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#debian IRC Logs for 2018-02-23

---Logopened Fri Feb 23 00:00:12 2018
---Daychanged Fri Feb 23 2018
00:00-!-MeanderingCode_ is now known as MeanderingCode
00:03-!-nowhere_man [~pierre@00012946.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
00:03-!-nowhere_man is "Pierre Thierry" on @#concatenative #emacs #git @#erights #lisp #debian-kde #debian
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00:04-!-dboehmer___ is "Daniel B\xF6hmer,,," on #debian
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00:07-!-nowhereman is "Pierre Thierry" on #concatenative #emacs #git #erights #lisp #debian-kde #debian
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00:16-!-HumanG33k is "realname" on #debian #debian-debsources #debian-desktop #debian-devel-changes #debian-mozilla #debian-meeting #debian-toolchain #debian-next
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00:25-!-xe4l is "xe4l" on #subgraph #redditprivacy #privacytools.io #open-maps-more-than-maps #debian #ck
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00:42-!-apo is "Markus Koschany" on #debian-mobile #debian-games #debian
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00:46-!-galex-713_ is "Alexandre Garreau" on #debian-kde #debian
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01:00-!-Natureshadow is "Dominik George" on #debian #debian-edu #debian-lego #debian-remote #skolelinux.de
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01:03-!-ToffeeYogurtPots is "realname" on #debian #debian-hurd #debian-offtopic #tor #tor-project #tor-onions #tor-offtopic #i2p #https-everywhere #privacybadger #openttd #/r/openttd #odamex #privacytools.io #privacytech #oftc
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01:09-!-yuzu1 is "saki" on #Qubes_OS #redditprivacy #privacytools.io #ovirt #virt #linode #debian #tor-offtopic #cryptoparty #whonix #tor-project ##tor-project #moocows #oftc #tor #qemu
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01:24-!-aidalgol is "@aidalgol:qhx.space" on #debian
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01:28-!-jrklein is "Jason Klein" on #virt #tor #vserver #vidalia #debian
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01:30-!-j_f-f is "J\xF6rg Frings-F\xFCrst" on #debian-hurd #multiarch #debian-ubuntu #debian #debian-lists #debian-voip #debian-gnome #debian-reproducible #debian-kbsd #debian-games
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01:36-!-marcus is "Marcus Lundblad" on #debian #osm.se-spam #OSM.se #debian-gnome
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01:36-!-isaagar is "I Sagar" on #debian-in #hamara #debian-diaspora #debian-mobile #debian #debian-offtopic #debian-live #debian-azure #debian-boot #libindic #debian-gnukhata #debian-ruby #debian-til #debian-browserify #debian-desktop
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01:44-!-marcus_ is "Marcus Lundblad" on #debian #osm.se-spam #OSM.se #debian-gnome
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06:22<adhawkins>Anyone any experience of real-life performance changes on the new kernels for Spectre and Meltdown?
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07:28<Guest4760>excuse me for newbie question. but as far as I can see preseeding doesn't support https protocol? (I know that apt needs transport for https hence I assume debian installer can't do https also?)
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07:32<kzar>I have a user service set up to start emacs server on boot, I'm trying to make it linger even after the user has logged out. But whatever I try that's not working, when I log out it's trashed
07:32<jm_>Guest1035: maybe reading through this bug can help https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer/+bug/833994
07:33<kzar>I have set KillUserProcesses to no in /etc/systemd/login.conf and also run `sudo loginctl enable-linger username`. But no luck. Any ideas?
07:33<Guest4760>jm_ thanks! :)
07:34<kzar>(My user service looks like this https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/EmacsAsDaemon#toc9 )
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07:45<bremner>any ideas how I can test mail sending from unattended-upgrade without waiting for the next security upgrade?
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07:48<Guest4760>bremner: would making a fake mirror that your controll be a solution to your problem?
07:48<bremner>sounds like a ton of work.
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07:48<bremner>I mean, if I wasn't lazy I wouldn't be using unattended-upgrade ;)
07:48<Guest4760>nope I mean just add 1 more line into sources.list with your own fake mirror that has minimal setup
07:49<Guest4760>though that's what I see from the surface, maybe unattended-upgrade has some key to fake run or something, not sure
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07:51<Guest4760>bremner: came to mind one more weird idea: downgrade since package and see if it triggers an update? :D
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07:51<Guest4760>nope
07:51<Guest4760>don't listen to me
07:51<Guest4760>bremner: I guess https://gist.github.com/roybotnik/b0ec2eda2bc625e19eaf#testing-your-configuration
07:52<supaman>kzar: have you tried adding your user name to KillExcludeUser = option in login.conf?
07:52<bremner>wtf, I need to log in to github to look at a gist?
07:53<Guest4760>O_o why do I see it unlogined?
07:53<bremner>browser problems maybe
07:53<bremner>yeah, great. works from chromium, not crom conkeror.
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07:54<itd_>bremner: run it with --dry-run & Unattended-Upgrade::MailOnlyOnError 'false'; ?
07:54<kzar>supaman: I figured KillUserProcesses=no would be enough, so I didn't try that setting. But I'll try it now
07:54<kzar>brb
07:54<bremner>itd_: right, it's that config option I was looking for
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07:57<cascardo>kzar: my guess is that you need to reboot after that :-(
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07:57<cascardo>even after enable-linger, 'loginctl show-user $user' still shows lingering as off
07:58<kzar>cascardo: Yea I have been testing by rebooting, still no luck :(
08:02<kzar>cascardo: and FWIW I'm seeing Linger=yes
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08:31<kzar>Man, no matter what I try the service doesn't persist after I logout :(
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09:20<Guest4760>How do I force the preseed to still ask for hostname and domain? I tried either setting netcfg/get_hostname netcfg/get_domain to empty strings, also I tried to mark them seen false nothing is working...
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09:32<wonderwhy>hi
09:32<wonderwhy>how to create an apparmor profile for an complicated application like torbrowser?
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09:42<gnnarin>Salve,
09:42<gnnarin>premetto che ho installato la versione netinst della distribuzione Debian 9.0.3.
09:42<gnnarin>Fin qui tutto ok. Andando ad installare i driver per la Amd radeon 5450 HD PCI Epress, come suggerito qui: https://wiki.debian.org/it/ATIProprietary#Installazione , sono cominciati i problemi.
09:42<gnnarin>
09:42<gnnarin>Questo è il log di xorg: https://pastebin.com/m1hK8Qk3
09:43<wonderwhy>!it
09:43<dpkg>Ciao, vai su #debian-it per ricevere aiuto in italiano. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help.
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09:43<gnnarin>ah thanks.
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10:28<sue>I tried 'apt-get upgarde nginx' to upgrade my nginx to lastest version. But it didn't upgrade my nginx. Do we need to update sources.list with the resources?
