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#debian IRC Logs for 2017-10-22

---Logopened Sun Oct 22 00:00:50 2017
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00:01-!-diffeomorphism is "Christian Zillinger" on #debian
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01:00<noti[m]>debian firefox 56 honors the config option that enables installing unsigned extensions?
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01:02<noti[m]>I thought upstream didn't allow this except in ESR and Developer Edition
01:05<annadane>noti[m], i didn't think debian had another firefox except esr
01:06<noti[m]>unstable has firefox-56
01:06<noti[m]>experimental has firefox-57
01:06<petn-randall>,v firefox
01:06<judd>Package: firefox on amd64 -- jessie-backports/firefox-release: 52.0-1~bpo80+1; sid: 56.0-2; experimental: 57.0~b9-1
01:06<petn-randall>,v firefox-esr
01:06<judd>Package: firefox-esr on amd64 -- jessie: 45.9.0esr-1~deb8u1; jessie-backports/firefox-release: 52.1.0esr-1~bpo80+1; jessie-proposed-updates: 52.4.0esr-1~deb8u1; jessie-security: 52.4.0esr-1~deb8u1; stretch: 52.4.0esr-1~deb9u1; stretch-security: 52.4.0esr-1~deb9u1; wheezy-security: 52.4.0esr-2~deb7u1; buster: 52.4.0esr-2; sid: 52.4.0esr-2
01:07<annadane>i may or may not possibly be a moron
01:07<annadane>sorry
01:07<petn-randall>noti[m]: firefox is pinned to sid via a RC bug filed against it, so it never enters stable/testing. You probably have more luck getting an answer if you ask in #debian-next, where all the testing/sid users hang out.
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01:08<petn-randall>noti[m]: (also note that it's night time in EU/US timezones, it might take a while to get answers)
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01:09<noti[m]>okay, thanks!
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04:25<Maarten_>every time i connect my phone (android) i get an automatic popup file browser (caja) that opens on the location of the phone... i have been looking online to disable this behaviour... i can find instructions to permanently disable power to usb port or to stop automounting.... but i would like to have the automount, but only stop the auto popup just because the mount happens to be on a usb.... where can i find the config that sets this behaviour?
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05:47<ruslanas>hi guys, maybe you could remind me an option to minidlna, which forces sorting by name?
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06:35<Aleksej>Hi! I've got an issue with Nautilus in stretch: when copying a more or less big file (which happens a lot more often than not), it always displays a progress popover in *every single Nautilus window on every workspace*. This is disturbing to say the least. Is there any way to disable this behavior?
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07:31<EmleyMoor>I've been having problems getting a dlna server to work reliably... both minidlna and rygel have been tried. Both seem to be difficult to keep up to date with the media collection, and I strongly suspect permissions are a big issue. Can anyone give me some stretch-specific guidance to getting a reliable dlna service running?
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07:50<petn-randall>EmleyMoor: I have used minidlna in the past. What issues are you seeing exactly?
07:51<petn-randall>EmleyMoor: But irrelevant of which server you use, it needs to be able to read those files to be able to serve them.
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07:52<EmleyMoor>petn-randall: It can. Permissions issues seem to be with the server's own files!
07:52<EmleyMoor>petn-randall: The mains issue with minidlna is getting the collection "in sync" without hosing the permissions on minidlna's own files
07:53<petn-randall>EmleyMoor: I'm not sure what you mean with "in sync".
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07:54<EmleyMoor>OK - I've added, removed or updated something in the collection... want to get minidlna to "realise" this
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08:04<petn-randall>EmleyMoor: Do you have "inotify = yes" set in /etc/minidlna.conf.
08:04<petn-randall>?
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08:24<lusername>So I just upgraded my debian 8 to debian 9 and xorg won't start because it failed to load module vboxvideo. I reinstalled vbox guest additions, but no dice :\ Any suggestions?
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08:27<annadane>lusername, upgraded 8 to 9 in virtualbox?
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08:27<lusername>that's what I did. Or tried to do, anyway... using irssi from console since X won't start.
08:29<lusername>Kernel module vboxvideo is loaded though, so I'm confused
08:30<petn-randall>lusername: Do you have virtualbox-guest-dkms, virtualbox-guest-utils and virtualbox-guest-x11 installed?
