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#debian IRC Logs for 2017-11-05

---Logopened Sun Nov 05 00:00:09 2017
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00:00-!-esaym153 is "esaym153" on #debian-offtopic #debian
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00:03-!-_4ls is "LSI" on #area31 #brasil #cebolinha #debian #debian-br #debian-es @#oatha #OpenBSD #pandorah #slackware
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00:21-!-begriffs is "begriffs" on #tails #debian-offtopic #debian-haskell #debian
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00:28-!-gabriel1 is "Gab" on #ubuntu #tor #debian-it #debian
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00:31-!-kathenas is "Phil Wyett" on #debian-reproducible #debian-bugs #debian-www #debconf #debian #debian-cd #debian-qa #debian-offtopic #debian-mentors #debian-derivatives #debian-gnome #debian-live #debian-next
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01:06<ap4lmtree>sentora and rfroxlor isn't in the apt-get package list, is there any cpanel alternative that is?
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01:12<mister_shivers>hello
01:13<mister_shivers>i need help with adding and removing media from an apple ipod touch 2g (debian 9 stretch)
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02:38-!-sunilmohan is "Sunil Mohan Adapa" on #debian-boot #debian-arm #debian #freedombox #debian-blends #pere #freedombox-ci #debian-reproducible #debian-webapps #debian-js @#osdg-iiith #debian-in #monkeysphere
02:39<mister_shivers>is anyone there?
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02:43<mister_shivers>hello?
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02:47<annadane>hi
02:47<annadane>never mind
02:47*annadane screams at the void.
02:49<tacocat>screaming is rude :O
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08:35<denisbr>Hi All
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08:36<denisbr>I 'm trying add Windows 10 on my grub list, but, when I type # grub-install /dev/sda I received the message grub-install: aviso: this GPT partition label contains no BIOS Boot Partition; embedding won't be possible.
08:36<denisbr>grub-install: aviso: Embedding is not possible. GRUB can only be installed in this setup by using blocklists. However, blocklists are UNRELIABLE and their use is discouraged..
08:36<denisbr>Anybody can help me?
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08:39<LGHTNNG>Hi everyone
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08:46<amacater>denisbr: If the Windows 10 was installed using UEFI, then reinstall using UEFI?
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08:48<denisbr>amacater: The windows 10 is installed by default on my laptop. then, I installed the Debian, and, In the BIOS I disabled the UEFI and I'm using legacy mode, but, in the Grub have only the Debian in the list
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08:50<amacater>Re-enable UEFI - see if Windows comes up (or if you get an operating system not found). If Windows was installed using UEFI, it will boot from it's own EFI records. If that's the case, reinstall Debian using UEFI
08:50<amacater>If I have a modern laptop / desktop, I normally use UEFI because legacy support is going away
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08:51<amacater>Also, if you want to keep Windows 10 - boot into it and use Windows tools to shrink the disk ..
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08:52<amacater>Then install Debian into the space - that means that Windows files will not be overwritten
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09:04<denisbr>amacater: Ok, I will reinstall the Debian... Thanks a lot ;)
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11:14<marijnfs>my god, new kernel is f*cked
11:14<marijnfs>first touchpad stops working (tap to click etc.), now the whole thing can't boot
11:14<marijnfs>not even in recovery
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12:50<chaos>so apparently while my network was working just fine the good ppl of debian decided that ifconfig is crap and there's "ip" instead which is such a great idea for googling... cos nothing else ever matches that string ...
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12:50<chaos>and apparently /etc/network/interfaces is no-no with ifconfig but what's the new config file and where is it located?
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12:51<chaos>"ip a" gives me alternative ip addresses for some NICs but how do I make it use the one I want?
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13:09<jhutchins>chaos: Start off by discarding assumptions that aren't supported by facts.
13:10<jhutchins>chaos: interfaces is still a valid configuration tool; ip has a manpage - two in fact.
13:11<jhutchins>chaos: The transition from ifconfig to ip is progress to include more types of interfaces and is way upstream of any Debian project.
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13:21<chaos>jhutchins: so then if I change the /etc/network/interfaces config file while doesn't it have any effect on my NIC ... ifdown/ifup doesn't work at all and ifconfig NIC down / up doesn't reflect the changes I made in the config
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13:22<jhutchins>chaos: Doesn't sound like Debian Stable to me.
13:23<jhutchins>chaos: Not sure what you mean that ifdown/ifup "doesn't work". They do what they do.
13:24<ach><.<
13:24<chaos>ifup keeps complaining "RTNETLINK answers: File exists" ifdown "...interface not configured"
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13:41<jhutchins>chaos: The first suggests that at least one interface was not taken completely down, the second that there is a configuration error.
