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00:15<donofrio>anyone got time to help get my sound working?
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01:30<pschweiger>Hello, I'm trying to do a bug report on a Xorg crash issue.
01:30<pschweiger>I've installed xserver-xorg-core-dbgsym 2:1.19.2-1+deb9u2
01:30<pschweiger>and xserver-xorg-video-{radeon,ati}-dbg 1:7.8.0-1+b1
01:30<pschweiger>But running gdb on the dumped core shows 'No symbol table info available.'
01:31<pschweiger>Thus I was not able to extract the backtrace.
01:31<pschweiger>Am i overlooking something? Thanks.
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01:41<jm_>pschweiger: tried this way instead? https://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/XserverDebugging
01:42<pschweiger>jm_, I was following the "Obtaining a backtrace from a coredump" section in that wiki page.
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01:42<jm_>pschweiger: ahh ok, are you sure it's X server that crashes?
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01:44<pschweiger>jm_, Well, the Xorg.2.log says "Caught signal 11 (Segmentation fault). Server aborting"
01:44<somiaj>could be the wm crashing, xorg sees that and then ends
01:45<somiaj>if the server segfaulted, it won't be able to abort itself (at least I don't think it would be able to)
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01:46<jm_>pschweiger: yeah that sounds like X server itself crashed. does it work if you attach to Xorg using the other method?
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01:46<pschweiger>somiaj, If it's approriate I'll describe my setup briefly here:
01:46<somiaj>hmm, didn't think a program could detect that it segfaulted, I thought it would just be killed.
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01:47<somiaj>but I would listen to jm_, sounds like I'm mistaken on this.
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01:48<jm_>somiaj: SIGSEGV can be caught, SIGKILL and SIGSTOP can't be
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01:49<pschweiger>jm_, I'll try the direct attach way, but the crash is not very easy to reproduce, I'm not sure attaching gdb to xorg would affect its "ability" to crash
01:50<jm_>pschweiger: have you checked if anyone else reported something similar?
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01:54<pschweiger>jm_, Basically my xserver crashes on VT switch, but in my case in a very specific circumstance.
01:54<pschweiger>jm_, and there are several bug reports regarding VT switch on the BTS
01:54<pschweiger>In my case, I started two xservers :0 and :1
01:54<pschweiger>..and run qemu with Windows guest on :0, rdesktop/xfreerdp connected to the VM on :1
01:54<pschweiger>when I switch from :1 to :0, there is a possibility that :0 would crash
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01:56<pschweiger>The log looks like this: http://paste.debian.net/1001225/
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01:56<jm_>pschweiger: doesn't sound like a very unusual setup, except most people only run one server
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02:00<jm_>it's a bit ironic that the only symbol resolved in there is xorg_backtrace :)
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02:02<pschweiger>Well, probably I forgot to add the option "NoTrapSignals"? I'm not very familiar with debugging applications
02:02<pschweiger>I'll try.
02:02<jm_>hmm not sure about that one, but yeah, worth trying that too
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04:00<didier>I need support for an issue on bluetooth adapter
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04:08<somiaj>didier_: give details about your situation and adaptor, what have you tried?
04:09<somiaj>have you read the debian wiki on bluetooth?
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04:16<didier_>Yes read all I could. Pc is new. I had the inside adaptor working for a while until I did Fn-Bluetooth by mistake. I is right close to Fn-Sleep. Then it desappeared. When, few weeks ago Debian did an update on the system, it came back with it. Yesterday I did the mistake again instead of Fn-sleep I did Fn-Bluetooth. Gone again.
04:18<somiaj>can y ou hit Fn-Bluetooth and it comes back? Have you done a full reboot, maybe that is what brought it back after an upgrade.
04:21<didier_>Doean't come back if I tape F- Bluetooth again. I was searching for doing that upgrade again. I would be happy with the solution. Don't know how. Went on system update. Don't see options. Full reboot? how?
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04:21<somiaj>didier_: one way is run 'reboot' as root, so 'sudo reboot', you could also do systemctl reboot
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04:22<didier_>I try now.
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04:24<jm_>or maybe power cycle?
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04:29<didier_>Doesn't work. I tried both
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04:36<didier_>I tried to search for options in System and updates. Don't see options. If I click to undo updates, then click it again, appaears "Revert" to select it. Then it goes on Cache and never ends"
04:37<didier_>Update frm terminal? I did sudo apt-get update. No results
04:39<didier_>I went on Bios, to refresh from there. Didn't either
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04:47<didier_>I see the following but don't know how to use it: ".ifexists module-bluetooth-discover.so"
04:50<didier_>and this: "unload driver modules for Bluetooth hardware" Don't knoe how to use this. Maybe a code or something like reloading the adapter?
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04:51<jm_>you unload modules with rmmod
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04:57<didier_>The only thing I can do in System an Updates is "Cache Refresh" It stays for ever though
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04:58<didier_>I understand the modules means the outside devices to connect to Pc, not the inner adapter.
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05:00<jm_>if it's talking about kernel modules then it doesn't really matter
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05:13<didier_>I have this: https://paste.gnome.org/pa7f3jc8s
05:15<TotallyNotKim>cool
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05:23<didier_>but no adaper seen. Is it Debian, or Gnome problem?
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05:27<TotallyNotKim>post "lsusb | grep Bluetooth" and "dmesg | grep -i blue"
05:27<TotallyNotKim>pardon
05:27<TotallyNotKim>"lsusb | grep -i Bluetooth"
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05:33<didier_>https://paste.gnome.org/pixvdaz9z
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05:35<didier_>Nothing yet. Need to reboot?
05:35<TotallyNotKim>do you use bluez?
05:35<didier_>yes
05:36<TotallyNotKim>does "hcitool scan" find any devices?
05:36<didier_>Blueman
05:36<TotallyNotKim>make sure your bluetooth device is set to be discoverable
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05:41<didier_>It can't be discoverable, since it doesn't show up
05:41<didier_>I am checking bluez from Synaptic
05:41<TotallyNotKim>that's not what I meant
05:41<TotallyNotKim>anyway
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05:42<TotallyNotKim>does the hcitool from above show any results
05:42<TotallyNotKim>screw synaptic
05:42<TotallyNotKim>learn how to deal with the terminal
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05:42<TotallyNotKim>you will love it once you got the hang of it
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05:45<didier_>root@zenesc:/home/didier# hcitool scan
05:45<didier_>Device is not available: No such device
05:45<didier_>root@zenesc:/home/didier#
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05:47<didier_>Problem is the adapter, not the device to connect to pc
05:48<didier_>I paste the beginning again: "Yes read all I could. Pc is new. I had the inside adaptor working for a while until I did Fn-Bluetooth by mistake. I is right close to Fn-Sleep. Then it desappeared. When, few weeks ago Debian did an update on the system, it came back with it. Yesterday I did the mistake again instead of Fn-sleep I did Fn-Bluetooth. Gone again. "
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05:59<didier_>https://paste.gnome.org/plwn8cg8l
06:00<didier_>rfcomm?
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06:16<didier_>"bluez-hcidump, cl-umlisp-orf, libnet-bluetooth-perl, python-lightblue, snarf" all packs installed with rfcomm
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06:28<rootkea>Hello! I am using LUKS on LVM on Debian Stretch. I have encrypted /home and swap partition. When initram gets loaded it asks for password to decrypt swap partition. That passowrd doesn't get printed to screen. No stars. Nothing.
06:29<rootkea>But After which Kernel gets loaded (I think) and it asks password for /home which gets printed as stars. I'm really worried about this. Here is a screenshot https://imgur.com/bC4AF6H
06:29<rootkea>How do I prevent those stars from getting printed on the screen?
06:36<petn-randall>!tell rootkea -about crosspost
06:39<rootkea>petn-randall, Sorry. I just saw OFTC user count 776 and that of Freenode 1638 *after* I posted in OFTC. That's why I later posted in Freenode. Anyways, my bad. BTW, in the hindsight it would have been really nice to have bridge between OFTC #debian and Freenode #debian.
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07:12<tt>rootkea: they have differentg passphrases ?
07:12<tt>rootkea: the two channels share some bots and regular users/helpers.
07:15<petn-randall>... and now we have two separate discussions going on ...
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07:25<didier_>Any more thoughts on that bluetooth adapter issue?
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07:26<rootkea>didier_, Sorry, I didn't follow the issue. Joined late. May I know what was it about?
