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#debian IRC Logs for 2017-10-27

---Logopened Fri Oct 27 00:00:57 2017
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01:02<Guest7521>sup guys
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01:03<Guest7521>vpn or no vpn this is the question
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02:25<casawi>ciao
02:25<casawi>come install wireless su debian 9
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02:27<annadane>casawi, wireless what? what kind of device?
02:27<casawi>si
02:27<annadane>also, if you prefer an italian chat,
02:27<annadane>!it
02:27<dpkg>Ciao, vai su #debian-it per ricevere aiuto in italiano. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help.
02:27<Administrator>!fr
02:27<dpkg>Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr. Francophone users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr.
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02:30<casawi>A privacy reminder from YouTube, a Google company
02:30<casawi>IT
02:30<casawi>0:18 / 2:11
02:30<casawi>Up next
02:30<casawi>Autoplay
02:30-!-casawi was kicked from #debian by debhelper [flood. Please use http://paste.debian.net instead.]
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02:35<casawi>install firmware -iwlwifi debian plz
02:36<casawi>inux linux-001 4.13.0-1-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.13.4-1 (2017-10-01) x86_64 GNU/Linux
02:36<casawi>kernal 3.13-0-1amd64
02:37<annadane>casawi, you need to add contrib and non-free to your sources list for that
02:38<annadane>casawi, see https://wiki.debian.org/SourcesList and "apt update" "apt install firmware-iwlwifi"
02:39<annadane>casawi, then, because it's firmware, you probably need to reboot
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02:40<casawi>ok
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02:57<casawi>devo copiare quisti file nell /etc/apt/sources.list (deb http://site.example.com/debian distribuzione componente1 componente2 componente3
02:57<casawi>deb-src http://site.example.com/debian distribuzione componente1 componente2 componente3
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03:09<durg>!it
03:09<dpkg>Ciao, vai su #debian-it per ricevere aiuto in italiano. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help.
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04:36<jm_>tried using pam-auth-update?
04:37<danlii>jm_: As I said, yes. But it's interactive. I want to do it by something like "pam-auth-update --disable-sss" and be done with it. Not use arrow keys and space and enter.
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04:38<jm_>ahh I missed that, sorry
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04:40<jm_>that's coming from debconf so man 7 debconf and read about Frontends
04:41<willemb>I just installed Jessie, and am trying to use cgroups for the first time. All the guides I can find online say to configure /etc/cgrules.conf and /etc/cgconfig.conf, then restart cgconfig.
04:41<willemb>cgconfig is not a service on my server. what am I missing?
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04:44<jm_>cgroup-tools includes /usr/share/doc/cgroup-tools/examples/cgconfig. maybe look there
04:46<willemb>that looks like a sysv init script
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04:47<jm_>these days one can configure cgroups via systemd no? so perhaps look at that instead
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04:48<jm_>not sure if both methods offer the same functionality though
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04:50<willemb>jm_: That would also be great, if I can find decent examples of how to do something simple, like: allow everyone in the staff group equal cpu shares
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05:02<willemb>what would be great, is if you could just set the cpushares value in the scripts' unit file
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05:03<willemb>wait. can I do that?
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05:12<durg>are there tools for sending hdmi over ethernet?
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05:20<towo^work>tools? for that hardware is needed
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05:25<mr_byt3s>sending a hdmi signal via ethernet?! i'm curious why someone would actually need this
05:26<towo^work>to cover a longer distance?
05:27<towo^work>to send the signal to mor then one display?
05:27<towo^work>*more
05:28<durg>yes. well, basically i am looking for a cheap way to record a hdmi signal from another device. i can't believe how expensive these capture cards are.
05:28<durg>recording it with my debian box, that is
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05:35<treaki_>heyhey, i am missing lxc-net on debian 9, how is it named now?
05:35<treaki_>https://paste.debian.net/992958/
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06:01<adhawkins>Hi all. I'm using apticron to mail me when packages on my debian machines need upgrading. However, one in particular (which has mono installed) generates an email with excessively long lines, which my mail server rejects.
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06:01<adhawkins>Any way of configuring either apticron or apt-listchanges to line wrap the output?
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06:04<jm_>sounds like a great mail server :)
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06:22<adhawkins>jm_: It's exim's default configuration on Debian.
06:22<adhawkins>The line length it's complaining about is something like 5000 characters...
06:23<adhawkins>The configured limit is 998 'octets'
06:23<jamesmc>Yeah, I think SMTP says 1000 without extensions
06:24<willemb>ok, I see how I can limit resource usage for something like apache/mysql, which is started as a systemd service. Any idea how I can set cpuslices for php processes fired off via suexec?
