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#debian IRC Logs for 2017-12-15

---Logopened Fri Dec 15 00:00:06 2017
00:01-!-xx2 [~zz2@176.10.99.196] has joined #debian
00:01-!-xx2 is "xx2" on #tor #debian #tor-offtopic #oftc
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00:12-!-sidmo is "sidmo" on #debian-systemd #debian-next #debian-offtopic #debian-kde #debian
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00:29-!-chatpla is "chatpla" on #privacytech #privacytools.io #debian #tor #oftc
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00:46-!-jm_ is "." on #debian #debian-ops
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00:47-!-rgd547p is "Your Name" on #debian #smuxi
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00:51-!-HIKKE is "purple" on #debian #msys2
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00:53-!-benages is "Juanjo Benages,,," on #debian-next #debian-es #debian
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01:00-!-alanz is "Your Name" on #debian #smuxi
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01:14-!-marcus is "Marcus Lundblad" on #debian #osm.se-spam #OSM.se #debian-gnome
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01:14-!-kowalski_g is "Gabriel Kowalski" on #debian
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01:17-!-marcus_ is "Marcus Lundblad" on #debian #osm.se-spam #OSM.se #debian-gnome
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01:25-!-ttelford is "Troy Telford" on #debian-voip #debian-systemd #debian-next #debian-ipv6 #debian
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01:45-!-mingyang is "OFTC WebIRC Client" on #debian
01:45<mingyang>HI
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01:54-!-daeda is "daeda" on #privacytech #privacytools.io #debian #tor #oftc
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02:03-!-shawnlandden is "Shawn Landden" on #kernelnewbies #debian-mentors #debian-arm #debian
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02:05-!-zeromon is "zeromon" on #debian-next #debian-kde #debian
02:05<mingyang>哈哈
02:05-!-annadane [~annadane@mtrlpq5302w-lp140-01-69-156-34-138.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #debian
02:05-!-annadane is "realname" on #debian-mirrors #tor-project #tor-offtopic #tor #privacytech #debian-www #debian-offtopic #debian-next #debian-mentors #debian-kde #debian-bugs #debian-apt #debian
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02:06<jm_>!cn
02:06<dpkg>如果您想要以中文得到 Debian 相關的協助,請加入 irc.debian.org 或 irc.oftc.net 上的 #dot 頻道,連線與加入頻道的方法請參閱 IRC 程式之相關說明,或於網路上搜尋。謝謝您的合作!
02:07<jm_>or if you want use english here
02:09-!-kowalski_g [~kowalski_@2001:67c:710:2:a269:5d44:1eb7:43a2] has joined #debian
02:09-!-kowalski_g is "Gabriel Kowalski" on #debian
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02:11-!-ansel` is "Andreas Seltenreich" on #debian
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02:17-!-debalance is "Philipp Huebner" on #debian #debian-qa #debian-kde #debian-devel-changes
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05:10<gpconf>Okay... so I found that the debian version of a package currently has a bug. That bug has been fixed by a patch. It´s about https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1690387.
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05:11<gpconf>Package is ´horizon´. Now I can find the files and manually edit each of them with a console text editor to basically fix-it-myself as it is python code but this will kind of break things. Are there any nice instructions on how to properly apply this to a live installation?
05:12<gpconf>Preferrably without having to download 150 megabytes of horizon git code and gigabytes of dependancies?
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05:53<chele>how do i find out where is /usr/bin/python2 link set? i have installed python2.7 but link is missing somehow...
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05:57<jm_>~$ dpkg -S /usr/bin/python2
05:58<jm_>python-minimal: /usr/bin/python2
05:59<jm_>chele ^^^^
06:00<chele>jm_ thanks. hm i think i did that already but i guess it missed it..
06:00<chele>I*
06:00<jm_>no problem
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06:31<gpconf>... why are these patch tools such a royal pain to work with? Seriously... I got 500+ megabytes of downloaded packages... I want to change 5 lines of python code. It is not even compiled???
06:33<jm_>are you sure 500MB size is not due to build dependencies, not patch related?
06:33<gpconf>Yeah it is build dependencies
06:34<gpconf>I think someone overdid them. There is no way chromium would be necessary, or the drm libs for the various graphics drivers
06:34<gpconf>Just put everything and the kitchen sink in there.
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06:35<gpconf>Anyway... this package is apparently complicated enough that it breaks debian package tools in some way.