08:30<grawity>hmm, maybe you have the new DRM-based module
08:30<grawity>and you only need the "modesetting" Xorg driver, not the special one anymore?
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08:32<lusername>guest-dkms and guest-utils don't seem to be in my repos, metapackage guest-x11 has no installation candidate
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08:35<petn-randall>!bat
08:35<dpkg>In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>.
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08:35<petn-randall>lusername: Can you provide the info above for those packages?
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08:44<lusername>petn-randall: http://paste.debian.net/992099/ for my output
08:44<petn-randall>lusername: You're missing the output of 'apt-cache policy' (not further parameters).
08:44<petn-randall>s/not/no/
08:45<petn-randall>lusername: Ah, nevermind, found it
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08:46<petn-randall>Ah, those are in backports, my bad.
08:46<petn-randall>!stretch backports
08:50<petn-randall>!stretch backports
08:50<dpkg>Some packages intended for Buster (Debian 10) but recompiled for use with "Stretch" (9.x) can be found in the "stretch-backports" repository. See http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ . A suitable line for your sources.list is "deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ stretch-backports main". Also ask me about <bdo>.
08:50<petn-randall>lusername: ^^^
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08:51<lusername>hmm... thanks. I might just do a downgrade instead. I heard nodm starts X as root under debian 9, don't really have a solution for that right now.
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08:53<annadane>lusername, debian doesn't support downgrades
08:53<annadane>it's a one way path unfortunately
08:53<lusername>It's a virtual machine, I have a snapshot of the earlier state so it's okay
08:53<annadane>fair enough
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09:22<lusername>Fixed the issue by uninstalling virtualbox additions and removing vboxvideo from my xorg.conf
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10:08<ckosloff>Yesterday I loaded Stretch from a netinst CD, installed KDE from Cd (repo), it worked, but today the computer goes into emergency mode kernel panic, I don't know how to fix, please help.
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10:08<anarcat>hi
10:08<ckosloff>anarcat: hi
10:09<Nemoder_>does it panic on boot or later?
10:09<ckosloff>it goes into emergency mode, no boot
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10:10<Nemoder_>I can think of two possibilities: kernel update has a driver that isn't working for you or somehow your drive layout changed and grub can't find the system. either way you'll need a live/rescue image to fix it
10:11<anarcat>my friend is having trouble with libreoffice in stretch - things were working fine before the upgrade from jessie, but we're now seeing major instability issues
10:11<Brigo>i would try the installer rescue mode and reinstall grub from there.
10:11<anarcat>some documents open fine, others crash libreoffice, and some hang for minutes and *then* start
10:11<anarcat>is that a known issue
10:12<Brigo>anarcat, check the bug reports.
10:12<anarcat>yeah, that was my next move :)
10:12<Nemoder_>anarcat: how is memory usage?
10:13<anarcat>Nemoder_: RES: 240M?
10:13<ckosloff>Nemoder_: Yesterday I modified fstab to include an internal drive so as not to be prompted for root password every time, maybe that is problem, I can comment out the line
10:13<Nemoder_>anarcat: I mean how much in use when opening the documents
10:13<anarcat>Nemoder_: well, that's what i'm saying - it's using ~240M of resident memory with two documents opened
10:14<Nemoder_>ckosloff: sounds likely!
10:14<anarcat>i'm also wondering how i can better diagnose those crashes - libreoffice just pops a window that says "i crashed" without any log or whatever
10:14<ckosloff>Nemoder_: but yesterday I tested and it did not p;rompt me, a stab in the dark, but I will try it.
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10:15<Nemoder_>ckosloff: perhaps if you aren't using UUID in fstab it is a good time to start..
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10:18<anarcat>Brigo: so there are tens of bug reports - anything specific you had in mind?
10:18<anarcat>Brigo: or was that just a nice piece of RTFM? :p
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10:19<Nemoder_>anarcat: well, standard troubleshooting is to start the app from terminal. check ~/.xsession-errors and dmesg, maybe run it through strace or gdb.