07:27<didier_>I paste the beginning again: "Yes read all I could. Pc is new. I had the inside adaptor working for a while until I did Fn-Bluetooth by mistake. I is right close to Fn-Sleep. Then it desappeared. When, few weeks ago Debian did an update on the system, it came back with it. Yesterday I did the mistake again instead of Fn-sleep I did Fn-Bluetooth. Gone again. "
07:28<tt>didier_: have you tried just rebooting? or does the gone-ness survive a reboot??
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07:28<didier_>I have this: https://paste.gnome.org/pa7f3jc8s
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07:29<didier_>https://paste.gnome.org/pixvdaz9z
07:30<didier_>yes, rebooted in 2 ways
07:30<didier_>one way is run 'reboot' as root, so 'sudo reboot', you could also do systemctl reboot
07:32<didier_>It came back with the update. few weeks ago! I tried to investigate in System and Updates
07:33<didier_>Another stretch version?
07:33<rootkea>didier_, What do you mean by "it's gone"? Which bluetooth mananger are you using?
07:34<didier_>Blueman, and the one in Gnome
07:34<didier_>The adapter doesn't appear in none of them
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07:35<didier_>In I put an external, they both see it, and uses it. But create more conflicts than the inner adapter
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07:37<rootkea>didier_, I don't think Blueman UI shows own adapter. I am taking your "it's gone" as you can't search anymore? Adapter > Search
07:38<rootkea>I meant search other Bluetooth adapters/devices in the vicinity
07:40<didier_>Where do I search for Adapter? in Terminal?
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07:41<rootkea>No I was talking about Blueman UI. But you can search from Terminal too. Let me find the commands.
07:42<didier_>Blueman doesn't show option for serching adapter. It just shows it. If I plug the external, it sees it. If I unplug, there is no more adapter. Although we know there is an inner adapter, and it has worked until I did that Fn-Bluetooth mistake
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07:45<rootkea>didier_, run hcitool dev
07:45<rootkea>Does it show the bluetooth device?
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07:47<didier_>root@zenesc:/home/didier# hcitool dev
07:47<didier_>Devices:
07:47<didier_>root@zenesc:/home/didier#
07:48<didier_>If I put external: root@zenesc:/home/didier# hcitool dev
07:48<didier_>Devices:
07:48<didier_> hci0 00:0A:CD:2E:05:B1
07:48<didier_>root@zenesc:/home/didier#
07:48<rootkea>Oh! So it doesn't recognize your bluetooth adapter.
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07:49<didier_>I would not bother if the external would work fine, but it creates conficlts
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07:50<didier_>But with the debian update it came back again
07:50<didier_>That is what I thought of reupdating Debain. Possible? How?
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07:55<rootkea>didier_, Did you consider your internal bluetooth adapter may be gone for real? I mean may be it's damaged or something. So a pure hardware issue?
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07:57<didier_>No, because it when once typing Fn-Bluetooth, then came back with the update, then gone yerterday when I did the mistake of typing Fn-bluetooth. For it is near Fn-Sleep
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07:58<didier_>That Fn-Bluetooth key somehow make it go, and doesn't make it come back
07:58<rootkea>didier_, That's a key, right? May be press it again once to undo it's effect?
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07:58<didier_>First thing I did. Doesn't work
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07:59<rootkea>Alright. I'm out of ideas. :)
07:59<didier_>Thank you anyway
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09:39<didier_>Can I reinstall Debian 9.3 without loosing software installed and personal documents?
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09:42<petn-randall>didier_: Sure, is there a reason for the reinstallation?
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09:47<znoteer>Hi, what magic do I need to get the bluetooth daemon on my laptop started? "systemctl status bluetooth" tells me it's enabled, but inactive (dead). Running "systemctl start bluetooth doesn't change that. journalctl doesn't have anything about bluetooth except for the "sudo systemctl ..." commands I've run trying to make this work.
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09:57<znoteer>"grep -r -e blue /var/log" doesn't turn up anything interesting either...
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10:12<didier_>Bluetooth issue. I copy from before "I paste the beginning again: "Yes read all I could. Pc is new. I had the inside adaptor working for a while until I did Fn-Bluetooth by mistake. I is right close to Fn-Sleep. Then it desappeared. When, few weeks ago Debian did an update on the system, it came back with it. Yesterday I did the mistake again instead of Fn-sleep I did Fn-Bluetooth. Gone again. "
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10:18<Blacker47>didier_, sounds like aktivated kill-switch for the radio (bluetooth).
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10:20<Blacker47>didier_, press the key combination again should deactivate it in mostly cases... sometimes bt can't be active while wlan is on... but i know not much about bt..
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10:40<laptopguy>hi, hi, after last updates i cant boot my laptop directly on battery, ends up with a black screen with _ . booting on AC works and the system is 100% usable. im on kernel 4.9, intel hd530 using xserver-xorg-video-intel and xorg.conf (generated by Xorg -configure). what can i do? i have a flight to take and need this laptop so bad to work
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10:41<laptopguy>before updaweeks ago it was working, i updated debian packages and system, nothing more. on windows 10 and live usb ubuntu it works perfectly, it seems a misconfiguration of some kind. thanks guys, hope to fix this finally :)
10:43<laptopguy>hitting alt f2 or key combinations to open another console/terminal doest work when system is freezed at black screen, it needs a hard reboot. after rebooting there are no errors is xorg logs or syslogs im clueless. i have no extra grub flags to boot, only "text" to see info on screen
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10:46<laptopguy>tried tens of things from days of stuggle on google, i915.preliminary flags, i915.modeset=1 and so on, but now im not sure its about video issues cause booting on ac mode works.. no power saving software is installed, no laptop-mode-tools or tlp..sorry for all this info but feel is needed
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10:52<larjona>laptopguy: maybe this helps a bit: https://askubuntu.com/questions/980897/laptop-boots-fine-on-ac-power-but-gets-a-black-screen-if-booted-on-battery-inte
10:53<laptopguy>lol im that guy who wrote that..sadly that fix is not working and i cant access that user account to update the text anymore..that fix worked for 6 reboots then the issue was all over again. i removed all extra boot flags now.. thanks for searching larjzona
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10:54<petn-randall>laptopguy: Have you tried a newer kernel from stretch-backports?
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10:56<laptopguy>will try now the kernel from backports, im looking up how to do that
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11:00<laptopguy>do i only need to do this to install a kernel from backports? "apt-get -t stretch-backports install linux-image-amd64 linux-headers-amd64" im on debian 9 vanilla
11:00<laptopguy>thanks for helping guys
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11:04<larjona>laptopguy: you need to add the backports repo in your sources.list and apt update
11:05<laptopguy>yea i was taking as obvious to add the repos to sources lists.. so only "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade" then, no linux-image-64? thannks
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11:06<larjona>No, apt update and after that, the line you wrote before
11:07<laptopguy>ok, thanks to clarify.. i must do that on rescue mode cause now i cant even boot from ac mode..after trying 1 boot on battery and hard-resetting the laptop i get a black screen on AC mode too.. weird..hope this backports thing fixes it, brb will do it now
11:07<tt>laptopguy: you do not update an entire system to backports; instead, you select specific, individual packages that you wish to install from backports; otherwise, apt will ignore the packages in the backports repository (thanks to pin priority.)
11:08<tt>laptopguy: to instal package abcxyz from backports, you'd do something like: apt-get install -t stretch-backports abcxyz
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11:09<laptopguy>ok..yea i was having doubs about a system update with backports.. so only the kernel will be updated with "apt-get -t stretch-backports install linux-image-amd64 linux-headers-amd64", after adding the backports sources to apt file
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11:14<tt>updates will work like they should.
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11:14<tt>iirc, anyway... I should probably confirm that.
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11:17<laptopguy>currently im on kernel 4.9.0-4-amd64, debian 9 with defaults repo.. i just installed 4.13 from backports rebooting now
11:17<laptopguy>fingers crossed
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11:18<laptopguy>same black screen...wtf...on ac mode too now :(
11:20<ivan>you sure this is a working laptop?
11:21<laptopguy>should i install from backports also xserver-xorg-video-intel xorg lightdm? wondering.. yes the laptop is 100% working with windows 10 and live usb. used to work weeks ago before latest debian updates broke it like this
11:22<llaoala>can someone give me some commands to mount a usb stick
11:23<laptopguy>hardware is asus laptop, skylake intel hd530 and gtx950m.. i was using the intel card all the time from first day so its not like i screwed up video drivers trying different ones..always stuck with video-intel one
11:23<llaoala>only WREADS
11:23<petn-randall>llaoala: Are you running a graphical desktop on the computer?
