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00:38<grepper>likcoras: Thanks, I will take another look. Its been frustrating and yes I have been reading docs and guides. In the meantime I discovered Tixati which allows me to do what I wanted with deluge, which is to only run it on tun0 and stop seeding/downloading when the VPN interface is down.
00:39<grepper>I'd rather use deluge as Tixati is not open source
00:40<likcoras>Huh, what does a vpn have to do with the issue you were having?
00:40<grepper>non, I just want to get it working first :)
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00:40<grawity>most clients support binding to an interface, but you can always iptables it
00:40<grawity>(i.e. block output packets from your port except on tun0, since nearly all clients *conveniently* use the same local port for both directions)
00:41<grepper>blocking based on the deluge user with iptables seems like the simplest
00:42<likcoras>grepper: can you pastebin the deluged configuration?
00:42<grepper>the other setups I've seen seem needlessly complicated...
00:42<likcoras>sans passwords and such
00:42<grepper>hm, I've purged it right now. I can reinstall and paste it later.
00:43<grepper>I don't know why debian's setup doesn't work as advertised after setup. I've tried it on another distro (Fedora) out of curiosity in a VM and it just worked out of the box.
00:44<grepper>anyway, gotta go put the laundry in the dryer, thanks for your comments :)
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04:27<gladioacuto>hello everybody
04:27<gladioacuto>back to kernel 4.9.0-4 on stretch on X1 carbon
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04:30<gladioacuto>after resuming from suspension/hibernation X hangs or crashes and sometimes the system freezes. Here dmesg lines and /sys/class/drm/card0/error: http://paste.debian.net/996986/ and http://paste.debian.net/997001/
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04:42<gladioacuto>petn-randall, neither 4.13 or 4.14 solved this issue...
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04:58<petn-randall>gladioacuto: There's no need to highlight me, thanks.
05:04<gladioacuto>what about those hangs?
05:05<Zimsky>what about the droid attack on the wookies?
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10:56<Blacker47>still +R here? my client try to join before auth is recognized. but also for users with fresh installs with problems it can be a problem.
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11:28<chaos>how can I make sure my network cards don't get renumbered by the next reboot?
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11:29<chaos>is there some way to avoid using ethX?
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11:31<qxt>whats the best way to do system maintenance such as upgrades on say 50+ desktop computers as admin?
11:32<Nemoder>chaos: look at /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
11:34<chaos>Nemoder, thanks i guess that'll help in the future :)
11:34<qxt>I am the only one with admin rights on 86 desktop installs of Debian GNU/Linux stable at a company. ssh'n into each and every system is a real pain to upgrade security updates.
11:35<chaos>make a script to do it?
11:35<qxt>chaos, have a feeling there a much more polished ways to do this then using cron jobs and scripts.
11:37<Blacker47>chaos, just change address as described and name and add to the udev config file named by Nemoder: SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="?*", ATTR{address}=="<MAC-ADDR as 22:ff:...>", ATTR{dev_id}=="0x0", ATTR{type}=="1", KERNEL=="eth*", NAME="eth0"
11:38<retrospectacus>qxt there probably are, but cron jobs and scripts that you write yourself work fine, is surprisingly easy to do, troubleshoot, customize.
11:39<grawity>I would strongly agree with chaos' idea to "avoid using ethX"
11:39<chaos>Blacker47, since i'm reconfigging the whole thing anyway i won't bother renumbering shit right now but i've copied the mac address from the file Nemoder mentioned to interfaces so if things screw up in the future I can fix it
11:40<grawity>because, let's say your interface shows up as eth1
11:40<grawity>it shows up as eth1 because eth0 is already taken (by another interface)
11:40<Nemoder>qxt: maybe setup approx as a cache server and point clients to it with unattended-upgrades
11:40<grawity>so how is supposed to rename it to eth0 if it's already taken?
11:40<grawity>what's it supposed to do with the other eth0?
11:41<chaos>grawity, well... i suppose i could go eth99 eth193 eth1337 :)
11:41<grawity>so yeah, the udev rule is good, but go with something like NAME="em0" or NAME="lan0" maybe...
11:42<qxt>Nemoder, could do something like that. Might have a reason now to build a qt front end to a management system I wrote a few years back. I always ask first before I start coding something like that since often somebody else has already done it.
11:43<Blacker47>on general there was udev rules a time ago to avoid renumbering by reboots; now there is new naming shema that (should - not tested by me) avoids renaming by reboots. it can only be a problem (or not) for switching to completely new hardware.
