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#debian IRC Logs for 2017-11-16

---Logopened Thu Nov 16 00:00:25 2017
00:04<o11c>kingsley: updatedb only runs as a cron job once a day
00:04<o11c>kingsley: and apt-file only works if Contents files are found on the server (and the package is still there)
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00:06<tlgl>sup everyone how's going tonight
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00:07<tlgl>do you know if apt has a package for world community grid with BOINV
00:07<tlgl>BOINC
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01:25<tlgl>i found it and got it working i truely do love deb and ians build too bad he hung himself
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01:49<rjsalts>is there any forum software (similar to phpbb, or something of that nature) that's packaged in debian. I can't find anything
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02:07<cousin_luigi>jm_: hi
02:08<cousin_luigi>jm_: If you remember yesterday's problem, which of these removed packages do you think could be responsible for new device detection? http://sprunge.us/GjNR
02:09<tacocat>not too much which type of device, but kdeconnect supposedly syncs with android devices
02:09<tacocat>s/too much/sure/
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02:11<cousin_luigi>tacocat: A card reader.
02:11<cousin_luigi>tacocat: Partitions aren't being detected.
02:13<tacocat>I'm not sure
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02:16<jm_>cousin_luigi: I see nothing that would be immediately obvious
02:17<cousin_luigi>:/
02:18<jm_>but maybe ask in #debian-kde if that's what you are using
02:18<jm_>how did the test with debian live go?
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02:26<cousin_luigi>jm_: It worked, although I encountered problems with X11.
02:26<cousin_luigi>jm_: Will try that too.
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02:34<cousin_luigi>By the way, since I'm here, some extra applications that use kdesu in their Exec line don't work. The password is kept being asked.
02:35<cousin_luigi>Are things done differently in that regard these days?
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02:42<tom_>is the https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/i386/iso-cd/debian-9.2.1-i386-netinst.iso link broken for everyone or just me?
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02:43<jm_>WFM
02:44<jm_>it redirected me to caesar.ftp.acc.umu.se, so probably mirror dependent
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02:46<tom_>yeah i get that redirection too but i get an tls security issue
02:46<tom_>on firefox and ie
02:46<cousin_luigi>Perhaps a reinstallation is what I actually need at this point.
02:46<jm_>no such warning in firefox for me either (tried with wget previously)
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02:47<jm_>cousin_luigi: why not try «apt install task-kde-desktop» first?
02:48<cousin_luigi>jm_: Hmm.
02:48<cousin_luigi>Will try that too, thanks.
02:48<jm_>no problem
02:49<jm_>I thought you wanted a system without those packages, otherwise that would be the first thing I'd recommend :)
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02:56<cousin_luigi>jm_: Well, I wanted a no-frills system for a special project I'm working on.
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02:57<cousin_luigi>But still, identifying whatever is responsible for that would be useful.
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05:19<RuntimeException>hi, i have a weird problem with hybrid gpt
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05:19<RuntimeException>Why can't I create hybrid gpt with fdisk?
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05:23<RuntimeException>I tried 'x M n x M w' but it doesn't seem to work
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05:24<kunal>hi
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05:24<kunal>hello gus
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05:25<RuntimeException>After re-plugging I still see a whole gpt protection partition
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07:07<batboy>hola
07:07<batboy>spanish?
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07:08<petn-randall>!es
07:08<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
07:08<petn-randall>batboy: ^^^
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07:08<batboy>alli hay gente patatera
07:08<batboy>yo quiero aqui
07:08<batboy>asi que me hablais en español hijos de puta
07:08<batboy>cabrones
07:08<bremner>yeah, good luck with that.
07:08<batboy>debian cagalero
07:09<batboy>tus muerto a bocaos
07:09<petn-randall>batboy: STOP
07:09<duncan>!es
07:09<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
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07:09<bremner>it's either a troll, or ignorant beyond helping. ignore it.
07:09<petn-randall>batboy: Either connect to #debian-es, or speak english in here.
07:09<guilherme>Hi, is prelink a good optimization? Is it safe (in relation with data and also system integrity and stability)?
07:09<batboy><petn-randall> comeme los huevos a bocaos joputa
07:09<manuel>xD
07:09<batboy>ere un truño
07:10<batboy>baneame en debian
07:10<batboy>cagalero
07:10<manuel>Saludos a la GC
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07:10-!-mode/#debian [+q *!*@138.red-83-57-214.dynamicip.rima-tde.net] by petn-randall
07:10-!-mode/#debian [-o petn-randall] by petn-randall
07:10<petn-randall>Moving on.