11:23<llaoala>yes
11:23<petn-randall>llaoala: Then it should work out of the box with the file manager of your choice.
11:23<llaoala>dont worry ill look on firefox
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11:24<llaoala>its a bit complicated
11:24<petn-randall>llaoala: What is complicated?
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11:24<llaoala>making the USB stick mount
11:25<petn-randall>llaoala: What desktop environment do you have installed?
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11:25<llaoala>point linux
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11:26<petn-randall>Ah, that's not Debian then.
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11:27<llaoala>they said its based on debian
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11:27<petn-randall>llaoala: Try #pointlinux.org on irc.freenode.net.
11:27<petn-randall>!based on
11:27<dpkg>Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare http://futurist.se/gldt/). #debian only supports Debian and pure <blend>s; please respect our choice to volunteer here to help Debian users. Support for other distributions is off-topic on #debian, even if your own distro's channel is clueless or non-existent.
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11:28<laptopguy>tried 3 reboots still blackscreen..will try now to install from backports also xserver-xorg-video-intel xorg lightdm hoping it works with new kernel 4.13.. damn i would litteraly pay for this to be fixed but know nobody in real life that uses linux i even asked around
11:28<llaoala>im just trying to load the USB stick because i want to install another distro
11:29<petn-randall>llaoala: What distro?
11:29<llaoala>well i was thinking about something that would run good on an older type PC
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11:30<petn-randall>llaoala: You can ask for help in their support channel.
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11:30<llaoala>i would have helped my self more by now if i just fucking googled it
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11:31<petn-randall>llaoala: Whatever floats your boat.
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11:32<llaoala>how come USB sticks dont let you write only read on linux
11:33<petn-randall>llaoala: That ... is not the case on Debian. Again, ask in the proper channel.
11:33<llaoala>any commands that would help ?
11:33<petn-randall>llaoala: You've been told several times now to ask in the right channel.
11:33<llaoala>it says im running debian right now
11:33<llaoala>and you just said im not running debian
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11:33<petn-randall>llaoala: You've just told me you're running Point Linux. That is not Debian.
11:33<petn-randall>!based on
11:33<dpkg>Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare http://futurist.se/gldt/). #debian only supports Debian and pure <blend>s; please respect our choice to volunteer here to help Debian users. Support for other distributions is off-topic on #debian, even if your own distro's channel is clueless or non-existent.
11:34<laptopguy>is there a way to install an older kernel for me? older than 4.9? now the laptop is even worse please help lol
11:35<petn-randall>laptopguy: What did you do to make it worse?
11:35<ivan>laptopguy: did you try upgrading BIOS? installing firmware packages? disabling the graphics card that only shows black? (not sure if intel or nvidia)
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11:36<llaoala>the BIOS ?
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11:36<llaoala>you people have no idea
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11:37<llaoala>1 command
11:37<llaoala>fuckjibng google this shit or wat
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11:37<petn-randall>llaoala: Time to play somewhere else.
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11:40<laptopguy>yes i updated the bios earlier today to latest version, installed linux-firmware and intel-microcode (im on nonfree debian 9)..did everything i could think really.. i have hd530 integrated card and gtx950m but want to use only intel hd one.. to make it worse i installed the 4.13 kernel, with that it wont boot on AC as well.. now ill try to install from backports also xserver-xorg-video-intel xorg lightdm too
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11:41<laptopguy>tried deleting xorg.conf and /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-intel.conf files too, now there are no configs
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11:41<laptopguy>im not even sure its about video this issue. i remember it was working before kernel 4.9 latest updates
11:41<petn-randall>!bumblebee
11:41<dpkg>The Bumblebee project aims to provide support for the Nvidia Optimus GPU switching technology on Linux systems. GeForce 400M (4xxM) and later mobile GPU series are Optimus-enabled; if «lspci -nn | grep '\''[030[02]\]'» returns two lines, the laptop likely uses Optimus. Packaged for Debian <jessie> and <wheezy-backports>. http://wiki.debian.org/Bumblebee http://bumblebee-project.org/ #bumblebee on irc.freenode.net.
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11:42<petn-randall>laptopguy: Do you have an optimus chipset? ^^^
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11:43<laptopguy>yes its optimus.. gtx950m and intel hd530 are optimus.. i tried bumblebee and nvidia-drivers too earlier today, bumbleblee freezes the system before login prompt and fans spin like crazy, nvidia driver = black screen like right now
11:43<laptopguy>it was working i remember with intel driver like a month ago or so
11:44<petn-randall>laptopguy: Wait, are you running Debian *stable*?
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11:45<mihi>Hello. Is there a documentation for all the debian-installer preseed/boot options available? In particular, I'm searching for the "shared" options mentioned in https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=724931#246
11:45<judd>Bug http://bugs.debian.org/724931 in apt-setup (open, patch): «ISO loopback support for Debian installer»; severity: wishlist; opened: 2013-09-29; last modified: 2017-06-26.
11:46<mihi>Or if there is no documentation, kindly point me to the source where they are implemented..
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11:46<laptopguy>im running debian stretch 9 vanilla yea
11:48<laptopguy>oh crap, now booting the 4.13 kernel shows failed to start lots of services and forces me to emergency mode login..wtf.. should i just delete this and go back to 4.9? this is so bad :(
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11:49<petn-randall>laptopguy: You can simply select the 4.9 kernel from grub. How did you install 4.13?
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11:50<laptopguy>yea i can select the 4.9 kernel at boot time.. installed 4.13 with backports "apt-get -t stretch-backports install linux-image-amd64 linux-headers-amd64"
11:50<laptopguy>now im back to 4.9 and black screen on both battery and ac mode boots :/
11:53<laptopguy>there should be some automated way to detect whats wrong and help the user debug this.. im clueless cause when i reboot there is nothing in the logs that says "hey its wrong here" sorry for ranting its like 1 month im struggling to fix this tried thousands ways
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11:58<jhutchin1_wk>laptopguy: Does text mode still work?
11:58<jhutchin1_wk>laptopguy: /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
11:59<laptopguy>you mean booting into rescue mode, only terminal, fullscren? yes with the root password
12:00<laptopguy>will try again now but logs were empty last time.. i cant hit alt-ctrl-f2 or other keys to open a new tt1 or how is called cause when system freezes at black screen with _ its unresponsive to keys
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12:06<laptopguy>xorg log is empty, i just rebooted on rescue mode to check it..
12:07<laptopguy>now ill try Xorg -configure and copy that file to /etc/X11/xorg.conf does it make sense? now there is no conf file
12:07<laptopguy>cause i deleted it..after hours im not even sure what im doing sorry
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12:08<laptopguy>Xorg -configure executed in rescue mode as root says "segmentation fault, backtraces to /usr/lib/xorg/ and libpthread". it generates a seemling valid xorg.conf file in /root/xorg.conf.new tho
12:09<laptopguy>earlier i was using this file as /etc/X11/xorg.conf (copied it) and it was working on AC mode..im so confused holy crap
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12:12<laptopguy>aaaand still black screen with _... even now with a xorg.conf file.. i dont want to sound rude but at this point i would tip 100$ and more to restore this laptop cause its my work machine.. i could tip with btc or eth.. its been weeks and weeks of tries :( im exhausted
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12:15<ivan>laptopguy: if it's black only after Xorg starts up, you might have an easier time debugging this by removing your graphical login manager (gdm?) and getting a faster feedback loop with startx
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12:16<laptopguy>im not sure if xorg starts up all i see is black screen with _ instead of lightdm login prompt.. so should i unistall lightdm and try loggin it text-only then startx?
12:17<laptopguy>thank you
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12:17<ivan>laptopguy: yes
12:18<ivan>make sure another login manager doesn't install itself
12:18<ivan>apt can be very "helpful" sometimes
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12:30<laptopguy>ok will try purging lightdm and do that right now
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12:32<laptopguy>if i can fix this i will get a tatto of the debian logo lol i swear
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12:36<laptopguy>failed to start network manager wait online i see.. and a text only login prompt..startx gets a black screen this time without the _
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12:36<laptopguy>now its freezed again damn
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12:37<laptopguy>i saw rcu_sched self-detected stall on cpu errors before freeze
12:37<laptopguy>xorg log was empty i managed to tail it
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12:39<ivan>laptopguy: ssh in from another computer and `journalctl -f`
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12:39<ivan>you might see a relevant kernel BUG or something before it freezes
12:40<sparky4>https://imgur.com/a/Qe163
12:40<sparky4>evolution is kill
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12:40<laptopguy>on yournal i see only nmi watchdog soft lockup errors with call traces to smp_apic_time apic_timer cpuidle stuff
12:40<laptopguy>journalctl sorry
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12:41<ivan>laptopguy: are you looking at the journal before or after it freezes?