11:43<Blacker47>see also: https://www.debian.org/releases/stretch/amd64/release-notes/ch-whats-new.en.html#new-interface-names
11:47<qxt>[ "$(id -u)" = 0 ] || { printf 'Must be root to run script\n'; exit 1; }
11:47<qxt>doh! sry
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11:52*petn-randall runs qxt's script as root with fake uid.
11:56<qxt>petn-randall, actually have done stuff like that in docker in the past. uid 0 worked clear across the board from host to instance back then @.@ Sure that has been fixed though...?!
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11:59<chaos>Blacker47 good to know although considering i only rebooted my system once the last 5 years this change did feel rather sudden and with inet dead fixing it wasn't trivial..
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12:03<petn-randall>qxt: docker is for containerization, not security. IIRC root in the container means root on the host.
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14:16<tlgl>hey guys again i am looking for a unrar script i had found one that did everything and could do a wide script via command blan.r* and it would extract all
14:17<tlgl>also how would i mount a iso to a drive
14:18<Blacker47>what is a "unrar script"?
14:19<retrospectacus>sudo mount -o loop /some/file.iso /some/place
14:19<Blacker47>tlgl, for the second question the first google result: http://www.ipcop.org/2.0.0/en/install/html/mounting-iso.html
14:21<retrospectacus>you don't need to mess around with losetup anymore. Mount -o loop will take care of it
14:22<retrospectacus>install unrar from non-free and off you go.
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14:35<tlgl>there was a script that would take any type of compression and it would pick up what it was and extract it just by typing in command blah.tar.* etc
14:36<tlgl>i am going to try unrar and see if i can figure out how to extract all files from *.R*
14:37<retrospectacus>if you mean the .r01 etc, just pass the .rar file and it will follow the continuation to the other files
14:38<tlgl>yes that is why some how i found this script on google not sure what it was called and it worked great
14:38<tlgl>and it did anything as long as you had the extraction software installed
14:39<retrospectacus>if you have a desktop env. it will probably come with something like 'squeeze' or 'file-roller' or 'archive-manager' or whatever that will handle them all
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14:40<tlgl>will unrar work from gui
14:40<retrospectacus>if it is installed, then gui programs should be able to use it. Unrar itself doesn't come with any Gui
14:41<Blacker47>tlgl, you maybe means p7zip-full with p7zip-rar, but it is not a "script".
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14:43<tlgl>unrar e -r *.rar
14:44<tlgl>i googled that, would that extract all rar including .r*
14:44<tlgl>woot i got it working
14:44<retrospectacus>yes, as I said. Unrar will follow the .rar file to its .r01 and so on
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14:45<tlgl>so i am trying to use irssi but it is using my account name some reason i can't change my nick after i connect to this server not this one but a differnet one i use konverstation for this
14:45<tlgl>but any idea on how to configure irssi to change my nick on where the config file would be?
14:46<retrospectacus>it would take longer for one of us to answer that than for you to google it
14:46<tlgl>ok so it is possible i'll google away
14:47<tlgl>ooo found it simple irssi -n test123
14:47<Blacker47>tlgl, in most cases you want to use x and not e as parameter for unrar. read the manpage!
14:48<retrospectacus>Yes. You can also put it in ~/.irssi I believe for permanence
14:49<tlgl>i don't mind using this nick to chat with but one site i have to use my nick from the website to chat
14:51<tlgl>im still googling trying to find that script it comes in handy for beginners to linux if i find it i will post in here
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14:51<tlgl>brb going to switch to irssi once i figure out how to have multiple server connections
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14:54<tlgl>hey
14:55<tlgl>i just love how irssi looks
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14:57<tlgl>oh shoot i lost the convo it was mount -o loop /blah/blah.iso /home/tlgl/virdrive?
14:59<retrospectacus>yeah. sudo
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15:10<tlgl>ok so hrm i just extracted this rar but there was this blah.s00 s01 etc i opened that and tried extracting it and now it is extracting rar files again also
15:12<blast007>you don't extract each part individually. you extract the first one and unrar handles the rest.
15:12<tlgl>so even though it was s00 not rar
15:13<tlgl>and it just extracted the s00 and then started extracting the rar files again
15:13<blast007>was there a .rar?
