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---Logopened Wed Jan 10 00:00:35 2018
---Daychanged Wed Jan 10 2018
00:00<makpafis3>1234567890-==-098653211234567890-=-876321234567890-=096532123456790-=-9865321389=rewsdgjl
00:00<makpafis3>bye
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00:01<keycollector>Did that have any meaning? lol
00:01<Sveta>Typing works.
00:02-!-openlydeveloped_ is now known as openlydeveloped
00:02<Sveta>Perhaps it also means their thing is not broken. Otherwise they'd've asked a question.
00:02<ntox>eh?
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00:02-!-kmshanah is "Kevin Shanahan" on #debian
00:03<keycollector>Possible.
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00:04-!-dboehmer is "Daniel B\xF6hmer,,," on #debian
00:04<keycollector>Kernels take hours to build? First time doing one.
00:04<ntox>depends on hardware.. also which modules you included.
00:05<ntox>can take 15min - 1hr
00:05<keycollector>Running 32 Cores, seems like its not using more than 2-3 though.
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00:06<keycollector>Hopefully soon then, thanks!
00:06<ntox>did you go and de-select everything thats not needed? or you build-all
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00:09<keycollector>I got the tar ball from kernel.org, copied my configs cover, and ran make make deb-pkg. Made sure to select yes for the Display drivers. That command is still running.
00:10<keycollector>I really have no clue if im doing it correctly or not, im assuming i will be able to install the package after this runs if it generates one, and thatll make the kernel avalible during next reboot.
00:11<ntox>believe have to modify grub
00:11<ntox>i havnt done a custom compile in awhile... perhaps it changed
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00:12<ntox>or at end of compile there is command to move it to grub
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00:13<keycollector>Ill see if i can get it to work following the debian wiki, if not, that'll be the first thing ill start looking into.
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00:14<ntox>what are you trying to accomplish with custom kernel?
00:14<ntox>reduce overall memory footprint, or adding modules built in
00:15<ntox>did you use make menuconfig?
00:16<keycollector>I need graphical support for Two Vega 64 Gpus on my system which should be in 4.15. Currently cant get display to go above 1080 on my monitor.
00:16<keycollector>I did not.
00:16<ntox>sounds like thats more or less a video driver issue
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00:19<keycollector>3rd paragraph here says i need 4.15 for graphical with vega. https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux-415-features&num=1
00:19<keycollector>I could be totally wrong, trying to learn as i go.
00:20<ntox>you running straight Debian OS with X11 / Desktop manager? Or you running a distro
00:20<ntox>run uname -a
00:20<keycollector>https://paste.gnome.org/pfunttrzo Thats my current drivers i guess.
00:20<keycollector>Straight Debian 0S
00:21<ntox>ah
00:21<keycollector>Linux MK14 4.14.0-0.bpo.2-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.14.7-1~bpo9+1 (2017-12-22) x86_64 GNU/Linux
00:21<keycollector>should it be showing AMDGPU in my drivers with the inxi command?
00:22<keycollector>Im seeing AMDGPU when i do lsmod, so i assumed i did something correct.
00:22<ntox>perhaps, pull the 4.1.5 kernel from kernel.org
00:22<ntox>4.15, sorry
00:22<keycollector>here right?
00:22<keycollector>https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=b2cd1df66037e7c4697c7e40496bf7e4a5e16a2d
00:22<keycollector>Thats what im building now.
00:23<keycollector>Atleast attempting.
00:23<ntox>ehhh
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00:24<ntox>you'll want actual kernel not commit changes
00:24<ntox>but if its building, let it finish and try
00:24<keycollector>well shizz
00:24<ntox>download the actual tar.gz
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00:26<keycollector>I did from the last link.
00:26<ntox>the link above was commit
00:26<ntox>https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/
00:31<keycollector>Well now im building the correct package :)
00:31<keycollector>Thanks
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00:33<ntox>sweet, tw
00:33<ntox>*yw
00:34<ntox>once you're on 4.15rc kernel, then you can pull down the git commits
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00:37<keycollector>The Kernel should have most of all the commits correct? It was only posted 2 days ago.
00:37<keycollector>Im really not sure how the whole commit process works, ill have to read up on it. Might be a dumb question.
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00:39<ntox>yes, rc7 is latest
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03:47<rootd>hi
03:47<rootd>????