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10:28<wonderwhy>try apt-get update first
10:29<wonderwhy>it checks out the new packages
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10:29<wonderwhy>you can just do apt-get install nginx btw
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10:30<wonderwhy>it is nevertheless an good idea to update the system with apt-get upgrade now and then
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12:15<nodiscc>hi everyone, I have a new rig with a GTX 970 video card, Debian stable does not boot unless i set "nomodeset" in kernel parameters. Is this a known bug and where do I find/report it?
12:16<somiaj>it is known that is needed for some video cards. I wonder if it is a nouveau issue.
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12:19<nodiscc>I only found https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=831685 and I don't know if it's related
12:19<judd>Bug http://bugs.debian.org/831685 in libdrm-nouveau2 (open): «blank screen with nouveau»; severity: important; opened: 2016-07-18; last modified: 2016-07-20.
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12:19<nodiscc>the display turns off when I get to the boot part where it switches video mode
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12:20<somiaj>yea, I think it is know that nouveau may have trouble with newer cards. I'm unsure if a newer kernel would help with that. There is also the non-free nvidia drivers.
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12:21<somiaj>and that bug could be related, probably some issue with nouveau/drm and the nvidia card you have.
12:22<nodiscc>somiaj: I plan to upgrade to buster anyway.
12:22<nodiscc>will see if that fixes it.
12:22<somiaj>you can try a newer kernel from stretch-backports
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12:22<nodiscc>ah you are right 4.14 is in backports, I am on 4.9
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12:57<KnoF>hi
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12:57<KnoF>root@Loki:/home/andraz# apt-get update
12:57<KnoF>E: The method driver /usr/lib/apt/methods/https could not be found.
12:57<KnoF>N: Is the package apt-transport-https installed?
12:58<KnoF>can anyone help me with this
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12:58<KnoF>since it wont install apt-transport-https when i try to install it
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13:01<petn-randall>KnoF: Just use plain http like before.
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13:01<KnoF>is there a switch that i add to apt to use regular http
13:01<KnoF>have nothing in my sources.list that uses https
13:02<KnoF>had skype installed
13:02<petn-randall>!bat
13:02<dpkg>In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>.
13:02<KnoF>and when i reinstalled i used purge
13:02<KnoF>sorry uninstalled*
13:02<petn-randall>KnoF: Can you provide *all* of the above info in a single paste?
13:02<KnoF>root@Loki:/home/andraz# apt-get update
13:02<KnoF>E: The method driver /usr/lib/apt/methods/https could not be found.
13:02<KnoF>N: Is the package apt-transport-https installed?
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13:03<KnoF>root@Loki:/home/andraz# apt-get install apt-transport-https
13:03<KnoF>Reading package lists... Done
13:03<KnoF>Building dependency tree
13:03<KnoF>Reading state information... Done
13:03<KnoF>E: Unable to locate package apt-transport-https
13:03<KnoF>kinda dead end for me :)
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13:03<KnoF>manually install apt-transport-https
13:04<KnoF>?
13:04<petn-randall>KnoF: Did you read the dpkg message yet?
13:04<petn-randall>!bat
13:04<dpkg>In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>.
13:04<petn-randall>KnoF: ^^^
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13:08<KnoF>manually installed apt-transport-https
13:08<KnoF>now everything works
13:08<KnoF>:)
13:08<KnoF>sorry for bothering you all people
13:09<KnoF>for some reason when i uninstalled skype, which needed apt-transport-https something went haywire
13:09<KnoF>i used --purge
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13:10<KnoF>oh, i did not clean the skype repos
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13:10<KnoF>that is why it did not want to update
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14:01<sue>How to update nginx on Debian? what are the sources we should add in sources.list for nginx to be upgraded?
14:03<somiaj>sue: what version of debian are you running?
14:03<somiaj>,v nginx
14:03<judd>Package: nginx on amd64 -- wheezy: 1.2.1-2.2+wheezy4; wheezy-security: 1.2.1-2.2+wheezy4+deb7u1; wheezy-backports: 1.6.2-5+deb8u2~bpo70+1; jessie: 1.6.2-5+deb8u5; jessie-security: 1.6.2-5+deb8u5; sid: 1.10.1-1; jessie-backports: 1.10.3-1+deb9u1~bpo8+2; stretch: 1.10.3-1+deb9u1; stretch-security: 1.10.3-1+deb9u1; stretch-backports: 1.13.3-1~bpo9+1; sid: 1.13.6-2; buster: 1.13.8-1; sid:
14:03<judd>1.13.9-1
14:03<sue>Debian 8.9
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14:03<sue>somiaj, nginx version: nginx/1.6.2
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14:04<sue>we want the latest nginx
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14:04<somiaj>sue: It is usually suggested to use the one in debian as it is well tested and gets full security support.
14:05<somiaj>You can get 1.10 from jessie-backports.
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14:05<sue>somiaj, great
14:05<sue>what is the command to get nginx from jessie-backports
14:05<somiaj>To get newer that is premade, you should upgrade to stretch. But even in stretch, I suggest sticking with the stretch version (not stretch-backports) for security support (though I tend to like to have security support on my web severvres)
14:05<somiaj>!jessie-backports
14:05<dpkg>Some packages intended for Stretch (Debian 9) but recompiled for use with "Jessie" (8.x) can be found in the "jessie-backports" repository. See http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ . A suitable line for your sources.list is «deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ jessie-backports main». Also ask me about <bdo>.
14:06<sue>somiaj, we are not ready to upgrade to stretch yet. How to upgrade nginx on jessie?
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14:08<somiaj>sue: you can use the version from jessie-backports, or compile it yourself
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14:14<rob313663>Hi, I have a fresh install of Debian (Linux xxx 4.9.0-6-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.9.82-1+deb9u2 (2018-02-21) x86_64 GNU/Linux), not modified much, installed nvidia driver for my 980 TI. I am experiencing total freezes in Gnome (3.22.2). The mouse won't move, numlock doesn't respond, Ctrl+Alt+Del doesn't work etc. Does anyone have any tips for how to troubleshoot such a problem?
14:14<sue>How to use the version from jessie-backports? the steps and commands to do it?
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14:16<b17>step 1 > See http://backports.debian.org/Instructions
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14:25<rob313663>... or if there are any better channel. And yes, I have googled and read stuff for hours before coming here.
14:26<somiaj>how did you install the nvidia driver?
14:27<rob313663>I have nvidia-detect_375.82-1_deb9u1_amd64.deb in my home folder so I guess it was via that.
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14:27<rob313663>Debian/gnome works for hours at a time, then total freeze.
14:29<rob313663>I had ACPI errors at boot, after bios update those errors are gone.
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14:30<Guest4824>hello new with a few question
14:30<rob313663>@somiaj: I am not 100% sure, but I think I followed https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers
14:31<Guest4824>I run debian wheezy Linuxcnc
14:32<somiaj>rob313663: just making sure you got the drivers from debian, but I have no clue why you would have that .deb file in your home folder? Did you not just use apt to install what you need?