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12:41<laptopguy>right before final freeze
12:42<laptopguy>it does that 2 or 3 times then freezes
12:43<ivan>yeah you probably want to get information about the actual crash somehow, if that is going on, either by connecting and watching from another machine, or if you're lucky and the kernel still writes data to disk, looking at /var/log/messages after a reboot
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12:44<ivan>if you connect from another machine try both journalctl -f and dmesg -w
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12:46<ivan>laptopguy: are you booting linux with certain options?
12:46<ivan>ah, I see some above
12:47<laptopguy>nothing except "text"..no extra flags... i tried debian 9 live usb just downloaded it..lxde one..it hangs on live usb too with IPV6 ADDRCONF link not ready.. it should pop up some graphical live distro right??
12:47<laptopguy>with ubuntu live it just works
12:48<laptopguy>checking /var/log/messages now
12:50<ivan>if ubuntu live just works, it might be worth investigating what drivers and firmware it is loading, what kernel modules are loaded, blacklisted, etc, and trying to replicate that
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12:51<laptopguy>xubuntu xfce live usb uses intel drivers the equivalent of xserver-xorg-video-intel on this machine.. i tried that too..dint find any difference in that like nvidia drivers being used
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12:51<laptopguy>is there a way to restore defaults video parts on my debian install? like purging xorg and other packages and resintall
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12:51<ivan>ubuntu may also have kernel patches, you can look at their kernel tree or see if installing their kernel makes things work
12:52<laptopguy>i barely get what a kernel patch is that looks out of my possibilities
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12:53<laptopguy>i dont even know where to start, just want to restore this debian installation like it was 1 month ago, perfectly working on same hardware :(
12:53<laptopguy>is possible to install an older kernel? 4.9-0-4 im using now.. 0-3 too it behaves the same for this issue
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12:54<ivan>laptopguy: if you didn't apt-get clean you might find your old kernel in /var/cache/apt/archives
12:55<laptopguy>there are only these two kernels there :( just looked.. it seems debian 9 only has 4.9
12:56<laptopguy>isnt there a way to know a default working configs / package stack for this hardware on debian? intel hd530 gtx950m is so hard to find info
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13:02<jhutchin1_wk>laptopguy: x.org
13:03<jhutchin1_wk>laptopguy: How new is this thing? Intel graphics mostly work out-of-the-box.
13:04<laptopguy>asus k550, got this last christmas new
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13:04<laptopguy>yea it worked out of the box after debian install...some updates broke this recently
13:04<jhutchin1_wk>laptopguy: How new is this thing? Intel graphics mostly work out-of-the-box.
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13:05<laptopguy>its 1 year old, the laptop.. intel graphics is hd530 chip
13:06<sparky4>can anyone help me with my broken evolution?
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13:08<jhutchin1_wk>laptopguy: what's the PCI ID? lspci -nn
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13:09<pecan>hi!
13:09<pecan>how can i replace android with debian?
13:09<laptopguy>now i reinstalled xorg xserver-xorg-video-all and lightdm..back to blackscreen with _ will check now the pci id
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13:09<pecan>i've smartphone device
13:09<laptopguy>i also removed xserver-xorg-video-intel to see if no more cpu lockups
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13:39<papamoose>Anyone know anything about the most recent 'jessie' debian-installer kernel released here: http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/jessie/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/debian-installer/amd64/linux ? When using to PXE boot I get a kernel panic almost immediately, but if I use the old one (http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/jessie/main/installer-amd64/20150422/images/netboot/debian-installer/amd64/linux) it works fine.
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14:05<laptopguy>lspci -nn returns lots of stuff, 00:01:0 pic bridge intel skylake pcie controller
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14:05<laptopguy>00:002.0 vga compatible controller intel hd graphics 530
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14:05<laptopguy>sorry for waiting i had to dinner
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14:16<towo`>laptopguy, debian isn't using the intel ddx by default
14:16<towo`>default modesetting ddx is used on intel devices
14:17<towo`>also, for skylake and above you need non-free firmware for the graphics and i really suggest to install the non-free intel microcode package
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14:18<laptopguy>thanks, i have intel-microcode installed and apt sources include non free ones so i should be set for that i think.. should i reinstall that package or?
14:19<laptopguy>or maybe install intel-microcode from backports since it would be newer? maybe im wrong sorry
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14:20<towo`>intel microcode is one, the other is firmware-misc-nonfree for the graphics
14:20<towo`>then you shoul explicit set the intel driver for x
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14:21<laptopguy>also, not sure if this is correct: no xorg.conf file in /etc/X11 and no 20-intel.conf file in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/ i removed both, were created to test earlier today... oh you mean another package, let me install that really quickly thank you..to explicit set the intel driver to X i need a xorg.conf file i suppose..thank you very much
14:22<laptopguy>i already have firmware-misc-nonfree installed it says
14:23<towo`>bacports or the stretch one?
14:23<towo`>i would suggest kernel and firmware from backports
14:24<laptopguy>stretch one is installed currently.. should i try installing from stretch-backports linux-image-amd64 linux-headers-amd64 intel-microcode firmware-misc-nonfree? other packages too or only those? thank you towo
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14:25<laptopguy>earlier today i tried kernel 4.13 from backports and it failed to boot (were directed to rescue mode everytime by default with "failed to start.." services errors" but maybe it was missing other packages
14:25<laptopguy>cause it was kernel from backports running with intel stuff from vanilla stretch
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14:32<laptopguy>not sure if these are all the packages i should install from stretch-backports "linux-image-amd64 linux-headers-amd64 intel-microcode firmware-misc-nonfree xorg xserver-xorg-video-all" or if something else is needed to no break everything lol
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14:33<laptopguy>oh and lightdm too i forgot in that list
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14:39<Milkamax>Hello World
14:41<laptopguy>damn now it freezes too with same black screen with _... i only saw Failed to load virtualbox modules error before that..everything else was [ok]
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14:41<laptopguy>im on 4.13 from backports with intel-microcode and firmware-misc-nonfree too.. (also xorg, and the other packages said earlier from backports now)
14:43<laptopguy>instead of the blackscreen a login prompt lightdm should pop up :/ unistalling lightdm now to see what startx does
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14:46<laptopguy>i dont even know if any boot flag is needed like i915.modeset=1 or one of the hundreds on google from people with same issues :/ tried them all earlier but now im using no extra boot flags whatsoever just "text"... thanks guys you are my only hope in this messy thing
14:47<somiaj>you don't have to uninstall light dm
14:47<somiaj>!nodm
14:47<dpkg>In systemd, "systemctl set-default multi-user.target", or remove the DM package(s) with "aptitude remove gdm3 kdm lightdm lxdm nodm sddm slim wdm xdm". "echo false >/etc/X11/default-display-manager" will also disable the DM, or just hit ctrl-alt-fN to get to a console. nodm is the name of a minimal/automatic display manager (https://github.com/spanezz/nodm).
14:47<somiaj>that command about putting flase in /etc/X11/default-display-manager will make it so it won't load, then you can chnage it back to lightdm when you are ready to use it again
14:48<laptopguy>earlier i had acpi_osi=Linux acpi=on intel_iommu=on i915.preliminary_hw_support=1 idle=nomwait ... deleted all of those,, ok so im not unistalling lightdm thank you :)
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14:53<laptopguy>i did that "echo false >/etc/X11/default-display-manager and rebooted..saw multiple failed to start lightdm errors but is ok i guess. i see weird errors now before getting into text mode login even. watchdog bug soft lockup cpu stuck for 23s
14:54<laptopguy>again and again on loop.. i guess this was hidden by the blackscreen with _ earlier with lightdm on.. will try booting with those old acpi acpi_osi flags now lets see
14:54<laptopguy>damn this is so confusing and hard
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14:57<laptopguy>even weirder now lol..booting with "acpi_osi=Linux acpi=on" seems to solve those cpu soft lockup bugs now im in text mode login
14:58<laptopguy>should i do startx or sudo service lightdm start now to test? im logged in as user, no rescue mode, normal text-mode login
15:00<laptopguy>so weird now... doing startx starts graphical desktop with my own things right there... but network manager doestn work, no networks detected is says.. what the heck :( new bug
15:03<laptopguy>and on poweroff it hangs with tons of cpu soft lockup errors now.. i did right-click poweroff from openbox.. booted fine with acpi flags.. this is way too hard for me damn
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15:08<somiaj>I would just do startx, it is a little easier to debug
15:08<laptopguy>sudo service lightdm start executed after i logged in into text-mode fails
15:08<somiaj>sounds like you have exotic hardware
15:08<laptopguy>if i startx my openbox desktop pops up like usual.. but no networking works
15:08<jhutchin1_wk>laptopguy: You're taking a lot of extreme actions for a system that was working fine until recently. I don't suppose you have a system backup or could revert to earlier versions of the packages, possibly with one of the snapshot isos.
