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#debian IRC Logs for 2018-01-22

---Logopened Mon Jan 22 00:00:13 2018
---Daychanged Mon Jan 22 2018
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00:01-!-aostheory is "Unknown" on #debian
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00:04-!-dboehmer_ is "Daniel B\xF6hmer,,," on #debian
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00:26-!-babyflakes is "p4cman" on #oftc #moocows #linux-rt #perf #sched #iovisor #debian-systemd #freebsd #bcache #linuxfs #gcc #slackware #ext4 #storage #pdxpenguins #debian-gnome #ceph
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00:41-!-jm_ is "." on #debian #debian-ops
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00:43-!-j_f-f is "J\xF6rg Frings-F\xFCrst" on #debian-voip #debian-bugs #debian-games #debian-systemd #debian-lists #debian-gnome #debian-mentors #debian-hurd #debian-kbsd #multiarch #debian-www #debian-reproducible #debian #debian-qa #debian-ubuntu #alioth
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01:01-!-kmshanah is "Kevin Shanahan" on #debian
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01:08-!-galex-713 is "Alexandre Garreau" on #debian-kde #debian
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01:26-!-Q-Master^Work is "Vladimir Berezenko" on #debian-next #debianppc #debian
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01:35-!-kmshanah is "Kevin Shanahan" on #debian
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03:43<EmleyMoor>I have found a surefire way to crash X on my system: it's called fullscreen YouTube! Not surprisingly I'd like to stop that happening
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03:44<grawity>wild first guess: try swapping Xorg video drivers (from intel/radeon/amdgpu/nouveau to modesetting, or the other way around)
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03:46<EmleyMoor>grawity: Currently running nouveau, is there a guide on what I need to do?
03:47<grawity>see what happens if you remove xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
03:47<grawity>no changes to the kernel driver
03:48<EmleyMoor>Just plain remove that? OK, will give it a try
03:49<grawity>install xserver-xorg-video-modesetting if you're still on jessie, but otherwise that's built in
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04:04<mnuhmnuh>EmleyMoor: picky, picky, ... you kids.
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04:41<tenaka18>good morning
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05:27<RDX400> Hi, since i updated my os, i am gonna auto logout if i connect a usb stick. i don't cares which port i am using. i tested it with different usb sticks. need help to solve my problem
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05:35<EmleyMoor>I'm trying to remove xserver-xorg-video-nouveau, in favour of the built-in thing I was advised to try. How do I satisfy the need for xorg-driver-video?
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05:37<enyc>EmleyMoor: do you need to actually remove package or just create an xorg.conf to use the appropriate driver?
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05:38<enyc>EmleyMoor: if you really need a package removed but keep a dependency 'happy' you can use 'equivs' / equivs-build etc etc to create a 'dummy' package to keep it happy.
05:39<EmleyMoor>Unfortunately screen crashed and I can't remember who I was dealing with before
05:39<teatime>I saw the suggestion to remove the package; the intention was that removing the package would be easier to do/explain than the xorg.cong
05:39<jm_>EmleyMoor: it was grawity
05:40<jm_>I think so too
05:40<jm_>RDX400: as in logout from GUI?
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05:44<RDX400>jm_, yes a complete logout
05:45<jm_>RDX400: which DE are you using?
05:45<EmleyMoor>jm_: GNOME
05:46<jm_>EmleyMoor: hmm I asked RDX400
05:46<RDX400>jm_, https://pastebin.com/1rTWYzcN
05:47<jm_>!kali
05:47<dpkg>Kali Linux (http://www.kali.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on chat.freenode.net or http://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian>, and read http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html
05:47<jm_>RDX400: ^^^^^^^
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05:51<EmleyMoor>OK, I've somehow reached the right stage by carefully removing packages
05:51<EmleyMoor>It actually seems to be working much better generally
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06:09<EmleyMoor>Got through the offending YouTube video in fullscreen, no crash
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06:17<grawity>I'm surprised there's a dependency on xorg-driver-video
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06:18<grawity>since modesetting is built in, I'd actually expect xorg-server itself to satisfy it...