14:32<Guest4824>I have a few problems wondering if someone knows anything about linuxcnc
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14:32<somiaj>hmm, could be an issue with the non-free driver, it is hard to debug issues with it unforntually because it is non-free.
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14:34<Guest4824>I am having some type of problem with synaptic package manager not loading
14:35<Guest4824>I type my password and I see it try and start and shuts down
14:36<Guest4824>I just used it to install 3 honeyspot programs
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14:36<Guest4824>after that stopped workin
14:36<somiaj>honeyspot programs? Where did you get these programs from?
14:36<rob313663>@somiaj: i would have been happy with low performance but stable driver but the nouveau driver couldn't detect my monitor capabilities. 1024x768 on a 4K display is not so nice.
14:37<Guest4824>synaptic package manager
14:38<somiaj>Guest4824: I don't see any package named honeyspot in debian? Did you add some third party repo to get these packages from?
14:38<blast007>!linuxcnc
14:38<dpkg>LinuxCNC is an OS for some models of CNC machines, <based on debian>. For support, ask #linuxcnc on freenode, or some of other venues listed at http://linuxcnc.org/community/
14:38<blast007>Guest4824: ^
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14:39<Guest4824>I checked the box and installed them I was going to write down the names so I could go online and get information how to use them but went blank before I had chance to
14:39<somiaj>oh I didn't realize it was a different os, I thought it was just software.
14:39<blast007>Guest4824: connect to chat.freenode.net and join #linuxcnc and ask there
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14:40<b17>rob313663: random hard crash after hours of uptime is hard to pin down.
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14:41<Guest4824>k thanks
14:41<rob313663>b17: I've even run memtester. It takes forever on 32 gig, no errors.
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14:42<Guest4824>hello
14:42<Guest4824>there are no one online haha
14:43<blast007>Guest4824: did you switch servers? this is OFTC, not Freenode.
14:43<rob313663>there are a bunch online wondering what you want :)
14:44<Guest4824>well my Synaptic package manager stopped working after downloading 3 honeyspot programs
14:44<Guest4824>rebooted system no help
14:45<blast007>Guest4824: we only support Debian here, not linuxcnc
14:45<Guest4824>I can see the package manager window try and load but then terminates
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14:46<Guest4824>I run debian wheezy with linuxcnc
14:47<Guest4824>Runs under Linux (optionally with realtime extensions).
14:47<blast007>Guest4824: there are 137 people on #linuxcnc on Freenode. Please connect to freenode. /server irc.freenode.net
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14:47<Guest4824>k thanks
14:48<b17>rob313663: one way i've tried with random crash is disable or pull any hardware not needed.
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14:50<rob313663>back after another freeze ... :-/ This time I noticed the web radio i was listening to kept looping the last couple of seconds.
14:53<ach>Anyhow to do console puts some stupid syslogd about cpu locked and shit? jessie is not up to time choice
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14:54<rob313663>ach: was that to someone else or me?
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14:56<blast007>rob313663: perhaps the info here would assist with fixing the resolution issue of Nouveau? https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Kernel_mode_setting#Forcing_modes_and_EDID (it's the Arch wiki, but their info is generally pretty universal)
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14:58<rob313663>blast007: sudo get-edid gives me "Looks like no busses have an EDID. Sorry!"
14:59<rob313663>been down that path
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15:02<b17>rob313663: there are other ways to set a resolution in X, but even if you could use it in 1024 for a half a day without a crash, then you know it's the nvivia driver causing it.
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15:05<rob313663>b17: I was thinking the same while I was away taking a leak.
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15:08<rob313663>b17: do you know what nouveau is really? Default display driver when no FOSS one can be matched?
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15:09<somiaj>what? nouveau is an open display driver for nvidia gpu's
15:09<rob313663>ok
15:09<somiaj>it is a replacement of nv, which only did 2d support and wasn't that good
15:11<rob313663>going for a re-install and trying to tweak noveau to go to higher res, is there a way to use the small installer on a bootable usb and point it to a pre-downloaded iso or such of debian on a hard disk?
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15:12<somiaj>you shoudl'nt have to reinstall, you could just remove the nvidia packages and be back to using nouveau
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15:14<rob313663>i know how to re-install, but not how to remove the nvidia driver
15:14<somiaj>just apt remove packagename, where packagename are the nividia packages
15:14<somiaj>dpkg -l | grep nvidia to see all nvidia packages
15:14<dpkg>ii | grep nvidia to see all nvidia packages 2.9-4.1 somiaj's private stamp collection
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15:16<rob313663>just 37 of them ... :-/
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15:17<somiaj>you have 37 nvidia packages installed? That seems excessive. Anyways, maybe remove one of the core ones will remove the most of them.
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15:19<b17>rob313663: yeah take it easy on just trying to install a bunch of pkgs, that kind of confuses things.
15:20<rob313663>I will re-install, taking meticulous notes on any changes I do, I will stay with nouveau and try to up the res and check if it is stable. See you in a couple of hours. (10 mbit sucks, fiber is coming though!)
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15:23<rob313663>bye for now and thanks so far!
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15:41<dothemamba>hello
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15:41<dothemamba>I need help with a very basic thing, but since I don't know linux... can't figure it out
15:42<dothemamba>Is this the right place to ask ?
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15:46<dondelelcaro>dothemamba: if it involves Debian, sure; if not, mayble #linux
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16:01<dothemamba>It involves retropie
16:02<dothemamba>which is based on debian I think
16:02<dothemamba>Not sure...
16:02<dothemamba>How can I compare files in two folders/directories A and B and delete the files that exist only in folder B
16:03<dothemamba>Minus the extension
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16:03<dothemamba>Compare jsut the filenames without extension
16:04<dothemamba>Like, for %F in ("A\*.gif") do @if not exist "B\%~nF.jpg" del "%F", in Windows
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16:06<BCMM>!not debian
16:06<dpkg>Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare http://futurist.se/gldt/). #debian only supports Debian and pure <blend>s; please respect our choice to volunteer here to help Debian users. Support for other distributions is off-topic on #debian, even if your own distro's channel is clueless or non-existent.
16:06<BCMM>but on the other hand what you're asking is completely generic to linux i guess
16:07<BCMM>you could run find in both directories, strip off the extensions, and diff the results i guess?
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16:08<dothemamba>I'll look at that, thanks
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16:12<rob_debian>Hi all
16:13<rob_debian>Please, I'd like to know if dmesg command shows any issue related to my debian stretch here
16:13<rob_debian>https://paste.debian.net/1011700/
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16:14<annadane>rob_debian, are you looking for a specific issue?
16:14<annadane>!context
16:14<dpkg>Try to give enough context! For example, let us know which command/program you are running, what you expected, and what you got instead. Try to be as specific as possible. If your command produced output, share the complete command (with all parameters!) and its output on https://paste.debian.net.
