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01:32<iC>greetings how to add my desktop enviroment to apparmor without breaking it?
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01:33<annadane>i don't think apparmor is even in stretch
01:33<annadane>,v apparmor
01:33<judd>Package: apparmor on amd64 -- wheezy: 2.7.103-4; jessie: 2.9.0-3; jessie-backports: 2.10.95-4~bpo8+2; stretch: 2.11.0-3; stretch-proposed-updates: 2.11.0-3+deb9u1; buster: 2.12-1; sid: 2.12-1
01:33<annadane>oh
01:33<annadane>well then. :P
01:33<iC> use buster
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01:34<iC>* I use buster
01:35<iC>I have already installed the apparmor packages but how to I put my desktop enviroment to enforce mode without breaking it?
01:35<iC>*do
01:35<SpeedyG_>hi on debian stretch, how can I ensure that, whatever the name of a network interface (ens3,4,33,44,etc) it will receive an IP through dhcp?
01:36<somiaj>you can see if debian provides any profiles and test it out. Note it is buster so they could still be testing them out.
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01:36<somiaj>iC: also buster questions should be over in #debian-next
01:36<iC>ok thanks somiaj
01:37<somiaj>SpeedyG: Depends on what you use to configure your network. But you can do it as before the name change by using /etc/network/interfaces file and using the name of the interface, 'iface interface inet dhcp' and include an 'auto interface' to bring it up at boot
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01:39<SpeedyG>somiaj: i'm running into this (albeit minor) issue that when uploading my vm from local to google cloud, the interface names change quite unpredictably...
01:39<SpeedyG>so far i've got this ugly workaround to revert them back to the old naming, as thats quite predictable and it'll mostly be eth0...
01:39<SpeedyG>but yeah, /etc/network/interfaces is used and appears a bit too static ...
01:41<somiaj>have you seen if there is a way to predict what the name would be using google cloud. I thought that was kinda the point of the names.
01:42<somiaj>SpeedyG: but what ugly hack are you using? You can just disable predictable interface names and go back to the old system.
01:43<somiaj>I would also think this is a known situation, I did find this. https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2016-April/039325.html
01:44<somiaj>https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/335461/predictable-network-interface-names-break-vm-migration
01:45<somiaj>that seems to be a good answer, it also suggests using network-manager or systemd-networkd as an alternative, as they can handel with changing interface names better than debian's interface file
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02:00<teatime>ew
02:01<teatime>SpeedyG: just disable predictable names. the problem it is intended to solve doesn't exist afaik for VMs
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02:09<dfceaef[m]>hmm i disconnected and reconnected my iphone several times, now i got so many iphones on my caja.
02:10<dfceaef[m]>i tried killing (and restarting) caja but no work
02:11<somiaj>it might be that the device links are still sitting around, I'm not familar with caja, but do you know what devices (in say /dev) the iphone registers ass.
02:11<somiaj>dmesg can help find this out
02:11<dfceaef[m]>usb 1-1: USB disconnect, device number 15
02:11<somiaj>I know restarting should fix the issue, I'm unsure on the best way to clear from a running system though.
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02:12<somiaj>I would need more info, you should past all info around the usb connect for your phone so I could see what it is being detected ass.
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02:13<dfceaef[m]>http://paste.debian.net/1006221/
02:14<dfceaef[m]>dunno where iphone registers itself
02:16<somiaj>It is assigning a new number each time you pluged it in, but I can't see what would still be left around. But I'm unsure what caja would be using to view an iphone
02:16<somiaj>my guess is there some media transfer protcol or somethig left open. Though I can only suggest rebooting to clear it out.
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02:17<SpeedyG>ok thanks somiaj and teatime... its a first for me working with (google)cloud stuff at all... so running into a lot of new things here :)
02:19<dfceaef[m]>http://paste.debian.net/1006222/ hmm more logs from journalctl
02:21<somiaj>SpeedyG: looking at the line failed to execute '/lib/udev/mtp-probe', makes me think it has something to do with mtp (media transfer protocol) and the way it setups a device to talk to being left around. I'm unsure if there is some systemd serivice, or udev configuration you can do to clear them out.
