06:03<mayuresh>i tried to install it just now 'apt install clisp' and it's not there!
06:04<dboles>,v clisp
06:04<judd>Package: clisp on amd64 -- wheezy: 1:2.49-8.1; buster: 1:2.49.20170913-2; sid: 1:2.49.20170913-2
06:04<mayuresh>i am on 9.1, i think it's called "stretch"
06:05<dboles>unless it had a different name, looks like it missed jessie and stretch
06:05<dboles>https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=clisp
06:05<mayuresh>and yes, i am on amd64
06:05<mayuresh>oh, okay, will search right away
06:05<dboles>see https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/243015/no-clisp-in-debians-repository
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06:08<mayuresh>gah, that's strange!
06:08<mayuresh>i just saw it 5 hours back, didn't install because my network was a mess.
06:09<mayuresh>and now it's gone!
06:09<mayuresh>strange keeps getting stranger.
06:09<mayuresh>aaah, i did an upgrade, i am now on 9.2
06:10<blast007>if you're running stretch, you should not have seen it
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06:10<mayuresh>i have been running stretch for the past 5 days.
06:10<mayuresh>i have not only seen it, i have even installed the base stuff once
06:10<mayuresh>was testing out a few things with debian installation itself
06:10<blast007>on stretch, with just the stretch repositories?
06:11<mayuresh>yes
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06:11<mayuresh>no additional stuff
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06:11<mayuresh>i re-installed debian stretch a few hours back because i wanted to see what it's like without the 'uefi' mode on.
06:12<mayuresh>and then i did an "apt upgrade"
06:12<mayuresh>and had forgotten all about "not having" clisp
06:12<blast007>well, it wasn't in stretch. it was in sid (unstable) since the end of June, and in buster (testing) since the 4th.
06:12<mayuresh>as i said "strange keeps getting stranger".
06:13<mayuresh>i haven't even changed my install media
06:13<mayuresh>it's the same usb thumb drive
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06:13<dboles>that doesn't preclude the possibility of having sid in your previous installation's sources
06:13<mayuresh>as i said, i haven't touched any sid, ever.
06:14<mayuresh>i have had this extra_firmware stretch since i downloaded it 7 days back
06:16<mayuresh>alrighty, an option would be to use "ubuntu 17.04" at the moment.
06:16<mayuresh>thanks for the tips everyone. :)
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06:17<dboles>sounds fake to me
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06:33<hjalf>dboles: what sounds fake?
06:33<dboles>a scenario in which stretch would have been temporarily pulling in packages from sid or any other source, without the user having added that source somewhere
06:34<dboles>or that the package would have been added back to stretch temporarily and then removed. maybe that happens? idk
06:36<hjalf>dboles: the latter would be a potentially serious security issue
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06:37<dboles>yes, these are the kinds of faux pas that i can't see happening (without pebkac)
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07:49<guardian>hello, what's the proper way to change the mail command logrotate uses?
07:49<guardian>should I adjust the invocation of logrotate in /etc/cron.daily?
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08:20<hjalf>how do i use gedit (or another text editor) to view and edit a text file at different points in the file? i need this procedure to be treated as involving one open (as in "one openization"); for example with undo/redo shared between the two instances.
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08:23<blast007>hjalf: some editors have an option for split view or multiple windows for the same file. I do not think that gedit does though.
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08:31<hjalf>blast007: please name one.
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08:37<apt-archive>How to stop my OS to autocleanup autoremove or autopurge packages? Why does my OS delete /var/cache/apt/archives/?
08:38<somiaj>apt-archive: what program do you use? If you use apt you'll have to configure some options, while if you use apt-get, it will work as you are use to.
08:39<apt-archive>I use only synaptic which is configured to store ANY package and a chronic.
08:39<apt-archive>And apt-get
08:39<somiaj>so apt-get won't autoremove or delete stuff in /var/cache/apt/archives by default, apt and aptitude will. Afiak you can turn off the deleteing of the files via a configuration option, I'm unsure on the autoremove part
08:39<somiaj>if you use synaptic, you may have to look into its configuration options.