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16:16<rob_debian>hi annadane, nice to meet you ! well, you're right, this line specifically made me a bit worried, for it's in red color:[ 13.680243] nouveau 0000:08:00.0: volt: couldn't find speedo value, volting not possible
16:16<rob_debian>it wasn't displayed before
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17:09<robert>what to do when windows is not appearing as a boot option in grub anymore? :-(
17:11<robert>i had dual boot working, debian kept freezing, re-installed, now this
17:11<robert>sda
17:11<robert>└─sda1 ntfs
17:11<robert>it is still there, haven't touched it during re-install
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17:17<awal1>"update-grub" and reboot
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17:17<awal1>+ google how to add it manually
17:18<awal1>if it still not appearing in grub list after up grub
17:18<awal1>just suggesting...
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17:18<robert>bash: update-grub: command not found
17:19<awal1>as root
17:19<robert>Found Windows 7 on /dev/sda1
17:19<robert>:D
17:20<robert>testing, brb, or not :)
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17:29<robert>Great! Win 7 boot now works! Thank you!
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17:29<robert>thank you awal1!
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17:30<awal1>good for you, robert
17:31<awal1>but boot more frequently to your debian :P
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17:33<robert>I have 980 Ti, noveau driver now, 1024x768, how do i increase that without installing nvidia non-free crappy drivers?
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17:38<robert>3840 x 2160
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17:41<teatime>robertf: nouveau should support higher than 1024x768; are you sure it isn't using the fallback (vesa, I think?)
17:41<teatime>you can run `xrandr` to see available modes
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17:43<robert>didn't work
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17:44<teatime>in what way?
17:45<robert>still at 1024x768
17:45<robert>it is like being back at 1995
17:46<supaman>xrandr doesn't change the resolution, only displays the ones that are available
17:47<supaman>robert: so when you ran xrandr, what was the maximum resolution that you can have?
17:48<teatime>robertf: `lspci -nnk | grep -iA2 vga ` <-- what does this say by 'kernel driver in use:' ?
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17:51<robert>01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation GM200 [GeForce GTX 980 Ti] [10de:17c8] (rev a1)
17:51<robert> Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. GM200 [GeForce GTX 980 Ti] [1043:855c]
17:51<robert> Kernel modules: nouveau
17:53<supaman>robert: and you still havn't told us what xrandr says is your maximum resolution
17:54<robert>4k
17:54<supaman>*SIGH*
17:54<robert>3840xsomething
17:54<supaman>excellent :-)
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17:55<supaman>so that is your maximum resolution, what desktop environment are you running?
17:55<robert>default debian
17:56<robert>Philips BDM4065UC
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17:56<supaman>guess that means Gnome
17:56<robert>i guess that too, not too obvious when installing
17:57<annadane>did you select "desktop environment" and none of the specified desktops, in that case you have gnome
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17:57<robert>did default
17:57<annadane>yep
17:58<supaman>https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/look-resolution.html.en
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17:58<supaman>don't use Gnome myself so don't know by heart how to do that
17:58<robert>what should i use instead of gnome?
17:58<blast007>robert: I was gonna see if I could reproduce the problem, so I booted a 9.2 live DVD on my system with a 980 Ti, but Gnome is working at the native 2560x1440 on that system
17:59<robert>blast007: i have 9.3
17:59<robert>i think :)
18:00<blast007>it's still stretch, mostly just with extra security updates baked in
18:01<robert>Right-click on desktop, Display Settings, I get Unkown display, highest is 1024x768
18:01<blast007>xrandr can set resolutions too
18:01<supaman>problem with detecting the display?
18:01<robert>sudo: xandr: command not found
18:02<robert>need to install it first?
18:02<blast007>need to spell it right :)
18:02<b17>Kernel driver in use: is not the same as Kernel Modules:
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18:02<blast007>and not as sudo
18:02<b17>probably stuck in vesa
18:02<robert>robert@debbie:~$ sudo xrandr
18:02<robert>xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default
18:02<robert>Screen 0: minimum 640 x 480, current 1024 x 768, maximum 1024 x 768
18:02<robert>default connected primary 1024x768+0+0 0mm x 0mm
18:02<robert> 1024x768 61.00*
18:03<robert> 800x600 61.00
18:03<robert> 640x480 60.00
18:03<blast007>thought you said you saw a 4k resolution there
18:03<robert>if i saw it i would be satisfied :)
18:03<blast007>!paste
18:03<dpkg>Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>.
18:04<b17>one more time > "Kernel driver in use:" lspci -nnk | grep -iA2 vga
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18:05<robert>01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation GM200 [GeForce GTX 980 Ti] [10de:17c8] (rev a1)\nSubsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. GM200 [GeForce GTX 980 Ti] [1043:855c]\nKernel modules: nouveau
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18:06<robert>line feeds replaced with \n so not to upset bots
18:08<supaman>robert: do the following on a terminal (the text thing)
18:08<supaman>sudo aptitude install pastebinit
18:08<robert>i know the text thing :)
18:08<supaman>dmesg | pastebinit
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18:08<supaman>and give us the url that comes from that
18:09<robert>http://paste.debian.net/1011711/
18:10<robert>bad? good?
18:10<blast007>hmm, wonder if the firmware is needed? I did use a live DVD with non-free firmware included
18:11<blast007>you could try enabling the contrib and non-free repos and then installing firmware-misc-nonfree
18:11<robert>firmware for what? bios or the video card?
18:11<blast007>!non-free sources
18:11<dpkg>Edit /etc/apt/sources.list, ensure that the two main Debian mirror lines end with "main contrib non-free" rather than just "main", then «apt-get update». But bear in mind that you'll be installing <non-free> software. These may have onerous terms; check the licenses. See also <sources.list>.
18:11<blast007>video card
18:11<blast007>from your paste: nouveau 0000:01:00.0: firmware: failed to load nvidia/gm200/gr/sw_nonctx.bin (-2)
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18:12<supaman>yeah, line 838 seems to give the error
18:13<robert>i had it working in full 4K-glory, but I had total freezes, 1-5 hours apart, re-installed and thought I would stick to novoueoeueoue (can't spell it).
18:13<robert>i installed nvidia driver from their page
18:13<blast007>from nvidia.com?
18:13<robert>think so
18:14<robert>a .deb i installed
18:14<blast007>!why nvidia-installer sucks
18:14<dpkg>nvidia-installer works fine for you today, granted. Let's say tomorrow Xorg is updated -- the nvidia driver will break. If you try to uninstall nvidia (nvidia-installer --uninstall), then you break Xorg badly. nvidia-installer overwrites files at random, and has NO CONCEPT of package management. We recommend against using it based on extensive experience. USE THE DEBIAN PACKAGES. Ask me about <nvidia>.
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18:15<blast007>I don't think nvidia.com provides .deb files. isn't it some .sh file?