06:24<adhawkins>This is the line concerned...: http://paste.debian.net/992969/
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06:32<jm_>adhawkins: I just tried this on debian with exim -- perl -e 'print "A" x 8000' | mail -s test myuser@localhost, it received it just fine
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06:35<adhawkins>jm_: Trying now...
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06:36<adhawkins>Hmmm...received here too.
06:36<adhawkins>Wonder if it's only for mail received remotely via SMTP?
06:36<jm_>adhawkins: do you have exact error on that apticron issue?
06:37<jm_>hmm let met test remote too
06:38<stripe>Hi all, running stretch, could I find my socket type without stripping the machine down? wanting to upgrade from i5 to i7 (Haswell) cheers
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06:39<adhawkins>http://paste.debian.net/992976/
06:39<jm_>stripe: try dmidecode and then lookup MB info online
06:40<stripe>jm Thanks mate, will do
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06:40<adhawkins>jm_: With that perl snippet from a remote machine, I get the same error.
06:40<adhawkins>I'm running nullmailer on all my machines apart from my 'main' mail server, which is exim.
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06:43<jm_>adhawkins: crap, sending from a remote host my mail got split into lines :)
06:43<adhawkins>Ha! Maybe the mailer on the 'local' host split it before sending remotely?
06:44<adhawkins>Perhaps the issue is with nullmailer not wrapping long lines?
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06:45<jm_>not sure where it got split + not easy to debug as we use TLS at work (mail goes via a relay to me)
06:45<adhawkins>Not helpful :)
06:46<adhawkins>So, I need something to perform the line wrapping. Either apticron / apt-listchanges so it's done 'at source', or nullmailer to do it before it tries to send to the remote.
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06:54<jm_>anyway, I looked at apticron+apt-listchangewhatever man pages and neither mentioned any split options, it basically pipes it to mailx
06:54<adhawkins>jm_: Yeah, I've done the same :(
06:54<adhawkins>I guess I could write something that periodically goes through any mail in the nullmailer queue and word wraps it...
06:58<jm_>I'll try to send it using nc to another box with debian
06:58<adhawkins>jm_: Thanks, appreciate the help.
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07:15<jm_>adhawkins: ok so nc worked and there was no error about line length, I managed to send a mail with a line length of 8000 from one debian system to another using nc
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07:22<jm_>so I wonder why I don't get that error
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07:26<Pedoporn_Gratis>.
07:26<Pedoporn_Gratis>Someone want to see my pedoporn videos ?
07:27<Pedoporn_Gratis>Hello ?
07:27<Pedoporn_Gratis>HELLO FROM THE OTHER SIDEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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07:32<Pedoporn_Gratis>Hello
07:32<Pedoporn_Gratis>Who want to sex with me ? I'm a girl
07:32<duclicsic>!chat
07:32<dpkg>This is not a chat channel, this is a Debian user support channel. Unless you have a Debian support question, please chat elsewhere, like #debian-offtopic, or #moocows on irc.oftc.net or ##chat on irc.freenode.net.
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07:33<Pedoporn_Gratis>#include <pedo.p>
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07:33<dpkg>This is not a chat channel, this is a Debian user support channel. Unless you have a Debian support question, please chat elsewhere, like #debian-offtopic, or #moocows on irc.oftc.net or ##chat on irc.freenode.net.
07:33<duclicsic>Pedoporn_Gratis: try !ops
07:34<Pedoporn_Gratis>!ops
07:34<dpkg>Please invoke 'dpkg: ops $problem' to call the operators to deal with a specific problem. Misuse of this will lead to a ban. Operators can also be contacted in the #debian-ops channel.
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07:36<duclicsic>thx jm_
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08:26<adhawkins>jm_: That's strange. Wonder if I've inadvertantly enabled some exim setting in the past?
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08:27<adhawkins>jm_: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=828801
08:27<judd>Bug http://bugs.debian.org/828801 in exim4-config (closed, patch): «Legitimate mail can contain long lines»; severity: normal; opened: 2016-06-28; last modified: 2017-01-27.
08:28<adhawkins>Seens to be controlled by IGNORE_SMTP_LINE_LENGTH_LIMIT
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08:30<adhawkins>What would be the correct was to apply that to the exim config?
08:30<adhawkins>I've added it to /etc/exim/update-exim4.conf.conf, and now get this: http://paste.debian.net/992991/
08:31<adhawkins>It does seem to have done the trick though.
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10:07<Pr3achr>Hey, guys!
