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#debian IRC Logs for 2017-12-29

---Logopened Fri Dec 29 00:00:26 2017
00:04-!-dboehmer_ [~quassel@p5DD9D099.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #debian
00:04-!-dboehmer_ is "Daniel B\xF6hmer,,," on #debian
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01:14-!-marcus is "Marcus Lundblad" on #debian #osm.se-spam #OSM.se #debian-gnome
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01:19<doctor>hi I have been having this problem with file-roller or archiver, I just recently installed non-free archives so I could load up p7zip-rar but I still cannot open a .rar and see the contents of a .rar file or extract any of the files
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01:28<doctor>in either Xarchiver or Archive Manager
01:32<doctor>nm chose unrar it solved my problem
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01:35-!-Delta-One is "Patrick Franz" on #debian-kde #debian #debian-next
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03:43<maxpower>hi guys
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03:49<maxpower>with debian stretch, the 'route' command has been replaced with 'ip route', but but it does not give me the same result, the route command show the name of gateway, ip show display only the numeric gateway
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03:50<maxpower>with the command: ip route, there is a way to show the name of the gateway...?
03:50<maxpower>thnaks
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05:05<Orbitrix>sup eses
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08:33<BR0K3D>whois adriana
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08:58<alexnemov>Hi, I have a problem of Xorg randomly segmentation fault, log indicating issues with libinput.
08:58<alexnemov>It says: (EE) libinput bug: udev device never initialized (/dev/input/event4)
08:59<alexnemov>Then backtrace involving libinput_drv.so and libinput.so.10
08:59<alexnemov>The end of Xorg.0.log looks like this: http://paste.debian.net/1002811/
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08:59<alexnemov>(The log file is too long for debian pastebin.)
09:00<somiaj>what version of debian are you running?
09:00<alexnemov>Debian stable
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09:01<somiaj>do you know what input device /dev/input/event4 is? Could ti be bad hardware?
09:01<alexnemov>According to Xorg.0.log, event4 is 'TPPS/2 IBM TrackPoint'
09:02<somiaj>you can try looking at /dev/input/by-id and /dev/input/by-path
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09:02<somiaj>if you unplug this device does it work?
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09:03<somiaj>oh is the track point a little nub on your keyboard? wonder if you can disable this in your bios/firmware
09:04<alexnemov>I think it's possible, I'll reboot and test for a while
09:04<somiaj>alexnemov: the other option is disable libinput and see if the old xorg input method works, and then file a bug
09:05<somiaj>but if you aren't using the track point, disabling it might at least get your system working
09:05<alexnemov>And I found it strange that event1 (Synaptics touch pad) and event4 (IBM Trackpoint) do not show up in /dev/input/by-id
09:05<alexnemov>They only appear in Xorg.0.log.
09:06<alexnemov>Oh, they are present in /dev/input
09:06<alexnemov>somiaj, thanks, I will perform these test procedures
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09:43<mingyang>debian what are the advantages
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09:46<dvs>it's good
09:47<mingyang>What is the difference between each distribution
09:50<grove>That is a very broad question
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11:50<squeeb>Has anyone had any issues booting Jessie on Dell R630s recently?
11:50<squeeb>we used to pxeboot servers into Jessie straight off the repo (we have a local mirror). But recently it's been updated and no longer boots, just kernel panics
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11:51<squeeb>Tried UEFI and BIOS pxe methods, both just break
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11:55<stepik>Hi all!
11:56<stepik>so.. Is the stretch installer like ridden with bugs?
11:56<stepik>Im just busy for half a day installing..
11:56<stepik>first: netinst on usb doent boot
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11:56<stepik>isolinux.bin missing...
11:57<stepik>then i go pxe boot.. It hangs on segfdault on resolving...
11:57<stepik>ok, sorted with /etc/hosts....
11:57<stepik>now it doesnt mount newly created ext4 root fs?!
11:58<stepik>i just thought to cry a bit here:)
12:00<squeeb>sounds like you're having the same kind of day I'm having
12:00<squeeb>except I'm trying to boot hardware I originally booted with 8.1 into 8.9 via pxeboot .. and now they just kernel panic
12:00<stepik>argh:(
12:00<squeeb>nothing's changed except something in initrd.gz
12:01<squeeb>as far as I can tell
12:01<stepik>yeah i guess so, like half a day process now...
