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#debian IRC Logs for 2017-11-26

---Logopened Sun Nov 26 00:00:39 2017
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00:06<Goes09>want ask for little prob?
00:06<Goes09>can i?
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00:06<tt>!ask
00:06<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
00:07<Goes09>i have a problem the GUI cannot started when finnish installing debian please..
00:07<Goes09>i just had faces a CLI on the start
00:07<tt>are there errors? did you install a desktop environment?
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00:09<Goes09>i thougth include with one pack iso?
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00:10<Goes09>i have downloaded a Kali iso mate 2017.3 ,, then trying installed it's happening.. kali based debian too..
00:10<tt>You can choose what to install; the same installer can give you a text or graphical system.
00:11<tt>Also this channel is only for help with Debian, not Kali
00:11<Goes09>you know for kali channel?
00:11<Goes09>pleasee
00:11<annadane>!kali
00:11<dpkg>Kali Linux (http://www.kali.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on chat.freenode.net or http://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian>, and read http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html
00:13<Goes09>thx btw
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03:09<galiza>Olá
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06:54<Filystyn>HELO
06:54<Filystyn>program for audio edition
06:54<Filystyn>something with many features
06:54<Filystyn>bloated
06:54<Filystyn>ANYONE?
06:55<tt>Hello. Try asking a clear question?
06:55<tt>Audacity is an audio recording application with some editing features.
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07:07<Filystyn>tt I want BEST deatures
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07:25<abrotman>Filystyn: features that do what? Playback? recording? transoding?
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07:26<Filystyn>like slow some voice
07:27<Filystyn>or make it sound like echo
07:27<Filystyn>scary voice
07:27<Filystyn>LOL
07:27<Filystyn>hurry!
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12:59<Zion>um
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13:36<pecan>Hi!
13:36<pecan>I'm unable to receive and send e-mail on Debian 9 Stretch.
13:36<pecan>I'm using postfix and dovecot.
13:37<grawity>try to be more specific
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13:43<pecan>grawity, mail always returns No mail for root
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13:44<pecan>When I try mail -s "hello" root@localhost I'm getting Null message body; hope that's ok and again after executing mail No mail for root.
13:44<bremner>grep ^root /etc/aliases
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13:45<pecan>bremner, root: template
13:45<grawity>pecan: where did you tell postfix to deliver mail?
13:45<grawity>and where did you tell `mail` to look for mail?
13:45<bremner>pecan: so mail to root is being forwarded to "template"; sounds like it needs configuration.
13:45<grawity>those two need to match
13:45<bremner>unless template is a real user
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13:48<pecan>I'm getting http://paste.asie.pl/dCav
13:48<grawity>you told it to use procmail, but didn't install procmail
13:48<pecan>procmail is already the newest version (3.22-25+deb9u1).
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13:51<grawity>but does it provide /usr/bin/procmail-wrapper
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13:51<grawity>...in fact, what is /usr/bin/procmail-wrapper even supposed to do...
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13:56<pecan>I can't find procmail-wrapper in local repositories
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13:56<pecan>Where can I find it?
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13:59<pecan>I removed procmail-wrapper from mailbox_command
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14:00<pecan>mail is now working
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14:26<pecan>I can send mail but I can't receive it.
14:26<pecan>I've configured postfix and dovecot to use postgresql.
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14:27<tt>pecan: it's all about the logs
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14:27<tt>open log files, find failure, read and comprehend error message
14:28<tt>will usually point you directly at the problem, especially for mail delivery issues
14:29<tt>(just be aware of the red herring trap; it's common for non-fatal warning messages that sound perhaps like hard errors to be logged nearby by coincidence, and sometimes you're unlucky enough that they even sound like they *are* related.)
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14:40<boelkrug>exit
14:40<boelkrug>Anybody here?
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14:42<tomatopeel>is this a good channel to talk about mailing lists in general?
14:42<tomatopeel>ah maybe #debian-offtopic
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15:03<pecan>Reboot hangs at "reached target shutdown"
15:03<pecan>What should I do?
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15:11<blast007>pecan: what changed since it worked correctly?
