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01:07<adminewb>i'm writing a bootable linux ISO image file to a USB thumb drive using "dd" and unforeseen troubles arise, am a little out of my depth, more details to come
01:08<somiaj>state the exact dd command you wrote and what errors/trobules arose
01:09<adminewb>sudo dd if=xxx.iso of=/dev/sdc bs=16K count=117415 [that's the iso file size in 16K chunks]
01:10<somiaj>might be easier to just use cp, cp xxx.iso /dev/sdc, this way you don't ahve to worry about block count/size
01:10<adminewb>as a side note one symptom strikes me as odd, explanation may help me in diagnosis: transfer rate decays over time
01:10<adminewb>possibly somiaj, ty
01:11<adminewb>main troublesome symptom is that the last block hangs up the dd process, can't ctrl-C or kill the process from that point
01:12<adminewb>up until then, i can kill -USR1 to get regular progress to stderr
01:13<adminewb>i'd prefer not to resort to elaborate gui tools like unetbootin
01:13<adminewb>this just seems too dumb to have cryptic failures such as this
01:14<somiaj>I'm unsure what the issue would be. I would just use cp.
01:14<somiaj>with debian iso's, cp will work just fine (and is suggested), and unetbootin and other tools like that are discouraged, as they will break the debian.iso in strange ways.
01:14<adminewb>another thing, i've tried running the same dd on both a debian and lmde host, which use very different kernels
01:14<adminewb>both lock up same way on last block
01:15<adminewb>i see thanks for that somiaj
01:15<somiaj>As for your dd problem, unsure if it is something with your count size, or the blocks not lining up exactly. But I don't know the details of dd that well to have much real knowledge of what it could be.
01:15<grawity>it's not the last block which makes it hang, just the fact that dd is exiting and the kernel is flushing write buffers to the actual disk
01:15<grawity>(don't bother specifying count= here, dd will stop when it hits EOF on the .iso)
01:16<adminewb>glad to know that grawity, the write flushing
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01:16<adminewb>i was also doing a reversed dd to try to check content of the drive against iso image
01:16<adminewb>hence the matching count=
01:17<grawity>that's also (at least partially) why the rate decays – it starts with just filling up the kernel buffer, but some time later it reaches a point where the buffer is full and the kernel writes some of it to the disk and dd quickly fills up the empty space again
01:17<grawity>basically cheapo USB sticks are slow
01:17<adminewb>strangely, reading /dev/sdc given a fixed count= doesn't even read the right number of blocks
01:18<grawity>since you start at sector 0 and bs= is a large multiple of 2, alignment really should not be an issue
01:19<adminewb>incidentally it doesn't matter which thumb drive i use, they all lock up whatever kernel i try
01:19<grawity>do they lock up *the kernel*, or just the dd process?
01:19<adminewb>i'm supposing the kernel, because of the kernel messages that pop up as soon as i pull the media
01:20<grawity>no that's not why they pop up
01:20<adminewb>unfortunately i haven't got those from a log handy
01:20<grawity>they pop up because the kernel was in the middle of doing a write, and you pulled the disk
01:20<adminewb>right
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01:21<grawity>I wonder what's a good tool to look inside the kernel buffers
01:21<adminewb>the kernel continues servicing other aspects of the system though
01:21<grawity>maybe iotop or slabtop or just the "buffers" meter in htop
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01:22<grawity>either way, sounds like the writes just take a while
01:22<adminewb>hmm
01:22<grawity>how long does dd'ing the entire image usually take?
01:22<grawity>that is, if you wait until it "unhangs"
01:22<grawity>15 minutes? an hour? a day?
01:22<grawity>forever?
01:22<adminewb>to read it from the flash drive, not long
01:23<adminewb>to write it, i've not got one to complete yet
01:23<grawity>you can try oflag=direct or oflag=dsync, I don't know what they do but some of them should result in less-buffered writes
01:23<adminewb>the image is not quite 2GiB either
01:23<grawity>with status=progress, I guess
01:23<grawity>are the usb sticks USB3 or "regular"?
01:23<adminewb>regular, USB2 i think
01:24<adminewb>i've waited about 10min for a write to complete, and that just seems way too long for 2G
01:26<adminewb>i appreciate all the feedback, this clarifies things to where i can diagnose better
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01:31<somiaj>usb2 is kinda slow write speed, 2gigs can take a bit of time.