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13:42<jhutchins>chaos: Which release is this? Is this a system upgraded from a previously working earlier release? How did you end up where you are with it?
13:42<chaos>I installed debian about 15 years ago and kept updating it ever since
13:45<chaos>"ip addr flush dev eth0" ended up making the new config work but i'm still getting the RTNETLINK thing
13:45<chaos>and can't make it go down with ifdown
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13:47<chaos>anothing forum post says the problem is that i can only have one gateway line in the interfaces file
13:48<chaos>but that's exactly why i'm messing with my config ... just got a new subscription and i want to set it up with major network reconfig b4 i shut down the old one
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16:09<jhutchins>chaos: You can have a route for a specific (sub)net through another interface, but only one can be the default.
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17:23<react>I love how patient you are, and the knowledge bombs :D
17:23*react thumbs up
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18:33<k-man>i have this weird issue where 1 or 2 of my screens won't wake up after resuming from screensaver sleep
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18:33<k-man>if i arrange displays and move one of them and apply, then it wakes up
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18:33<k-man>i've tried replacing monitors and video card
18:33<k-man>but it still happens, its damned annoying
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18:37<rob_debian>Hi all, please, where can I find a good and official Debian tutorial for a manual wireless configuration ?
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18:39<blast007>https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse
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18:52<rob_debian>Hi blast007, nice to meet you today !:) Thanks for Great Support :)
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18:56<rob_debian>Please, blast007, if you permit me: how to make sure my user account is a member of the 'netdev' group in Debian Stretch ?
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19:03<blast007>rob_debian: the 'groups' command will show what groups you are a member of
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19:10<rob_debian>back here....Oh, thanks for that, blast007 ! Happy to be helped by you again ! :)
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19:12<rob_debian>the output for 'groups' command, blast007: r4fkramer cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev netdev bluetooth
19:13<rob_debian>I don't know if this issue is related to 'netdev', but I'll try it here. Thank you very much for Great Support, blast007 !
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19:59<rob_debian>well, I'm using gnome in one of my Debian installations here, and I had to configure manually my wireless network, installed NetworkManager but it didn't recognized my wireless network. I used this official tutorial provided by Debian Project, but it's not running here: https://paste.debian.net/994335/
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19:59<rob_debian>I don't know if I have to edit anything now in /etc/network?interfaces,
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19:59<rob_debian>correcting: /etc/network/interfaces
20:00<rob_debian>I'm using gnome here
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20:06<dvs>rob_debian, you use Network Manager or edit /etc/network/interfaces, not both
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20:08<rob_debian>fine, dvs, nice to meet you here ! dvs, honestly I prefer performing all system configurations through command line, so I would prefer making the needed wireless network configurations using /etc/network;interfaces
20:09<rob_debian>please, dvs, do you know any path for this wirelss configuration using /etc/network/interfaces ?
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20:11<dvs>rob_debian, https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse
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20:17<rob_debian>dvs, I'm consulting this page already, but it's not helping me enough to understand how to configure my wireless using /etc/network/interfaces
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20:20<dvs>rob_debian, then how about /usr/share/doc/wpa_supplicant/README.Debian.gz ?
20:20<rob_debian>let me try it now, dvs, thank you !
20:21<rob_debian>tried to open it, but couldn't fix my issue yet, dvs.... :(
20:24<dvs>zless?
20:26<rob_debian>trying to check about wpasupplicant now, dvs, but I was advertised that I mustn't install 'wpasuppicant' for it's just used for building .isos. but it looks like the package I need for this wireless network configuration...I'm completely lost here....
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20:27<rob_debian>I'll have to install it using 'dpkg -i', for It seems I don't have any choice
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20:30<rob_debian>.udeb extension this package, dpkg: error processing archive wpasupplicant-udeb_2.4-1_amd64.udeb (--install)
20:30<rob_debian>I can't configure this network by any way :(
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20:32<blast007>udeb is for the debian installer, not for an installed system
20:32<rob_debian>gave up gnome, gave up trying to configure it using command line, I'll try now using kde-plasma: 'plasma-widget-networkmanagement'
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20:33<rob_debian>yes, blast007, now I know about it... but I suffering a lot trying to configure this wireless network here. I'm only facing this issue in this old laptop, for my wireless network was automatically configured during all Debian installations I've been performing for several yers
20:35<rob_debian>I used CentOS and Scientific Linux for that, and my wireless network configuration was done easily... the same as when I installed Debian other times here
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20:35<rob_debian>now, I can't understand why it's not working fine....
20:35<blast007>are you perhaps missing firmware for your wifi?