07:10<tt>guilherme: I don't think so, and I don't think so.
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07:13<guilherme>tt: So, in your opinion it is not a good idea, right?
07:13<petn-randall>!goal
07:13<dpkg>Describe your goal, not what you think the solution is.
07:15<tt>guilherme: I don't know much about it, but that's what I guess.
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07:15<guilherme>tt: Ok, thanks :)
07:16<zamuro>batboy Las inscripciones para el club de fans están suspendidas. Únete al newsletter para más información.
07:16<guilherme>I was looking for zRam yesterday and I saw a couple articles about it and it sounded like a good idea, that is why I decided to ask here to hear from your opinion. Thanks a lot :)
07:17<petn-randall>zamuro: Don't feed the troll, they've been +q and can't talk in this channel anymore.
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11:16<kurda>hello
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11:16<kurda>hi
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11:17<kurda>hello
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11:18<petn-randall>hi kurda
11:18<kurda>how are you
11:19<petn-randall>!ot
11:19<dpkg>#debian is primarily a support channel for Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and take longer discussions and non-support questions to #debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day.
11:19<petn-randall>!chat
11:19<dpkg>This is not a chat channel, this is a Debian user support channel. Unless you have a Debian support question, please chat elsewhere, like #debian-offtopic, or #moocows on irc.oftc.net or ##chat on irc.freenode.net.
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11:19<petn-randall>kurda: This is a support channel. For chatting you might want check out the channels above.
11:19<kurda>why?
11:20<petn-randall>kurda: Why what?
11:20<kurda>nothing
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11:20<kurda>whats your os ? (:
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11:21<petn-randall>kurda: "Why is this not a chat channel"? Or "why should I check out the other channels"?
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11:21<petn-randall>kurda: Is yours Kali, or Parrot?
11:21<kurda>parrot
11:22<grove>!parrot
11:22<dpkg>Parrot OS (https://www.parrotsec.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution. It is based on Debian testing, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #parrot on irc.frozenbox.org or try the mailing lists at http://lists.parrotsec.org/listinfo. Also ask me about <based on debian>.
11:22<kurda>who is developer?
11:23<retrospectacus>kurda: can't you read?
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11:24<kurda>what?
11:24<grove>Why do you care who is a developer? And a developer of what?
11:24<petn-randall>kurda: Read the dpkg message, you're in the wrong channel.
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11:24<kurda>you say i'm leave here?
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11:25<Hedylogos>Could it happen when you upgrade to stretch, that npm modules get broken?
11:25<retrospectacus>kurda: type /part
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11:27<kurda>hi
11:27<retrospectacus>Hedylogos: it could. Are you using the nodejs debian package, or the installer from the website? You might find more help on #node.js on freenode.
11:27<kurda>i'm kurdish
11:28<Hedylogos>using the nodejs debian package
11:28<Hedylogos>#node.js looks pretty empty :P
11:28<retrospectacus>there are 966 people there. It's on freenode, not here.
11:29<Hedylogos>:)
11:29<Hedylogos>mb
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11:32<Hedylogos>can't connect to freenode
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11:34<blast007>Hedylogos: are you connecting to chat.freenode.net on one of their supported ports? http://freenode.net/kb/answer/chat
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11:35<Hedylogos>that url times out for me
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11:38<petn-randall>Hedylogos: Ah, fix your internet connection then.
11:38<Hedylogos>Everything works fine, except that website
11:38<Hedylogos>pretty weird
11:39<petn-randall>Hedylogos: And your IRC ...
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12:17<smokeysea>Hello all, I am on 8.0; latest firefox is not on backport
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12:17<smokeysea>can someone help me with instruction to install the one from their official site.
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12:24<sdk>smokeysea: uncompress the archive in /opt or in your home folder and create a .desktop file in .local/share/applications.
12:25<smokeysea>sdk: ok
12:25<smokeysea>thanks
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12:44<SweetPear>How can I get zlib 1.2.9?
12:45<bremner>from zlib.org?
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12:46<bremner>SweetPear: any particular reason you want that version?
