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#debian IRC Logs for 2017-12-22

---Logopened Fri Dec 22 00:00:02 2017
---Daychanged Fri Dec 22 2017
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00:36<Miten>which tool to use in android sdk to download like sdk manager
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03:24<keenan>hi. just installed debian stretch on an acer aspire es 14 with intel audio. the laptop has just one audio jack for input/output/headset, but currently pulseaudio doesn't detect the input jack, just the internal mic. the speaker correctly switches to headphones when i plug in headphones, but the internal mic doesn't switch when i plug in an external mic. help would be appreciated.
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03:59<joelkraehemann>hi all
04:00<joelkraehemann>I have a test that fails on i686
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04:05<joelkraehemann>__GI___pthread_mutex_lock (mutex=0x1) at ../nptl/pthread_mutex_lock.c:67
04:05<joelkraehemann>67 ../nptl/pthread_mutex_lock.c: No such file or directory.
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04:05<joelkraehemann>on x86_64 it just passes :/
04:07<joelkraehemann>I am running buster in a VM
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06:38<cousin_luigi>Greetings.
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06:40<cousin_luigi>It's unclear to me how to build a dkms package locally. I mean, everything I need should be in place, I'm not sure how to proceed.
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06:41<jm_>you mean using the dkms command?
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06:45<cousin_luigi>jm_: No, I'm creating the .deb
06:45<cousin_luigi>I have very limited experience with debian packaging
06:45<cousin_luigi>Does foo-dkms.deb require special parameters for debuild?
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06:47<jm_>it shouldn't, looking at one simple package it uses dh_dkms - what do you use to build the deb?
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06:53<cousin_luigi>jm_: Various incantations of debuild. Right now it's failing because of "dpkg-source: error: can't build with source format '3.0 (quilt)': non-native package version does not contain a revision
06:53<cousin_luigi>I used ddcci-dkms as reference and followed it pretty closely
06:53<jm_>cousin_luigi: I meant in the debian/control file
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06:54<cousin_luigi>jm_: I'm not sure what I should be looking at...
06:54<jm_>uhm debian/rules file obviously
06:54<jm_>cousin_luigi: yeah that one is using dh too
06:54<cousin_luigi>jm_: Should I change the version number somewhere?
06:55<cousin_luigi>Or better, what versioning scheme should I be using?
06:55<cousin_luigi>It's a hodgepodge of kernel modules I collected for my own use.
06:55<jm_>cousin_luigi: hmm maybe, this sounds very similar https://github.com/jamesdbloom/grunt-debian-package/issues/23
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06:59<jm_>this might also help https://wiki.debian.org/Projects/DebSrc3.0
06:59<llandon>is there any alternative to mp3gain under active developement?
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07:02<jm_>as in volume normalizer?
07:03<cousin_luigi>Perhaps someone should port it to the current mpg123
07:04<cousin_luigi>I tinkered with it a while back, without success.
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07:05<llandon>jm_: yes, I wanna normalize a bunch of mp3's, in ideal I could create defaults from and use these settings for later titles.
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07:08<jm_>llandon: this post mentions audacity can do it https://askubuntu.com/questions/246242/how-to-normalize-sound-in-mp3-files
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07:09<cousin_luigi>jm_: I suspect audacity won't do it in batch.
07:09<jm_>cousin_luigi: apparently it can
07:10<cousin_luigi>Nice.
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07:11<llandon>thanks I already thought about audacity, but it has something from to take a sledgehammer to crack a nut. Nevertheless I will give it a try
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07:12<jm_>:)
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07:31<llandon>jm_: compared to my experience with mp3gain audacity is quite slow, but does what it's supposed to do
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07:32<cousin_luigi>How do I disable signing when building a package?
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07:36<cousin_luigi>The answer was a manpage away:)
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08:47<nooob>Hello, pretty noob, how shall I turn off my laptop in debian? Most of my friends offer "sudo shutdown -h now" but it looks like a quite long one for a simple turn off laptop. Is there any other commands to power off the laptop?
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08:48<leatherface>nooob: sudo halt
08:49<tt>you mean poweroff. but the shutdown command is really the proper way.