12:01<squeeb>yup
12:01<squeeb>5pm here though
12:01<stepik>here its 6
12:01<squeeb>about to abort mission until 2018 :P
12:01<stepik>:)))
12:01<stepik>did u try a newest stretch, tho?
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12:02<squeeb>Unfortunately we have a requirement for Jessie atm
12:02<squeeb>but it's newest jessie.
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12:04<stepik>hmm... .. memory corruption?
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12:04<squeeb>Possibly.. I actually had to record the screen to see the KP
12:05<stepik>some more datails abput the message?
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12:06<stepik>(and my machine is dell 2950)
12:06<stepik>lets blame dell:))
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12:08<stepik>my install succeeded !!!
12:08<stepik>that took long time!
12:08<squeeb>https://lensdump.com/i/HjohC
12:09<squeeb>this is where it died
12:09<squeeb>not really much information
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12:09<squeeb>https://lensdump.com/i/HjNzz
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12:13<stepik>wow...
12:13<stepik>there is some stuff about some similar isues around, but...
12:13<squeeb>Yea, it's super vague
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12:14<squeeb>and It'll be something horrible like the exact specification of this host causes a KP
12:14<squeeb>or some buried BIOS option
12:14<stepik>yeah
12:14<stepik>try disabling PERC
12:15<stepik>i mean.. Like normal: 1. reset bios to def
12:16<stepik>2. start pullinbg stuff (disabling perc..... etc...)
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12:17<stepik>... ok, funny...
12:17<stepik>i did download proppper image for netboot of stretch.....
12:17<stepik>now.... i have a wheey installed
12:17<stepik>WTF?!
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12:34<stepik>mc
12:35<stepik>... sry:)
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12:41<squeeb>about to try and boot the debian 9 linux and initrd with non-free firmware and then run the debian 8 installer
12:41<squeeb>I doubt this will work :/
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12:47<stepik>good luck...
12:47<stepik>did u try to disable perc?
12:47<squeeb>I need PERC
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12:48<stepik>i guess, but for the sake of identification
12:48<stepik>of the problem
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12:49<stepik>isolinux.bin is missing or corrupt! yay!
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12:56<squeeb>IT BOOTS
12:56<squeeb>using the debian 9 kernel
12:56<squeeb>Now then, can I install a debian 8 kernel now I'm in the installer :/
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13:00<squeeb>Well, fuck. It's installing stretch.
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13:00<squeeb>well that's fucked us up the arse for 2018
13:01<squeeb>brilliant
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13:03<ecormier>first time installer here but not new to linux, I'm having a brutal time on a clean/fresh install (gnome variant) with apt issues: from synaptic I'm seeing keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg not readable.... anyone seen this before?
13:05<stepik>fuck synaptic
13:05<ecormier>same on the commandline
13:05<stepik>also synaptic?
13:05<stepik>or apt?
13:05<ecormier>both
13:06<stepik>ls -l /etc/apt/trusted.gpg
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13:06<ecormier>-rw------- 1 root root 32 Dec 29 13:46 /etc/apt/trusted.gpg
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13:07<squeeb>Where can I find archived versions of stuff? Specifically I want the netboot-installer images from 8.9 instead of 8.10
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13:08<stepik>ecormier: are u root?
13:08<ecormier>yes
13:08<stepik>my permissions are different: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 9867 Nov 23 15:20 /etc/apt/trusted.gpg
13:08<ecormier>let me chmod
13:09<stepik>https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2017/03/msg01058.html
13:09<stepik>is a thread with the same error
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13:09<ecormier>been reading through it already
13:10<stepik>yeah:( no clue
13:10<peter1138>squeeb, http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/dists/jessie/main/installer-amd64/20150422/images/netboot/ maybe?
13:10<ecormier>thanks anyways, I'll keep kicking at the tires for a bit
13:11<squeeb>peter1138: oh
13:11<squeeb>is this some kind of archive service?
13:12<peter1138>no i just changed dists/stretch to dists/jessie as a guess, and it worked
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13:13<squeeb>wait so, this hasn't been updated since 2015?