10:19<ckosloff>Nemoder_: i did use UUID from blkid as fstab stated
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10:21<anarcat>Nemoder_: yep, i know all that
10:21<anarcat>Nemoder_: and i actually did that - it doesn't crash and there's nothing in .xsession-errors or the terminal
10:21<Nemoder_>:(
10:22<anarcat>right
10:22<anarcat>but strace is a good idea, actually, didn't think of that
10:22<anarcat>not sure what it will bring, we'll see
10:22<Nemoder_>if you can create a document with consistent crashes then submit that with a bug report
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10:22<anarcat>yeah, it's not really reliable, which is the whole problem here
10:22<anarcat>sometimes it doesn't crash at all - it doesn't seem document specific
10:23<Nemoder_>might be a good idea to run memtest
10:23<anarcat>i'm tempted to just backport the version from testing and see if i can reproduce there
10:23<anarcat>i'm not going to run a memtest, sorry
10:23<anarcat>this was working fine before the upgrade
10:23<anarcat>there's a clear correlation there
10:23<anarcat>so it's a regression, i just need to figure out how to fix it at this point
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10:24<ckosloff>Nemoder_: Now going into rescue mode from netinst CD, I tried login into shell but would not take me to /etc
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10:24<Nemoder_>!fixmbr
10:24<dpkg>To reinstall <GRUB> boot to your Debian install disk/live CD, switch to the other console (Alt-F2), mount your root filesystem (mount -t ext4 /dev/whatever /target ; mount --bind /dev /target/dev ; mount -t proc none /target/proc ; mount -t sysfs none /target/sys), chroot into it (chroot /target), run "mount /boot/efi" on EFI and "update-grub && grub-install /dev/whatever". See also <rescue mode>, <dual boot guide>, <supergrub>.
10:25<anarcat>wow, weird - strace tells me libreoffice is running in x32 mode
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10:26<ckosloff>Nemoder_: rescue CD has option to reinstall GRUB, let me first comment out line and then we'll see
10:27<Brigo>anarcat, it was just what i said. If you want to know if there is some bug report about your problem, check it yourself.
10:27<ckosloff>Nemoder_: I need to get to /etc/first
10:28<Nemoder_>time for sleep. good luck!
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10:31<ckosloff>Nemoder_: good night
10:31<Aleksej>ckosloff: What's the 'systemctl status /' when in emergency mode?
10:32<ckosloff>I need to get to /etc from a shell in rescue mode
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10:32<ckosloff>Aleksej: give me a sec I am in rescue mode
10:33<ckosloff>Aleksej: I got a shell but it does not take me to /etc
10:33<ckosloff>cd /etc
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10:33<Nickkk>hey, can anyone help me on the last bit of my network please
10:33<raiden>I installed debian yesterday and I've been playing a bit with konsole to get the hang of it. After adding a certain command to my profile on startup as a test, konsole will close right away whenever I try to open it
10:34<Aleksej>If you know the device containing rootfs, you can mount it: 'mkdir /mnt/root; mount <device> /mnt/root; cd /mnt/root/etc'.
10:34<raiden>Can anyone perhaps give me a few tips on how to bring konsole back?
10:34<anarcat>Brigo: yeah, that's what we call RTFM :)
10:35<Nickkk>on one box i connect to the internet through a mobile dongle, and that box is plugged in to my routers WAN port to provide internet to anything else that connects to that router
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10:35<ckosloff>Aleksej: device is sda1, what is command?
10:35<Nickkk>that works fine, but why cant i connect locally to any of the other boxes connected to the router?
10:35<anarcat>Nemoder_: thanks for the hints, turns out the problem was with a proprietary extension installed (Antidote) which i had forgotten about :(
10:35<anarcat>Nemoder_: gdb is the thing that spotted the basterd
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10:36<Aleksej>raiden: Look in ~/.config for Konsole configuration files.
10:37<ckosloff>Aleksej: I have a problem in fstab
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10:37<Aleksej>ckosloff: 'mkdir /mnt/root; mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/root'.
10:38<raiden>Aleksej: thank you. How can I do that? I've been trying to but I'm not sure how to do it to be honest
10:38<Aleksej>ckosloff: Is it a kernel panic or emergency mode?
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10:39<ckosloff>Aleksej: emergency mode
10:40<anarcat>aaand a backport of libreoffice seems to be non-trivial
10:40<anarcat>so go away antidote :)
10:40<ckosloff>Aleksej: so maybe I can login as root, and go to /etc, right?
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10:40<Aleksej>raiden: Just navigate there with your file manager. Or - make Konsole run the shell: execute 'konsole -e /bin/bash'.