15:09<jhutchin1_wk>laptopguy: It sounds like something could have corrupted the software, and it sounds like it's getting worse.
15:09<laptopguy>i have backups of personal files but have no way to rollback debian..i wish..this system is used for very sensitive jobs i would just like to fix it i know its way too much messy
15:10<somiaj>well what happened before you started experincing these issues? was it an upgrade from jessie to stretch?
15:10<laptopguy>tempted to reinstall, i have debian 9 amd64 lxde already into an usb drive but this is mess is just misconfiguration/broken packages its fixable i think.. no it was a kernel update that broke everything then i started trying to fix things and broke even worse
15:11<laptopguy>laptop was working perfectly after installing debian 9 months ago
15:11<laptopguy>like perfect, a dream machine truly
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15:11<jhutchin1_wk>laptopguy: There would be nothing about a normal update that would require such drastic reconfiguration.
15:13<jhutchin1_wk>laptopguy: Even a release upgrade wouldn't make this much trouble.
15:13<laptopguy>i have 3 other laptops a little older all with debian 9, they are flawless,...this one fucked up in the last updates somehow, it probably was even my fault trying to fix things i broke everything but now i cant manage to restore :( sorry
15:13<jhutchin1_wk>I just upgraded a sever from Lenny (5.0) to stretch and I didn't have to touch the hardware settings.
15:13<somiaj>did you do anything to yout stretch install like install unoffical kernels, software, etc?
15:14<laptopguy>other laptops are 2009 and 2011 so no skylake to copy configs from :/
15:14<laptopguy>(i tried using those configs too)
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15:14<somiaj>I know there was a small regression bug in the recent stretch kernel upgrade, but all you should have to do is downgrade the kernel (maybe grab it off of snapshot.debian.org). So either system has been corrupt, you installed some third party stsuff that messed with it, or hardware is going bad.
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15:15<laptopguy>i installed basic software from apt, nothing external.. like virtuabox, kvm, pidgin,.. i would love to use an older kernel but how?
15:15<jhutchin1_wk>laptopguy: I agree with somiaj.
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15:15<laptopguy>i can only find ways to use newer kernels like 4.13 from backports but what about trying lets say 4.8 kernel? now im on 4.9
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15:16<somiaj>I mean a prevrious 4.9 kernel, before the regression happened (if it really is the case you hit a regression bug which is small)
15:16<somiaj>but if it worked just fine in stretch, you can reinstall stretch and it should work just fine again provided the hardware isn't bad.
15:16<somiaj>if you really are an edge case with some regression bug, you can get the exact kernel from snapshot.debian.org it worked just fine on, and then track down the regression bug report.
15:17<laptopguy>same hardware works fine on windows 10 (dual booting), tested with prime95 and all sorts of tests its clean.. i even play gta5 sometimes with this laptop.. so you would reinstall stretch? i just made a usb with this iso https://gensho.ftp.acc.umu.se/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/9.3.0-live+nonfree/amd64/iso-hybrid/debian-live-9.3.0-amd64-lxde+nonfree.iso
15:17<donofrio>ok what is you installed debian 9 and getting sound issues (this says was fixed in debian 8? - /msg dpkg macsound)
15:17<laptopguy>but trying live debian ends up with a never ending loop before even lightdm appears )live iso)
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15:27<laptopguy>i would rather not reinstall cause it would take a lot of time to restore the system as is right now..i have backups of files from /home/ but all the softwares wwould be gone.. i remember fucking around with realtek wifi drivers before this mess maybe that helps?
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15:27<laptopguy>ended up installing non free ones from apt, soon after that i remember upgrading lots of packages cause it was update day and the very next reboot it was broken
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15:30<donofrio>labtopguy, perhaps apt-get install gdm instead of lightdm
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15:31<laptopguy>now i rebooted with lightdm disabled... logged in in text-mode and executed startx.. im back in desktop 100% working with wifi and network manager working... this is werid im not sure if i reboot and it will act the same
15:31<laptopguy>gdm you say, ok will try.. is ok with openbox? is gnome i think
15:31<laptopguy>for gnome*
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15:33<laptopguy>damn i cant format this thing it works its just misconfigured somehow this is so weird :(
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15:34<laptopguy>i mean now im facing the desktop and laptop works like usual i cant wrap my head around this.. is lightdm broken then.. i would like to reboot like 5 times to see if is stable and 100% working every time like this but afraid
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15:36<laptopguy>apt-get install gdm says package gdm has no installation candidate, i see libgdm only
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15:44<laptopguy>i reinstalled lightdm and the greeter and now lightdm shows up wtf... let me reboot like 5 times to see...im shaking lol
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15:49<mnuhmnuh>laptopguy: you don't actually need *dm to run X. i've used just startx at times.
15:51<laptopguy>yes it works without lightdm just fine if i startx.. but it would be comfier to use lightdm cause i have multiple accounts and the gui is very nice for lke my gf who hates the command line
15:51<laptopguy>"where is the login screen laptopguy? blahblah" i already ear that lol
15:52<mnuhmnuh>tell her to get her own damn box, or build her one.
15:52<laptopguy>jokes apart it seems to work now, im at 3rd reboot on AC mode and is perfect, all working.. will do 5 then try on battery.. hope it works too
15:52<laptopguy>ahahah yea i was joking
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16:01<laptopguy>now im back with on AC works on battery black scren with _.. what are my options now? thanks for helping guys now at least works on ac it seems
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16:02<somiaj>as mentioned this should nto be happeneing unless you have a corrupted install (reinstall) or failing hardware
16:02<laptopguy>will try now to disable lightdm again, boot on battery and startx manually to see if its lightdm the issue.. hardware is fine i tested it multiple times.. on other operating systems.. also on AC works perfectly it was misconfigured it seems
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16:03<somiaj>then something is corrupt in your debian install, reinstall is the easiets way to fix that.
16:03<laptopguy>as last hope will reinstall debian 9 from usb iso yea
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16:03<laptopguy>i wanted to try gdm before that but how to install it? apt-get install gdm doestn work it says not found
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16:04<laptopguy>cause it looks like lightdm is doing crazy things..now after an hard reboot it doesnt work on ac mode too.. just like before..disabling it now
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16:08<laptopguy>confirmed lightdm issue.. if i disable that and manually startx everything works.. on ac.. testing now same thing on battery
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16:09<joao_>hi
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16:09<itd>judd: info gdm3
16:09<judd>Package gdm3 (gnome, optional) in stretch/amd64: GNOME Display Manager. Version: 3.22.3-3+deb9u1; Size: 653.8k; Installed: 4648k; Screenshot: https://screenshots.debian.net/package/gdm3
16:09<itd>laptopguy: Maybe you mean that?
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16:11<itd>joao_: Hello.
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16:12<laptopguy>oh yea, silly me :) booting on battery throws errors cpu lock with apic_timer call traces.. should i try installing acpi related packages from backports too? so they are newer?
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16:12<laptopguy>if so which ones could be useful to install from stretch-backports? it looks like an acpi issue maybe
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16:13<joao_>hello
16:13<laptopguy>i can only find acpi-call-dkms acpi-modules from https://packages.debian.org/search?suite=stretch-backports&keywords=acpi
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16:14<joao_>anyone like java here ?
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16:15<laptopguy>to sum it up: laptop on AC works fine (without lightdm, manually starting x), on battery doesnt even get to text-mode login and hangs with cpu soft lockups with call traces about acpi rtk8821ae (wifi) cpuidle acpi_timer stuff
16:16<itd>joao_: Island, coffee or language? Why do you ask?
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16:21*itd is not a bot. Don't "/msg itd".
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16:22<itd>dpkg: tell joao_ about ask
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16:24<laptopguy>removing acpid made network manager lose connection and seems to take forever.. it might be the broken package?
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16:24<laptopguy>removing it to try installing it from backports
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16:26<laptopguy>had to hard reboot again wtf freezed when removing acpid
16:27<somiaj>again, this sounds like either flaky hardware or a corrupted system.
