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#debian IRC Logs for 2018-03-07

---Logopened Wed Mar 07 00:00:36 2018
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00:20<rob_debian>hi all, please, where files obtained by 'wget' are storage by default in debian ?
00:20<rob_debian>storaged
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00:25<grawity>in the current directory (as set by 'cd' and shown by 'pwd')
00:26<grawity>also the word is 'stored'
00:35<rob_debian>hi grawity, nice to meet you again, and thanks for english correction :)
00:39<rob_debian>sorry grawity, I got a stupid mistake here, I forgot that I used 'root' user for 'wget' not normal user, and I was trying to find it in home directory.
00:41<rob_debian>Thank you for reminding me of the 'pwd' command, grawity ! If I had remembered it before, I would not be asking such a primary question here on the Debian support channel,
00:41<rob_debian>anyway, thanks for your patience and great support, grawity !:)
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04:31<Volley>trying to get pam to do what i want ... and confused by a few things i see in the current config (which i can't find in the docu). What does the "-" mean in some pam config files. for example there are some lines that start with "-auth" or "-session" instead of "auth" and "session"
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04:53<jm_>Volley: from the pam.conf man page If the type value from the list above is prepended with a - character ...
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04:58<narcan>Hello, I would like to use cron in foreground with -f argument, but it doesn't read my /etc/cron.d/<somefiles>
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04:59<narcan>how can I do in this case?
05:00<Anarka>increase log level, can be as simple as wrong owner on the /etc/cron.d/<somefiles>
05:01<narcan>the context is a docker container in debian 8 with a entrypoint like ["cron","-f"]
05:01<narcan>the /etc/cron.d/<somefiles> is a docker volume
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05:02<narcan>the cron file is owned by root:root
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05:03<Anarka>i know nothing about docker :)
05:03<Volley>jm_: aaah ... than you for the pointer, didn't see that.
05:03<narcan>I think it's just a system issue
05:03<Anarka>then increase log level and see why it fials
05:03<narcan>it's the reason why I ask my question here
05:04<narcan>I tried with -L 4
05:04<narcan>nothing happened
05:05<narcan>is it possible cron in foreground just read the /etc/crontab file?
05:06<narcan>when I put my crons rules in /etc/crontab, it works
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10:29<Sandy>after we upgrade from Wheezy to Jessie proxy is no longer working. Any idea? What commands to find out the root cause?
10:29<Sandy>Thanks
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10:34<jimpop>is there a way in Evolution to force the cursor (bar) to the first unread email when navigating to a folder?
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10:34<grove>Sandy: What proxy?
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10:36<Sandy>The system is in lab and it has proxy set up, so it could access to internet. But after grate it can't access to internet anymore
10:36<Sandy>grove
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10:44<cacatoes>Sandy: do you have access to the proxy log files?
10:44<cacatoes>jimpop: I doubt there is, though i don't use evolution
10:44<jimpop>cacatoes: ok, thx
10:45<cacatoes>there might be filters to only show unread messages
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10:51<cacatoes>https://projects-old.gnome.org/evolution/keys.shtml ; . or ] to jump to next unread message
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10:53<jimpop>yep, i use those.. just a bit of a pain to have to mouse click to switch folders and then press a key to get to the unread msg
10:55<cacatoes>in mutt these shortcuts cross the folders. evolution 0 - 1 mutt
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10:55<jimpop>:-)
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10:57<jhutchins>Sandy: I'm guessing you were not the one who set up the proxy on the original system. Did you read the release notes before upgrading?
10:57<machina>i didnt understand them
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10:58<esainz>coucou
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10:58<cacatoes>salut poilu
10:59<esainz>wtf
10:59<machina>hi to you too
10:59<machina>how do i get the files
10:59<esainz>alt f4
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10:59<machina>you do thew damn alt f4
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11:00<cacatoes>log files usually are in /var/log/<package_name>
11:00<cacatoes>that is, on the server running the proxy
11:01<machina>thats helping
11:01<cacatoes>you might also check the status of the service: systemctl status service_name
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11:01<machina>how do i so this /msg [MW]-XDCC-NoT0073 xdcc send #33
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11:02<blast007>machina: this is a support channel for Debian Linux, not a warez channel
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11:02<cacatoes>you can use [tab] to autocomplete service name, just type first letters the TAB
11:04<cacatoes>and you can ignore XDCC requests, their purpose is to send files over IRC
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11:04<grawity>well I think the question *was* "how do I receive a file using XDCC"
11:04<machina>i`m still new to this
11:05<machina>yes 'grawity'
11:05<blast007>machina: wrong IRC network for that sort of thing
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11:06<cacatoes>yeah, XDCCs might be in RFCs and RFCs are illegal as we know
11:07<machina>yea its illegal
11:07<machina>but i need to do it
11:07<blast007>machina: please go play elsewhere
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11:08<sabir>how do I make my close button right align?