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06:36<gpconf>The bug is pretty simple. Debian supplies django 1.10, horizon 10 was built for 1.8. There is a breaking change, where .render(context) needs to be replaced with render(extra_context, request)
06:37<gpconf>Someone wrote a patch, but missed various points in the code so various things (like deleting things) still result in CSRF token errors.
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06:37<gpconf>So another person wrote another patch, and the debian devs have missed this. It´s now 6 months old, but has not been backported. Directly translating from base64 patch source and applying with quilt wont work as the patch is written against Pike, not Newton release.
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07:14<ivan>this is kind of awful but in rare cases I patch things without building fixed packages
07:14<ivan>it won't prevent dpkg from upgrading or removing the thing but it will make dpkg --verify make you think you were _hacked_ until you remember you did it yourself
07:15<ivan>the other awful option is to take the deb and repack it with fixed contents instead of building it properly
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07:32<judd>Package: python-django on amd64 -- wheezy: 1.4.5-1+deb7u16; wheezy-security: 1.4.22-1+deb7u3; wheezy-backports: 1.7.1-1~bpo70+1; jessie: 1.7.11-1+deb8u2; jessie-security: 1.7.11-1+deb8u2; jessie-backports: 1.8.18-1~bpo8+1; stretch: 1:1.10.7-2; stretch-backports: 1:1.11.7-1~bpo9+1; buster: 1:1.11.7-1; sid: 1:1.11.7-1
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07:33<petn-randall>gpconf: What not just deploy django 1.8 instead of hacking django 1.10 to work?
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07:38<jonny>Hello everybody, where is firefox .exe held usually?
07:38<jonny>firefox-esr?
07:38<jonny>i want to replace icon of blue earth with firefox emblem exe thanks :D
07:38<tt>is checkinstall still a thing ?
07:39<jonny>dunno
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07:39<jonny>tt: you know where firefox-esr is installed?
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07:52<ivan>jonny: dpkg -L firefox-esr
07:52<jonny>ivan: cheers ivan
07:55<jm_>or in shell type 'echo =firefox' or 'which firefox' or 'type firefox' or ... depending on your shell
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07:57<petn-randall>jonny: Note that .exe files are a windows thing, you won't find any under Linux.
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07:58<jonny>petn-randall: I suspected that haha. What are they on Linux? Thanks
07:59<petn-randall>jonny: executables. They're flagged as such via the executable bit, which you can see with 'ls -l <file>'. If there's an x in the permissions, it's executable for that user.
08:00<jonny>petn-randall: oh ok, cheers petn.
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08:52<blast007>petn-randall: well, .exe's can run on Linux if they're a .NET/mono application. There's even a few packages (related to hosting ASP.NET web applications) that include .exe files. :)
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09:18<deka>Hi, I got really high cpu usage the background)by 'kworker' on my laptop even after a fresh install of debian stable. (Note: I use encrypted LVM for debian)
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09:32<Brigo>deka, i found this link: https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/high-cpu-usage-by-kworker-4175563563/
09:34<gpconf>I got a better resolution for my problems: use the ´testing´ version instead.
09:34<gpconf>Or just use the CLI for the broken functions.
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09:39<Someonz>When I shut down the pc it hangs at "unmounting crypto filesistems"
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09:45<ChinaGenius>hello
09:45<ChinaGenius>where are they
09:45<ChinaGenius>??
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09:49<petn-randall>ChinaGenius: Who are they?
09:49<ChinaGenius>what
09:50<petn-randall>ChinaGenius: Do you have a Debian support question?
09:50<ChinaGenius>no
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09:52<ChinaGenius>what are you doing now
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09:52<blast007>!chat
09:52<dpkg>This is not a chat channel, this is a Debian user support channel. Unless you have a Debian support question, please chat elsewhere, like #debian-offtopic, or #moocows on irc.oftc.net or ##chat on irc.freenode.net.
09:52<petn-randall>ChinaGenius: See /topic. This is a Debian support channel. If you're looking for something specific, let us know, and we can direct you to the right channel.
09:52<ChinaGenius>ok
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10:37<Someonz>Like I said, when I shut down the pc it hangs at "unmounting crypto filesistems"
10:38<Someonz>Why? There isn't a process who seem to block this
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10:50<ivan>the systemd debug shell might help with diagnosing that
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10:53<jhutchins_wk>Someonz: Is this a new development on a system that was shutting down cleanly, or is this the first shutdown since you built it?
10:53<Someonz>jhutchins_wk, I added encrypted swap
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11:33<Someonz>I have a TP-LINK usb adapter, but my system doesn't appear to see it, what should I do?