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08:50<nooob>tt: true, poweroff completely everything. So there is no other way than that long "sudo shutdown -h now" command?
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08:51<tt>no I meant leatherface meant poweroff; poweroff is a command, and will work
08:51<tt>you could make an alias or something for the shutdown command
08:52<tt>they do the same thing afaik but traditionally didn't
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10:06<mimico>i'm running debian (jessie). I got a new external HD, WD My Passport. Yesterday i reformatted it from NTFS to FAT (using the disks gui). Everything seemed okay. Today, I can't boot my computer without the HD being connected. And everytime I unplug and plug back in, the drive letter advances... started as sdc, then sdd, now sde. I would like to be able to boot my computer without the external hard drive connected, for obvious
10:06<mimico>reasons. Any ideas or walk throughs would be appreciated.
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10:08<blast007>can you elaborate on "can't boot"? does it start to load Debian at all without the external drive attached?
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10:13<girlbeach>Hi, http://www.triphile.com/2017/12/only-for-you.html ,the first girl is me
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10:16<mimico>@blast007, so, I think there was a message that it was looking for sdc
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10:17<mimico>so maybe it was an attempt at booting, but it wasn't going into the gui.
10:18<blast007>had it reached the grub boot loader and started to show text from the linux bootup process?
10:18<blast007>maybe you have the partition listed in your /etc/fstab and it's waiting for that partition to be available before completing the boot process
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10:21<mimico>@blast007 https://paste.ubuntu.com/26233456/
10:22<blast007>you have /dev/sdc listed there, so that's why
10:23<mimico>do I just delete it?
10:23<blast007>you can comment them out for now by adding a # to the start of those last two lines
10:23<mimico>okay, I'll do that and see if I can restart.
10:23<openlydeveloped>mimico: I believe blast007 is correct (can't truly confirm without a boot log dump). But I did have this problem not but a few days ago. The problem was in my /etc/fstab file. Check for any typos. You can also check to see how soon it is being mounted and change when it gets mounted to a later point in the boot stage.
10:24<mimico>@openlydeveloped How do I get the bootlog dump?
10:25<openlydeveloped>mimico: just seen the log. Try commenting them out as blast007 said.
10:25<mimico>k. brb (after hopefully successful restart)
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10:26<openlydeveloped>(by log I meant your /etc/fstab file) and alright
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10:29<mimico>@blast007 @openlydeveloped seems to have worked. Thank-you!
10:29<blast007>great :)
10:29<openlydeveloped>mimico: that's awesome
10:29<openlydeveloped>mimico: now you can try booting it later in the boot process...
10:30<blast007>generally you don't need to have external drives in your fstab. they'll automount when plugged in.
10:30<openlydeveloped>agreed
10:30<mimico>@blast007 why did it get listed in there?
10:30<mimico>(I didn't put it there)
10:31<mimico>or maybe I mean "how", not "why"
10:31<blast007>might have done that if you mounted it through the disks GUI
10:31<mimico>ah, I did!
10:31<openlydeveloped>blast007: I just know that some people like the /etc/fstab to handle it (idk or fully understand why).
10:32<mimico>well, I'm relieved it's all good now. Thanks again!
10:32<blast007>no problem, have fun :)
10:32<openlydeveloped>mimico: Gnome Disks usually tends to put it into your /etc/fstab automatically on rare occasions. I've noticed this myself but can't reproduce it every time.
10:32<mimico>ok
10:32<openlydeveloped>but definitely enjoy your Debian system :)
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10:35<mimico>I will :)
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11:29<tharkun>I need to pull a file out of an ipad what is my weapon of choice?
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11:30<grawity>gvfs-afc perhaps
11:31<tharkun>googling
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11:40<user16>hi
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11:45<trump>fuck off
11:45<trump>help me
11:45<annadane>you'll need to be more specific.
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11:55<ch1pp3r-g7>hello
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12:10<ch1pp3r-g7>#SAVEpalestine
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12:11<annadane>this is a debian support channel, not a palestine discussion channel
12:11<ch1pp3r-g7>testing bro
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12:12<ch1pp3r-g7>thanks for u respon
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12:26<Zimsky>'palestine' is the file name, and we're trying to write the buffer to disk
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12:35<fiete>Hi there, I am unable to start unbound when apparmor is enabled is someone here who can help me debugging this?
