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#debian IRC Logs for 2018-02-24

---Logopened Sat Feb 24 00:00:20 2018
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00:01-!-Darcidride_ is "Quentin" on #ceph #debian #debian-boot #debian-gnome #debian-next #gcc #observium #osm #ovirt #qemu #virt
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00:39<doxy>Hi
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00:40<J311Y>lol
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02:17<Maruf>hi
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02:22<laccio>hello i'm a new user of OPENVAS
02:22<laccio>i have faced with problem
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02:23<laccio>i learned to scan local machine, now i want to scan remote machine servers
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02:26<annadane>laccio, and the problem is?
02:26<annadane>unless by problem you mean "how do i scan remote machine servers"
02:27<annadane>i won't be able to help you as i know nothing about it but it helps to clarify your question
02:29<annadane>laccio, you can try reading the man page as well if you have general questions, "man openvas"
02:30<annadane>oh it apparently doesn't even have one
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08:47-!-funnel is "funnel" on #mm #linuxfs #openttd #debian-glibc #debian-boot #smuxi #gcc #powerdns #debian-hurd #qemu #freedombox #ck #debian-ipv6 #pwmt #vcs-home #qtile #kvm #fish #ext4 #xen #sd #debian-it #gc-linux #logcheck #mci @#exvm @#cursive #antlr #acal #flect #igloo #tinc #colinux #cryptocat #davical
08:47-!-Ganneff is "Joerg Jaspert" on #debian-ops #debconf18-taiwan #oftc-status #oftc-staff #spi #debian-offtopic #debian-devel-changes #debian-kbsd #debian-lists #debian-boot #debian-publicity #help #debian-mia #debconf-hamburg #debconf15-germany @#debian-forums-teams #debian-forums #debconf15-de @#backuphackers @#debian-ch @#nsb2 @#wed-fd @#gph.tw @#lugfd @#german #debian-dak #meetbot #debconf-nyc
08:47-!-bzed is "Bernd Zeimetz" on #vserver @#oftc #awesome #debian #osm-de #debian-sparc #oftc-status #oftc-staff #debian-apt #ikiwiki #debian-devel-changes #debian-glibc #debian-lists #powerdns #osm #debian-mia #debian.ch #parisc #debian-gis #pkg-phototools #debian-zope #debian-data #debian-hw #storage
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08:47-!-DLange is "Daniel Lange" on #moocows #vserver #oftc #kernelnewbies #gentoo #debian #virt @#salsa #ubuntu-expats #debconf18-taiwan #spi #ceph-devel #ceph #debian-lists #debian-boot #qemu #debian-publicity #debian-quebec #debian-gnome #debconf-hamburg @#cdchina @#cdchange #debian-dpp #debconf16-capetown
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09:36<kelek>Hi there
09:37<kelek>I have a specific question concerning lftp and ls - am i in the right place ?
09:37<bremner>are you using Debian?
09:38<kelek>A derivative distro : MX17
09:39<bremner>then you should ask in their support channel/forum
09:39<kelek>MX17 (stretch based) XFCE+LXDE
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09:41<kelek>lftp and ls aren't specific to MX17, it comes directly from stretch repos
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09:43<blast007>!not debian
09:43<dpkg>Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare http://futurist.se/gldt/). #debian only supports Debian and pure <blend>s; please respect our choice to volunteer here to help Debian users. Support for other distributions is off-topic on #debian, even if your own distro's channel is clueless or non-existent.
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09:44<kelek>TY for your kind answer - a very polite way to eject me :)
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10:33<beatrice>Hello. I have updated/upgraded my debian testing 2 days ago, after a long time. I had no dependencies probs. But some important programs stopped working. Firefox starts (I see the waiting icon and the name in the activity bar), but never shows up. No windows open. a process is listed with "ps aux". Almost same thing with Chromium (installed fresh), libreoffice (I see only the initial splash screen, no windows ever pops up). mpv opens up, I have sound,
10:33<beatrice>no image. I think it my be related with the display settings. I don't even know on which package submit a bug report, if any. Any idea what might be going on? thanks
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10:53<supaman>beatrice: try starting FF or something from the command line, hopefully you will get some error message that we can build on
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11:03<beatrice>I tried. nothing happens. I use "firefox-esr" nothing printed on the terminal. with ps aux I can see 2 firefox-esr lines in the processes. I tried "soffice". I saw the splash screen with the red line showing the progress of the initial loading, but that's it. nothing printed on terminal. In both cases the command on terminal does not exit. stays like that like if the program was running.
