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---Logopened Fri Nov 24 00:00:36 2017
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00:37-!-Guest1157 is "Debian Live user" on #debian
00:39<Guest1157>I've got a UEFI dual-boot laptop that ran W10 until I got Debian Stretch installed and has never run W10 again. Today I tried to see if W10 still booted: it did, but now I can't get back to my Stretch install....
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00:41<tomg>do you know what a GRUB menu is, Guest1157?
00:41<Guest1157>I'm running on a live Stretch image right now. ...
00:41<Guest1157>@tomg: only a bit, and I'm not sure how to enter it.
00:41<Guest1157>Tips?
00:42<Guest1157>I read that entering RESCUE at a boot: prompt or setting rescue/enable=true in the boot command would likely fix my problem.
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00:44-!-Ziberius is "Danilo Vasquez" on #debian-next #debian-kde #debian
00:44<Guest1157>I did mount / and /boot along with proc sys ... and then ran dpkg-reconfigure grub-efi-amd64 in a chroot. ...
00:44<Guest1157>When I rebooted, the boot process said something was wrong but it would fix it, and then I seem to be back where I started.
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01:00<Podsolnuh>Привет
01:00<Podsolnuh>dctv
01:00<Podsolnuh>всем
01:00<Podsolnuh>есть кто живой?
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01:02<tomg>Guest1157: i don't know what's wrong, but at least you have grub. it doesn't boot normally?
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01:03<jm_>!ru
01:03<dpkg>Это английскоговорящий канал, пожалуйста, говорите по-английски или посетите #debian-russian (irc.freenode.net) (Russian speakers please go to #debian-russian)
01:04<Podsolnuh>ок
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01:04<Podsolnuh>Thank you
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01:05<dertefter>hello
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01:05<Podsolnuh>there's no one there is not everything here
01:06<dertefter>what?
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01:06<Podsolnuh>i need help
01:06<dertefter>ha ti iz rossii!
01:06<Podsolnuh>eys
01:06<dertefter>i cfb help you!
01:06<Podsolnuh>yes
01:06<dertefter>i help you
01:07<dertefter>what do you need?
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01:07<Podsolnuh>#debian-russian) zaidi syda
01:07<dertefter>hey
01:07<dertefter>ok
01:08<dertefter>it is new comunity?
01:08<rickyat99>hello ,i'm ricky from indonesian
01:08<rickyat99>newbe
01:08<dertefter>hi
01:08<rickyat99>can u help me
01:09<jm_>!ask
01:09<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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01:10<rickyat99>i can't showing php file ini my browser at localhost #parrotOS
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01:12<jm_>!parrot
01:12<dpkg>Parrot OS (https://www.parrotsec.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution. It is based on Debian testing, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #parrot on irc.frozenbox.org or try the mailing lists at http://lists.parrotsec.org/listinfo. Also ask me about <based on debian>.
01:12<jm_>try asking there
01:13<rickyat99>oke ,thanks for u solution
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01:15<[E]sc>hi.. i'm having trouble with my stretch, the apt-config keeps spiking with 50% CPU . Does anyone have the same problem? is there a fix for this? i tried reinstalling but that didn't work.
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01:18<shawn>[E]sc, check what files it is accessing, and see if they are corrupted
01:18<shawn>do you have ncurses installed
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01:18<shawn>nvm, you are talking about apt-config
01:19<jm_>what ar you doing with apt-config?
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01:22<[E]sc>jm_, i'm not doing anything apt-config. it keeps auto starting even after i've killed it. I did a ps aux and it was doing something with regards to gpgv and shell trustedfile ?
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01:23<jm_>[E]sc: did you try to check its parent? i.e. pstree -lp
01:24<jm_>do you perhaps have the apt-config-auto-update package installed?
01:28<[E]sc>jm_, it doesn't show up on the pstree, i'm running KDE, i dont know if that's part of the problem?
01:31<jm_>[E]sc: yeah you'd need to catch it with pstree when it's running, it's probably only running for a short time so that might be a problem
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01:34<[E]sc>jm_, i don't know if this is related to it, but packagekitd spikes at about the same frequency as the apt-config?
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01:37<jm_>[E]sc: this is just an assumption, but apt-config-auto-update is built from the pk-update-icon source package
01:37<jm_>so I'd say yes it probably is related
01:39<[E]sc>jm_, you were correct. I found it finally. the apt-config, apt-key, gpgv are all under the packagekitd tree, which also has http, https, copy, {PK-backend}, {gdbus} and {gmain} as branches of the same process.
