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00:15<pabs>looks like GREP_COLORS='mt=:sl=01;31' does what I want
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01:11<andrsussa>hello everyone, I have been having problems with my wifi adapter for some months now. It starts OK, but after and hour or so (sometimes less) it drops and does not come back unless I restart the system. My biggest lead are several log messages in dmesg with the following: https://pastebin.com/p1Q1RaFY (many of them) saying "ath phy0 chip reset failed" I have found reports about this online but can't find a clear solution. What I found mostly
01:11<andrsussa>recommended to downgrade the kernel but these are old solutions and do not know if are still relevant. Could this really be a driver+kernel bug or is my wifi adapter slowly dying?
01:12<somiaj>what version of debian are you runing? What kernel? What wifi chipset?
01:13<andrsussa>Debian Stretch, Linux debian 4.9.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.9.65-3 (2017-12-03) x86_64 GNU/Linux
01:13<andrsussa>03:00.0 Network controller: Qualcomm Atheros AR9285 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01)
01:13<somiaj>is this one of the atheros that doesn't need firmware?
01:14<andrsussa>somiaj, mmm... don't really know, how can I check if I have firmware for it installed?
01:14<somiaj>andrsussa: lspci -nn (can you get me the pciid of that card)
01:15<somiaj>or just double check it is 168C:002B
01:16<andrsussa>yes it is exactly that (PCI-Express) [168c:002b]
01:17<somiaj>so that device dosen't require additional firmware, but I do belive there is firmware flashed on the chipset. Maybe goto atheros and see if you can figure out if the firmware is out of date, and if there is a way to flash it (be careful here as flashing things can be dangerous)
01:18<somiaj>I do know there is open firmware you can put on that device, but I know very little about it. Anyways, my two guesses (though poor) would be, maybe outdated firmware on the device, and atheros will have an update that will improve preforamce, some driver issue with that device, or as you said it could be going bad
01:18<somiaj>andrsussa: what kernel did the sites you find suggest you downgrade too?
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01:20<andrsussa>somiaj, ok, I am checking the Atheros site to see if there is something I could update. Regarding the downgrade, found stuff like this: "I have also updated my kernel to 3.11.2-1, it is working fine now." But, as I said, mostly old posts, I thought maybe I could do a downgrade but not that far in old versions...
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01:20<girlbeach>Hi, http://www.triphile.com/2017/12/only-for-you.html ,the first girl is me
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01:21<somiaj>andrsussa: yea those are kernel versions about the time the support was added, you would think bugs like this have been worked out.
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01:22<somiaj>andrsussa: but I would see if there are any firmware updates from atheros. You could try a 4.13 kernel from stretch-backports, but due to the age of this device, I doubt that would have much affect.
01:24<andrsussa>somiaj, mmm... ok, will check that out and see what I can try... it may just be a hw issue after all... Thank you!
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01:29<somiaj>andrsussa: it appears qualcom doesn't offer support/drivers to end user, who manufactured your laptop?
01:30<somiaj>anyways, i'm unsure if there would be any firmware updates for the card or not, my guess is hardware issue, and maybe just get a new wifi card if it keeps acting up.
01:31<andrsussa>somiaj, Asus
01:32<pabs>looks like there is at least one other person with this issue: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-firmware/+bug/1251256
01:33<somiaj>seems people even have this issue in windows. https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-hardware/atheros-ar9285-adapter-constantly-turns-off-on/584acf0b-382e-438f-91b6-b032fe45e3b9?auth=1
01:34<andrsussa>oh... so... yeah... it's hardware :S
01:34<somiaj>andrsussa: check asus webpage for your laptop model to see if they have any firmware updates for your bios, that may also affect the wifi card.
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01:35<somiaj>but it could just be issue with some of these chipsets, it doejsn't seem overly common, but others are having it and I"m not seeing any solutions
01:36<somiaj>hmm, unsure why linux-firmware would be an issue here though, this card shouldn't be using any userland firmware.
01:37<pabs>probably people decided that Ubuntu was at fault and just filed it there
01:37<somiaj>well reading though it some said upgrading the linux-firmware package fixed the issue, so maybe that is a different issue
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01:37<pabs>shame Asus doesn't seem to be on fwupd.org
01:38<jess>what
01:38<somiaj>oh wait, the person with the atheros never got the problem fixed, they just hijacked a unrelated bug report
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01:40<andrsussa>gonna try to update the BIOS and hope for the best
01:42<somiaj>I would also see if asus has any updates specifcally for the wifi card
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01:48<andrsussa>somiaj, it seems that there's one on wifi but for windows...