02:23<dfceaef[m]>yes got 'gvfsd-gphoto2[15568]: g_udev_device_has_property: assertion 'G_UDEV_IS_DEVICE (device)' failed' * 8 after caja restart
02:24<dfceaef[m]>i'm getting 8 iphones
02:24<somiaj>yea those are the stale devices I'm talking about that your system thinks are still connected.
02:25<somiaj>I am not finding anything on how to get either systemd to udev to forcefully clear them
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02:33<dfceaef[m]>ok i killall gvfs* and restart caja
02:33<dfceaef[m]>now no iphone shows
02:34<somiaj>might need to replug it in to get it to come back
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02:38<dfceaef[m]>somiaj: should install libmtp-runtime
02:39<dfceaef[m]>is it a bug?
02:39<somiaj>What do you mean? Did installing that lib fix some of your issues?
02:40<dfceaef[m]>yes
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02:41<somiaj>It could be, I don't know the details to give such judgement. But yes a lib should be at least recommended or suggested if it is needed for some functionality.
02:41<dfceaef[m]>replugging -> no more stale iphone
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03:11<pai_>hello - am I irc-ing? Totally new at it...
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03:13<pai_> 64 bit box that had a 32 bit LXLE distro on it and everything WAS fine...
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03:13<pai_>...then I installed Slackware64 and lost internet connection.
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03:14<pai_>Any idea how I screwed this up?
03:15<pai_>I thought it was a Slackware problem but, apparently not.
03:16<pai_>I intend to go ahead and install Debian as my everyday driver while I play with Slackware.
03:16<pai_>Or, that's the plan.
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03:16<pai_>Am I doing this right?
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03:17<pai_>is no one talking or am I just in the wrong place?
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03:19<pai_>hello?
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03:22<pai_>eth0 is now enp0s25 - debian live 64
03:22<pai_>I don't think debian did it.
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03:23<pai_>I've been messing with it for a week. I thought maybe the live version would connect automatically...
03:24<pai_>it didn't
03:24<pai_>I'm on the other box
03:24<pai_>also 64 bit and running the old 32 bit install that worked fine on the other 64 bit boxc
03:26<pai_>I'm not complaining - I love this stuff...
03:28<pai_>I never used to have the time but now, my time is my own -
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05:23<dzodbok>Hi! It is a podderka on Debian?
05:24<dzodbok>Debian isn't established according to the instruction from the website (the loading image from a flash card isn't loaded into bios)
05:24<dzodbok>https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s03.html.ru
05:25<dzodbok> win32diskimager.NO
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05:26<dzodbok>Why silence? I am connected to the channel?
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05:29<dzodbok>?
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06:03<dzodbok>help
06:03<dzodbok>есть кто в чате?
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06:15<grove>!ru
06:15<dpkg>Это английскоговорящий канал, пожалуйста, говорите по-английски или посетите #debian-russian (irc.freenode.net) (Russian speakers please go to #debian-russian)
06:15<grove>!ask
06:15<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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06:20<friki>dzodbok: maybe you are looking for "dd if=downloaded_debian.img of=/dev/sdX" (where sdX is your usb device)
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08:37<Guest2357>Hi, people, I'm having this weird issue with a USB stick which doesn't get automounted reliably. If I connect another USB stick so /dev/sdb is taken, I can connect it and it works.
08:37<Guest2357>Is there a way to remove any previous relationship between this USB stick and /dev/sdb (and /dev/sdc, just in case)?
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08:38<gomiam>sry for the name change
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09:14<Delta-One>how did you set up the automount ? you might want to use the UUID instead of /dev/sdX
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09:19<gomiam>I actually didn't set anything.
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09:20<gomiam>oh hell. I actually have a /dev/sdb1 set up on my fstab
09:20<gomiam>sorry for bothering you
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13:07<oem>Hello
13:08<oem>Please help me
13:08<piper>!ask
13:08<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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15:05<galex-713_>Hi, some program makes my computer freeze
15:06<duncan>galex-713_: The channel is not an oracle, you know.
15:06<duncan>Do you have more information to share?