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01:48<jm_>[E]sc: looking at packagekitd bugs there's one bug from 2014, but it says the process stays running
01:49<[E]sc>jm_, thanks. i think i'm reading that one right now, #743251 about packagekitd running indefinitely.
01:49<judd>Bug http://bugs.debian.org/743251 in packagekit (open): «packagekitd runs indefinitely»; severity: normal; opened: 2014-03-31; last modified: 2016-02-09.
01:49<jm_>[E]sc: also this one is about the same as you see, very fresh -- https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=881787
01:49<judd>Bug http://bugs.debian.org/881787 in packagekit (open): «packagekit: refresh-cache transaction restarts about every 5 minutes»; severity: normal; opened: 2017-11-15; last modified: 2017-11-16.
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01:50<jm_>yeah several reports about CPU usage in that bug :)
01:52<[E]sc>jm_, thanks for your assistance. i will try to look into this further and see if there's a way to resolve it. thanks again!
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01:53<jm_>[E]sc: yeah you can follow that bug and add your findings - maybe it helps resolve it faster
01:53<jm_>no problem about the help
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05:18<Flyer>Hi everyone! I’m have a issue that I don’t understand. I configured a debian computer with a usb 3G stick. It’s working fine, but sometime it’s disconnect from the internet and the /dev/cdc-wdm0 is not more present.
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05:20<Flyer>I try to reload with modprobe: qmi_wwan and option, but without success. When I reboot the computer everything is fine again, but after a certain time (days) I have again this problem.
05:20<Flyer>Any idea of what I have to check?
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05:26<gladioacuto>I have an intel 5916 graphics card on my Lenovo X1 Carbon, and xserver-xorg-video-intel installed on Stretch. But cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log |grep 'intel_drv.so' returns nothing, the only loaded drivers for instance are FBDEV and VESA. Any suggestion for why? Shouldn't be the intel driver loaded for that card?
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06:06<jm_>gladioacuto: it's possible you require newer version
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06:07<gladioacuto>jm_, I was reading the stretch release notes. modesetting is builtin in xserver-xorg-core and this is used for those cards, not video-intel
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06:11<jm_>on jessie I see intel_drv being loaded, haven't managed to upgrade this system to stretch yet
06:12<petn-randall>gladioacuto: Check the package description of xserver-xorg-video-intel, the KMS driver will be used on newer cards.
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06:14<gladioacuto>petn-randall, so you do not suggest to purge xserver-xorg-video-intel?
06:14<gladioacuto>from my distro, of course
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06:18<jm_>I doubt it will change anything if your logfile already suggests that driver is not being used
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06:18<petn-randall>gladioacuto: You could remove it, but as jm_ said, if it's not being used, there's no harm in it.
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06:20<gladioacuto>yes, indeed: sudo cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log |grep 'kms'
06:20<gladioacuto>[ 5.165] (II) modesetting: Driver for Modesetting Kernel Drivers: kms
06:20<gladioacuto>so modesetting is providing KMS, not intel
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06:31<grawity>both 'modesetting' and 'intel' will use KMS
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06:31<grawity>though from what I've heard, 'modesetting' is oddly more stable than 'intel'
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06:42<gladioacuto>thanks
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07:19<winotinto>I can play sounds to my headphones using aplay, but on pavucontrol they only show as an analog input. I can't figure out how to fix it, does anyone have any idea?
07:19<winotinto>The headphones are connected via a USB soundcard
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07:52<at400>Does anyone have an explanation for dpkg-query and aptitude reporting different package priorities?
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08:33<rotters>hi
08:33<rotters>مرحبا
08:33<rotters>كيف الحال
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08:35<Blupon>anyone knows what this person meant ?
08:35<Blupon>:o
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10:18<bighornram>I'm running buster updated today. Working to transfer iptables to nftables. The wiki has sample commands. What does the "%" mean?
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10:20<duclicsic>bighornram: do you mean on this page? https://wiki.nftables.org/wiki-nftables/index.php/Moving_from_iptables_to_nftables
10:20<duclicsic>the % just represents your prompt
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10:21<bighornram>ok, tbank you that is what I was thinking but couldn't find a confirmation. :P
10:21<bighornram>appreciate your reply duclicsic
10:21<duclicsic>you're welcome
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10:22<duclicsic>additional advice: don't jump straight into nftables if you're comfortable and happy with iptables...