12:36<grawity>look at dmesg & syslog to see which apparmor rules are being violated
12:37<fiete>audit[1065]: AVC apparmor="DENIED" operation="create" profile="/usr/sbin/unbound" pid=1065 comm="unbound" family="unix" sock_type="stream" protocol=0 requested_mask="create" denied_mask="create"
12:37<fiete>thats the first one.
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12:37<fiete>So how should i read this, to understand what I need to change?
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13:00<jhutchins>!apparmor
13:00<dpkg>AppArmor (Application Armor, formerly SubDomain) provides pathname-based mandatory access control, a file-system neutral alternative to <SELinux>. Previously maintained by Novell and part of the Linux kernel since version 2.6.36. http://wiki.debian.org/AppArmor http://apparmor.wiki.kernel.org/ #apparmor on irc.oftc.net.
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13:07<fiete>jhutchins: thanks
13:07<fiete>digging through the wiki now
13:07<renair>hi
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13:09<renair>who can explain how IRC works?
13:09<renair>and what reasins to use it
13:10<fiete>renair: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Relay_Chat
13:11<grawity>it's a chat app from the 1980's
13:11<renair>thanks
13:12<renair>I'm watching mr. Robot
13:12<renair>and wonder why they using IRC
13:12<renair>is any advantage?
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13:14<jhutchins>renair: Over what? IRC is a chat app. There are many different communities that use it, inclulding the OS Software community.
13:14<grawity>you get internet cool points
13:15<grawity>and well,
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13:15<grawity>there's a ton of actual IRC *apps* to choose from
13:16<grawity>you want to use Whatsapp or Skype or such, you have to use their app, end of story
13:16<grawity>you want to use IRC, there's a *ton* of different apps you can use
13:16<renair>I've undestand!
13:16<renair>Thanks)
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13:17<grawity>(also a ton of different IRC servers/networks, each with its own rules and people and channels)
13:17<renair>in fact IRC is just a parent for modern apps like Messenger, Skype etc.?
13:18<renair>yes, it's huge advantage
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13:19<somiaj>I don't think it is a parent, maybe ideas were used in creating other messeinging apps, but it wasn't like they took irc code and adopoted it.
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13:20<somiaj>also this is a debian support channel, not really a what is irc. If you want to find out more about this network, /j #oftc
13:20<grawity>yeah it's not a direct ancestor, but it's definitely older than most of them
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13:39<jhutchins>IRC may have been the first live group messaging app. The concept of sending a message to another user goes back pretty much to the first interconnection and was part of very early time sharing systems that allowed multi-user logins.
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13:39<jhutchins>grawity: You get cool points for using irssi. weechat not so much.
13:40<ch1pp3r-g7>hello wrold
13:40<grawity>I'm 100% sure it is not the first such app
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13:41<jhutchins>grawity: Pretty sure it is, it goes way back. I first used it on a campus-wide DEC VMS.
13:41<somiaj>wonder if write was one of the first, though I have never really used an original unix machine.'
13:42<somiaj>or I guess talk
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13:42<grawity>"IRC was created by Jarkko Oikarinen in August 1988 to replace a program called MUT (MultiUser Talk)" "found inspiration in a chat system known as Bitnet Relay" riiiiiight.
13:42<jhutchins>write/wall wasn't really two-way. talk wasn't multi-user.
13:42<devnull>is there an alt ctrl f key type shortcut that i can use to get to a shell during the debian 9.3 installer?
13:42<jhutchins>grawity: There you go actually looking it up.
13:42<grawity>yeah but ytalk was
13:43<devnull>i'm having issues with loading non-free firmware off of this usb stick and need to inspect why
13:43<grawity>devnull: regular (Ctrl+)Alt+F2 should work, no?
13:43<grawity>though the shell is very barebones, IIRC
13:44<devnull>grawity: it's not :\ i figured the same thing
13:44<jhutchins>Turns out my problem with roundcube wasn't with roundcube after all. dovecot wasn't able to create lockfiles in /var/mail as the user.