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01:48<smhar>greetigs
01:50<smhar>I have a debian host system and a debian virtualbox client. The host connects to he net in different ways: sometimes using the wifi and sometimes using a usb net adapter.. how can I setup the client so that it can connect to the hosts network and still have a fixed IP I can connect to?
01:51<grawity>different connections to the *same* net?
01:52<awal1>that is a vbox concern
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01:52<grawity>and is the client VM bridged or NATed?
01:54<awal1>latest vbox releases, I think bridged won't work / not supported anymore
01:54<awal1>at least mine
01:55<grawity>maybe not on debian, but it definitely works in general
01:57<awal1>bridge worked under wheezy & jessie. not since stretch
01:59<jm_>really? glad I haven't upgraded to stretch yet then :)
01:59<awal1>previously enabling bridge I can connect the host to wifi A and guest to wifi B, now it won't work. networking just don't show up in the guest if bridge
01:59<awal1>nat still woring fine
01:59<grawity>wi-fi in guests? that definitely doesn't sound like bridge mode
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02:01<awal1>it is, well, that is my understanding following vbox docs and support; I was able to do that via "bridge networking"
02:01<grawity>unless you're describing a different thing
02:02<grawity>the network cards virtualbox emulates are all wired ethernet
02:02<grawity>i'd be surprised if they suddenly sprung the ability to show wi-fi networks
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02:03<awal1>I know what bridge is, but since I was achieving that via "bridge networking " vbox feature,disabling nat, so it is bridge
02:04<awal1>well, I am not good on such stuff, I just know I connect my debian host to wired and kali to my second internet provided, via wifi
02:04<smhar>grawity, the host has only wifi and usb. I sometimes connet to net using whatever available. I want the client to have internet whenever the host has one. but I want the client to always have a fixed IP that I can connect to
02:04<awal1>provider
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02:04<smhar>the client is a LAMP system that hosts my development environment
02:05<grawity>awal1: now you're talking about a different thing
02:05<grawity>first it was two wi-fi networks, now it's separate wired and wi-fi
02:05<awal1>grawity, well, I also conenct my debian host to my own wifi
02:06<grawity>"I connect my debian host to wired" that's not wifi...
02:06<grawity>smhar: do you want to connect from the host, or from elsewhere on the net?
02:07<smhar>grawity, " The host connects to he net in different ways: sometimes using the wifi and sometimes using a usb net adapter"
02:07<grawity>smhar: that's not what I asked though...
02:07<awal1>anyway, not a bridge expert but one thing is sure I can conenct my debian to wired and or to wifi and the guest (kali in that time) to same wifi as debian host or to another wifi (school one)
02:07<smhar>The host has no problem. it can connect using dhcp.. the problem is with the client
02:08<smhar>I want to client to be able to see and connect to the net whenever it is available
02:08<awal1>all that choosing bridge in network section, and not nat or something else. details? not sure :P
02:08<smhar>I do not care if the client can connect directly or through the Host.. although through the host is preferred
02:09<smhar>and I want the client to have an IP fixed so that I can access it through the hosts browser
02:10<grawity>smhar: use host-only networking, enable IP routing (forwarding) on the host, and set up masquerading on the host's iptables/nft
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04:15<kengne>salut
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04:17<ivan>is there a tinier debian netinst that pulls down the rest of the image from somewhere and verifies it?
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04:26<jm_>Debian used to provide business card CD images, but that's no longer the case, so I don't think there's anything smaller (short of netboot variants etc.)
04:26<grawity>install over iPXE?
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04:50<ivan>jm_: thanks
04:51<ivan>iPXE would be more of a hassle than simply waiting for an iso to upload over iLO this one time
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05:11<elof_>I followed Razer's instruction, but fail to install their driver.
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05:13<hadleigh>hello little help got parrot o/s and can not get my printer going
05:14<grove>!parrot
05:14<dpkg>Parrot OS (https://www.parrotsec.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution. It is based on Debian testing, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #parrot on irc.frozenbox.org or try the mailing lists at http://lists.parrotsec.org/listinfo. Also ask me about <based on debian>.
05:14<elof_>My installation https://pastebin.com/Yd9bWGEs
05:14<hadleigh>yeah debian
05:15<hadleigh>elof said page no longer there
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05:16<elof_>hadleigh: the package has been deleted?
05:16<hadleigh>fist time using printer since installing the other day plug printer in and nothing
05:17<hadleigh>computer is updating atm
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05:18<elof_>My Razer Abyssus has right-click problem on Debian.