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10:09<hachik>hi. How to set up vim as default editor for single user, not system wide?
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10:16<bremner>you can use the EDITOR or VISUAL environment variables, e.g. in .bash-profile
10:17<bremner>err. whatever that file is called. I'm using zsh so I forget
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10:17<hachik>thanks
10:17<bremner>something like "export EDITOR=vim" in the appropriate file
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10:21<hachik>yep,FYI in .profile should have to add 3 lines: editor=vi VISUAL=$EDITOR export EDITOR VISUAL
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11:21<rockstorm>Hi all, I'm trying to compile a C file which has a line that says '#include <jni.h>', I've installed the package "gcj-6-jdk" which includes the jni.h file in '/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/6/include' however it seems this directory is not automatically searched by the linker because it fails with "fatal error: jni.h: No such file or directory"
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11:22<rockstorm>Do I have to do anything else for the linker to find it? Or must I add '-I/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/6/include' to the command line?
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11:24<Brigo>rockstorm, there is several packages with a file with that name: http://paste.debian.net/993022/
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11:26<rockstorm>Brigo, is any of those more convenient than "gcj-6-jdk"?
11:26<Brigo>rockstorm, i'm clueless.
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11:27<rockstorm>I mean none of them places jni.h in /usr/include which is a directory I'm is searched by the linker
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11:29<Brigo>rockstorm, is there any documentation about that file?
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11:29<rockstorm>Brigo, good question, I'll see what I can find
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11:39<robertf_>Hello how are you? how to find the network interface card?
11:40<robertf_>it is not possible to up eth0 ifup eth0
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11:46<Naksu>try 'ip link'
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11:47<Naksu>this is just a hunch but i think you might find https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration#Predictable_Network_Interface_Names helpful
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12:59<u0m3>hi. can anyone help me figure out why "aptitude install auditd" would fail with "dpkg: error processing package auditd (--configure):" "subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" on debian 8.9?
13:00<sney>!bat
13:00<dpkg>In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>.
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13:04<u0m3>hope I got all the info http://paste.debian.net/993033/
13:05<retrospectacus>Perfect :)
13:06<retrospectacus>Check the output of these commands it recommended to you:: See 'systemctl status auditd.service' and 'journalctl -xn' for details.
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13:07<jackhill_>Hi, I'm lookin at the linux source package repository here: https://anonscm.debian.org/git/kernel/linux.git . I was tryin to use the test-patches script, but it reports dpkg-checkbuilddeps: error: cannot read debian/control: No such file or directory
13:07<jackhill_>I was sort of surprised that there is no debian/control. What am I missing?
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13:10<u0m3>retrospectacus, not much info there http://paste.debian.net/993034/
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13:18<retrospectacus>u0m3: what if you run `auditd -f -n`? Does it work?
13:19<u0m3>retrospectacus, no.. http://paste.debian.net/993035/
13:20<petn-randall>u0m3: auditd might write logs directly to disk, check the config and/or /var/log/*audit*.
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13:23<retrospectacus>u0m3: your older kernel there does not support auditd unfortunately. I dont' know if there is a fix.
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13:24<u0m3>retrospectacus, well this is unfortunate... will have to find another way to see who modifies resolv.conf :/
13:25<retrospectacus>!resolvconf
13:25<dpkg>[resolvconf] a package that can be used to manage your /etc/resolv.conf (the file that contains your DNS settings). Packages like ppp, ifupdown, dhcp-client, ... are compatible with it. Ask me about <fixresolvconf>, <resolv.conf>, <override dns>
13:27<retrospectacus>a few things modify resolv.conf but there are ways to keep your desired nameservers in there
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13:28<retrospectacus>guessing you are on an old openvz VM or some other container and can't upgrade the kernel
13:29<u0m3>retrospectacus, it's a vps not even mine... and it came with a bit of a strange config by default
13:30<retrospectacus>whatever your actual problem is, you can probably solve it without installing auditd
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13:33<u0m3>well I think so, but I can't figure why resolv.conf keeps getting modified... IPs are static so dhclient should not interfere... and resolfconf does not exist (as in it is not installed)
13:34<alanz>resolv.conf gets written by network-manager
13:35<alanz>So it is basically a transient file
13:36<u0m3>I don't have network-manager
13:36<u0m3>it's a vps... kind of minimal setup
13:36<alanz>ok, sorry
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13:37<retrospectacus>as the robot said, you can use resolvconf to manage it. See also <fixresolvconf> and the other factoids (/msg dpkg fixresolvconf)
13:42<u0m3>ah, ok :) will check it out
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14:13<Administrator>weird, no the testing jigdo files disappareaed
14:13<Administrator>entirely
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14:13<Administrator>the link from this page https://www.debian.org/CD/jigdo-cd/ to the amd64 testing files
14:13<Administrator>is 404
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14:26<itd_>Administrator: https://lists.debian.org/debian-cd/2017/10/msg00043.html
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14:27<Administrator>they were ther yesterday, perhaps another snafu or they're being rebuilt
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14:34<ticktock>hello there
14:36<retrospectacus>hi
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14:55<ticktock>I was just wondering if anybody else has a delay of a minute after the sddm screen when logging into kde in debian testing for the last few days
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14:59<annadane>ticktock, should probably ask in #debian-next
15:00<ticktock>oh, thanks, annadane!