10:22<duclicsic>too late :/
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11:40<user0>Some more text for my issue, is here: https://paste.debian.net/997414
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11:50<jhutchins>user0: You might want to summarize the problem again, I see nothing from you over the last 10 hours.
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11:54<user0>I didn't write anything for some weeks or so. I need to recover deleted files with rm, but recovery with photorec / testdisk gibves me half files. Means, that the audio player thinks my audio file is at the end, when it's actually in the middle or it takes several songs as one album, which weren't ever together.
11:59<tt>user0: don't mount the device read-write; only read-only post-accident.
11:59<jhutchins>tt: He's way beyond that.
11:59<tt>user0: it may be that all you already have everything that is still recoverable.
11:59<user0>Same with pictures. Mostly, I cannot open them. Error msg: Loading ‘file.JPG’ failed Loading meta information failed.
11:59<user0>Or E"rror playing file:///home/path/to/file.mp3: Error reading metadata" for audio files.
12:00<tt>user0: I mean, that's essentially to be expected.
12:00<jhutchins>user0: There's no batch way to delete the corrupted files, because the OS can't tell complete files from incomplete. You'll have to examine each file and delete them manually.
12:00<jhutchins>user0: A better technique might have been to use find instead of rm. You can get a list of files that it will operate on, and check to see if it's correct.
12:00<jhutchins>user0: Obviously, it's best to have a backup when doing batch deletion.
12:02<user0>I know now... I was sure it'd work :-S
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12:03<jhutchins>user0: On FAT filesystems, un-delete can happen because the system simply marks the file as deleted in the FAT but retains the map of the data. As long as nothing has written to the now-available blocks in the filesystem, the whole file can be recovered.
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12:03<jhutchins>user0: Because of the way ext* filesystems work, that method doesn't exist.
12:04<user0>jhutchins: I thought so, too, because it also was written in description of testdisk; but indeed, it gave me GB of corrupted files...
12:04<user0>*feels like, didn't try them all for now*
12:05<user0>jhutchins: does it matter, which filesystem I select? ;-) *too lazy to try*
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12:06<jhutchins>user0: Well, yes, as described above FAT is easier to recover, but has other disadvantages. The only real "undelete" is to restore from a backup.
12:06<jhutchins>user0: That's what GUI systems that pretend to undelete do anyway. When you "delete" a file they make a copy that can later be restored.
12:07<user0>does it matter, which filesystem I select? in testdisk/photorec ;-) *too lazy to try*
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12:14<user0>So, is there something left to say [write]?
12:15<o11c>chattr +u exists for *some* linux filesystems, but not ext[234]
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12:24<tyng>is this meant to be under /libr? http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/libr/libreoffice/
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12:26<tyng>also what is the new/experimental queue waiting for?
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12:30<o11c>tyng: it's just a dumb prefix separator, it doesn't matter
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12:30<o11c>its sole purpose is to making "list contents of a directory" faster
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17:52<ivan>does anyone know why xserver-xorg-input-synaptics on stretch would have a very different speed/acceleration from xenial? I've compared the ubuntu patches and the debian patches and I don't think any of them touch the MinSpeed/MaxSpeed/AccelFactor
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17:52<ivan>I was thinking something might have changed in xorg input handling or in the linux synaptics driver
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18:12<casawi>ciao
18:12<annadane>is there a list of debian applications? like, in the form of here are different file managers you can use, terminals, text editors, etc
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18:12<annadane>!it
18:12<dpkg>Ciao, vai su #debian-it per ricevere aiuto in italiano. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help.
18:12<annadane>casawi, ^
18:12<casawi>plz come installare driver su debian9
18:13<casawi>nvidia
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18:13<casawi>OS: Debian 9.2 stretch
18:13<casawi> Kernel: x86_64 Linux 4.9.0-4-amd64
18:13<annadane>casawi, add contrib and non-free to your sources list - https://wiki.debian.org/SourcesList - "apt update", "apt install nvidia-driver"
18:13<casawi>CPU: Intel Core i5-6200U CPU @ 2.8GHz
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18:14<casawi>GPU: Mesa DRI Intel(R) HD Graphics 52
18:14<annadane>casawi, that's if you want the proprietary one
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18:15<casawi>annadane plz mi scrivi comanidi
18:15<annadane>casawi, i just did, see above
18:16<annadane>casawi, #debian-it, if you want
18:16<annadane>as to my question, never mind, i'll just ask in freenode
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18:18<casawi>I did not want to do that as a guide for anything that I would like to send black screen pc
18:18<annadane>casawi, but with your CPU and GPU are you certain you need nvidia?