15:06<sofw>Hi, Spanish¿
15:06<annadane>!es
15:06<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
15:06<galex-713_>is there some way to “save” the output of some ressources monitoring program (like htop, ksysguard, gnome-system-monitor, etc.) over time automatically so that when I reboot I can see what happens?
15:06<duncan>syslog is more helpful
15:07<duncan>You should investigate what it says.
15:07<galex-713_>how can I grep for an occurence of a reboot there (in syslog)?
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15:08<duncan>Use the "last reboot" command.
15:09<galex-713_>wow I didn’t know it
15:10<galex-713_>it’s damn useful :o
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15:10<radix>hello friends
15:10<radix>im not install bomi player
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15:10<radix>help
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15:11<duncan>This program is not packaged by Debian.
15:12<galex-713_>duncan: syslog is full of (hardware?) warnings that probably means nothing since they also occurs currently right now
15:12<duncan>What do you mean that it means nothing?
15:12<duncan>It definitely means something.
15:12<radix>im not install bomi player help me
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15:12<duncan>radix: No, help yourself by telling the channel what you've done so far.
15:13<radix>ok
15:13<duncan>Also, that's a rather petulant thing to say to the channel. People will be less inclined to help someone who has this attitude!
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15:15<galex-713_>duncan: https://paste.debian.net/1006302/
15:15<galex-713_>duncan: yes but it probably doesn’t mean something related to my freeze I mean
15:15<galex-713_>since it still happens
15:15<galex-713_>while there’s no freeze
15:16<duncan>Describe "freeze"
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15:16<galex-713_>duncan: the screen stops updating, it “freezes” in what it stays the same, whatever i do with the inputs (mouse can’t move, datetime don’t update, ctrl+alt+f3 don’t go to tty, etc.)
15:17<galex-713_>and that usually happens when I try to play to a recently compiled (by myself) opengl game (called voxelands, it’s a fork of minetest)
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15:17<duncan>OK well clearly OpenGL is the problem.
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15:17<duncan>Is it using features that your graphics card doesn't have?
15:18<duncan>Have you reported the issue to them? Are there similar issues reported already?
15:19<galex-713_>I said it on their irc channel
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15:19<galex-713_>but it’s a small project, and for instance that’s a while (since even before the fork) their binary segfault regularly
15:20<galex-713_>and that’s also thought to be linked with opengl
15:20<duncan>Then clearly there is a maintainability issue
15:20<galex-713_>But I thought opengl stuff was limited to segfaulting the program, not freezing the whole computer :/
15:20<duncan>No, the problem is clearly the program you're using.
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15:20<galex-713_>but how can I be sure it’s an opengl issue?
15:20<galex-713_>So at least I have something meaningful to report to them
15:21<duncan>Look through syslog, report your OpenGL version,...
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15:21<duncan>I cannot be sure it is an OpenGL issue, but certainly it sounds like this is the problematic part.
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15:25<blast007>galex-713_: if you have another system, you could SSH into your computer while you run that program. if SSH stops responding, then the system really is hard locking. otherwise, you could try killing the application via SSH.
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15:26<galex-713_>blast007: because it could be not totally freezed? like only the screen could be freezed?
15:27<galex-713_>blast007: would playing music and observing if the freezes stop/loop the music instead of letting it continue would be an equivalent alternative to see if the system is completely blocking?
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15:27<galex-713_>blast007: also I heard most of opengl problems of the game are caused by the usage of irrlicht
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15:37<galex-713_>blast007: ?
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15:47<blast007>sure, playing music could also help determine that. but having SSH available might be nice in case it doesn't hard lock.
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15:58<kraft3>I just did a downgrade from isd to stable, and now after I do apt-get update, I get "W: Problem unlinking the file auxfiles - Clean (21: Is a directory)". I don't know where the auxfiles is, and google didn't help. Any ideas?
15:58<kraft3>sid*
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15:59<blast007>you reinstalled from scratch?
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16:00<kraft3>no, I had app pinning messed up so it instead some sid packages. but I fixed the pins to force it to stable again, and did apt-get upgrade, which downgraded my packges back to the stable version
16:00<kraft3>so it installed*
16:01<somiaj>apt won't fully downgrade things, you might want to make sure you still don't have any libs or sid packages sitting around.