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15:09<awal1>kde have always been a bit slow loading, bcoz it loads a lot of stuff
15:09<awal1>ticktock
15:09<annadane>awal1, they said "last few days" which makes me assume it's not recent
15:10<annadane>er
15:10<annadane>s/not recent/recent
15:10<awal1>few days = recent
15:12<awal1>I tried kde a few hours under sid two or three days ago, it is slow loading yeah but I cant really judge it's recent state since i no use it
15:13<jhutchins>ticktock: That sounds like something's hanging and timing out.
15:13<jhutchins>ticktock: Which release?
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15:17<ticktock>Hello, jhutchins, sorry, I didn't see you
15:17<ticktock>it's debian-9 testing
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15:18<annadane>(so debian 10)
15:18<ticktock>yes
15:20<ticktock>awal1, but for the very past few days, there is a black screen that remains doing nothing for a minute, until ksplash pops up and does the normal login
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15:21<awal1>!testing
15:21<dpkg>Testing is a continuously updated release between <stable> and <unstable>, currently codenamed <buster>. See http://wiki.debian.org/DebianTesting . Support in #debian-next on irc.oftc.net and ask me about <testing faq> <jessie->stretch> <testing security> <moving target> <apt-listchanges> <apt-listbugs> and <bts>. You need a sound knowledge of Debian and be prepared for a very bumpy ride. Don't use it on things that are critical!
15:22<ticktock>awal1, thank you, I know, I will wait and see if it gets fixed with the incoming updates
15:23<awal1>ticktock, maybe yeah.
15:25<awal1>bug fixes may arrive after weeks or moths dependng on which parts of the system are involved
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15:26<awal1>that the bad side of testing vs unstable
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15:28<ach>+np
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15:29<awal1>ticktock, check bts & pts , also you want apt-listbugs
15:31<ticktock>awal1, I have been using testing for the last five years.
15:31<awal1>and
15:32<ticktock>nothing, just saying
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15:36<ticktock>awal1, I've just installed apt-listbugs, sounds interesting. Thank you.
15:37<annadane>ticktock, you should have already had that installed to begin with if you use testing. see https://wiki.debian.org/DebianUnstable#What_are_some_best_practices_for_testing.2Fsid_users.3F
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15:39<ticktock>annadane, I know, but I'm afraid I won't be daring to try new updates if I see the bugs, and I am usually quite happy with testing
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15:43<jhutchins>ticktock: Did it start happening right after an update?
15:43<jhutchins>ticktock: I'd check the logs, it's probably throwing an error somewhere.
15:44<ticktock>I'm not sure, I usually don't reboot for days, so I wouldn't find out.
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15:44<jhutchins>ticktock: For me it's more like months.
15:44<ticktock>I've tried creating a new user, just to see if it's my own session, but it does the same.
15:44<jhutchins>Well, except this is a VM on my work laptop, gets booted every day.
15:44<jhutchins>ticktock: So systemic.
15:45<ticktock>I used to do that ages ago, but not anymore.
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15:45<jhutchins>ticktock: sendmail had a "feature" where it would check it's DNS entry on startup. It caused a VERY long hang on startup, several minutes. Enabled by default.
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15:46<ticktock>I have most services stopped, I just run the usual ones
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15:50<jhutchins>ticktock: Probably not a locked file, but it's trying to do something and waiting for it to fail.
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15:51<ticktock>that's what it looks like, but checking the system logs don't see anything strange
15:53<jhutchins>ticktock: Xorg.0.log?
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15:53<jhutchins>ticktock: I don't know if it still spins up four diffrent databases for "indexing" - could be one of those has a lot of junk or something.