06:18<EmleyMoor>I've left the fbdev driver on to satisfy it
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06:18<grawity>(xserver-xorg-video-nouveau does very little in terms of GPU acceleration – it's all in Mesa and the kernel's nouveau – so modesetting should work just fine in general)
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06:20<EmleyMoor>This may keep my desire to upgrade at bay a bit longer giving me more time to research
06:20<EmleyMoor>Any really good motherboards for a desktop/server mixed machine about without all the gamers' bling?
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06:24<jm_>when I looked for a cheap new motherboard for one of my systems running atom now, I found out even the cheap ones have LED-s these days :)
06:25<EmleyMoor>Hmmm... what I could really do with is a friendly dealer in London
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06:44<alberto>hi
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06:45<Guest2421>please help, I installed stretch 9.3, but I cannot setup gnome-screensaver, any hints? Thanks!
06:46<Guest2421>gnome-screensaver-command -l did not work
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06:46<Lue[m]>...gnome-screensaver?
06:46<Guest2421>yes
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06:47<Lue[m]>what do you want to set up?
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06:47<Guest2421>the lock after 2 minutes
06:47<Guest2421>and the screen off after 5
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06:47<Lue[m]>you do that in the gnome control center
06:48<Guest2421>it didn't work
06:48<Lue[m]>you have default gnome?
06:48<Guest2421>apt-get install gnome task-gnome-desktop
06:49<Lue[m]>and reboot to let the services start correctly?
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06:49<Guest2421>which services?
06:49<Guest2421>I rebooted after installed
06:50<Lue[m]>i just woke up, lemme turn on my pc and look
06:50<Lue[m]>you have 64bit?
06:50<Guest2421>amd64
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06:52<Lue[m]>oh, i just noticed i run Debian 10 already
06:53<Guest2421>ok
06:53<Guest2421>this is unstable
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06:53<Lue[m]>not its testing
06:54<Lue[m]>unstable is sid
06:54<Lue[m]>inthink
06:54<Guest2421>debian stable = 9.3
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06:55<Lue[m]>ya, debian "testing" = deb10
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06:56<buyukadam>Hi. I've question about display adapters. My computer has nVidia 940M and an Intel device for display. Sometimes display just stops or start messing around. Whenever I do some changes on screen (scrolling pointer, typing etc.) everything starts shaking. See that photo: http://www.bayimg.com/eec82bb9b7100872d5d962b457375732398fa33e.jpg
06:56<buyukadam>I'm ready to give terminal outputs
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06:57<Lue[m]>Guest2421: can you send me a screenshot of your settings?
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06:58<buyukadam>settings of?
06:59<Lue[m]>privacy and energy settings in the control center
07:01<buyukadam>BTW if I put the computer on sleep mode and wake it back, problem solves temporarily
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07:01<buyukadam>http://bayimg.com/CalmIaaGH
07:02<Lue[m]>that doesn't look like the gnome control center
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07:06<buyukadam>I'm running Debian with KDE, I guess...
07:07<buyukadam>and check this, I've lost it again and plugged in another monitor. I kept pressing Meta+P and change display layout. It fixed
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07:11<buyukadam>But yet, temporarily
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07:11<Lue[m]>what?
07:12<Lue[m]>you runn KDE and want to use the GNOME-screensaver?
07:12<Lue[m]>did i get it wrong?
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07:14<buyukadam>@Lue[m] if you're talking to me, all I want is stable display. My display keeps stopping
07:15<Lue[m]>what do you mean by stable display...
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07:15<Lue[m]>your display keeps stopping??
