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#debian IRC Logs for 2017-12-19

---Logopened Tue Dec 19 00:00:11 2017
00:00<mnuhmnuh>nicolas: some of us never neded more "theme" than light on dark. :-)
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00:02<mnuhmnuh>nicolas: i love my new black on lightblue xman look.
00:02<nicolas>Do you have a picture of your office, my friend?
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00:21<mnuhmnuh>my office? I could tell you where to get my background pic. some guy swapped white for black on girlfriend then let it out. very tasteful, i think. office, nope, don't have one.
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04:30<adam__>Hi everyone, was hoping to get some guidance as to why some of my packages won't upgrade.
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04:30<mdx0>eve
04:30<adam__>I have backports enabled and some software has updated fine but others stay on an older version.
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04:31<mdx0>1.00.0.0.1/8
04:31<mdx0>127.0.0.1
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04:34<mdx0>!fstab
04:34<dpkg>extra, extra, read all about it, fstab is a file that lets the `mount' command know what mountable things (partitions, drives, etc) are in your system. Try `man 5 fstab` for more information on it. See also <label>, <uuid>.
04:34<mdx0>uid 1000
04:35<mdx0>chmod +777
04:36<mdx0>!chmod
04:36<dpkg>If you do not know how to use chmod but ask for a lesson in "Chmod 101" classes, we feel sorry for you, or simple octal, with r=4 w=2 x=1. rwxr-xr-- = (rwx) (r-x) (r--) = (4+2+1) (4+0+1) (4+0+0) = 754. or ask me about <permissions>.
04:37<mdx0>chmod wrx
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04:37<petn-randall>adam__: The packages won't automatically upgrade to newer versions of stretch-backports, you need to explicitely tell apt to install a newer version from backports if you want it. After that, it will track that version, so a newer version in backports will automatically get selected if you run 'apt update && apt upgrade'.
04:39<mdx0>!ipconfig
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04:39<mdx0>!iwlist
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04:39<dpkg>The wireless-tools package provides utilities for manipulating Linux Wireless Extensions (wext), including iwconfig and iwlist. It also provides wireless-* ifupdown hooks to /etc/network/interfaces, read /usr/share/doc/wireless-tools/README.Debian for more information. To connect to networks which use WPA encryption, ask me about <wpa>.
04:40<petn-randall>!self tell
04:40<dpkg>Please do not use the bot's !tell feature on #debian to see factoids for yourself (!tell me about something). Doing so could be considered spam. Instead, send a private message to the bot (dpkg) containing the factoid you want to read. For example, instead of "!tell me about foo", use "/msg dpkg foo". See also <msg the bot>
04:40<petn-randall>mdx0: ^^^
04:40<mdx0>!iplink
04:40<petn-randall>mdx0: Feel free to also ask questions if you need any guidance.
04:40<mdx0>!ip link
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04:43<mdx0>!dselect
04:43<dpkg>dselect is a wonderful UI for package management, or really more powerful than apt-get, or the only thing that provides FULL data when making decisions on whether to install a package. Obsolete documentation is at http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/dselect-beginner/ . See also <aptitude>, <fix-unmet>. For details about the bot, ask me about <dselectbot>.
04:43<dselect>dpkg: You are person #1 to send an unparseable request
04:43<mdx0>!chroot
04:43<dpkg>To chroot into your Debian system boot to your Debian install disk/live CD, switch to the other console (Alt-F2). Mount your root filesystem with "mount -t ext2 /dev/whatever /target" and make /dev, /proc and /sys usable with "mount --bind /dev /target/dev ; mount -t proc none /target/proc ; mount -t sysfs none /target/sys". You can then chroot into the system with "chroot /target".
04:44<petn-randall>mdx0: Please stop it.
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04:44<mdx0>okay,
04:45<mdx0>petn-randall, okay,
04:46<petn-randall>mdx0: Check the self tell factoid above how to ask the bot in private.
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04:49<mdx0>!nfs
04:49<dpkg>Network File System (NFS) is a distributed file system protocol developed by Sun Microsystems. To set up and secure, read the Linux NFS-HOWTO at http://nfs.sf.net/nfs-howto/ . For notes on NFSv4 in Debian, see /usr/share/doc/nfs-common/README.Debian.nfsv4. Mailing list: http://vger.kernel.org/vger-lists.html#linux-nfs . http://wiki.debian.org/NFS http://nfs.sf.net/ #linux-nfs on irc.oftc.net.
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04:50<mdx0>!screenx
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04:51<mdx0>!openssh
04:51<dpkg>OpenSSH (OpenBSD Secure Shell, http://www.openssh.com/) is a free implementation of the Secure Shell (<SSH>) protocol. Packaged for Debian as openssh-server and openssh-client (install the ssh <metapackage> for both). SSH protocol 1 is disabled by default as of openssh 1:5.4p1-1. "Getting started with SSH": http://kimmo.suominen.com/docs/ssh/
04:53<mdx0>hi, i havin' a question
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04:54<mdx0>does a linux compatibly list exist' for linuc friendly hardware?