18:15<robert>i have a fresh install now, not contaminated at all by any closed source thingies
18:15<blast007>a .run, actually, it seems
18:15<blast007>k
18:16<blast007>tried the firmware?
18:16<robert>no
18:16<robert>i think
18:16<blast007>I mean, since I suggested trying it :)
18:17<robert>missed it, or didn't understand, please repeat
18:17<blast007>scroll up
18:18<robert>"you could try enabling the contrib and non-free repos and then installing firmware-misc-nonfree"?
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18:18<blast007>yes
18:18<blast007>and dpkg provided info about how to enable contrib and non-free
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18:22<robert>so there is no way to get a higher res without installing no open source binaries then?
18:22<robert>no -> non
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18:23<b17>robert: now you see how evil they all are :)
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18:23<somiaj>robert: there is, but you have to manually enter in the full ModeLine
18:23<b17>congratulations
18:23<robert>i have been thinking all day what catch ms has on nvidia
18:24<somiaj>My experience is the closed source nvidia drivers work well for me and the nvidia cards I have owned through out the years.
18:24<robert>so f*ck them, any tips on a good display card to replace nvidia with? money is no problem.
18:25<somiaj>robert: do you want to use 3d and games.
18:25<robert>2D is good enough, the little i play in windows, i can swap cards
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18:26<somiaj>robert: I find the intel graphics a good reliable 2D graphics card that just works in linux.
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18:26<somiaj>the radeon drivers aren't to bad, but I would avoid some of the newer radeon cards. But if you want 3D and gaming, unforuntally the closed source nvidia drivers seem to work the best in most situations (in my experience)
18:26<annadane>AMD though shows signs of rapid improvement
18:27<somiaj>you can get some things to work with the radeon driver, and some things to work with the intel.
18:27<somiaj>annadane: but their closed driver, amdgpupro are not packaged for debian.
18:27<somiaj>so I usually suggest the older cards that work fine with the firmware and open radeon drivers in debian.
18:28<robert>older cards, i bought my pc like 2 years ago ... :-)
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18:28<somiaj>robert: but as for the edid and nouveau not detecting the resolution on the monintor. I think this is partly due to your monitor and not the video card.
18:28<somiaj>nouveau works just fine for most nvidia cards, espically if all you care about is 2D
18:29<somiaj>robert: open up a terminal and run, 'xrandr -q' does it list any higher resolutions?
18:29<robert>yeah, somiaj, and to force it to go 4K?
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18:29<somiaj>https://askubuntu.com/questions/377937/how-to-set-a-custom-resolution
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18:29<somiaj>robert: you could try, do you know if you are using the nouveau driver or not?
18:30<somiaj>I would double check your xorg log file and make sure you are using the nouveau driver and not falling back to some framebuffer or vesa driver. Software rendering at 4k could be very slow.
18:30<robert>default connected primary 1024x768+0+0 0mm x 0mm
18:30<somiaj>robert: and xrandr doesn't list any other resolutions?
18:30<robert>yes, but lower
18:31<somiaj>robert: anyways, follow that link, it might be able to create a higher resolution for you.
18:31<somiaj>that page doens't suggest the best way to make this perminate, but you can force xorg to use any modelines you want as default
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18:32<supaman>somiaj: but look at the output of lspci -nn for him (scroll up) there is no "kernel driver in use" line
18:33<somiaj>hmm, so the nouveau driver isn't loading at all? could check this with 'lsmod | grep nouveau' and if you don't see it, try to manually load it, modprobe nouveau
18:33<robert>Modeline "3840x2160_593.00" 10415.75 3840 4224 4656 5472 2160 2163 2168 3210 -hsync +vsync
18:33<somiaj>robert: what nvidia card do yo uhave again?
18:34<robert>980 TI
18:34<somiaj>you might be able to fix this with a newer kernel from stretch-backports
18:34<somiaj>that 980 is a newer card, unsure if the nouveau drivers in 4.9 fully support it or not
18:35<robert>new? it is more than two years old.
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18:37<robert>supaman: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation GM200 [GeForce GTX 980 Ti] [10de:17c8] (rev a1)
18:38<robert>from lspic -nn
18:38<robert>pci
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18:38<b17>should say VGA compatible (with non-free firmware) controller
18:38<b17>i have the same problem on radeon boards, no kms without firmware
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18:41<robert>b17: But I have not installed any non-free stuff so the output is expected I think
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18:42<b17>yeah so you will probably need the firmware to get the device working, it's really no different than if they went ahead and burned it on the card.
18:42<blast007>somiaj: my 980 Ti with the normal stretch kernel worked with my 1440p screen (but I also had firmware)
18:42<b17>but it is an unknown, so debina won;t use it by default
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18:43<robert>is firmware upgrade a one time thing, can it be done in w7?
18:44<blast007>it's loaded by the driver each time
18:44<robert>ok
18:44<b17>w7 drivers just do it and don't tell you, debian won't do that it's your decision.
18:45<robert>sneeky
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18:49<robert>i guess i stay at 1995 res then, needed debian for work, we use raspberry pi's, so i needed to learn more, but RPi (raspbian) seems more stable than debian. Guess putty from win7 is better.
18:51<robert>thank you for your effort
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19:12<somiaj>blast007: firmware, you mean you used the nvidia blob?
19:13<somiaj>I don't think there is firmware for the nvidia cards, it comes on the card, and the nouveau driver doens't require any additional non-free firmware (unlike the radeon driver).
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19:22<blast007>somiaj: newer cards have firmware files as part of firmware-misc-nonfree. see https://packages.debian.org/stretch/firmware-misc-nonfree and search nvidia.
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19:22<blast007>his dmesg said "nouveau 0000:01:00.0: firmware: failed to load nvidia/gm200/gr/sw_nonctx.bin (-2)"
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19:25<blast007>I don't know what the firmware actually provides so I'm not sure if it would have helped or not
19:25<somiaj>ahh there they are. Last time I looked I coulnd't find any firmware for my older 770 card, though I normally just use the non-free blob
19:27<somiaj>also looks like the firmware is new, most of it was added December 2016
19:27<somiaj>the Tegra GPU firmware was added a bit before that in October 2015
19:28<somiaj>blast007: I need to keep upto date better, when I was trying out nouveau 3 or so years ago, there wasn't any firmware, so I just assumed that was still the case.
19:29<blast007>it might only be relevant to the last 2 or 3 major nvidia card families
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19:34<somiaj>blast007: well I think there was also some work from nvidia to get nouveau to work better on the older cards, maybe the firmware was part of this 'help' too
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19:37<super_koza>Hi all! I have a problem with my fresh Debian install.
19:37<super_koza>Yesterday I installed Debian 9.
19:38<super_koza>I also installed Nvidia drivers and firmware for iwlwifi 8265.
