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00:58<Wamphyri>good morning, been trying to install bind but i'm getting errors such as these Depends: libbind9-90 (= 1:9.9.5.dfsg-9+deb8u13) but 1:9.9.5.dfsg-9+deb8u14 is to be installed for libdns100, libisc95, libisccc90, libisccfg90, liblwres90 any solutions, googles wasn't much help
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01:05<jm_>!bat
01:05<dpkg>In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>.
01:06<jm_>quick look suggests you are pulling some packages from security and some from proposed-updates for jessie
01:07<jm_>or rather jessie-updates
01:09<Wamphyri>http://paste.debian.net/991614/
01:09<Wamphyri>i included my sources.list for you as well
01:09<Wamphyri>since its the stock one that comes installed :)
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01:10<Wamphyri>jm_, that is the information your looking for tho correct?
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01:11<jm_>Wamphyri: you are missing policy for all the packages involved
01:13<Wamphyri>http://paste.debian.net/991615/
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01:15<jm_>where did you get version 1:9.9.5.dfsg-9+deb8u14 of say libbind9-90 from? it's installed, but apt can't
01:15<jm_>find it
01:15<jm_>that's your problem
01:16<jm_>a quick fix would be to either remove packages with that version or add jessie-updates to sources list temporarily and fetch bind9 from there
01:17<Wamphyri>ok lemmi try the first
01:17<Wamphyri>they came installed on the server
01:21<Wamphyri>looks like it worked thank you very much
01:22<Wamphyri>yeah it wrked bind9 was just installed successfully
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01:23<jm_>no problem
01:23<Wamphyri>3am, i'm off to bed before the wife wakes up lol
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07:17<Maria>Hey dear people, at startup after grub, before decrypting harddisk I got a "[Firmware Bug]: TSC_DEADLINE disabled due to Errata: please update microcode to version: 0xb2 (or later)". I tried to look it up, and found some bugreports on Ubuntu but not on Debian. And even reading the wikipedia article about TSC I did not understand, what TSC or TSC deadline is and what the possible problem is (security?) Seems to be
07:17<Maria>connected to the non-free proprietary blob intel-microcode which is not installed in my system (and was not installed before - this error is new) But the version of intel-microcode is not in any format which resembles "0xb2". So I am confused and worried. Anyone got an idea whats happening and how to solve?
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07:20<root__>hi i am new here , am i secure here ?? :D
07:20<duclicsic>running an irc client as the root user is not a very secure thing to do
07:21<root__>so
07:21<jm_>Maria: just try to use the latest version of the intel-microcode package and see if the problem goes away
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07:23<Maria>jm_: So there is no risk in installing a microcode blob from which I don't know if it is the right version?
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07:24<jm_>Maria: in general no, maybe check the files in /usr/share/doc/intel-microcode if they have a hint about the version
07:24<kira>hi
07:24<Naksu>https://wiki.debian.org/Microcode
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07:35<Maria>jm_ and Naksu: thanks!
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08:48<lllfated>high
08:49<lllfated>anyone good with iphones?
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08:49<lllfated>trying to put unbuntu on mine
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08:53<cc>!ubuntu
08:53<dpkg>Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian. Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu on chat.freenode.net instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian> and <ubuntuirc>.
08:53<cc>lllfated ^
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11:38<ahb>hello
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11:39<heibol>hi ahb
11:40<ahb>hello heibol
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11:42<ahb>hey any one there
11:43<itd>dpkg: chat
11:43<dpkg>This is not a chat channel, this is a Debian user support channel. Unless you have a Debian support question, please chat elsewhere, like #debian-offtopic, or #moocows on irc.oftc.net or ##chat on irc.freenode.net.
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11:46<ahb>sorry for this,i am new here
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11:50<itd>ahb: No problem. Just don't expect someone to chat with you. ;) (If you have a question just ask.)
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12:31<heibol>When will upgrade firefox-esr to a higher version v+55 in the repositories?
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12:32<heibol>the present svg doesn't support u.u
12:35<petn-randall>,v firefox-esr
12:35<judd>Package: firefox-esr on amd64 -- jessie: 45.9.0esr-1~deb8u1; jessie-backports/firefox-release: 52.1.0esr-1~bpo80+1; jessie-proposed-updates: 52.4.0esr-1~deb8u1; jessie-security: 52.4.0esr-1~deb8u1; stretch: 52.4.0esr-1~deb9u1; stretch-security: 52.4.0esr-1~deb9u1; wheezy-security: 52.4.0esr-2~deb7u1; buster: 52.4.0esr-2; sid: 52.4.0esr-2
12:36<petn-randall>heibol: The current ESR is v45, that'll stay that way for the complete support cycle for stretch.