03:48<petn-randall>hi rootd, do you have a Debian support question?
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03:49<rootd>yes
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03:51<SeReX>i need help #
03:51<grove>!ask
03:51<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
03:51<SeReX>im used parrot #
03:51<grove>!parrot
03:51<dpkg>Parrot OS (https://www.parrotsec.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution. It is based on Debian testing, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #parrot on irc.frozenbox.org or try the mailing lists at http://lists.parrotsec.org/listinfo. Also ask me about <based on debian>.
03:51<duclicsic>hah
03:51<SeReX>why , hah ?
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03:52<t3z>jjjj
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03:52<petn-randall>SeReX: If you're using Parrot, you definitely need help, but not in this channel. Try their IRC support channel above.
03:52<SeReX>oh - sorry
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04:22<petn-randall>Do they have a new IRC channel? Then we can update the factoid.
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04:45<grawity>just point it to https://community.parrotsec.org/
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06:14<n0m>Hi there, I can't figure out why I can't upgrade kernel image from 3.16.51-2 to 3.16.51-3 on my debian jessie. My jessie-update repo are activated, but when I'm doing a apt list --upgradable, linux image wont appear. https://pastebin.com/PA9321UV Any idea ?
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06:16<petn-randall>!bat
06:16<dpkg>In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>.
06:16<petn-randall>n0m: Can you provide all the info above in a single paste? ^^^
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06:22<jm_>a shot in the dark guess would say repos.XXXX.net is not up to date
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06:25*petn-randall won't click on that link. :)
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06:26<n0m>petn-randall thanks, I think I found the problem with the policy command I was told to run
06:26<n0m>Trying something
06:29<n0m>yep, found it. There was a priority on jessie and not on jessie-update
06:29<n0m>thanks for help !
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06:30<petn-randall>n0m: I see, glad we could help!
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06:38<n0m>have a good day
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09:05<keycollector>I just built kernel 4.15. Looks like everything went well. It resulted ind two packages i can unpack. linux-image-4.15.0-rc7_4.15.0-rc7-2_amd64.deb and linux-image-4.15.0-rc7-dbg_4.15.0-rc7-2_amd64.deb.
09:05<keycollector>Which one do i want to depackage? or what does the dbg mean?
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09:08<grove>How do I get `visudo` to stop saying "visudo: /etc/sudoers.d/grove busy, try again later"?
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09:11<blast007>keycollector: the first one. the dbg package would be debug symbols. (See https://wiki.debian.org/DebugPackage )
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09:14<keycollector>blast007: Thanks for the info.
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09:16<keycollector>grove: There is probably a process still editing the file, maybe a past visudo you ran. Try finding and killing the process.
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09:18<keycollector> try sudo lsof /etc/sudoers
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09:19<grove>keycollector: I'm pretty sure that process is long dead
09:21<grove>But apparently only he editor process, not the visudo process
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09:22<grove>`kill -9` on the visudo process worked, thanks keycollector
09:23<keycollector>I gave you the wrong command, you probably needed lsof | grep /etc/sudoers
09:23<keycollector>But glad to hear.
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09:24<grove>I figured that out and actually did construct and use the pipe-version
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09:49<keycollector>https://paste.gnome.org/pkgdsiu2q Im trying to use xrandr to change my display to use my whole monitor. How do i apply to my screen? i already generated a new mode, but i dont have a connect type to assign it to. It only comes up as "defualt"
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10:12<_0xis>I'm preparing my laptop(Lenovo P50) for a fresh install. Bios setting for Security Chip. Discrete TPM or Intel PTT?
10:13<_0xis>I can also disable it
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10:32<iStrive>I need help with Debian Strech running Duplicity with GPG, the back runs fine, but when I try to restore, it says this: gpg: public key decryption failed: Bad passphrase
10:33<iStrive>followed by gpg: decryption failed: No secret key
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10:36<petn-randall>iStrive: Are you encrypting your backups with the right public key?
10:36<iStrive>yes the same key
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10:37<iStrive>it is on a file bkey=$(cat /opt/duplicity/.bakkey) both backup and restore look at the same info to proceed
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10:38<progress10>hi
10:38<petn-randall>iStrive: Please take a look at the /topic.
10:40<iStrive>this is related to debian Strech!