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05:59<abraxxa>I'm trying to install Debian 9.2.1 on a Dell R640 and the RAID 0 volume from the PERC H740P RAID controller isn't detected
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06:22<ivan>how do I go from a netinst ash shell to a working debootstrap?
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06:25<jm_>what do you mean?
06:26<ivan>I mean, udpkg/dpkg my way to a working debootstrap command
06:26<ivan>is this even a sane thing to be doing with netinst, or should I get a bigger iso?
06:28<jm_>I think I never tried it from d-i
06:28<ivan>alright I think I just want everything to be a live cd and keep getting surprised netinst has almost nothing
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06:30<jm_>yeah netinst is rather minimal, grml-small would be a better choice for this I suppose
06:30<ivan>thanks that looks useful
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07:05<ivan>grml failed to boot because systemd timed out starting systemd-logind after 90 seconds because the iso was being read over an ADSL link
07:06<ivan>(heh)
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07:14<jm_>hah
07:14<jm_>maybe try its read entire image to ram option
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07:25<ivan>jm_: ah, yeah, I noticed that in the boot options but forgot about it, thanks
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08:32<webmind>goodday, I'm trying to install debian stretch on a sourkis net6501, from usb. Got a serial cable. But as soon as the iso linux line has been printed, my screens screws up. Terminal(picocom or minicom) set to 9600n8. anyone got an idea what it can be?
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08:36<blast007>are you passing extra boot options?
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08:36<webmind>nope
08:36<blast007>https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch05s03.html.en#boot-console
08:36<webmind>default i386 netboo iso, dd'ed to a usb stick
08:38<webmind>but where would I type/set this
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08:38<webmind>if I just press enter a few times I get this: Undefined video mode number: 314
08:38<webmind>Press <ENTER> to see video modes available, <SPACE> to continue, or wait 30 sec
08:38<blast007>do you see the initial menu from the ISO?
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08:39<webmind>no
08:39<webmind>just garbled characters, all on one virtual line
08:40<webmind>https://pastebin.com/r3Vepfbj
08:43<blast007>so as soon as you boot to the USB, you get that? nothing before that?
08:43<grove>webmind: Have you tried setting the terminal to different speeds?
08:44<webmind>yes, just makes it worse
08:44<webmind>this rate is the only one where the characters themselves properly display
08:44<webmind>blast007: I get the iso linux line
08:45<webmind>ISOLINUX 6.03 20170128 EHDD Copyright (C) 1994-2014 H. Peter Anvin et al
08:45<webmind>and before that the soekris bios
08:45<blast007>and then it goes to the contents of the pastebin above?
08:45<webmind>yes
08:45<webmind>wel, it changes some characters
08:45<blast007>hrm
08:45<webmind>at some point you can make out debi from top to bottom
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10:41<debneb>Hi there, I found something maybe interesting when purging the current version of skypeforlinux from my oldstable debian jessie. The not-open-source package for skype automatically adds a repo for skype. After purging
10:42<debneb>and another apt-get update the repo.skype is still done, though I cant find it in the sources.list
10:43<petn-randall>debneb: It's probably in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*.
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10:44<debneb>Ok, I checked, but why does it use both?
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10:44<debneb>should I remove the file "skype-stable.list" inside of sources.list.d/* or should I delete its content?
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10:58<Iridos>you can delete the whole file if you don't want the repo… or comment the repo-line with # if you might want to re-enable it in the future
10:58<Iridos>having an empty file lying around probably doesn't make much sense either way
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11:30<nefarious>Hello
11:31<nefarious>hello pavlushka
11:33<annadane>nefarious, hi, do you have a debian support question?
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11:35<resinder>hello
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11:36<annadane>hi resinder
11:36<resinder>i am newbie <3
11:36<ray>Hi I just istalled strech on a dell 1501 laptop and have a problem with the display on boot up
11:36<resinder>and noob
11:37<resinder>startx ?
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11:38<PC>hola
11:38<ray>I get colored lines on booting and starting x, after the screen times out I can hit enter and see the login page for my userid
11:39<annadane>!es
11:39<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
11:39<annadane>PC, ^
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11:43<ray>Is this the correct channel to get help with the display issue?
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11:45<petn-randall>ray: The graphical login?
11:45<ray>Yes the graphical login.
11:45<petn-randall>ray: Is that model a very new one? And what GPU chipset does it have?
11:46<ray>It is an old model, where can I find the GPU info
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11:47<petn-randall>ray: run 'lspci -nn' as root, there should be a line with "VGA compatible controller" or similar.