18:18<casawi>yes
18:18<casawi>nvidia
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20:07<TacticReplication>still no windows entry :(
20:07<TacticReplication>damn
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20:14<TacticReplication>can't deny I'm getting a bit scared about my windows safety right now...
20:14<TacticReplication>I'm able to mount the partition, to browse windows directories, etc.
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20:15<TacticReplication>but still, neither os-prober nor grub-customizer refresh feature detect the windows entry
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20:17<tuxie17>I get only "Dummy Output" in sound
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20:40<TacticReplication>I added the Win7 entry from the grub-customizer (pointing on /dev/sdb1, the windows). However when I select the entry on grub, I get the BOOTMGR ABSENT error message...
20:42<TacticReplication>How could I restore the windows boot manager (to start the windows) keeping my grub
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22:32<trowate>probably a silly question but here goes: i don't have a DE installed so i boot straight to the console, also i removed "quiet" from the boot arguments. a few seconds after arriving at my "hostname login:" prompt it gets replaced with "[ x.xxxxxx] floppy0: no floppy controllers found". how can i suppress this message? ideally i don't need it at all since i have no floppy drive, but keeping it out of my tty would be nice
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22:34<tt>trowate: the quickest way is just login to vt2 or anything else, instead of 1
22:35<tt>trowate: the issue is more general than the floppy message; by default log messages of a certain level and above are routed to the "console"
22:35<tt>it is configurable, though. not sure how systemd changed that; somewhat, no doubt.
22:37<trowate>i tried fiddling with "kernel.printk" in /etc/sysctl.conf, if that's even related, but i couldn't see any difference whether i used extremes or just the default "3 4 1 3"
22:38<tt>I don't know what that is but no it's not the thing
22:38<trowate>ah haha ok
22:39<tt>well, that might be part of it, actually
22:39<trowate>re-routing messages to a different vt sounds good
22:40<tt>instead of just logging in to a different one? :)
22:42<trowate>i don't know, it feels unnatural to not start on 1 :P i like seeing all the junk scroll by
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23:04<trowate>hm, so i rebooted and ALT-F2'd and waited a couple seconds, i still get the floppy message on top of my login. so i guess it sends messages to whatever is the active tty?
23:10<o11c>trowate: tty0 is always aliased to the current VT
23:11<o11c>trowate: systemd or legacy init?
23:11<trowate>systemd
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23:16<dertefter>hi
23:16<annadane>dertefter, hi
23:17<dertefter>Who are from Russia?
23:17<o11c>!ru
23:17<dpkg>Это английскоговорящий канал, пожалуйста, говорите по-английски или посетите #debian-russian (irc.freenode.net) (Russian speakers please go to #debian-russian)
23:18<dertefter>кто из России?
23:18<dertefter>Все, кто из России, сюда #debian-russian
23:20<o11c>trowate: so it's a kernel message, not an init message ... google says `alias floppy off` in /etc/modprobe.d/ should do it
23:20<dertefter>HEY! I WANT TO TALK!
23:21<tt>o11c: it will just be some different message at some later time
23:21<annadane>dertefter, this isn't a social channel, there's #debian-offtopic for that
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23:26<Ionic>hm, now here's some interesting question: how would you emulate a full login cycle with schroot?
23:27<Ionic>I am using schroot to get into a build environment as a specific user... that part is working fine
23:29<Ionic>within the schroot environment, though, the groups vector for the respective user is not reinitialized, so I end up with the groups from the outside system
23:30<Ionic>my initial idea was to hack through this mess using sudo (specifically calling sudo -i -u $USER), but that doesn't seem to work either
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23:33<trowate>so "alias floppy off" didn't work, but "backlist floppy" at the end of /etc/modprobe.d/local.conf did it, tyvm
23:34<trowate>i'm still curious about redirecting everything to tty7 though, in case as tt said something else comes along eventually
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23:53<trowate>nice, that was as easy as a "console=tty7" boot argument in grub
23:53<trowate>thanks guys
23:54<Ionic>sounds like a bug in sudo, anyway...
23:54<Ionic>hacking PAM authentication and doing the same thing with su seems to work
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23:55<o11c>Ionic: if I want a *full* login, I use systemd-nspawn as container manager
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23:59<Ionic>well, that would be schroot replacement, mostly
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