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#debian IRC Logs for 2017-12-21

---Logopened Thu Dec 21 00:00:14 2017
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00:37-!-Q-Master^Work is "Vladimir Berezenko" on #debianppc #debian-next #debian
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00:44-!-ach86292 is "KVIrc 4.9.2 Aria http://kvirc.net/" on #debian
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01:14-!-Strife89 is "Michael Carr" on #debian #debian-next
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01:29-!-yoh_ is "Yaroslav Halchenko" on #debian-gnome #datalad #debian #debian-med #debian-science #neurodebian
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01:29-!-jmccrohan is "Jonathan McCrohan" on #munin #multiarch #debian-offtopic #debian-boot #debian-qa #debian-gnome #debian-multimedia #debian-mozilla #debian-systemd #debian-ftp #debian-dpkg #debian-bugs #debian-mentors #debian
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03:46<uso>I had a working lxc installation, but now the creation of new containers fail. The problem may has been caused by the installation of libvirt, which is now removed again, but I'm not sure. I have reinstalled lxc and debootstrap, without effect. Any hints where to start to search for the problem? http://paste.debian.net/1001782/
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03:54-!-nowhereman is "Pierre Thierry" on #concatenative #emacs #git #erights #lisp #debian-kde #debian
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04:41<Guest190>anyone plz help
04:41<Nemoder>!ask
04:41<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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04:43<Guest190>i have problem with vmware workstation it telling me
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04:44<Guest190>kernel headers for version 4.13.0 not found
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04:44<ivan>perhaps, install some kernel headers?
04:45<ivan>likely linux-headers-amd64
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05:20<girlbeach>Hi, http://www.triphile.com/2017/12/only-for-you.html ,the first girl is me
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05:31<grummund>F UID PID PPID PRI NI VSZ RSS WCHAN STAT TTY TIME COMMAND
05:32<grummund>1 106 1644 1 20 0 2964 552 hrtime S ? 0:00 /usr/sbin/log2mail -f /etc/log2mail/config
05:32<grummund>0 0 1645 1 20 0 1744 424 n_tty_ Ss ? 0:00 startpar -f -- log2mail
05:32<grummund>is it a problem that log2mail leaves startpar hanging? and what to do about it?
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06:48<Guest195>ok
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08:58<grove>Does anyone know a guide to making lxc cntainers as an unprivileged user aimed towards Stretch? I can find some aimed at Jessie that all start out by installing some backports
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09:08<somiaj>well backport packages in jessie came from stretch, so just install the package from stretch
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09:20<uso>grove: the Debian wiki actually describes it for stretch, you just have to skip the part for jessie
09:20<uso>unfortunately the headlines of the sections are easily to overlook
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11:42<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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13:07<admins>Conky RSS https://distrowatch.com/news/dwd.xml
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13:29<mnuhmnuh>!ask
13:29<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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13:31<annadane>mnuhmnuh, they left a while ago
13:31<cousin_luigi>Greetings.
13:31<cousin_luigi>Are modules usually backported from the current or last stable kernel on debian?
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13:34<somiaj>cousin_luigi: kernels are, modules not so much.
13:34<somiaj>what module are you wanting a backport of?
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13:40<mnuhmnuh>annadane: i noticed. should have tried tab complete on their id to see if they were still here.
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13:42<annadane>i just hover over their names at this point as tab completion can lie
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13:42<mnuhmnuh>hover does nothing for me in irssi.
13:44<somiaj>annadane: it does? might be your client, tab completion should only complete names that are in the channel at the time you hit tab.
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13:45<annadane>somiaj, what i meant is more that if a user *is* in a channel and i autocomplete too short of letters then it will autotab (in hexchat) to somebody else's name instead of theirs
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13:45<annadane>if i type "s" for somiaj it'll return many possible names in a list format but 'so' may well just autocomplete to someone's name starting with so and ignore yours even if you're in the chan
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13:46<annadane>(by ignore i mean it stops listing and just assumes)
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13:46<somiaj>yea, mine usually uses the last person to speak or who I last talked to to help determine which name to use when there are more than one match.