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11:47<ray>petn: ! minute
11:48<petn-randall>ray: petn<tab>
11:50<ray>petn-randall: VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RS482M [Mobility Radeon Xpress 200] [1002:5975]
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11:51<petn-randall>ray: Can you log in and use your computer normally after that?
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11:52<ray>petn-randall: seems to be normal after first screen time out. I am using it now.
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11:52<petn-randall>ray: I see, then it's just a problem of the initialization during boot, and nothing more permanent.
11:52<petn-randall>(meaning it might be easier to fix!)
11:53<ray>petn-randall: I need help to fix it, it is a pain as it is. Thanks for your help.
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11:54<petn-randall>ray: I'd take a look at the log files in /var/log/kern.log and syslog to check if there are any weird messages regarding graphics.
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11:56<petn-randall>ray: Does it look like it switches resolutions between boot and the login screen?
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12:02<ray>petn: kern.log looks fine, I can not tell about switching resolutio.
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12:06<ray>petn: syslog shows failure for radeon firmware.
12:07<petn-randall>ray: Type "petn" followed by a tab. "petn" alone doesn't highlight me and I might miss the message since I'm in 30+ channels.
12:07<petn-randall>ray: Ah, we're getting closer!
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12:08<petn-randall>ray: Do you have 'firmware-amd-graphics' installed?
12:08<ray>patn ok will use the tab key sorry
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12:08<petn-randall>ray: Most IRC client auto-complete the name if you press tab.
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12:10<ray>petn-randall: this (Polari) does not auto complete
12:11<petn-randall>ray: Oh, that's unfortunate. Nevermind then for now.
12:13<ray>petn-randall: I do not get 'firmware-amd-graphics' installed in syslog
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12:22<di0x>hmm thats unfortunate too :-(
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12:28<petn-randall>ray: Not in syslog. Try to install it with 'apt install firmware-amd-graphics' as root.
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12:45<ray>petn-randall: I have just done the install and will have to reboot to see if that fixes the problem. Thanks again and I will have an answer shortly.
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13:23<nmschulte>tt: using different SATA interface (PCI/e; non-USB) resolved my drive access issue, FYI.
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13:48<tt>word. I had a feeling :)
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13:59<petn-randall>zZander56: Do you have a Debian support question?
13:59<zZander56>no
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14:13<zZander56>Know of any good RSS feeds?
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14:16<annadane>zZander56, more a question for #debian-offtopic
14:16<zZander56>ah. sorry
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16:00<Susan>Hi, our customer scanners found high vulnerabilities on their Debian system. For example their scanner found the vulnerability issue from CVE-2016-10010. Are we able to just install a patch to address the specific CVE issue? Or we have upgrade Debian to a new release? Thanks
16:02<somiaj>Susan: what version of debian? Have you checked the security tracker for that cve?
16:03<somiaj>https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2016-10010
16:04<somiaj>Susan: you can make your own pacthced package if you want, and might be the best thing to do. You can look at the bug report and other stuff to see if the security team plans to backport this to jessie, or the lts team to wheezy. But if you are able to patch it yourself, you acn do so.
16:05<Susan>The security tracker is https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2016-10010 . I have to check their Debian version. But I believe their Debian doesn't have the version to fix the CVE-2016-10010. The fix is in Jessie 1:6.7p1-5+deb8u3. Should we just install the version 1:6.7p1-5+deb8u3 or we should install a latest version? Thanks
16:05<somiaj>Susan: might depend on use case, but it looks like you will have to build a package if you want to fix this in jessie.
16:06<somiaj>ideally you would patch the vunlability in the jessie package and keep running that. But it could be this patch is going to take some work to get into the jessie version. You could backport a newer version from stretch, but then you will be changing your openssh version
16:08<somiaj>according the the bug report, it appears the security team decided to not patch the jessie version for this issue (it could be a minor issue that only affects rare usecase) I'm not sure on the details as to why they patched the stretch version (it was testing at the time) but not the jessie version.
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16:10<somiaj>Susan: Note, the cve bug states the following, "When privilege separation is not used, then ....", but the note says "Privilege separation is enabled in the Debian package", so it appears that the bug may not affect jessie, despite it is saying vuln (mostly because by default privilege separation is enabled and the bug only affects when it is disabled)
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16:12<Susan>somiaj, thanks for these information. So we can't patch the vunlability in the jessie package. If we backport a newer version from stretch that means we just run "apt-get update && apt-get -V upgrade "?