10:41<Aleksej>When in emergency mode - yes. If root is mounted, of course.
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10:41<Aleksej>ckosloff: ^
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10:51<ckosloff>Aleksej: I just typed nano /etc/fstab in shell provided by rescue mode, commented out line, saved, rebooted and back in business, still KDE desktop has many issues
10:52<raiden>I can't seem to find it
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10:56<diego>Hello, I wonder if anyone can help me get a microphone working in my debian (internal microphone for my spectre x360 laptop - debian stable, just installed)
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10:56<diego>It says internal microphone unplugged in pulseaudio
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11:08<madduck>sanity check please… why oh why won't this work? http://scratch.madduck.net/2017-10-22-170815-vit-cPKyIk.txt
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11:09<madduck>note this is a test case, but the idea is the same: run an X11 programme using sudo to another user
11:10<grawity>because your $XAUTHORITY file is not readable by that user
11:10<grawity>you never did demonstrate the permissions of that file and its parents
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11:16<madduck>grawity: oh, thank you. That does indeed work, i.e. adding an ACL
11:16<madduck>the error message *could* be a bit nicer ;)
11:16<grawity>you might want pam_xauth or something
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11:16<madduck>but then again, I think hell might freeze long over before X11 becomes user-friendly
11:16<grawity>or use `xhost +SI:localuser:glxgears` in its place
11:17<madduck>right, ok
11:17<madduck>thanks!
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11:31<Aleksej>ckosloff: You probably neede nofial option for that device in fstab.
11:32<Aleksej>raiden: Press Alt+Space, type 'konsole -e /bin/bash', hit Enter.
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11:38<Aleksej>ckosloff: *nofail option
11:41<raiden>Thank you Aleksej! I changed it
11:42<Aleksej>np
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11:53<raven>Hi. I'm installing 9.2.1 on a ProLinant 380 G6, and using a USB stick. The installation said that it couldn't find the firmware for the NIC, so I downloaded it. Where on the stick do I put the file? Directly on root, or in some folder?
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11:57<Aleksej>raven: Just use an unofficial image with included firmware.
11:58<raven>Aleksej: OK? Where do I find those?
11:58<blast007>!firmware images
11:58<dpkg>Unofficial <netinst> and DVD installer images containing non-free Debian firmware packages are available for installing Debian 9 "Stretch". See http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/ and ask me about <install guide>.
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11:59<blast007>or try putting the firmware on the USB stick on the root or in a directory named 'firmware' https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch06s04.html.en#idm46300557292288
11:59<raven>You guys are awsome, thanx!
12:00<raven>Stupid question, but I have only run debian as desktop before, so if I choose the "Install" instead of "Graphical install" I get the server one, without windows environment?
12:01<Aleksej>raven: No, it's absolutely identical.
12:02<Aleksej>Just curses version instead of graphical one.
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12:02<Aleksej>So what you choose is what you get.
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12:04<raven>Ah, ok.
12:04<raven>Do I use another fine instead of the one blast007 pasted me, for servers?
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12:08<Aleksej>raven: The only difference between Debian server and Debian desktop is the list of installed packages. You can use any installer you want - what you'll get depends of your choices during the installation.
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12:53<readysetgo>Hi!
12:53<readysetgo>anybody home?
12:53<readysetgo>I’m having a problem with a fresh install of Debian 9.2 on my 2008 MacBook
12:54<readysetgo>(it’s very minimal so far, virtual terminal only, i.e. no GUI)
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12:54<readysetgo>where ctrl-alt-f1 through -f6 don’t switch to other TTYs, and only alt-left and alt-right do
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12:58<noahm>readysetgo: probably not sufficient to fix your problem, but jfyi, ctrl isn't necessary when switching ttys in text mode. alt+f1-f6 is sufficient
12:58<noahm>ctrl+alt+f1, etc, is only needed when switching out of X
12:58<readysetgo>ah
12:58<readysetgo>til
12:58<readysetgo>hahaha nope that actually did it
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12:58<readysetgo>thanks noahm
12:58<noahm>huh. you're welcome. :)
12:59<readysetgo>I’m also running into an issue where I can’t resize tmux panes because the virtual terminals alt-left and alt-right are clobbering tmux’s pane-resize commands
12:59<readysetgo>is that reconfigurable, or is that just built into the terminal emulator
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13:27<durg>hi
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13:28<durg>i have two 750 gb disks and two 500 gb discs. can i somehow build a raid which utilizes the extra space on the 750 gb ones?