13:47<annadane>anyway i just got tired of that and now just use mouse hovering
13:47<cousin_luigi>somiaj: leds-apu
13:47<cousin_luigi>somiaj: I suppose I'll have to do it on my own.
13:47<cousin_luigi>bbl
13:47<somiaj>cousin_luigi: would a backport kernel suit your needs.
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13:47<cousin_luigi>somiaj: I'd rather stay stable.
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13:47<somiaj>cousin_luigi: but in general not much gets backported to the stable kernel, somethings do, but not to much, and usually this is done at the upstream level, not debian.
13:48<cousin_luigi>somiaj: Actually it's even oldstable in my case.
13:48<cousin_luigi>So I guess I'm asking the impossible.
13:48<somiaj>well there is a 4.9 kernel for oldstable if you really need to support the hardware. I agree best to stick with the offical kernel, but may not always work with the hardware one has.
13:49<mnuhmnuh>somiaj: or, people got so used to relying on XP long after it should have been dead and buried ...
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13:55<aversario>hi guys, does debian use the same KDE Plasma sources as KUbuntu?
13:56<aversario>or, should I expect the same level of translation to my language in Debian and KUbuntu?
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13:57<cousin_luigi>mnuhmnuh: oldstable is still supported and the reason why I'm not upgrading is that I would need to rework a custom script that gives me heartburn just to think of
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13:58<Marcus135>anybody have a guide for setting up openvpn on debian?
13:58<Marcus135>i tried https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-an-openvpn-server-on-debian-8 and it was almost success
13:58<Marcus135>i could connect to openvpn and it said it assigned an ip to me
13:58<Marcus135>however i cant view any webpage (timeout)
13:59<Marcus135>no errors in the logs
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14:00<aversario>is there any article I should read on that?
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15:04<mnuhmnuh>aversario: debian is ordinarily behind upstream. *buntu was among the first to rebel against that. i doubt the two would be concurrent vers.
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15:08<aversario>mnuhmnuh: thank you, I guess I'll try Kubuntu and see
15:08<somiaj>the difference is more likely release cycles, kubuntu will keep relasing more often than debian, while debian stable's version is frozen
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15:53<willow>sup guys
15:53<willow>got debian running on a 13 inch 3000x2000 device
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15:54<willow>first off, how can i turn off this annoying sound when i tru to navigate left at the start of a text field or right at the end
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15:54<willow>and as i understand it, debian uses gnome out of the box, so how can i set the scaling to a factor of 2, or to 200%
15:55<willow>this thing is unnusable unless I've got my face 3 inches from screen
15:55<annadane>use xrandr for scaling
15:56<willow>will try that, whatever it is, ty
15:56<annadane>willow, "man xrandr"
15:56<annadane>you should be able to list available resolutions and pick one which is good for you
15:58<willow>I wanna keep the high res, but scale everything
15:58<willow>is that possible?
15:58<annadane>not sure. i'll let someone else answer.
15:59<somiaj>there is a setting in gnome somewhere to scale text. By default font is 96dpi, but there is a scale feature. I don't use gnome so unsure where to find it, and maybe you need to tweak tool to modify it
16:00<willow>i increased font scale in settings, but its now big text against super tiny buttons
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16:01<somiaj>ahh, you want to scale the widgets too. I'm unsure on that, I only know about the font setting
16:01<willow>yea.. panels and everything...tiny :( unusable
16:01<somiaj>https://developer.gnome.org/gtk-tutorial/stable/x645.html -- found that, though seems like it requires a config somewhere.
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16:02<somiaj>https://www.pcworld.com/article/2911509/how-to-make-linuxs-desktop-look-good-on-high-resolution-displays.html -- this seems to suggest you can edit the scaling under the tweak tool, under windows
16:03<somiaj>seems you can increase the window scaling.
16:03<willow>lol halp `xrandr --output --scale 2x2
16:03<willow>xrandr: unrecognized option '2x2'`
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16:03<willow>@somiaj, first thing i tried
16:04<somiaj>note that may only scale gtk3 things, if you have other software, you may ahve to set up scaling for each software you use, such as your browser.
