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00:36<over>merry christmas
00:38<over>i was having some problems last night with repos.i managed to get them fixed but atm im trying to install guitarix via the software centre and i'm getting asked to add debian-main-stable repo to do so
00:38<over>just wanna know if this is recommended
00:40<somiaj>I don't use the software center, but have you ever used internet sources? Do you say maybe only have the cd sources from your install? That is the only reason I can think of why this would be asking.
00:41<somiaj>I personaly would a) look at apt-cache policy and b) manually add the sources.list.
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00:43<over>yeh the software centre does seem broken as it works fine from the terminal, i do have the online sources active
00:43<over>i think ill just avoid it
00:44<somiaj>I saw someone else mention this too. I'm not quite sure what the issue is, but most just use the command line tools for this type of stuff
00:44<over>sweet, thanks for that
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05:45<SonySebixxon>Hello, I've got an issue with NVIDIA GPU drivers on Debian Buster. I've described it here: https://www.reddit.com/r/debian/comments/7lq6aa/problems_with_debian_bustersid/
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05:54<somiaj>read the xorg log to see if the nvidia driver is loading.
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05:54<SonySebixxon>okay
05:54<somiaj>It should without using any xorg.conf file, but you could write a simple 3 line xorg.conf file to force the nvidia driver to be used.
05:56<somiaj>SonySebixxon: http://paste.debian.net/1002317/ -- that xorg.conf is all one should need to force xorg to use the nvidia driver
05:57<somiaj>what sort of hardware is this? Is this one of the optimus laptops that has both the intel and nvidia card? Or is this a system with just a nvidia card?
05:57<SonySebixxon>Just a system with a nvidia card
05:58<somiaj>well I think xorg should try to detect nvidia drivers automatically now, but that is all I use to force my xorg to use the nvidia driver.
05:58<SonySebixxon>Okay, I'll reboot now and see if the new xorg.conf changed somethin
05:59<somiaj>disabling lightdm and using startx to debug things can help out a lot, and paste another Xorg.0.log file from a failed attempt
05:59<somiaj>if it fails
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05:59<SonySebixxon>ok
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06:01<SonySebixxon>LightDM crashed
06:02<somiaj>well first, 'lsmod | grep nvidia' is the nvidia module even loaded?
06:02<somiaj>also get a log file from the failed xorg
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06:03<SonySebixxon>`lsmod | grep nvidia` does nothing
06:03<somiaj>okay, the nvidia module is not loaded, most likely a problem building it.
06:04<somiaj>make sure you have the nvidia-kernel-dkms package installed and linux-headers-amd64
06:04<piper>SonySebixxon: i would try apt purge $(dpkg -l | awk '/nvidia/{ print $2 }'); rm -f /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf; apt update; apt install nvidia-driver nvidia-driver-libs nvidia-kernel-dkms
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06:05<SonySebixxon>Here's the log file: https://paste.debian.net/1002318/
06:05<somiaj>also wonder if the nvidia drivers are having trouble building with the 4.13 kernel, unsure there.
06:05<somiaj>and we should move debian testing support to #debian-next
06:06<SonySebixxon>Alright, should I change the channel?
06:06<somiaj>I'm in both, so you can, but anyways that isn't the log from the failed attempt.
06:06<SonySebixxon>oh
06:06<SonySebixxon>Could I get any clue where it is?
06:06<somiaj>but it looks like the problem is with the nvidia driver, try to reinstall the nvidia driver, or what does, 'dpkg-reconfigure nvidia-kernel-dkms' do
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06:07<piper>i have Kernel: 4.14.8 NVIDIA 387.34
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06:09<somiaj>,v nvidia-kernel-dkms
06:09<judd>Package: nvidia-kernel-dkms on amd64 -- wheezy/non-free: 304.131-1; wheezy-backports/non-free: 340.102-1~bpo70+1; jessie/non-free: 340.102-1; jessie-backports/non-free: 375.82-1~deb9u1~bpo8+1; stretch/non-free: 375.82-1~deb9u1; stretch-backports/non-free: 375.82-9~bpo9+1; buster/non-free: 384.98-3; sid/non-free: 384.98-3; experimental/non-free: 387.34-1
06:10<somiaj>then I guess it should work, so yea figure out why the module isn't loading
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08:00<brian_>hello
08:00<brian_>any one who knows how to make a persistent metasploit connection
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08:25<mingyang>hi
08:25<mingyang>everybady
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08:37<ubolena>Hello, I am interested in debian testing, and i have installed it before. At the time kodi was only available for stable and unstable, I am still interested in this distro, but according to the packages kodi still is not available for debian testing. Is there any reason for this? I find it kind of weird and am wondering if there is any reason for this? A solution is ofcourse to compile it myself, but I just wanted to be sure there is no way to get the
08:37<ubolena>binary packages for testing...