07:16<buyukadam>Did you see the image that I share first? My laptop screen dies and keeps shaking. Like a CRT monitor: http://www.bayimg.com/eec82bb9b7100872d5d962b457375732398fa33e.jpg
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07:16<Lue[m]>wow, REKT m8
07:16<Lue[m]>i am sure thats a problem with your monitor
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07:17<buyukadam>No way. Windows runs perfectly
07:17<buyukadam>And I'm using Debian now. No problem
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07:17<buyukadam>But in Debian, sometimes I get this error
07:17<buyukadam>randomly
07:17<Lue[m]>can you answer my last question pls
07:17<buyukadam>And also, another display devices turn into this. Like a LED TV or LCD monitor.
07:18<buyukadam>Can you cp it please I've lost the window
07:18<BCMM>buyukadam: does turning compositing off fix it? ctrl-alt-f12 by default in kwin
07:18<buyukadam>never tried it. I've no idea
07:19<Lue[m]>you said you use KDE?
07:19<BCMM>sometimes aiglx+broken drivers produces artifacts a bit like that
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07:20<BCMM>also, are you on nouveau or binary drivers?
07:20<buyukadam>yes I'm using KDE. BCMM I've tried that combination and all I get was a black screen. I've two monitors now. One got blinking white cursor, other got moving around cursor
07:20<buyukadam>I'm sorry but I've no idea what that is
07:20<Lue[m]>and why are you asking for the gnome screensaver????
07:20<buyukadam>nouveau or binary drivers -> this
07:20<buyukadam>I never asked about gnome screensave
07:20<buyukadam>r
07:20<duncan>Look it up?
07:20<jm_>ctrl-alt-f2 is usually switch to tty2 unless disabled in X config or rebinded
07:20<buyukadam>how can I?
07:21<BCMM>i mean, are you using the open-source nouveau driver, or the official proprietary driver from nvidia?
07:21<buyukadam>ah no. I didn't install nvidia driver
07:21<BCMM>buyukadam: oh sorry about that. jm is right, i typoed. alt-SHIFT-f12
07:21<buyukadam>once I've tried it to run steam but it killed my display totally.
07:21<Lue[m]>oh sorry, i saw
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07:21<Lue[m]>Guest2421: still here
07:21<duclicsic>if your laptop has both intel and nvideo graphics onboard you most likely need bumblebee: https://wiki.debian.org/Bumblebee
07:22<BCMM>buyukadam: sorry, you will need to press ctrl-alt-f7 to get your desktop back. i gave you the wrong keyboard shortcut.
07:22<buyukadam>BCMM alt+shift+f12 didn't change the tty so yeah I guess first combination was wrong. as soon as I lose display I'll try alt+shift+f12
07:22<jm_>the other day someone suggested that buyukadam tries bpo kernel
07:22<buyukadam>I've get it back don't worry
07:22<buyukadam>still using the same computer
07:22<duclicsic>nvideo? nvidia.
07:23<BCMM>i don't have an nvidia card, can somebody suggest an easy way for buyukadam to check which driver is in use?
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07:23<Lue[m]>i alway had problems with KDE, i dont wanna use it anymore and i also cant help
07:23<buyukadam>ok I'm back again. alt+shift+f12 didn't work. jm_ you're right I'll look into that too. duclicsic last time I've tried that steps I lost my display and had to reinstall whole system because I couldn't fix it. Actually I'm a bit scared from that nvidia drivers
07:24<buyukadam>thanks for tring Lue[m]
07:24<jm_>!which video driver
07:24<dpkg>To show the video driver used by your X server «egrep 'Load.*mod.*driv|UnloadModule' /var/log/Xorg.0.log». Also ask me about <fglrx>, <nvidia>, <which driver>, <nodriver>, <judd-hardware>.
07:25<duclicsic>buyukadam: ok but if your laptop uses this nvidia optimus tech, i think you will need it
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07:25<BCMM>is dpkg french now?