13:44<ch1pp3r-g7>Client: HexChat 2.12.4 • OS: Parrot "intruder" 3.10 • CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-3227U CPU @ 1.90GHz (1.90GHz) • Memory: Physical: 3.6 GiB Total (2.9 GiB Free) Swap: 3.7 GiB Total (3.7 GiB Free) • Storage: 0 bytes / 0 bytes (0 bytes Free) • VGA: Intel Corporation 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller @ Intel Corporation 3rd Gen Core processor DRAM Controller • Uptime: 5h 19m 52s
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13:44<devnull>grawity: it could be this laptop keyboard etc... x1 carbon 5th gen. i might need drivers etc for it to work?
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13:45<jhutchins>devnull: Keyboards are keyboards. You might not have the shortcut keys, but the main keys don't need a special driver.
13:45<grawity>devnull: graphical or textonly installer?
13:45<devnull>i get stuck at the detect network hardware screen where it prompts me for missing firmware, i can't pass it without saying no.. if i say no, i can cancel and spawn a shell, but i can never get back to this screen once i've said no
13:45<devnull>graphical
13:45<grawity>devnull: have you tried the semi-unofficial iso which has nonfree firmware built in?
13:45<devnull>grawity: i was thinking about that next
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13:47<devnull>jhutchins: what would you suspect for ctl-alt-f's not working in my case? we're positive it should at the detect network hardware part of the installer
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13:54<jhutchins>devnull: Since normal keys are working (you can enter the location), I would say the installer's just not listening at that point.
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13:55<devnull>naughty installer. spank.
13:55<devnull>ok on to the non-free one i guess
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14:13<fiete>devnull: not sure how the keyboard is on the x1 but perhaps you need to press fn so that the f2 key works
14:13<fiete>i think that it was that way on my x260
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14:16<devnull>fiete: thanks for the tip, i got the non-free to get that wifi working. it's annoying that they don't ship the rj45 dongle with these
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16:09<EmleyMoor>I want to enable VNC-based screen sharing on my moin desktop session. I have it selected in the preferences but it can't be accessed whether inside or outside my local network - getting "Connection refused". Using gnome. Any idea what may be wrong?
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16:20<EmleyMoor>Hmmm... just got whitescreened
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16:25<EmleyMoor>Right... where was I?...
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16:26<EmleyMoor>I'm trying to set up VNC-based screen sharing of my main GNOME desktop. I have enabled it, with a password, in the settings, but connecting to it is refused, inside my network, let alone outside.
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17:16<EmleyMoor>Hmmm... port 5900 is listening
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17:19<EmleyMoor>OK, it accesses on the local machine
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17:26<EmleyMoor>Ah, it seems to be down to the client versios
17:26<EmleyMoor>version*
17:27<EmleyMoor>ANyone know a good Android client for accessing VNC 3.7+?
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17:40<VVR>hi
17:40<EmleyMoor>OK... latest... bVNC reports: "The VNC Server is trying to use Anonymous Diffie Hellman ciphers which are not supported on your Android device." It then coes on to say "If using GNOME's Vino VNC serwer, you can disable AnonTLS by running the following command in a terminal then restarting: 'gsettings set org.gnome.Vino require-encryption false'." - I've tried this, it stops vino listening altogether!
17:40<EmleyMoor>Can someone advise how I go forward?
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17:50<EmleyMoor>Any good place for Android device support?
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18:34<aklile>hello
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18:38<EmleyMoor>Hmmm... seems OK if you use dconf-editor to set it
18:38<EmleyMoor>Just need to decide which client to keep on the phone now
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19:30<weazle>hi
19:30<weazle>anyone in xmas drinkin mode ;ready?
19:31<weazle>tough crowd
19:31*weazle throws everyone a beer
19:31<weazle>yay!
19:32<weazle>or a non-alcholic drink
19:32<somiaj>this is a debian support channel, there are other social channels
19:32<weazle>aight which ones..sorry for that..
19:32<weazle>i'll be off to another channel
19:33<somiaj>#debian-offtopic and #moocows I think
19:33<weazle>ah thanks and keep up the good work!