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08:39<Brigo>,v kodi
08:39<judd>Package: kodi on amd64 -- jessie-backports: 16.1+dfsg1-2~bpo8+2; stretch: 2:17.1+dfsg1-3; sid: 2:17.3+dfsg1-5+b3; jessie-multimedia: 5:14.2+repack-dmo1b2; stretch-multimedia: 5:17.6-dmo1+deb9u1; buster-multimedia: 5:17.6-dmo6; sid-multimedia: 5:17.6-dmo6
08:40<Brigo>ubolena, it is in buster-multimedia, i think it's a unofficial repo about multimedia software with license problems.
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08:40<Brigo>http://www.debian-multimedia.org/
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08:41<ubolena>If I set-up that repo, will the packages from the repo conflict with my current installed packages? I really dont like installing 3rd party repo's...
08:41<Brigo>ubolena, sorry, http://www.deb-multimedia.org/
08:41<Brigo>ubolena, i don't think so.
08:42<ubolena>Okay, thanks. I guess I will use that repo. Thanks
08:42<ubolena>Happy holidays everyone!!!
08:42<Brigo>!deb-multimedia.org
08:42<dpkg>We recommend against using deb-multimedia.org; these unofficial packages are known to cause many hard to debug problems. They are not in Debian either because the they are poor in quality or for legal reasons. See http://deb-multimedia.org/ or ask me about <dmm stretch>, <dmm jessie>. See also <dmm list>, <dmm mirrors>, <dmm pinning>, <why not dmm>, <dmm remove>.
08:42<ubolena>ah shit
08:43<ubolena>So I should just compile kodi?
08:43<Brigo>i don't know why kodi is not in debian anymore.
08:43<ubolena>It is in debian, but not in debian testing...
08:44<Brigo>you can check the package tracker: https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/kodi
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08:44<ubolena>The package tracker says it was removed on 2017-09-05
08:45<ubolena>from debian testing
08:46<Brigo>ubolena, yes, it looks like the package needs some work.
08:46<ubolena>Okay then. I will compile it for now, and stay on that version for now, and switch to binary when they have fixed it.
08:47<Brigo>ubolena, it looks like the best plan.
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08:47<ubolena>Okay, Thanks. Happy Holidays!
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10:59<user4>yo im stranded with only a terminal and am talking voer irssi how do I install the sway wm in debian
10:59<user4>I removed x11-common >.>
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11:05<user4>am bad with computer plz 2 help
11:06<user4>need nice tiling wayland window manager cannot google no console
11:06<user4>cannot google only console*
11:06<user4>accidentally remove x11-common
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11:18<coruja>user4, afaik the only ways to use wayland are by installing kde or gnome, or use the desktop independent weston wm
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12:22<crash_bandicoot02>hi i have problem with flash player im using firefox 52.5.2 i cant stream any live videos with flash player
12:22<crash_bandicoot02>any help
12:22<crash_bandicoot02>?
12:29<somiaj>how did you install flash? It is not available in stretch anymore?
12:30<crash_bandicoot02>somiaj, not stretch im using debian jessie
12:31<somiaj>I know newer versions of chromium require me to explicity allow flash, maybe check if firefox now has a similar feature
12:31<somiaj>basically flash is dying, and most people are glad.
12:32<somiaj>but did you check about:plugins, is flash actually lloading?
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12:35<somiaj>what does update-flashplugin-nonfree --status give you, make sure you have the current version onyour system
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12:35<crash_bandicoot02>somiaj, it say flash is out of date so i download the tar file and do what they said but it continue with the issue
12:36<somiaj>https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/why-do-i-have-click-activate-plugins
12:36<somiaj>see if the script still works, try to run that with --install instead of --status, this should force flash to update
12:36<somiaj>you might have to manually download it
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12:38<crash_bandicoot02>somiaj, what does manually mean?? cause i paste the libflashplayer.so into the /usr folder and still with the issue
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12:39<dragomir>Hi, I'm trying to figure out how to calibrate touchscreen in my x200 tablet. I tried following xinput_calibrator but that brought no effect.