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07:25<Lue[m]>buyukadam: *shrugs* im just 19 anyway
07:25<buyukadam>[    25.047] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/nouveau_drv.so
07:25<buyukadam>[    25.070] (II) UnloadModule: "nv"
07:25<buyukadam>[    25.070] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/modesetting_drv.so
07:25<buyukadam>[    25.087] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/fbdev_drv.so
07:25<buyukadam>[    25.102] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/vesa_drv.so
07:25<buyukadam>[    27.121] (II) UnloadModule: "fbdev"
07:25<buyukadam>[    27.122] (II) UnloadModule: "vesa"
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07:26<jm_>please don't paste here, use the paste site
07:26<BCMM>well, that's the open-source driver, so a newer kernel as suggested above might be a good idea
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07:26<buyukadam>oops I'm sorry
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07:27<buyukadam>BCMM should I just update it through system utilites or do I need some non free packs?
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07:27<BCMM>i'm not sure i understand that question
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07:28<buyukadam>can I run this kernel update easily or do I need to use some non free repos?
07:29<buyukadam>a few days ago someone from this channel suggested me some non free packs
07:29<buyukadam>what's your suggestion?
07:29<jm_>!bpo kernel
07:29<dpkg>Newer kernels for Debian stable releases are available from the <stretch-backports> repository. After modifying your sources.list, run «aptitude update». To install the current backported kernel: «aptitude -t stretch-backports install linux-image-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'`». To list available backported kernel image packages: «aptitude search '?narrow(~nlinux-image,?origin(Debian Backports))'».
07:29<jm_>it's not non-free
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07:29<BCMM>jm_: perhaps somebody else recommended proprietary nvidia drivers to him?
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07:30<duncan>thx nvidia <3
07:30<jm_>BCMM: fair point
07:31<buyukadam>I'm trying to add backport repos now
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07:32<BCMM>buyukadam: if, as you say, windows runs fine, your graphics card presumably works fine. therefore, this is most likely to be an issue with the graphics driver. that leaves you two options: install a newer version of your current graphics driver, or try the *other* graphics driver for nvidia cards
07:33<BCMM>buyukadam: the bpo kernel option gets you a newer version of your driver; the non-free options gets you the other driver
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07:34<jm_>to make it more complicated, newer version of nvidia-driver is also available via backports :)
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07:34<buyukadam>wohhoo! ok I've added backports to source list
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07:39<buyukadam>BCMM I ran the commands that you gave. Now it's installing kernel. I'll reboot my system after installation finished
07:40<buyukadam>thanks for all of your help. I've to log out now. if I couldn't figure out what's wrong I'll try to get some face to face help
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07:40<BCMM>jm_: are there bpo versions of the userspace bits too? mesa, x driver, etc.?
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07:43<jm_>BCMM: not sure, but you check individual packages («/msg judd versions pkgname» or «rmadison pkgname» or https://packages.debian.org/)
07:44<jm_>for nvidia at least there's newer x driver
07:44<BCMM>that's xserver-xorg-video-nouveau for nvidia right?
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07:45<jm_>that's if you use nouveau driver, for nvidia binary only driver it would be xserver-xorg-video-nvidia
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07:46<BCMM>oh i see, you meant for the nvidia driver there's a backport
07:46<BCMM>i was wondering why i couldn't see one for nouveau
07:46<jm_>yeah binary only one has a backport
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08:05<buyukadam>BCMM. Hi again. I've updated the kernel and it seems it works fine now
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08:06<buyukadam>now I'm running with 4.14.0-0.bpo.3-amd64
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08:12<Arpegius>Why when I shutdown mpd and forked-daapd services doesn't stop?
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08:29<Guest2421>so no help for my problem?
08:29<Guest2421>Please help, seems that gnome-screensaver and power management is broken on stretch 9.3 (gnome)
08:29<Guest2421>Thanks for any hints
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08:38<duncan>well
08:38<duncan>if you want help
08:38<duncan>describing the actual problem would be helpful
08:38<duncan>describe "broken"
08:38<duncan>describe "power management is broken"
08:38<duncan>describe "gnome-screensaver is broken"
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08:46<Guest2421>duncan, setting power save modes from gnome panel does not work and so the screen saver
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08:46<duncan>Does your BIOS have support for power save modes? Does your device have proper ACPI support>
08:47<Guest2421>yes it has got all
08:47<Guest2421>Asus TUF299X
08:47<duncan>Does dmesg say anything interesting?