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13:29<durg>i was thinking about combining 500+750 into a virtual disk and RAIDing those, but not sure if it is a good idea
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13:32<noahm>durg: raid1+0 is your best bet there
13:33<noahm>actually, no, that wouldn't work.
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13:34<noahm>I'd create two raid1 mirrors (one for each same-size pair) and put those mirrors in an LVM VG
13:35<noahm>that will give you 1250 gb of fully mirrored storage.
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13:35<durg>ok, that's an nice option
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13:37<cinus>hello
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13:38<durg>thank you
13:38<durg>hi
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13:40<durg>the other option i consider would be raid 5 with only using 500 gb of each disk, for a total of 1500 gb if i am not mistaken
13:42<durg>but i am willing to drop 250 gb to get fully mirrored storage
13:42<dvs>durg, how many disks? 4?
13:43<durg>yes
13:43<dvs>I think that would result in 1TB raid with a spare.
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13:45<durg>hm maybe i misunderstood raid5 then
13:45<cinus>I do not remember - but I read that 'Debian Stretch' does not support Phone+Android+USB. Can I get some information? Does not work my phone after USB in Debian Stretch 9.2. Command: lsusb Can not see the connected phone.
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13:47<cinus>In 'Debian 8.9 - Jessie' - everything works as it should.
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13:49<cinus>Next: IN 'Debian 9.2 - Stretch' - do not see the USB router
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13:50<cinus>In 'Debian 8.9 - Jessie' router USB works well (Bus 003 Device 010: ID 1bbb:0195 T & A Mobile Phones)
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14:27<durg>are you talking about tethering?
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14:29<testbh>hi guys, anyone have 2 mins to help with some viritualbox questions? thanks
14:31<durg>it's best to just ask the questions and see if someone can answer them
14:31<durg>!ask
14:31<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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14:32<testbh>thanks, am running 2 linux on viritualbox, and i want to configure one as router for second one.
14:33<testbh>server1 router to server2, the server1 would run dhcp.. but as these viritualbox give me some questions which one to chose for server1 or server2, host only etc..
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14:36<rob_debian>Hi all !
14:37<durg>i never tried setting this up myself, but maybe this page helps? https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch06.html
14:39<rob_debian>Please, I would like to know if 'Neuro Debian' Project is backed by the Debian Project, although it seems to me that 'Neuro Debian' is not official.
14:40<durg>i'd guess you need internal or bridged networking
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14:43<durg>or host-only if the host is involved as well
14:45<testbh>thanks mate, i did set currently as; server 2 with wifi nic and host only, and server 1 with host only. I've added route and i can pin server1-to-server2 but i got no intrenet access on server1 which is hostonly.
14:45<testbh>if it was box directly with two nic cards, i could route one car to switch to other network and have dhcp, but in viritualbox donno where to start :)
14:46<testbh>thanks for reply durg, havent used irc for 17 years now :) its nice to see this still works :-))
14:47<durg>yes irc is a good and simple concept
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14:48<rob_debian>Hi durg ! Please, can you help me ?
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14:48<durg>i never heard about neuro debian
14:49<rob_debian>oh, so it's not officially supported also :(
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14:49<rob_debian>http://neuro.debian.net/
14:49<durg>i am not anything like an official debian representative thought :-)
14:50<rob_debian>I see, durg
14:50<durg>it says that the VMs cannot connect to the outside world on the page, testbh
14:50<durg>i just read it
14:50<rob_debian> I just would like to use its repository but only if it didn't cause any conflict to official debian repositories, but I suspect I'm tryig to live an uthopia here
14:51<durg>in host-only-mode
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14:51<rob_debian>but, thanks anyway, durg f:)
14:51<rob_debian>:)
14:52<durg>welcome
14:52<testbh>thanks mate
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14:53<durg>may 6.5 bridged networking is what you want
14:53<durg>*maybe
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14:53<testbh>ohh look this if u got second
14:53<testbh>https://www.lisenet.com/2015/setup-linux-home-lab-environment-with-oracle-virtualbox/
14:53<testbh>the part where he says about "There is a Puppet management server,"
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14:56<testbh>Optionally, the Puppet server can be configured as a router to provide Internet access to other virtual machines.