08:40<apt-archive>I have only used aptitude 1 time to search for a special package. no actions done further.
08:40<somiaj>I don't know the config options off the top of my head, but they are there you'll have to look for them. apt-config dump will list what the defaults are
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08:41<apt-archive>If I look into /var/log/apt/history.log I can see packages (after the install of the OS) which are not more in /var/cache/apt/archives/
08:41<somiaj>for example on my system I have Binary::apt::APT::Keep-Downloaded-Packages "0"; which you can set to 1 if you want the binary apt to keep download packages.
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08:41<apt-archive>I want to archive anything until the disk is full.
08:41<somiaj>apt-archive: correct, by default these are deleted by apt but not apt-get. I don't know the synaptic defaults as I don't use it.
08:42<somiaj>and as I have said, configuring this depends on which of the various package managers you use.
08:42<apt-archive>._. So I have to configure synaptic, aptitude, apt-get?
08:42<apt-archive>ok
08:42<somiaj>apt-get will not delete those files by default and won't autoremove, so no you don't have to configure apt-get
08:43<somiaj>but the new apt you will have to configure as I tried to point out whcih optoin you need to change
08:43<apt-archive>Than I dont get the reason for deletion, because synaptic is configured correctly and apt-get is default conf
08:44<apt-archive>Any magic "get the deleted packages back" option?
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08:44<apt-archive>stupid question. But hope dies last.
08:44<blast007>hjalf: well, if you're looking for a full IDE, Qt Creator is one option. I think that's the only IDE/editor with a split feature that I have installed from the official repos. From outside sources, I also have Visual Studio Code, Atom, and phpStorm.
08:44<somiaj>there is a --download only option in which you can use with cunjunction of any installed package in a script
08:45<dboles>the /var/cache is just that, a cache, so the worst is that you'll have to download the packages again if you reinstall them
08:46<apt-archive>I know this option. But its a further download and not the original one.
08:46<somiaj>apt-archive: apt-cacher-ng maybe more what you want, this creates a local cache/repo of all packages you install. If you have multiple machines you can point them all to the same one running apt-cacher-ng as the repo. This will make a cache of all packages you download and make it so you can install them on other machines on your network without downloading them from the internet again.
08:47<blast007>apt-archive: perhaps we could provide better advise if we knew why you are wanting this behavior
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08:47<apt-archive>blast007: I want to save reproducability. If my system is fucked up I can check those packages against a repo or a backup. Maybe something is corrupted.
08:47<@themill>apt-archive: perhaps you can describe what you mean by "get the deleted packages back" because I think you're getting answers to a different question than the one you want to ask
08:48<somiaj>apt-archive: then apt-cacher or apt-cacher-ng or a tool like that maybe more what you want, give you a local repo you can use and check against of only the packages you use.
08:49<somiaj>apt-archive: there is also debsums if you are wanting to check package integurity.
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08:51<apt-archive>themill: I did dist-upgrades on stretch 9.1.0. My history file says there was installed package XYZ. And I cant find a package in the archive dir.
08:51<@themill>using what tool?
08:51<apt-archive>apt-get
08:51<@themill>apt-get does not delete packages.
08:51<@themill>(not unless you explicitly configured it to do so)
08:52<apt-archive>But it wanted me to do auto-cleanup. After a kernel upgrade this section (if i use apt-get for anything) is much lesser
08:52<apt-archive>* less
08:52<somiaj>apt-archive: did you autoclean or clean as a seperate apt-get command? or did y ou autoremove?
08:52<@themill>That's nothing to do with /var/cache/apt
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08:53<apt-archive>themill: OK.
08:53<@themill>and it's also only a suggestion not a requirement. (one that you should probably take but that's another discussion)
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08:55<apt-archive>somiaj: nothing. " sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -d dist-upgrade" AND "sudo apt-get upgrade" AND REBOOT AND "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
08:55<apt-archive>I just wanted to separate for better readability. sorry.