16:04<willow>the schema they use did not exist
16:04<willow>no time to dig into all that
16:04<willow>hmmm
16:04<willow>so there is no systemwide output renderer
16:06<willow>"--scale xxy
16:06<willow> Changes the dimensions of the output picture. Values superior to
16:06<willow> 1 will lead to a compressed screen (screen dimension bigger than
16:06<willow> the dimension of the output mode), and values below 1 leads to a
16:06<willow> zoom in on the output. This option is actually a shortcut ver‐
16:06<willow> sion of the --transform option.
16:06<willow>"
16:06<willow>yet my command doesnt work
16:06<willow>says '2x2' is not an option
16:06<annadane>willow, for future reference use paste.debian.net for long pastes over ~2 lines
16:07<willow>ookie
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16:07<willow>anyone know whats wrong here? `xrandr --output --scale 2x2
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16:18<somiaj>the manpage says you want values less than 1 to lead to zoom in on the output
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16:19<somiaj>willow: note you ahve to actually state what --output you are using, use xrandr to get the name of the output, it needs to be --output <name> --scale 2x2, but you want a zoom in so --scale 0.5x0.5
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16:51<willow>beautiful
16:51<willow>thanks, @somiaj
16:51<willow>that worked
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16:54<willow>aww @somiaj its not persistent
16:54<willow>its reset at start up
16:54<willow>is writting a script to run it at boot a feasible option?
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16:58<willow>and it prevents my cursor from easily moving between the vm guest and host. gotta manually unbind it now
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17:09<Marcus135>anybody around with a clue about setting up an openvpn server on debian? i can connect to it and get an ip assigned but all webpages timeout
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17:13<jotarokujo>lol anyone here?
17:13<lamby>On a Debian livecd that is missing wireless hardware. Installed firmware-iwlwifi via a USB stick but can't seem to retrigger a faux-boot scan of the hardware. (Can't restart, obviously; livecd!)
17:14<jotarokujo>whoa actual people!!!
17:15<tda>hello human. i am a human, too. nice to meet you.
17:16<jotarokujo>Its totally great to meet you :O
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17:26<lambda>why does tor not work on here?
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17:31<somiaj>lambda: to many people abuse it, if you register your account and get a user mask (ask #oftc) then you can join
17:31<somiaj>so there are ways around it, but it does creating an account with #oftc
17:31<lambda>I have an acount with oftc
17:32<lambda>Do I just log in?
17:32<somiaj>then go ask in #oftc and get a user mask for your account
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17:32<somiaj>you will also have to have a user mask setup, so that way you don't have tor in your hostname, but you have a usermask (like mine) that is assoicated with your account
17:32<somiaj>and then yes, you'll have to login to get the usermask set
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19:16<diagnosticsCD>I downloaded debian-live-9.3.0-amd64-mate.iso and want to create a bootable live usb flash drive. What is the minimum recommended size for the usb flash drive?
19:18<Brigo>diagnosticsCD, i guess the size of the iso
19:19<somiaj>the .iso is a full image that can be copied to the usb drive, so at least the size of the .iso
19:19<somiaj>diagnosticsCD: is your goal to install debian or to run a live image?
19:20<diagnosticsCD>for the time being, just to run live image
19:20<somiaj>just checking, the offial installer iamges are the suggested way to install debian.
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19:21<diagnosticsCD>The image size is 2.0GB and i have a 2GB usb flash drive
19:22<somiaj>going to be a tight fit, hopefully your drive is big enough.
19:23<somiaj>i.e. at the GB level, rounding could be an issue, plus the GB of the image size is probably 1024 bytes per kilobyte, and flash drives usually use 1000.
19:24<diagnosticsCD>so my flash drive size is smaller than the iso
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19:25<somiaj>might be, again you may want to get the actual number of bytes, it might be close.
19:25<somiaj>do you have a dvd you could burn this too, or a bigger flash drive?
19:26<diagnosticsCD>i'll use an 8 gig flash drive
19:26<petn-randall>Well, it'll throw an error if it can't complete copying. You might not want to do it in vain, though. :)
19:26<somiaj>according to the debian site, the mate iso is only 1.9G
19:26<somiaj>it might just barely fit.