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12:53<SweetPear>bremner: I'm using nodejs sharp module, which needs it
12:53<SweetPear>libpng16 needs it I guess
12:54<bremner>SweetPear: well, zlib.org says all installs of 1.2.9 and 1.2.10 should be updated to 1.2.11
12:54<bremner>so...
12:54<SweetPear>In that case I'd like 1.2.11 :)
12:54<SweetPear>I assume that 1.2.11 can replace 1.2.9
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13:11<diogoe1c1_85>Greetings people, need help as grub can't get me into Debian now. I had 4 partitions on my disk: 2 linux distros, 1 swap, 1 win10. While on Debian I got bored of the swap one so i deactivated it on systemd and commented it on the fstab file. I did the same on the other distro and then deleted the swap partition from the disk. I forgot to update grub.
13:11<diogoe1c1_85>I then rebooted into windows and hited the partitioning manager. Strange to me the swap partition was still there from the windows POV. I deleted it again from there. I the rebooted once again and grub went into rescue mode.
13:11<diogoe1c1_85>I managed to boot into the other distro (KaOS) as Debian was reporting bad superblock. From what i can see the partition names got altered by the swap deletion so grub now thinks my Debian is a Windows 10.
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13:12<diogoe1c1_85>Do you think i might be able to restore the system if i install grub into the MBR from the booted distro?
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13:14<petn-randall>diogoe1c1_85: grub and your fstab work with UUIDs, so something worse must have happened.
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13:15<petn-randall>diogoe1c1_85: If you deleted the swap partition in Debian, and then again in Windows, it sounds like you mixed up partitions and Windows and deleted your Debian.
13:15<aluno>hello peoples
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13:15<petn-randall>diogoe1c1_85: It really depends on the exact steps you used to delete them, though.
13:15<petn-randall>hi aluno
13:15<diogoe1c1_85>hi mr randall thank you for the reply
13:16<diogoe1c1_85>i am pretty sure i deleted swap in windows as it was the only thing 16GB in size
13:16<diogoe1c1_85>in this disk
13:16<diogoe1c1_85>also, i am pretty sure i still have 2 ext partitions
13:16<petn-randall>diogoe1c1_85: How did you delete it in Windows, then?
13:17<petn-randall>diogoe1c1_85: Note that Windows doesn't understand Linux filesystems and will always assume the partitions are unformatted, offering you to format them NTFS.
13:17<diogoe1c1_85>i found it strange and as i deleted it already i did it once again with "confidence"
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13:18<diogoe1c1_85>it is a Debian Jessie by the way
13:21<diogoe1c1_85>i think that now, when i choose my debian on the grub boot menu it throws the cpu to (hd0,msdos3) instead of (hd0,msdos4) as it is hardcoded to...
13:21<diogoe1c1_85>i might be wrong though
13:24<smhar>is there a gui program to edit which services run at boot time for debian stretch?
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13:28<SweetPear>bremner: stil there?
13:29<bremner>maybeee.
13:30<abrotman>Run away!
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13:33<bremner>SweetPear: try to formulate your questions for the channel. It increases your chances of getting help.
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13:33<SweetPear>How can I upgrade zlib from 1.2.8 to 1.2.11 in debian? :)
13:34<bremner>you can't. You can build it from source.
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13:34<bremner>or discuss with the node people if you really need it.
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13:36<Linked>hi, i've just read this "ARNING: Jessie and Stretch backports of Firefox release and beta are gone because of the requirement of rust to build them, which is not available in Jessie or Stretch. Please update your apt sources to use Firefox ESR instead." Any chance of getting Firefox 57.X for stretch ? (with apt)?
13:36<Linked>+W
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13:37<retrospectacus>Linked: not likely. Why do you want it?
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13:48<jhutchins_wk>retrospectacus: It's supposed to have a significant performance improvement.
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13:52<Linked>retrospectacus, it look pretty nice and is performance
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13:54<retrospectacus>ok ok ok ok ok ok ok ok! GL
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13:58<Linked>whoops, didn't read jhutchins_wk comment
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13:59<Linked>i got it at work and 57 has a pretty nice and clean interface, really liked it
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14:02<petn-randall>!sns
14:02<dpkg>Shiny New Shit Syndrome is a serious disorder, which usually breaks out into an epidemic every time something new is released. If you have SNS, ask me about <backports> and <ssb>; these are better options than upgrading to <testing> because it is a <moving target>.