04:54<mdx0>does a linux compatibly list exist' for linux friendly hardware?
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05:02<mdx0>!deb
05:02<dpkg>Debian .deb packages are a special form of <ar> archive which can be unpacked with "ar x pkg.deb". Inside the file control.tar.gz are conffiles, installation scripts, and a file "control" which contains the information shown with "apt-cache show pkg". Dependencies can be changed by editing this file. Install the dpkg-dev package and read "man 5 deb" for more details. A better plan is to see <package recompile> <source package>.
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05:03<mdx0>!apt
05:03<dpkg>Advanced Packaging Tool (APT) is a package management system used by Debian and its derivatives. APT is a C++ library of functions that are used by several command line programs for dealing with packages, notably apt-get, apt-cache, and aptitude and, from Debian 8 "Jessie" onwards, apt. See also <aptitude> <apt-get>, <apt-cache>, <apt myths>.
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05:05<mdx0>!x.org
05:05<dpkg>X.Org X11 is the reference implementation of the X Window System, forked from XFree86 4.4RC2 and first included in Debian 4.0 "Etch". To install, ask me about <install x>. To configure, ask me about <xorg config>. To remove, ask about <remove x>. http://wiki.debian.org/Xorg http://x.org/ #xorg on irc.freenode.net.
05:06<mdx0>!systemd
05:06<dpkg>systemd is a system and service manager for Linux, compatible with SysV and LSB init scripts. It is a replacement for <sysvinit>. systemd shipped as a technology preview in Debian 7 "Wheezy" and is the default init system in Debian 8 "Jessie". https://wiki.debian.org/systemd #debian-systemd on irc.oftc.net http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd #systemd on irc.freenode.net. See also <why systemd>.
05:06<mdx0>!kernel
05:06<dpkg>Linux kernel versions, mainline: 4.15-rc4, stable 4.14: 4.14.7, stable 4.13: 4.13.16 (EOL), longterm 4.9: 4.9.70, longterm 4.4: 4.4.106, longterm 4.1: 4.1.48, longterm 3.18: 3.18.88 (EOL), longterm 3.16: 3.16.51, longterm 3.2: 3.2.96, linux-next: next-20171219
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05:08<mdx0>!netwok
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06:22<EmleyMoor>I appear to be having issues reaching my servers from my phone when it's on wifi at home. I can reach them on local addresses (192.168.x.x) but not via their public IPs. I can, however, reach them that way when on mobile or others' wifi. My router/firewall is running stretch. Can someone please advise?
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06:23<grawity>does your router have "hairpin NAT" configured?
06:23<mikael>EmleyMoor: thats a consequence of your NAT setup
06:23<grawity>it's an ugly mess that is unfortunately required for doing what you describe
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06:23<mikael>I think it is called NAT reflection as well
06:24<grawity>or that, yes
06:24<EmleyMoor>grawity: Likely not. Can you point me to some guidance?
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06:25<grawity>I don't have any on that topic, except pointing at google://"iptables hairpin nat" e.g. https://serverfault.com/questions/205040/accessing-the-dnatted-webserver-from-inside-the-lan
06:28<duclicsic>generally the fix with iptables is to add a rule that matches packets from the LAN IP range that have the conntrack state "DNAT", and applying an SNAT operation to them which changes the source IP to that if the LAN interface on your router
06:29<duclicsic>the conntrack state isn't that vital, you could just match packets with LAN range source IP that are exiting on the LAN interface of the router
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06:30<duclicsic>e.g. if the lan range is 10.0.0.0/24 and the router lan interface is eth1, iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 10.0.0.0/24 -o eth1 -d <your public ip> -j SNAT --to-source <router lan ip>
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06:31<duclicsic>errr.. scratch "-d <your public ip>" from that
06:31<duclicsic>this is after the DNAT so that's wrong
06:31<duclicsic>use "-d 10.0.0.0/24"
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07:34<film>hello!
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07:36<film>I have a problem with root login, every time when i turn on my pc i need to root login for open my secondary hdd. somebody know how can i turn off this function?
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07:43<petn-randall>film: What do you mean with that?
07:44<petn-randall>film: What steps are you taking to "open" your secondary HDD?
07:44<film>just simply click on the hdd icon with my mouse
07:44<film>i turned on the automount option
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07:45<film>tried chown -R and chmod
07:45<petn-randall>film: You log into your DE as root for that?