08:56<@themill>none of that deletes packages from /var/cache/apt and none of that removes packages from the system (unless required by the upgrade)
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08:57<apt-archive>OK. So maybe I used another program which used aptitude or any other not same like apt-get configured manager or the aptitude use did something which I didnt expect.
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08:57<apt-archive>why is the autoremove section after a dist-upgrade with kernel-upgrade not as great as before?
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08:58<@themill>You'd have to show real data if you want an answer to that
08:58<@themill>I mean, I'm as good at wild-arsed-guessing as the next person, ...
08:58<somiaj>apt-archive: what do you mean by not as great. What is it doing that you did not expect?
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09:00<apt-archive>The "not needed packages:" section in apt-get is not as great as before the kernel upgrade.
09:00<somiaj>that doens't add any more details, what about it isn't as great as before.
09:00<apt-archive>themill: I dont store workspace sessions for after reboot, so I cant provide.
09:01<@themill>you can guess better than we can then... you at least saw the list twice
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09:02<apt-archive>somiaj: I added a few programs, like gtkhash, remmina, rdesktop, xrdp, libreoffice language packs, gnome-commander, and so on. I think 20 programs. After that and several upgrade/dist-upgrades I could see a lot of packages not needed anymore.
09:03<apt-archive>After the last dist-upgrade to the newest kernel the list shows only 3 packges. which are refering /have to do with avahi-daemon. This was removed after the kernel-upgrade.
09:04<apt-archive>Also some programs were removed. I dont get these behaviour. If I dont do anything, the list shouldnt shrink
09:05<apt-archive>right. I will save those changes next time to a textfile.
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09:06<somiaj>You could figure out the cause if you could identify a package that changed. Then look up its auto flag, and check for things that depend on it. aptitude why packagename can be useful.
09:06<apt-archive>Thanks for feedback referring to aptitude and the programs to have a look at the config. themill somiaj blast007
09:07<somiaj>but the point release had a fair number of packages in it. I to would be surprised for a large change of depends like that, but just pay attention to what apt-get is doing, and if it appears to do something you are not sure about, invesitate it.
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09:08<@themill>realistically, there won't be changing dependencies in the point release other than the kernel metapackage
09:10<apt-archive>somiaj: For understanding (because I am not a native english speaker): It is possible that I installed packages which now need packages which apt-get recognized as "not needed" before?
09:11<somiaj>apt-archive: yes. It could be a new package was installed that depends, suggests or recommends one of those packages, removing it from the autoremove list. And if most of the libs were all tied together, one new package could do that.
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09:14<apt-archive>o.O
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09:15<apt-archive>I will investigate research in the last dist-upgrade packages. Thank you alot for clearing up my questions.
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09:18<apt-archive>* Thank you all a lot!
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11:13<jnsjns>hi
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11:21<live>testujeL inux spark.czy na tym czacie muszę zakładać konto?
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11:22<towo`>live, this is an english speaking channel
11:23<live>ok.good bye
11:23<towo`>live, and sparky linux is not a topic of this channel
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13:12<empiray>`12
13:12<empiray>hey guys
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14:08<znoteer>Upgrading base-files fails. On this system there are 4 packages in fully installed or removed. When I try to fully install the 4 packages, I get an error about not being able to find shared library bc.so.6. The closest thing I can find when searching using pacages.debian.org is libc.so.6. Does anyone know what package supplies the library bc.so.6?
14:08<znoteer>* 4 packages NOT fully installed or removed*
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15:14<Jom>hi
15:14<Jom>good day
15:15<Jom>i have problem with keyboard transit from the languange
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15:21<Jom>there is massage come
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15:21<Jom>error while trying to run
15:22<annadane>hi Jom, can you post your error message to paste.debian.net?