08:48<Guest2421>duncan, no errors, even on ACPI
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09:09<dimi344>Hi I have a question about aptitude, is this the right place to ask?
09:09<teatime>!ask
09:09<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
09:10<dimi344>I'm getting some results with aptitude search that I cannot installed. I was in the process to install cuda and it seems that some repos are stuck in the cache. How do I get rid of them?
09:10<teatime>did you 'aptitude update'?
09:11<dimi344>yes lots of times
09:11<teatime>!bat
09:11<dpkg>In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>.
09:11<teatime>but mainly, can you just show the full error messages please
09:12<dimi344>There are no error messages, I'll show output in a moment, logging in from that pc
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09:16<Arpegius>How can I know why when I shutdown mpd and forked-daapd services doesn't stop?
09:16<dim344>Here's a paste with some commands https://pastebin.com/zjz9Q95r
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09:19<teatime>dim344: try `aptitude why-not cuda-cublas-9-1` and if that doesn't work post `apt-cache policy cuda-cublas-9-1`
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09:21<teatime>dim344: that is not a debian package, as far as I can tell.
09:22<dim344>I'm trying to stop these packages being shown in aptitude.
09:22<dim344>I'm running Ubuntu but looking for aptitude specific support
09:22<dim344>Here is the paste https://pastebin.com/7mBfGRAA
09:24<teatime>well, hrm, I didn't think aptitude would show results from package cache, but if that's what it's doing, 'aptitude clean' will clear the .deb cache
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09:25<piper>!ubuntu
09:25<dpkg>Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian. Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu on chat.freenode.net instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian> and <ubuntuirc>.
09:25<piper>and in debian E: No package named "cuda-cublas-9-1" exists.
09:25<piper>E: No package named "cuda-cublas" exists.
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09:26<dim344>I was looking for those maintaining/supporting aptitude. Will post any further questions there. Thanks
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09:30<piper>dim344: perhaps the package you need is libcublas9 NVIDIA cuBLAS Library
09:31<piper>gone
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10:29<pavi[m]>Does any know the difference between a stretch mirror and a stretch-updates mirror? I am unable to use debmirror command to mirror the updates mirror. I am using the same keyring, hope thats enough?
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10:31<pavi[m]>The string I was using was debmirror /media/testdeb/ -v --debug -h ftp2.de.debian.org --method=http -d stretch-updates --arch=amd64 --keyring /home/testdeb/debian-archive-keyring.gpg --no-source
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10:32<pavi[m]>It gets stuck after some time. Same command works nicely for stretch
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12:36<annadane>sig, hi
12:36<sig>hey
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12:58<annadane>!ask
12:58<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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13:48<dboles>!ask
13:48<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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14:12<RoboTux>Hi, is there a way to specify what should be the mime type for a given file extension when several mime type claim the extension (as is the case for .dot files)
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16:01<adso>new debian user here, not sure how i made it a few decades without ever using this beautiful os.
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16:03<Lue[m]>adso: welcome, i am using debian since im 12
16:04<Lue[m]>adso: if you need help, txt me
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16:07<adso>which desktop environment do you use?
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16:08<adso>i currently have a buster vm (using cinnamon) setup thru vmware fusion and it is working beautifully. however, there was an issue yesterday where i was fiddling around with things, panels, random settings, trying out packages, etc. and there was introduced a slight latency/framerate issue that actually completely killed the experience for me
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16:08<Lue[m]>adso: im boring, so GNOME
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16:08<adso>one of my favorite things is that it is so snappy and crisp, and having even a slight latency ruined it for me. luckily i had a backup and was able to roll back, but ideally i would have liked to be able to debug and figure out what was happening.
16:09<Lue[m]>on old stuff its LXDE
16:09<adso>on boot, cinnamon was using inordinate amounts of CPU, so i'm guessing it had to do with one of the panel applets i installed or something... not 100% sure.