07:46<film>yep when i turn on my pc i need to login to desktop, after that i open my files, checking my hdd-s i tried to open the 2. HDD but its asking me for the root pass
07:46<film>i know my password but its verry annoying
07:46<petn-randall>film: What filesystem do you have on your 2nd HDD?
07:47<petn-randall>film: You can simply add the 2nd drive to /etc/fstab.
07:47<film>my 2. hdd is only for movies, ext4
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07:50<film>and all of my hdds is already on fstab
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07:50<petn-randall>film: Can you show us your complete /etc/fstab on https://paste.debian.net?
07:52<film>https://paste.debian.net/1001447/
07:53<petn-randall>film: b266a900-20b6-43ee-9c55-f99c84428bfe is your 2nd HDD?
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07:54<film>https://paste.debian.net/1001448/
07:54<film>lshw
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07:55<film>yeh my debian on my seageat hdd and my 2. hdd is for movies (western digital)
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07:56<petn-randall>film: If you run 'mount /mnt/b266a900-20b6-43ee-9c55-f99c84428bfe', what happens?
07:57<film>mount: mount point /mnt/b266a900-20b6-43ee-9c55-f99c84428bfe does not exist
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08:00<film>im running a plex media server and all of my movies on my 2. hdd, so plex cant read my files if im not logged on
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08:00<film>its my real problem
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08:03<petn-randall>film: You have to create that directory once.
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08:10<film>https://screenshot.net/ze363tp
08:10<film>sry for the language
08:11<film>its looks ok now?
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08:14<Drzacek>Hello
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08:14<petn-randall>film: That looks correct to me now. If you reboot, it should automatically be mounted.
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08:15<Drzacek>So I have a minimal debian installation (in tasksel I didn't chose any GUI, only standard system + ssh). If I want some minimal gui, should I install openbox? I would like autologin, so I would also need some kind of login manager too - is there a package for such minimal system in debian repos?
08:16<petn-randall>!nodm
08:16<dpkg>In systemd, "systemctl set-default multi-user.target", or remove the DM package(s) with "aptitude remove gdm3 kdm lightdm lxdm nodm sddm slim wdm xdm". "echo false >/etc/X11/default-display-manager" will also disable the DM, or just hit ctrl-alt-fN to get to a console. nodm is the name of a minimal/automatic display manager (https://github.com/spanezz/nodm).
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08:18<film>thanks for the help!
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08:49<EmleyMoor>Being told I don't need hairpin NAT, just a rule to allow all eth1 to eth1 traffic. Have added it, but no go
08:49<duclicsic>you were misinformed
08:51<Brigo>a rule to allow all eth1 to eth1 traffic?
08:51<Brigo>how can you avoid it?
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08:52<grawity>EmleyMoor: do your servers have public addresses assigned directly, or port-forwarded/dmz'd?
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08:52<duclicsic>think about it. you send out a packet destined for your own public IP. it arrives at your router and it performs a DNAT operation on it which changes the destination IP to that of some host within your lan and forwards it on. the packet arrives at the server and it responds, BUT the address it sends the response to is the original source IP, since this IP is on the LAN it has a directly connected route,
08:52<duclicsic>so it doesn't send the response via the router. the response arrives at the client, but the packet has a different source IP than the destination you originally sent to.
08:52<EmleyMoor>OK, maybe you can clue me in a bit further... paste.debian.net/1001453 to 1001455. I need to make traffic originating from 192.168.0.0/24 reach the servers with directly assigned public addresses
08:53<grawity>I see
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08:53<duclicsic>that iptables output is useless
08:53<grawity>can you re-pastebin that mess using `iptables-save`?
08:53<duclicsic>please provide the full output of...
08:53<duclicsic>^^^
08:53<EmleyMoor>duclicsic: There's no DNAT
08:54<duclicsic>if you have a system on a private address that is able to receive requests direct from the internet, there must be
08:54<EmleyMoor>1001459
08:54<EmleyMoor>duclicsic: It's on a public address
08:54<duclicsic>oh ok
08:54<duclicsic>then it's an entirely different problem
08:55<duclicsic>sort of
08:55<duclicsic>read what i said above, the problem remains in this case
08:56<EmleyMoor>duclicsic: I've read everything you said. I am still unable to advance
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08:56<grawity>okay, so
08:56<grawity>how much investigation have you done so far
08:56<grawity>by which I mean, 1) do you see packets from your client reaching the server, 2) do you see the server sending replies back, and 3) does the client receive *any* of those packets back
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08:57<duclicsic>liberal use of tcpdump is encouraged
08:57<grawity>also, 4) on your servers, which routes match the client's IP address?
08:58<EmleyMoor>I've not seen any... but I'll see if tcpdump on the server helps
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09:00<duclicsic>tbh looking at the rules you pasted it does look as though you might not be accepting these packets
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09:00<duclicsic>make sure that you have a rule in FORWARD that allows packets inbound and outbound on your lan interface, as you mentioned before
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09:01<quinerr>hi, how can i provide different dns service on wan and lan via dnsmasq?