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10:41<petn-randall>iStrive: I was referring to the "/msg bots NOT people" part.
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10:42<iStrive>sorry...
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10:45<Sue>any patches to defend against MeltDown&Spectre?
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10:47<annadane>meltdown yes, it's patched in stable. spectre, no
10:47<Sue>annadane, thanks. would you send me the link with the patch?
10:48<Sue>and when will be the patch available for pectre?
10:48<Sue>when will be the patch available for spectre?
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10:48<annadane>Sue, https://www.debian.org/security/2018/dsa-4078 and for spectre, it's not currently known
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10:49<annadane>to get the patch in stable you can just apt dist-upgrade
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10:49<petn-randall>iStrive: Maybe you mistyped the GPG password?
10:49<Sue>annadane, thanks much.
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10:57<keycollector>https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=radeon-vega-eoy2017&num=1 Am i running the right graphics driver for Vega 64? https://paste.gnome.org/puui8tl6u
10:58<keycollector>Im on kernel 4.15
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11:22<keycollector>I need assistance in getting a driver to work with a vega 64 working. I been trying to get this working for 48 hours now. Its definitely possible. https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=rx-vega-linux415&num=1
11:23<keycollector>I can tip genoursly with BTC or ETH. I just need help, im ready to pull the plug and give up.
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11:54<Wolf>Wassup
11:54<Wolf>so....
11:54<b17>keycollector: how is it not working? the artocle says "...and Mesa 17.3-dev built against LLVM 6.0"
11:55<Wolf>Wassup
11:55<annadane>Wolf, this is a debian support channel
11:55<annadane>if you just want to chat there's #debian-offtopic
11:55<Wolf>ok well do you hgave roblox
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11:56<annadane>!anyone
11:56<dpkg>Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>.
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11:56<Wolf>wat
11:56<annadane>Wolf, just ask your actual question, not whether i or anyone else uses some program
11:56<Wolf>=/ im out of order
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11:58<keycollector>b17: Im completely lost on the Mesa 17.3-dev built against LLVM 6.0 part. The big problem is that i cant get my display working, which i believe is cause by issues with drivers.
11:59<b17>keycollector: also the X drivers line says 'ati, vesa' and it should probably say amdgpu, check Xorg.0.log after you get some sleep
11:59<b17>mesa 17 is in testing
11:59<keycollector>I dont have that log file. Ive tried looking in the past.
12:00<keycollector>and when i do lsmod, i see amdgpu. Do i need to make a change? should it be showing up in inxi?
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12:01<b17>/var/log/Xorg.0.log or ~/.local/share/xorg X wont start without it
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12:05<keycollector>What should i be looking for in the logs? i found it. maybe i typed it wrong last time.
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12:07<b17>lots of things to look for, especially (EE) or (WW)
12:07<b17>dmesg might help also if it's firmware issue, so do check
12:09<somiaj>also look for exactly what video driver xorg used and what it detected about your card
12:10<b17>keycollector: how long did it take to build the kernl on that thing 30 seconds?
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12:11<keycollector>Still took 20 min. It didnt seem to multihread well. ha
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12:11<b17>i'm glad you are putting it to work, i know it's frustrating though, good burn in
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12:16<keycollector>Im really not sure what i should be looking for in the logs, I do see that its defaulting to defualt monitor, which may be useless or not.
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12:37<testote2>g
12:37<testote2>ciao,,,chi mi sa aiutare ad usare i plugin?
12:38<annadane>!it
12:38<dpkg>Ciao, vai su #debian-it per ricevere aiuto in italiano. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help.
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13:28<yetoo>I understand that to compile a minimal kernel, I need to use ktest.pl make_min_config. But from what I've experienced, ktest can't find make_min_config and asks me to create one. What am I doing wrong?
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13:31<plant-man>dpkg -i hello-world.deb
13:31<dpkg>package hello-world.deb is already installed
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13:47<stripe>Hi all, just tried to access wiki.debian.org and getting a "forbidden" "you are not allowed to access this!" tried 3 different browsers using stretch any ideas?