11:09<Sandy>jhutchins, I didn't set the original proxy. But how upgrade has something to do with proxy? Does upgrade process change the proxy? Can you send me the link of release note? Thanks
11:09<grawity>it changes just about everything in the OS
11:09<solarplexus>sabir i think you have to change your desktop environment
11:09<cacatoes>Sandy: upgrades may overwrite service configuration
11:09<Sandy>cacatoes, I have access to proxy log file. Do you know where it is?
11:10<solarplexus>how do i install https://packages.debian.org/jessie/seq24
11:10<sabir>alright
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11:13<cacatoes>solarplexus: seq24 is not available in stretch, so one option is to use buster's repository, with low priority otherwise all your system will ask to switch to buster
11:13<blast007>no, do not do that
11:13<blast007>you do not want to mix stable and testing
11:14<solarplexus>ok so what do
11:14<blast007>!ssb
11:14<dpkg>First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>.
11:15<blast007>no guarantee it will build though. if I recall correctly, it was removed because it was failing to build from source.
11:15<solarplexus>well its not on backports
11:16<blast007>right.. so then you keep reading past the first sentence of that factoid :)
11:16<solarplexus>ya i tried downloading the source code and it didnt build
11:16<blast007>using the method described in that factoid?
11:17<solarplexus>!deb-src sid
11:17<dpkg>You can get apt to download source packages with a <deb-src> line in your <sources.list>. A suitable entry for the sid release is: "deb-src http://deb.debian.org/debian/ sid main contrib non-free". Remember to "apt-get update" after changing your sources.list.
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11:18<solarplexus>so after i add this to my sources list do i just run apt-get seq24?
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11:18<cacatoes>nope, see 3) above
11:18<mnuhmnuh>apt-get install ...
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11:20<blast007>solarplexus: the factoid gies you all the steps (replace 'packagename' with 'seq24')
11:20<blast007>gives*
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11:29<solarplexus>when i run aptitude update and aptitude install build-essential it says command not found
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11:29<annadane>aptitude: command not found? then install aptitude but you shouldn't need aptitude for that
11:30<blast007>apt-get has the same subcommands available
11:30<solarplexus>ok
11:31<solarplexus>should i run this as root or will it matter
11:33<annadane>don't run it as root
11:33<annadane>oh well for apt install, yes
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11:33<annadane>sorry
11:34<annadane>for the apt install steps in !ssb
11:34<blast007>the install and build-dep commands need to be run as root. the apt-get -b source should be run as your user.
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11:37<solarplexus>i ran the apt-get -b source and it says download is performed unsandboxed as root file seq2 couldnt be accessed by user '_apt'. - pkgAcquire: :Run (13: permission denied)
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11:38<solarplexus>ok ima try it as user
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11:39<solarplexus>it gives me an error as user too
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11:41<Sandy>after upgrade I use SystemConfig to set up network configuartion again including proxy. But it still can't connect to proxy. The setting is the same as before upgrade
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11:42<cacatoes>solarplexus: paste it, maybe 'cd' to a dir where you have write permissions in before running the command
11:43<solarplexus>ecipe for target 'clean' failed make: *** [clean] Error 1 dpkg-buildpackage: error: fakeroot debian/rules clean gave error exit status 2 E: Build command 'cd seq24-0.9.3 && dpkg-buildpackage -b -uc' failed.
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11:44<solarplexus>and when i ran it as root it gave me this ownload is performed unsandboxed as root file seq2 couldnt be accessed by user '_apt'. - pkgAcquire: :Run (13: permission denied)
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11:46<cacatoes>Sandy: i misunderstood, i thought you upgraded the machine hosting the proxy server. If it's only your notebook, I mean the client, maybe double-check the authentication if there is one, and check also system logs (with 'dmesg' or 'journalcatl')
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11:47<cacatoes>solarplexus: ensure your current directory is clean, are there remaining files owned by root in it?