14:03<petn-randall>Linked: It's currently in sid, but there are already users that reported total data loss, so I don't recommend upgrading yet. If you must, you can download the tarball from the mozilla website and run that.
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14:10<Linked>nah, i was just curious if it's possible via the usual way (packet manager) but if it's not recommended yet, i'll still with 52.X ESR. thx anyways
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14:27<jhutchins_wk>57 is probably not coming to backports since it probably requires rust, as jelly pointed out over on freenode.
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14:42<sdk>Linked: The only way to install 57 is be manually installing it. You can uncompress the archive in your home folder and create a .desktop file in .local/share/applications
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16:20<rob_debian>Hi all !
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16:22<ryouma>i just found out i was disconnected
16:22<ryouma>is it possible to make aptitude show the version number of the package that is to be updated to, before you approve the upgrade? (or apt-get or apt. i use aptitude in jessie but idk if there is a recommended apt* in debian nowadays.)
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16:33<rob_debian>Please I'd like to understand a bit better what's happening to this application (if it really does exist here):https://paste.debian.net/996159/
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16:35<rob_debian>I've upgraded this Debian from 'Jessie' 8.9 to 'Stretch' 9.2. It has happened after this upgrade, for I had emacs24 running fine here
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16:44<annadane>,v emacs-nox
16:44<judd>Package: emacs-nox on amd64 -- jessie: 46.1; stretch: 46.1; buster: 47.0; sid: 47.0
16:44<annadane>!bat
16:44<annadane>sigh
16:45<annadane>rob_debian, apt-cache policy emacs24 emacs24-nox, apt-cache policy
16:47<annadane>er rather
16:47<annadane>,v emacs24-nox
16:47<judd>Package: emacs24-nox on amd64 -- wheezy-backports: 24.4+1-4.1~bpo70+1; jessie: 24.4+1-5; jessie-proposed-updates: 24.4+1-5+deb8u1; jessie-security: 24.4+1-5+deb8u1; jessie-backports: 24.5+1-6~bpo8+1; stretch: 24.5+1-11+deb9u1; stretch-security: 24.5+1-11+deb9u1
16:47<rob_debian>oh annadane, nice to meet you again ! and sorry for that, you've already explained to me about the need of 'apt-cache policy...' before ! awfully sorry about that !:(
16:47<rob_debian>thank you very much for help again, annadane !
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16:54<annadane>emacs24-nox "GNU Emacs is the extensible self-documenting text editor. This package contains a version of Emacs compiled without support for X, and provides only a text terminal interface."
16:54<annadane>so most likely you don't need it and can listen to aptitude and get rid of it
16:54<annadane>but if emacs is already the newest version you don't have to do that
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17:00<rob_debian>I see annadane, understood here. in my case I installed all the packages
17:00<annadane>by the way rob, a good way to learn more about debian besides the documentation is just to spend more time in irc
17:00<annadane>a lot of people lurk to get more knowledge
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17:05<rob_debian>yes, annadane, you are right, and I always !feel happy to be here with you all ! I'll follow your suggestion, annadane, really thank you ! :)
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17:08<rob_debian>the complete emacs24 and emacs24-nox installation process here, annadane, just for curiosity: https://paste.debian.net/996166/
17:08<rob_debian>I'll have to reinstall other applications, such as 'clementine' 'xchat' etc...
17:09<rob_debian>but Debian Stretch itsefl is running fine here, as I expected
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17:30<sdk>rob_debian: xchat is discontinued. You should use hexchat :)
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19:05<kingsley>hy does the stack trace at
19:05<kingsley>Oops: *W*hy does the stack trace at
19:05<kingsley>https://paste.debian.net/996175/
19:06<kingsley>not include the name of the program run in gdb, that crashed?
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19:06<kingsley>Could a kernel driver have crashed?
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20:01<o11c>kingsley: huh?
20:02<o11c>kingsley: that's a perfectly ordinary program crashing, after it returned from main()
20:03<o11c>kingsley: if you want info from a running process in GDB, use (gdb) info proc
20:04<o11c>kingsley: there's also `info target` and others that work even if the process is no longer running
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23:45<tlgl_>anyone familiar with rutorrent i just added a bunch of torrents for a tv series i want to get caught up on and they are all sitting at pausing, i tried start > stop > recheck > any ideas?
23:46<tlgl_>guess i should try to reboot first
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23:51<tlgl>still the same issue guess im out lof luck for help with rutorrent in ehre right
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