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20:36<rob_debian>well, blast007, really don't know.I know I'll have to install 'firmware-amd-graphics' but it is not related to networkg configuration...
20:38<rob_debian>well, I don't know how to edit /etc/network/interfaces. I'll try using kde features for this purpose....
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20:44<rob_debian>the problem is that I'm too dumb to use Debian ... but, what can I do if I love this Distro?
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20:47<dvs>rob_debian, I've seen you in here so many times with Debian installation question. You've surely installed Debian before.
20:48<rob_debian>several times, dvs, I'm have about 13 Debian Installations here, only 4 of them in Virtual Machine.. the rest of them are installed in real hardware
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20:49<rob_debian>but, that's the first time debian installer didn't recognize and configured wireless network properly... I don't have any idea about it, for this same laptop was used to install Debian before, and wireless network was recognized and configured succesfully with any problem...
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20:53<dvs>HP mini? Must be a Broadcom chipset.
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21:38<rob_debian>I have Debian Stretch installed here, this Debian has gnome and kde plasma. I can't configure my wireless network. I'll have to delete this whole installtion, just because I can't configure a wireless network
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21:45<blast007>have you checked if your wifi chipset requires firmware?
21:45<tyng>how do i build an older version of the linux kernel from the git history?
21:46<tyng>i need to get linux-image-4.14.0-rc5-amd64 but it has been remplaced by rc7
21:48<tyng>sources are not available either https://sources.debian.net/src/linux/
21:48<blast007>!snapshots
21:48<dpkg>http://snapshot.debian.org/ is an archive of almost all Debian packages uploaded since 2005, including those removed from the official archives because they were very buggy, unusable, broken, vulnerable or in some way non-free. This service replaces snapshot.debian.net. http://www.debian.org/News/2010/20100412
21:49<tyng>thanks
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22:01<dvs>rob_debian, why would you have to reinstall everything because your wireless network won't work?
22:02<o11c>dvs: to be fair, the installer prompts for networking and those settings are persistent
22:02<o11c>I still need to fix my *wired* setting so that hotplug works correctly
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22:02<rob_debian>I don't know dvs, I'm completely lost here. quite confused and stressed
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22:02<o11c>(specifically: when I *unplug* the wire, it keeps trying to send to it, so every address is "unreachable")
22:03<o11c>rob_debian: wiki is almost *always* a firmware problem - or did you press the physical switch?
22:03<rob_debian>because, next installation Debian installer can regognize again my wireless network as before
22:03<o11c>usually on one of the funciton keys
22:03<o11c>if ou press it, wifi cuts off
22:03<o11c>and often Linux doesn't have a driver for the light to *indicate* that it's off
22:04<rob_debian>I really don't know o11c, for that's the first time in years it happens. It never had happened again :(
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22:05<rob_debian>have you been experiencing issues with wireless network configuration too, o11c ?
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22:06<o11c>surprisingly, no
22:06<o11c>but I have in the past
22:06<o11c>almost always fixed add non-free to sources and install firmware-linux
22:06<o11c>assuming you don't have that stupid button
22:08<blast007>does that install wifi firmware? not seeing it depend on the various wifi firmware packages
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22:09<blast007>rob_debian: what wifi chipset is in that system?
22:10<o11c>I dunno, a bunch has changed recently
22:10<blast007>lspci -nn or lsusb should give you some info
22:10<o11c>and my current laptop *doesn't* need it
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22:10<rob_debian>I really don't know, blast007, please, where can I find this information ?
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22:10<rob_debian>oh ok
22:10<rob_debian>thanks !
22:11<rob_debian>turning on the computer again here
22:11<o11c>I find it useful to call lspci *without* arguments first
22:11<blast007>-nn gives the PCI IDs
22:11<rob_debian>thanks blast007 and o11c, I'll check it here !:)
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22:11<o11c>then look for the interesting name, and use lspci <other options> -s 00:00.0
22:12<o11c>blast007: oh, I didn't realize it wasn't extra lines like -vvvvvvvvv
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22:16<rob_debian>Here you are, blast007, the output for 'lspci -nn' : https://paste.debian.net/994339/
22:17<o11c>so 1814:3090 ... where's that site to look those up ...
22:17<dvs>,pciid 1814:3090
22:17<judd>[1814:3090] is 'RT3090 Wireless 802.11n 1T/1R PCIe' from 'Ralink corp.' with kernel module 'rt2800pci' in stretch. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=1814:3090 http://wiki.debian.org/rt2800pci
22:17<rob_debian>yes, o11c, this line: 02:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Ralink corp. RT3090 Wireless 802.11n 1T/1R PCIe [1814:3090]
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22:18<blast007>do you have the firmware-ralink package installed?
