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01:17<twb>During install, there's a prompt for enabling shadow passwords
01:17<twb>I want to double-check that my idiot coworkers haven't accidentally turned that off
01:17<twb>What's the package that setting is set in? "debconf-show passwd" and "debconf-show base-files" both tell me nothing
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02:20<jelly>twb: debconf-get-selections|grep shadow ... says it's in lsb-core
02:21<jelly>and it used to be in passwd in jessie
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02:22<twb>thanks
02:23<twb>Hrm, "debconf-show lsb-core" also says nothing
02:23<jelly>twb: and /usr/share/doc/passwd/README.Debian tells about shadowconfig, the command to switch it manually
02:23<twb>I must be doing it wrong somehow
02:23<twb>jelly: thanks
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02:23<twb>is there a diagnostic command?
02:23<jelly>twb: which debian release is this?
02:24<twb>"shadowon" apparently
02:24<twb>Nope, I misread the perl script
02:24<twb>jelly: I have two sets of hosts to test -- stretch and ubuntu lucid
02:25<jelly>lucid is what, something around wheezy age
02:25<twb>jelly: 2010 yeah :/
02:25<twb>so actually lenny
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02:27<jelly>on stretch I got: lsb-core lsb/shadowconfig boolean true
02:28<jelly>and it's present in /var/lib/dpkg/info/lsb-core.{config.templates,postinst}
02:28<twb>from debconf-show or debconf-get-selections ?
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02:28<jelly>debconf-get-selections
02:28<twb>bleh
02:28<twb>I was trying to avoid installing debconf-utils
02:29<jelly>I never used debconf-show
02:29<twb>It's basically the same, except you have to ask for a specific package
02:29<twb>OK this is annoying
02:29<twb>"root@tweak:~# debconf-get-selections | grep shadow" ==> no match
02:29<twb>lsb-base is installed
02:29<twb>lsb-core is *not* installed
02:30<jelly>huh
02:30<jelly>how did you install this
02:30<twb>So presumably some smartarse has moved this into lsb-core even though you can have base-files and passwd without lsb-core
02:30<twb>jelly: it's a stock install from netboot media
02:31<twb>I would've done an expert install and in tasksel prompt definitely unchecked GUI desktop, and maybe unchecked Priority: Standard
02:31<twb>On stretch lsb-core is provided by lsb-compat package which is also not installed
02:31<jelly>well you can check column for password value for root in /etc/passwd is just x and non-empty in /etc/shadow ?
02:31<twb>and lsb-compat pulls in bloody i386 packages, hrmph
02:32<jelly>,v lsb-core
02:32<judd>Package: lsb-core on amd64 -- wheezy: 4.1+Debian8+deb7u1; jessie: 4.1+Debian13+nmu1
02:32<twb>jelly: yeah I can check each passwd entry by hand but I was hoping for something less tedious
02:32<jelly>ah. So I might have a leftover.
02:32<jelly>twb: each?
02:32<jelly>if shadow is enabled, entries in passwd will be ignored.
02:33<twb>jelly: it's possible to have cleartext passwords and encrypted passwords side-by-side
02:33<twb>jelly: are you 100% sure about that?
02:33<twb>jelly: it's *definitely* possible to have null passwords still-
02:33<twb>oh I'm confusing password encryption vs. having a separate shadow file *at all*
02:33<jelly>no, but try it. And they never were cleartext, just visible.
02:33<twb>jelly: you can just change the column to something without $6$ in front and it's treated as cleartext
02:34<twb>jelly: or at least it was last time I tried it around 2008
02:35<jelly>twb: are you sure that was on linux with glibc? that's not what shadow(5) and crypt(3) say.