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11:04<beatrice>which it is, I imagine. I just dont see it anywhere. With Alt-TAB no windows for FF/libreoffice. In this Chromium is slightly different because with Alt-TAB I see there should be a window. But it is empty. Not even window decoration (title..). I see it with alt-tab, but if I select it nothing is shown
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11:12<supaman>beatrice: strange, try reinstalling one of those apps (FF for example)
11:13<beatrice>I tried several things: removed .mozilla dir. I removed completely the firefox-esr package and I installed chromium (never had it before). I reinstalled FF. I tried booting a previous kernel. nothing worked so far.
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11:14<beatrice>it almost looks like the programs are going somewhere which is not my desktop. Some things works fine. The desktop itself. mutt. GNU R. the default Video prog to watch movies. the net. But I haven't tried everything of course
11:15<supaman>jikes
11:15<bremner>"the net"??
11:16<beatrice>I mean the connection. I can ping. I can send/receive mail.
11:16<bremner>beatrice: have you tried starting the troublesome programs from a terminal?
11:16<beatrice>I can connect with ssh to my desktop to sync my files. I can search for available updates with aptitude (I thought maybe the prob could resolve itself with another update, if I chose a wrong moment)
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11:17<beatrice>bremner, yes. supaman already suggested. I wrote about it in my message of 15 mins ago.
11:18<bremner>*shrug*, ok.
11:19<supaman>any error message with dmesg or journalctl -xm
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11:30<beatrice>There is a lot to read there. I will try reboot and get a clean one. maybe then I could use pastebin.
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11:30<supaman>ok
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11:30<RockB>hi
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11:30<beatrice>for instance now if I tried to close the terminal where I started FF. It warns me that there is a process still running.
11:31<supaman>yeah, they are definetely running, but why they don't appear on the screen is a mystery to me
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11:46<beatrice>I might have found a clue. https://paste.debian.net/1011779/ . It is only the new lines that show after I try to start Libreoffice. at 13.34.43 (and following lines) there is a "gnome-shell[1266]: Object Clutter.Clone (0x55afae771840)" error . it might be it , I think
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11:54<grove>I'm tempted to add myself to the group the lxc tools use for the unprivileged guests I've installed (as myself), guided by the Debian Wiki. The idea is that my backup script should get happy. Any side effects I need to be aware of?
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12:20<beatrice>LOL. if I close the terminal where I started libreoffice. It warns me a process is running. it closes. and *poof* Libreoffice appears! I think I will try to file a bug report on gnome-shell.
12:22<bremner>I guess you could try installing another desktop like xfce to test
12:25<beatrice>yeah. I did not think about that. I should have plenty of space anyway. It would take time to adapt I imagine, but I might even like it.
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12:48<mari>hola
12:48<annadane>!es
12:48<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
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12:54<Colby>El debain
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12:57<MickeyLater>Hi. What's the reason a single-user system's root account gets locked? I mean when the one user is also the admin.
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13:06<somiaj>MickeyLater: Did you set a password for root during the install?
13:06<MickeyLater>somiaj: No, I chose the option not to set a root password
13:07<somiaj>that is why it is locked, you dont' want people to be able to log in as root without a password.
13:07<somiaj>you can set a password and unlock it if needed.
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13:07<MickeyLater>somiaj: the problem is that, following shutdown, the system wouldn't boot at all because the root account was locked. It permitted me to enter my user password but then froze on a blank background screen with unresponsive kb and mouse
13:09<MickeyLater>somiaj: I used the rescue option in the netinstaller to set a root password and the problem persisted so I reinstalled
13:09<MickeyLater>this time I did a default install and everything works fine
13:09<somiaj>That seems strange, are you sure that was the cause? I don't see why locking the root account would do that, and the method of locking the root user works fine in the situations I have
13:09<MickeyLater>I haven't even added myself to sudo group
13:10<somiaj>I don't think the issue was due to not setting a root password.
13:10<MickeyLater>then i'm not sure what happened.
13:10<MickeyLater>But soon after that there was an update to the kernel so maybe someone noticed and fixed a bug
13:10<somiaj>well the update was due to fixes for meltdown and spectre, I don't expect that was the case either.
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13:11<somiaj>But since you now have it fixed, no sense trying to guess what it could be without some actual logs.
13:11<MickeyLater>Maybe this has something to do with it: I made a requests GET request that returned status 302. I saved the response text and opened it in a browser to inspect it.