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16:27<laptopguy>same hardware works fine on windows 10 on battery..cant be faulty only on debian
16:28<laptopguy>yea is probably corrupted packages
16:28<somiaj>unforntually hardware companies don't really support linux, maybe windows drivers are just dealing with yoru flaky hardware.
16:28<somiaj>if acpi/apm is being flaky it might show up in linux where it woudln't in windows.
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16:29<laptopguy>ok but if faulty hardware how can it play gta 5 for example for hours straight with no crashes/artifacts, can use on battery normally with windows
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16:30<laptopguy>brb will try reinstalling acpi stuff from backports this time
16:30<donofrio-g5>anyone know where I'd start to get my ATI video working with firmware it says it's missing "radeon 0000:f0:10.0: firmware: failed to load radeon/R300_cp.bin"
16:32<mnuhmnuh>laptopguy: commercial devs have the inside track on os & hardware capabilities, & etc.
16:32<itd>judd: file radeon/R300_cp.bin
16:32<judd>Search for radeon/R300_cp.bin in stretch/amd64: firmware-amd-graphics: lib/firmware/radeon/R300_cp.bin
16:32<itd>donofrio-g5: Try installing that.
16:33<itd>(that = firmware-amd-graphics)
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16:33<donofrio-g5>k
16:33<donofrio-g5>trying
16:33<mnuhmnuh>see non-disclosure agreement
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16:34<donofrio-g5>I cannot tab complete apt-get install firmware-??
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16:34<somiaj>you have to have non-free in your sources.list to access that package
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16:34<donofrio-g5>ah I'll do check
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16:36<mnuhmnuh>donofrio-g5: never tried that, but it worked. listing of firmware-yadayada! sheesh. :-)
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16:37<somiaj>well only complets packages that you can install, hence most likely missing non-free in sources.list
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16:47<laptopguy>damn i cant manage to reinstall acpi acpid packages.. on rescue mode it says "cant connect to more than one socket" and dpkg --configure cant finish
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16:47<laptopguy>on gui mode it just hangs there.. acpi packages are broken its very clear now but how to clear them?
16:48<laptopguy>now is stuck at "setting up acpi-support-base".... blinking
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16:54<mnuhmnuh>somiaj: it's a cool feature. i wish we'd all expend more effort educating wrt non-free. end users were never expected to understand that non-free was any of their problem. non-free is dev's prob.
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16:57<donofrio-g5>somiaj, well video working way better (kodi 17.3 runs now - need to get to 17.6 but that is a low priority issue) right now last iss I believe I have is sound on this g5 tower
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17:02<laptopguy>help now i unistalled acpi* and cant reinstall it... from backports or not i cant.. it says acpi-support-base depends on acpid howevever acpid not configured yet, "failed to start acpi event daemon" on install
17:03<laptopguy>now i broke video again cause acpi is broken and startx is just a black screen without _ now.. worked perfectly before this.. fuuuuu
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17:07<papa_>hello
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17:08<papa_>hello
17:08<mnuhmnuh>having fun yet?
17:08<papa_>pls can anyone reply me
17:08<itd>papa_: No.
17:08<mnuhmnuh>depends.
17:08<itd>dpkg: ask
17:08<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
17:08<itd>papa_: Read what dpkg said.
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17:09<papa_>im new in here and i want to learn hacking
17:09<itd>papa_: Kali or parrot?
17:09<papa_>parrot
17:09<itd>dpkg: parrot
17:09<dpkg>Parrot OS (https://www.parrotsec.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution. It is based on Debian testing, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #parrot on irc.frozenbox.org or try the mailing lists at http://lists.parrotsec.org/listinfo. Also ask me about <based on debian>.
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17:09<itd>papa_: Join the parrot channel.
17:10<papa_>ok thnks
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17:27<donofrio-g5>this install slowed way down when I added 'non-free' the did apt-get update && apt-get upgrade -y && apt-get dist-upgrade -y the I apt-get install firmware-amd-graphics - now glxgears is good and kodi run's but god is the video slow to render, even just hexchat is slow....how do I fix this slowness?
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17:31<donofrio-g5>it's so slow like 5-10 seconds just to switch workspaces???
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17:36<donofrio-g5>it's so slow like 5-10 seconds just to switch workspaces???
17:40<mnuhmnuh>glxgears: "302 frames in 5.0 seconds = 60.317 FPS" - that's svga w lcd display; great for my uses.
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17:41*mnuhmnuh not gamer.
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17:53<donofrio-g5>mnuhmnuh, mine is 54 fps, flicker gone but this huge deply between switching appps or switching workspaces takes 5-10 seoconds now ;(
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17:57<mnuhmnuh>donofrio-g5: RAM bound, swap/storage/drive speed bound, bus, ...
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17:58<mnuhmnuh>i've only 4 gb ram here, wish i had 8
17:59<mnuhmnuh>still, doesn't often get in the way.
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18:01<donofrio-g5>mine is https://apaste.info/wCEe
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18:08<mnuhmnuh>donofrio-g5: i've not been impressed by laptop power which i've purchased through the years. desktops & towers can handle linux. laptops & etc., not nonvinced.
18:09<mnuhmnuh>donofrio-g5: i've not been impressed by laptop power which i've purchased through the years. desktops & towers can handle linux. laptops & etc., not convinced.
18:09<donofrio-g5>I'm on desktop "G5 tower"
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18:10<donofrio-g5>anyone know how I can get my soundcard working, they said it was fixed in debian 8 but I'm runnig debian 9 so wondering what I can do...also remmina is blue?
18:12<mnuhmnuh>lspci | grep Network
18:13<mnuhmnuh>oops. sorry.
18:14<mnuhmnuh>lspci | grep Audio
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18:18<mdx0>https://thimbleweedpark.com/
18:20<mnuhmnuh>mdx0: convince me why i'd want to look at that. consider me curious, but suspicious (on others' behalf). what's wrong with paste.debian.net?
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18:21<mnuhmnuh>what's remmina?
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18:32<donofrio-g5>mnuhmnuh, remmina is my ssh/rdp client I use to admin over 300 server with for work....
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18:46<donofrio-g5>mnuhmnuh, nothing returned when I did that lspci for audio.....keep in context this desktop worked on ubuntu 16.04 now in debian 9 so my rdp client will work...
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18:50*mnuhmnuh it was fun adminning corp boxes, ca. a thousand all named after physicists at one place, all cars at another, all random md5sums at another, ...
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18:52<donofrio-g5>mnuhmnuh, md5 checksum now that is a boring theme for hostnames lol
18:52<mnuhmnuh>indeed.
18:53<donofrio-g5>and my audio is not working ;(
18:53<mnuhmnuh>but sysadmins are paid to be crazy.
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18:54<donofrio-g5>mnuhmnuh, I'm middleware so yah I leave the crazy to the sysadmins lol
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18:55<mnuhmnuh>donofrio-g5: your prob. is software or hardware; how to narrow prob. down. yes?
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18:55<donofrio-g5>software guessing cause these problems we not in ubuntu 16.04 fwiw (dawnung flac jacket lol)
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18:56<mnuhmnuh>donofrio-g5: haha, my last big gig was middleware, fixing !@#$ nobody else would touch for fear of breaking it.
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18:57<mnuhmnuh>donofrio-g5: good. software config fixes are much easier to do.
18:58<donofrio-g5>mnuhmnuh, yep, I'm ready to do what is needed to get sound working and speed up machine (back to what is was before I added non-free) and icing on the cake would be to get remmina-rdp to not look pink....
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19:10<laptopguy>ok, i just reinstalled debian 9 brand new. battery or ac boots now behave the same.. but after typing user pass in lightdm nothing shows up, the wallpaper is there with the debian logo and my mouse..cant right click.. no lxde desktop..what can i do please i even formatted wtf
19:10<laptopguy>:( :(
19:11<laptopguy>its a fresh install now
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19:13<mnuhmnuh>laptopguy: depends what "just reinstalled debian 9 brand new" means. what did you say about select/deselect options on install?
19:14<laptopguy>did a clean install with a new debian 9 iso just downloaded it.. amd64 lxde iso.. i selected nothing weird except separate home partition like i always do and luks password setup. it asked nothing about drivers and hardware detection was all good, wifi, video worked (graphical installer)
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19:15<laptopguy>lightdm shows up at first boot, i type user pass and i only see the wallpaper with debian logo and mouse, cant do anything..i know lxde desktop has stuff like you can right click, its not what im seeing
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19:19<laptopguy>im so pissed and sad what the fuck formatted everything for even more bugs issues out of the box
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19:24<donofrio-g5>mnuhmnuh, anything I can do to get this audio working, and would be cool if I could get it sped back up to normal usability speed, right now my system acts so slow in the gui
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19:27<laptopguy>fml
19:30<laptopguy>this is by far the shittiest experience with linux ive ever had, with perfectly working hardware. sorry but its 1 month, today ive spend 10 hours on this, formatted just now and i cant even boot the first time!