16:09<Lue[m]>cinnamon uses alot of recources
16:10<andrew>Are you launching cinnamon with or without software rendering?
16:10<adso>not 100% sure, i'm using hardware acceleration in the vmware settings.
16:11<adso>cinnamon settings would have been whatever comes default in the debian buster iso
16:11<Lue[m]>with if its possible
16:11<adso>well, i'm running it now and it's fine, it's just that i had installed something or changed something that introduced that lag. i'm guessing it's more of a cinnamon thing than a debian thing, though.
16:11<duncan>just switch to kde :')
16:11<Lue[m]>heck
16:12<Lue[m]>how much RAM does Cinnamon use?
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16:12<Lue[m]>or better, how much RAM does Debian+Cinnamon use
16:13<adso>i don't believe it was a RAM issue, i have 8gb apportioned to the VM, and it was using around 100-160mb ram
16:13<adso>the cpu was spiking ridiculously though
16:14<Lue[m]>mmmh
16:14<Lue[m]>they use javascript to runn it
16:15<Lue[m]>figures that its not as performant
16:15<andrew>Have you tried launching cinnamon without the (software rendering) option?
16:16<adso>i'll try that, i still have a copy of the vm with the laggy cinnamon
16:16<adso>thanks for the tip
16:16<Lue[m]>i think cinnamon doesnt have hardware acc on a VM, does it?
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16:16<adso>vmware fusion allows me to enable it, i can't be certain if cinnamon is taking advantage of that or not without further research
16:17<andrew>I have another issues with Cinnamon. Everytime I restart my machine I lose the option for Cinnamon in gdm3.
16:17<Lue[m]>why is Cinnamon developed in javascript?
16:18<andrew>I have to lauch gnome and reinstall cinnamon to use it again.
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16:20<duncan>Hardware acceleration can be given to virtual machines
16:21<andrew>Is there a way to configure gdm3 so I don't lose the option the launch cinnamon?
16:21<duncan>If the program is installed the option is present.
16:21<duncan>If the program is not installed the option will be removed.
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16:22<duncan>the program = cinammon of course! :)
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16:22<Lue[m]>in a VM i recommend LXDE
16:22<andrew>so how does cinnamon get uninstalled on a reboot?
16:22<duncan>No idea. You probably uninstalled it.
16:23<Lue[m]>uninstalled?
16:23<Lue[m]>software doesnt uninstall itself
16:23<duncan>It does if you tell it to, or remove the file that gdm3 looks for.
16:24<duncan>e.g. something -session
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16:25<duncan>weird
16:25<Lue[m]>indeed+
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16:28<adso>lue, what are the advantages of LXDE over cinnamon? i am a stickler for minimalism, lightness, and all that, BUT
16:28<adso>i do like an aesthetically pleasing interface
16:28<adso>so i'd like to find the best balance
16:28<adso>cinnamon is the only desktop environment i'm familiar with at the moment, and i based it completely off of a few screenshots i saw
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16:29<adso>i believe i read somewhere that lxde is the lightest of the available options
16:29<Lue[m]>LXDE can be configured to use only 85MB ram
16:29<Lue[m]>and look good at it
16:29<adso>do you have a screenshot of your lxde setup?