13:12<MickeyLater>perhaps the response had malware in it
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13:13<MickeyLater>the GET request was to cbc.ca. Possibly some baddie intercepted the request or a dev at the news outlet decided to mess with me
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13:36<beatrice>thanks for the suggestions. have a good day, all.
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16:06<terrible>does anyone know how can i install qcma the playstation vita manager for linux in debian stretch???
16:07<annadane>,v qcma
16:07<judd>No package named 'qcma' was found in amd64.
16:08<terrible>judd: is not in the repos list
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16:11<terrible>judd: here the homepages
16:11<terrible>https://codestation.github.io/qcma/
16:11<terrible>but when i follow the step on the pages give me this error
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16:12<terrible>Echoz: Malformed entry 2 in list file /etc/apt/sources.list.d/qcma.list (Suite)
16:12<terrible>Echoz: The list of sources could not be read.
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16:12<terrible>any help
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16:33<piper>terrible: did you do as root
16:33<piper>echo 'deb http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/codestation/Debian_9.0/ /' > /etc/apt/sources.list.d/qcma.list
16:33<terrible>piper: yes i did
16:33<piper>then apt update
16:33<terrible>i did exactly as the pages say
16:34<piper>well it works here (i use sid) i did not install pubkey though
16:34<piper>only because i don't want to install this
16:35<piper>let me test it, i can remove it
16:35<terrible>piper: do you have a ps vita?
16:35<petn-randall>piper: Show us the output of 'cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/qcma.list' please, verbatim.
16:36<carla>hi all. installed debian 9.3 yesterday, fresh download i386 network install, for an old 32bit laptop. switched from OpenSuse, as no i386 for OpenSuse leap. coming from OpenSuse, I installed with KDE option, but sddm didn't start correctly, no visible error msg. tried now again with gnome, as you see me, this works. Is the KDE fail a known bug, should I report it?
16:37<petn-randall>carla: Did kde select sddm for you?
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16:37<carla>hmmm. I didn't :-) just said "KDE" and "SSH" during setup, everything else default
16:37<piper>terrible my apt update after the echo and adding key http://paste.debian.net/1011814/
16:38<petn-randall>carla: I don't know if you can debug it, but I would have checked why sddm fails to come up.
16:38*piper on phone for minute
16:39<petn-randall>piper: You aren't running stable, so all bets are off.
16:40<petn-randall>piper: It looks to me like you're running siduction.
16:40<petn-randall>!siduction
16:40<dpkg>siduction is, like, a distribution that is <based on Debian> sid. It is not supported in #debian. Try #siduction on irc.oftc.net. http://siduction.org/
16:40<petn-randall>piper: Try out their channel above, they might be able to help. ^^^
16:40<carla>petn-randall: where are the logs? X started somehow, but only with a blinking cursor in the upper left corner. tried "startx" manually, starts a blank GUI and a movable mouse cursor, nothing else
16:40<petn-randall>(since it's not reproducible on Debian)
16:40<petn-randall>carla: 'journalctl -u sddm' would show you the logs from sdd.
16:40<petn-randall>*sddm
16:42<annadane>i think piper knows and is just being a troll :D
16:42<carla>ok. tried systemctl status sddm.service, said "failed" but real info why.
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16:45<petn-randall>carla: Right, that will only show you an excerpt of the logs. The above command will show you all.
16:46<carla>ok thx. I'll think about if I stay on gnome or try again t debug the KDE/Plasma issue(s)
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16:52<carla>other question: I've tried a WIFI based install first. as this old laptop needs ipw2200 firmware (non-free), I've tried to download as documented here: https://wiki.debian.org/ipw2200#Installation_via_Debian_Installer and here: https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch06s04.html.en. The "official" Linux firmware homepage for this firmware is here: http://ipw2200.sourceforge.net/ but all final links are dead, e.g. ht
16:52<carla>tp://ipw2200.sourceforge.net/firmware.php?fid=8 leading finally to http://bughost.org/firmware/ipw2200-fw-3.1.tgz. Maybe off-topic, but does anyone know who ownes (or owned?) "bughost.org"?
16:53<piper>petn-randall what you talking about, i also have a debian sid machine next to me, I don't need help, helping someone else, and from what i read at other forums this should work in stable (8.0 & 9.0+) also not just sid
16:54<piper>i would never ask for help here
16:54<piper>i build my own, i break it i fix it
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16:55<piper>terrible, no i don't have a ps vita, but it installs fine
16:55<piper>so i tested it for you, now i can purge it
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16:58<petn-randall>piper: Oh right, I mixed you two up, sorry about that.