15:23<Jom>error while trying to run (shift+alt) which is linked to the key (<mod4>i)
15:23<annadane>and any relevant output
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15:26<Jom><annadane> i write my problem and send it to the website
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15:27<annadane>so it appears to be this one https://paste.debian.net/989670 - in future, when you post to that site, give us the link in the chatroom
15:28<annadane>Jom, is that the only message you get or is there more?
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15:28<annadane>and i'm not sure i entirely understand your question - do you mean you tried to switch keyboard layouts?
15:29<Jom>annadane it's just a message with out Aplly command
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15:30<Jom><annadane> yes
15:30<Jom>switch from English lan to another lan
15:30<Jom>lan = language
15:31<annadane>i feel like you could probably just dpkg-reconfigure the keyboard
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15:31<annadane>https://wiki.debian.org/Keyboard You can change your keyboard settings using: # dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration
15:31<annadane># service keyboard-setup restart
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15:35<Jom>annadane never change
15:35<Jom>same problem
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15:36<Jom>It's possible as manually
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15:37<Jom>by mouse
15:37<Jom>the problem with short key only
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17:38<nils>hi
17:40<tomg>hi
17:40<tomg>!ask
17:40<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
17:41<nils>I am under sid and recently switched to the GLVND nvidia drivers. while trying to install libglvnd-dev, apt reported libopengl0 as an unmet dep
17:42<nils>I then tried to build it with apt-source and debuild and when installing with dpkg, I got "Version of libopengl0 on system, provided by libopengl0-glvnd-nvidia:amd64, is <none>." Am I doing something wrong?
17:42<tomg>i think you should try #debian-next
17:43<tomg>and wait for a while. cause i don't know
17:44<nils>ok, thanks
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17:47<a34021501>hello
17:47<a34021501>hello world
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17:50<a34021501>I can't see anything and no response
17:50<tomg>!ask
17:50<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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17:53<annadane>a34021501, this is a support channel. much quicker if you just ask your question first
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19:33<ransur0t>I'm having an issue with the recent 9.2 point release update: evolution-common fails to install. Please see paste: http://paste.debian.net/989717
19:36<ransur0t>Is this a filesystem issue?
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19:39<ransur0t>I'm having an issue with the recent 9.2 point release update: evolution-common fails to install. Please see paste: http://paste.debian.net/989717
19:39<ransur0t>opps, sorry
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19:46<ransur0t>A permissions issue?
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20:09<Brigo>ransur0t, provided you are working as root, it has no sense.
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20:09<Brigo>ransur0t, is there enough space in the disk?
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21:15<ransur0t>hmmm, space shouldn't be an issue, but I will double check
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21:23<ransur0t>no issue with space ...
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21:31<blast007>ransur0t: if space is okay, maybe out of inodes? (df -i) or is it a separate partition for /usr, and maybe it's mounted read-only?
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21:45<ransur0t>blast007: good suggestions -- /usr is on the same partition as /, 18GB free space for that lvm partition. It's mounted rw -- I checked permissions for the directory ... no issues there.
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21:46<ransur0t>Not sure about inodes, but I have solved the problem by manually installing the package using dpkg -i --force-all !
21:51<ransur0t>And subsequently re-installed linux-image-amd64 and the new stable kernel. After a successful reboot, I am a happy man. :)
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21:51<ransur0t>(btw - I had the same install error with the update to the kernel ...)
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22:08<kb3ien>getting apt asking me to insert a CD that's in drive 2 into a different cdrom bay.
22:09<kb3ien>When the cdrom was added the path was clearly stated with '-d'
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22:10<kb3ien>sending EOF to the insert prompt causes it to use network mirrors, but the problem remains.
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22:12<blast007>kb3ien: are you wanting to remove the CD source?
22:16<kb3ien>i'm wanting it to work as I tried to configure it
22:16<kb3ien>apt-cdrom -d="/media/cdrom2" add did what I wanted to. It found install disk 3 in /media/cdrom2, but why does it want the disk moved to another drive?
22:21<a34021501_>while the CD spining the high freqnecy nosie on GND!!
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