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12:37<lolol>Azul
12:37<petn-randall>heibol: And I'm 100% sure that Firefox supports SVG since the stone age.
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12:37<lolol>I am wondering why does games like teeworlds and so on work so smoothly and without flickering
12:37<lolol>while my a simple rendering function from my game engine runs laggy and flickering
12:38<lolol>especially when resizing the window
12:38<itd>petn-randall: s/45/52/ for stretch?
12:38<petn-randall>Err, yes
12:38<lolol>it's nothing but a cube with 2 textures, 2 simple shaders
12:38<lolol>is teeworlds using software rendering or something?
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12:39<petn-randall>lolol: Likely it's using hw acceleration and your game engine doesn't.
12:39<Aleksej>petn-randall: Are you sure? ESR are supported for 10 releases only, so v52 will be eventually upgraded to v59 aka next ESR.
12:39<itd>heibol: How did you test svg support?
12:39<lolol>hardware acceleration?
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12:40<petn-randall>Aleksej: Could be, it has happened in the past that iceweasel was upgraded since the old version wasn't supportable.
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12:43<Aleksej>lolol: Probably it is syncing framerate with the screen update rate + double buffering.
12:43<lolol>double buffering is enabled by default by GLFW
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12:44<lolol>teeworlds uses SDL which uses blitting, and I don't think it uses the OpenGL API
12:44<lolol>Vsyn is enabled
12:44<lolol>even glxgears lags, but shows a stable synced 59.xx fps
12:45<lolol>I thought that i had some performance issues with the engine, so I tried my old one which doesn't use shader, just the FFP instead
12:45<lolol>but the same issue
12:46<lolol>I am pretty sure anything OpenGL have a flickering problem and appears laggy
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12:47<lolol>I am trying Extremetuxracer which uses OpenGL and see
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12:51<Aleksej>lolol: VSync syncronizes actual draws, not buffer ones. If the app's buffer is in intermediate state when it's being drawn, you'll see flickering.
12:52<lolol>So i need to limit the OpenGL calls engine side
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12:52<lolol>I think I need to flush, this could be it
12:52<lolol>cause I didn't implement the fixed time rate
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12:52<lolol>yet
12:53<Aleksej>Yep. ETR has an option to enable sync, if I remember correctly.
12:53<Aleksej>It has been long time since I touched it.
12:54<heibol>http://caniuse.com/#feat=svg
12:55<Aleksej>Love2D game engine uses fixed 60 fps draw cycles, for example.
12:55<lolol>Tux racer even with this old GPU works perfectly without any lag sight
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12:55<lolol>I guess that it the problem, I will dive right on it
12:55<lolol>thanks people
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13:02<heibol>it's curiosly because on codepen works, but on firefox doesn't, I thought something was wrong, but the thing is, my browser (firefox-esr v.45.7.0) can't support it.
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13:14<prixtis>I just updated my debian jessie. the only updates available were xserver related. after the update i restarted and after i logged in it took more that 30 seconds for my wallpaper to appear along with the icons. Prior to the update the desktop loaded instantly
13:15<prixtis>and this happens everytime i log in now
13:15<prixtis>any help?
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13:19<heibol>what's your desktop enviroment or windows manager?
13:19<prixtis>xfce
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13:28<heibol>maybe it's the start of xfdesktop.
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13:29<prixtis>what should i check?
13:29<prixtis>or is there a way to roll back?
13:29<prixtis>xserver-xorg-core and xserver-common were the only updates installed
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13:32<heibol>the command is in /usr/bin/xfdesktop, you can reload with --reload, man page, verbose...
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13:33<heibol>I don't use xfce, sorry :c, and never I had probrems with wallpapers.
13:33<heibol>I use feh to put wallpapers on my desktop.
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13:37<prixtis>the wallpaper is not the problem, the whole desktop along with the icons takes more than 30 seconds to load. in the log on screen i have a light blue desktop with the debian logo (default) after i login, the login window disappers and all i have is the default log on screen light blue and debian logo until the desktop comes up wiht the icons and my background
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13:39<RealTCC>hi
13:39<RealTCC>gnome gnome gnomez
13:39<RealTCC>does life exist
13:40<RealTCC>stop pranking me
13:40<RealTCC>bye
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13:43<heibol>mmmmm, maybe you could see the error opened a tty with ctrl+alt+f1 and typing /etc/init.d/xdm restart
13:44<heibol>or problem
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13:49<prixtis>heibol i will try. brb
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13:55<heibol>I just try to help, I don't use desktop enviroment, icons.... for many years ago.