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16:59<piper>petn-randall: thats ok
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17:19<vivus>hello all
17:20<vivus>if I run debian unstable, how "unstable" can I expect my machine to be?
17:20<@Ganneff>depends on how skilledyou are in fixing problems
17:20<@Ganneff>and how much time you want to invest
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17:21<silver>vivus: so unstable that it vibrates and glows
17:21<vivus>so I shouldn't run unstable if I want a working desktop machine that I don't have time to tinker and repair?
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17:24<silver>vivus: stable is very good right now as well as testing. But like Ganneff mentioned with unstable you would still have to research what to update and when.
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17:28<vivus>so I can't do apt update every few days with unstable?
17:29<silver>im not sure if i would ever recommand doing that with unstable
17:30<silver>maybe with testing but if even then if one dependency has notmade it into testing from sid then you would have broken packages
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17:31<somiaj>vivus: there are auto upgrade tools, if you are running unstable I would strong suggest you don't use such things, and also unstable support is in #debian-next.
17:31<silver>much is being worked on right now so since this is not #debian-next the most promising information would be to run stable
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17:51<MickeyLater>how should I back up my OS if I'm going to roll the dice and upgrade to testing?
17:52<supaman>safest way is to back it up to another drive, use dd or dd_rescue for that
17:53<MickeyLater>thanks. and sorry, I thought I'd switched to #debian-next for that question
17:55<supaman>thats a perfectly valid question for here, you are currently running stable right so this is the right place :-)
17:56<MickeyLater>thanks :) I read up on ddrescue and it says to use a mapfile. Does ddrescue generate a mapfile when you back up the OS?
17:57<supaman>hmmm, dunno .. I use it always to copy from one hard drive to another
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17:59<teatime>you can just use dd if your HDD isn't failing
17:59<teatime>or lvm snapshots, or whatever
17:59<silver>http://www.forensicswiki.org/wiki/Ddrescue
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18:01<silver>sorry thats the wrong link here is the right one http://www.forensicswiki.org/wiki/Dd_rescue
18:03<supaman>!backup
18:03<dpkg>A backup is something you should do *ALWAYS*. if you value your sh*t in the least. Otherwise eons of built-up data can go BYE BYE FOREVER one day if you do not; either by HD malfunction, intentional evil by crackers, mischievous glak elves invading your system, or large magnets getting out of hand. Pay the dollars for a tape system or CDR and use <tar> (optionally with bzip2 at lowest compression). See <things to backup>.
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18:06<vivus>interesting. I will discuss this with the other person who is running the derivative distro, as they run unstable
18:07<silver>debian is the center of the universe
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18:08<MickeyLater>"After You've Stood On a Log at the Center of the Universe, What Else is There Left to Do?" -- title of a short story by Larry Niven
18:09<supaman>go to "the restaurant at the end of the universe"
18:10<MickeyLater>I'm serious that he wrote a short story with that title. It was in _Convergent Series_ I think
18:10<supaman>the title of a long story by Douglas Adams :-)
18:10<supaman>don't doubt you, just wanted to add to it :-)
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18:20<MickeyLater>I'm not too concerned about backing up my data onto a big flash drive I have plugged into the back of my tower all the time. Even backing up the local git repos isn't hard, you just create a remote on the flash drive and push your local repo to it. But I don't know if I want to keep loading the local mirror's servers with installation bandwidth and usage from frequent reinstalls
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18:40<vivus>you should be careful about backing anything up to a flash
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19:37<bytor>I am running Knoppix 7.6 Stable. I am irked that when running memory intensive applications, like Chrome plus Facebook or Youtube, with a lot of open tabs... System memory usage goes through the roof, and unexpectedly grinds the whole system to a halt. I even have a quad processor system... it stalls out to the point even mouse movement is not registered. cannot even switch over to text console. have to wait for up to 10 minutes somet
19:37<bytor>imes just to regain ability to have input into system, control back. HOW can I guard myself in the future to WARN before system resources like memory usage are at a dangerously high level??? is there a WAY???
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19:44<awal1>dpkg: knoppix
19:44<dpkg>Knoppix is _not_ Debian. Seek Knoppix help in freenode's #knoppix. Knoppix is a live CD distribution which is <based on Debian>, useful as a rescue CD, to test hardware, and for situations where you have access to a computer but it isn't Debian. http://www.knoppix.org/ unofficial: http://Debian-knoppix.alioth.Debian.org/ <Debian-live> is the Debian equivalent for publishing live systems.