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11:50<Sandy>cacatoes, thanks
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11:53<solarplexus>I deleted the seq24 files owned by root
11:53<solarplexus>and it still gives the error
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11:55<cacatoes>does it even attempt to build or it fails right after?
11:55<solarplexus>idk guys i think i might just find a different sequencer
11:55<blast007>solarplexus: I'm attempting the build here
11:55<cacatoes>aha, but seq24 is good
11:55<blast007>build worked here
11:57<blast007>mkdir ~/seq24build ; cd ~/seq24build ; apt-get -b source seq24
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11:59<solarplexus>yea it seems good idk what im doing wrong i will try making that directory and cd
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12:07<solarplexus>ok i ran that i dont think there are any errors
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12:08<blast007>solarplexus: okay, then you should be able to 'sudo dpkg -i seq24_0.9.3-2_amd64.deb' (or whatever the file is called). The dbgsym deb doesn't need to be installed.
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12:11<solarplexus>oh my god i love you blast
12:11<blast007>heh
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12:12<solarplexus>you dont know how long ive been tryna install that
12:14<solarplexus>ty guys peace
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12:15<Sandy>Before upgrade and after upgrade the SystemConfig command shows their network settings are the same which include prooxy. So why after upgrade proxy is no working?
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12:28<Sandy>Even after upgrade I set up proxy in /etc/environment , proxy is still not working
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12:43<cacatoes>Sandy: your proxy is only for web access? you might try to set it up directly in your web browser settings. But it'd be nice to produce the error lines happening when your application tries to connect to the proxy (i.e: try running your app from within a terminal)
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12:46<Volley>fighting with libpam-mount, libpam-ssh and libpam-kwallet5 ... is it normal that despite pam-mount being before all others, the others fail as if $HOME wouldn't be there yet?
12:50<Sandy>cacatoes, thanks. It is not just for web access. Do you know which files it overwrites during upgrade?
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12:52<cacatoes>Sandy: it was a supposition. You can find files installed a particular package with 'dpkg -L packagename', but finding the package name providing proxy client is not obvious, and I'd rather investigate as I just said: make your applications talk, start them from command line and see what they say when you connect.
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12:55<cacatoes>Sandy: you might even try with 'curl' program to access some page, Basic usage: $ curl 'https://www.debian.org'
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12:56<cacatoes>Sandy: curl has options to use proxy if you check its manpage, might be useful to adjust and test various settings. Though I admit I never set up proxies myself, should work.
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13:15<spacebug[m]1>easiest way to install Debian to a bootable USB stick while later still be able to write to the USB fisk (install programs etc).
13:15<spacebug[m]1>(Install instructions from a alrady booted Debian system).
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13:17<spacebug[m]1>could I just boot the iso in an KVM and choose the USB-stick as the taret drive?
13:17<spacebug[m]1>target*
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13:19<vjacob>spacebug[m]1, look for "debian live persistence" on google
13:20<vjacob>you need a proper size usb
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13:20<vjacob>didn't play much with it though... good luck :)
13:20<spacebug[m]1>thnx
13:22<spacebug[m]1>:)
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13:34<Sandy>After upgrade to Jessie from wheezy the system can't even ping gateway. so it is just not proxy problem. Its network is not working. Any idea?
13:34<abreu[m]>Guys and Gals, there's this shortcut, Alt+Space that makes a small menu apear with options related to Window management such as "Maximize", "Minimize", etc.
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13:35<abreu[m]>Photoshop uses the combination of Alt+Space as modifier keys quite often.
13:35<abreu[m]>Is there a way I can unset this shortcut? At least temporarily?
13:35<grawity>it does? well that's annoying
13:35<grawity>how does that even work
13:36<abreu[m]>I couldn't find a option for that in the Keyboard shortcuts window or in the Tweak Menu.
13:36<grawity>if you are using GNOME 3, `gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.wm.keybindings activate-window-menu "[]"`
13:37<abreu[m]>Oh yeah dconf, forgot about that.