13:48<annadane>stripe, VPN? sometimes that's an issue
13:49<stripe>annadane, yes I am using a VPN but the system updates ok through it,
13:49<blast007>the wiki probably blocks some VPN providers due to abuse
13:49<annadane>right but sometimes the wiki blocks vpn users
13:50<annadane>aka it's not a vpn issue but a wiki issue
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13:52<stripe_>annadane, thanks, just tried another couple of vpn servers and the problem persists, perhaps it is time to look for another OS
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13:53<ach>hihi
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13:54<ach>hihi^^
13:54<ach>>:
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13:55*annadane gives ach a cookie
13:55<annadane>stripe_, the OS has nothing to do with the wiki
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13:56<ach>puh
13:57<annadane>stripe_, try not using a vpn
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13:57<annadane>i'm not sure what the issue could be specifically other than just a blanket ban on vpn's which i don't believe is the case
13:58<ach>shy
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14:01<stripe_>annadane, I use/maintain a number of machines, some which use vpn's 24/7, its going to be a right pita if I am working on one of them and cant access the wiki. I wonder if I set up a proxy on a vps to channel the vpn machines through, unless the vps servers are blocked as well,
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14:02<annadane>stripe_, actually, sorry, i should point you to #debian-www
14:02<annadane>don't know why i didn't do that sooner
14:02<stripe_>annadane, thanks again, will try and find a work around.
14:03<ach>no
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14:07<ach>what annadane give moar cookie
14:07<ach>:<
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14:10<ach>rofl
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14:13<ach>hi
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14:17<ach>zz Top La Gran
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14:18<retrospectacus>ach: This channel is Debian support. If you do not have a Debian support question, go to #moocows (or be quiet)
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14:26<minunezd01>hsaha
14:26<minunezd01>hola
14:26<retrospectacus>!es
14:26<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
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14:27<minunezd01>esto es para hablar con personas
14:27<minunezd01>hola?
14:27<retrospectacus>!es-social
14:27<dpkg>Este canal es de ayuda con ordenadores en Ingles. Si no necesitas ayuda con tu ordenador por favor ingresa al canal social de #debian-es con /join #debian-es-cachondeo. Tus amigos probablemente ya esten ahi.
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14:27<minunezd01>ok
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14:29<minunezd01>mi raton va raro
14:30<minunezd01>hola?
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15:06*mnuhmnuh is unilingual anglophone, and says hola all the time. que pasa?
15:07<retrospectacus>una cerveza por favor
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15:08<mnuhmnuh>.beer retrospectacus
15:09<retrospectacus>donde esta la banyo
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15:09<mnuhmnuh>que?
15:10<mnuhmnuh>ot; sry.
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15:33<lbfac>hello everyone, i'm new to debian
15:33<lbfac>i have a somewhat old dell latitude e6520
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15:34<lbfac>has anyone had a good experience with debian and the latitude series?
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15:36<b17>lbfac: never used latitude i have inspiron, are you having trouble?
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15:38<lbfac>oh not really, i'm currently testing it on dual boot, wondering if i should make it my main OS
15:39<b17>e6520 isn't old man that sounds nice i7 dual core 8 gigs?
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15:39<lbfac>yeah, 2nd generation tho
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15:40<lbfac>but it runs smoother than the last generation 7200u i've come across
15:40<b17>i have a puny 1.6 atom and 2 gigs on mine, but ssd made a lot of difference
15:41<lbfac>but i've never managed to make it fully work with windows 10
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15:42<lbfac>i'm looking foward to buy an ssd too
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16:29<oftc_ftw[m]>hello everyone. i have one machine still stuck on Debian 8 because the package percona-xtrabackup didn't make it into Debian 9. From the bug reports log i can see there are 3 open bugs for the package. however, apparently they all have a trivial fix. so is there any other reason keeping this package from being included?
16:30<Ganneff>it wont ever make it into 9
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16:33<oftc_ftw[m]>Ganneff: i see, but why was it not included in the first place? the solutions to the 3 bugs are (1) upgrade package version (CVE is fixed upstream), (2) change package dependencies (mysql) and (3) change compiler flag
16:34<Ganneff>because noone did this work in time
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16:35<oftc_ftw[m]>understandable, thanks.
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17:34<galvani>hello folks.
17:34<galvani>i've just recently installed Debian Buster from scratch
17:34<galvani>everything is working ok, but I keep getting just funky error message at boot up
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17:36<galvani>systemd[1]: Failed to start Network Time Synchronization
17:36<galvani>also: systemd-timesyncd[582]: Cannot resolve user name systemd-timesync: No such process
17:36<galvani>i have googled it but no luck yet.