01:49<somiaj>ahh so only driver updates not firmware, well maybe if there is something it is included in the bios. At least usb wifi dongles aren't too spendy if you really want somethign more relaible
01:51<andrsussa>somiaj, true, haven't thought about getting a dongle... If the problem remains I will, it's getting annoying. Thank you again
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02:14<stripe>Hi all, anyone know an easy way to autorun a program at boot with root privileges? (vpn client) cheers.
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02:29<somiaj>stripe: write a systemd unit file
02:30<somiaj>though for a vpn client, might be best to hook it to a post-up script of yoru interface
02:30<somiaj>that is if you are using the interfaces file
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03:25<stripe>somiaj, thanks mate, still getting used to systemd, but will read up on it, cheers
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03:31<somiaj>in this case adding a hook to your interface is probably a better approach
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03:34<stripe>somiaj, thanks again for pointing me in the right direction, it seems a lot difirent to writing a simple script (which I did in the past)
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06:27<Quelo>I have a problem with debian 9 on my very old laptop IBM Thinkpad R40 with embedded graphics card radeon 7500 I think
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06:29<Quelo>lspci returns 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RV100/M6 [Rage/Radeon Mobility Series]
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06:31<Quelo>I've installed firmware-amd-graphics that contains the driver but after booting I have a black screen
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06:32<Quelo>the driver is radeon/R1200_cp.bin but after boot I have a black screen
06:33<Quelo>the driver is radeon/R100_cp.bin but after boot I have a black screen
06:34<Quelo>there is anyone can help me?
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06:35<tomg>maybe check thinkwiki.org for your model
06:35<tomg>you can try booting in single user mode and then deleting the radeon firmware and see if that's the problem
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10:11<outofgum>hello, just installed debian 9 for the first time
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10:11<outofgum>works fine but everything appears a little sluggish
10:11<outofgum>am running cinnamon
10:11<outofgum>also video playback is lagging somewhat
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10:12<outofgum>am currently linux illiterate
10:12<outofgum>any suggestions?
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10:12<tt>what kind of hardware?
10:12<outofgum>will try and find the specs
10:13<tt>you can `cat /proc/cpuinfo` for CPU, and `free -m` to see how much RAM.
10:13<tt>`lspci` will likely list your graphics card.
10:13<outofgum>gforce gt560, corei7 2630qm@2ghz, 16gb ram
10:14<tt>welp, so much for my theory (really slow CPU)
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10:14<outofgum>i dont know, perhaps its in my mind..
10:15<tt>you can run `top` and see if any processes are using abnormal amounts of CPU
10:15<tt>it's sorted by CPU use by default
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10:15<outofgum>low load on cpu
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10:15<outofgum>might be me..
10:15<outofgum>will try for a while
10:16<outofgum>debian is looking really good so far
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10:18<lord_rob>tt: the cpu is good enough, really. I have a more powerful processor on my laptop but my desktop has not such a fast CPU. Above all, he has 16gb of RAM
10:18<tt>RAM isn't going to matter much.
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10:19<tt>but yes, it's certainly not the CPU.
10:19<outofgum>think was my fault, my apologies
10:19<tt>what'd you do?
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10:19<outofgum>was running demo video in YT
10:20<outofgum>think it might have been the video coding
10:20<outofgum>again, apologies
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10:20<tt>yeah it's pretty demanding, the web video.
10:20<tt>should have seen that in top though
10:20<albator234>bonjour
10:21<albator234>des français parmi vous ?
10:21<lord_rob>albator234: go to #debian-fr
10:21<albator234>ok
10:21<outofgum>thanks for response, like i said, very happy with what i am seeing so far, will most likely stick to debian, marry Christmas
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12:17<landley>Where do the debootstrap people hang out?
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12:18<landley>I ask because I"m trying to do http://landley.net/aboriginal/about.html#hairball in https://github.com/landley/mkroot
12:18<annadane>landley, if you have a support question and you're using stable then this is the right place to ask
12:19<annadane>otherwise i tried looking for a mailing list for debootstrap and the closest i found is debian-boot@lists.debian.org
12:19<landley>I have an insane low-level question about manually populating a rpository server with packages I built against a different libc on a hardware platform you hadn't necessarily previously supported using a possibly nonstandard toolchain.