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16:02<blast007>why do you have sid binary sources on your stable install?
16:02<kraft3>how could I verify that? I have apt pinning just for firefox quantum
16:02<blast007>!frankendebian
16:02<dpkg>When you get random packages from random repositories, mix multiple releases of Debian, or mix Debian and derived distributions, you have a mess. There's no way anyone can support this "distribution of Frankenstein" and #debian certainly doesn't want to even try. See if you can convince ##linux to help.
16:03<somiaj>kraft3: It looks like in the upgrade what should be a file in stable is now a directory in sid. Scripts usually only know how to go one way in cases like this. So downgrading won't undo anything that was done during the upgrade.
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16:04<kraft3>I looked a at random package, "vinagre", and it indeed downgraded. I have the stable version and not the sid version installed
16:04<coruja>one may downgrade a testing/sid system by pinning stable to >1000 and removing all other sources
16:04<coruja>'may' meaning may or may not work
16:04<somiaj>well won't undo everything, sometimes you have to play with it. Depending on how much youf system was upgraded there could be various things you have to manually undo.
16:05<kraft3>hmm okay. might need to reinstall it then to ensure nothing is buggy
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16:06<somiaj>kraft3: usually, unless it was only a few packages. The post/pre install scripts are designed to upgrade from the previous version, they won't know of any future version changes.
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16:08<kraft3>https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/395316/install-firefox-quantum-in-debian-9-stretch This approved answer is what messed it up, since he didn't include the pinning as part of the answer
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16:13<somiaj>kraft3: there is a constant stream of bad advise about installing from sid out there ufnroutnally.
16:14<somiaj>kraft3: in the firefox case it is much easier and safer to download the precompiled binary from mozilla as a .tar.gz and extract it into $HOME and run it.
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16:18<kraft3>yeah, I'll keep that in mind next time :/ At any rate, my system seems usable part from the warning in apt-get update. I will just run this for awhile, maybe even until buster comes out
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17:49<Lue[m]>geez, finally i was able to join
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18:02<Lue[m]>Hey fellas
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18:09<sig>yo Lue[m]
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19:37<Arpegius>Why if I set the equalizer for alsa with alsamixer the sound doesn't seem to change?
19:37<Arpegius>(I'm on pulseaudio)
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19:53<sigimac>Arpegius: what sound card do you have?
19:54<Arpegius>sigimac, CX20757 Analog
19:55<sigimac>on debian 9? or a raspberry pi?
19:55<Arpegius>sigimac, debian 9
19:55<sigimac>https://www.hecticgeek.com/2012/01/how-to-remove-pulseaudio-use-alsa-ubuntu-linux/
19:55<sigimac>that is for ubuntu but I think you get the gist
19:56<sigimac>I'm dealing with this right now as well
19:56<Arpegius>sigimac, I'm using gnome
19:56<Arpegius>I tried to remove pulseaudio, but I lose all the integrations with gnome
19:56<sigimac>oh
19:56<sigimac>gnome-alsamixer package
19:57<Arpegius>sigimac, already installed
19:57<Arpegius>But I can't use vol+ vol- shortcuts
19:57<sigimac>QasMixer
19:57<sigimac>I'm going to try to remove pulseaudio and install gnome-alsamixer
19:57<Arpegius>Or manage the volume from the gnome applets
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19:58<sigimac>I'm using cinnamon and I like it quite a bit
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20:01<blast007>Arpegius: I've not tried it myself, but there is a pulseaudio-equalizer package "This package provides an equalizer sink and an interface to configure the equalizer, qpaeq."
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20:24<Arpegius>blast007, qpaeq
20:24<Arpegius>There was an error connecting to pulseaudio, please make sure you have the pulseaudio dbus module loaded, exiting...
20:27<blast007>Arpegius: the arch wiki has some info about it which is probably relevant on Debian: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PulseAudio#Equalizer
20:29<blast007>the mailing list link there may also give you some information about whether you want to run it or not
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22:50<Cypris>anyone in here well versed with macmini late 2014 (Macmini7,1) installs?
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