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13:13<squeeb>Oh wait no, the dir hasn't been updated since 2015
13:13<squeeb>yea, this is the problematic version
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13:53<Blacker47>now he parted to early...
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13:59<noname>hi there
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14:02<kevyYo>how are you doing
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14:04<noname>i have a warp10 DataBase running on a private server and i need to acces this db over HTTPS. i can't install the ssl certificate on the db http server do anyone know how can i set up a sort of "gateway" that take https request and redirect it on localhoost:9090 ?
14:04<noname>and i'm fine @kevyYo just struggling on this.... :)
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14:05<noname>returning on debian OS since a long time
14:05<grawity>yes, those are called "reverse proxies"
14:05<grawity>many popular http servers can do that
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14:06<noname>nice! thanks you now i know what to search!
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14:22<Blacker47>i see apache crashing on debian 9 with php function phpinfo();. could any one confirm it?
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14:26<petn-randall>Blacker47: It cannot confirm.
14:26<petn-randall>Blacker47: Sounds like you installed PHP from somewhere else, or mixed PHP installations.
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14:27<Blacker47>petn-randall, has you the latest imagemagic updates installed? php as module? no mixed installation but not sure if not something wrong with configuration.
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14:29<petn-randall>Blacker47: yes
14:29<Blacker47>petn-randall, this is all so far i get as information now: http://paste.debian.net/1002852/
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14:30<Blacker47>but not sure at what time point it started to fail.. long time i used phpinfo last time.
14:31<petn-randall>Blacker47: Actually, I don't have imagemagick installed. Try removing it and see what happens.
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14:31<Blacker47>it was updated few days ago so it is my suspect.
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14:49<galex-713>would you know what would be the best place to ask if there is a progressive video codec existing (like progressive jpeg or adam7 in png)?
14:50<dondelelcaro>galex-713: aren't most video codecs progressive?
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14:51<dondelelcaro>(though I guess, technically they aren't progressive scan, but modern ones work by area)
14:52<mais>hello! and happy holidays. I got a new HP laptop and when I try to install debian 9, it requests for these (http://paste.debian.net/1002855/). Can you help me find them?
14:53<mais>I cant find them listed here(https://packages.debian.org/stretch/firmware-iwlwifi)
14:54<galex-713>dondelelcaro: what I’d mean by progressive is that you could have bit-per-bit identical portions of the video streams that could just be copied straight away to make a lower-quality version of the video that would match bit-per-bit exactely portions of higher quality video
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14:55<dondelelcaro>mais: the necessary firmware should be in the firmware-iwlwifi package
14:56<mais>dondelelcaro, it should but is it?
14:56<dondelelcaro>mais: (those are three different versions of the same firmware, I believe that package has 21, 22 and 29)
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15:02<mais>sorry my pc just crashed
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15:03<Blacker47>petn-randall, ok seems to happen if imagemagic AND graphicmagic are loaded by php in the same time... i assume this is not supported :-)
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15:35<brunoramos>hello, still struggling to activate unattended-upgrades to automatically update the package list and then upgrade the packages...
15:38<brunoramos>yesterday had to manually run and apt-get update
15:38<brunoramos>to update the package list
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15:39<brunoramos>after that I saw that the unattended-upgrades.log shows that installation was done at 6 am as expected
15:39<brunoramos>so apparently it is the package update that is not running automatically
15:39<jhutchins>brunoramos: Has anybody mentioned that this might be a bad idea?
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15:40<brunoramos>I was trying to figure out what package should install the update hook/cron/contrab entry
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15:40<brunoramos>jhutchins, bad idea?
15:40<brunoramos>why?
15:40<jhutchins>brunoramos: Yes. Automated updates can hang or break your system.
15:40<brunoramos>debian stable is not supposed to break
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15:41<brunoramos>I'm mainly interested in setting up security upgrades, to make sure the machine is not vulnerable
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15:42<jhutchins>brunoramos: There's nothing wrong with updating the package lists automatically though. 0 3 * * * /usr/bin/apt update in root's crontab.
15:43<brunoramos>isn't the unattended-upgrades package supposed to set that up automatically when running the dpkg-reconfigure?
15:43<brunoramos>that is the part I'm not understanding...