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15:59<ticktock>jhutchins: I haven't checked xorgs log, I'll have a look at it now. Thanks
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16:55<pree>Hello o/
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16:56<itd_>pree: Hello. :)
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16:56<pree>I just finished installing Debian stretch encrypted on a Server, when booting it takes ~2 Minutes to log into dropbear via ssh, also takes ~2 Minutes to login to the system itself, after the login it all runs smoothly, any ideas ?
16:56<pree>UseDNS & UsePAM is set to 'no'
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17:16<durg>are some hdmi capture device supported under debian?
17:16<durg>*devices
17:17<pree>The AVio ones are using standard protocolls, so probably yes
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17:17<durg>ah nice, thanks
17:21<itd_>pree: Maybe test 5-10min after boot. If the delay does not occur again it might be that your machine was not done booting.
17:22<pree>I think I have a clue, seems like ipv6 is the issue, getting a timeout and trying with ipv4 then it works
17:22<itd_>pree: "all runs smoothly" = you tried to load a somewhat large application from disk into memory and did not experience a delay?
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17:23<pree>When connecting with '-4' it tooks ~1 sec to login, so yeah probably ipv6 issue
17:23<itd_>pree: Interesting. :)
17:27<jhutchins_wk>I always see about 10x the v4 latency on v6.
17:28<durg>you can set net.ipv6.conf.all.disable_ipv6 = 1 in sysctl.conf (to disable it for all network devices)
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17:37<pree>Well, the problem is that the Server doesn't configure the IPv6 configured in /etc/network/interfaces, ipv6 working fine on my pc
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17:39<jhutchins_wk>pree: v6 support is less than complete.
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19:18<Administrator>it seems like /var has way too many things trying to store data there
19:18<Administrator>i guess i associated /var with logs, but its clearly more than that
19:19<Administrator>i wanna size my partitions, and i am not sure i want a huge /var
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19:19<Administrator>so assuming I move the dpkg cache, and have another partition for databases
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19:32<QuintenFTW>Help
19:35<ryouma>many people just have a root partition
19:35<QuintenFTW>i see
19:36<ryouma>but databases of course could require a partition
19:36<annadane>QuintenFTW,
19:37<annadane>!ask
19:37<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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19:45<annadane>i'm assuming quinten was administrator but i have nick change messages disabled
19:46<blast007>nope, they changed their name to kay__. QuintenFTW was someone else.
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20:07<ryouma>annadane: administrator is kay__
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20:38<kay__>yeah i dont want to overcomplicate things but i also want stability and management
20:39<kay__>okay, maybe i do want to overcomplicate things
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21:55<mranderson>hi
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22:26<kay__>should I install jessie or w/e it is before testing, and then unstable?
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22:28<tacocat>kay__: https://wiki.debian.org/DebianTesting recommends installing a minimal copy of stable (currently stretch), and then upgrading. Though I've personally used the testing images for stretch when it was testing (https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/) and haven't gotten problems so far
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22:29<kay__>yeah
22:29<kay__>I think i'll use the stable image!!
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22:32<kay__>helps that I just burned the first 6 dvds
22:32<kay__>had to jigdo 4 through 6
22:34<annadane>kay__, that question has a number of possible answers, but... if you really want unstable, the way to do it would be to install stretch, then just go straight to unstable; you don't need to use testing first. that said, be careful about using it
22:34<annadane>https://wiki.debian.org/DebianUnstable#What_are_some_best_practices_for_testing.2Fsid_users.3F
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22:40<kay__>it wont recognize my wifi card, sadly
22:40<kay__>and who knows what else
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22:42<annadane>kay__, during the install? you may need the non free firmware image
22:43<annadane>!firmware images
22:43<dpkg>Unofficial <netinst> and DVD installer images containing non-free Debian firmware packages are available for installing Debian 9 "Stretch". See http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/ and ask me about <install guide>.
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22:51<Jon_>Salve
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22:53<annadane>!pt
22:53<dpkg>Por favor use #debian-pt para ajuda em portugues ou #debian-br para ajuda em portugues do brasil. ( /join #debian-pt )
22:53<annadane>Jon_, ^
22:54<Jon_>Hey ciao ^^
22:54<Jon_>Ita?
22:54<Jon_>annadane
22:54<annadane>oh
22:54<annadane>!it
22:54<dpkg>Ciao, vai su #debian-it per ricevere aiuto in italiano. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help.
22:54<Jon_>Ah k sorry
22:54<annadane>scusa
22:55<Jon_>Sei italiano?
22:55<annadane>no
22:55<Jon_>k np
22:55<Jon_>ty for help
22:55<Jon_>bb
22:55<Jon_>^^
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