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09:03<EmleyMoor>Packets flow in using entirely 192.168 addresses but are sent back on the public address
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09:06<EmleyMoor>In other words, the server is talking back to the phone on the private range but the phone is talking to the public address
09:08<duclicsic>so let's follow the packet flow, it'll help work out where it's going wrong.
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09:08<duclicsic>client sends packet to server, source address will be 192.168.x.x right? destination will be your public IP. correct?
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09:09<EmleyMoor>duclicsic: Yes
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09:09<duclicsic>cool. now presumably the client host is just going to send that via its default route, so it'll send it to your router
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09:10<EmleyMoor>duclicsic: It must do...
09:10<duclicsic>the router will then forward it appropriately, presumably back out of the inteface it just came in on, could do with seeing the routing table here
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09:11<duclicsic>packet arrives at server, and assuming the firewall is configured correctly it will then send a response
09:11<duclicsic>we flip source and destination addresses. destination is now a 192.168 address, so it sends it direct across the LAN instead of via the router
09:12<duclicsic>there's nothing fundamental about this that shouldn't work
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09:12<duclicsic>so. run tcpdump on the router and make sure you see the packet both arriving and then exiting again on its lan interface
09:12<duclicsic>then run it on the server and check that it arrives, and that a response is sent
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09:42<EmleyMoor>Is there an easy way I can serve modified DNS records on my private LAN?
09:44<quinerr>EmleyMoor: dnsmasq/unbound/etc
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09:46<quinerr>!ping
09:46<dpkg>Yes, quinerr you are either online or you are not... http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20000326
09:46<EmleyMoor>quinerr: Indeed... are there some howtos around that would guide me?
09:47<quinerr>EmleyMoor: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/dnsmasq#Prevent_OpenDNS_redirecting_Google_queries
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09:49<EmleyMoor>quinerr: Don't think my scenario is even touched on there
09:50<quinerr>hmmmm... how do u want to modify records?
09:50<EmleyMoor>quinerr: To serve to my local LAN local IPv4 addresses for my servers
09:51<quinerr>EmleyMoor: just address=/router.my.local.lan.dns/192.168.1.1
09:52<EmleyMoor>That's a piece of configuration. I could do with a firmer explanation
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09:53<EmleyMoor>I'll see if I can get anywhere with it
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09:53<quinerr>EmleyMoor: echo 'address=/router.my.local.lan.dns/192.168.1.1' > /etc/dnsmasq.conf
09:53<quinerr>then systemctl restart dnsmasq
09:54<quinerr>the default setting will open 53 for you
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10:05<EmleyMoor>quinerr: Hmmm... doesn't seem to have been very effective
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10:10<EmleyMoor>Hmmm... maybe
10:11<quinerr>EmleyMoor: or use /etc/hosts
10:11<EmleyMoor>quinerr: Phones don't have /etc/hosts in a way I can use it
10:11<quinerr>dnsmasq automatically read hosts and add prefix to it
10:13<EmleyMoor>Irrelevant. In any case dnsmasq is working, just got to persuade the phone to take notice
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10:14<EmleyMoor>Phone takes no notice
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10:14<quinerr>EmleyMoor: domain=your.local.domain; addn-hosts=/whatever/hosts/files
10:15<EmleyMoor>Domain nothing. It's ilr
10:15<EmleyMoor>irrelevant. The problematic device is taking no notice whatsoever
10:16<quinerr>EmleyMoor: you didn't direct your phone to your new dns server?
10:17<EmleyMoor>quinerr: I did but it took no notice
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10:20<quinerr>EmleyMoor: what phone? clear cache?
10:21<EmleyMoor>Huawei P10+. Can find NO WAY to clear cache
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10:23<quinerr>EmleyMoor: open then close airplane mode
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10:29<EmleyMoor>quinerr: No good
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10:31<quinerr>EmleyMoor: getprop net.dns1 , is that your dns?
10:31<EmleyMoor>quinerr: Where do I input that?
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10:32<quinerr>your phone's terminal
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10:41<EmleyMoor>No terminal
10:41<brenlae>hi everyone - i have debian 9.2 and i did apt update and apt dist-upgrade but it says there is nothing to update
10:41<brenlae>so how do i upgrade to 9.3?
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10:42<Blacker47>brenlae, what does "lsb_release -a" say?
10:42<brenlae>one sec
10:43<brenlae>release 9.2
10:43<EmleyMoor>quinerr: No, the result of that shows the IPv6 address of my ISP's DNS
10:44<Blacker47>also dist-upgrade is for apt-get, for apt there is full-upgrade. also you must have internet-sources activated and not only dvd/cd.