13:37<abreu[m]>Thanks
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13:42<cacatoes>Sandy: try: 'ip route', and see if there is a route to your gateway there
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14:28<Sandy>cacatoes, tahnks. "ip route" is accurate
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14:30<Guest640>sim
14:30<Guest640>Olá mundo
14:31<Guest640>kkkkkk
14:31<annadane>!es
14:31<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
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14:32<Guest640>my name and guest640
14:32<cacatoes>!pt
14:32<dpkg>Por favor use #debian-pt para ajuda em portugues ou #debian-br para ajuda em portugues do brasil. ( /join #debian-pt )
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14:33<Guest640>hello
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14:34<cacatoes>hi
14:34<Guest640>Ola
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14:34<python3>ola
14:35<python3>#dedian-pt
14:35<python3>ola
14:35<python3>aola
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14:35<annadane>^^^
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14:39<mnuhmnuh>so, why's dpkg's response to !es so different from that of !pt?
14:39<rob_debian>Hi all, please, I'd like to know why so many lines through 'dmesg' command are flagged in red color: https://paste.debian.net/1013644/
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14:41<rob_debian>I upgraded the kernel linux to this release, but used debian sid main:4.15.0-1-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.15.4-1 (2018-02-18). If anything goes wrong here, that doesn' matter, for I use this Debian installation for tests purposes too.
14:41<grawity>because they're errors
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14:42<cacatoes>hi rob_debian, graphics drivers aren't flawless, in particular with nouveau/nvidia
14:42<mnuhmnuh>rob_debian: i don't see anything ugly there (besides nvidia :-), and no color in w3m. does it work?
14:42<grawity>some of them possibly nouveau driver bugs (or incompatibilities with the specific gpu model)
14:42<rob_debian>hi grawity, nice to meet you too ! yes, I know they are errors, but which kind of errors, if they are serious or not, that's my doubt here
14:42<rob_debian>I see grawity, thanks !
14:43<annadane>rob_debian, you do realize you can use the kernel from stretch-backports?
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14:44<rob_debian>Hi cacatoes, nice to meet you here ! thanks for information :) so if they aren't flawless, I'm feeling better here, lol
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14:45<rob_debian>hi mnuhmnuh! glad to see you again here ! well, w3m ?
14:46<rob_debian>hi annadane, glad to see you again ! yeah, annadane, I upgraded from backported version (it was 14.4.0, I think)
14:46<mnuhmnuh>w3m is text, not gui, web browser. much simpler for paste.debian.net, et al.
14:47<cacatoes>rob_debian: your other source of errors seem to come from dell-smbios, you can ignore them since it's only here to provide edge-cases features, or try to install some library (seems to be 'libsmbios') and hope it will make the messages disappear
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14:48<grawity>it's unlikely that installing a userspace lib will fix kernel issues
14:48<rob_debian>annadane, but from a condition of stability to a condition of risk, I recognize the imprudence here committed. However, as I said, I did this for testing purposes, because the backports version was perfect, all working just fine as always, and perfect for the 'btrfs' file system.
14:48<cacatoes>potential errors in logs come from missing firmwares or buggy/incomplete drivers. So gravity depends.
14:48<mnuhmnuh>rob_debian: confirm you've installed non-free blob pkgs?
14:48<mnuhmnuh>firmware
14:48<annadane>yeah i'm not saying what you did was wrong, just that i hope you didn't install the newer kernel directly from sid which you didn't
14:49<rob_debian>I think I used it shortly some time ago, mnuhmnuh, but not sure yet (w3m looks a bit familiar for me...)
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14:49<mnuhmnuh>aptitude search firmware | grep ^i
14:49<rob_debian>fine, cacatoes
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14:50<mnuhmnuh>rob_debian: w3m's just a better lynx, imo.
14:50<qirex>hi
14:50<rob_debian>no, mnuhmnuh, if the name of the non-free package is 'blob'
14:50<mnuhmnuh>firmware
14:50<mnuhmnuh>aptitude search firmware | grep ^i
14:51<rob_debian>ok, just one moment, please, mnuhmnuh
14:51*mnuhmnuh is never hurrying again.
14:51<qirex>Is there any way i can observe a framerate of a video in real time or something?
14:52<rob_debian> https://paste.debian.net/1013645/
14:52<mnuhmnuh>take your time, smell the roses, learn something useful.