15:14<tlgl>yes
15:14<tlgl>but i had already extracted that and then i seen there was this s00 s01 s02 s03
15:14<blast007>then you extract that one (and unrar will find the .sXX files)
15:15<blast007>it's a single archive spanned across multiple files
15:15<blast007>so you only extract the .rar
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15:19<tlgl>ok cause the folders that were in sXX were not extracted
15:22<tlgl>well bleh
15:22<tlgl>after all this i can't get this game to run
15:23<tlgl>im just going to ssh this to my windows machine and use winrar and get it all sorted and xfer it back
15:25<Blacker47>windows will also not help you if you refuse to read the answers and the manpages.
15:25<Blacker47>also try not to make multiple new things at the same time.
15:26<tlgl>ok well i know i shouldn't say this its a game i downloaded from a site and well im not sure how to get it working so i will try something i know which is windows and make sure the folders merge and try it that way
15:27<tlgl>but i logged out of ssh and now i can't reconnect going to reboot and try again and yes i have been reading how do you think i got things extracted lol
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15:32<tlgl>ok back
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15:33<tlgl>well i seem to have broke ssh when it try to log back in it states that the connection was forceably closed by the remote host error 10054 going to google but if you can figure out anything i can look up i will read it
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15:36<tlgl>im using bit vise ssh client and i tried rebooting as i had the same error
15:36<tlgl>oh i got it was because of obfuscation was enabled .. it is something i wanted to get working anybody use that with bitvise ssh client
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15:47<tlgl>could i have somebody verify if this is the correct way to add this to my box https://zinglau.com/projects/ObfuscatedOpenSSHPatches.html
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15:49<blast007>tlgl: what is that supposed to accomplish?
15:49<tlgl>allows the handshake of obfuscation to the ssh connection to secure it
15:50<blast007>seems unnecessary
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15:51<blast007>applying that patch means you'd have to maintain security updates to OpenSSH yourself
15:55<retrospectacus>terrible terrible idea. At absolute best, it does not add any actual security. At worst, your box is already owned
15:56<tlgl>ok thanks for the info
15:57<CDev>hi. how can I could directly redirect terminal output to pastebin?
15:58<retrospectacus>!pastebinit
15:58<dpkg>A command-line tool to send data to a <pastebin>. To paste e.g. your sources.list do "aptitude install pastebinit; pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list"; to paste the output of a program do e.g. "dmesg | pastebinit". See also <pastebinit config>, <nopaste>.
15:58<tt>there are several alternatives, to
15:58<tt>*to
15:58<tt>*too
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15:59<annadane>CDev, there's also termbin, which doesn't require you to install an additional program
15:59<annadane>!termbin
15:59<dpkg>hmm... termbin is you can paste to termbin.com from terminal via: cat /path/to/file | nc termbin.com 9999
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16:03<CDev>I tried pastebininit. but it does not give me a specific link. its general link. sorry im new to debian
16:04<annadane>CDev, "command | pastebinit"
16:04<annadane>where "command" is your command
16:07<CDev>annadane, yes I did. but its the output link. http://paste.debian.net/
16:08<annadane>err
16:08<annadane>sorry, "pastebinit command"
16:08<annadane>i can't read
16:08<annadane>does it still give just the general link if you do that?
16:09<blast007>that's for a file
16:09<blast007>for a program you pipe
16:09<annadane>right
16:09<CDev>I tried it with uname -a
16:11<retrospectacus>that paste site won't accept data with only one line, I believe
16:11<annadane>wait, seriously? okay, then just try termbin
16:12<CDev>retrospectacus, yes you right. yhank you
16:12<CDev>*thank
16:14<annadane><command> | nc termbin.com 9999
16:15<tlgl>retrospectacus knows his stuff
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16:32<tlgl>do you guys know the default ssl port for this server for irc?
16:32<grawity>6697 works in most places
16:33<blast007>tlgl: listed on https://www.oftc.net/
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16:42<tlgl>well i broke irssi
16:42<tlgl>time to go to help i guess and see if they can help me setup it fails at ssl certifcate
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16:54<tlgl>i had to ctrl+z irssi
16:54<tlgl>would that be ps aux | grep irssi then ps kill -9 the proc id?
16:59<tt>don't kill -9 things unless you have to; try just kill first
16:59<tt>gives program an opportunity to clean up and exit on their own terms
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17:58<tlgl>just a question here so my second game i got same issue running the exe or what would be the linux version of the exe it states bash command not found for KOTOR2 tried running it from desktop states exec not assised to mime and tried to chmod +x the file and same issue
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18:06<retrospectacus>exe are for Windows only. You can try using Wine (windows emulator for Linux)
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18:08<retrospectacus>sorry I misread. Use http://paste.debian.net to show us your command(s) and output
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21:56<vicio>hola
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22:04<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
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