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10:44<quinerr>EmleyMoor: oh ipv6
10:44<EmleyMoor>net.dns3 is right
10:44<quinerr>are you your own ipv6 gateway?
10:45<EmleyMoor>Yes
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10:45<brenlae>i see
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10:45<quinerr>change your ipv6 settings and direct it to your new dns
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10:48<EmleyMoor>Hmmm...
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10:49<hjf288>Hi, is there any ETA on getting a new netinst image for Debian Jessie since 8.10 shipped a broken kernel on multi-socket machines?
10:49<hell_>Hi
10:49<hjf288>or would someone be able to point me to a netinst image archive please?
10:49<brenlae>here is my sources.list https://pastebin.com/JbTm8Rj4
10:49<hjf288>I can only find the iso versions
10:49<brenlae>it's all set for stretch
10:50<hell_>anyone there?
10:50<hell_>what is this place exactly?
10:50<quinerr>!ask
10:50<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
10:50<blast007>hell_: the support channel for Debian Linux
10:51<hell_>am I chating live?
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10:53<dzodbok>hi
10:53<petn-randall>hell_: yes
10:53<Blacker47>brenlae, 1. you have security 2 times and the second time is cuted at the end (maybe by c&p). 2. you have security + updates but not the regular repository for strech like "deb http://ftp.ca.debian.org/debian stretch main contrib non-free" and maybe for deb-src too.
10:54<hell_>can I ask q related to hacking?
10:54<dzodbok>[17.12.17 09:42]
10:54<dzodbok>after installing the nvidia driver 340... is Not regulated by the brightness of the monitor.
10:54<dzodbok>GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet" на GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash acpi_backlight=vendor" или GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quie acpi_backlight=vendor" потом sudo update-grub no///
10:54<petn-randall>hell_: Are you running Kali or Parrot?
10:54<hell_>Parrot
10:54<petn-randall>!parrot
10:54<dpkg>Parrot OS (https://www.parrotsec.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution. It is based on Debian testing, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #parrot on irc.frozenbox.org or try the mailing lists at http://lists.parrotsec.org/listinfo. Also ask me about <based on debian>.
10:54<petn-randall>hell_: Try asking in their channel. ^^^
10:55<petn-randall>Good luck!
10:55<hell_>how to find one?
10:55<petn-randall>hell_: By reading the factoid I've pointed out to you.
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10:55<Blacker47>petn-randall, holly... that would be the next lottery numbers? *g*
10:56<dzodbok>???
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10:56<dzodbok>after installing the nvidia driver 340... is Not regulated by the brightness of the monitor.
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10:57<petn-randall>hell_: Don't PM me, damnit.
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10:57<petn-randall>hell_: *READ* the parrot factoid fully, please.
10:57<petn-randall>!parrot
10:57<dpkg>Parrot OS (https://www.parrotsec.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution. It is based on Debian testing, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #parrot on irc.frozenbox.org or try the mailing lists at http://lists.parrotsec.org/listinfo. Also ask me about <based on debian>.
10:57<hell_>ohhkk
10:58<petn-randall>hell_: It has info where to find the channel written in it.
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10:58<brenlae>i fixed it
10:58<brenlae>i had to change my sources.list file
10:58<brenlae>:)
10:58<hell_>tq
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10:59<EmleyMoor>Is there a way to get radvd to serve different values to different machines on the same interface?
10:59<dzodbok>parrot said read debian
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10:59<petn-randall>dzodbok: What are you talking about?
11:00<dzodbok>after installing the nvidia driver 340... is Not regulated by the brightness of the monitor
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11:01<petn-randall>dzodbok: What is not regulated?
11:02<dzodbok>nor any support. Why, then, is all created?
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11:02<dzodbok>The brightness of the monitor
11:02<EmleyMoor>dzodbok: Please explain your exact problem in complete sentences... what about the brighd
11:03<EmleyMoor>brightness of the monitor...?
11:03<petn-randall>dzodbok: I don't understand what your problem is. What is your native language?
11:04<dzodbok>after installing the nvidia driver. The brightness of the laptop monitor can not be adjusted.
11:04<dzodbok>rus
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11:05<petn-randall>!ru
11:05<dpkg>Это английскоговорящий канал, пожалуйста, говорите по-английски или посетите #debian-russian (irc.freenode.net) (Russian speakers please go to #debian-russian)
11:05<hell_>I'm not able to find channel
11:05<blast007>hell_: that's because you're on the wrong network.
11:06<hell_>please correct me
11:06<dzodbok>? рудз ьш
11:06<blast007>hell_: maybe you should learn how computers work first before diving into a penetration testing distribution.
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11:06<hell_>how to learn that?