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19:38<super_koza>Further more, I installed Debian after installing Windows 10, so I have a dual boot system.
19:38<somiaj>super_koza: how did you install the nvidia drivers?
19:38<somiaj>anyways, you should get to your actual problem.
19:38<super_koza>Yesterday it was all fine.
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19:39<super_koza>somiaj: I downloaded the .run from the Nvidia website, it worked without problems once I installed the dependencies...
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19:39<super_koza>That was not the problem...
19:39<somiaj>super_koza: that will be a problem.
19:40<blast007>!why nvidia-installer sucks
19:40<dpkg>nvidia-installer works fine for you today, granted. Let's say tomorrow Xorg is updated -- the nvidia driver will break. If you try to uninstall nvidia (nvidia-installer --uninstall), then you break Xorg badly. nvidia-installer overwrites files at random, and has NO CONCEPT of package management. We recommend against using it based on extensive experience. USE THE DEBIAN PACKAGES. Ask me about <nvidia>.
19:40<super_koza>I know that each time kernel is updated, I would need to reinstall Nvidia drivers.
19:40<super_koza>Nevermind, I will use the Debian packages.
19:41<somiaj>it is worse than that, an update of the gl libary can break things too
19:41<super_koza>I have a bigger problem now.
19:41<somiaj>what is it?
19:41<super_koza>I can't boot into Debian.
19:41<super_koza>It says iwlwifi 8265 error -2.
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19:42<supaman>you cant get to a console with ctrl-alt-f2?
19:42<super_koza>I need to mention that my Windows today did some checking and repairing on its C: local disk.
19:43<super_koza>I tried f1, didn't try f2...
19:43<somiaj>f1 is the default tty that xorg runs on now.
19:43<super_koza>Oh, ok. Not really experienced.
19:43<super_koza>But looking to learn...
19:43<somiaj>anyways, yea I would disable the display manager or try to figure out what is really going on. I don't think the iwlwifi error is what is stoping you from booting.
19:43<blast007>my F1 is the login screen, F2 is my Xorg session
19:43<blast007>(the graphica login screen)
19:44<somiaj>it almost sounds like a gpu issue if it looks like it is booting, but then just stays blank, which could be because you didn't use the nvidia package.
19:44<somiaj>but until you track down what is not starting at boot, hard to be positive.
19:44<super_koza>Ok, I will try F1-F6 and see if I get anything going and then report back.
19:45<super_koza>Anything I should keep in mind or do?
19:45<somiaj>if you can get to another tty, then it is most likely xorg and your video driver causing issue.
19:45<supaman>look through dmesg or pastebinit and send the url here
19:46<super_koza>How do I do that from the terminal? :D
19:46<supaman>!pastebinit
19:46<dpkg>A command-line tool to send data to a <pastebin>. To paste e.g. your sources.list do "aptitude install pastebinit; pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list"; to paste the output of a program do e.g. "dmesg | pastebinit". See also <pastebinit config>, <nopaste>.
19:46<somiaj>and I would first start by cleaning up the nvidia installer and then intstalling the drivers using debian packages. AT least fix that before trying to debug further.
19:47<super_koza>Would this be enough to remove Nvidia drivers sudo apt-get remove --purge nvidia-*?
19:47<supaman>perhaps the debian installer should give out a warning against the Nvidia drivers when it detects an nvidia card?
19:48<blast007>if you installed from the nvidia site, there won't be any package to remove
19:49<super_koza>How do I remove it?
19:49<supaman>yeah, no .deb pakcage to remove since it was a shell script (I assume) that installed the driver and its files
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19:50<supaman>wasnt there some --uninstall option to the .run file from Nvidia?
19:50<blast007>supaman: looks like there may be a --uninstall argument you can pass to the .run file
19:50<super_koza>Ok, I have just seen that I could comment out the line in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf which blacklists nouveau.
19:51<super_koza>Is this a good idea?
19:51<blast007>probably not while the nvidia driver is installed
19:51<super_koza>Ok.
19:52<super_koza>Let me try to boot into terminal and what can be done.
19:52<super_koza>Be back soon...
19:52<blast007>there's a nvidia-installer-cleanup package that you can use after the uninstall
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19:55<super_koza>Hi!
19:55<super_koza>I'm back...
19:55<supaman>welcome back, how did it go?
19:55<super_koza>Bad.
19:55<super_koza>The cursor isn't even blinking. Can't do anything...
19:56<supaman>ok, try a reinstall then
19:56<supaman>there is no data there and no special configurations that you had done right?
19:56<super_koza>Here is a photo of the screen: https://ibb.co/hsUWLx
19:57<super_koza>Well, nothing too important. I just installed almost everything I need. -.-
19:57<blast007>might be able to chroot into it from the install CD and fix it that way
19:57<dvs>even firmware-iwlwifi?
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19:57<super_koza>Fuck.
19:58<super_koza>Ok.
19:58<super_koza>Another thing...
19:59<supaman>also note the following
19:59<supaman>!iwlwifi
19:59<dpkg>The iwlwifi Linux kernel driver supports several Intel 802.11n (WiFi Link, Wireless-N, Advanced-N, Ultimate-N) and 802.11ac adapters. Firmware is required, ask me about <non-free sources> and install the firmware-iwlwifi package to provide. Supported devices are listed at https://wiki.debian.org/iwlwifi . See also <iwlegacy>, <iwl7000>.
19:59<supaman>specially note the "Firmware is required"
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20:00<super_koza>So, I installed Windows (UEFI) and then installed Debian.
20:00<somiaj>super_koza: I doubt the firmware is the issue, these are just the errors getting printted to the screen, you system should work just fine without firmware.
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20:00<super_koza>Windows is the one booting normally.
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20:01<super_koza>If I want to get to Debian, I need to hit F11 and to explicitly choose Debian.
20:01<super_koza>Then the GRUB is loaded and I can choose between Debian and Windows.
20:01<somiaj>super_koza: you can have multiple efi files in the same efi partition, then you need to configure your firmware which one to boot as default.
20:01<super_koza>This should be done with efibootmgr?
20:01<somiaj>so you should be able to configure your firmware to choose the grub one instead of the windows .efi file as default
20:02<somiaj>I would just use the firmware, but yes I belive you should be able to configure this form the os too
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20:02<super_koza>Explain. How do you mean just use the firmware?
20:03<super_koza>supaman: What did you meant with iwlwifi? I installed the firmware after Debian installation, from Debian repo.
20:03<supaman>super_koza: ah, ok, just making sure :-)
20:03<super_koza>supaman: Ok, thanks a lot!
20:05<super_koza>somiaj: What did you mean with firmware?
20:05<somiaj>super_koza: I mean I doubt those firmware errors you are seeing are why your machine isn't booting
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20:06<super_koza>No, no... Not that. This "so you should be able to configure your firmware to choose the grub one instead of the windows .efi file as default"
20:06<super_koza>Also, I just noticed that there is an exception in the image I linked...