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13:58<prixtis>heibol i did it but its just outputs [ok] stopping lightdm and [ok] starting lightdm
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13:58<prixtis>the taskbar loads but the icons take a long time to load
13:58<prixtis>along with the wallpaper
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14:02<prixtis>is there a way to revert to the previous versions of xserver-xorg-core and xserver-common? those were the only packages upgraded
14:03<itd>dpkg: downgrade
14:03<dpkg>Downgrading is not, nor will ever be supported by apt. Programs change their data in a way that can't be rolled back, and package maintainer scripts support upgrades to new config file formats but not downgrades. Try: "dpkg -i olderversion.deb" or "aptitude install package=version" using "apt-cache policy package" to get the old version number. See also <partial downgrade>, <unstable->testing>, <sdo>.
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14:04<itd>prixtis: Maybe upgrading to stable helps. ;)
14:05<heibol>or you can try to find support in channels #xfce and #xorg on freenode
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14:06<prixtis>i upgraded to jessie in feb. I still have a vps running wheezy. its the whole systemd that keeps me back. I did upgrade this machine to jessie without installing systemd. can i do the same upgrading to stable without systemd?
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14:06<prixtis>and keep everything working
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14:09<prixtis>ok thanks guys
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14:10*itd thinks you can but did not test it.
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14:11<prixtis>maybe i will do a dist-upgrade the weekend
14:12<itd>prixtis: http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Debian_Stretch
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14:12<prixtis>i know that link. it uses a 3rd party repo
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14:15<itd>prixtis: Only the second variant, if I'm not mistaken.
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14:40<prixtis>problem fixed. I had to recompile the nvidia driver
14:40<prixtis>all is ok now
14:41<prixtis>thanks all for your help
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14:51<barnie>hola
14:51<barnie>uto
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14:51<barnie>samamda
14:51<barnie>deneme op
14:51<barnie>:V
14:51<barnie>denme
14:51<barnie>por tu gfa
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14:52<Erick>hi bro
14:52<Erick>can u give me op on my chat please
14:52<Erick>my chat is #1
14:52<Erick>please bro
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14:53<itd>Erick: Wrong channel, unless you have a debian support question.
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14:57<wxrx>Anyone aware of secureboot status in Debian? Is it possible in someway to boot Debian in secureboot?
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15:01<Aleksej>wxrx: Last time I asked, it is being worked on, but there is a lot of stuff to do left, like setting up infrastructure, actual signing etc. I personally just switched secureboot off.
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15:03<itd>wxrx: https://wiki.debian.org/SecureBoot
15:04<itd>wxrx: (Since #820036 is open I'm guessing: no)
15:04<judd>Bug http://bugs.debian.org/820036 in general (open): «Debian does not run on systems with Secure Boot enabled»; severity: important; opened: 2016-04-04; last modified: 2016-10-22.
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15:07<Erick>tu me besas el pito
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15:16<jhutchins>wxrx: The whole point of secureboot is to keep you from installing Linux.
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15:17<agaida>jhutchins: oh, in other words - ubuntu isn't linux and if debian runs fine with secureboot it isn't linux too anymore - very interesting
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15:18<jhutchins>agaida: No, a whole bunch of serious server operators let Intel know they'd be buying AMD if Intel didn't make it optional.
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15:18<jhutchins>agaida: Ubuntu bought acceptance.
15:19<agaida>omfg
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15:57<lolol>Azul
15:58<lolol>I noticed that setting a monitor in GLFW to have it go full screen make my engine run smooth and fast
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15:58<lolol>while in windowed mode it's slow and flickery
15:58<lolol>I tried getting the monitor and refresh rate and still the same
15:58<lolol>maybe Vsync is enabled in fullscreen?
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15:59<Aleksej>lolol: Are you using GNOME 3?
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16:00<lolol>I am using Cinnamon which is based on gnome but I don't know which version
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16:00<lolol>I will try vblan mode
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16:01<lolol>same thing
16:02<Aleksej>GNOME uses a composite window manager, which means that your application's window gets rendered into a texture and is drawn by the WM. And it automatically disables compositing when in fullscreen.
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16:03<lolol>there's no way to disable compositing for this window?
16:03<Aleksej>*By it I mean GNOME WM.
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16:04<lolol>but ETR seemed to work well tho
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16:04<lolol>in windowed mode, it did appear a bit slow, but I couldn't tell the difference
16:04<Aleksej>No, you can't do that. Even more, KDE WM doesn't disable compositing for fullscreen windows by default. So you really should implement proper time-based draw cycles.
16:05<lolol>I couldn't find the way it was done in ETR
16:05<lolol>I was much lost in the code
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16:21<Aleksej>lolol: Do you use glfwSwapBuffers()?
16:21<lolol>yea of course, how do you want it to draw
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16:22<lolol>There's this awkward feeling that the cube is skipping frames
16:22<Aleksej>So it's glClear(); for (...) { drawEverything(); } glfwSwapBuffers();?