19:30<laptopguy>how do you use this distro graphically? voodo?
19:30<laptopguy>the magic, not old graphics cards
19:31<laptopguy>its using nouveau drivers now by default btw
19:31<donofrio-g5>laptopguy, for what it's worth I run ubuntu at work on my windows 10 corp install (basically I use windows as a 15gb bootloader) tinyurl.com/donofrioworkdesk
19:32<donofrio-g5>laptopguy, if you can live in userspace only then its a nice way to have all your drivers load and still get bash and moar
19:33<laptopguy>look, this is my work laptop and each hour spent fixing it is very expensive cause i cant work.. i just want to get back into my graphical usable debian.... a clean install + 4 hours waiting to wipe data (no opt out for that) and now i have boot issues again..i feel like shit
19:33<laptopguy>what can i do? dont want to install another distro again :(
19:34<laptopguy>btw this is the most sold laptop on amazon on 2016, so its not exotic..nor broken
19:34<donofrio-g5>I didn't say install a new distro (well I did) but that is after windows 10 is installed (all drivers work in win10) {dawking flack jacket} the install ubuntu using wsl ;)
19:35<laptopguy>thank you but i still dont get how to fix this clean install of debian, after loggin in with lightdm nothing happends.. mouse stays there and no desktop whatsoever comes up..mouse moves
19:36<laptopguy>also i cant even do ifconfig eth0 up now in rescue mode.. it says no such interface exists... nice to have a clean install broken like this what the heck i was expecting
19:36<donofrio-g5>laptopguy, what WM are you useing (I'm partial to xfce4 fwiw)
19:36<laptopguy>installed debian llxde but wanted openbox later
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19:37<donofrio-g5>laptopguy, note that this is a volunteer thing here so going around saying this is "expensive" and the like is no issue of this distro....they will help but it takes time (perhaps join freenode and ask in #debain there too?)
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19:39<laptopguy>i offered crypto (tips in btc) for a fix... not to sound rude sorry if seems like that..im just desperate and very very confused by now..i know is volunteer and i thank you all
19:39<laptopguy>in fact i followed every advice even reinstalled a clean debian cause i surely had broken system packages
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19:39<donofrio-g5>ok what hardware model?
19:40<laptopguy>now its all clean but wont boot past lightdm login.. i have intel hd530 and gtx950m (skylake asus laptop asus k550)
19:40<laptopguy>i saw its using nouveau drivers out of the box after install.. maybe thats wrong?
19:40<laptopguy>thank you <3 :)
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19:40<donofrio-g5>have you gone to tty1 and logged in and checked out /var/log/messages?
19:40<cef>laptopguy: default network interfaces in debian have changed (as have the tools) so 'eth0 is now probably something different. look at the output of 'ip addr'.
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19:41<donofrio-g5>cef, keep in context that he was in rescue mode so maybe network is off in that state?
19:42<laptopguy>after logging in to lightdm if i go to another tty1 it doesnt appear.. mouse disappears and wallpaper stays there freezed.. i need a reboot for that. yea i was in rescue mode for ifconfig eth0 up.. earlier i was able to do that
19:42<laptopguy>should i go to tty1 before logging in to lightdm? to check logs i mean
19:42<donofrio-g5>yah no login just goto tty1 before
19:42<cef>laptopguy: also look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
19:42<donofrio-g5>if you can....guessing intel video issue....
19:42<donofrio-g5>yah what cef said
19:42<donofrio-g5>look for EE's
19:43<cef>given it's got 2 video cards (nvidia and intel), quite likely it's something related to that.
19:44<donofrio-g5>laptopguy, what happens in a livedvd session of dare I say ubuntu on it?
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19:44<laptopguy>in Xorg.0.log only (II) no errors or clues.. yea its optimus laptop.. but i wanted to use only intel chip cause better battery and i dont need graphics heavy stuff on this os.. im now on another tty1 while lightm is there with user and pass not filled
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19:44<laptopguy>ip addr shows 1: lo 2: enp3s0f1 4:wlp2s0
19:45<donofrio-g5>laptopguy, try apt-get install gdm might be a lightdm issue?
19:45<Brigo>laptopguy, i would search the logs for a missed firmware.
19:45<cef>the issue with all these dual-card setups is there's so many different ways to hook them up and vendors "love" doing it differently to every other vendor.
19:45<Brigo>laptopguy, if nouveau driver is loaded then you are using the nvidia card, can you disable it in bios?
19:46<cef>or, even themselves, between revisions of the same model laptop (which is downright rude)
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19:47<laptopguy>only entry in /var/log/lightdm/x-0.log is AIGLX: suspending AIGLX clients for VT switch.. its a (II) not error.. cant disable card in bios,,,just checked
19:47<laptopguy>logs like kern.log or messages are without errors or clues
19:47<Brigo>laptopguy, check journalctl -b and search for errors.
19:47<laptopguy>ok
19:48<Brigo>or firmware
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19:49<laptopguy>i see two red lines, nouveau DRM pointer to TMDS table invalid and pointer to flat panel table invalid.. im looking for more
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19:49<laptopguy>nouveau priv:HUB0 10ec0 fffffff another red line
19:50<Brigo>laptopguy, anyway you'll have better luck with nvidiar draivers if the card is new.
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19:51<cef>flat panel table being invalid is probably part of it. if it can't tell where the display is, it'll just sit there.
19:51<cef>I have to go.. meeting someone for lunch.. good luck with it laptopguy
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19:51<Brigo>!someone
19:51<dpkg>Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>.
19:52<laptopguy>there are no other red lines or errors in journal...checked it all.. thank you cef :) good lunch ill eat some pizza later lol
19:52<Brigo>laptopguy, then i would try with nvidia drivers. You can get them from non-free
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19:53<cef>either that, or go down the bumblebee route (set up optimus). even if you use that to force intel only.
19:54<laptopguy>its just "apt-get purge nouveau && apt-get install nvidia-driver" needed to try nvidia drivers? yea i have nonfree iso.. i tried bumbleblee before reinstalling debian.. it froze the system with fans spinnig like mad.. id love to use that but looks very hard to set up
19:54<Brigo>i know nothing about bumblebee, just fyi.
19:54<laptopguy>i would be happy with intel drivers and just hd530
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19:55<Brigo>then configuring bumblebee correctly would be the path, but i can't help you there.
19:55<Brigo>anyway, i have to go now, it's bed time here.
19:56<Brigo>it was few hours ago :)
19:57<laptopguy>thank you :) ill try to fix this before bed
19:57<laptopguy>for the 30th time or so i think
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20:00<Brigo>laptopguy, good luck with that bumblebee thing.
20:00<laptopguy>thanks
20:01<laptopguy>i cant even do ifconfig ethinterfacename up && dhclient ethinterfacename to access internet from text mode..to download nvidia drivers
20:02<laptopguy>this starts to be too much i might install xubuntu a screw debian forever..too bad i liked it a lot :( but im crippled now for real
20:05<laptopguy>the worst thing of all is debian got the best logo of all...cant deny that.. lol joking but i used debian since 10 years or so and dont really want to drop it but its 2 in the morning im so sick of debugging obscure bugs like this :(
20:05<laptopguy>you are all kind
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20:54<sparky4>how can i fix evolution?
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20:55<mnuhmnuh>sparky4: wha's broken?
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20:56<somiaj>is this the evolution version from debian or upstream?
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20:56<sparky4>mnuhmnuh: https://imgur.com/a/Qe163
20:56<sparky4>debian
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20:56<sparky4>it broke when i upgraded to stretch
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20:58<sparky4>somiaj: mnuhmnuh
20:58<annadane>someone else had this issue before
20:58<annadane>another instance running
20:58<sparky4>and Cannot start Evolution. Another Evolution instance may be unresponsive. System error: Error calling StartServiceByName for org.gnome.evolution.dataserver.Sources5: Timeout was reached
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20:58<annadane>so first of all i'd try opening your task manager and checking for another evolution process, and terminating said process
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20:59<somiaj>it could also be something with the $HOME settings, maybe try to create a new user and see if that new user can run evolution
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20:59<somiaj>if so, you'll have to remove all the evoluation configuation in $HOME
21:01<annadane>(you can create new users using adduser, and evolution configuation is probably in .config, which is a hidden folder)
21:02<somiaj>you may need to add that new user to some basic groups for xorg to work, such as video, audio. Run 'groups' on your current user for the list
21:04<sparky4>!