14:57<testbh>so if understand correctly, i could do same on my two servers
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14:57<durg>yes seems possible
14:57<ElToro-Y-ElCuernos>I want to boost my CPU performance. I got an HP Stream 11 laptop. Memory used usually doen't exceed more than around 2 gigs. The CPUs are where the limitation is. CPU model is:
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14:58<ElToro-Y-ElCuernos>Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU N3060 @ 1.60GHz, 800 MHz
14:59<testbh>I'll give it a try
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15:00<ElToro-Y-ElCuernos>I like this computer. The fanless design saves on power. Given it has no fans I would think overclocking is out of the question. Is it possible to undervolt N3060 CPUs?
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15:04<durg>testbh: you could probably also use bridged networking, where every guest seems to get its own networking device on the host, and set up the network like you want it to be
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15:06<durg>i think a documentation is a little short to be honest
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15:06<durg>*the documentation
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15:08<testbh>i just dig up i can turn of dhcp in host only for vms
15:08<testbh>idea, is that i have one server runing as router to all in subnet
15:08<testbh>as gateway for internet
15:09<testbh>bcos i want to maybe in end have many servers runing as posible
15:09<testbh>but as for start I want server-as-router and one machine under it
15:09<durg>yes, if i understand it correctly guest1 gets (say) tap1 on the host, and guest2 gets tap2. you can then bridge tap1 and tap2 to connect them.
15:10<testbh>yes, but thats brigde mode
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15:10<testbh>in my case, both machines would get ip from my dhcp router toward isp internet
15:10<ElToro-Y-ElCuernos>I assume y'all must be using high powered CPUs
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15:11<testbh>ElToro-Y-ElCuernos not realy some i5 with 8Gb ram
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15:12<ElToro-Y-ElCuernos>Yeah that is enough for most everything though
15:13<durg>that's true unless you are creating 3d graphics or simulationg billions of particles
15:13<durg>or doing 4k video editing or 4k gaming
15:14<durg>testbh i think almost everything can be created in bridge mode
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15:15<durg>you should be able to connect one guest to the host network to act as an internet router, then connect other guests to that machine
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15:17<durg>eltoro: you can get an used i5 machine for less than 200 bucks
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15:18<ElToro-Y-ElCuernos>Yeah but the fanless design man. low power
15:19<testbh>durg, ill try these as the did on web...else gona do something different donnoo now
15:19<testbh>ElToro-Y-ElCuernos whats big deal with fan ? :)
15:19<testbh>fan is cool, i like fan
15:19<ElToro-Y-ElCuernos>So what kind of server we talkin about?
15:20<durg>raspberry server, completely fanless
15:20<testbh>viritualbox
15:20<durg>ah this one, yes, true
15:21<testbh>btw, other day i put heatsink and fan to my meegopad t01, got it 2 years ago for kids tv watching youtube cartoons :)
15:22<testbh>fans are our mates
15:22<testbh>!vote fans :-)
15:22<dpkg>Vote for fans :-)! Your ticket to free lunches!
15:22<ElToro-Y-ElCuernos>I've used VBox before. I want to learn Qemu but the documentation seems to be few and far between
15:23<ElToro-Y-ElCuernos>I mean there just doesn't seem to be a quickstart guide
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15:29<durg>i got working networking in qemu but it was quite a pain
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15:29<durg>*network working
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15:30<durg>qemu itself isn't really hard, you just need to give it enough command line parameters it knows how your computer is configured
15:30<durg>add a hdd, etc
15:30<ElToro-Y-ElCuernos>Im on #qemu now hopefully someone there has a link to a good guide
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19:58<guilherme>hi, have you ever compiled the debian linux kernel with the icc compiler?
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20:16<diego>Hi, I have a weird issue... The microphone does not work but the weird part is that sometimes it did (sometimes, I boot and it works, but most of the times it doesn't)
20:16<diego>Any help trying to figure this out ?
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20:37<guilherme>hi, have you ever compiled the debian linux kernel with the icc compiler?
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20:46<dvs>nope
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20:47<annadane>guilherme, it's faster if you ask your actual question
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20:51<guilherme>in fact I would like to ask for some guides, because I am trying, but getting errors
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