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16:27<lolol>yea
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16:34<lolol>ETR shows 39 fps with glxosd
16:34<lolol>my engine shows 60 variable to 59, 58 fps
16:35<lolol>ETR have a smooth rendering cycle
16:35<lolol>that's the problem, I need time based rendering to match the needed rate
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16:35<lolol>that's what makes the game appear smooth
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16:36<Aleksej>Well, it could be laggy, but with double buffering it certainly shouldn't flicker. Weird.
16:36<lolol>yea
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16:37<lolol>I will report tomorrow if anything worked
16:37<lolol>good night
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16:37<Aleksej>Have you tried using a different window manager?
16:38<Aleksej>Ah, OK. Good night.
16:38<lolol>I will try that some day
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17:27<Guest7046>hola
17:28<itd>Guest7046: Hello
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17:28<Guest7046>soy nuevo , como va todo
17:29<itd>dpkg: es
17:29<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
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18:17<spowser>Hello all. Running into an issue trying to image a partition from Debian 9 -> 8 using dd . I suspect it's due to Debian 9 using a 64bit journal whereas Debian 8 is using 32bit.
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18:18<bremner>err. you're trying to downgrade?
18:18<spowser>The command I'm using is dd -if=/dev/sda2 bs=1M | gzip --best - > /tmp/image.gz
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18:19<spowser>Not a downgrade, taking an older box, imaging a partition with a newer image and trying to boot to it
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18:20<spowser>Restoring using "gunzip -c /tmp/image.gz | dd of=/dev/sda3 bs=1M
18:21<bremner>and this partitition is not system files, something like /home?
18:22<spowser>They are system files. It's the entire os. We have grub controlling what partition to boot to
18:23<spowser>Everything works fine when doing this from Debian 8 -> 8
18:23<bremner>ah.
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18:25<bremner>and what are the exact symptoms, early stage boot failure?
18:25<spowser>When looking for what might have changed, we noticed that 64bit journaling is used in Debian 9. file -sL /dev/sda<number>
18:25<spowser>When we mount the drive, no data
18:26<spowser>Also these are ext4 partitions
18:30<spowser>As a test, I was going to try and install Debian 9 without 64bit journaling but it doesn't seem to be exposed in the advanced install options
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21:02<jhutchins_wk>spacepup: One obvious option is to not try to force any blocksize or format.
21:03<jhutchins_wk>spacepup: Clearly a bad tab complete based on earlier dialog. Sorry.
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21:08<ghost>hello
21:08<ghost>klatin are you a regular here?
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21:11<annadane>!chat
21:11<dpkg>This is not a chat channel, this is a Debian user support channel. Unless you have a Debian support question, please chat elsewhere, like #debian-offtopic, or #moocows on irc.oftc.net or ##chat on irc.freenode.net.
21:12<hacbook>no
21:12<hacbook>jk cya
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21:51<ElToro-Y-ElCuernos>So I used ClamAV to scan my system and I am not sure what to do with the results.
21:51<ElToro-Y-ElCuernos>https://pasteboard.co/GPJAA9Q.png
21:52<ElToro-Y-ElCuernos>https://pasteboard.co/GPJDh2Q.png
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22:01<blast007>PUA = Potentially Unwanted Application. More of a generic detection rule for things that *might* be unwanted. Not an direct indication of a virus.
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22:05<ElToro-Y-ElCuernos>Alright thanks
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22:46<youssef>hi!, can someone help me on how to launch GNOME on Wayland
22:47<youssef>the option on GDM changed to GNOME on Xorg
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22:54<awal1>youssef, which debian release?
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22:54<youssef>unstable
22:55<awal1>!unstable
22:55<dpkg>Unstable is the status of a Debian release when packages can be added at any time, that can disrupt the integrity of the whole system! Ask me about <break>. If you have to ask whether you should use it or how, you shouldn't. http://www.debian.org/releases/unstable/ http://wiki.debian.org/DebianUnstable . See also <testing>, <sid>, <sid faq>, <apt-listbugs>, <apt-listchanges>, <bts>.
22:55<annadane>youssef, #debian-next
22:56<youssef>annadane: okay
22:56<youssef>annadane: sorry again!
22:56<awal1>on OFTC server
22:56<annadane>awal1, we're already on oftc. :P
22:56<annadane>that's implied
22:56<youssef>l0l
22:56<awal1>annadane, right , hehe
22:56<awal1>i thought i was on freenode
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23:36-!-saigkill is "Sascha Manns" on #debian #debian-gnome #debian-ubuntu #debian-welcome #packaging
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23:59-!-sunilmohan_ is "Sunil Mohan Adapa" on #debian-boot #debian-js #osdg-iiith #debian-in #debian #debian-reproducible #debian-blends #debian-arm #freedombox-ci #freedombox #pere #monkeysphere #debian-webapps
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