19:45<awal1>kytor ^
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19:51<bytor>dpkg: bytor
19:51<dpkg>bytor is just this guy you know, and now goes by bytopian (sometimes) and can be reached for comment at mailto:brock@cyberdude.com and has a weird arse philosophical / free software zealotous web site, ask about <freesoftwarepaper> be there are be round or square.
19:53<bytor>Are there any resource monitors that can pop-up graphical alarms say at 85% memory usage, and potentially suspend the offending process?
19:53<bytor>(automatically that is)
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19:58<silver>bytor: Your processor is 1.20GHz but im just curious how much RAM you have and if you can upgrade it or add swap space
20:00<silver>and is this a notebook or a desktop?
20:00<bytor>silver: I have 4 CPUs each 1.2ghz 3gb ram and 12gb swap partition, desktop.
20:00<silver>no you have four cores (threads) on one cpu
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20:02<silver>swap space is a bit big. i think i remember reading somewhere it should be something like 3 times the amount of RAM but i could be wrong.
20:02<silver>desktop is gnome?
20:02<bytor>ram is upgradable... but that's not the point. A system should not just freeze/ stall out without some kind of warning. at say 85% ram usage, there should be a warning. and if system totally stalls out, there should be an automatic SUSPEND of the offending process.
20:03<supaman>might be overheating of the CPU
20:03<bytor>i'm using lxde/compiz
20:04<blast007>bytor: knoppix isn't supported here
20:04<silver>in chrome disable background processes, and set it to close background process after you close the tab or exit program. that may help but not much
20:04<bytor>supaman, no, it's always tied to memory usage. at 95% to close to 100% it stalls.
20:04<supaman>bytor: try running memtest, rule out hardware failure
20:05<silver>after that try debian and perhaps we can help more
20:08<bytor>I use "gnome system monitor" but I cannot set an alarm threshold with it. Is there any other resource monitor that can set alarms ?
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20:09<supaman>not that I know of no
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20:16<MickeyLater>hey, can I ask about an autoremove prompt I get in buster?
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22:23<iStrive>I'm trying to connect to a wifi network with the WPA password having $ and ! from a debian system, all other computer successfully connect but this linux box wont! what is the deal?
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22:23<iStrive>Mac,Windows Drois all accept these symbols...
22:23<somiaj>did you install the non-free firmware for your wifi card?
22:23<iStrive>yes
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22:24<iStrive>I can connect to other wifi netowkrs but this one with symbols won't!
22:25<somiaj>are you using network manager to connect or some otehr method?
22:25<iStrive>the network manager keeps asking for the passphrase
22:25<iStrive>wi-fi network authentication required....
22:26<iStrive>any restriction on debian for symbols in WPA?
22:26<somiaj>https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1625620
22:26<somiaj>iStrive: it is more that some special symbols have other meaning
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22:26<somiaj>that seems to suggest you can escape those symbols so \$ and \!
22:27<iStrive>where do I set this file?
22:28<silver>when you type it in he means
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22:29<silver>passphrase = *576463\$87675765\!
22:31<iStrive>shit starts with the $ so I'm entering \$xxx\!xxx and it's not working
22:32<iStrive>sorry, I didn't mean to type "shit" auto correct changed whatever was there...
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22:33<silver>the forum post somiaj posted mentioned it was only the exclamation point ! that was causing the issue
22:33<silver>dont forget to wiggle your nose... sometimes that helps with passwords\!
22:34<iStrive>even entering the $xxx\!xxx is not connecting
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22:38<silver>i have a question, how come im seeing a bunch of silver apple stickers on a lot of laptop when watching debcon videos?
22:38<silver>whats up with that shit?
22:39<iStrive>I don't know, but the password is not accepted!
22:39<silver>oh \¿
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22:44<mnuhmnuh>silver: maybe meltdown's scaring them from intel?
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22:45<silver>:)
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22:45<mnuhmnuh>not debian related really, though.
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22:49<silver>the kernel compiled with retpoline is already on its way to stable (now its deb related :)
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22:51<somiaj>on its way, it has already made it.
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22:53<silver>somiaj: was it a security patch?
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22:55<somiaj>yes, it hit a few days ago
22:56<somiaj>in stretch it is 4.9.0-6-amd64 (or whatever arch)
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