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17:39<galvani>i don't have a systemd-timesyncd user listed in my /etc/passwd file.
17:40<galvani>but i have no idea how to create it properly
17:40<galvani>or if i am even supposed to do so.
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17:42<mnuhmnuh>galvani: i'd install ntp?
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17:44<galvani>mnuhmnuh, i have installed ntpd but it didn't happen.
17:44<galvani>after reading a bit online it seems the systemd functionality is supposed to replace ntpd all together with simpler funcionality
17:45<galvani>happen=help
17:45<galvani>sorry
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17:45<mnuhmnuh>aiyaii. i'm older than i thought.
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17:46<mnuhmnuh>systemd == The Blob!
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17:49<galvani>it's a blob indeed, but it's foss
17:49<galvani>brb
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17:51<mnuhmnuh>just because it stinks, doesn't mean it's a bad idea. ...
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17:51<mnuhmnuh>ot; eof.
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17:52<b17>systemd-timesync works fine for me on stretch, there is a user in /etc/passwd and group entry
17:53<mnuhmnuh>yabut, ntp is what does time sync w the world., traditionally. wtf is systemd doing that for now!?! is what i feel.
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17:55<b17>well it does get hung with the last two servers i use ipv6=disable so i commented them out
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17:55<b17>other than that it's cheap and easy so why not use it
17:56<b17>like yer momma
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17:56<mnuhmnuh>wut?
17:56<mnuhmnuh>idiots.
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17:58<b17>j/k i hate systemd too let's burn something beavis
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18:47<mnuhmnuh>i've seen a lot of fbird bitchin lately, look into tracker.debian.org?
18:48<mnuhmnuh>oops?
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19:13<mnuhmnuh>https://superuser.com/questions/1283380/cant-start-thunderbird-no-protocol-specified # eg. :-|
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19:21<Sveta>does this happen only on debian testing (buster) or on the stable release as well?
19:21<abrotman>mnuhmnuh: do you need help, or just going to spam that URL everywhere?
19:21<abrotman>mnuhmnuh: have you checked the BTS?
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19:24<galvani>hey there guys.
19:24<galvani>could someone help me create a systemd-timesync user and group with proper parameters?
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19:25<galvani>it seems such user/group pair is missing in my recently installed debian and the service won't run
19:25<galvani>Cannot resolve user name systemd-timesync: No such process
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19:26<galvani>there are systemd-network and systemd-resolve users set in my /etc/passwd file alread, no systemd-timesync, though
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19:29<mnuhmnuh>abrotman: i've seen a lot of fbird bitchin lately, all i'm saying, look into tracker.debian.org?
19:31<abrotman>tbird?
19:32<mnuhmnuh>i don't use email/smtp anymore. gave up.
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19:33<mnuhmnuh>abrotman: thunderbird!
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19:33<mnuhmnuh>geez.
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19:44<SeaShell>I have cryptsetup installed with init, and it freezes at shutdown, what I should do?
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20:18<VentGrey>Hello is there anyone here experienced with gitbuildpackage? I asked on the #debian-mentors channel but no luck in getting a response
20:19<bremner>VentGrey: you could also try ##packaging
20:19<VentGrey>I'll check it out, thanks :)
20:20<bremner>I guess it's probably a subset of the people on #debian-mentors though
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20:34<keycollector>Where would i find Kernel 4.15 Header files?
20:41<ntox>still having issues?
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20:45<SeaShell>I have cryptsetup installed with sysvinit-core, and it freezes at shutdown, what I should do?
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20:48<ntox>cd /usr/var/logs ls
20:48<ntox>look and see what logs say
20:48<ntox>cat /usr/var/logs/messages
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20:59<SeaShell>ntox, you mean /var/logs
20:59<SeaShell>*/var/log
20:59<ntox>Yes, sorry
21:00<SeaShell>ntox, well, idk where I can find shutdown logs
21:00<ntox>look in messages
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21:01<SeaShell>For doing that I must reboot
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21:20<SeaShell>ntox, well, idk what should I search
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22:04<viashimo_>hi, I'm having trouble getting my wacom to work properly with krita & gimp in buster. the device is recognized and configured, but doesn't seem to grab the right cursor inside those windows. does anyone have experience with this?
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