14:52<rob_debian>I don't know how to use w3m yet, but I'll install it now
14:52<mnuhmnuh>rob_debian: you should be set.
14:53<mnuhmnuh>i mean your link looks good.
14:53<cacatoes>qirex: are there videos with variable framerates?
14:54<rob_debian>fine, mnuhmnuh, thank you very much !
14:54<grawity>qirex: do you mean as it was encoded, or as it's being rendered?
14:54<mnuhmnuh>de nada.
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14:54<rob_debian>lol
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14:54<rob_debian>good portuguese to begin, mnuhmnuh :)
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14:55<qirex>Well im trying to encode but the program im using make some confusing results according to another program which reads the file
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14:56<mnuhmnuh>pt? that's cheech & chong espanol!
14:56<qirex>Sometimes says variable sometimes constant and with different strange results im really confused
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14:56<mnuhmnuh>que pasa?
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14:56<rob_debian>they are similar on this passage you've written, mnuhmnhuh !
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14:57<rob_debian>lol
14:57<mnuhmnuh>:-)
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14:58<cacatoes>qirex: what is your encoder? I'm only aware of ones which produce a constant framerate
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15:00<qirex>Im using Handbrake and Mediainfo to read information of the results
15:00<cacatoes>and mediainfo results are changing?
15:01<cacatoes>bitrate changes, framerate should be constant
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15:05<qirex>Well im changing settings to handbrake too but the results are surprising
15:06<qirex>Like for example i pick framerate and give peak framerate (vfr) opition
15:07<qirex>The result is showed as constant but if i choose 60fps for example its says variable
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15:08<qirex>Handbrake official site says that if i put same as the source and variable option should make no changes
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15:08<qirex>but the result is showed as variable from a source which is suppose to be constant
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15:13<kanliot>debian 9 is bad... wicd is disconnecting me every minute, login manager is funky. copy and paste from firefox works half the time, despite this 'clipboard manager'
15:13<cacatoes>had an eye to handbrake doc. CFR seems to be constant no matter what. While VFR might result in variable framerate if source is made so.
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15:16<cacatoes>kanliot: bad in comparison to what? you can change your desktop environment if the one you installed doesn't suit you.
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15:19<qirex>Im using Debian 9 and its working fine with me but i remember FireFox troubles too and i just installed the latest version from the official site
15:19<qirex>And it was ok...
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15:21<qirex>About the framerate im really soo confused but
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15:21<kanliot>never had a lick of trouble with wifi on the old kernel. now i'm about to tear hair out like this guy: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=227884 is crying
15:21<cacatoes>qirex: if you need to debug, since handbrake is meant to be a frontend, you might check the resulting encoding command and search for infos from there.
15:21<qirex>Do you have an idea if lets say my source is 29.97 and i encode it with framerate change to 60 is that make any sense at all?
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15:26<cacatoes>nope, higher framerate would be a waste. It's always better to reuse the same framerate than source.
15:29<cacatoes>kanliot: hardware issues are hard to diagnose, so if you want to do it you'll need to collect infos carefully and eventually submit a report to the driver devs
15:30<qirex>My only concern so far is that after the encode some of the files dont behave well with video editors but all my test results was playable 100% with the video player im using
15:30<qirex>Thank you so much for the information
15:31<kanliot>cacatoes you mean impossible since it only happens with this router here which i have no access to
15:31<kanliot>but cheers and thx
15:31<qirex>Ill probably just chose something and do the job for all my files cause i have no space here :D
15:32<qirex>Thanks again
15:32<cacatoes>you're welcome, good luck ;)
15:34<qirex>ty bb
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15:37<FrazzyDee>Hi folks! the wiki for LaMp installation instructs me to install php5 ("aptitude install php5 php5-mysql libapache2-mod-php5"). I take it I can follow the instructions but replace php5 with php?