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19:39<weazle>llright i said drunke n things on #moocaws kthx!\\
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20:09<gustavo>Hola
20:09<somiaj>!es
20:09<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
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20:09<psych>hello
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20:10<xormor>!fi
20:10<dpkg>fi is probably Finland, or the end of an if block, or an abbreviation for First-In....as in FIFO First In First Out, or /join #debian-fi
20:11<somiaj>xormor: you can also /msg dpkg factoid
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20:11<psych>i am still trying to set up my game server. it shows up in LAN but not in the public server list. it could have to do with port forwarding, but i forwarded all the necessary ports. i ran netstat to see what port is listed for the game server client, and it's different than what was configured. it's a UDK game server running on Debian Linux.
20:11<gustavo>Socialism doesn't work
20:11<psych>when i use CanYouSeeMe.org and try the port listed in netstat, it says "success". the other ports show "connection refused".
20:12<xormor>gustavo, Freenode: /join ##politics
20:12<weazle>k good plan
20:12<weazle>thx
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20:13<weazle>seems that people refer to all to cool chans from here
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20:13<somiaj>don't need to let us know, as that is off topic here
20:13<weazle>thx!
20:13<weazle>will switch!
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20:19<psych>if i can see it over LAN, and i can't see it in public list, and testing with the tool at CanYouSeeMe.org shows different responses for ports that are forwarded vs not forwarded... what am i not checking?
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20:23<psych>my port is 7777, my queryport is 27015. netstat -tlp shows me this: tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:27960 etc., etc., (separate screen so i'm not typing all that shit out cmon man...)
20:23<psych>point is netstat shows that's not the queryport or port i picked.
20:24<psych>either way i forwarded it, and the server still does't show in public
20:25<psych>just to further test, i tried the command "open <my-external-address>" ("open" is a command for connecting to a server it seems) and it didn't work. but it did work when i put the lan ip
20:25<psych>so that must mean ports aren't getting forwarded.
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21:27<siery>Hey guys! I switch to Debian almost a year ago from XUbuntu, and I just love it.
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21:27<siery>There is just one problem I can't fix witch is kinda pain in the ass.
21:29<siery>The type comletion, it works well, but does not work for apt-get or wajig when I want to comlete package name.
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21:30<siery>It's probably becouse I didn't figure out how to set type comletion for root, and only root has access to the packages list.. am I right?
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21:32<siery>Can someone help me to understand how does this work?
21:32<tt>no, all users can read/query that stuff
21:32<tt>you only need to be root to make changes
21:32<tt>I can't really help you w/ the advanced completion stuff though
21:33<siery>Oh, you are right, one does not need sudo privilage to search the packages
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21:34<siery>Anyways, the auto-completion does not work for me there.. Is it normal with startup configuration on Debian 9? I remember having the samme problem with 8..
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21:35<tt>I don't think that's setup by default, but I don't know much about it.
21:35<tt>the thing you're looking for is 'bash completion' (unless you were using zsh), maybe you can google it
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21:36<siery>zsh is for sh shell ya?
21:36<tt>bash and zsh are both shells, and both offer advanced completion stuff.
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21:38<somiaj>siery: are you using an old $HOME dir from previous versions
21:38<siery>yes.. Im using bash for all of my terminals. Thank you
21:38<somiaj>tab completion works for most things by defailt in both jessie and stretch.
21:39<somiaj>also what things are not auto-completing, tab completion is a lot based on the prgram you type, i.e. apt will tab complete package names, if done at the right spot
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21:42<siery>I did not replace the $HOME directory with an old one. What you mean, what cold be the diference?
21:42<siery>could*
21:44<somiaj>give an example of what exactly is not working as default.
21:45<somiaj>I just mentioend that I had to switch to a default .bashrc after upgrading my system since 2006 to get tab-completion to work
21:45<somiaj>as in if you are using old configurations for bash, things may not work as default, since you have put in a customized config
21:45<somiaj>also do you have the package bash-completion installed?
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21:50<siery>eg. typing apt-get install per[TAB], take no effect. Yes I have bash-completion installed and upgradet. I mentione before thet auto-completion works for everything else, just no packages.
21:51<siery>I mean, thouse not installed, that I type in 'apt-get install'
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21:53<somiaj>siery: what are the contents of /etc/bash_completion
21:54<somiaj>by default the bash completion stuff is commented out in /etc/bash.bashrc on my system, that could be the issue.