11:07<EmleyMoor>hell_: Type /server irc.frozenbox.org then /join #parrot - that's as much as I'll tell you
11:08<jhutchins>hell_: Start maybe by googling IRC and find out what the various options are and how to use them.
11:09<hell_>whats IRC
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11:11<petn-randall>hell_: Use your search engine of choice how to find it. We're not a support channel for wanna-be script kiddies.
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11:12<hell_>then what is this for?
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11:12<petn-randall>hell_: This is a *Debian* support channel.
11:12<hjf288>surely that guy has to be trolling?
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11:13<petn-randall>hell_: The name of the channel, "#debian", might have given that away.
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11:16<EmleyMoor>Is there a forum/mailing list where I could give a detailed statement of the exact issue I am facing with Debian's networking and my phone? I am looking to get some help on this - unfortunately everything has been a bit amiss so far
11:18<blast007>EmleyMoor: does it only happen for the phone? because that'd be odd
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11:18<EmleyMoor>blast007: It may well happen for other things but its relevance is only significant for the phone
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11:19<blast007>but if it does, that makes the phone irrelevant to solving the issue
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11:20<EmleyMoor>blast007: Indeed, there will be a solution that fixes the problem that will be purely Debian
11:20<jhutchins>!mailing lists
11:20<dpkg>Mailing lists allow large numbers of people to share knowledge and experiences, these communications are also persistent. See http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/ . mbox archives are not provided via the web archive due to Listmaster team policy (Debian bug #161440), see <gmane>. For lists.debian.org questions, join #debian-lists on irc.oftc.net or e-mail listmaster@lists.debian.org. See also <list spam> and <subscribed>.
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11:33<hjf288>As 8.10 is currently shipping broken (https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=883938) where would be the best place to find out if a hotfix or new point release will be provided to correct it?
11:33<judd>Bug http://bugs.debian.org/883938 in src:linux (closed): «linux-image-3.16.0-4-amd64: Kernel panic on boot after upgrading to debian 8.10 kernel 3.16.51»; severity: grave; opened: 2017-12-09; last modified: 2017-12-18.
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11:40<Blacker47>hjf288, maybe you can find/use older 8.9 install media and then just update over internet.
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11:43<hjf288>@Blacker47 I can't find the 8.9 DI Netboot initrd.gz and vmlinuz/linux file
11:43<hjf288>I have found the netinst cds but the initrd is signifcantly smaller and it expects a CD
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11:43<Brigo>hjf288, try snapshot.debian.org
11:45<Blacker47>hjf288, so far i know it would only affect you if you need to fresh install on dual-socket machine.
11:45<hjf288>@Brigo - thanks buddy, thats perfect
11:45<hjf288>@Blacker47 - thats the actual use-case I have
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11:46<hjf288>I'm provisioning new builds on dual socket machines
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11:47<Brigo>hjf288, you can try torrent too.
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11:47<hjf288>Can't torrent but I have got what I need from the snapshot site (previous release)
11:48<Brigo>hjf288, good for you.
11:50<hjf288>Appreciate it, dunno how I missed that site
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11:50<hjf288>have a good one o/
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12:39<tda>does anyone know how to use megacli? it always gives error 0x01, even for simple commands like this one to get the time : ` sudo megacli -AdpGetTime -aN`
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12:44<musca>I get plenty of promising hits when I combine "howto" + " megacli" in a google search
12:44<musca>tda: may be you want to refine your question?
12:45<tda>they don't work
12:45<musca>sorry, my bad
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12:49<tda>maybe i am typing it wrong after. the syntax for this thing is very strange
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12:51<ryouma>is there anythign in debian that can, sort of like trickle, limit bw of curl, so that firefox does not time out when i upload with curl? i don't want to set a specific rate, because that would vary by isp whim and i don't have access to that. i just want to go, like, bwnice curl ...\
12:51<tda>ryouma: curl has a switch to throttle.... https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/39218/throttle-the-download-speed-of-wget-or-curl-while-downloading
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12:54<ryouma>tda: that requires setting a specific rate
12:55<blast007>is the bottleneck your LAN/WLAN connection, or your ISP connection?
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12:56<ryouma>blast007: it's probably my isp as it's prety low for upload
12:56<tda>you want to limit upload to 5GB?
12:57<ryouma>haha think k
12:57<blast007>ryouma: so then you'd want to set a specific limited rate. your local machine doesn't know how fast/slow your ISP's connection is.
12:58<ryouma>blast007: can't it just monitor the computer's bw use (firefox, say), and then say "i'd better be nicer"?
12:58<blast007>there *might* be something more complicated you can do with QoS, but I think it's easier to just set a limit
12:59<blast007>how does your computer know what your ISP's limits are?