12:40<dragomir>https://paste.debian.net/1002356/ is 99-calibration.conf, http://paste.debian.net/1002357/ is 70-wacom.conf in usr/share/x11/xorg.conf.d
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13:32<somiaj>crash_bandicoot02: it means download the flashplayer lib from adobe and copy it to the right spot. Read that link, you need to explicity tell firefox to run flash.
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16:31<annadane>tom_, you're already in #debian
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16:32<tom_>aha so far so good ;-)
16:33<tom_>it' been YEARS. installed Stretch (yaj!) but the thing with key-signed packages... while not able to use apt!
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16:35<tom_>it says debian server keys are includes already... still get the " 'http://ftp.debian.org/debian stretch/updates Release' heeft geen Release-bestand.Bijwerken van de pakketlijst uit een dergelijke pakketbron kan niet veilig gebeuren en is daarom standaard uitgezet."
16:36<annadane>i think i actually know what error message that is, but for future reference
16:36<annadane>!localized errors
16:36<dpkg>To provide command output in English instead of your native language, set your locale to an English one (e.g. C) prior to running the command, e.g. "LC_ALL=C apt-get -f install".
16:36<tom_>man 8 apt-secure did not make me smarter yet
16:36<grove>!nl
16:36<dpkg>Voor Nederlandstalige hulp met debian kunt U terecht in #debian-nl. For help with debian in Dutch, you can join #debian-nl.
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16:37<tom_>the English command will do, thank you
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16:37<tom_>am I using the wrong url, or is it a key problem?
16:38<grove>As I believe I recognised the language I just thought you should have both options
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16:57<tom_>no_pubkey while updating from http://ftp.debian.org/debian stretch. what am I missing?
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17:01<ach>apt-get install --reinstall gnupg
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17:12<tom_>reinstalled. still same errors in synaptic and apt-get update. no upgrades to install
17:13<ach>you have to run it like gnupg --key
17:13<ach>i don't know for sure
17:13<tom_>just gnupg --key ?
17:14<ach>the key should be global for programs who use
17:14<ach>is like gnupg key is stored for programs who use
17:15<tom_>no gnupg command, probably gpg. option --key is abigouus
17:18<ach>yo i have forgotten and in some i want create the key got known fomr that error was not done by my computer so you have to man gpg and create a pubkey
17:19<ach>normal in unix when you do gpg it creates it keys
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17:32<ach>gpg --generate-key
17:35<jhutchins>Shouldn't that be the repo sending the public key?
17:36<tom_>installed dirmngr. Why need I install several packages, just to eneble upgrading? something is clearly wrong here.
17:37<somiaj>tom_: first ftp.debian.org is a bad mirror to use, try deb.debian.org
17:37<tom_>What should I type in sources.list to use the built-in keys
17:37<tom_>aha
17:37<somiaj>tom_: what are the permissions of /etc/apt/trusted.gpg
17:38<somiaj>tom_: note the mirror issue has nothing to do with your problem, it is is just a bad mirror
17:39<tom_>deb deb.debian.org/ stretch main contrib non-free
17:39<tom_>would that work?
17:39<somiaj>!stretch sources.list
17:39<dpkg>A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for "Stretch" has three lines: "deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ stretch main" "deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security stretch/updates main" "deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ stretch-updates main". Be sure to run «apt update» after editing sources.list. Also see <deb-src> <contrib> <non-free> <stretch/updates> <stretch-updates> <mirrors> and "man sources.list".
17:40<somiaj>tom_: that is for your sources.list, but still that may not fix your problem. What are the permsions I asked for? ls -l /etc/apt/trusted.gpg
17:40<ach>no you need one before
17:41<somiaj>jhutchins: with apt now using the sandbox user _apt, there have been users having trouble with pubkeys if the user _apt can't read them.
17:42<tom_>rw-r-r
17:42<tom_>and my shell is root
17:42<somiaj>tom_: best to paste the whole thing, but okay that looks fine.
17:43<somiaj>tom_: it doens't matter about your shell, apt now uses a sandbox user _apt for somethings.
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17:43<somiaj>tom_: anyways, if changing your sources.list to what dpkg said doesn't fix your problems. Delete /etc/apt/trusted.gpg, then follow the instructions under method #1 to regenerate it: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/110500/how-to-regenerate-etc-apt-trustdb-gpg-on-debian
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17:43<tom_>I did sources.list as recommended
17:44<tom_>apt-get update still does NO_PUBKEY complaints
17:45<tom_>ok, I'll try that
17:45<somiaj>tom_: ls -ld /etc/apt /etc (make sure everyone can read and excute the directories and read /etc/apt/trusted.gpg to ensure the sandbox user can read the keys. But provided the permsisions are correctly, I've seen method #1 work for a few users already who have had similar issues.