19:27<somiaj>the xfce and lxde ones are slightly smaller, if you don't want to just use your 8 gig drive
19:27<somiaj>(at 1.8 gb)
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19:37<diagnosticsCD>ok thanks
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20:24<mnuhmnuh>wow. i've had no trouble w my ancient 4 g usbkeys. my 8 G key is overkill. well, i think. the iso i dl'd to install was 4 G, i'm sure.
20:30<duncan>Reasonably large, fast, and reliable USB keys are really cheap, nowadays.
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20:36<mnuhmnuh>duncan: yeah, i envy you buyers today. 32 G for ten bucks? my 4 G keys were 5 bucks each.
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20:44<dvs>mnuhmnuh, the DVD image is 4.7GB. It won't fit on a 4GB USB drive.
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20:49<mnuhmnuh>dvs: may have changed since: "3804708864 2017-07-12 14:25 debian-9.0.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso"
20:51<somiaj>I don't think it has changed that much, cdimage.debian.org reports 3.7G for the current dvd1 image, though dvd2 and 3 are 4.4G
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20:51<somiaj>wonder if they keep the first one a little small with 4G (the imporper G) usb sticks in mind
20:53<mnuhmnuh>better to fit dvd-1 on older 4g usbkey
20:53<mnuhmnuh>smart.
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20:55<jrollins>does anyone know how to get dpkg-source --build to unapply patches after it's done?
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20:59<somiaj>jrollins: would manually using quilt work for you?
21:00<somiaj>I use dpkg-buildpackage and thought they were unapplied after, but don't quite recall the details, don't use it that often.
21:00<jrollins>somiaj: if there's no a way to get dpkg-source to cleanup after itself then i guess i will resort to that
21:01<jrollins>there is stuff in the dpkg-source man page about unapplying patches after it's done, but it's not doing it and i can't figure out how to make it do it. i figured there was just some trick i'm not aware of
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21:01<jrollins>or bugs
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21:01<mnuhmnuh>drat. i use jigdo. so, resultant image size is obfuscated. ignore me. http://cdimage.debian.org appears irrelevant.
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21:02<mnuhmnuh>jrollins: "unapply patches" - ?!?
21:02<jrollins>mnuhmnuh: yes
21:03<somiaj>jrollins: is the patch system for this package using quilt?
21:03<somiaj>jrollins: with the slight variants in the different building tools, unsure on the details, but from my understanding patches should be unapplied after the packge is built.
21:03<jrollins>somiaj: the source format is 3.0 (quilt)
21:04<jrollins>somiaj: that's what i thought also, so i'm not sure why dpkg-source isn't doing it
21:05<mnuhmnuh>jrollins: that just sounds counter-intuitive, from my elderly perspective. may be perfectly reasonable, but i hope not.
21:05<jrollins>mnuhmnuh: when building packages it's a common operation
21:05<mnuhmnuh>weird.
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21:13<somiaj>mnuhmnuh: debian packages are upstream source (with no modification) + debian patches. The build process applies the patches, builds the package and then removes the patches (well should) to keep the source code in line with upstream.
21:15<somiaj>jrollins: I don't know the details well enough to guess why it isn't removing them, but just using quilt pop -a should get you back to no patches.
21:15<somiaj>did you try runing quilt pop -a (maybe there is some issue with hits?)
21:15<jrollins>somiaj: yeah "quilt pop -a" does what i need. i was just hoping to have dpkg-source handle it for me
21:16<jrollins>also removing the whole .pc tree
21:16<jrollins>basically restore the source to it's original state
21:17<jrollins>somiaj: ultimately i'm just trying to build the .dsc without building the whole package. if you have any suggestions for alternative methods i'd also be open to that
21:18<jrollins>another question:
21:19<jrollins>i have the dh --parallel option specified, but the build is only using a single core "make -j1". how do i tell it do use all available cores?
21:19<somiaj>jrollins: maybe ask in #packaging
21:19<jrollins>somiaj: thanks. is that just '#packaging' or '#debian-packaging'?
21:20<mnuhmnuh>somiaj: tx for explain, forgot about that. makes sense.
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21:21<somiaj>jrollins: just #packaging
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23:54<Fudge>will standard Stretch boot on an old P4
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23:55<Fudge>Google Mini-0020
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