02:36<twb>almost 100% certain
02:36<twb>let me see if I can find an expendable host to test on
02:36<jelly>if there's no $version$salt$ crypt() just ought to assume old DES
02:37<jelly>I've never heard of either shadow or shadowless passwd column contain cleartext
02:38<twb>It can definitely be empty which means no password - I do that all the time
02:38<twb>OK, got a test VM
02:38<twb>EDITOR='busybox ed' vipw ==> ed: applet not found
02:38<twb>DAMMIT
02:38<jelly>sure, but that's not cleartext and your goal is just to determine passwd vs. shadow
02:39<twb>yep
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02:39<twb>sorry about that, I got a bit conflated
02:39<twb>still interesting to verify, though
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02:42<twb>jelly: you're right that cleartext definitely doesn't work currently: http://sprunge.us/ITFI
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02:56<rjsalts>does pwck do what you need?
02:56<twb>I'm not really sure
02:56<twb>I tried it and it complained that none of the daemon's $HOMEs existed :-/
02:57<twb>I looked at the task history and basically what happened was I found a password in /etc/passwd instead of /etc/shadow, and went "oh shit, how deep does this fuckup run?"
02:58<rjsalts>presumably pwconv will fix that right up
02:58<rjsalts>but figuring out how it got there is another matter
02:58<twb>I found that broken host, it has no /etc/shadow at all
02:58<twb>It has /etc/shadow-, and all the passwords are in /etc/passwd
02:58<twb>pwck doesn't complain about it
03:00<rjsalts>yeah, I don't think pwck would do the shadow checks if /etc/shadow doesn't exist
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03:00<rjsalts>what's in /etc/shadow- anything or is it an empty file?
03:00<twb>man shadowconfig says that running "shadowconfig on" when they're off is harmless
03:01<twb>in /etc/shadow- is a bunch of system accounts, all set to * or !
03:02<twb>Only difference in login.defs between bad and good hosts is "UMASK 022" in the good host
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03:06<twb>Oops, typo. I meant to say that running "shadowconfig on" is idempotent, it's a NOP if they're already on
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06:23<c03b>so... mm... I only see who's connect and desconnect... hum, interesent
06:24<petn-randall>c03b: That isn't unusual for large IRC channels.
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06:45<maxxam>hi
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06:46<sevu>It can be disabled somehow.
06:46<sevu>Hi maxxam
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06:57<IRC23009>Hello Guys, i trie to follow this howto https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Asus/C201 but when i restart the chromebook with the sdcard the screen is black
06:57<IRC23009>i cant start debian from the sdcard
06:58-!-mode/#debian [+l 846] by debhelper
06:58<IRC23009>any ideas?
06:58<IRC23009>I finished this step Now move the SD card to the Chromebook which is already booted with ChromeOS:
07:00<IRC23009>libreboot is installed and I can restart with other device
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07:08<IRC23009>I cant follow this tuturial http://demo1.faikvm.com/trac/wiki/C201 because apt-get is not working on chromebook
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07:14<IRC23009>no ideas why the screen is black after rebooting with the sdcard?
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07:32<IRC23009>??
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07:37<sevu>in the #debian chanel at freenode are more users, maybe try asking there
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08:55<toha>unable to parse package file / var / lib / apt
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09:03<sevu>more information wouldn't be bad. We have no idea what you are doing
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09:28<kinlo>is there a way to get a list of all packages installed on my machine that are not available in the current apt sources? (that cannot be reinstalled as there simply is not a package available to apt right now?)
09:30<towo^work>kinlo, apt-show-versions | grep No
09:32<kinlo>towo^work: thanks, that does seem to be doing the trick
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12:37<rob_debian>Hi all !
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12:39<rob_debian> I was informed that as of today, the repositories using the 'fpt' service would be disabled in Debian GNU / Linux 'Stretch' 9.2.1.
12:39<rob_debian>Please, what changes should I make in my current 'sources.list'? https://paste.debian.net/993757/
12:41<Gabriel_7>rob_debian: reference needed
12:42<rob_debian>Hi Gabriel_7, nice to meet you ! Please, are you referring about the place on the internet I was told about it ?