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16:13<somiaj>Susan: I would do nothing in this case, but yes, that is your option if you need something patched that debian doens't. Either patch the package yoruself, or backport a newer version. In either cases you now have to maintain such packages, so I would only do this if there was no other way around the issue.
16:13<somiaj>!tell Susan about ssb
16:14<somiaj>Susan: in case you are intersted, the bot gave you some basic instrcutions to build a backport. In this case you are backporint from stretch -> jessie, so you'll have to adjust, but the process is the same.
16:15<somiaj>If the info on the tracker is wrong, and the vunl affects jessie with privlage seperation enabled, then I would update the bug report. But from the info I see, jessie is safe from this (by default -- you would have to turn privlage speration off for it to be affected)
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16:19<Susan>Somiaj, thanks. That would be great if I have basic instructions to either patch the package myself, or backport a newer version.
16:19<somiaj>check what the bot sent you, or look up 'simple sid backport' in google which should give you a debian wiki page.
16:19<somiaj>again I would not worry about fixing this, from the info the tracker gives it should'nt be an issue.
16:20<somiaj>(once you backport a package, you then are repsonsiable to keep it upto date and fix any new security issues that arise)
16:20<somiaj>(though if you are disabling privlage seperation on you systems, then yes I would say fix it)
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16:22<musca>,checkbackport openssh-server --fromrelease stretch --torelease jessie
16:22<judd>Backporting package openssh-server in stretch→jessie/amd64: all build-dependencies satisfied using jessie.
16:25<blast007>Susan: to clarify, backporting does not mean simply installing the binary from a newer release into jessie. It means getting the Debian source package from a newer release and building it against jessie.
16:25<Susan>Somiaj, thanks.
16:25<blast007>likely the scanner is looking at nothing more than the version number to determine if the vulnerability could exist
16:26<somiaj>Susan: usually there is a good reason the debian security team decided to not backport the fix to jessie. The the tracker can help clarify the reasoning.
16:26<Susan>blast007, thanks for your clarification. Then backporting is not what we want to do. It is a little bit complicated. We want to run update/upgrade to have a new version of Debian to cover the security issues.
16:27<somiaj>Susan: are you disabling privlage speration in ssh?
16:27<Susan>somiaj, that makes sense. If Debian security team decided to not backport the fix, then we will not do it either
16:28<somiaj>Susan: thought it might be nice to know why they decided to, and it is because it doesn't affect debian's deafault use case, which is to have privlage seperation enabled. If you have a special use case that disables it, then I would worry about this, otherwise I would not.
16:29<somiaj>and lots of time checkers don't go that deep, they may check the debian tracker which returns 'vulnerable', but one would have to disable privlage seperation on their system (as root) to actually be vunlarable.
16:29<Susan>somiaj, that makes sense. We will probably just have privlage seperation enabled
16:29<somiaj>well unless you changed it, you have no choice in debian.
16:30<somiaj>so you may want to double check that it hasn't been disabled (which I think is very unlikely)
16:30<awal1>1 doubt about backports since I have never used them: once the desired backport repo added, say stretch-backports, and the desired pkg installed ( ap... -t stretch-backports install foo) the backports repo should be disabled or removed or kept enabled for future upgrade of the backported pkg installed?
16:30<awal1>I guess it should be kept for future upgrades
16:30<somiaj>awal1: backports are pinned such that they will never be installed unless you explicity ask them to (adding the -t stretch-backports)
16:30<Susan>somiaj, I don't think they change it.
16:31<awal1>somiaj, I know but what about the repo?
16:31<somiaj>but once you hvae installed something from backports, it will upgrade it as newer versions become available in backports.
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16:31<blast007>awal1: you'd want to keep it
16:31<awal1>blast007, ok
16:31<somiaj>awal1: the repo is pinned such that you can have it there safely and not need to remove it. The repo really does nothing (until you explicity say to install stuff from it with the -t flag)
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16:32<awal1>ok, somiaj
16:32<somiaj>also be very careful, that -t flag is dangerous. Never use it in an upgrade, and for safty it is always best to a) install the stretch version, b) upgrade to the stretc-backports version.
16:32<somiaj>installing the stretch-backports version right away could install depends on backports you may not want.
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16:33<pilastebill>hi
16:34<retrospectacus>hi
16:34<awal1>if I wanted to just upgrade that pkg from backports and not others?