11:33<Someonz>*wireless usb adapter
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11:34<Brigo>Someonz, the usual culprit is the firmware
11:35<Brigo>the lack of if in debian without non-free enabled.
11:35<Brigo>s/if/it/
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11:42<Someonz>Brigo, I have firmware-linux-nonfree installed
11:42<hexa->if I need a newer release of a software in sid/testing, should I file a bug against the package?
11:43<somiaj>Someonz: that won't help with wifi, wifi usually has seprate firmware packages
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11:43<somiaj>you would have to identify the chipset, and install the firmware for that chipset of family, such as firmware-realtek, or whatever actual chipset family you have.
11:44<somiaj>hexa-: you could file a wishlist bug, but I bet if you goto tracker.debian.org/packagename, you'll see the watch file already says there is a newer version available, and just have to wait for the matainer to have time to package the newer version.
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11:44<somiaj>filing a wishlist bug maynot actually help speed this up, but that is the bug that could be filed.
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11:46<hexa->somiaj: it does say that, yes. the new version has been released on 2016/12/06, and the package was last updated in 2016/02 and missed a minor update as welll
11:47<somiaj>matainers volunteer their time and sometimes real life gets in their way. But as long as the package has a matainer (is not orphaned) you basically need to wait until the matainer gets around, unless you want to do the work to create a new package
11:47<somiaj>also sid questions should move to #debian-next
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12:02<Someonz>somiaj the wifi usb adapter should be inserted after booting debian? Or it can work in plug-n-play? It's a TP LINK TL-WN823N
12:03<somiaj>it shoudln't matter, udev should load the corresponding module, which then loads the corresponding firmware when it is deteceted, either at boot time or when you plug it in.
12:04<somiaj>That is also not the chipset, at least doesn't look like one to me. Best to figure out the actual wifi chipset with lsusb and install the correct firmware. dmesg | grep firmware could also tell you what firmware it is looking for and if it loaded it or not
12:05<computing-land>or `apt-cache search XXX` with the XXX being model output by lsusb
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12:18<computing-land>BTW
12:18<computing-land>I never did a bug report in my life
12:18<computing-land>and I can't seem to find a result through web search for it
12:19<computing-land>could anyone using GNOME confirm the bug?
12:19<computing-land>if you use gedit and try to Ctrl+MouseWheel to zoom out
12:19<somiaj>!reportbug
12:19<dpkg>reportbug is used to submit bugs to the Debian <BTS>. Install reportbug, then run reportbug. See http://www.debian.org/Bugs/ http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch05s04#problem-report for some general information about using reportbug and/or for <debian-installer> bug reporting. Also ask me about <report-bugs>. http://wiki.debian.org/reportbug http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting, or <reportbug MTA>
12:20<somiaj>computing-land: does this bug affect stable or unstable?
12:20<computing-land>stable!
12:20<computing-land>zoom out in gedit works ok, but
12:20<computing-land>zoom in does... zoom out !!! (if your gnome global scale factor differs from default value 1.00)
12:20<somiaj>stable is frozen, and it doesn't sound like a rc bug, you should still report it as it may affect testing/unstable, but I doubt it will get much attention (if any) in stable.
12:21<computing-land>oh
12:21<computing-land>cause I use the gedit zoom a lot ^^
12:21<computing-land>and I use heavily scale factor
12:21<computing-land>(depending on the distance form my screen where I sit)
12:21<somiaj>sure, but debian stable is a frozen system, not a bug free one. Also this sounds like something that should almost be reported upstream to gnome.
12:21<computing-land>* from
12:21<computing-land>oh you think I should rather report upstream?
12:21<somiaj>this is something that maybe fixed (if there is a bug report) in a future release.
12:22<computing-land>(yeah, I know stable is frozen unfortunately ---___---)
12:22<somiaj>it sounds more like a gnome bug, not a bug introduced in debian's package. Though if you report it to debian, the matainer hsould forward it upstream.
12:23<somiaj>kinda depends on upstream. I would report the bug, just saying it most likely won't be fixed in stable as it sounds minor or normal to a paticular use case.
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12:23<computing-land>I'm just astonished, I must be one of the very very few people that change the default gnome scale factor :/
12:24<somiaj>computing-land: maybe, it could have also already been fixed upstream. But one would have to test a newer version of gnome to see if it is still there.
12:24<somiaj>though it won't get any attention if it is not reported, so I would report it, I was just trying to provide some realistic expecations on it being fixed in stable.