15:37<cacatoes>kanliot: hard to believe a random "router reboot" would be a definite solution to solve that kind of issue, so the problem might not be not having access to it
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15:38<annadane>,v php5
15:38<judd>Package: php5 on amd64 -- wheezy: 5.4.45-0+deb7u2; wheezy-security: 5.4.45-0+deb7u12; jessie: 5.6.30+dfsg-0+deb8u1; jessie-proposed-updates: 5.6.33+dfsg-0+deb8u1; jessie-security: 5.6.33+dfsg-0+deb8u1
15:38<blast007>FrazzyDee: I believe installing the 'php' package will already install apache and the apache modle, so the libapache2-mod-php5 is unnecessary
15:38<blast007>module*
15:39<cacatoes>,v php
15:39<judd>Package: php on amd64 -- stretch: 1:7.0+49; buster: 1:7.2+60; sid: 1:7.2+60
15:40<annadane>yeah so already on 7
15:40<FrazzyDee>I should clarify, the reason I'm asking is because I get an error when following the instructions on the wiki, "E: Package 'php5' has no installation candidate"
15:40<annadane>yes, php5 is not in stretch
15:40<grummund>Hi, the volume control on my keyboard works to adjust 'Master', is it possible to remap that to 'PCM' ?
15:40<FrazzyDee>that's what I figured...so I can do apt-get install php php-mysql and that should suffice?
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15:41<blast007>use the php and php-* packages (which in most cases will install the matching php7.0 or php7.0-* package)
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15:42<FrazzyDee>thank you, blast007 & annadane :)
15:42<blast007>well, I guess it's not for *most* cases, as there's quite a lot of php-* packages that don't have matching php7.0-* packages
15:42<cacatoes>FrazzyDee: try a simulation: apt -s install php, you will see what packages it *would* install
15:43<FrazzyDee>cacatoes, too late, I already installed it
15:44<annadane>the universe will implode in 3... 2... 1...
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15:46<FrazzyDee>perhaps someone should update the wiki :)
15:46<annadane>yeah, i'll do it now
15:46<FrazzyDee>https://wiki.debian.org/LaMp
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15:48<leventel[m]>Hi! I copied files in my local FS with rsync -aWH, then removed the original files, was it a mistake?
15:48<leventel[m]>I mean now I got an error from rsync, if I try to restore the files:
15:48<leventel[m]>rsync: getcwd(): No such file or directory (2)
15:48<annadane>,v php-mysql
15:48<judd>Package: php-mysql on amd64 -- stretch: 1:7.0+49; buster: 1:7.2+60; sid: 1:7.2+60
15:48<leventel[m]>rsync error: errors selecting input/output files, dirs (code 3) at util.c(1056) [Receiver=3.1.1]
15:49<leventel[m]>but I can use `cp` and it seems everything is fine, but why rsync failed?
15:50<cacatoes>leventel[m]: are you trying to copy in a directory which doesn't exist?
15:50<leventel[m]>also `du -sh` reported the whole size of the orig dir
15:51<leventel[m]>cacatoes: no, the destination was exist
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15:53<leventel[m]>I am thinking about -H parameter, preserve hardlinks, could it be a source of the issue?
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15:53<leventel[m]>to tell the truth I don't fully understand hardlinks :(
15:53<cacatoes>with rsync results differ if you put the leading '/', it's not normal your rsync command doesn't even try to copy anything.
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15:54<cacatoes>it complains about "No such file or directory" so it's more likely that kind of issue
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15:55<cacatoes>hardlinks is a counter, your file is physically stored at one place, but inodes make several references to it, and the file is only deleted when counter reaches 0.
15:55<leventel[m]>my command was: `sudo rsync -aWH /var/opm_backup/* /var/opm/`
15:55<cacatoes>it's like a copy which doesn't consume further space.
15:56<leventel[m]>and the backup was: `sudo rsync -aWH /var/opm/* /var/opm_backup/`
15:56<leventel[m]>in the meantime I deleted the whole /var/opm/ and run `mkdir /var/opm`
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15:56<leventel[m]>cacatoes: I'm sorry, I didn't get it
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15:57<cacatoes>leventel[m]: official doc will explain it better than me ;)
15:59<cacatoes>since you ran 'mkdir /var/opm', that should do it. It's a simple mirroring so there should be no problem with it.
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16:00<cacatoes>you may remove the W option, rsync likes to do chunks so you can leave it doing chunks, unless you used the option for specific purpose.
16:00<grummund>Anyone know where the keyboard multimedia buttons are mapped? /etc/acpi/event is empty apart from powerbtn.