16:35<awal1>not others = nothing , jessie pkgs included
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16:35<awal1>just trying to understand; not planing to use any backports for now
16:35<somiaj>awal1: clarify what you mean? You can always upgrade a single package by running just an apt install foo line (with -t stretch-backports to get it from backports)
16:36<somiaj>note this will upgrade/install any depends that you are missing, which is why I said it is safest to install the stretch version, then upgrade to stretch-backports, just so you don't have dependencies pulled in from stretch-backports.
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16:37<somiaj>pinning mostly works for backports, but there are some strange issues due to how pinning works around backports that make it a bit overcomplicated.
16:37<awal1>somiaj, ah, sorry, right; I forgot that apt install an already installed pkg will make apt get the new version
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16:38<somiaj>because when you add the -t stretch-backports it jumps the pinning up to 990, so doing that operation stretch-backports will be prefered for everything.
16:39<awal1>ya, got it now, thanks
16:39<awal1>I just run unstable since 3 years; got used
16:40<somiaj>I think for backports to work better a newer system than pinning needs to be introduced, but pinning deals with most things, so it is what we got.
16:40<somiaj>(well to avoid some os the issues that arise with using backports and pinning)
16:41<awal1>I think now backports are official
16:42<somiaj>they are, I was just saynig the pinning system doesn't fully work like it should when dealing with how apt resolves dependencies and upgrades with backports in the picture.
16:42<somiaj>well like I think it should..
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16:43<awal1>once I tested a newer kernel from backports under wheezy (newer from jessie) and I got a broken system; since then I haven't tried :D
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19:16<wakemaster>hello all, I am using debian buster and doing a virtualisation setup using qemu. I recently did a update and restarted my computer and since then I am unable to launch any VM that uses hugepages as a backing store
19:17<wakemaster>I am getting errors about not being able to open the backing store Permission denied. No configuration was changed other than doing an update on the packages. Anyone around have ideas on pointing me in the right direction
19:19<blast007>testing/unstable support is in #debian-next
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20:14<csmall>Is secure boot supported in unstable or experimental?
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20:38<rjsalts>csmall: I don't believe so
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21:24<elof_>how do I restore apt update process when I had given a command like echo 'deb http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/hardware:/razer/Debian_9.0/ /' > /etc/apt/sources.list.d/openrazer-meta.list
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21:29<elof_>Is there anyone?
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21:31<blast007>what do you mean by "restore apt update process"?
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21:47<elof_>blast007: update without http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/hardware:/razer/Debian_9.0/
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21:58<elof_>blast007:
21:58<blast007>elof_: if you mean you don't want to pull packages from that third party repository, you can just delete that openrazer-meta.list file you created
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21:59<elof_>blast007: Where is the file
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22:00<blast007>/etc/apt/sources.list.d/openrazer-meta.list
22:01<blast007>this might be worth a read for you as well
22:01<blast007>!don't break debian
22:01<dpkg>rumour has it, dont break debian is https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian
22:01<elof_>thank you
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22:42<a2ysm>anyone here ?
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22:44<dvs>nope
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23:23<Ankit>Hey
23:23<Ankit>Anyone here?
23:26<annadane>yes
23:26<annadane>!ask
23:26<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
23:26<annadane>Ankit, ^
23:26<elof_>!ask
23:26<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
23:26<elof_>oh
23:27<elof_>!dpkg sources.list
23:27<dpkg>A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for "Stretch" has three lines: "deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ stretch main" "deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security stretch/updates main" "deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ stretch-updates main". Be sure to run «apt update» after editing sources.list. Also see <deb-src> <contrib> <non-free> <stretch/updates> <stretch-updates> <mirrors> and "man sources.list".
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23:31<elof_>how many ! commands in this channel? annadane
23:31<annadane>a lot. don't test all of them
23:31<annadane>also, not a support question
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23:45<somiaj>elof_: http://ircbots.debian.net/factoids/ -- if you awnt to search the factoids. You can view them there, you can also /msg the bot. https://wiki.debian.org/IRC/DpkgBot
23:46<somiaj>you can also download the database if you awnt it, debian is open afterall
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23:48<elof_>How do I make grub detect my FreeBSd on the 2nd hdd?
23:50<elof_>or I can only config bios to boot on the 2nd hdd>
23:50<elof_>?
23:50<somiaj>installing os-prober might be enough.
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23:52<elof_>somiaj: os-prober is installed.
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23:53<elof_>Some youtubers edit the 40_custom, but it is not useful for me.
23:54<somiaj>there are ways to manually add entries
23:54<elof_>somiaj: to make grub detec the os on 2nd hdd?
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23:57<somiaj>more tell grub to boot from teh second drive and give it the info it needs
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