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17:47<tom_>looks very good...
17:47<tom_>now running secruity updates...
17:49<tom_>ok thanks guys&girls, this one was verrrrrry hard to find!!
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17:50<tom_>now, how about using a local mirror?
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17:51<somiaj>what do you mean about using a local mirror?
17:52<somiaj>or what do you want your local mirror to do?
17:53<tom_>is'nt it godd manners to us a local mirror in stead of deb.debian.org?
17:53<somiaj>!deb.debian.org
17:53<dpkg>deb.debian.org is a mirror network that is backed by international content delivery networks and for most users, this is the most reliable <mirror> to use in the <sources.list>. From Debian 9 "Stretch" onwards, apt queries SRV records in DNS which then send it off to a CDN. Older apt will get an HTTP redirect from deb.debian.org to the same CDNs. See http://deb.debian.org/ for more details.
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17:53<somiaj>tom_: local mirror usally means a mirror on your network.
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17:53<somiaj>tom_: deb.debian.org is a good I don't care what mirror I use, but pick one close to my using geoip info mirror.
17:53<somiaj>!ftp.debain.org
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17:54<somiaj>!ftp.debian.org
17:54<dpkg>ftp.debian.org is not the principal mirror for Debian. It is just one mirror that uses bandwidth that was donated to the Debian project; you are kindly requested not to use this mirror but to instead use a mirror that is closer to you, ask me about <mirrors>. See http://www.debian.org/mirror/ftpmirror#wherefrom for more information.
17:54<tom_>You can tell it's been a while since I read linux books...
17:54<somiaj>that is not really a good mirror to use, that is a single mirror that may not be that close to you.
17:54<somiaj>(the ftp.debian.org one)
17:55<somiaj>now if you have debian on multiple machines and want to be nice to your mirror and not download packages more than once, setting up apt-cacher-ng on one of your machines is kinda like having a local mirror on your network.
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17:58<tom_>that's not the case...Ok i''l stick with the deb.debian thing. thanks, good evening and good night
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18:01<agadirfreneuse>bonjour
18:01<somiaj>!fr
18:01<dpkg>Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr. Francophone users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr.
18:01<somiaj>agadirfreneuse: though you can ask questions in english here
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20:45<annadane>can someone just remind me what the libreoffice theme package name syntax is again
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20:45<annadane>i want to say it's libreoffice-theme-foo but i could be wrong
20:45<somiaj>there really isn't themes, but you can get libreoffice compiled with different widget sets.
20:46<annadane>i was looking for appearance changes
20:46<annadane>which actually i maybe don't need to install a package for it specifically
20:46<annadane>little bit of xy problem happening here, sorry
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20:47<somiaj>and maybe starting with apt search libreoffice would be a start. But I think you are thinking of libreoffice-gtk2 or libreoffice-gnome, libreoffice-gtk3, hmm thought they had a qt widget set too
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20:47<somiaj>anways, if you want to use gtk3 themes, use libreoffice-gtk3
20:48<somiaj>I see a libreoffice-kde
20:48<annadane>"libreoffice-style-foo" is what i was looking for actually
20:48<annadane>but that may be widgets
20:49<somiaj>ahh I didn't know about the styles, that may use libreoffices internal widget set with different styles.
20:49<somiaj>you could also just use gtk2/3 and have it use your gtk2/3 theme
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20:50<somiaj>hmm, also unsure if a 'symbol style' is a full widget set or just the symbols/icons.
20:51<annadane>anyway gtk themes is definitely the right direction to look in
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21:59<moni>hi!
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22:00<moni>hello
22:00<moni>Is there anyone?
22:01<moni>握草!这……是看不到消息的吗?
22:01<dvs>nope
22:01<dvs>!ask
22:01<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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22:02<annadane>!zh
22:02<dpkg>如果您想要以中文得到 Debian 相關的協助,請加入 irc.debian.org 或 irc.oftc.net 上的 #dot 頻道,連線與加入頻道的方法請參閱 IRC 程式之相關說明,或於網路上搜尋。謝謝您的合作!
22:02<annadane>moni, ^
22:02-!-chomwitt [~chomwitt@2a02:587:dc08:a00:5d62:de18:5084:4933] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
22:02<annadane>or if you'd like to ask in english we can of course answer you as well
22:03<dvs>oui
22:03<annadane>shush
22:03<dvs>heh
22:04<moni>Thank you very much for your answer! I used this application for the first time, and some of the steps I didn't understand.
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