21:04<sparky4>there is no other
21:05<sparky4>i did and it fails
21:05<somiaj>so same issue with a new blank user, well that means it isn't something in your users config
21:05<somiaj>this on debian stretch?
21:05<sparky4>annadane: somiaj i did that
21:05<sparky4>yes
21:05<annadane>wonder if there's a bug report about this, this isn't the first time it's been reported
21:05<sparky4>the screen shot is with a new user
21:05<somiaj>could be some dbus issue, as that looks like a dbus call that is having trouble
21:05<sparky4>this is not the 1st time this happened wither
21:05<sparky4>somiaj: i think it is that
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21:10<somiaj>sparky4: are you fully upgraded to stretch, googling that errors gives me issues where the fix was enusre the most current versrion was running
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21:11<somiaj>what is the output of 'apt-cache policy evolution evolution-common evolution-data-server'
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21:23<mnuhmnuh>sparky4: try killall evolution, then try again?
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21:24<somiaj>mnuhmnuh: that isn't the issue, I would check that the stretch versions are installed, but i'm thinking a purge and reinstall would help
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21:25<somiaj>as I think there are config files with evolution that setup how it talks to dbus, and I think those might still be jessie configs and need to be updated to the stretch version of evolution
21:25<somiaj>that is about the best I could get form google
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21:28<sparky4>somiaj: yes
21:29<sparky4>mnuhmnuh: no instance is running
21:29<somiaj>sparky4: yes? I asked for some apt-cache policy output, but have you tried purging evolution and reinstalling it.
21:29<sparky4>somiaj: let me paste it~
21:30<mnuhmnuh>somiaj: i wish homo sapiens did things in far more civilized ways. :-| we should have learned to learn far better from our mistakes long ago. this's just computer !@#$. it ought to know how to clean up after itself. not that i'm much offended. :-|
21:30<sparky4>somiaj: http://paste.debian.net/1001396/
21:30<sparky4>somiaj: i can try.... again
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21:33<mnuhmnuh>sparky4: so, please describe your prob. again? sound?
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21:34<annadane>mnuhmnuh, https://imgur.com/a/Qe163
21:35<annadane>"and Cannot start Evolution. Another Evolution instance may be unresponsive. System error: Error calling StartServiceByName for org.gnome.evolution.dataserver.Sources5: Timeout was reached"
21:37<mnuhmnuh>sparky4: other environments work? prob. omly w evo?
21:37<sparky4>mnuhmnuh: ??
21:37<mnuhmnuh>sparky4: ??
21:38<sparky4>it works on my other laptop..
21:38<sparky4>strangely enough
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21:39<mnuhmnuh>"works in dev and testing, crashes prod. wut?!?"
21:40<sparky4>??????????????
21:40<mnuhmnuh>devopts ?!? magical crap.
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21:40<sparky4>if i edit this file/usr/share/dbus-1/services/org.gnome.evolution.dataserver.Sources.service
21:40<sparky4>and remove the 5 at the end. evolution behaves entirely different
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21:44<sparky4>ESR_DEBUG=1 /usr/lib/evolution/evolution-source-registry
21:44<sparky4>(evolution-source-registry:20977): dconf-WARNING **: failed to commit changes to dconf: The connection is closed
21:44<sparky4>Bus name 'org.gnome.evolution.dataserver.Sources5' lost.
21:44<sparky4>well it did before...
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21:44<mnuhmnuh>does not exist here.
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21:48<sparky4>!!
21:48<dpkg>I'm not your csh prompt!
21:49<sparky4>odd
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21:53<mnuhmnuh>sparky4: yeah, i enjoyed Ultrix compared to early sunos; but others varied. csh, never, once looking at it.
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21:58<sparky4>ahh!!
21:58<sparky4>changing the 2 files i mentioned
21:58<sparky4>wait the other file
21:58<sparky4>is
21:59<sparky4> /usr/lib/systemd/user/evolution-source-registry.service
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22:02<sparky4>dang it is so broken!!
22:02<sparky4>><
22:03<sparky4>** Message: gdbus call --session --dest org.gnome.evolution.dataserver.Sources4 --object-path /org/gnome/evolution/dataserver/SourceManager --method org.gnome.evolution.dataserver.SourceManager.Reload
22:03<sparky4>Error: Timeout was reached
22:03<sparky4>when i changed it to 4 instead of 5
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22:03<mnuhmnuh>sparky4: you get to keep the pieces. :-)
22:04<sparky4>gdbus call --session --dest org.gnome.evolution.dataserver.Sources5 --object-path /org/gnome/evolution/dataserver/SourceManager --method org.gnome.evolution.dataserver.SourceManager.Reload
22:04<sparky4>outputs Error: Timeout was reached
22:04<sparky4>as usual
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22:06<sparky4>I think it is a bug
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22:16<sparky4>somiaj: any idea?
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22:17<sparky4>running that long command returns () on the computer with the working evolution
22:17<somiaj>sparky4: did you purge all evolution packages and reinstall them?
22:17<somiaj>maybe makesure you include confmiss just in case
22:17<somiaj>!confmiss
22:17<dpkg>You have to especially tell the packaging system to reinstall config files because when they are gone, it is assumed that you want them to stay deleted. "aptitude -o DPkg::Options::='--force-confmiss' reinstall $packagename" will restore them (man dpkg for details). If the package uses <ucf> for config file management, ask me about <ucf confmiss>.
22:18<somiaj>it could also be a dbus issue, and I don't really know anything about dbus, but the error is not fiding correct dbus info
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22:32<sparky4>somiaj: well.. yeah i think sudo apt-get --purge remove evolution evolution-plugins evolution-common evolution-data-server evolution-data-server-common libedataserver-1.2-22 libedataserverui-1.2-1
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22:34<sparky4>somiaj: ok! i will try that
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22:36<somiaj>dpkg -l | grep -i evolution
22:36<dpkg>No packages found matching | grep -i evolution
22:36<somiaj>sparky4: just to make sure you don't have any other evolution apckages installed
22:36<somiaj>if you see 'rc' you'll have to purge them
22:36<somiaj>with dpkg
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22:36<sparky4>ok
22:39<somiaj>also when you install, include that option, DPkg::Options::='--force-confmiss', just to be safe
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22:40<sparky4>somiaj: rc?
22:40<sparky4>somiaj: i am using synaptic to purge all
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22:43<sparky4>OHH I see now~!
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22:48<sparky4>purging the libraries
22:49<sparky4>there was a bunch of old stuff in that
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22:51<sparky4>sigh it did not work..
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22:53<sparky4>somiaj: i did what you asked with purgeing the rc
22:53<sparky4>and evolution and the libs
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23:06<sparky4>the other laptop is using i686 kernel
23:06<sparky4>this one is the amd64
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23:39<nicolas>Hello ;)
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23:43<nicolas>Does anyone here use desktop mate? If yes, do you have any problems when you install an application, it will not appear in the menu unless I reboot my PC. And my other question. It's when I move my window it's like it lag or have kind of jump every time I move the window.
23:44<nicolas>If you want to know my configuration here it is, Core i7 5820k, GTX 1060 3GB
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23:46<kirk781>Maybe reinstalling mate will fix it, err?
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23:48<nicolas>I tried this did not solve my problem, yet my other PC has the same problem. I've tried gnome the same, Mate too, Only XFCE & Cinnamon works well, But I don't like it is flavor: / I love the mate version
23:50<kirk781>Maybe, it has something to do with your GPU drivers.
23:51<kirk781>Xfce works everywhere; it's so bare-bones.
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23:52<ivan>what's wrong with xfce?
23:52<nicolas>I made this command apt-get remove nvidia-driver nvidia-driver nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-dkms xserver-xorg-video-nvidia, Everything should work fine, right?
23:52<kirk781>Nothing's wrong with xfce, it's just it's visually un-appealing.
23:52<kirk781>nicolas: go ahead.
23:54<nicolas>it's with the Mate version and not xfce kirk781
23:55<nicolas>When I move my window, the window jumps.
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23:55<kirk781>Of course, xfce works; I was replying to ivan then
23:57<nicolas>Oh, I'm sorry. I never managed to put a pretty theme like numix on xfce. The theme is never well applied. Dependent on GTK3. Am noob :D
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