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16:01<leventel[m]>cacatoes: I thought that with -W rsync doesn't calculate the diff, because there isn't anything in the dest folder
16:01<cacatoes>grummund: xev -event keyboard?
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16:02<cacatoes>leventel[m]: i'm unsure myself, but i didn't understand this option that way
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16:02<grummund>cacatoes: yeah that (and acpi_listen) show the buuton events, but i can't find where these are mapped to actually operating the mixer
16:03<leventel[m]>so in theory all my data (every inode) remained in place after I deleted /var/opm/
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16:03<cacatoes>leventel[m]: inodes are a table of "references", when you delete a file, the inodes table is updated accordingly.
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16:03<grummund>volumeup and volumedown do actually adjust the Master volume and i'm guessing this is mapped somewhere.
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16:05<cacatoes>grummund: mapped by your desktop environment then, as keyboard shortcuts
16:05<leventel[m]>cacatoes: without -W I think rsync will start to calculate some diff, but it's just a presume
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16:06<cacatoes>leventel[m]: can be right, and it just "overwrites" without thinking, as I got it
16:06<leventel[m]>cacatoes: okay, but if I have a last hardlink to an inode, it shouldn't be deleted
16:07<cacatoes>yes, if there was a hardlink for that file, the counter was just deduced by one, and your file still exists in the other place
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16:08<leventel[m]>so when rsync -H preserved my hardlinks on the FS, it created a new hardlink in the opm_backup directory... or?
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16:09<leventel[m]>I should test it now with some dummy files
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16:09<cacatoes>I haven't checked, but i think that option says "make a copy as if this file was a regular file", so it just uses more space.
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16:10<cacatoes>oh, it's the contrary. Hard links are treated as regular by default. This option keeps the hardlinks.
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16:11<cacatoes>in both case you're safe.
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16:13<leventel[m]>I've just tested it, same error message, but the data remained in the backup
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16:13<leventel[m]>cacatoes: thanks for your help
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16:14<cacatoes>yw ;)
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16:23<leventel[m]>okay, not the same error (I cannot reproduce it with test data), but everything is fine :)
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16:26<grummund>cacatoes: i added a mapping in xfce keyboard application shortcuts, but it made no difference so i think something else is trapping that event .
16:28<jhutchins_wk>leventel[m]: Why the -H?
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16:29<jhutchins_wk>leventel[m]: Nevermind, I see you discussed that.
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17:01<vycanis>hello
17:02<rob_debian>hi vycanis
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17:04<siete>I did a fresh install of stretch on an old laptop and everything works great except I can't get hdmi to work
17:04<siete>can anyone help?
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17:08<siete>Is there any info I can provide that would help someone help me?
17:09<Brigo>siete, graphic card?
17:11<Brigo>siete, and the outpu of xrandr too would be grate
17:11<Brigo>great*
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17:12<siete>Brigo, https://pastebin.com/bME0gPb8
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17:13<Brigo>siete, is this a system with dual graphic card?
17:13<siete>Also Brigo, here is a bunch of other info about my system https://pastebin.com/BKvq3471
17:14<siete>I think its a dual graphics card
17:14<Brigo>siete, just the first line: Debian GNU/Linux testing (buster) x86_64
17:14<jhutchins_wk>siete: lspci will show the hardware.
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17:14<Brigo>siete, you are using testing, you should ask in #debian-next channel, this channel is only for stable support.
17:15<siete>ok
17:15<Brigo>siete, how do you install it?
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17:15<siete>nonfree iso
17:15<siete>on a flash drive
17:15<siete>Do you think that it will work with Stable?
17:15<Brigo>siete, testing netinstall?
17:15<Brigo>siete, actually i don't.
17:16<siete>no live usb
17:16<Brigo>siete, please remember the xrandr output, please. It will tell us if you have any hdmi detected.
17:16<Brigo>siete, live usb with buster or stretch?
17:16<siete>stretch testing
17:17<Brigo>siete, and then upgrading to buster?
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17:18<siete>wait no, I was wrong, its buster testing not stretch testing
17:18<siete>sorry
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17:18<siete>its the current iso from here https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current-live/amd64/iso-hybrid/
17:19<Brigo>siete, what is buster testing?
17:19<siete>I installed the nonfree current-live iso
17:19<Brigo>debian live, it is a really good luck the system ir working.
17:19<Brigo>debian-live is not for installing debian.