12:24<computing-land>maybe I'll try to reproduce it in a sid lxc container
12:25<computing-land>to see if it's worth mentioning the bug in the first place… or not
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14:30<Caaruzo>greetings, ive got a little problem and hope someone could help me. in case of my WOL didnt worked i reinstalled debian stretch and also installed drivers for my lan and vga. since ive done systemctl hibernate wont work anymore. it seems to stuck on running /usr/sbin/s2disk ... the system wont powerdown fans and light running etc. Might someone could help me fix this pls? that would be great
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14:37<Caaruzo>greetings, ive got a little problem and hope someone could help me. in case of my WOL didnt worked i reinstalled debian stretch and also installed drivers for my lan and vga. since ive done systemctl hibernate wont work anymore. it seems to stuck on running /usr/sbin/s2disk ... the system wont powerdown fans and light running etc. Might someone could help me fix this pls? that would be great
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14:39<Brigo>how do you install the lan and vga drivers?
14:39<Caaruzo>apt-get install. ive added non-free repository
14:40<Brigo>what drivers are those?
14:41<jhutchins_wk>Caaruzo: Is your swap partition larger than your RAM?
14:41<Caaruzo>ive installed llvm 3.9, clang 3.9 with firmware-linux. for lan ive installed r8168
14:42<Caaruzo>how do i check the swap size?
14:42<jhutchins_wk>somiaj: Upsream people tend to take bugs a lot more seriously if they're reported or relayed by the maintainer than an end user.
14:42<jhutchins_wk>Caaruzo: Ask whoever built the system or fdisk -l
14:43<Caaruzo>my swap has 15gb but ive installed 16gb of ram
14:43<jhutchins_wk>Caaruzo: There you go.
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14:44<Caaruzo>http://prntscr.com/ho17v5
14:44<jhutchins_wk>Caaruzo: Suspend-to-disk attempts to write the contends of RAM to the swap partion (iiuic) so it has to be bigger than RAM.
14:44<Caaruzo>is there an way i can increase that now?
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14:44<Caaruzo>without reinstall?
14:44<Brigo>Caaruzo, for shutdown problem i would try this: https://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/Debugging/
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14:45<somiaj>jhutchins_wk: can depend on upstream, but for bigger projects I do agree.
14:45<Brigo>Caaruzo, does supend to ram work?
14:45<jhutchins_wk>Caaruzo: It's possible to resize adjacent partitions, but the easiest way is to make a backup, repartition, and restore. You need the backup anyway if you're messing with partitions, and restore is quicker than resize.
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14:45<Caaruzo>sec i try suspend
14:46<Caaruzo>y suspend works
14:46<Caaruzo>but hibernate with wol is more energyefficient isnt it?
14:47<Brigo>you can add a file for swap, at least for testing.
14:47<Brigo>Caaruzo, and it support energy faults.
14:47<Brigo>i use to hibernate and supend
14:47<Caaruzo>how can i do this? iam not so deep into thoose partition things in debian. sry
14:48<Brigo>Caaruzo, https://wiki.debian.org/Swap
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14:48<Brigo>the section Creating and modifying swap on an existing machine is just for you.
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14:49<jhutchins_wk>Brigo: I don't believe the system will use a swap file for suspend-to-disk but it might.
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14:50<Caaruzo>thanks Brigo. ill try that out. what would you tell me to use, for make the computer startable via wol? indeed to save most energy. s4 or s5?
14:50<jhutchins_wk>Caaruzo: Suspend to disk uses the least energy.
14:51<grawity>swap is exactly where suspend-to-disk writes its stuff
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14:51<Caaruzo>will the lan port still be powered on with state s4?
14:51<grawity>(differently from e.g. Windows which has separate files)
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14:52<Brigo>Caaruzo, i really don't know
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14:52<Caaruzo>ok ty
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14:53<Brigo>fyi, my swap is smaller than my ram, and hibernate works.
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14:54<Brigo>swap 4,7G ram 8G
14:54<Caaruzo>mh ok thats weird
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14:54<grawity>yes, hibernation skips things like cache (because what's the point)
14:54<grawity>and compresses the rest
14:54<Brigo>yes, maybe it's just empty most the time.