15:44<brunoramos>I could set up everything via crontab entries manually, but that is not all that configurable/maintainable
15:45<jhutchins>brunoramos: Well, I find it pretty easy.
15:45<jhutchins>brunoramos: The challenge with the automated installs is if they require a user response.
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15:47<jhutchins>brunoramos: Subscribe to debian-security-announce and run an install when you see something.
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15:48<brunoramos>hmmm, got a few security updates that come in while on long vacation, that was not reassuring
15:49<brunoramos>my web application are not that sensitive to downtime, I prefer to break the application than to have the machine vulnerable in my case
15:49<brunoramos>so I might go with your proposal to setup up crontab entries myself :)
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18:25<mais>hello, I 've tried twice to install debian with UEFI mode to my new HP 250 G6 laptop and it fails to boot. Can anybody help me please?
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18:28<mais>as I am reading here (https://wiki.debian.org/UEFI) "The correct way for this to work when booting off local disk is for a boot variable to point to a vendor-specific bootloader program in
18:28<mais>\EFI\$vendor\$bootloader.efi"
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19:51<petn-randall>mais: What happens if you try to boot the installer?
19:52<mais>petn-randall, the netinst usb boots well, after the installation though no boot device can be found ( usb is removed)
19:53<petn-randall>mais: How did you create the usb image?
19:53<mais>using dd command
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19:54<petn-randall>mais: It's possible that the usb image got booted in legacy mode, in that case it fails to boot properly.
19:54<petn-randall>mais: Other option is that you have secure boot enabled.
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19:55<mais>petn-randall, I disabled legacy mode from bios. Secure boot was by default disabled :/
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19:57<petn-randall>mais: There's often a "CSM mode", that needs to be disabled, too.
19:58<mais>is TPM Device (bios option) relevant?
19:59<petn-randall>mais: It shouldn't. Is there an EFI boot option called "debian" in the EFI boot menu?
19:59<mais>petn-randall, no, there is a OS boot Manager though
20:00<petn-randall>mais: grub?
20:00<mais>nope :\
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20:00<petn-randall>mais: What is the boot manager then?
20:00<mais>there is no boot manager I suppose
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21:24<kratos>cordial saludo, algun hispanohablante ? tengo problemas con mi rt3072 en debian 9
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22:51<stein_>Hi! I wanted to add firmware files to my installer usb (got the files, installer usb prepared a few days ago). I cannot copy the files to the usb, I get
22:51<stein_>"WARNING: device write-protected, mounted read-only."
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22:53<stein_>I was able to write the installer image, and hdparm also says "readonly = 0 (off)". Tried as root already, no change. How can I write the file?
22:56<ivan>stein_: did you flip the read-only switch on your usb stick?
22:57<stein_>ivan: there's no physical switch on the usb device that I can find.
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22:58<somiaj>stein_: the debian iso is a readonly file system. If you want to use firmware with the installer you need to put it on a second usb stick (that is just how the install looks for it)
22:58<somiaj>you could also download the installer with non-free firwmare included.
22:59<stein_>somiaj: This https://wiki.debian.org/Firmware says I can put it in /firmware of the usb. Or is it outdated?
22:59<somiaj>stein_: that is correct, but it means a different usb than the one the installer is on
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23:00<stein_>somiaj: Got it, thanks!
23:00<somiaj>!firmware images
23:00<dpkg>Unofficial <netinst> and DVD installer images containing non-free Debian firmware packages are available for installing Debian 9 "Stretch". See http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/ and ask me about <install guide>.
23:00<somiaj>stein_: debian also provides firmware images to use.
23:01<stein_>somiaj: (un)fortunately I have pretty new hardware, which is why I tried the buster installer. and for that there's no image with non-free firmware.
23:02<somiaj>you could install a stretch base system (assuming it is only the wifi issue) and then use a kernel and firmware from stretch-backports if you know your hardware works with the 4.13 kernel
23:02<somiaj>you won't have the devices available during the install, but could maybe get them and still be on stable
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23:05<stein_>somiaj: good idea, I will try that. thanks again!
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23:05<somiaj>stein_: you can use packages.debian.org to download stuff, or a wired network.
23:06<stein_>somiaj: no wired network connector :(
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