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22:18<rob_debian>so, should I have to install it, blast007, o11c, dvs and judd ?
22:18<rob_debian>no, blast007
22:18<dvs>rob_debian, https://wiki.debian.org/rt2800pci
22:20<rob_debian>ok dvs, but in this case, I'll have to install with 'dpkg -i', for I don't have network on the other laptop
22:20<o11c>your lspci tells us you have wired potentially
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22:21<dvs>rob_debian, that's fine. As long as the firmware-ralink package gets installed.
22:22<rob_debian>ok, dvs, thank you very much !
22:22<rob_debian>o11c, thank you very much too ! the same for blast007 and judd !! :)
22:23<o11c>,botsnack
22:23<rob_debian>dvs, with this package installed, Will my wireless network finally be working ?
22:23<dvs>should be
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22:28<rob_debian>I'll be back here in some minutes, dvs, o11c, blas007 and judd. Have to finish my job here. Thank you, Sacred Debian Warriors !!! :)
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23:05<tlgl>hey everyone how are you tonight .. great to see everyone again.
23:06<dvs>zzzzz
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23:10<tlgl>just a quick question running gnome desktop, how do i switch virtual desktops to put my games on one and have other stuff running on say another monitor
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23:11<tlgl>i haven't attached my two other monitors yet but i was wishing to have virttual desktops for the time being
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23:12<o11c>tlgl: I don't use gnome, but on KDE I noticed it defaults to only one, so I had to add a pager, then configure it
23:13<tlgl>ok, i am not sure what pager is however i can figure things out pretty easily if you point me in the direction of what i need to do
23:14<tlgl>the thing is when i push activities there is a slide bar on the right side that is another desktop but i was wondering how i can add more than that
23:14<o11c>right click on the panel and choose to add a widget or whatever
23:14<o11c>oh, sounds like you already have a pager widget
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23:14<o11c>does right-clicking not give you configure options, to choose the number?
23:15<tlgl>do i just drag and drop stuff from the main window of open apps ?
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23:15<tlgl>ok great i figured it out
23:15<tlgl>yea just drag and drop and when i added stuff to another desktop it created another one
23:16<o11c>there are shortcuts like ctrl-shift-f1 or something to move between them
23:16<o11c>or you can use the window menu
23:16<o11c>I don't remember exactly, I change the defaults
23:16<tlgl>ctrlshift+ doesn't work
23:16<tlgl>how would i change the defaults
23:17<o11c>go into gnome's control panel and search for "global shortcuts" or something
23:17<o11c>again, I'm a KDE user, so this is very approximate
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23:20<tlgl>i found it
23:20<tlgl>just a fyi
23:21<tlgl>go into gnome tweek tool > extensions > work space indicator and turn it to on
23:21<tlgl>that works good enough for me other than changing the default shortcuts for the time being.
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23:25<tlgl>and search all settings > keyboard > then you can change the shoftcuts there
23:25<tlgl>default is ctrl+alt left right arrow for side to side but gnoe uses up and down so ctrl+alt+up and down and that is good enough for me
23:26<o11c>fwiw one of the useful things I do
23:27<o11c>is bind left/right to "prev" and "next" rather than "left" and "right"
23:27<tlgl>yes
23:27<tlgl>wait let me check again
23:27<o11c>that way, since I use 2 rows of desktops, I can just use the mods+right to cycle through *all* isntead of just the first row
23:27<tlgl>no its move to workspace left and right
23:28<tlgl>im guessing that would be your rows?
23:28<o11c>you can choose how many rows and how many columns
23:28<o11c>I do 2 rows, 3 columns
23:28<o11c>but lately I've been wondering if that's enough
23:29<rob_debian>pleae, dvs, o11c, blast007, is that this package I have to be installed on my Debian ? about the issues related to missing rt2800pci
23:29<rob_debian>https://packages.debian.org/stretch/all/firmware-misc-nonfree/download
23:29<tlgl>yea i don't need that many if my job would use linux it probably could if i could get citrix desktop to work since all the apps are ran there ... i think i might work on something like that but might need this channels help
23:29<o11c>I thought we told you the package name?
23:29<o11c>< blast007> do you have the firmware-ralink package installed?
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23:32<rob_debian>well, my network continues withou solution here. see you tomorrow. bye all !! and thanks for attention and great support !! :)
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23:37<tlgl>star trek discovery is pretty good too bad they didn't dub the klingon to english bleh on their white subtitles
23:41<tlgl>well again thanks for your help video games are calling live long and game often
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