14:55<Caaruzo>btw adding a swap file wont work for me :( still the same problem on hibernate
14:55<somiaj>Sounds like the issue started after installing video drivers and/or non-free firmware for network. Sometimes these drivers can be problemmatic with both suspend and hibernate, and one needs to remove the drivers before hibernate, then bring them back after
14:55<grawity>so e.g. if you have 8 GB of memory, but only 5 GB used, you'll need somewhere 3~5 GB swap
14:55<somiaj>Caaruzo: what network drivers did you install before having this problem.
14:55<Brigo>true, but this get done automaticaly usually.
14:55<Caaruzo>ive installed llvm 3.9, clang 3.9 with firmware-linux. for lan ive installed r8168
14:56<Caaruzo>cause standard on r8168 cards debian uses r8169. but in that case my wol dont work lawl
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14:56<somiaj>you may want to try to manually remove the r8168 module with modprobe -r r8168 before the hibernate
14:56<Caaruzo>i can try for test sec
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14:58<Caaruzo>still hanging in remove driver xD
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15:04<Caaruzo>is it normal modprobe -r r8168 does take such a long time?
15:04<somiaj>so it is removing the module that is hannging
15:05<somiaj>It shoudln't take that long
15:05<Caaruzo>its still running
15:05<jhutchins_wk>Caaruzo: Actual swap can use any combination of partitions and files, but I think suspend requires contiguous partition space.
15:05<jhutchins_wk>Possibly take the interface down before removing the module?
15:06<Caaruzo>damn console is hanging lol
15:06<Caaruzo>ah lol iam dumb as hell xD
15:06<Caaruzo>console disconected. good iam also on there localy
15:07<Caaruzo>and not just rmeote, my fault sry xD
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15:08<Caaruzo>ok tried hibernate without lan driver now. still not hibernating. Need to Hardreset the system to get it back xD
15:09<Caaruzo>thats weird
15:09<Caaruzo>btw there were now just 2 gb of ram in use when tried hibernate
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15:11<Caaruzo>weird lsmod | grep r8 says its still installed
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15:12<blast007>that mobprobe -r doesn't persist, so after a reboot it would come back
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15:13<Caaruzo>ah ok. than thats the reason. so hibernate didnt worked then anyway :/ weird.
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15:13<somiaj>so it is something else causing the hang, not the network card.
15:14<jhutchins_wk>Most progress messages list the thing that happened _before_ the thing that caused the hang.
15:16<Caaruzo>Starting suspend at Do 14. Dez 20:29:55 CET 2017 hibernate: [01] Executing CheckLastResume ... hibernate: [01] Executing CheckRunlevel ... hibernate: [01] Executing LockFileGet ... hibernate: [01] Executing NewKernelFileCheck ... hibernate: [10] Executing EnsureUSuspendCapable ... hibernate: [11] Executing XHacksSuspendHook1 ... hibernate: [59] Executing RemountXFSBootRO ... hibernate: [89] Executing SaveKernelModprobe ... hibernate: [91]
15:16<Caaruzo>arg sry usiong paste bin
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15:16<Caaruzo>https://pastebin.com/Hbirb8WU
15:16<Caaruzo>hibernate.log
15:17<somiaj>note, many here prefer you dno't use pastebin.com, use something else such as paste.debian.net
15:17<somiaj>!pastebin.com
15:17<dpkg>pastebin.com mangles input, takes forever to load, often makes us enter a CAPTCHA to see your paste and fills the screen with ads. Please use a different site, like http://paste.debian.net/
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15:21<Caaruzo>http://paste.debian.net/1000912/
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15:21<Caaruzo>sry
15:22<somiaj>its fine, but more will look at links if it isn't pastebin
15:23<jhutchins_wk>pastebin.com has also been accused of malware, but I haven't seen that confirmed (and if so they cleaned it up).
15:23<Caaruzo>kk i didnt knew
15:23<jhutchins_wk>There was somewhere I worked that blocked it too.
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15:30<Caaruzo>aah that drives me crazy. i really dunno what should cause the problem :/
15:30<Caaruzo>never had such issues on deb 8 lol
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15:33<Caaruzo>when i do a dump, then i reinstall os with bigger swap and insert the dump back, the drivers should also be in shouldnt they?
15:34<somiaj>clarify how you are going to do the dump.
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15:34<somiaj>I suggest this.
15:34<somiaj>!aptitude clone
15:34<dpkg>To clone a Debian machine using aptitude (or install your favourite packages) use aptitude search --disable-columns -F%p '~i!~M!~v' > package_list; on the reference machine; xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < package_list; aptitude install; on the other machine. This preserves information about "automatically installed" packages that other methods do not. See also <reinstall>, <things to backup>, <debian clone>, <apt-clone>.