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12:42<bremner>rob_debian: no changes needed, you are not using the ftp protocol
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12:42<Gabriel_7>I think the only thing disabled is the ftp protocol but the same host names will still be available over http (i.e. you don't need to change anything)
12:42<indistylo>http://paste.debian.net/993758/
12:43<indistylo>tried installing slack client on Linux, getting this error: http://paste.debian.net/993758/ , How can I fix this.
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12:43<Gabriel_7>indistylo: uninstall the "slack" package
12:43<Gabriel_7>provided you don't need it
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12:44<rob_debian>We Love Teach contato@weloveteach.com por teachablemail.com
12:44<Gabriel_7>indistylo: the slack package is something unrelated to slack.com but they use the same file name
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12:45<rob_debian>Please, Gabriel_7, so I don't have to make any changes in my current 'sources.list'... Is that right so ?
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12:46<indistylo>Gabriel_7, thanks it got resolved, did what you instructed
12:46<rob_debian>Hi bremner, glad to see you again !:) thanks for information !
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12:46<indistylo>thanks for your help
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13:19<Blacker47>rob_debian, whole information just for reference: https://lists.debian.org/debian-announce/2017/msg00001.html
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14:17<rob_debian>Hi Blacker47, sorry not answering you before, I was absent here (at job now). Thanks for information and great support, Blacker47 !!!
14:17<rob_debian>nice to know you here :)
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14:22<anton>all hi
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14:31<itd>anton: Hello.
14:31<cheo>venezuel
14:32<bremner>!es
14:32<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
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15:58<nickodemos>Newb here stumbling around with Debian storage box. I am told that 32 processes of fail2ban is not normal. Can I get an idea of how to resolve this?
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17:25<adhawkins>Anyone got any experience of setting up an ipv6 tunnel on Debian using Hurricane Electric?
17:25<adhawkins>Followed their instructions and ended up without connectivity.
17:25<adhawkins>ipv6 connectivity at any rate.
17:26<adhawkins>I should add, I'm a *real* ipv6 newb, so any suggestions for basic initial reading might not be a bad idea.
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17:27<adhawkins>Added the following to /etc/network/interfaces:
17:27<adhawkins>http://paste.debian.net/993784/
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17:28<adhawkins>I commented out the two lines, one to stop the interface being brought up automatically, the other because otherwise I would get an error (presumably because you can't have two gateways?)
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17:31<itd>adhawkins: Comparing your setup to [1] the only difference I find is the missing MTU setup. [1]: https://wiki.debian.org/DebianIPv6#IPv6_Tunnel_Configuration
17:32<adhawkins>itd: Is that likely to be significant?
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17:39<itd>adhawkins: Not sure, sorry. Router no longer fragment packets (larger than MTU on next link) in ipv6 (but instead tell the sender that it's to large and to try again), so yes. 1280 seems to be the default MTU, so why bother.
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17:40<adhawkins>Ok. I was only trying a ping6 from the gateway itself, so wouldn't expect that to be relevant?
17:41<adhawkins>Ah, it appears there's a #debian-ipv6
17:41<adhawkins>Might be worth asking there :)
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18:13<HeissRuss>hi, is it possible to add a user to all groups from a different user? without having to type all groups like "usermod -a -G gr1,gr2,gr3,gr4... foo"
18:22<Nemoder_>maybe if you write a script to parse the output of 'groups username'
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18:28<somiaj>I think you would have to do it with some script, but won't be to hard.
18:28<retrospectacus>for g in $(groups username); do usermod -a -G "$g" foo ;done
18:29<retrospectacus>usermod -a -G $(groups username |sed 's/ /,/g') foo
18:29<somiaj>Be careful with that, It will have a few problems.
18:29<retrospectacus>*shrug* something along those lines
18:29<somiaj>and you most likey don't want to add the user to 'all' groups another user is in, maybe all groups except their primary group username.