20:07<somiaj>super_koza: hitting f2 for 'setup' when you boot, this use to be called the bios, but is now just firmwre
20:07<somiaj>or del, or whatever your firmware has for hits configuration/setup tool
20:07<b17>super_koza: exception? wow i haven't heard that since winnt
20:08<supaman>b17: says so there right on his screenshot "ACPI Exception: AE_NOT_FOUND" :-)
20:08<somiaj>you might also want to check your acpi settings in your firwmare setup too, sometimes they have a option like 'non windows os' that really helps with linux.
20:09<b17>ah... yeah I do get some ae_not_found but they are just warnings AFAIK
20:10<super_koza>Ok, so firmware = this new graphical BIOS :D
20:10<supaman>well, to be specific it is called UEFI firmware (to distinguish it from other firmware) :-)
20:11<supaman>sooo many firmware floating around
20:11<super_koza>I haven't found anything useful there. I could only select the disk from which to boot...
20:11<super_koza>I actually wanted to write UEFI, but didn't want to seem stupid as people force the term firmware here a lot... :D
20:11<b17>super_koza: these things take time, there's a long wiki page on uefi somewhere.
20:11<super_koza>Ok, now we are on the same page...
20:12<super_koza>b17: which things?
20:12<b17>these newfangled idears like uefi
20:13<b17>i guess it is pretty much standard now
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20:13<super_koza>Yeah. I just got my first PC with UEFI, so I guess everybody else has it already for a long time... :D
20:14<super_koza>Let me reboot and see if I can set Debian as default in the UEFi.
20:14<super_koza>Be back soon.
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20:15<ais-admin>There is also the (wrong but works) option of after booting linux, get a root cmd window and copy your grub efi image over on top of the windows efi image. They're just files on the efi partition. You will never be able to use the windows boot loader again (unless you make a backup), but sounds like superkoza doesn't want to anyway. Anyone ever tried that trick?
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20:23<super_koza>Hi! I'm back.
20:23<super_koza>Of course there are settings in the UEFI. They were just buried many clicks away...
20:24<super_koza>Thanks a lot for helping with this one too... :)
20:24<ais-admin>So you were able to choose the grub loader as default in the firmware?
20:25<super_koza>Yes.
20:25<ais-admin>excellent!
20:25<dvs>boo!
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20:26<super_koza>I figured, another option would be to remove Grub and just select whatever OS I want with F11 on boot.
20:26<super_koza>With that Quick boot option...
20:27<super_koza>But in that case one would lose the recovery option...
20:27<super_koza>Grub is just fine...
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20:28<super_koza>I have no idea what actually caused my system not to boot anymore. I will try reinstalling it again tomorrow. It is getting **really** late now...
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20:29<super_koza>Many thanks to the community!
20:29<b17>grub isn;t fine it's grand, way to go.
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20:31<csmall>Is anyone aware of issues with touchpads in sid as of recent updates?
20:32<csmall>After I updated yesterday I can no longer right click on the touchpad
20:33<csmall>It's weird, if I hold down on the touchpad it will right-click on SOME things but not all.
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20:41<cyberkali>ciao
20:42<cyberkali>qualcuna?
20:42<blast007>csmall: testing/unstable is supported in #debain-next
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20:44<bremner>dpkg: tell cyberkali about it
20:46<cyberkali>a cosa serve?
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21:13<Guest4849>I used to use unetbootin to make bootable usb's but its not in repo anymore. Anyone know the best way to do it these days?
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21:14<awal1>!unetbooting
21:14<Guest4849>!unetbootin
21:14<dpkg>UNetbootin (Universal Netboot Installer) allows creation of bootable USB drives for a variety of Linux distributions. http://unetbootin.sf.net/ Not recommended for use with Debian CD/DVD images, as it mangles the installer in cruel and unusual ways, resulting in hard to debug problems. Ask me about <hybrid images>, <usb install>, <win32diskimager>.
21:14<Guest4849>!usb install
21:14<dpkg>You can install Debian from a USB stick/thumbdrive/pen drive/key on x86 systems, as long as your system's BIOS can boot from USB. Details are in the Installation Guide, see http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch04s03 and ask me about <install debian> for hybrid CD/DVD images. Use http://sf.net/projects/win32diskimager/ to write images from Windows. For BIOSes not capable of USB boot, ask me about <plop>.
21:15<awal1>Guest4849, all you want is just cp if in a gnu/linux system or win32diskimager if in windows
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21:19<Guest4849>awal1, should I use rsync instead?
21:20<somiaj>just use cp
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21:20<Guest4849>should I use my destination as /dev/sdb1 or /dev/sdb?
21:21<somiaj>the second, /dev/sdb (it is a disk image, not a partition image)
21:21<dvs>and sync afterwards
21:22<Guest4849>somiaj, so I use first delete all partitions using cfdisk?
21:22<somiaj>Guest4849: no need, the image contains a full partition table, writing it to /dev/sdb will destory the current parittion table and all data on /dev/sdb (so make sure it is the right disk)
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21:24<Guest4849>I'm using the firmware-9.3.0-i386-netinsta.iso btw, cause it has firmware built in, although not official. Anyone had problems and recommends not to do it
21:25<dvs>Thats the version I recommend. (the amd64 version though)
21:25<somiaj>Guest4849: the only difference between that and the offical image is the non-free firmware. It is fine.
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21:26<Guest4849>if after I run cp firmware-9.3.0-i386-netinst.io /dev/sdb, and then open another terminal and do du -sh /dev/sdb, and it return 0? I guess I did something wrong. Should have created a partition /dev/sdb1?
21:26<awal1>https://www.debian.org/releases/wheezy/amd64/ch04s03.html.en
21:26<poulpy>hi all
21:26<awal1>Guest4849, that still applicable for stretch
21:26<poulpy>can someone help me with running kde on my nvidia chipset (I have a laptop with intel + nvidia chips)
21:26<Guest4849>Or, how do I verify copy was successfull, Mount the iso usb and look?
21:27<somiaj>Guest4849: or just try to boot from it, if you didn't get any errors it should be sucessful.
21:27<somiaj>!tell poulpy about bumblebee
21:28<somiaj>poulpy: that should point you in the right direction. That optimius mix is kinda of a pain to get working in debian.
21:28<somiaj>Guest4849: just be sure to run sync afterwards
21:28<Guest4849>somiaj, oh crap I forgot to do that, thx for reminding me. Did I ruin my usb?
21:29<poulpy>somiaj: I've tried bumblebee but it uses the intel chip
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21:29<poulpy>except if I run an app with their "optirun"
21:29<somiaj>poulpy: I think the way it works is you run xorg using the intel chip, and then use bumblebee when launching a 3d program you want to use the nvidia chip.