15:34<somiaj>also you will need to ensure you have non-free in your sources.list before doing that
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15:38<jhutchins_wk>Why not just boot to an ISO and rsync?
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15:39<blackslide>Hello, just wanted to chime in. Got a Lenovo Helix 3, Debian 9 64bit seems to work great out of the box. Gnome 3 finally makes a lot of sense. (Since this is a tablet/laptop -convertible)
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15:40<Caaruzo>i created a dump with dump -0af sda1-root-level0.dump /dev/sda1
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15:41<somiaj>oh an lvm dump, that should work too, lots of different methods to clone/backup aninstall
15:41<Caaruzo>^^
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15:42<jhutchins_wk>Will dump/restore work if the target for restore is smaller than the original?
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15:44<Caaruzo>i think so, cause the dumpfile is just 2 gb it just uses the files fiolders etc. it doesnt create a image in rawr size xD
15:44<Caaruzo>*folders
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15:48<Caaruzo>should it be enough to make the swap 16 gb? or should i do 17?
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16:07<Caaruzo>arg weird package restore doesnt exist anymore .... does someone know how to write back the dump file?
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16:09<blast007>the package 'dump' contains both dump and restore
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16:10<Caaruzo>oh
16:10<Caaruzo>didnt knewed it got ported like that xD
16:10<Caaruzo>then i need to read thanks
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16:55<blackslide>hmm... need a gui for tidalbar..
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16:56<hiq[m]>hi, I get a "socket bind() to port 25 for address ::1 failed: Cannot assign requested address: daemon abandoned" in my /var/mail, I don't use exim4 myself though, I guess it's used by some daemon. Any where this could come from?
16:56<hiq[m]>netstat does not return anything listening on port 25 either
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17:10<briner>hi, I'd like to use the config panel of gnome to share folders through cifs. Is there any special package that offers a full gnome expérience ?
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18:23<Someonz>My TP LINK TL-WN823N while connecting to a network says authentication with mymac timed out
18:24<Someonz>I have already all drivers installed
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20:07<clayfreeman>I'm integrating my package with dbconfig-common; the documentation states that substitution of things like _DBC_DBNAME_ isn't possible for schema upgrades. What facilities are available for schema upgrades if the user specifies a custom database name?
20:11<bremner>clayfreeman: #packaging (or #debian-mentors for official packages) might be a better bet for that question
20:11<clayfreeman>okay, thank you bremner!
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20:14<Someonz>My TP LINK TL-WN823N while connecting to a network says authentication with mymac timed out, I have already all drivers installed
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21:54<DanMiikkael>the wiki doesn't really explain what is <release>-updates in SourcesList
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21:57<gusnan>DanMiikkael: https://wiki.debian.org/StableUpdates
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22:30<hipolito>hi
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22:36<mantar>Hey, does anyone know how to restart pulseaudio on Stretch?
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22:45<epony>mantar $ sudo rcctl restart sndiod
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22:51<tacocat>what? this is #debian
22:52<tacocat>https://wiki.debian.org/PulseAudio#Restarting_the_Pulseaudio_Daemon maybe?
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22:57<mantar>tacocat: I looked there first. There's no pulseaudio command anymore, I checked dpkg-query -L pulseaudio, and only got config files and /etc/xdg/autostart/pulseaudio.desktop, which calls the start-pulseaudio-x11 thing, which I also can't find.
22:58<blast007>I have a pulseaudio command on my stretch
22:59<blast007>do you actually have the pulseaudio package installed?
22:59<epony>I have never used $linux audio, and I am happy and smiling at ya.
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23:00<mantar>Yeah, pulseaudio was running this morning, then I had a problem with the volume and decided to kill and restart it. Lo and behold, I can't restart it now.
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23:01<blast007>cuz the pulseaudio package includes a 'pulseaudio' executable
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23:02<blast007>so, you should have that command available on the command line
23:02<mantar>Yeah, it's not listed in the package contents. I guess I'll reinstall the package?
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23:03<blast007>did you uninstall pulseaudio?
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23:04<mantar>No, all I did was kill the daemon. Reinstalling...
23:04<mantar>Okay, that seems to have done it, suddenly dpkg-query -L pulseaudio has a lot more stuff in it again. Weird!
23:05<mantar>Here I was thinking the packages had been reorganized, but I guess it was some kind of corrupted update or something.
23:06<mantar>Welp, thanks, guys!
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