18:29<somiaj>HeissRuss: ^^
18:29<retrospectacus>most likely :)
18:31<somiaj>hmm, you migit need somome more regex magic to parse the output of groups to turn it into a nice list, since it does 'username : group1 group2 group3 ....'
18:31<somiaj>you would want to first remove the 'username : ' from the list before switching the spaces to commas or whatever.
18:31<somiaj>I didn't see any nice way to do this with the groups command
18:33<retrospectacus> | cut -d: -f2
18:34<itd>groups $USER | tr ' ' : | cut --complement -d: -f1-4 | tr : ' '
18:35<itd>ah, right whitespace doesn't matter
18:37<retrospectacus>if you are doing the single command with sed s/ /,/g then you will get an issue. On the loop one it should be ok
18:37<retrospectacus>you can do |xargs| to trim leading and trailing whitespace
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18:57<HeissRuss>thx guys i'm gonna try that
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19:01<HeissRuss>i wish a one liner was possible
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19:02<somiaj>well it is, depending on the one liner. I personally would just take the output of 'groups username' and then parse it in th eway you find easiest.
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19:37<HeissRuss>retrospectacus, somiaj: for g in $(groups); do sudo usermod -a -G "$g" paul; done worked!
19:37<HeissRuss>if you just type "groups" you dont have the "username : gr1 gr2 gr3" but only "gr1 gr2 gr3" showing
19:38<HeissRuss>but if you do type "groups foo" then you get "foo : gr1 gr2 gr3" so thats fine
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20:10<Farkes>Hi. Is there any way to look at package descriptions through the web instead of `apt-cache show <package>`? I'm currently in the process of installing a new copy of Debian onto one of my machines and as such do not have access to apt at the moment. I have looked at https://packages.debian.org which will show me the named package exists but I have yet to find a way to show it's description. Any advice that could be provided would be a
20:11<bremner>Farkes: the package descriptions seem there to me
20:12<bremner>maybe you need to click through?
20:12<annadane>Farkes, package descriptions are on the package pages
20:12<annadane>ie https://packages.debian.org/stretch/lintian
20:12<annadane>"lintian dissects debian packages..." blah blah blah
20:13<Farkes>So the packages listed within the installer components such as: https://packages.debian.org/stretch/event-modules-4.9.0-4-amd64-di Simply do not have detailed descriptions?
20:14<annadane>that... seems to be the case but i'm not sure
20:14<somiaj>HeissRuss: but groups only gives the groups for the current user, not another user
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20:15<Farkes>Is there an alternative location I can find details on the installer components so I can see which I would find useful?
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20:16<bremner>umm. ooc, why do you want to know?
20:16<bremner>I've done tens of installs in expert mode and never needed to choose installed components
20:18<Farkes>bremner: I'm just interested to see what the options are. It's possible one of the components would be beneficial. crypto-dm-modules-4.9.0-4-amd64-di for instance I was able to find a page describing and feel it would be worth looking at personally.
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20:19<HeissRuss>somiaj: yep you're right, but thats what I need
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20:19<HeissRuss>somiaj: i think i misspelled my initial question a bit
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20:23<Farkes>Ok. I think I was mistaken about the usage of the installer components. It seems these are packages used during the install but not installed onto the system? This would make them significantly less relevant to my install although information on them would still be useful.
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20:28<bremner>Farkes: well, if you're really curious you can search for "udeb"
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20:30<Farkes>Hah! So there's no documentation for these packages because it was specifically stripped away for the DebianInstaller to save space!
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20:34<Farkes>bremner: Is there a way to look at the non documentation stripped origin file the udeb was created from?
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20:35<bremner>Farkes: if you poke about on wiki.debian.org you should be able to find the D-I sources.
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20:38<Farkes>bremner: thanks I'll dig around.
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23:36-!-tobi_ is "Tobias Frost" on #debian-devel-changes #debian-bugs #debian-til #debconf-video #debian-mia #debian-ftp #debconf #debian #debian-games #debian-mentors
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