21:29<poulpy>I would like to run the entire kde on my nvidia chip, having the interface and chrome accelerated
21:29<somiaj>correct, that I think is how it works in debian. I don't think you can get much better. Ubuntu (dont' like saying this) be a better choice for that hardware
21:30<somiaj>they have some other method that isn't in debian for dealing with that hardawre
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21:30<poulpy>I nearly tried kubuntu, Ive downloaded the install
21:30<poulpy>but at the very last moment I gave debian an other try
21:31<poulpy>jessie, buster, non-free, backports, bumblebee
21:31<poulpy>ive tried a lot of thing
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21:32<somiaj>my undersatnding (and it could be incorrect) is that bumblebee is how to use optimius in debian which is as you said, mostly the intel chipset, but you can use optirun to run certain thigns with the nvidia chipset.
21:32<somiaj>Ubuntu has some other method, primus or something like that, which I don't think is in debian.
21:32<somiaj>but unsure, as things change on me.
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21:34<Guest4849>I tried cp --verbose -rf but it doesn't give progress, is there another way?
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21:35<somiaj>Guest4849: I think so, but they are hacky. It shouldn't take to long, run cp and wait. When it is done run sync. If you have no errors, it worked.
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21:38<Guest4849>somiaj, it worked, but I have a suspect usb, it isn't returning, taking too long.
21:39<Guest4849>it worked on one of my usb sticks, not the other, it is stuck
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21:39<Guest4849>dollarama tech1 usb stick doesn't work
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21:47<awal1>:D
21:47<awal1>dollarama usb sound bad hardware for sure :P:D
21:48<awal1>i find kingston very good
21:48<awal1>very good under gnulinux
21:51<poulpy>somiaj: I will try ubuntu indeed they have a better support for my monstruosity
21:51<poulpy>its hard to say goodbye to debian :(
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21:53<somiaj>poulpy: you might be able to look around to see if there is any progress on that hardawre in debian, but outside of bumblebee I have not see anything.
21:53<somiaj>,v primus
21:53<judd>Package: primus on amd64 -- wheezy-backports: 0~20130904-1~bpo70+1; jessie: 0~20140711-1; jessie-backports: 0~20150328-4~bpo8+1; stretch: 0~20150328-4; buster: 0~20150328-6; sid: 0~20150328-6
21:53<somiaj>hmm primus is in debian, I thik this is partly what ubuntu uses, but unsure on the details.
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21:54<somiaj>seems primus can be used along side of bumblebee and contains a primusrun
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21:57<Guest4849>oh crap, the mouse driver is obscure for me here, and I selected graphical install. I hope I can tab my way through
21:57<somiaj>you have time to restart if you haven't started anything and switch to text based
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21:58<poulpy>im installing bumblebee-nvidia and prime, to give a last try
21:59<poulpy>but last time I tried I could not run kde entirely on the nvidia chip
21:59<poulpy>but maybe there is a way, I will see, while i'm downloading ubuntu ^^
22:00<somiaj>maybe you have to launch kde with primusrun, and so you'll have to rewrite the xsession that is used to launch kde
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22:03<Guest4849>graphical install seems to be pretty much same as text install, just has colours instead of black and green/blue
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22:39<Guest4849>my install hung at "select and install software", so I rebooted. it is lookiing for grub, how can I continue where I left off, or do I have to restart whole thing?
22:40<Guest4849>graphics install rescure mode?
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22:47<teatime> /win 22
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22:50<Guest4849>never again gui install, on text
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22:50<Guest4849>Anyone know how to continue an install just goes to grub rescue?
22:53<b17>Guest4849: https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch05s02.html.en#idm46300558060016
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23:02<b17>Guest4849: If the installer seesm to hang, try vt4 or 3, ctrl-alt-F4 or so
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23:04<Guest4849>what the difference between the various kernels to choose from, -686-pae, 4.9.0-4-686
23:05<b17>The metapkg 4.9.0-4-686 will keep you up to date later it just means 'the latest'
23:06<s3a>Guest4849, also, pae stands for "physical address extension," which means "some kind of trick" to be able to access up to 16 GB of RAM on a 32-bit system (to my knowledge).
23:06<Guest4849>thx b17
23:07<s3a>(bcuz 32-bit systems r generally limited to 4gb)
23:08<b17>hmm, thay may be wrong what i said you probably want linux-image-4.9-686 or soemthing like that
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23:11<b17>wrong again the metapkg here is linux-image-amd64 so no version
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23:18<somiaj>b17: 4.9.0-4-686 is an abi version, the meta package woudl just be linux-image-amd64
23:19<somiaj>oh missed you correct that
23:19<somiaj>Guest4849: you want the 4.9.0-6-686 kernel from security, it has both the meltdown and specture fixes.
23:19<somiaj>the reason for the different number -4, -5, -6, is the abi version, since adding these additional features changed the abi of the kernel.
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23:20<b17>yeah tat always confused me on the installer, if you do any other you will not have current ver
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23:22<somiaj>yea, get the meta package, so you can get security updates if the abi changes.
23:22<somiaj>debian tries not to change the abi, but this is not always possible, such as the latest fixes for metldown and spectre.
23:23<b17>i need to snag the new one myself i haven't seen any bad reports so I guess I'm ready
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23:32<Guest4849>somiaj, thx
23:32<Guest4849>s3a thx
23:34<s3a>yw :)
23:35<Guest4849>I had already picked 4.9.0-4-686, I'm sure it'll be fine.
23:35<Guest4849>But I wanted to know what pae means anyway. And I glad to learn I didn't need it.
23:36<somiaj>You'll have to install (and should) the meta package linux-image-amd64 if it wasn't isntalled during this.
23:36<somiaj>any reason you are using 32bit and nost just amd64?
23:36<Guest4849>I have 32 bit laptop, it is old one
23:36<somiaj>and all pae does is give you access to >4GB of ram.
23:36<somiaj>Are you sure it is only 32bit? Anways trust ya, it must be old.
23:36<Guest4849>its only 1g installed
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23:37<Guest4849>I ran lscpu from the previous install, what will tell me the actual hardware right, not just the version I installed?
23:37<Guest4849>it EeePC netbook, pretty sure it is 32bit
23:38<Guest4849>Runs debian pretty smooth, no problems
23:38<somiaj>You recall what cpu it is? And yea, I would imange lscpu would give the specs of the cpu, nto teh os running.
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23:38<somiaj>its fine, just rare to see only 32bit cpus these days
23:38<Guest4849>Its a dual core
23:38<Guest4849>Its the last one I will ever see too.
23:41<Guest4849>I did all the same steps but in text mode it worked np, and in gui mode, it froze and I had to start over.
23:42<somiaj>well glad it worked out
23:44<Guest4849>Some EFI warning came up, I selected force install it to efi.
23:45<Guest4849>Failed to find cpu0 node
23:46<Guest4849>Boots up fine, looks nice, no more shows users, gotta manually enter username -more secure that way.
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