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12:59<blast007>your computer just sees a symmetrical 100 or 1000 mbit link
13:00<ryouma>it doesn't, but if it knows firefox is downloading, then it can subtract that much from its current speed, or something like that. or even just do something kludgey like dropping speed by some factor.
13:01<ryouma>basically this is like process scheduling except currently the io goes to the most arrogant program
13:01<blast007>but the I/O limit isn't on your computer
13:01<ryouma>right. the issue i think is that firerfox can download as fast as it wants, but it can't send ack packets or http requests
13:02<ryouma>because curl is a hog
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13:04<blast007>if you don't want to set a bandwidth limit, then you could read up on QoS. I'm not familiar enough with that to know if it would help, and it might need to be applied at the router, not your computer.
13:04<blast007>this sounds interesting too
13:05<blast007>!wondershaper
13:05<dpkg>The Wonder Shaper is a script using the traffic shaping features of the Linux kernel to fix some problems, e.g. ensuring downloads continue at full speed while uploads occur at their maximum rate, keeping good interactive response times while bulk transfers are busy. Packaged for Debian, read /usr/share/doc/wondershaper/README.Debian after installation. http://lartc.org/wondershaper/ See also <lartc>.
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13:08<ryouma>502 Couldn't parse server headers but i will read the man page. i vaguely recall having tried it before.
13:09<ryouma>it's like trickly. specific rate.
13:09<ryouma>e*
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13:11<blast007>ryouma: you get a 502 when going to http://lartc.org/wondershaper/ ?
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13:12<ryouma>yes
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13:17<ivan>I moved from xenial to stretch and now my HP trackpoint/pointing stick is emitting keystrokes that aren't interpreted by xorg as mouse movements, is there something I need to install or configure for that to work?
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13:23<somiaj>ivan: what do you mean by move? You installed stretch on some system?
13:24<ivan>yeah, clean install
13:25<somiaj>just making sure. Anyways not that I know of, you can check the xorg log to see what xorg is actually detecting the trackpoint as. It might be you have to configure libinput or maybe disable it and use the old synamptic driver. I am not sure what xenial would have been doing.
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13:25<somiaj>if you have old xenial logs you could compare to try to figure out the difference
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13:26<ivan>as far as I can tell this particular trackpoint is handled entirely by the keyboard and it's up to xorg to interpret whatever crap is coming out of i8042 as mouse movement
13:26<blast007>ivan: is it a multitouch touchpad?
13:27<ivan>I would be just as happy to have it disabled since I don't use the trackpoint
13:27<ivan>blast007: no touchpad involved
13:28<blast007>oh, sorry, ready the original question wrong. so just the pointing stick.
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13:28<blast007>read*
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14:04<ivan>problem solved by turning the laptop off and back on
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14:11<Sansar>Hello, I am using debian 9 testing, it started to crash very frequently. Is there any package that can show crash reports with a GUI? If not, how can i know what causes system to crash?
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14:13<Gabriel_7>Sansar: /join #debian-next
14:14<Blacker47>debian 9 testing don't exist now.
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14:18<Sansar>thanks Gabriel_7
14:18<dboles>it probably still has 9 leftover on wallpapers etc though
14:19<sparky4>??
14:19<Sansar>please tell this noob, if I am on 9 testing, how shall i accurately mention what debian i am using?
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14:19<dboles>"testing"
14:20<dboles>because "9" implies the stable 9, codenamed "stretch"
14:20<Sansar>dbloes, so I should just say I am on "debian testing", correct?
14:20<dboles>yes
14:20<dboles>"testing" will always be the current development version
14:20<Sansar>thank you for clarification
14:20<dboles>same with "unstable" (a.k.a. "sid", forever)
14:21<dboles>which is an even more bleeding-edge development version
14:21<dboles>then there's experimental, but we mere mortals stay away from that...
14:21<Sansar>I did not expect much crash when I moved to testing but it seems that all is the fault of firefox 57
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15:01<Blacker47>how can i flush the dns cache? any tips on google don't work.
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15:07<ivan>Blacker47: do you have a dnsmasq running?
15:08<ivan>(or an unbound or bind? if you don't have these there is probably no OS-level caching)
15:09<Blacker47>not sure about...
15:09<Blacker47>ivan, dig and nslookup sees the new ip (from the home-router) but any browser inkl. links2 goes to old ip.
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15:10<ivan>browsers can cache dns entries until you restart them
15:10<Blacker47>i start them for every test new.
15:11<ivan>try resolving with ping instead of dig or nslookup
15:11<ivan>did you leave some old entries in /etc/hosts? :-)
15:11<petn-randall>Blacker47: Current browsers do their own (non-persistent) DNS caching to some extent. Restarting should help. It'll then query whatever resolver you have listed in /etc/resolv.conf. That might have still the old value cached, though.