17:20<siete>oh
17:20<siete>that's how ive done it before
17:20<Brigo>next time use the installer and stable, not testing.
17:20<siete>ok
17:20<siete>should I re-install?
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17:21<Brigo>siete, no hurries, you will have plenty of opportunities :)
17:21<siete>xrandr says lvds connected and vga disconnected
17:21<siete>it doesnt say anything about hdmi
17:21<Brigo>siete, i'm still missing that xrandr output.
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17:22<Brigo>siete, then we have a problem, i don't know how to deal with dual graphic card system.
17:22<Brigo>i think you should use bumblebee, but not really sure.
17:22<Brigo>just guessing here.
17:22<siete>but what's weird is when I plug in the hdmi cable the xfce display settings window pops up
17:23<siete>but the drop down menu doesn't have an option for the other screen
17:23<Brigo>siete, i don't really know how that works or xfce. I have never used them. Sorry.
17:25<siete>alright, thanks for trying
17:26<Brigo>siete, you can make some googling about intel+nvidia problems
17:27<siete>ive tried
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17:29<Sandy>How can I find rsyslog on Debian?
17:29<Sandy>I don't see it in /var/log
17:29<siete>there was something about editing a xorg.conf file but i dont think I have a xorg.conf file
17:29<annadane>you don't always have one by default
17:29<Brigo>siete, something like this: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/321151/do-not-manage-to-activate-hdmi-on-a-laptop-that-has-optimus-bumblebee
17:30<Brigo>siete, if you don't have one, you can create one.
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17:38<siete>you think I need bumblebee?
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17:38<siete>because I have to graphics cards?
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17:42<Brigo>siete, i think bumblebee is for saving energy.
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17:49<ben>hi
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17:50<ben>do any of you know how to play roblox on this kano thing
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17:51<petn-randall>ben: What?
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17:51<ben>do any of you know how to play roblox on this thing
17:52<petn-randall>ben: Define "this thing".
17:52<ben>kano computer
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17:53<ben>hello
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17:53<petn-randall>ben: Maybe you want to ask in their channel, this one is about Debian support.
17:53<ben>whats debian
17:53<coruja>lol
17:54<ben>bro
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17:54<ben>btw
17:54<petn-randall>!debian
17:54<dpkg>hmm... debian is http://www.debian.org. See http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/project-history/index.en.html#contents
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17:55<ben>copyed it
17:55<coruja>ben, i guess with 'this kano thing' you mean kanotix?
17:56<ben>whats your name petnr-randall
17:56<petn-randall>I'm guessing https://kano.me/
17:56<ben>its the kano diy computer
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17:56<ben>yes
17:56<petn-randall>ben: Well, it's petn-randall …
17:57<ben>whats your real name
17:57<coruja>ah, didn't know that, thx
17:57<ben>bro im only 10
17:57<petn-randall>!chat
17:57<dpkg>This is not a chat channel, this is a Debian user support channel. Unless you have a Debian support question, please chat elsewhere, like #debian-offtopic, or #moocows on irc.oftc.net or ##chat on irc.freenode.net.
17:58<ben>whats debian
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17:58<ben>hello
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18:03<coruja>so kano computers run kano os, which is a debian derivative - that's why he arrived here (and left)
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21:48<daffy__>anyone willing to help me with some issues?
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21:48<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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21:49<daffy__>my system dont boot into gui anymore.. it goes to bash instead of gnome. Im using debian buster
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21:55<awal1>daffy__, #debian-next for buster :P
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21:56<daffy__>awal1: lol
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22:29<plant-man>Oh my gosh, is it happening, birthing a 9.4?
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22:31*annadane hums and checks mirror for sid updates
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22:35<plant-man>Wow, I'm surprised by the huge level of excitement here. This chat room is hoppin yall!
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22:46<dvs>woot!
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23:54<mayakovsky>hey debian folks, installing stretch on a laptop, and would like to ask, is there a qualitative difference between gnome and kde on debian or are both equally working good?
23:57<mayakovsky>jebte se turci
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23:58<somiaj>they should both be working good, as they both go throught the same bugg checking and fixing during the release. Now you might be able to idenfity certain thigns one does better than the other, and you may find you have to configure things a little bit more than you would with a distro that only focuses on one or the other
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