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15:34<pecan>I'll check
15:34<pecan>I found following PSAD entries on my VPS in iptables: http://paste.asie.pl/5yIk
15:34<pecan>Should I worry about VPS security?
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15:38<pecan>http://paste.asie.pl/mph8
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17:57<brandonarnold>Hello, I am noticing that my sources.list is all referencing 'jessie' everywhere. Will this go on being 'jessie' until I set it to 'stretch'? Does that mean I will not be pointing at the new 'stretch' versions for my packages?
17:57<annadane>brandonarnold, correct
17:57<brandonarnold>Thanks @annadane , is it okay to find-replace jessie -> stretch everywhere?
17:58<brandonarnold>Or is that possibly going to break something
17:58<annadane>brandonarnold, sure, if you're ready to move to stretch. and then after that you'll probably want (after "apt update") to "apt upgrade" and "apt dist-upgrade"
17:58<brandonarnold>all right, good to know. Thanks much
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17:59<tt>brandonarnold: don't forget to read the release notes
17:59<tt>consider that mandatory
17:59<tt>which is pretty much the good reason why you should use names like jessie/stretch in sources.list, not stable/testing/etc.
18:00<tt>surprise upgrades are not so nice :)
18:00<brandonarnold>tt: You've got it.
18:00<annadane>or just yell at us when everything breaks, that's also fine
18:00<annadane>:P
18:01<brandonarnold>I got caught by the stretch upgrade months back, after having read a StackExchange answer with bad advice and changed all kinds of pinning preferences and sources priorities...
18:02<brandonarnold>Still kind of suffering from it but I think I'm mostly back to normal
18:02<annadane>you'll notice the release notes have sections like "how to upgrade from jessie"
18:03<annadane>really, probably the proper answer is to tell you to read the release notes rather than just blindly instruct you to apt upgrade
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18:04<brandonarnold>Yeah, will read it after yoga in a bit and do it then. Thanks for the information
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18:13<jhutchins>Yoga before an upgrade sounds like a good idea.
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18:59<fsfsdfds>hi
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19:00<annadane>fsfsdfds, hi
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19:03<fsfsdfds>my openvpn says 'cipher aes-256-gcm' initialized with 256-bit-key' and 'control channel: TLS v1.2, cipher: TLSv1/SSLv3 (...) 4096 Bit RSA'
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19:03<fsfsdfds>but wireshark just recognizes SSLv2 or SSL
19:04<fsfsdfds>how can i find out what is true? i don't even see the hellos and certificates
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19:09<fsfsdfds>i think i should see a server hello and client hello when tls is used
19:09<fsfsdfds>both negotiating which cipher to use, etc. but nothing shows up in wireshark.
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19:13<fsfsdfds>web pages using https or tor, on the other hand, is perfectly recognized as tls
19:13<fsfsdfds>*are
19:16<fsfsdfds>it dpesn't have to be wireshark though, i just want to see what is going on :-)
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19:16<fsfsdfds>ssldump, for example, also did not help
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19:20<fsfsdfds>hello annadane, i hope you are having a nice evening too.
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20:01<hadleigh>hello
20:01<hadleigh>anyone home?
20:01<hadleigh>just me
20:02<blast007>there's plenty of people here
20:03<blast007>do you have a Debian support question?
20:03<annadane>hadleigh, you're only giving people 20 seconds to answer?
20:03<hadleigh>do you know the name of program that changes my desktop?
20:03<annadane>hadleigh, in what way
20:03<hadleigh>desktop background pic
20:04<blast007>are you using Gnome?
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20:05<blast007>at least on Gnome, you can literally right click on the desktop and pick "Change Background..."
20:08<hadleigh>allgood figured it out
20:09<fsfsdfds>i like the spiral though
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20:24<Ezic>hola?
20:24<fsfsdfds>!es
20:24<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
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21:11<irene>I just installed debian and I cant get time synchronization to work
21:11<irene>It has a 1:30 timer and it goes up and then it restarts again
21:12<irene>it keeps saying that my cpu#1 is stalling
21:12<irene>any idea why that would be?
21:13<irene>oh meant to say network time synch
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