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21:55<tt>somiaj: aha, I didn't think it worked by default :)
21:56<tt>nevermind, it totally works by default here.
21:56<somiaj>tt: though it is enabled in /etc/skel/.bashrc -- so it isn't enabled system wide by default, but if using the default .bashrc it is
21:56<somiaj>but all it takes is someone using a custom .bashrc, or using a login shell that doens't source .bashrc to not have it enabled
21:58<somiaj>I put source ~/.bashrc in my ~/.bash_profile to ensure both my login and interactive shells are the same, but this is not default
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21:59<siery>there is one line in /etc/bash_completion: . /usr/share/bash-completion/bash_completion
21:59<somiaj>siery: can you put your .bashrc at paste.debian.net
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22:00<somiaj>siery: also you are using an interactive shell (such as xterm or some other termular emulator) or a login shell, such as logging in to a standard tty linux console
22:02<siery>I use many shells, and In all of them I experience the samme problem
22:03<siery>here is my .bashrc: http://paste.debian.net/1002067/
22:05<somiaj>run this in your current shell, 'source ~/.bashrc', then try tab completion
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22:06<siery>I use tty to do some sort of things, xterm-256color emulator from xfce and Guake (quake like terminal) with is 8 color xterm emulator.. and some others
22:07<somiaj>if that dosen't work, type 'source /usr/share/bash-completion/bash_completion' then try again.
22:07<siery>wow... that worked, you are a wizard somiaj
22:08<siery>thank you, that make my work day tomorrow much easier ^^
22:08<siery>or at list a little bit more enjoyble c:
22:11<somiaj>which one worked?
22:11<siery>the first one 'source ~/.bashrc'
22:13<somiaj>this is because you are using login shells and not interactive shells
22:13<somiaj>if you want all shells to be the same, add '[ -f ~/.bashrc ] && . ~/bashrc' (without the quotes) to your ~/.bash_profile
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22:21<siery>hmm.. what you mean with ~/bashrc? I don't have such file in my user directory
22:21<somiaj>sorry, ~/.bashrc, typo on the second part
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22:23<somiaj>this is just running the command 'source ~/.bashrc' that fixed your issue for login shells
22:23<somiaj>in bash, . is short for source
22:23<somiaj>so '. ~/.bashrc' is the same as 'source ~/.bashrc', the first part just checkst he file exists, just to be safe
22:24<siery>oh.. that Im familiar with, thank you, I been just searching all docs for this 'source' comman ^^
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22:26<somiaj>source is part of bash, man bash for more info on it
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22:26<somiaj>(really it it just tells bash to run this file as if it were a bash script and doesn't need the +x bit on it)
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22:32<siery>hmm.. I have only the ~/.profile file not ~/bash_profile, shall I create one or just use the one I have?
22:33<tt>if ~/.bash_profile does not exist, it will use ~/.profile instead
22:33<tt>but, if you later create a ~/.bash_profile for some reason, it will suddenly start ignoring your ~/.profile
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22:36<siery>in my profile file I have already a script that does exacly the same thing:
22:36<siery>if [ -n "$BASH_VERSION" ]; then
22:36<siery> # include .bashrc if it exists
22:37<siery> if [ -f "$HOME/.bashrc" ]; then
22:37<siery> . "$HOME/.bashrc"
22:37<siery> fi
22:37<siery>fiyy
22:38<tt>you didn't set your shell to "sh" did you?
22:38<siery>.. you have an idea why it could not work? I run . .profile now in new shell and type-completion start workin
22:39<siery>$SHELL = /bin/bash
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22:43<somiaj>siery: depends, read man bash for how config, also .profile is read by other shells, which is why I use .bash_profie for this
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22:47<siery>It seem to work, I just create ~/.bash-profile and pass the configuration in there
22:47<siery>Thanks for help guys!
22:48<somiaj>not .bash-profile, .bash_profile
22:49<siery>ya, this one c:
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22:52<siery>relly freindly comunity, I will come here more often so next time I hope to share some experience ^^
22:53<siery>happy hacking for u!
22:53<Zimsky>happy easter
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