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15:14<Blacker47>petn-randall, i test it with links too, restarted. ping goes to new ip. resolv.conf has ipv4&6 of the home-router and... 127.0.0.53 <-- this may be interesting.
15:15<blast007>did you refresh the page in links? that has some in-memory cache, at least.
15:16<Blacker47>blast007, i started links for first time in the last 2 years just before testing...
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15:17<Blacker47>but i see my failure... it resolves for domain.tld. for the www.domain.tld it gives old value (for nslookup).
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15:17<Blacker47>in the browser i tested with www prefix.
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15:18<Blacker47>so the home-router has old value for www.domain.tld cached. thanks.
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15:24<Sue>when we run 'apt-get update' we get error http://ppa.launchpad.net wheezy/main source
15:24<Sue>any idea?
15:26<D0x0S>Good way : https://debgen.xyz/ official source list
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15:26<petn-randall>sources.list generators are never a good idea.
15:26<petn-randall>!bat
15:26<dpkg>In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>.
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15:26<petn-randall>Sue: Can you provide *all* of the above in a single paste? ^^^
15:28<Sue>Sure, let me get tham
15:28<Sue>them
15:33<Sue>what is "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2"?
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15:34<Sue>what pkg do you need?
15:34<dboles>a command you run, substituting whatever packages you're not having success installing
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15:34<petn-randall>Sue: That part you can ignore, however 'apt-cache policy' from 3) is still important.
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15:35<jhutchins>man, roundcube could learn a LOT from how Drupal and WordPress manage their extensions.
15:36<petn-randall>jhutchins: Oh, people learn from wordpress. Maybe just as an example what /not/ to do.
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15:37<jhutchins>petn-randall: Yeah, I'm real skeptical about this REST API thing they're doing, opening up the whole site to the world.
15:37<jhutchins>hand-editing json files isn't exactly user friendly.
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15:42<nuclear>hi
15:44<Sue>I posted it on http://paste.debian.net
15:44<Sue>petn-randall, I posted "apt-cache policy" on http://paste.debian.net
15:45<Blacker47>you should provide the url to the posting.
15:45<Sue>Blacker47, http://paste.debian.net/1001550/
15:46<Sue>and http://paste.debian.net/1001551/
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15:57<Sue>dpkg, I sent the information to http://paste.debian.net/1001551/ and http://paste.debian.net/1001550/. Thanks
15:57<dpkg>You are person #1 to send an unparseable request, Sue
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15:59<Sue>dpkg, I just copy the output and paste to http://paste.debian.net
15:59<dpkg>Sue: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
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16:00<Sue>http://paste.debian.net/1001552/, dpkg
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16:01<Sue>dpkg, we run the command "apt-get update && apt-get -V upgrade" and got the errors
16:01<dpkg>You are person #2 to send an unparseable request, Sue
16:01<Sue>dpkg, what do you mean unparseable request?
16:01<dpkg>no idea, Sue
16:01<dboles>Sue: dpkg is a bot, no point talking to it unless you tell it a command
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16:02<Sue>dpkg, apt-get update && apt-get -V upgrade
16:02<dpkg>Sue: i haven't a clue
16:02<Sue>petn-randall, can you help?
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16:18<jhutchins>The problem is pretty obvious. ppa.launchpad.net. That's not a Debian source.
16:19<jhutchins>Sue: You're trying to install Ubuntu software on Debian.
16:19<tda>warranty, license, pact broken
16:20<jhutchins>Soon system broken.
16:21<jhutchins>Then again, I used to drive a Renault with a Ford carburetor.
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16:24<Sue>jhutchins, thanks much. We are on Debian to upgrade it. I just typed the command "apt-get update && apt-get -V upgrade" on Debian. so not sure why it tried to down load ubuntu software.
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16:26<jhutchins>Sue: Either in /etc/apt/sources.list or /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ you have a line that specifies launchpad. Remove that line, apt-get update.
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16:28<Sue>jhutchins, thanks. You mean in /etc/apt/sources.list or /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ you have a line that specifies launchpad and launchpad is for Ubuntu, therefore it causes the problem.
16:28<Sue>Thanks.
16:29<jhutchins>Sue: Exactly. There could be other problems, so let us know if that solves it.
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16:29<Sue>jhutchins, sure
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19:19<denis>ьл
19:19<somiaj>!ru
19:19<dpkg>Это английскоговорящий канал, пожалуйста, говорите по-английски или посетите #debian-russian (irc.freenode.net) (Russian speakers please go to #debian-russian)
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20:34<root__>hi
20:34<root__>anyone here
20:35<blast007>!ask
20:35<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
20:35<root__>how r u
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22:58<mrsenwell>Hi
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23:20<user>where can i see list of channels?
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23:21<Guest102>asdf
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