12:19<landley>As described in the first of those two URLs, but that's years old.
12:20<landley>Just cycling back around to actually trying to do it. :)
12:20<landley>debian-boot. Hmmm...
12:20<landley>https://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/
12:20<landley>Thanks.
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13:00<minikdo>Hi, while doing automated install Debian 9.3 netinst I get "Invalid passphrase WPA/WPA2" in Configure the network without even selecting a network.
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13:09<minikdo>netcfg: INFO: Network chosen: <unexisting-network>. Proceeding to connect.
13:14<jhutchins>minikdo: Something may be wrong in your automation.
13:15<minikdo>jhutchins: I wasn't even asked to provide the url for my preseeding file
13:15<minikdo>it's happening in the beginning
13:16<minikdo>Detect network hardware and Configure the network
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13:42<tt>hrm, I want to use gpg-agent as my ssh-agent, which is already configured in Debian and working fine
13:43<tt>but I would like it to actually act like ssh-agent, and only cache my key in memory, not imported permanently into GPG or whatever it does
13:43<tt>hrm, maybe that defeats the purpose and I should just run both agents?
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13:54<sacioz>chivas...
13:55<sacioz>hello all
13:55<sacioz>bye for now
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17:06<mom>hi my hp envy 7640 stopped working . . . tried removing and re-adding no luck . . . when i try printing a test page it just says "processing" and nothing happens . . . are there steps i could do to troubleshoot
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17:07<mom> i tried running hp-setup from the command line and it said warning: GUI Modules PyQt4 and PyQt5 are not installed
17:07<mom>so i did interactive mode -i
17:09<Quelo>Hi to all
17:09<Quelo>I have a problem with the graphics card of my very old IBM thinkpad R40 laptop
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17:10<mom>Processing - Processing page 1...
17:10<mom>just stays there
17:10<Quelo>It is a radeon mobility M6 Ly 7500
17:11<Quelo>I have installed firmware-amd-graphics package that include the R100_cp.bin drivers for this radeon card but when Xorg starts I have a black screen
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17:12<Quelo>there is anyone can help me?
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17:12<Quelo>I'm running the last debian 9
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17:14<Quelo>no errors in /var/log/Xorg.0.log! :(
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17:40<_Quelo_>Hi
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18:07<jhutchins>!radeon
18:08<jhutchins>I guess dondelelcaro and dpkg are both on Winter break.
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21:39<jonsnow>ghbjb
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21:39<jonsnow>hello
21:39<jonsnow>this is test
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21:39<Phryq>hi, I've got a dumb question, but I can figure out how to run a program from terminal; I've been googling it
21:40<Phryq>specifically I'm trying to run VeraCrypt
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22:02<Phryq>I should type ./veracrypt, yes?
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22:18<znoteer>Phryq: if veracrypt is in your current working directory, and has the executable bit set, and you have permission to run the executable, then, yes, that should run the programme. If your current working directory is not where the veracrypt executable lives, either it has to be in your path to run (without the "./") or you have to type the full path to the executable.
22:19<Phryq>thanks
22:20<znoteer>yw
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22:56<dondelelcaro>jhutchins: yeah, working on bringing it back
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23:18<diagnosticsCD>i have an iso image named debian-live-9.3.0-i386-mate.iso, will i be able to do a custom text install just like the one you can perform with CD1? i want to just install the base system *without* X, reboot into a console and then with a wired internet connection install X, icewm and all the apps that i desire
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23:22<awal1>diagnosticsCD, where you got that image?
23:22<diagnosticsCD>from the debian website
23:22<awal1>I you can get the netinstall one?
23:22<somiaj>diagnosticsCD: the live images can be booted directly into a debian installer.
23:23<somiaj>but it is usually suggested you use an offical installer, not a live image, though it is the debian installer, and you need to boot into it (not install form the live enviorment)
23:23<awal1>i personally never used a special image like that one (an image with a specific DE); but I guess you'll be able to chose if you want a DE or not in tasksel step
23:24<awal1>if yes, then just unselect all, except 'standard debian utilities' , I think is called, and continue
23:25<somiaj>well that is the live image, but it does boot into teh debian installer, and I belive you can not select a de at the end.
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23:34<diagnosticsCD> you are right, i can not select a de nor a custom text install with the aforementioned live image. will perform the install with CD1
23:34<diagnosticsCD>thanks
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