16:30<Lue[m]>on bigger devices i use Gnome
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16:30<Lue[m]>adso: not right now
16:30<andrew>I did remove nemo, maybe that's what uninstalled cinnamon somehow
16:31<Lue[m]>adso: here is my GNOME tho
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16:32<dboles>ime, XFCE is a nice middle ground between lightness and low to mid levels of eye candy
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16:35<adso>i will have to spend a bit more time exploring the different options
16:35<adso>i've got a nice oldskool thinkpad on the way, with very decent specs for the price
16:35<adso>i'm going to use that as a little sandbox to try out all different variations of debian
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16:36<adso>is it trivial to switch desktop environments while the os is installed and running? my initial guess would be that it would be 'cleaner' to try them out at the point of the os installation
16:36<adso>but maybe it works perfectly fine to uninstall/install different ones and switch them out like anything else
16:37<andrew>for the most part, yes. I'd recommend installing the core package and try to avoid full installs that come with a lot of bloat
16:37<dboles>i've heard some tales... but for me it's always been ok, i've gone from XFCE > KDE > GNOME on this installation and no problems switching
16:38<adso>i'm traumatized from windows, it vaguely reminds me of trying to uninstall/reinstall video drivers
16:38<dboles>iirc KDE did KO itself after me not using it for ages, but that was probably incompatibility of my config with a new major release or sth - i use unstable, so am always ready for that kinda thing :)
16:38<andrew>otherwise you'll test out a bunch of desktop environments and have like 6 picture viewers and a dozen calculator apps.
16:38<adso>lol, yah, okay.
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16:38<adso>that makes sense
16:39<adso>any favorite apps you guys have? i've found a few that i'm really enjoying, namely mps-youtube and ulauncher
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16:40<andrew>gpodder for podcasts
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16:41<adso>checking
16:41<andrew>liferea for RSS feeds
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16:42<sigimac>hey if installing gnome what do you guys use? gdm3 or mdm?
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16:43<dboles>what's mdm? mint? debian isn't mint, so gdm3
16:44<andrew>I like gdm3, but I've never tried mdm. I hated lightdm because it wouldn't autofill username.
16:44<sigimac>is mdm a mint thing?
16:44<sigimac>specifically?
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16:45<dboles>i'm certainly not finding many signs of people using it on debian
16:45<dboles>,v mdm
16:45<judd>Package: mdm on amd64 -- wheezy: 0.1.3-2; jessie: 0.1.3-2.1; buster: 0.1.3-2.1+b2; sid: 0.1.3-2.1+b2; stretch: 0.1.3-2.1+b2
16:46<dboles>that's something else entirely
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16:48<andrew>try it out. you can always dpkg-reconfigure it back.
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16:48<sigimac>its for scripting or something
16:48<sigimac>brb
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16:50<adso>anyone know any decent blogs/guides/resources for becoming accustomed to debian in a general way, not necessarily a beginner's guide, but something more along the lines of a guide to intermediate/advanced debian?
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17:13<Guest2464>hi everyone
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17:18<PaulePanter>Hi. https://paste.debian.net/ seems down. Could somebody please contact the Debian system administrators.
17:18<PaulePanter>https://wiki.debian.org/Services/paste.debian.net
17:19<PaulePanter>I am unable to connect to #debian-admin because they require SSL.
17:19<sigimac>adso: you still her?
17:20<adso>i am, yes
17:21<sigimac>you know in cinnamon it has a cinnamon login and a cinnamon rendering login
17:22<sigimac>maybe you logged in when you liked it and you were in the rendering
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17:22<sigimac>and somehow you logged in this time in the fallback mode
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17:25<adso>hmm.... that seems reasonable. i did notice the the login screen was behaving differently (reloading different resolutions, etc.) when things got borked.
17:25<adso>do you know where i can read more about what you're talking about, cinnamon login vs. cinnamon rendering login?
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17:27<adso>it seems to be related to hardware acceleration
17:28<adso>looking to see how i can determine if my cinnamon is utilizing hardware acceleration or not, in my VM i have hardware acceleration enabled so i would assume it's naturally taking advantage of that, but that may not be the case
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17:32<teatime>adso: you're using VFIO ?
17:32<adso>so it looks like if you're virtualization software has hardware acceleration enabled, cinnamon will automatically take advantage of that. i definitely tested that, it was on, but i was still running into that issue. perhaps something i installed or did forced software rendering, regardless of vmware's setting to use hardware acceleration
17:33<adso>i don't believe i have the "IOMMU" setting in vmware fusion turned on, i wasn't 100% sure what it was so i left it off
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17:36<adso>VFIO appears to be related to IOMMU, beyond that i'm not sure if i'm using it or not
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